october 2024 according to the release notes. testing 24.10 and they've already fully removed the kubernetes. I was preparing to switch my storage (ubuntu w/ zfs) over to trurenas and ran into these issues. gotta wait til october (or at least august depending on their progress) before docker support is implemented well enough.
Every experience I've had with the TrueCharts team has been highly unprofessional. I'm not surprised they threw a fit and rage-quitted their own project.
Completely agreed. I asked about how to point an app to an HTTPS certificate as certain functions wouldn't wouldn't work without it. Their reply was that I needed to establish a local domain with my own DNS server and reverse proxy instead of being able to just point to an external file path or upload the cert into the container's persistent storage. It was such a non-answer that I was forced to abandon a solution that had worked for me for years and come up with something new. This is all not to even mention when TrueCharts broke updates on every single one of their apps and their reply was basically "not our fault, figure it out yourself".
Just to be clear: Our project is building helm-charts, SCALE-Apps where mostly just a side gig generated from those Helm Charts. We're still very much active on building helm charts as always ^^
@@the117spartan It was a non-answer indeed, but the full answer is basically a "won't-fix"... We've close to 900 Helm-Charts and we use Ingress and cert-manager for certificate handling as it provides standardization. Implementing your requested feature, would involve manually implementing this on all the hundreds of charts, one-by-one. Thats not feasible. However: Technically on normal Helm, instead of SCALE Apps, it could be very-well achieved by anyone! Its mostly the UI that would block you from doing thing :)
@@TrueCharts Not sure who's gonna use TrueCharts moving forward. I used it for the past 6 months, and during TrueNAS updates, your Discord staff were just passive aggressive and rude at every point and turn. I gave it an honest shot even despite every reddit post warning against it as it *'breaks every update'* - I had hoped that wouldn't be the case anymore, but with painful and ridiculous migration guides for a simple "app" and total annoyance at any question asked in your Discord, I could not be happier to hear TrueNAS is implementing native Docker apps. TrueCharts has been a miserable experience, and I hope you guys figure something out on your end. User experience-wise on Discord as well. Good luck, and goodbye.
yea i cant describe their behavior anything else then a childish tantrum. I mean they deleted hundrets of kubernetes apps without warning and against what they said because people did not agree with them. This is absolutely crazy and puts the whole site on a blocklist for me. This is rediculess and nothing i would ever have done. Quite the opposite i would have most likely just had it like it was , not updated anymore and given people the oppertunity to mirror it and continue work them self. .. but just deleting it because people where critical of their decition and behavior .. thats right out crazy... i mean i expect more from kindergarden children .... CRAZZZYYYY
A few weeks ago I had a complete failure of my truecharts, after I figured out what was going on and where scale was headed, I set up a docker jail and migrated all my apps to docker. It took me a lot of troubleshooting hours to get to that point, but it was worth it up to this point. Hopefully migrating back to native docker containers isn’t too painful when that comes down.
Thanks for distilling the (honestly ridiculous) drama from TrueCharts into such a short and informative video. I do think TrueNAS as a project and its community of users will be better served in the long term by no longer having any ties to such a toxic, poorly managed project, even if the short term learning curve during the transition will be steep.
From my perspective, over the past few months, their images were trash anyway. You'd update something, and the next day, it would want to update with the same exact version and checksum, again. Simple things like database passwords were changed from default or unset, breaking the other chart that depended on it and refusing to start the container.
@@YakeFake That statement would come as a shock to all the people with active TrueCharts deployments in their SCALE systems who got caught flat footed by this, whom I deeply sympathize with. They are an embarrassingly toxic project that shouldn't have been associated even tangentially with a prominent commercial project. The entire community is going to be better off without them in the long run, from everything I've observed. I've already gotten exactly the result I wanted.
I'll say this about TrueCharts - There were some good apples in a barrel of rotton apples. I'm still a beginner when it comes to this, and while most of my interactions with the people on the server were unpleasant, there were actually a handful of people who were really nice and patient with beginners like me. And to give credit where credit is due (speaking purely as a beginner), setting up the TrueCharts version of apps to work was much more straightforward language-wise. Can't speak for the under the hood stuff going on about storage, but at least I can say that's why I gravitated towards TC first.
