Yeah, this is one of few ways (outside of floor breaak/blast) which allows multiple odins hits in one combo. Since you'll get another odin hit attempt at the wall.
Here before the “what combos bro, just mash 22222, easy win OP out of place character, you’re paid off by Bandai, Yes you heard me right ThePaidMan” comments
Remember that they all called Victor, Eddy, and Lidia one button characters when they came out. They will do the same for the next characters to come out
the fact that they made a character have SUPER easy braindead autocombo for casuals as well as a million crazy combo routes for high level players is cool as fuck to me. clive is the definition of easy to learn, hard to master
For the ch ff2 combo on females, i found that if you do a half/full sidestep right after the launch (don't micro step, you have to cover some distance), you can do the max damage staple (d1, ws4, db1+2,1) everytime. I tested this on Ling and it's just as consistent as when you use this combo on the males. No sacrificing damage!
If you just skip the stuff in between and go straight to db1+2 after the launcher it works on guys and girls and does ab the same damage no real trade off and works super consistent 🤷♀️
332 is busted among many others. Ws2, db1+2, 1, 22, 332 will give you 84 dmg. This is literally easier than all of Alisa’s combo. Better yet, if you manage to lv5 the zan, just use that instead of 332 for the same combo for a whopping 95 dmg. But it’s not as common. However ws2 is ultra common. Just block one hell sweep or snake and you got em half off. These are no heat combos btw.
Clive won't be seen in tournaments. His frames and pokes aren't impressive. Has also poor lows. People already realised just jab him out during his phenix shift
@ rn is just all knowledge checks. People are figuring out the strings. Pheonix isn’t busted but 1 will power crush that jab. What’s busted is the stupid range of wr2 and pheonix can actually put them into a forever 50/50 at distance. Phoenix 4 and 2 aren’t punishable.
@@idontgetscared it's true that f1+2 needs a homing nerf, but honestly aside from a few things he really ain't that strong. I still fear a good drag player who won't even let me jab. Lot of clive sword swipes have poor frames and are punishable. He's definitely not weak and his mix up gameplay is prob the best way to play him as i can get on average 75-85 damage. But yeah if I had to verse a Clive or a drag or nina. I'd rather take Clive. Because I know I can just keep 112 and jab my way through and poke him down when he's trying to do his slow launchers. Yoshi is even far more scarier due to his unpredictable gameplay. So far every Clive I see almost plays the same way but I just pop my power crush during his shift and keep winning. If they block my power crush then it means they've stopped their shift i.e no mix up play. He just has to do his 11 small jab and finish.
@ it’s too soon to tell but I think Clive plays different game than Tekken. It sounds like most Clive players you’ve met are playing Tekken. I think up close, Clive sucks. Mid tier at best. But at distance he becomes untouchable, undodgeable, unpunishable. It depends on the player but he has plenty of mixup options that can be really annoying. I’m actually using him now. For me out of those three, I’d take anyone but Clive. one parry will create distance to start wr2 spam mixup.
Good to know I wasn't going crazy with all the combo drops on female characters. Hope they fix consistency on a later patch since it doesn't seem intended
Hmm I wonder if doing a launcher which allows you to do B2 immediately as a follow up, then it's possible to dash in, duck and do WS4 after, and then do DB1+2 etc-etc. I need to try that.
What would u suggest for smaller maps or being a bit close to the wall, Id say the mid air attack variants won't work Btw, I don't have him yet still Im curious
A good staple that works on both male and female characters is launcher, 1, b2, then proceed with the db1+2, 1 etc. It works for almost all launchers including counter hit ones like db4
the route i have been using for wall carry and damage that works on everyone is launcher (df2 ect) db1+2,1, 3, dash 4,4 f 2,1 ~ df1,2 (or b1) f 2,1, or 1, or 2,2
With floor blast you can get almost 2 full bars off a counter hit ff2. An easy one would be FF2CH> 1 > 2,2,1+2 > 2,2,2 > out of phoenix shift 2,2. Gets 3 odin sword attacks in one combo lol, you can prob squeeze more damage in with a different combo but that one is easy to pull off and the ff2 will prime the floor for 2,2,1+2 to start the floor blast.
