I see a lot of comments still just making up all kinds of stuff as an excise to just be mad at youtube, which again doesnt help the problems. Im all for fighting back when it’s needed but just making stuff up to be mad doesnt solve anything. They wont listen then.
It's strangely heartwarming that you can tell Sean is angry about the problems in this system, but you can also see the love and care that he has for the community and the system in general.
Forgotten or just stopped giving a shit. Sure the content creators are their bread and butter but advertisers and investors bring in even more revenue...when money talks, bullshit walks.
I doubt this will get read, but their lack of transparency exists for a couple reasons. The first is plausible deniability to protect themselves legally. Much like most things legally, they give themselves a lot of grey area to wiggle within, so they’re never necessarily guilty or not guilty of certain actions or inactions. The second is to prevent anyone from actually figuring out the algorithms, so they can’t be exploited. TH-cam, fb, and all the other platforms do this. Heck, the government does this, which is why most Americans unknowingly break 17 laws a day lol. Keeping the lack of transparency will keep them in power over customers and creators. The only way they will change is with platform competition. But I guarantee you youtube and other social media are receiving government subsidies and funding, which keeps them at the top and prevents any meaningful competition. Zuckerberg already said they worked with the FBI on Rogan’s podcast. They don’t do that for free. They get stuff in return for cooperation. When a government favors companies, that secures their spot at the top.
They've also forgotten "Broadcast Yourself" and "Don't Be Evil." It's a capitalistic and predatory environment now that rewards the wrong things, and punishes the wrong things.
I think the record ping-pong I had on a video was - green by bots - yellow by bots - green by manual review - age-gated by manual review - restored to green by manual review I don't mind things that are on the edge of "inapproperiate" to get demonetized or gated when it crosses a line. But it's so inconsistent that the "line" just feels random at times
i think possibly there is a bit of missing communication (that or opinions on the matter) about what is acceptable, but keep up your good work you are very entertaining.
Exactly! I think many of us know a video like my eye tracker is pushing things but other stuff getting flagged when its far more innocent makes it feel very RNG
I'm glad Sean is taking a nice juicy break! You deserve it dude. He is still active on Twitter and mentioned that his next video will be his 5,000th video, so I don't think he's done for good :) just taking a good much needed rest!
TH-cam has changed a lot since 2012 and as an OG TH-camr I can definitely say I have never felt less secure in my entire life. Your constantly sitting on the edge of your seat, from getting flagged to copywrite strikes, the struggle to have to clickbait just so that your 6 month project doesn't go to waste, not to mention I recently got hacked and had crypto videos running on my channel it took a week to recover my account and after months off TH-cam no fault of my own, who knows if the algorithm will even remember me when I get back.
Yeah, I actually got strikes before just because of anime music, even though the same music was all over the place on here. TH-cam has so many issues in general...and of course TH-cam doesn't give a crap.
13:22 100% All of this situation with age restriction could be solved by just having TH-cam tell us what part of the video triggered the restriction so we can cut it out and solve the issue, I hope they really consider this, it seems like slowly but surely they are being more transparent to us and hopefully we get to a point where all this won't happen again!
It’s absolutely heartbreaking and insane how what was supposed to be a platform where people can share, create, communicate, be part of a great community and ENJOY THEMSELVES, has become a place full of ridiculous problems.
i was thinking it would be a big opportunity for someone to see this and create a new platform and promote the hell out of it as like a new and better alternative and they will be rivals with youtube kinda like pepsi coca cola, iphone samsung
Sadly, this seems like only the tip of the iceberg. Inconsistency and nontransparency are major, MAJOR issues this platform has not been held accountable for, and Creators like Cory may pay the price. Having spent more than a decade creating here, it seems TH-cam will always have something to blame and nothing to change. Here’s hoping this leads to a real, effective dialogue instead of another Rewind-style PR facelift.