TrueCharts' Discord staff has also always been passive aggressive, quick to ban and generally not at all nice. Honestly excited to switch away from them.
Oh yes I had that. I pointed out an error in documentation and got told it wasn’t a priority after they referred me to documentation. I got an apology on DM immediately after kicked off. I get everyone has a bad day. If I’m honest thought I reported a fault with zfs pool to truenas and case got closed because that’s not how they configure their zfs. Except it was because it was a fault inherited from old freenas. Unimpressed with the pimadonnas
The main guy behind TrueCharts is really smart but should probably take some time off and do introspective reflection and maybe try therapy. He seems so unhappy, frustrated and easily agitated. That's not a good mental state to be in.
The issue was lack of app support and updates with native truenas scale. Never had much of an issue with trucharts but will most likely abandon both truenas scale and truecharts. HexOS will be interesting to follow
I tried TrueCharts and it didn't live up to my expectations. So I used the virtualization in TrueNAS to spin up a Linux server to which I run Docker. Interested how the interface will be in TrueNAS for Docker. Right now I just manage my through VS Code/SSH/Docker Plugin. Pretty happy with it as is.
... not surprised... the support guys on the Discord channel was "touchie" to put it one way... I am however impacted by this as I have a couple of things using their tech... one of which was the mapping of a external ip onto a specific app hosted. instead of everything just sitting on different ports on the NAS ip. cant say i feel bad... but it's like damm... the work to unravel the TC services now, hopefully there are TrueNAS community replacement versions. one of the big one's... moving from TC Plex to TrueNAS Plex, and not having to redo the entire Plex profiles and watched lists etc.
Truecharts isn't dead. They will still support SCALE trough a VM with Kubernetes (migration guides comming by the end of the summer). Electric Eel will remove all Kubernetes support, which makes it impossible for Truecharts to run directly on SCALE.
@@heliobyte sorry but i'm pass "had enough" of breaking changes and then having to rebuild it over and over... at this stage i will figure something else out... having read some of the reddit posts... ye i can relate to other users. i moved of CORE to SCALE to get onto K8S, my biggest issue is the ingress controller loss... which is primarily important for one load... might move that myself to a VM.
I migrated away from truecharts and moved everything over to jails for the time being with jailmaker. I have one docker jail running all my apps and I hope to never deal with pvc storage ever again.
I am using truecharts, but I also have a few custom helm charts for private applications. Just dropping k8s support in truenas is imo a big mistake. Adding Docker as an option is all well and good. but don't just break existing stuff which took a lot of setup
Updates with truecharts were always a disaster. Then I just notice my apps from it stopped updated. Spent last weekend redoing them all on a dedicated docker host.
so true. I lost my valheim world because back then heavy script did not exist. So many hours lost. But I am back in Valheim but on a Linux VM on my proxmox server. Also the communication and help from truecharts was also very bad.
Anyone else has issues with using GPU for transcoding w/ Plex after updating to 24.04.2? I had to disable GPU support in Kubernetes Settings and re-enable for it to show up in edit plex application. This also includes fresh installation of truenas and editing plex settings.
Thanks as always Lawrence. I knew about true charts withdrawal. I thought true charts were going to deliver their own jail / virtual though? And continue delivering outside of truenes kubernetes? Would love a video on pFsense and UDM pro now UniFi have allowed NAT to be disabled? Any chance of a video like this please. 🙏
@NickyNiclas not the person you asked, but the answer is a LOT. Proper IPv6 support is probably the most obvious one. Ubiquity is like the Apple of networking. It looks pretty, costs way too much, and is idiot proof as long as you're just an "average" user. But anything outside of that is not supported. Pfsens is the exact opposite, not as pretty and easy to use, but if you can dream it, you can configure it. No hand holding or arbitrary limitations.
@@nezu_cc I know, and understand most of it. Why use a UDM at all in that case? Why not just a self hosted UniFi controller and their switches behind a pfsense box?
