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- Teachers who are quitting their jobs are rejecting the idea that there is a teacher shortage, saying that burnout and low pay are the reason they are leaving. NBC News' Guad Venegas has more.
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This is 100% correct. There isn't a shortage of teachers willing to work. There is a shortage of schools willing to work with teachers. There is a shortage of schools willing to hold students accountable for violent, anti-social behavior rather than holding the teachers accountable. There is a shortage of schools willing to hold students accountable for their poor grades and academic performance rather than holding the teachers accountable. There is a shortage of schools willing to trust teachers to teach. And there is a shortage of school administrators without Ed.D degrees, which is quite frankly the most useless degree, which only trains school administrators to string together lovely sentences of buzzwords that accomplish nothing but sounds progressive, and to hold teachers accountable for everything while holding students accountable for nothing.
And Biden had a build back better plan for teachers. It got shot down. Tell your skank Republicans to come back with a planing Put your money where it belongs Make America great again is a JOKE. Trump doesn't talk about issues. He frightening when I think he will represent the USA barf .Trump is going to lose again
We’ll said Dillard!
Amen!!!
The public education system is suppose to prepare students for the future. However, the educational system in the United States of North America is trapped in the DOGMA of gender ideology.
I think these administrators should be cut out of the equation and the positions made voluntary. That would solve almost all of the issues.
My brother is marine vet, speaks 4 languages fluently, a master's degree, over 9 years of teaching experience to special kids, yet still makes less than $50K/year. No respect for educators educating future leaders. Shameful.
The future leaders are homeschooled or in swanky private schools. Public schools are pumping out the future welfare recipients. That’s what our nearly dead politicians want.
@sarahg3863Shame that he’d have to leave his home and move to another state to only make 50K. He’ll still be living check to check.
Crazy. My brother and his wife teach in Inglewood, CA. With bachelor's degrees, they make close to 100k each. They have both been there less than five years.
Move to WA 240K for married couples. @ the top of the payscale.
@user-pv5wc8km7n Yeah, that’s 180 day with the students + 10 without = 190 days. But also, teachers don’t get paid for overtime and the average teacher is working at least 14 hours of overtime each week; grading, planning, calling parents, researching, reading and responding to emails. All uncompensated time.
I work at Walmart and one of my coworker is a teacher. He work 7am to 3pm as a teacher then at Walmart 6pm to 10pm. Sometimes I see him in the break room grading homework, it sad that he have to work so hard and get paid so little.
Does he know how to budget?
@@teenahweenah2608😂😂 really my boy. Teachers salary is not enough for today's rents.
@@felipenunez2058 That's interesting to know. However, I personally managed to payoff $100,000 (hundred thousand)dollars of debt in three years earning just above minimum wage. Is it possible some teachers do not know how to BUDGET their money?
I made $102K plus bonus last year. You can teach yourself many skills and get a high paying job without a degree
@@teenahweenah2608 fyi he is going through a divorce and have three young kids.
DO NOT become a teacher in the US! It is a stressful, unappreciated, and even dangerous profession! If your passion is to teach, learn a new language and go teach overseas (Asia, Europe, or even Latin America. You won't get paid much more but at least you'll feel more respected, valued, and supported.
What do they teach in schools that benefits humanity going forward? Transgender ideology is the only thing making headlines.
I can vouch for this. My friends did it to move to Japan and also as a means to acquire dual citizenship to permanently leave the US for Asia.
Teachers in other countrys have great benefits and make good money. The kids are also more respectful. The kids here are more animalistic. My sister was a teacher she only lasted a year. Now making six figures managing a medical warehouse.
Actually, you will be paid more. I lived in Asia for 15 years and Latin America for 2. Living costs are much lower in most Latin American and Asian countries, so that poverty wage paid in the US goes 5x further. Dollar for dollar the same, but the impact of that dollar goes much further.
@@testaccount1055unless something has changed significantly since I got engaged to a Japanese national, your friends might want to check again. Japan does not allow dual nationality. Should you naturalize, you will need to give up all original nationalities to become Japanese.
They are performing one of the most important jobs and deserve to be paid much more.
And they're being forced to put up with extreme parents over nonsense.
@user-pv5wc8km7nnow find people skilled enough, willing to do the job, and in many cases, brave enough to take the job, and you’ll have solved the shortage!
@user-pv5wc8km7n They are only getting pai d for the time they spend in school. They don't get paid for all the nights and weekends they work grading and prepping.
Don't forget to add all the hours we do after we go home for the day. Weekends too! That will take you waay over the 180 day mark.
YES!!! Teachers honestly need to be paid twice, if not THREE times what they are currently being paid. You're right, it is THE most important job!!!
I believe our government doesn't care. They want kids being abusive so that society as a whole, especially up and coming generations, are all (or mostly) criminals. Then they can have a society if degenerates, that are not educated, can't think for themselves, and are more easily mailable by that government.
A pay increase will be nice, but we also need some autonomy, standards for behavior, and supportive administration.
Thank you!
What teachers have found out is how little standing they have in a school. system. Even the most experienced and learned have no real power in decision making. Teachers who were very effective during the crisis, and who helped their students pass state tests were given basically pats on the back with credit being given to principals who careers they saved.