Yo bruvv I’m a small content creator, and I make a variety of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a range of other content and I’m still working on quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy!🤠
The problem isn’t TH-cam. The problem is Susan, she doesn’t care about TH-cam. In order for TH-cam to be fixed and brought back to what it once was, we need the original 2 CEOs Chad Hurley and Steve Chen to come back and stop Susan from destroying TH-cam due to Ads, Coppa, Bots, and unnecessary demonetization
I know and copyright strikes claims are fine but it depends on the how copyright protection is on songs like linkin park is very copyright protection but if the owner allows it it’s fine ❤🎉
Those were the gold era of TH-cam. Nobody cares about feeling and making money that much. They just got pussified after 2018 rewind. Now a bunch of corporations with sensitive and easily offended running my boy
Yeah Susan has launched so much automation when if you just get more people in and split their hours so half the office is on at day and the other half in on at night YOU CAN HAVE MORE EFFECTIVE FASTER MORE PRECISE AND MORE RELIABLE Moderation Take the moderation down And ban Susan from launching automation
Happens to me too. Nowadays I feel unsafe with most of my videos that are currently monetized, because it happened so many times, that videos that got MANUALLY reviewed and approved would get demonetized and sometimes even AGE RESTRICTED after a second seemingly random manual review. Sometimes these reviews happen weeks, up to AN ENTIRE YEAR later. I remember one time I uploaded a video. It got manually approved for monetization. Then later it got age restricted, I appealed it, it got approved and the video went green again. AND THEN MONTHS LATER, it got ANOTHER demonetization, only that now I can't appeal it anymore. It hurts 😮💨
We heard that several times already. Someone (Amazon?) needs to make an alternative. At this point TH-cam can do what they want since they are a Monopol. What do we want? Leave?
It's a shithole. One filled to the brim with bullcrap they try to pull on EVERYONE, and when we can practically SEE the foul smell, they tries to burry the hole, only to fall into said hole.
Weird for TH-cam to take such a defensive stance on this, only pushing their most successful creators away. This is how a company destroys itself. If somebody created a better video sharing platform, I would happily follow everyone to it.
@@MegaAce042 Seriously, if they just started posting to Rumble as well as TH-cam, there might be some change. But they won't. Either because they have a deal with YT, or think alternative sites are for the "alt-right". Or both.
One thing I feel like they should change? The "Stop seeing this ad" option. I keep getting spammed with ads I selected that for, and not only do they keep coming but I lose the ability to select it. The icon is just gone, I only get "Why this ad?" So instead of ads I want to see, like I never knew Pokemon Legends Arceus was released until friends said they were playing it, I get Wendy's ads and Evertale, both of which I hate, and even though I have alcohol based ads selected not to be shown I still get ones for them too. I would get a lot less frustrated if they fixed their ad systems.
Ah so at least you not had some the scary ads I have had then! They really need a report ad feature. Or just watch TH-cam at a certain 2am to 5am and the ads are just bad! Scams and extremists I wish I wash joking!
This is my personal biggest issue as a viewer. I'm fine with catering my ads experience with stuff I'm interested in. I can learn of new products I want, that way. But too many of the ads I see are stuff I have consistently marked as something I'm not interested in. No, I don't like makeup, I don't like cars, I'm never joining the military. Where the fuck do they get the idea I'm interested in this stuff? It's like, after I block those sources, I _only get those ads over and over._ It's legitimately making me consider getting an ad blocker. It drives me crazy.
Well they have his on all tvs if you can skip ads by re0orting it will also skip it instantly all the time plus you can report ads on devices idk what you are looking at lmao
But also I should be able to select "stop seeing this ad" without having to fork over more personal information. I don't want TH-cam to cater my ads, I just don't want to see certain ads
Issues with TH-cam so far: -Lack of communication -Relying too much on AI -Not enough human staff -Rules that are excessive -Low maintenance on AI -Refusal to listen to the community/make an effort to improve -Possible Racism -Little to no information or reassurance about what’s going on -Issues with the ‘real’ staff (Please let me know if I missed any in the reply section! :D )
-Silencing good content creators and allowing bad ones to thrive. -Pretending that YTKids is a taboo thing and punishing innocent creators for what kids watch unsupervised. -Ignoring their own community guidelines. -Intentions to integrate NFTs. -The fuckin' over-advertising that's seriously pissing everybody off! *Need I say more on why CEO Susan should be booted for good?*
Age restricting videos because they're deemed to mature for advertisers while running ads that are way more sexual than the videos they're restricting. I have literally seen ads for mobile games that describe themselves in the ads as NSFW. Edit: Also, just got an ad for a mobile game which included a different game's characters. TH-cam should copyright claim these ads.
Jacks videos definitely help with my depression... even if it's just a voice in the background to take my mind off of everything for a lil bit at a time...
@@stevensanchez1192 cory's video has been up for a week. that video has trended across many platforms with COUNTLESS creators talking abt it - you would think that by now atleast a statement of some kind would show up
"to some people this will just sound like complaining" it's a perfectly valid thing to complain about though, this kind of behavior on youtube's part is fully unacceptable
Honestly, a return of the dislike count being publicly viewable would help. It's currently obfuscating information that could help the viewers more easily identify bad content. And the timing of them removing it after the rewind debacle just reads as them being unable to take criticism and feedback and throwing a tantrum.
like literally what could be the reason for taking the dislike button away? i never understood why they did that. if people don't like a video, they don't like it, hiding the stats isn't changing that.