Hi Tom, since you did the uncast podcast, and now that truenas is moving to docker and unraid to zfs, what is your take on truenas scale vs Unraid? Thanks
TrueNAS has always used ZFS and since Unraid is new to ZFS and does not have any other compelling features making me want to use it over TrueNAS, not likely I will review it any time soon.
truecharts in forums was very rude most the time. He had a know it all way of talking and was always very unhelpful. Just my opinion and from interaction i've had with him.
At 7:40 you mention backups and setting up "host pass" properly. The CC says 'host pass' is what you are saying there. I'm not sure I heard that right. There isn't anything in this video's notes about it. And when I search for "host pass" in your channel video list I don't see any such title in the results. Were you saying "host paths"? And which of your videos were you referring to in that part of the video?
Same here but we already seen the writing on the wall for some time now. I have plans to move to scale but can't do that right now because my ZFS array uses encryption which is incompatible with scale. Besides, I like to do fresh installs.
Truenas has a update problem. I was checking for updates and ended up two versions behind because you have to swap trains now for major updates. An auto latest train would. E nice.
You have the problem. Having a separate train is far preferable. It means breaking changes can be noted and not run into for people who blindly update. It also allows them to get critical patches out for people still on the older train, without forcing them to update.
@thegorn I ended up on an unsupported version. Not a single other software package I use has similar issues where you can check for updates and not see the latest without picking the right drop down item.
Fun fact for those who don't know. In the Core webui you can revert to the FreeNAS logo. Hit the settings cog in the top right, select "Preferences", check "Retro Logo", hit "Update Preferences".
Tip for all, you should probably learn helm. It’s not hard. Stand up a simple k3s cluster (rancher can make it easy). And then use argocd for deploying and managing helm charts
Thanks for all the informative content. A bit off topic but please help, how can I add/install a GPU in my TrueNAS Scale installation (non-virtualized), how can I configure, test, and ensure apps can fully use it e.g. Photo Prism, Nextcloud, etc.
TrueNAS Scale had an included driver, so you didn't need to do anything extra. It worked as plug and play on mine. I stopped using TrueNAS for apps, though. I run Docker on Proxmox now, and so I don't know what the current state of that might be.
Yea, host path is THE WAY. For now I run a TrueNas VM and Ubuntu VM on proxmox running Portainer CE which uses SMB or NFS volumes depending on my fancy. Would be nice to kill the ubuntu VM and just run it all on TrueNAS.
Tom. Think about it this way. iX leveraged TrueCharts as a "selling point" of their own software. Which is fine. However...people are assholes. Especially people who are having problems. ESPECIALLY people who have paid for a product and are having problems. Those jerks were directing that frustration towards the maintainers of a volunteer project. (This is the part where we discuss the current situation surrounding Open Sourced projects run by volunteers, and the insanity/entitlement brought by their users. Especially their business users who "don't care. I have to run a business here. Why isn't this fixed right now?") So, if the relationship sounds adversarial...it probably is. iX makes the money without having to provide any support. Also...se above statement about people being assholes...
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS My god. I'm unsubscribing... WHY do you think the Truecharts catalog was deleted? BECAUSE IX SYSTEMS NUKED ALL KUBERNETES SUPPORT, completely ignoring the wishes of half of their community (according to the pole they themselves made on Reddit). It will be completely removed in Electric Eel and replaced with docker + docker compose. Truechart offers HELM apps, which REQUIRE Kubernetes. And by the way - the project isn't dead. Truecharts will still support SCALE (as well as other systems), trough its new "cluster tool" and a VM running TALOS OS. At least have the decency to pin a comment here saying you did exactly 30 seconds of research before making this video.
We want to highlight that our project isn't dead or abandoned. We are, and have always been, a project building Helm-Charts for Kubernetes. SCALE-Apps where just a "downstream" thing, build from said Helm-Charts. We're continuing to build great helm-charts and are hard at work at streamlining migration of our current SCALE users to a normal kubernetes cluster instead! :)
TrueCyanogen . lets hope the IX forums will be cleaned up of the damn truesharts trash and constant pushing by the mods to use that option *DAB*. ive seen too many posts where someone sais SPECIFICALLY they do NOT want the trucharts version, then that damn threat gets hijacked by ...you guessed it, trucharts.