What about problematic teachers who would write-up kids for ridiculous non-reasons? Those teachers need to be ruled in too.
Same for health care. There isn't a nursing shortage, there is a shortage of nurses willing to work in the current conditions.
Nurses endure as much systematic abuse as teachers.
At least nurses are paid decently for their hard work. Teachers are not.
Too many professions where people are just bled/milked dry. If the working conditions and pay were improved, people would definitely want to work in these positions!
uh...no. there's a line to get into nursing schools coast to coast and nurses get PAID
I wanted to be a teacher but was talked out of it. Am so grateful i listened. Teachers do not get enough pay. Period.
How much money is enough?
I’m glad someone talked you out of it!
@user-pv5wc8km7n LOL ! I know you're Trolling and just need attention - so here -have some - you're welcome !
Keep in mind all the hours we work at night , on weekends , during Holidays and that most of us Teach during the summer- The " accurate wage" is the same as Costco workers > Which is where a colleague went when she quit . Bye Troll - poor freak
Pay is fine, commensurate with the schedule. Teachers don't work 12 hour shifts, nor are there 60-70 hour a week mandatory schedules. Day job hours, no wild shifts 6am start today, 9pm tomorrow. Teachers get weekends off, major holidays off, and of course winter and summer breaks without having to receive permission from your supervisor. No on-call contractual requirements to be pulled into work even on your days off. Try that kind of schedule in the medical, public safety, retail, or hospitality industries !
Teacher here for three decades.
Ten years ago I would have said too bad.
Now? I say you made the right choice.
I just quit. Couple of problems going on in practically all schools now.
1. Kids can barely read because the curriculum does not emphasize reading. Not much reading in schools. They mostly learn to read, sounding out words, but don't have much vocabulary or knowledge, so their comprehension is very low. They can't do basic math either because memorization is out of style
2.Curriculum does not include enough review, so students learn and forget afterwards.
3. Students all have cell phones. And many are in constant contact with their parents. So, if a student doesn't like something a teacher did, like enforce a rule the student broke, the student will text the parent and lie or exaggerate about what happened. So, the parent calls the principal, and the principal calls the teacher who has to defend himself against false allegations.
4. Administration does not support teachers but bullies teachers into doing silly activities, games, making posters, small group work, etc. Admin looks down on students reading and students writing and taking tests. The kids are supposed to learn from fellow kids instead of learning from a book or a teacher.
5. No discipline. Kids are out of control and disrespectful. Teachers are blamed for students' poor behavior. No consequences for bad behavior. Classroom management takes up half the time in school.
6. Teachers are not respected by Admin, parents, or students. Respect for teachers makes a huge difference. Teachers are hired for their education and knowledge and experience and then are told not to use that and instead are bossed around by someone without the knowledge, training, or experience. Frustrating to know how to help the students but not able to do so because of administration or the curriculum or the district.
I just quit too, for most of these reasons and more. What’s your next move?
Coaching a little. Maybe some long-term subbing. But I am 64 and am semi-retired now. Good luck.
: ( I'm so sorry for you all. Teachers and the people who grow and produce our food should, in my opinion, make way more than these idiots who do nothing for society (top actors, politicians, CEOS, etc.) Kids are annoying, but parents are worse - bunch of little princesses. There was a group of teachers and parents who were sick of this, and who opened their own school. It was awesome, and there was a lot of engagement by parents (was part of the agreement parents signed when their kids started in the school - as well as other agreements). If a kid was really a jerk, they were kicked out. It seemed like teachers were supported, and although the finances of the school were small, (even with collecting donations from parents, community, etc), and the teacher salaries were not great, there was always such a feeling that people cared and worked together. It is just a little school, but a big part of the community.
Not that teachers need more work, but is it possible for teachers to join together and make their own schools in more places? (With some as admins, etc) of course, I guess, how do you keep crazy people from joining... Idk.
The US is being undermined in so many ways, these stupid politicians and 'amerka' people don't even see it. Education is one of the ways. The country will fall, at this rate. (Is failing)
I wish the new math would go away. It’s so ridiculous. I’m teaching my grandchild how to do it the way I learned
I'm 17 years in at this point and you're not wrong. In primary grade levels, we don't do vocabulary words anymore. Spelling is atrocious compared to just ten years ago, most of the time the kids will just spell out words (that they don't know the meaning of anyway) phonetically, which is wrong a lot of the time. I'll also add that we've got all kinds of "specialists" these days. Reading specialists, Math specialists, behavior specialists, it's ridiculous. It doesn't take much for a child to be identified as having some kind of disability , and get an IEP. What happens then is that if the child exhibits a behavior that is deemed a result of this perceived disability, they don't get any consequences for their actions. These disabilities can be very, very vague as well, vague to the point where virtually any action of the child can be covered. We've had students that were so disruptive that the classroom would have to be evacuated To be perfectly clear you have one student causing the disruption, instead of removing the student from the room, instead you leave the student in the room, and everyone else has to leave, then you have to call in the counselor , and administrator (or two), and the behavior specialist , and they'll try to talk down the student causing the the issue, this will take 20-30 minutes, and it will happen 3-5 times a week; Thus robbing the students who are doing what they are supposed to of an education. I might be dating myself, but back in the 80's when I was in elementary school, if you were acting out in class to that extent, you were going to be taken (or dragged if need be) to the principal's office, and you were going to get ISS at minimum, and your parents weren't going even try to defend your actions, and would probably do worse once you got home. But today we accommodate the kids causing the issues, at the expense of the ones who are there to learn. It's absurd.