@@coriswrld2122 Big corporations on YT don't want others seeing people disliking their videos or product. What it is is corporate monopolization on free thought. They're trying to limit it and FORCE you to like their product. They DON'T believe in a free market. It's greed
Hey jackey boy, I know what it's like to be stressing about youtube and making a audience happy and the youtube situation, but US subscribers are happy about your content and making us laugh all these years Sean, so thank you for the years friend
Hate speech should not be a reason to punish, penalize, and should not be a reason silence someone in any way. And TH-cam should not determine what hate speech is and what misinformation is. Change My Mind.
It’s honestly wild the amount of porn or “soft” porn that is allowed on TH-cam that does not get flagged or considered at all But genuine wholesome gamers are what TH-cam is worried about??
@@_sp1r4L_ I seen a video of it explaining how you could put a period in the beginning of your search and it’ll show you a bunch of messed up videos. Something to do with the filter not catching. I don’t know. Tons of awful shit on YT that needs removed. But yeah. Let’s get rid of any content creator who swears. As if watching legitimate porn is any worse on here 🙄…
Plus there could be an age warning or something like '16+' or whatever. They're making things so unnecessarily complex and difficult. Would it come to where people go to a different platform other than TH-cam because of this BS?
@@chef2042 that on the parents being braindead and don't act like u don't see all the p0rn bots yt lets run rampant in the comments for all "kids" to see
I always love to see our generations of 11-17 yr olds forgotten. I don’t want to see tits, but I want to watch content appropriate for my age group my guy
I think the idea is that TH-cam Kids is for people who are too young to have an account (under 13, I think?), and the age restriction is supposed to separate stuff suitable for teens from stuff they aren't considered old enough to see. But even if that was the intended purpose, it doesn't seem to be how they're utilizing it.
TH-cam really needs an adults only version and advertisers need to stop shying away from adult oriented channels because at the end of the day, it’s adults who buy their products. Not children. That way there will be no age restriction and no more worry about being demonitized
The same way they have 'kids' content, the same should be done for adult-orientated content. There are advertisers that are definitely willing to cater to adult channels, and honestly, those ads would fit a lot better and make me actually buy lol
@@Alicewatcheseverything No, but they tend to expect minors to show up there. In that case, I wonder why they won't just make a "TH-cam teens" version, seeing as it's illogical to set the necessary age to make an account on TH-cam to 13+. Like you can't seriously believe children 13+ should be on the same site as adults of all ages. Which is proven even more from the massive amount of pedophelia, child exploitation and the endangerment or Sexual exploitation of minors that occurs on TH-cam. They need to decide if they actually want to protect minors or not cause so far, they're doing a horrible job at it (like not kicking the people who are known predators off this site).
or just make age restrictions just only effect who can view it so basically the video will not show up if you don't have a (insert vague age) account you cant access it no problem with ads or fucking TELL THE TH-camR WHAT IS SO TRIGGERING ABOUT THE VIDEO and if TH-cam made a "TH-cam adults" it most certainly wont get nearly any monetization or they will just flat out make it ad-fest. that or make TH-cam kids have actually good content
Damn, It's been almost a month since, jack has posted, hope he's doing ok mentally and physically, just know that we're here for you king. Kind of miss him, he always managed to cheer me up and make my day 1million times better even when I was depressed I'd crack a smile
Honestly, one thing they could do is add a TH-cam employee ID number to the flag saying “hey, this is the person who reviewed it.” They don’t need to include the real name of the person, just a way to find out if someone different or a bot is re-reviewing it. Could also help on TH-cam’s end by allowing them to identify rouge employees who are flagging stuff that doesn’t deserve to be flagged.
TH-cam would never, ever reveal that 90+% of their system is run by algorithms and bots The template emails are super obvious, but youtube wouldn't explicitly say "this is an automated email, you have not reached a human employee yet"
@@dannyramirez3875 Exactly, it's probably the same type of thing as using whiteout on a physical form that's being handed to someone without the same clearance as someone with.
Honestly… TH-cam, Twitch, and all these other Social Media Companies are getting worse and worse by day, especially on Content Creators/Streamers, I feel really bad for those who got disturbed by this, and I’m happy a lot of people are spilling truth about this, after Cory addressed this issue going on, on TH-cam.
thank you for bringing this up it's clear that Jack doesn't have to do all this but he still does, because he remembers old youtube that was based on a sense of community
The fact they claim "we've looked over the content" is always laughable. No, having your algorithm and bots "Checking" content is not looking at it. It comes down to TH-cam just doesn't want to put any effort into making the platform better. It makes money, so long as it does that, they won't care. Which is sad, as all it does is hurt the creators doing their best to play by the rules.
I've been through all of this but to having a mass amount of manual reviewer is not as simple. Over 720,000+ videos are being uploaded everyday. Just really think about it.