@@dontaskmeman both end up standing and Clive at -1 which kinda sucks since you want to keep momentum after a wallcombo, its cool to get some meter but not at the cost of losing your turn
I'm surprised yesterday I fought Clive players 1 hour straight and got rundown of course then I'm thankful after that I got to matched with real Tekken characters. The whiff punish from one airport to another wall splat heat engager is salt inducing in the highest leve.
@ I get where you’re coming from but this guy is especially boring with his stance dash into 50/50 where one of the mids is an armour move? His b1+2 can hit almost full screen, it’s minus on block but the push back is too far that I can’t punish with Electric. His F1+2 is plus and tracks on both sides. Did I mention he has a sword?
@hamooddd just block. His lows aren't threatening. And wait for him to try and launch. Every single launcher he has is punishable. I just wait till they try and launch and punish them with my jabs and 112 combos. For his stance you'll be surprised if you just low jab him out of it. People sit there not doing anything I'm thinking maybe throw a power crush to stop me? But nope they freeze up waiting. Its cause he's new. But so far every single dlc character hasn't been higher than mid tier. Understand in the whole year no one has dethroned Drag, Nina, Jin, Yoshi and Alissa. They're far more reliable and have better frames overall. Clive wll prob be placed in mid tier as I'm already seeing good counter play and it's not even been a week
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I love the part where Clive goes bagoosh bagoosh bagoosh bagoosh
i too love that part
i love the part where he says "i'll come" 😩
"Build METER....BIG ZAN!!"
Say no more fam.
8:26 instead of stance 21, you can do stance 22b for wall travel, has better recovery
Yeah, this is one of few ways (outside of floor breaak/blast) which allows multiple odins hits in one combo. Since you'll get another odin hit attempt at the wall.
Also if you have meter can do the 2 1+2.
Here before the “what combos bro, just mash 22222, easy win OP out of place character, you’re paid off by Bandai, Yes you heard me right ThePaidMan” comments
People easily block 22222 cause it's all mid attcks
glad to see they are wrong seeing that Clive plays differently...
50 something damage vs all the other cool stuff he can do.
Remember that they all called Victor, Eddy, and Lidia one button characters when they came out. They will do the same for the next characters to come out
the fact that they made a character have SUPER easy braindead autocombo for casuals as well as a million crazy combo routes for high level players is cool as fuck to me. clive is the definition of easy to learn, hard to master
MUH PROMINENCE!!
😂😂😂
2:40 Clive explained in layman's terms
But.. my prominence ..
For the ch ff2 combo on females, i found that if you do a half/full sidestep right after the launch (don't micro step, you have to cover some distance), you can do the max damage staple (d1, ws4, db1+2,1) everytime. I tested this on Ling and it's just as consistent as when you use this combo on the males. No sacrificing damage!
Gonna try this when I get home after work
Leo gender confirmed
Thank you for this guide!!! I can finaly enjoy the bar properly
The combo inconsistencies with the female characters needs to be fixed
I’m pretty happy that the character is more flashy than super heavy damage
Kazuya: "how are you still alive"
TMM: *shuckles* "what? you thought a measly 8 hours ranked could kill me?"
Such sage advice, ‘don’t jerk it too fast, microdash in, to pick up the ladies’
I just found something, 9:48 this combo works on female characters if you SSR before you do the D+1, WR4
What is ssr?
@@vinniegret4841 sidestep right
@@j.i.nthenobody54 damn this was basic, somehow i missed this 🙃
OH BOY IT'S 5AM, TIME TO WATCH MAINMAN
Brother, what is sleep anyway. I am done at work xD
If you just skip the stuff in between and go straight to db1+2 after the launcher it works on guys and girls and does ab the same damage no real trade off and works super consistent 🤷♀️
1:46 YES, it actually makes clive so much more fun and unique when you're playing him and working towards something every match
@6:09 and @6:40 LMFAO
TMM please never change
332 is busted among many others.