This is my 24th year as a teacher. I would never advise a prospective college student to go into education.
Me too. I wish they would offer early out
When I was in college and people asked me what my major was, whenever I said "English," people always asked "Do you want to be a teacher?" My response? "Not in this country."
Now I teach English in South Korea.
They're going through an elaborate form of abuse.
-Pay for all supplies with your own money.
-Salary that is under a living wage.
-Not allowed to remove students who disrupt the lesson.
-Hatred from parents and state politicians.
Even the immigrants who come here for teaching jobs had the same complaints. And abruptly quit like everyone else.
Did they go back to their home country?
I agree, but the salary isn't "under a living wage". When I worked as a director in tv, I made less than my nieces who are teachers and I did just fine. I didn't live in a big house in an expensive area, but I did fine. I'll agree that teaching should be a higher-paying job because they shape our future, but it bothers me when they say teachers can't live on what they make. That's simply not true.
@user-pv5wc8km7n Backing Biden and the No Person is Illegal policy
@user-pv5wc8km7n Right to work states neuter unions. That and most states teachers don;t have to be in one . Even non right to work states
@user-pv5wc8km7nTeacher Unions are why the teacher professions are suffering.
I was a middle school long-term substitute this year in FL. Luckily my class was cut by the district due to numbers, so the decision was made for me. I wanted to quit about a month in, but I did not want to abandon the kids. I experienced burn out so quickly! I feel for the teachers who do this all year, they have so much to deal with. The majority of the work is classroom management, trying to get the kids to sit down and listen. The majority of the students could not care less about learning. They are all apathetic. What's even worse is that they get passed through year after year. If a lot of these students were actually failed they would still be in 3rd grade. I had an 8th grader that could barely read and did not even know the months of the year. I think a lot of people would be surprised at how many students can barely read or write. I have no idea how these kids are going to survive in the real world. They have no real consequences to not even trying. They know they will be passed through, so they don't care. I have gone back to day-to-day subbing only 2-3 times a week. I cannot handle working anymore than that. It is draining trying to get the students to do their work. The education system enables the kids and it is sickening. I would have loved to be a full time teacher, but not anymore!
I'm not surprised, a friend of mine who now teaches post undergrad at a uni (thank God for that) told me that kids coming out of high school were not functionally literate. Not "I could read or write an academic paper" illiterate, like "I can't read basic instructions, road signs or paperwork and understand what they mean." sadly, it seems she is more right by the day.
You're absolutely right.
@user-pv5wc8km7n Keep in mind they work more than 40 hours a week and with required training they work during the summer months
@user-pv5wc8km7n FYI: teachers do a lot of “off the clock” hours correcting papers, preparing lessons, & helping students.
A nice breeding ground for little sociopaths : ( what a sad fate for the future! Hello dark ages! That's terrible, I'm so sorry : (
Just had an interview to be a teacher’s aide and we only spoke for 6 minutes and I received an immediate offer…these schools have it bad..
Well, thats in General not a good omen regarding any Job...
@@friedrichjunzt true, the shortage was bad bad
I taught in the US for 5 years and finally moved overseas to teach. If I would have stayed in the states, I would have quit being a teacher. I couldn't handle the politics, the behavior of the kids, and the lack of support after the pandemic.
Seems like the pay overseas is better and the students act better because they're parents are teaching them at home.
Require administrators (who make the “big bucks” & hide out in “cushy offices”) to teach at least 1 class every day.
There is a salary shortage, a respect shortage, a school maintenance shortage ... plenty of shortages.
Unfortunately, there is an abundance of political meddling.
lol so true. I would also put in Obnoxious Parent meddling too.
And a lot of spending on the wrong things.
@@johnschuh8616 Football stadiums
@@sidneyboo9704 It's the parents who are paying for the education.
Let’s not forget students misbehaving and parents blaming schools for their bad behavior and grades…
Overworked, underpaid, and disrespected on a daily basis. Why would anyone choose teaching?
Same with CYBERSECURITY.. there is no shortage. Just employers unwilling to train
High school teacher with 18 years experience.
DO NOT DO THIS JOB.
I've been subbing in the Central Valley of California for the past 5 years. I thought about becoming a teacher but ultimately decided against it because of behavior issues. In most high school classes I've been in, with the typical class having 25 to 32 students, there seems to be, at most, 5 or 6 students who have any intention of learning. For the rest, they may as well be at a daycare center playing video games or in a juvenile detention facility. Just the other day, during a prep period, I was able to sit in on a 9th grade math class and just observe. Every other minute the teacher had to stop teaching and deal with bad behavior, stupid questions unrelated to math, and bathroom requests. (Three times during the lesson, one student actually interrupted the teacher and asked if he could finish his history paper because it was due next period, despite the teacher repeatedly telling him no. Another student asked if he could call his mom.) It was more like a class of second or third graders. I woud lose it if I had to teach in such an envionment.