@@SuperOGArchives They're a massive company with more than enough money to make this situation better. The problem is, they aren't, and it's causing problems like this to keep getting worse.
@@SuperOGArchives I understand that it might be a lot of videos to look through but that isn't an excuse they need to be accountable for their lack of ability to maintain their own regulation
youtubes entire business model is to cover their ears yelling “LALALALALA” while making changes that no one asked for and ignoring the major changes that actually need to be made
Sounds like the way some people choose to parent ignore the problem hoping it will all go away at some point punishing everyone else who either doesn't agree with them or gets in their way.
The way Sean is dealing with this is very professional and the fact that he's not throwing a hissy fit about it is very admirable, hopefully this can be addressed quickly.
I am going to play devil's advocate here. I really wish Sean and all the other content creators would realize they have no idea how the TH-cam algorithm works and are only upset of situation without providing answers to the problem. THAT ISN'T HELPFUL. I can appreciate their flight without putting my two cents in on the matter. (If that makes sense) we all understand that the algorithm is broken but just because one content creator claims racism is a factor *now we have a problem*. To me it feels like clickbait and wrong. Obviously drawing more attention from creators audiences to the issue isn't fixing the problem. _Because this isn't a new problem._ all this does is make TH-cam PR quell the disaster then pretend like nothing happened until the next news cycle.
I don’t understand why TH-cam feels the need to keep everything so secret from their creators. Why keep them in the dark? Do they think it’ll make them look bad in some way? If that’s the case, then it might be even more pressing to talk about if their trying to sweep their broken system under the rug.
I worked in a corporation before and based on Sean's video, I think it's the same at YT - in my case it was because policies were changing constantly in my department. It felt "reactive" because a problem would come up, we'd change the policy, another problem would come up, we'd change it again, etc. Sean mentioned that the swearing was a big deal and then now it's not because they've worked out how to separate it from hate speech, so that indicates to me that things are always shifting in the background too. As for the communication problems between departments, we'd have that too because it was difficult to inform everyone of everything all at once as we all had our own problems. Not defending YT at all here because there definitely is favoritism and possibly racism happening (as of writing this, Mark's Orc Massage video hasn't been age restricted), but rather I'm stating that this problem in corporations and big companies needs to be resolved - especially as YT is a huge platform with the budget for a problem solving team.
They don't want to make rules and guidelines crystal clear because it gives them a massive amount of wiggle room to do whatever they want on any given day. It is a gross and insanely anti consumer friendly tactic a ton of corporations employ intentionally.
I've never really understood the whole "advertiser friendly" thing. The only ads I've ever seen have been for things that adults would purchase, so why would the video need to be kid friendly? Do advertisers not want to sell airtime during The Sopranos? Breaking Bad? Game of Thrones? Are these not "age restricted" shows?
It's not they care what ads go through on mobile anyways. So many overtly sexual ads that give me second hand embarrassment for whoever decided to let them on the app
They even have ads meant for adults on their children's videos, so it just goes to show that TH-cam makes absolutely no sense in what they deem is "family friendly" or not. 😂😂 I'd say about 1 in every 10 ads on a children's video is actually meant for kids. 😂😂 Edited to remove an unnecessary "and". 😂
This is such a well-articulated response to the whole situation. I'm glad that Sean is talking to YT about the problems and offering solutions, and I'm really grateful to have creators like him that can communicate effectively to their audience. Really great video!
@@breadcrumbs49 ignore him. His address already leaked anyway. Let the other people handle that guy IRL. P.S.: that person with the bots lives in WA (Washington) state. In Coupville.
Honestly, I think removing dislikes is also an issue. Of course some people just hate change and that's their only gripe. But many of us use the ratio to determine if the information given is actually good (think tutorials, diy's, advice, etc). But apart from all that, I think it sort of adds to the feeling most of us viewers have: TH-cam does not care what we want. They just want money. There are other issues that have caused problems for us viewers, like TH-cam Kids. It should not be affecting MY side of the platform. (And it is quite poorly maintained, it seems to be an automatic systems aswell). And, to add creators into it, they can't remove that tag. There are way too many videos I've come across that get snagged by TH-cam Kids that are absolutely NOT child friendly lol Basically, I think they need to at least acknowledge our frustration. Because ignoring adds to the feeling above that they just don't care.