We're all waiting for the native docker apps support :)
october 2024 according to the release notes. testing 24.10 and they've already fully removed the kubernetes. I was preparing to switch my storage (ubuntu w/ zfs) over to trurenas and ran into these issues. gotta wait til october (or at least august depending on their progress) before docker support is implemented well enough.
Yeah that’s definitely going to fix everything. All the other issues regarding terrible app integration will be solved in an instant. Can’t wait.
If they remove K8s and add Docker I'm considering switching back to TrueNAS :D
amen to fix this fiasco
It's coming
That docker support is gonna be big.
Every experience I've had with the TrueCharts team has been highly unprofessional. I'm not surprised they threw a fit and rage-quitted their own project.
Completely agreed. I asked about how to point an app to an HTTPS certificate as certain functions wouldn't wouldn't work without it. Their reply was that I needed to establish a local domain with my own DNS server and reverse proxy instead of being able to just point to an external file path or upload the cert into the container's persistent storage. It was such a non-answer that I was forced to abandon a solution that had worked for me for years and come up with something new.
This is all not to even mention when TrueCharts broke updates on every single one of their apps and their reply was basically "not our fault, figure it out yourself".
Just to be clear:
Our project is building helm-charts, SCALE-Apps where mostly just a side gig generated from those Helm Charts.
We're still very much active on building helm charts as always ^^
@@the117spartan It was a non-answer indeed, but the full answer is basically a "won't-fix"... We've close to 900 Helm-Charts and we use Ingress and cert-manager for certificate handling as it provides standardization.
Implementing your requested feature, would involve manually implementing this on all the hundreds of charts, one-by-one. Thats not feasible.
However: Technically on normal Helm, instead of SCALE Apps, it could be very-well achieved by anyone!
Its mostly the UI that would block you from doing thing :)
@@TrueCharts Not sure who's gonna use TrueCharts moving forward. I used it for the past 6 months, and during TrueNAS updates, your Discord staff were just passive aggressive and rude at every point and turn. I gave it an honest shot even despite every reddit post warning against it as it *'breaks every update'* - I had hoped that wouldn't be the case anymore, but with painful and ridiculous migration guides for a simple "app" and total annoyance at any question asked in your Discord, I could not be happier to hear TrueNAS is implementing native Docker apps. TrueCharts has been a miserable experience, and I hope you guys figure something out on your end. User experience-wise on Discord as well.
Good luck, and goodbye.
yea i cant describe their behavior anything else then a childish tantrum. I mean they deleted hundrets of kubernetes apps without warning and against what they said because people did not agree with them. This is absolutely crazy and puts the whole site on a blocklist for me. This is rediculess and nothing i would ever have done. Quite the opposite i would have most likely just had it like it was , not updated anymore and given people the oppertunity to mirror it and continue work them self. .. but just deleting it because people where critical of their decition and behavior .. thats right out crazy... i mean i expect more from kindergarden children .... CRAZZZYYYY
A few weeks ago I had a complete failure of my truecharts, after I figured out what was going on and where scale was headed, I set up a docker jail and migrated all my apps to docker. It took me a lot of troubleshooting hours to get to that point, but it was worth it up to this point. Hopefully migrating back to native docker containers isn’t too painful when that comes down.
Whelp, you sold me. Just updated from 23.10.2 to latest. I'm definitely one of those longer holdouts.
Thanks for distilling the (honestly ridiculous) drama from TrueCharts into such a short and informative video. I do think TrueNAS as a project and its community of users will be better served in the long term by no longer having any ties to such a toxic, poorly managed project, even if the short term learning curve during the transition will be steep.
From my perspective, over the past few months, their images were trash anyway. You'd update something, and the next day, it would want to update with the same exact version and checksum, again. Simple things like database passwords were changed from default or unset, breaking the other chart that depended on it and refusing to start the container.
@@sinisterpisces they haven’t had ties with them for like a year or two buddy. Whatever you think is going to change, won’t.