@@thehighllama8101 That's a no-go for me, too. I've been trying to get a handle on whether this kind of atmosphere has become normal in some schools, most schools, or nearly all schools. I've got about one career change left in me, and I've always wanted to be a teacher; but like you, I would not tolerate such an environment. Incidentally, I thought that enrollment stats for teacher training programs might be a proxy for the answer to how widespread the problem is. If nearly all schools everywhere are run in this horrifically permissive, unserious way, then enrollment in teacher training would collapse, wouldn't it? (What 18 year old would emerge from the classroom experience you described, and say, "I'd love to lead a classroom like that!" From what I can tell, enrollment numbers are significantly down, but I can't describe it as a collapse. For what it's worth--
5th Grade teacher in his 29th year making 134k.......Don't do this job!!
@@BarryBrandon-mz7gb WHERE?
*starts packing house*
You get NO support from most parents. And many administrators are horrible. I have no words to describe the dysfunctional school boards. And the students have learned that they owe teachers (or any other adults) no respect. At all. Period. Good luck teaching your own kids.
I used to work at a daycare for a couple of years. The pay way awful , the turnover rate was high, management was bad, the parents were HORRIBLE AND RUDE. ITS NOT WORTH IT. They wonder why there’s a teacher shortage…. TREAT TEACHERS BETTER. Now, I teach overseas . It’s much better
I was encouraged by many people to be a teacher and I refused to listen to any of them because I have heard horror stories about being a teacher my entire life and I went to public school. You can’t tell make a job that horrible, tell people how horrible it is and expect them to want that job. It doesn’t matter if the job needs filling. My life matters more than your stupid, not valued, arbitrary, employment role.
Florida is literally hiring anyone to teach at this point with a degree in anything. That’s what I find so beyond disrespectful to these people that worked hard for their degrees
Why? When i was in public HS, most of the teachers didn't even teach what they got their degree in. Teaching isn't hard, dealing with the kids/parents is what ruins it.
@@landor7610I disagree, teaching is hard these days. Your not considering the learning disabilities and how it manifests with each child as well as the strategies you have to know or research as well as time manage in order to give the students with these struggles time so you can sit down and break it down to them. I have had several teachers that did this for me and you can tell it was hard for them because as a child, I can't communicate what I'm not understanding. Especially if you are dealing with a learning disability. It's just a lot of repetition and observation. You can imagine , a lot of notes home saying your child came to school with homework unfinished etc.
In truth teaching degrees are the least regarded of all.
not everyone can get up in front and profess you need to know how to teach, it has to be studied, people like you with these beliefs are the problem! go ahead teach us algebra bet you don't even remember@@landor7610
Florida teachers should quit or refuse to spend their own money on anything related to their jobs, including being recertified by the state.
I spent my own money to buy supplies, and I was required to submit the receipts to be eligible for the $300 ANNUAL allowance (almost feel like an insult. I spent more than twice of that on supplies per year). Over the summer, due to unforeseeable circumstance, I couldn't "clean-up" and prepare the classroom before summer. By the time I got back this year, I lost my refrigerator, microwave, all of the extension cords, and many other smaller items like double sided tapes. I had TWO days to clean up and prepare for classes, and I had ONE day notice that I'll have to teach two science classes on top of the math class I've had.
Stressful does not even begin to describe the state of mind that I'm in.
Why? I would let the kids go without pencils before I spent my money on that.
I don't ever recall TEACHERS buying my school supplies. I don't ever recall TEACHERS buying school supplies for my children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren. Where does this lie come from?
@teenahweenah2608 right... we had a long list of things we needed then we shamefully asked our poor parents for the necessary items.
@@whitneyv.8211 Parent are responsible for school supplies. PERIOD.
@teenahweenah2608 I think the district is responsible. Anyway I don't understand why a poor person (teacher) would give their money back to their employer.
I have taught for 23 years. This will be my last. I'm quitting to be treated like an adult.
Student behavior is the main reason. No discipline, no consequences = chaos.
I taught in FL and my salary never touched 50k. I don't like FL or CA's politicizing of education; my opinion is we need to stick to teaching the fundamentals and let families navigate those other topics. I taught in Japan for over 5 years just before the pandemic, and they stick to mostly pen and paper still, teach the fundamentals, and the kids are performing much better than ours. Elementary kids don't have smartphones/devices, either. America needs to undo most of what it's done in the past 5 to 10 years curriculum-wise as well as pay teachers better. Oh, and reduce the number of admin in the school; most of them are useless and make more than the teachers!
Been teaching in Japan for just over 7.5 years after having taught in Korea for 4 years. The device dependency is starting to become a problem here, too, with A. I. and iPads and tech in general taking over, but I concur that they are still learning certain fundamental skills that lack in our systems.