Ws2, db1+2, 1, 22, 332 will give you 84 dmg. This is literally easier than all of Alisa’s combo. Better yet, if you manage to lv5 the zan, just use that instead of 332 for the same combo for a whopping 95 dmg. But it’s not as common. However ws2 is ultra common. Just block one hell sweep or snake and you got em half off.
These are no heat combos btw.
Clive won't be seen in tournaments. His frames and pokes aren't impressive. Has also poor lows. People already realised just jab him out during his phenix shift
@ rn is just all knowledge checks. People are figuring out the strings. Pheonix isn’t busted but 1 will power crush that jab. What’s busted is the stupid range of wr2 and pheonix can actually put them into a forever 50/50 at distance. Phoenix 4 and 2 aren’t punishable.
@@idontgetscared it's true that f1+2 needs a homing nerf, but honestly aside from a few things he really ain't that strong. I still fear a good drag player who won't even let me jab. Lot of clive sword swipes have poor frames and are punishable. He's definitely not weak and his mix up gameplay is prob the best way to play him as i can get on average 75-85 damage. But yeah if I had to verse a Clive or a drag or nina. I'd rather take Clive. Because I know I can just keep 112 and jab my way through and poke him down when he's trying to do his slow launchers. Yoshi is even far more scarier due to his unpredictable gameplay. So far every Clive I see almost plays the same way but I just pop my power crush during his shift and keep winning. If they block my power crush then it means they've stopped their shift i.e no mix up play. He just has to do his 11 small jab and finish.
@ it’s too soon to tell but I think Clive plays different game than Tekken. It sounds like most Clive players you’ve met are playing Tekken. I think up close, Clive sucks. Mid tier at best. But at distance he becomes untouchable, undodgeable, unpunishable. It depends on the player but he has plenty of mixup options that can be really annoying.
I’m actually using him now. For me out of those three, I’d take anyone but Clive. one parry will create distance to start wr2 spam mixup.
I'm at work until 7am I hope he's out for use mere standard edition mortals
9:01 does F2 1 instead of D1 WR4 after the B1 counter hit do more damage?
Think it also struggles on women.
Don't think 1, b2 does tho
we need command history old man 😭
Good to know I wasn't going crazy with all the combo drops on female characters. Hope they fix consistency on a later patch since it doesn't seem intended
D1,ws4 works on females if you side step left first
Might be the first time mainman cares about flashiness over optimization because of the meter.
I just love hearing TMM saying Final Fantasy names and terms..im a simple bagoosher
So… you need bar combos to set the bar? That’s bars!
You can hold b and not get the sideswitch when doing phx2,2. Good for wallcarry, zen bar and no sideswitch
You can do d2, ws4 route on females if you micro step after launch
Hmm I wonder if doing a launcher which allows you to do B2 immediately as a follow up, then it's possible to dash in, duck and do WS4 after, and then do DB1+2 etc-etc. I need to try that.
Quise comprar el personaje y no me dejó porque dice que tengo q comprar algo antes....será el pase del año?es eso?
What would u suggest for smaller maps or being a bit close to the wall, Id say the mid air attack variants won't work
Btw, I don't have him yet still Im curious
D1 ws4 actually doesn’t work on Leo. For some reason.
We love meter baagooosh
BIG ZAN is the new ZANTETSUKEN ❤😂
"if that doesnt kill you nothing will"
what about 16 hours?
A good staple that works on both male and female characters is launcher, 1, b2, then proceed with the db1+2, 1 etc. It works for almost all launchers including counter hit ones like db4
the route i have been using for wall carry and damage that works on everyone is launcher (df2 ect) db1+2,1, 3, dash 4,4 f 2,1 ~ df1,2 (or b1) f 2,1, or 1, or 2,2
even funnier most clives I fought gained lvl5 in round 2 and just doesn’t use it😂
I’m a bushin Steve Clive is so op and easy
Zantetsuken is way too strong
I cannot get the dash after the air kick
im really having a hard time getting down all his combos
After D1+2 CH launcher, you can do B2, DB1+2,1 blue spark 3, DB2,1, it does the same dmg and wall travels.