The youtube kids also annoys me so much. Everytime I just want to comment on a random video or add it to a playlist I just cant because it's "its for kids"
I fully agree that there isn't much inter-department communication. I'm not big enough for my own rep, but I do have access to partner chat support, and there has been many instance where I'll fire up chat to ask a specific question, get an answer. Then the next day, hit up chat and ask the exact same question, and get a completely different answer. When it's a question that affects monetization and discoverability, it's important to get a straight answer. But I find I get different answers depending on the person.
removal of dislikes? stricter policies for child suitability, causing majority if not all to suffer? susan being hired? it was way too soon to say its valid buddy, it all started when susan came in (not including the ad skip monetization she implemented)
have u heard about the sex scene in twitch where she got banned for 7 days for showing nudity? 7 days ban only other twitch streamers gets banned permanently
I'm writing this Hoping my feedback gets to TH-cam through you Jack: 1. Get them to at least tell the creators what's wrong with their videos before flagging them. 2. Give creators 12 hours to remove whatever's wrong with the video before removing or striking it down themselves. 3. Make sure to hire manual reviewers that can at least follow the guidelines competently. 4. Make sure to PROPERLY CHECK if a video violates copyright or community guidelines before taking action. So that we don't have cases of channels being deleted, Large streamers like LoFi girl losing her stream over false copyright claims and creators like MxR crying on their channels out of fear that their entire livelihood might get deleted. 5. Make sure your recommended only features ONE video PER CHANNEL. So that there could be more diversity. I don't wanna log out of my Google account and see 7 videos from Mr. Beast and Sniperwolf on there. I want more creators to be featured on the recommended tab. 6. Don't put ad restrictions on a creator's video when he/she calls you out for your BS. It doesn't do you any good.
I can’t even tell you that YT is engaging in authoritarian tactics like those in other countries like Russia and China without them booting my comments.
My love for you has outlasted 2 devices, 3 acounts and almost 8 years of my 15 year old life and I to this day will support as much as I can. We will follow you to the ends of the earth, we all love you and your content.
Hate speech should not be a reason to punish, penalize, and should not be a reason silence someone in any way. And TH-cam should not determine what hate speech is and what misinformation is. Change My Mind.
definitely agree when you said “this seems like a trend that might die off quickly.” us, the viewers who aren’t really affected by these issues, require you guys/the creators to talk about them and keep the traction going and start new conversations about the issue. honestly i wish there was more we could do aside from give youtube’s problem the spotlight (example this vid is #1 trending), thank you for making this follow-up sean! i definitely think it’s all an issue with communication. youtube could do better if they just tried.
i just love how sean's video was "not suitable" for ads, yet the ads i see on this platform are borderline suggestive half the time double standards are insane
@I love you!! SaberSpark actually made a point about those types of Ads in one of his Videos! Even questioning TH-cam how those Ads are ok when they restrict that sort in videos.
As a person who works customer support, I can tell you exactly what is going on with the consecutive manual reviews getting different decisions. The team handling this has only vague standards to follow and a lot of it is left to the interpretation of individual agents. Also the different instances of manual review were being handled by different agents. Some try to stay overly cautious, some are more lenient. And no - no team that works in that field calls a meeting for every case where it's unclear how to interpret the content. If they acted that way, nothing would get done and they would do nothing but have these meetings. The problems arise from the following: 1) Apparently YT has no system in place that would allow agents to see if a manual review was already done - as a result they double or maybe even triple their workload, because videos get manually reviewed multiple times - that's poor organization and a waste of time, in a situation where YT already claims it's impossible to hire enough people to manually review everything. 2) Big youtubers get preferrential treatment. That is a fact. When a small youtuber uploads something even a little leaning toward the boundries of appropriate content, the bots strike the video down. When a big channel does something straight-up inappropriate, the bots don't even touch that, so the worst case scenario is when somebody bothers to manually review the content. This is evidence that the algorythms have exceptions coded in them for some channels. This only increases the inconsistency, and therefore the problem
Ya know I kinda thought this, and it's sad how spot on my guess was. I know this would take years to probably fix but looks like TH-cam needs an overhaul in reorganization and recode on bots
@@mariaarakat8823 I guess I should add that I do not work for YT or Google. But I do know the inside of customer support pretty well. However, the thing that really stuns me about this is the preferential treatment. I mean, how many times did letting things slide by default for big youtubers bite YT in the ass HARD? Call me old, but I still remember the Logan Paul in the Japanese suicide forrest thing and how roayally that screwed over most channels and YT themselves. Yet they learned nothing... and that wasn't the first or last time something like that happened...
Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him. Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, for any reason; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil. I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God.