@@LMLification Ah, have things changed some since I left? I left in February 2020.
Even after teaching in the US for 2 years and leaving the classroom, I started working as a tutor. And if parents wanna know what the tutor company is charging you $70/hr for (and paying us tutors $20/hr for and pocketing the rest), it's older reading comprehension and phonics materials. The center here in Florida is all 70s-90s materials and methods, pen and pencil. And students are seeing marked improvements, partly because those methods work, and partly because it trains the kids in focus. No phones for 1-2 hours at a time-- just me, the text, pencil, and paper.
@@stephsteph4503 Yes, I have watched the classroom dynamic change from April 2016 through now. Even the middle-aged adults of the local population have seen the shift.
I have also taught and tutored STEM in the U.S. and have dealt with private schools, learning and test prep centers and in-home tutoring companies taking advantage of teachers and tutors. Over a 5-year period before moving overseas, I taught and worked at these facilities and also at a public school for a little while. I am a proponent of traditional teaching and learning methods because they are good at building long-term acquisition, better organizational skills and learner autonomy. There are some benefits in using learning management systems and other software, but the dependency on this has gone up significantly over the years of its development.
Thank goodness that I don’t have a child going through today’s learning environment. I would have to homeschool her/him.
Schools are run on teacher donations of both time and money. If your child arrives on the first day of school to an inviting classroom environment, it means the teacher donated a week or two of unpaid labor to prepare it. Visit a teacher supply store during the summer to see how much teachers actually spend on supplies. You might be surprised who's helping to fund your child's education.
Don’t they get paid 2 months off?
@@FreeJulianAssange23 no
@@FreeJulianAssange23try two weeks
Teachers are paid for 10 months!!!! Where do people get this idea that they're paid for the summer break?! Teachers can choose to get their 10 month pay stretched over 12 months, or they can choose to get it during the 10 months and put money aside on their own to stretch it over the summer months.
@@NaturalBrownCupcake EXACTLY!!! And then...we either work summer school to try and get ahead, or get a job bartending or as a camp counselor. There are no summers off, especially if you are supporting yourself!!!
Yet they don’t appreciate us
Yeah because parents found out what you really teach. That's why
#P01135809 looks like a 5 yo that mom told him no.
Educators are professionals not "glorified babysitters." With the raise of "parental rights" laws over-worked educators are forced to comply with additional cruel, disruptive & unreasonable laws. Educators are tired of dealing with hostile overbearing parents.
It's the parents right. It's their kids and they pay you. So
Then the parents will need to understand that teachers can and will quit whenever they like, leaving an increasingly understaffed situation. @@jenniferbombard8211
@@jenniferbombard8211 I'm talking about parents who do not understand that educating our children takes college degrees & specialized training. If these parents think they can do better than home school your children!
Funny you say it, when I enroll my son to preschool, the school representatives straight out tell me this while she process my paperwork. “We are not your daycare. We are not your babysitter”. I didn’t expect them as such but I am surprised they were blunt.
Regardless, as a teacher, dealing with young children/baby, besides teaching, teacher do need provide some basic care and comfort. If teacher think they want to teach robots without concern for kids emotions and characters, go find another job. Young kinds have tantrums they need to sort out for example, it is part of growth. As much as parents hope that tantrums end immediately, it will take time so the kid will throw tantrum at home and school.
@@annat6249 teachers feel this way because they are not paid to care and comfort. They are paid to teach. You want them to care and comfort .... basically be a second parent for the children. Then that needs to be advocated for because right now the majority doesn't care.
Florida used to have a decent public ed system. At least in the better funded regions. That was when Lawton Chiles was Gov'r.
its a miserable job. too much work and too little money. its not worth it.
I was a 5th grade teacher in a public school in North Carolina under a cultural exchange program. Just lasted 2 months. It was so stressful physically, emotionally and psychologically. I could not stand the US educ system. Students are so entitled and disrespectful , parents are oversensitive and the principal is so unsupportive. The school and district officials are afraid of the parents. They don't back up teachers. It was so impossible to educate American kids with awful behavior and zero discipline in classroom. I felt like a babysitter more than a teacher. We could not even leave students and go to the bathroom. I also noticed that their academic knowledge and skills are way too low for their level. They don't value education despite having so many resources available at school. Across NC, SC, VA and FL, most of us foreign teachers have the same issues regardless of levels we are teaching. Due to frustrations and bad experiences at school, many of us had already quit and went overseas to continue teaching or shift career. I went back to Asia and now working in an international school. To be honest, Asian students are actually way better and genuinely respectful.
I remember in high school I had some motivation in becoming a history teacher. Throughout the years, I realized how miserable teachers are and pretty much gave up on the option for a career. I still worry about the future of education in this country.
I’m a teacher and I’m not miserable, but my students are great and I know how fortunate I am to teach in a blue state.
Teachers do not have careers. The only career ladder in the schools is outside the classroom.
Pretty content teacher here 22 years in
@dogmomofive7011 amazing that's how you look at this situation, I could imagine the political garbage your students have to hear
Not to mention we work WELL beyond the School hours. And we come out of pocket frequently.
Yup.