@@YakeFake That statement would come as a shock to all the people with active TrueCharts deployments in their SCALE systems who got caught flat footed by this, whom I deeply sympathize with.
They are an embarrassingly toxic project that shouldn't have been associated even tangentially with a prominent commercial project. The entire community is going to be better off without them in the long run, from everything I've observed.
I've already gotten exactly the result I wanted.
Scale should have went with docker in the very beginning. Glad to see this change finally.
Happy TrueNAS will go the Docker route tbfh.
I'll say this about TrueCharts - There were some good apples in a barrel of rotton apples. I'm still a beginner when it comes to this, and while most of my interactions with the people on the server were unpleasant, there were actually a handful of people who were really nice and patient with beginners like me. And to give credit where credit is due (speaking purely as a beginner), setting up the TrueCharts version of apps to work was much more straightforward language-wise. Can't speak for the under the hood stuff going on about storage, but at least I can say that's why I gravitated towards TC first.
TrueCharts' Discord staff has also always been passive aggressive, quick to ban and generally not at all nice. Honestly excited to switch away from them.
Oh yes I had that. I pointed out an error in documentation and got told it wasn’t a priority after they referred me to documentation. I got an apology on DM immediately after kicked off. I get everyone has a bad day. If I’m honest thought I reported a fault with zfs pool to truenas and case got closed because that’s not how they configure their zfs. Except it was because it was a fault inherited from old freenas. Unimpressed with the pimadonnas
The main guy behind TrueCharts is really smart but should probably take some time off and do introspective reflection and maybe try therapy. He seems so unhappy, frustrated and easily agitated. That's not a good mental state to be in.
@@NickyNiclasyup. DM apologist said that but when people are making excuses and they still in the driving chair it’s a cult.
I got perma-banned from their GitHub after accidentally doubling someone's work and getting accused of attempted theft of credit.
I had the same experience, but they were not passive aggressive, but actually downright nasty
The issue was lack of app support and updates with native truenas scale. Never had much of an issue with trucharts but will most likely abandon both truenas scale and truecharts. HexOS will be interesting to follow
technically speaking you will still be on truenas scale since HexOS is mostly building a GUI on top of that
@@marcogenovesi8570 I thought he was forking it. Either way it’ll be interesting to see what comes.
I tried TrueCharts and it didn't live up to my expectations. So I used the virtualization in TrueNAS to spin up a Linux server to which I run Docker. Interested how the interface will be in TrueNAS for Docker. Right now I just manage my through VS Code/SSH/Docker Plugin. Pretty happy with it as is.
... not surprised...
the support guys on the Discord channel was "touchie" to put it one way...
I am however impacted by this as I have a couple of things using their tech...
one of which was the mapping of a external ip onto a specific app hosted. instead of everything just sitting on different ports on the NAS ip.
cant say i feel bad... but it's like damm... the work to unravel the TC services now, hopefully there are TrueNAS community replacement versions.
one of the big one's... moving from TC Plex to TrueNAS Plex, and not having to redo the entire Plex profiles and watched lists etc.
Truecharts isn't dead. They will still support SCALE trough a VM with Kubernetes (migration guides comming by the end of the summer). Electric Eel will remove all Kubernetes support, which makes it impossible for Truecharts to run directly on SCALE.
@@heliobyte sorry but i'm pass "had enough" of breaking changes and then having to rebuild it over and over... at this stage i will figure something else out... having read some of the reddit posts... ye i can relate to other users.
i moved of CORE to SCALE to get onto K8S,
my biggest issue is the ingress controller loss... which is primarily important for one load... might move that myself to a VM.
most regular users coudnt resist using truecharts , heck u cant even use a vpn client without truecharts , so yea its a mess
I migrated away from truecharts and moved everything over to jails for the time being with jailmaker. I have one docker jail running all my apps and I hope to never deal with pvc storage ever again.
Truecharts went where i expected truecharts to go.
I am using truecharts, but I also have a few custom helm charts for private applications. Just dropping k8s support in truenas is imo a big mistake. Adding Docker as an option is all well and good. but don't just break existing stuff which took a lot of setup
Updates with truecharts were always a disaster. Then I just notice my apps from it stopped updated. Spent last weekend redoing them all on a dedicated docker host.
so true. I lost my valheim world because back then heavy script did not exist. So many hours lost. But I am back in Valheim but on a Linux VM on my proxmox server. Also the communication and help from truecharts was also very bad.