I appreciate your suggestions, as an influencer you hold a certain responsibility in leadership. As a leader, in nursing I have been taught to advocate by brining attention to the problem and always having 2 solutions. Your communication solution is solid, there needs to be full disclosure between all departments. Each TH-cam rep should have a response from every department and ultimately a solution that was voted on deemed worthy. Nice to know big TH-cam influences, like you care about the growing and coming up influencers, all TH-cam influences should be treated with equality, regardless of status, and all rules should be consistent. As always, love your videos and thank you for being you💜😊
TH-cam has been too comfortable for too long. They expect creators, even massive creators, to just accept their arbitrary, inconsistent, completely opaque policies which affect their livelihoods without question. And it's been this way for the longest time. To this day, they refuse to reinstate the public dislike count despite very valid feedback that this feature could mean the difference between life and death for certain DIY or health related content. They're so complacent and arrogant. The second, the very second, a viable competitor comes up, many creators will be gone and take their fanbases with them. The issue is, they remain convinced that day will never come.
Such as being able to distinguish if the dislikes were due to bad content that shouldn't be allowed to stay on the platform, versus people disliking just because they might disagree with the peronality or attitude of the person delivering the content, like ER Doctor vs Doctor Mike. Edited to say neither has bad content, but do have different personalities.
It's the same way with Twitch. Lack of consistency and transparency with their ToS and moderation. Honestly I give it 5 years or less before YT (and especially Twitch) to fully implode if things don't drastically change soon. These biggest creators/streamers are multi-millionaires and if they banded together they could easily make their own platforms to replace Twitch and YT and the reality is, their audiences will follow because their loyalty is to the people that entertain them, not the corporation that provides the website to click on. Especially not when those corporations are actively hindering the content that entertains us.
As an audience, I know most (if not all) of us stand with creators. We can and will continue clicking, watching, & keep this in the limelight. Fight the power, guys.
Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him. Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, for any reason; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
I'm guessing jack is really preparing for his 5000 video which is insane to thing about and I'm so glad I got to be apart of this amazing journey of his and I cant wait for to hopefully continue for ever!
The fact that Jack continues to use his platform to talk about these issues speaks volumes about the kind of creator he is. Thank you for always seeking accountability, we love you💚
I see a lot of people saying "this is TH-cam's downfall" and honestly, it shouldn't be. It should be catalyst for change. TH-cam has honestly hundreds of thousands of videos uploaded PER DAY on this platform. They cannot get a person to look at all of this stuff that happens. They use poorly functioning bots and an inconsistent algorithm to cover the gaps. What they need to do is fix their systems, improve their communication between departments, upgrade these bots, be consistent with what they do and just be honest with the community. This is NOT that hard to do honestly. Talk, that's it. That's all. Communication, consistency, and honesty. They absolutely have the resources to improve these things, they are not hurting for money. They need to put the resources in to actually do it
Problem is youtube has to not only keep its community happy but also it investors and advertisers. Which almost want the opposite. Community wants pure creativity without censor and the investors want clean content they can put their face on.
And they won’t. If TH-cam knew that their systems were broken, they would’ve fixed it AGES AGO! Being a catalyst for change or no, TH-cam’ chances to turn back the clock are very slim & TH-cam’s chances to turn back the clock have already been used up. They’ve had their chance while they still could, and yet they chose to slack off & ignore all these lingering problems. I highly doubt TH-cam will ever make up for all the damage they’ve caused, because they’ve screwed it up again & again!
Sean, I hope you''re having a good break, for whatever reason you need to take one, we miss you but we understand and hope to watch more of your amazing content soon. My kids and I love watching you together and we always have a blast and laugh so much.
@@romkin1197 protesting and annoying TH-cam enough until they do it. Also we can tell people to stop watching TH-cam which can lower their stock prices and hurt their wallet. Then they'll listen
TH-cam's lack of transparency with why they made these weird, anti-creator decisions is one of the most baffling things about this whole situation. I really hope that this current wave of criticism doesn't slow down or stop like every previous wave
TH-cam really won't change unless it's a "serious problem" according to them. It sucks that youtubers are the ones who are suffering. They are the one who keep people on their platform. TH-cam needs competition according to me. But no one will go against youtube who have already invested billions in their infrastructure.
They got bought by Google and get billions from corporate press. As far as creators are concerned, it's a "what have you done for me recently" situation.
The fact Sean managed to keep calm and get his message across in a professional manner just shows how great he is at handling these types of situations
When Jacksepticeye talked about how making videos doesn't seem as fun due to the restrictions and than goes on 3 week break, I find it a little heartbreaking I hope youtube can fix these problems soon.
@@littlefluffyduckling8380 To be honest it's actually pretty smart. TH-cam benefits a lot financially from popular youtubers and people like Sean make a massive impact if they'd suddenly stop their work. I hope they recognize the issues. We all know they won't, or at least to a minimum and only temporary though.