I recently just quit a teaching job in NC. My co-worker wasn't "pulling her weight" according to admin and their evaluation of test scores. Admin decided to place the burden of being the sole math teacher for the whole grade level on me, and add another 40 students onto my roster. This is 3 months in, after coming in mid-year, AFTER a decision to put the teacher that I currently replaced into a literacy lab because they felt SHE was inadequate. Honestly, I think that the real problem is the lack of leadership and innovation needed to address the needs of our students. Ego plays a big part, and most higher ups are ALL about looking good to their constituents, rather than looking out for the very people that make or break a school...the teachers.
Let's not forget that teachers are not only educators but child care for many people.
No. I'm an educator. This is part of the problem.
There is a huge number of broken families.
I'm surprised teachers haven't done this 15-20 years ago. It's been a joke for a long time how teachers are underpaid and wasn't worth the time or study for a teaching position.
This has been going on for a long while. I suggest you get hold of a book called The Schools” by Martin Mayer, published in 1960. He was a lawyer who wrote about a number of best-selling books about some of the professions. “The Schools “ is his take on the schools at the time. The weaknesses of the schools then are what they are now, except much worse. Admiral Rickover encountered graduates as he trained men for the atomic submarines and so he led an effort to raise standards in the schools. The panic after Sputnik led to reforms but that was short-lived. Even though in 1965, the Federal Government got involved in the end that only made things worse. As bright women gained more opportunities in others fields, there was a brain drain from public education.
What can I say this generation of children is literally the worst in history in terms of respect and mental illness id quit too after getting cussed out daily by an 8-year-old who's parents couldn't care less
You think that is a reflection of the students themselves or the culture and adults around them? A lot of parents need to look themselves in the mirror…
@@EntertaningAmericadefinitely the culture and the adults around them.
I was able to recruit a teacher, underpaid, underappreciated and overworked, to an education marketing agency. This move created a better worklife balance, better culture from leadership and higher pay!
Teachers and nurses are going into Tech
I give to anyone who wants to teach these monsters today. Its like working retail but worse. So thank you teachers everywhere.
$75k min for teachers makes sense. Where i live, public school teachers make 6 figures and have a decent pension.
LOL! Maybe and if so in VERY FEW places and in VERY wealthy districts where most of us can't afford to live even with larger salaries ( like Silicon Valley ) and only if you've been Teaching for over 10 years . Most of us quit before making it through year 4 .
Where’s the toxic admin? Let them teach.
Let everybody who said they could do our jobs, do our jobs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I was a teacher, for 2 years.
Ever since, I strongly discourage anyone from getting into that field. It's a broken system, thanks in large part to the Heritage Foundation and the inability of all but the wealthiest families to have a full time stay at hime parent who is willing and able to actually fulfill that role (of a parent).
Correct! There are more than enough qualified and certified teachers to fill all the gaps. The issue is highly educated professionals being treated like babysitters and don’t get paid enough to live in the cities they teach in.
What other professional job quietly expects their enployees to dip into their own limited pockets for supplies?? Also as a retired teacher, I taught at a high school with a principal and two vice principals. When bad behavior warranted intervention, too often they were mia or totally ineffectual. Worse, in teacher meetings they would " make nice " with the parent rarely totally baking the teacher for their child's bad behavior. From what I hear the expecations from all side have only gotten worse for teachers. I would not encourage my son or daughter to go into this profession today.
I hate when people use salary as,a reason to quit. $50k per year is pretty good for Florida. Focus on the real issues: kids are awful today.
IT IS the pay , overwork , AND the kids, parents and right- wing lunatics taking over school boards and lack of respect
You all deserve more, much more, for the responsibility you have and the work you take on. But I also am astonished by how many news outlets explain that teachers are leaving quite simply due to pay and right wing politics.
@@jenniferabel2811 LOL! Ummm Those ARE 2 of the main reasons for Teachers in Red States. ( Besides it was Republicans who decided to seriously cut funding for Education Nationally under Reagan .) Teacher pay IS the # 1 REASON across the country Why do you think ALL of the states with the BIGGEST deficit in Teachers are from states with right wing policies ? The next 3 reasons - No consequences for bad student behavior , Parents and general disrespect .
@@sarahtiferet598 Interesting what you say! I live in the blue part, and the complaints I hear are the inverse--a lot of people saying that your 3rd and 4th reasons are unbearably bad, which makes the pay conditions unsupportable. I've obviously not spoken to a million teachers on this and should not pretend to make a universal diagnosis of the problem,; but your statement makes me wonder whether teachers' breaking points in red areas are often different than in blue. And yes, there are areas of the country that are so anti-tax that you can't drive on their pot-holed highways, and it's hard to imagine that they would tax themselves into good pay for teachers.
Edit: Your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th reasons, I should have said.
The student demographic makes a HUGE difference.
I’m a speech therapist working in the schools. I would never advise anyone to work in the schools it’s horrible they expect us to fix everything and everyone and expect us to see 70 kids a week so ridiculous
Good for them
let's not forget the other school employees. my husband is a school janitor. for us to afford a 2 bed room in California with 2 children we need a take home of $7000. We have less than $4000. On top of that, I can't find work because my husband's work hours keep getting in the way.
happily, we know someone who knows someone and we were able to find affordable housing.