I appreciate this info
Sooo, what do I do in the meantime if I want to set up a new truenas scale server with traefic, plex and nextcloud apps running?
Try out the beta of the Jailmaker Docker setup or use a VM on the TrueNAS system to host your apps.
Is there a solution to seting up an MQTT broker for use with HA in TrusNAS Scale that is as easy to do as what TrueCharts offered?
Not something I have tested.
Thanks for a good I advice to save apps' data in host paths :) Which I followed
Anyone else has issues with using GPU for transcoding w/ Plex after updating to 24.04.2? I had to disable GPU support in Kubernetes Settings and re-enable for it to show up in edit plex application. This also includes fresh installation of truenas and editing plex settings.
Thanks as always Lawrence. I knew about true charts withdrawal.
I thought true charts were going to deliver their own jail / virtual though? And continue delivering outside of truenes kubernetes?
Would love a video on pFsense and UDM pro now UniFi have allowed NAT to be disabled?
Any chance of a video like this please. 🙏
If you are getting a UDM, why disable NAT?
To put pFsense in front and still keep network, protect etc working without double Nat
Or basically gain control of your edge security.
@@gswhite any particular reason you want pfsense in front of the UDM? What is the UDM missing?
@NickyNiclas not the person you asked, but the answer is a LOT. Proper IPv6 support is probably the most obvious one. Ubiquity is like the Apple of networking. It looks pretty, costs way too much, and is idiot proof as long as you're just an "average" user. But anything outside of that is not supported. Pfsens is the exact opposite, not as pretty and easy to use, but if you can dream it, you can configure it. No hand holding or arbitrary limitations.
@@nezu_cc I know, and understand most of it. Why use a UDM at all in that case? Why not just a self hosted UniFi controller and their switches behind a pfsense box?
Very much looking forward to docker support; potential is huge
Hi Tom, since you did the uncast podcast, and now that truenas is moving to docker and unraid to zfs, what is your take on truenas scale vs Unraid? Thanks
TrueNAS has always used ZFS and since Unraid is new to ZFS and does not have any other compelling features making me want to use it over TrueNAS, not likely I will review it any time soon.
truecharts in forums was very rude most the time. He had a know it all way of talking and was always very unhelpful. Just my opinion and from interaction i've had with him.
At 7:40 you mention backups and setting up "host pass" properly. The CC says 'host pass' is what you are saying there. I'm not sure I heard that right. There isn't anything in this video's notes about it. And when I search for "host pass" in your channel video list I don't see any such title in the results. Were you saying "host paths"? And which of your videos were you referring to in that part of the video?
It's just youtube's CC AI misunderstanding. He mention "host path".
it's "host path", not pass.
I’m disappointed with their basically abandoning Core.
The issue is the lack of development on the FreeBSD side from which Core get it's downstream updates.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMSyeah if you look at freebsd release notes hardware list is like looking at wayback machine
Same here but we already seen the writing on the wall for some time now. I have plans to move to scale but can't do that right now because my ZFS array uses encryption which is incompatible with scale. Besides, I like to do fresh installs.
@@Darkk6969 afaik, Scale 24 can do ZFS encryption
I'm fine, they have a seamless migration path and it's feature-parity as much as Core had
Thanks for your great videos
How'd you get that view of the server with drive locations at the very beginning?
Nevermind, I guess Enterprise only. It'd be cool if you could set that up manually without the enterprise ed
@@mzw685 Yeah, only comes with TrueNAS hardware.
Not enterprise version, just IXSystems hardware.
Truenas has a update problem.
I was checking for updates and ended up two versions behind because you have to swap trains now for major updates. An auto latest train would. E nice.
I noticed the same thing going from 23 to 24. When the ssh bug happened, I finally figured out that I was on the wrong version
You have the problem. Having a separate train is far preferable. It means breaking changes can be noted and not run into for people who blindly update. It also allows them to get critical patches out for people still on the older train, without forcing them to update.