Jackie, this break really shows how good of a fandom you have accumulated, and it’s all thanks to you! Everyone wishes you well, and i do too. Hope you come back soon(but when you’re ready) with a bang!
i had never heard of this guy, neither had any of my co workers and were on TH-cam quit a bit. I understand he has a lot of subscribers but even still. all of sudden hes on almost ALL of feeds starting yesterday . im wondering why TH-cam would frontpage this. seems kind sus
I know this is a bit of a tangent, but I still think they should bring back the like-dislike ratio bar, because despite the abuse that happens to some channels, that bar is also very good for determining the value of videos pertaining to be informative. It's not good that fake DIY videos, like 5-minute crafts are able to circulate without that clear indicator of false information. It's better to have a ratio that is somewhat reliable than none at all.
there are browser extensions that still let it display, i can see it even now. Whether they'll work forever, I don't know, but at least they're stable now.
Here is another infuriating change that I haven't seen anyone talking about. Probably because so far I have oy experienced in on pc youtube. They are getting rid of the "skip ads" button. Now it is "skip ad" and you have to skip twice, every time a 2 ad pairing pops up. So now instead of waiting for 5 seconds to get to your video you must wait for ten seconds.
TH-cam has actually told me they don't want to tell you what part of your video or content infringes you need to edit out because then "avoid partners from going around our guidelines" in their words.
Manlybadasshero i have been watching you for years my favorite series is mad father i dont like how yt is either being racist or picking favorites because this platform is supposed to be for only entertainment purposes but yt just want the money
Been watching since 2015 and no matter how bad shit would get you were here doing your thing. I'm glad to see that's still the case man I hope youtube doesn't ruin this for you
Hate speech should not be a reason to punish, penalize, and should not be a reason silence someone in any way. And TH-cam should not determine what hate speech is and what misinformation is. Change My Mind.
@Jack Wrath you’ve commented this more than 66 times, please go get a job or hobby. the discussion everyone’s having right now is much more dire and important than “LuL, mY cOnTenT is BeTTeR!1!!1”
I've gotten many false strikes before, ALL appealed and monetized and green-flagged. I was doing a livestream doing what I normally do, except it literally had nothing wrong with it. It was striked and taken down mid livestream. I tried to appeal knowing full well I was no where near breaking guidelines, rejected. Reached out again, appealed again. Rejected. 3rd time was a charm because I knew 100%. I. Did. NOTHING. Wrong. I had to involve other people who do the same content, and use them to help my case. Bring up old false strikes, old videos, full detail of everything. Green-flagged, strike appealed, able to upload. It was the most stupidest strike appeal I have ever had to go through. It took just over 3 days. False warning/Bot striked me 2 humans declined my appeal 1 human appealed
You did the right thing. Handled it in house by involving other people who create the same or similar content. Complaining about it to millions who don't actually get it won't help
Nth proof that algorhythms need to be monitored and the guy the programmer shows it at should know what they are looking at (very unlikely), that people at the YT HQ don't talk to each other and ultimately that some people are more bots than bots.
This happened to me only after a video was uploaded live. Then I appealed and waited a month or so until it fell off. The funny thing is: i don’t have enough subs to even reach monetization. 😂 *wheeze* I also didnt want a dumb ad running in the video for some random copystrike company to earn a profit.
So I did a little digging and I found out that the TH-cam game on was illegal because there was a segment where two of Trevor Henderson creations fight huggy wuggy and the among imposter, so I searched it up and Trevor’s monsters are not copyrighted but the imposter and huggy wuggy are copyrighted so , that’s not good ,also at the end of it I got really Annoyed because the big finally had Bella porch who is mainly a tik-toker and they cut markiplier’s section out, this just brings up another point with TH-cam, marketing toward celebrity’s , a good example is TH-cam rewind 2018 with a a lot of celebs featuring in that. So jack I don’t know if you see this but I just wanted to point this out. Also love your content byeeee
TH-cams issue with greenlighting a video and than flagging it again and again is very big. I had this exact issue happen 4 TIMES for one video and the final time it was flagged, they refused to look at again and re-monetize it.
As someone who had a very knee-jerk reaction to Mark's segment of that event getting cut, I really respect how level-headed and reasonable your responses to these situations are. It brings me back down to reality a bit when it's easy to just boil over and get mad. I'm glad there are creators like you who are acting with the intent to reform TH-cam rather than just railing against it as it's so easy to do.
I get Jack’s reasonings on why people shouldn’t get angry about Mark’s section. I just hate that TH-cam is using Mark’s face to advertise, then cuts him out. It just feels super scummy.
I felt like jack is going way too easy on youtube for that, its scummy and shitty and people have every right to be angry. I understand why jack thinks being nice will fix the problems but really the only way to get a big corporation to change is with thier user base getting mad and voicing their concerns in mass. I feel like jack is a but naive and had a bit too much faith in youtube.