It is a sad state of affairs. I’ve got nothing but respect for what what you teachers do. I have thought about teaching. But the truth is, I wouldn’t last a week with these disrespectful brats without having to take them down a few notches. NOBODY likes being humiliated for their own choices. But if it’s warranted, isn’t that how one learns NOT to make those choices again?? How is that wrong? A little humiliation never hurt anyone for long and it teaches humility.
@brendamyc3173 WRONG!!!!!
@@ninadaly7639 She agrees with you; she was being ironic. ( I think!!) And I agree with you, too.
I’m a teacher in Florida. I have taught for 14 years…my pay has gone up $13,000 in that time. Less than $1k a year, and this is with earning a Masters Degree during that time!
If they don’t want to raise our pay, give us free healthcare or something.
Master's degree not required. That's on you for doing that.
Free Healthcare? You're joking right?
8 weeks of summer vacation, most holidays off, guaranteed retirement, and now you want free Healthcare?
No
@@Jeff77398 LOL! awww how cute! Just another sad lonely Troll in the comment sections whenever Teachers are mentioned clearly in need of attention You could care less about Teachers EVERY SINGLE wealthy country has free healthcare. We DON"T get paid during summers we get a salary for 10 months and stretch that over the summer . Most of us work in the summer . But you know that. You're welcome for the attention ! Poor pathetic freak
US Teachers can get paid SOOOO MUCH MORE in other countries, fr- plus no worries about being shot, plus so so much more respect and less BS
They are paid low, crazy school boards, and crazy parents who with either have bad kids or want their kids to pass when they don’t turn in their homework. I think if you are single you probably could do it, but once you have a family if you are the breadwinner you will have to find something else. If it is the second income of the family, the majority of the money just ends up going to daycare and puts the family in a higher tax bracket…so more money 💴 goes to taxes. My wife was a teacher when she was in her twenties, but when we started having kids in our thirties she quit teaching since the pay was so low it would mainly go to daycare. My income was enough to support our family so she stopped teaching.
I teach in higher education and don't make anywhere near 50k. I just finally got to 40k after 5 years of full-time work at the institution, while also working multiple other jobs to make ends meet. This was my life passion, but unfortunately at this point I would not recommend taking this career path to anyone, and am looking into other options to get out myself.
Im so sorry for that.
get another job, don't feel guilty about
I absolutely agree with the lady that said the Pay minimum should be $75,000 as a starting Salary. However, many School Districts have to work with a allocated budget and, depending on the budget and other contributing factors that could play a part in the Teachers Pay being lower or higher. I currently work at a Charter School working as a Business and Finance Elective Teacher and Dual Enrollment Manager and fortunately i negotiated a Salary of $88,000 per year but the average Salary i am aware is around $50,000 at the Charter school i work with. The fortunate part is we dont have high turnover at our School but, the surrounding Public Schools had like a 500 plus Teacher Shortage which was Insane. Another blessing is that the School i work at the Kids actually want to Learn and there is hardly no behavioral problems at all.
I work for the state but not for education. We do hard hard work and havent gotten a pay increase for 10 years. However the legislature vote to pass to increase their pay every year. Insane
This is a real question, don’t they get summers off ?
Most teachers are under 10 month contracts, so our salary is for ten, not 12 months. Since we’re not paid in the summer, it’s not really having them off - it’s more like being unemployed, but knowing you have a position again in the fall. Summers are also when districts schedule a lot of professional development trainings, many that are required.
"A real question, not the beginning of the speech." Nice!
You're right that this re-por-tage has given us the impression that teachers are leaving due to low pay and right wing politics. The comments section, however, gives an entirely different picture of what the real issues are.
Incidentally, I do think teachers should be paid much more. I make WAY more than a teacher, but I know that I expend far less energy throughout my day than a teacher does. They also have more real responsibility than I do. This was never more clear to me than when, back in the day, I first put my five year old into the hands of her kindergarten teacher.
@@akc1739 right that’s what I mean at my job I don’t get 60 days off paid or unpaid, I would take it unpaid if it did to spend time with family and friends
@@jenniferabel2811 LOL!! OMG here you are again Trolling for attention .IT IS THE PAY. Cutting and pasting your comments now? . You're getting lazy! You still could care less about Teaching . But again , you're SO WELCOME for the attention ! Now, go get yourself a meaningful job, some friends and love .
As an 18 year teacher, I have 48 days until I am out of the profession forever. Thank GOD!!!
I did it for ten years. I don’t think the average american understands how exhausting this job is
Every teacher I know is burned out, poor and spends their personal money on their classroom.
Someone I know quit their teaching job last month to become a sub. Even with the pay cut they don't have to deal with all the baggage, paperwork, and politics.
The parents are annoying. A parent told me to work harder with her daughter 😊
Good for de Santis. There isn't a shortage it is that people leave cause everything is out of control!!