@thegorn I ended up on an unsupported version. Not a single other software package I use has similar issues where you can check for updates and not see the latest without picking the right drop down item.
So that means it's not okay to still use FreeNAS? /sarcasm
Fun fact for those who don't know. In the Core webui you can revert to the FreeNAS logo. Hit the settings cog in the top right, select "Preferences", check "Retro Logo", hit "Update Preferences".
Tip for all, you should probably learn helm. It’s not hard. Stand up a simple k3s cluster (rancher can make it easy). And then use argocd for deploying and managing helm charts
Overkill when most people just want a movie pirating NAS box lol
@@thegorn it's for linux isos i swear
I run like 5 containers on my NAS lol
that's simply overkill
I hoped they would make k3s scale across multiple trunas scale, but well then no scaling for apps
Is the render glitch intentional @ 1:56? lol
Yes, but it only seems to exist on the TH-cam version, not the original.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Fits right in :)
Thanks for all the informative content.
A bit off topic but please help, how can I add/install a GPU in my TrueNAS Scale installation (non-virtualized), how can I configure, test, and ensure apps can fully use it e.g. Photo Prism, Nextcloud, etc.
TrueNAS Scale had an included driver, so you didn't need to do anything extra. It worked as plug and play on mine. I stopped using TrueNAS for apps, though. I run Docker on Proxmox now, and so I don't know what the current state of that might be.
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Can anyone explain to me (Newoby) how i can install third party "apps" like esphome on truenas scale.
Custom bouton
Yea, host path is THE WAY. For now I run a TrueNas VM and Ubuntu VM on proxmox running Portainer CE which uses SMB or NFS volumes depending on my fancy. Would be nice to kill the ubuntu VM and just run it all on TrueNAS.
TrueCharts isn’t dead, of course. It isn’t native in the SCALE App Store anymore, but it continues as a kubernetes deployment platform.
Tom. Think about it this way.
iX leveraged TrueCharts as a "selling point" of their own software. Which is fine.
However...people are assholes. Especially people who are having problems.
ESPECIALLY people who have paid for a product and are having problems.
Those jerks were directing that frustration towards the maintainers of a volunteer project.
(This is the part where we discuss the current situation surrounding Open Sourced projects run by volunteers, and the insanity/entitlement brought by their users. Especially their business users who "don't care. I have to run a business here. Why isn't this fixed right now?")
So, if the relationship sounds adversarial...it probably is.
iX makes the money without having to provide any support.
Also...se above statement about people being assholes...
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS My god. I'm unsubscribing... WHY do you think the Truecharts catalog was deleted? BECAUSE IX SYSTEMS NUKED ALL KUBERNETES SUPPORT, completely ignoring the wishes of half of their community (according to the pole they themselves made on Reddit). It will be completely removed in Electric Eel and replaced with docker + docker compose. Truechart offers HELM apps, which REQUIRE Kubernetes. And by the way - the project isn't dead. Truecharts will still support SCALE (as well as other systems), trough its new "cluster tool" and a VM running TALOS OS. At least have the decency to pin a comment here saying you did exactly 30 seconds of research before making this video.
We want to highlight that our project isn't dead or abandoned.
We are, and have always been, a project building Helm-Charts for Kubernetes.
SCALE-Apps where just a "downstream" thing, build from said Helm-Charts.
We're continuing to build great helm-charts and are hard at work at streamlining migration of our current SCALE users to a normal kubernetes cluster instead! :)
Thanks for that. I am looking forward to migrating as i have all my apps working nicely these days thanks to the efforts of truecharts devlopers.
Another reason not to upgrade to Scale. So much downtime for updates. My core is perfect
Good thing I transitioned away from Truenas. Had only issues, especially with Truecharts and containers in general.
TrueCyanogen . lets hope the IX forums will be cleaned up of the damn truesharts trash and constant pushing by the mods to use that option *DAB*. ive seen too many posts where someone sais SPECIFICALLY they do NOT want the trucharts version, then that damn threat gets hijacked by ...you guessed it, trucharts.