You can even squeeze in some dash 4,4f stuff after the 3
Lol they even made the zantetsuken just a copy of ffxvi, way less damage for the bigger damage.
We honestly need a more efficient method of building meter since you'd most likely consume it in one go (1+4 move) so very time consuming
Eh, I think he's solid without Zan I rather not have him rely on Zan
now you're asking for too much
I think making a choice about combos instead of having everything streamlined to be optimal with less choice is healthy for the character.
This guy thinks hes playing the actual FF16 instead of a fighting game
As someone who loves Clive dearly I don't think he needs this at all 😂 he's fine as is I think
Hardest combo for me it's the 10 hit combo right now... The timing of it feels weird
Agree
Can you get multiple odin hits in one combo?
Not without a floor break I believe
With floor blast you can get almost 2 full bars off a counter hit ff2. An easy one would be FF2CH> 1 > 2,2,1+2 > 2,2,2 > out of phoenix shift 2,2. Gets 3 odin sword attacks in one combo lol, you can prob squeeze more damage in with a different combo but that one is easy to pull off and the ff2 will prime the floor for 2,2,1+2 to start the floor blast.
@gavin8216 wouldnt ending it with the odin heat smash give you more?
Good!
I'l COOM
i wouldnt recommend 2,2,1+2 as wall ender since you end up in a bad disadvantage if they quick tech back...
The frames say -29 but I tested it and I don't think it's actually that bad
@@dontaskmeman both end up standing and Clive at -1 which kinda sucks since you want to keep momentum after a wallcombo, its cool to get some meter but not at the cost of losing your turn
please bagoosh me Clive
Most clives doing suck. Bruh the character is out for 3 days lmao
And the next noob charakter
So clive is sexist
He treats men an women different 😂
I for one don't care about zantetsuken too much cause every Odin attack is 100% recoverable
what combos bro, just mash 22222, easy win OP out of place character, you’re paid off by Bandai, Yes you heard me right ThePaidMan
Karl the MailMan SWE Malone
I'm surprised yesterday I fought Clive players 1 hour straight and got rundown of course then I'm thankful after that I got to matched with real Tekken characters. The whiff punish from one airport to another wall splat heat engager is salt inducing in the highest leve.
We playing Soul Calibur 7 with this one ☝️
Nah, Soul Calibur doesn't juggle people around for a thousand year
@ not 7 they added new system
Masku!
Should've added Guts instead
bro please be fr😒
Guts design too basic
No, he isn't from FF.
Anyone but miguel looking ass😂
Guts would have been a cool choice The list of "should have added instead" gets longer
this character is so unbearably boring to fight, everything is a 50/50. even when i win i dont feel accomplished
thats just the game in general
@ I get where you’re coming from but this guy is especially boring with his stance dash into 50/50 where one of the mids is an armour move? His b1+2 can hit almost full screen, it’s minus on block but the push back is too far that I can’t punish with Electric. His F1+2 is plus and tracks on both sides. Did I mention he has a sword?
@hamooddd Yoshi and Victor also have a sword and they're higher on the tier list than Clive. So whats the problem?
@hamooddd just block. His lows aren't threatening. And wait for him to try and launch. Every single launcher he has is punishable. I just wait till they try and launch and punish them with my jabs and 112 combos. For his stance you'll be surprised if you just low jab him out of it. People sit there not doing anything I'm thinking maybe throw a power crush to stop me? But nope they freeze up waiting. Its cause he's new. But so far every single dlc character hasn't been higher than mid tier. Understand in the whole year no one has dethroned Drag, Nina, Jin, Yoshi and Alissa. They're far more reliable and have better frames overall. Clive wll prob be placed in mid tier as I'm already seeing good counter play and it's not even been a week
@@Superfoodcookie Right? that's what Im saying. I think people are just overwhelmed by him because he's new
Why is he still not visible to buy when he is supposed to be available today?
instead of df1,4. you can use d1,ws4
One of the most boring and uninteractive characters to play against
"bagoosh, bagoosh, bagoosh, bagoosh, bagoosh" ~ TMM 🫡
Such sage advice, ‘don’t jerk it too fast, microdash in, to pick up the ladies’