To all teachers doctors, nurses and other professionals. Leave Florida! There are other states who will pay you for your talent, respect your skills and will trust your judgment as a professional. Even now there are recruiters looking for you. How do I know this? Because I'm one of those recruiters. Leave Florida to rot, you don't have to put up with that nonsense. We have offers you all will want to hear.
This is a nationwide issue, not just a Florida issue. WA state is about the bluest state there is and even they have a huge shortage with teachers. And yea.... just leave florida huh? Cuz uprooting and moving to a different state is plausible for the majority of us ..
@@vegangainsfather2877 Very passionate speech. I cannot help but be touched. Unfortunately the reality of the 3 nurses and 5 teachers I've recruited this quarter from various parts of Florida makes everything you just said meaningless. But if it makes you feel better all of them are very happy and are paid very well. The game is the game.
@@galemartin9155 Meaningless? Why, because you supposedly helped 8 people. Well whoop-de-do.... wow, you are such an inspiration! But again, the majority of people in this country do not have the means to just up and leave to another state.... so what you said is meaningless
@@vegangainsfather2877 you said it not me😉 end transmission.
@@galemartin9155 "To all teachers doctors, nurses and other professionals. Leave Florida! " - galemartin9155
Of course parents want kids back in the classroom and not zoom, they need the daycare for all kids, high-school especially!
I have spent thousands of dollars in order to be able to do my job as a PreK teacher… I’m deeply in debt looking for another job..
To combat the nationwide teachers shortage that is plaguing American schools they need to take the initiative by incentivizing i.e. giving retention bonuses, hiring bonuses, raises that should be the top priority. Many teachers are fed up with low salary, violence, bullying, disrespect etc.
This has been an ongoing issue for decades. Teaching is an interim career, only for those to figure out what they’d like to do and move out after a few years.
I was advised that if you decide to teach, look for a job in a school with high property tax, in other words, rich neighborhoods. They have more funding to accomodate teachers
What is really happening the teachers is beyond belief to the point where there is no reason to even put out the details anymore. We are living in a world of top down management and I doubt anything is going to change especially for teachers.
I always wanted to teach but never did it because of the reputation of the system in general. So I teach in another profession.
Strange how you have 2 teachers mentioning Florida by name when California, Illinois, New York and Maryland have a larger turnout. Why weren't any teachers from those states offered a chance to state their grievances
Strange, indeed. This "piece" stank of narrative journalism.
Teachers are paid the highest in California and New York. More teachers are leaving where we make up to $140,000?
I am honestly worried about the people they are hiring if the qualified teachers quit. If they are desperate enough, non qualified or maybe even criminals can be a teacher. Yikes
Selfish, arrogant kids turn into selfish and arrogant parents… Older generations and parents will blame the kids and new generation for being weak and misbehaving without holding themselves accountable.
There is a shortage of parents willing to discipline their kids and support the teachers.
I would vote for $75K minimum starting salary for credentialed teachers nationwide. I don’t even have kids, but I appreciate them as a pillar of our society. Let’s go ppl!🍎📚🇺🇸
Every teacher I know is looking for a career pivot
After visiting my kid's school for parent teacher conferences, it seems like those who are still on the payroll have also quit teaching.
When you leave schools unmanageable and un teachable why should teachers teach??
Let's give someone a contact, their hours are mon-fri 9am to 3:20 pm and summers off, they need a good education so Let's pay them 50k oh and we will expect them to come in early, stay late, run extra programs and if the school doesn't have enough money for it they can provide it or have bake sales... how many of you would sign up for that job?
I love my students. I hate the parents and the administrations. Students are not the problem! The adults are!
the same treatment they give truck drivers ,low wages
Teachers should be able to enlist and get military pay also as well as benefits from both.
If I could quit I would, but my biggest problem is that my masters degrees are in education and I’ve spent the last 18 years teaching. I wouldn’t even know where to go to make at least what I’m making, preferably more.
This is where I am at now. What on earth do you do?
Cut the federal military budget by 10% and pay the teachers at least 75k base salary The money is there.
Good. Teachers should be required to do their job and be in the classroom. However, teachers also need support. Nobody should have to pay for the materials todo their job.
Florida has the lowest pay for nurses too
One teacher said she has been teaching for twenty years out of five years in South Carolina, I asked her do you have a teaching license in both states?
Modern slavery is closer than you think. Is exploitation just one bus stop before slavery?
I’m not surprised either 😢
You would have to be absolutely crazy to enter this profession now. Or a glutton for self-punishment.
She said yes, then my other question is do you transfer the license from Florida or do you go through the three years program from GATE or PACE to earn a teaching license certification in South Carolina?
If I have no education other than high school and make more than teachers with a degree, student debt, and the requirement to buy supplies than something is seriously wrong
😂💀 mothers should school their own kids. A prime example of people being destroyed for the lack of knowledge.
Oh yes, more free labor done by women that are already undervalued and overworked. YOU go teach them. Men need to step up.
What about fathers?
@@shawndevoid9813Thank you!
As a ziillennial, i deeply apologize for how poorly my generation are raising their kids.
If the kids are worse than my classmates 10+ years ago, that is really bad.
I dont blame teachers for quitting.