@@swimsvg1855 I get where you're coming from, too, but I think history has shown that mass outrage doesn't get through to TH-cam. Time and time again, people get mad at YT, and nothing changes -- see the Act Man vs Quantum TV situation, for a recent example. People got PISSED, and what happened? Nothing. Quantum is still on the platform. Maybe it's time to try new methods, like how Jack is suggesting bringing forward more actionable solutions instead of just sheer outrage. If big TH-camrs working from the inside gets shit done, then I'm all for it.
I hope you are doing well. TH-cam has looked like it's going to crash and burn for a while now...I can tell you with confidence you are cherished by millions, and your TH-cam channel content will always be in our hearts and memories no matter what happens--Unnus annus taught me that. With much love and a bit of luck, Sam.
Sean isn’t just a great creator, he’s a good leader. He knows that his platform is MASSIVE, and he uses that to help his “coworkers”/fellow creators. He knows that good communication and having manners will create a space where rules can be made, kept, and respected while still upholding the space that these creators have to express themselves. Yes, the issue is frustrating. However, the only way to make a real difference is to clearly articulate your needs as well as possible solutions. As a Communications Major, I have a new level of respect for Sean in this way.
There is one major issue with this conclusion as it pertains to this particular situation however - It requires a mega corporation to actually care. And that literally never has been the case in the history of mega corporations. They do not give a damn about a soul. They only thing they care about is their profit. That's it. Please themselves and their stakeholders. Everyone else? PAH. They can go F themselves. And they know it is good for perception and business if they can at least gain the majority's perspective being that they're "listening" and "will look into potential fixes to the issues that are most prevalent and pressing to their clients & customers". That aspect is just marketing. It's a part of maintain just enough loyalty/trust that they can continue to not give a damn, make no changes, or the rare instances they do, ones that make no sense at all, which is the case most often with Google via TH-cam, so that their overall profits at least stay the same, if not increase, while they lose minimal or no customers and clients whatsoever. For TH-cam, the clients would be creators, the customers the viewers. History then shows this to be exactly how Google operates TH-cam. It's akin to the false notion some of these big creators have like Sean showed here - "They really do care about their creators" - What he fails to recognize, is that it is not them they care for, it is the traffic they generate for the company to the website, and thus the views and clicks they then generate, which then is how they make their profit. And when viewers actually interact with ads, they of course get a cut of profit themselves from that as well. So again, it is not the creators themselves they care about, it's just the traffic, clicks & views they drive, thus the profit that then generates for them. And it's recurring profits - a self-fulfilling cycle of it, too. And they don't have to do anything to make it. It's the creators doing it all for them. The creators keep the masses returning for more, which then, is almost guaranteed they'll continue to view more videos both from the same creator and others as well. And it happens each time they open a video from their largest creators. It's inevitable. So it makes perfect sense for them as it guarantees profit. Thus just BARELY clinging and keeping these massive creators on their platform - doing JUST good enough to do so - is all they'll ever be willing to do. As again, it's only about the profit they make them. That's it. Not the creators themselves. So in the end, that's the issue here with your perspective. It requires the corporation to actually care about it's customers and it's clients. But... to think Google does this is entirely delusional. The proof has always been right in front of us the entire time. It still is. Hell, it always will be. Now if you apply that perspectives of yours to that of a smaller company, then you have a higher chance of it being true for them. The smaller the company is, the more likely that is to be their core focus and values, thus the more likely it is your perspective will be true for them.
"TH-cam doesn't want it's creators to fail." They sure have a funny way of showing it. They actively go out of their way to impede a lot of creators I follow when they try to fight false copyright claims. I have personally seen the emails of TH-cam outright denying to send counter claims to the claimants because the channel did not prove fair use or that they owned the content in question. And I have personally seen channels GO DOWN because of this crap from TH-cam. Tbh I absolutely hate TH-cam The company, and they have no reason to improve because they're the only kid on the block. We need a genuine competitor to force TH-cam to actually make meaningful changes in favor of EVERY creator BIG or SMALL.
The sad thing is that if a genuine YT competitor gets extremely large themselves, they may start having the same problems as YT itself. Companies that get too big are bound to have a lot of issues that won't get resolved if it doesn't impact their revenue.
FINALLY an almost accidentally coordinated effort to bring this up. It's been years that I've heard all of these issues sporadically from everyone that uploads regularly. I grew up with youtube, I've been watching TH-cam videos since 2006. After the handoff to Google everything went downhill with the unexplained censorship (i think censorship can be necessary and good for respect of others, but not explaining why something is flagged or taken down is inexcusable). Everything being hidden behind curtains to cover up what a mess all the departments are has been getting worse and worse and it's just terrible. It isn't easy to run and upkeep this kind of massive platform and anyone who tries to make a video-hosting website will learn quick why there is such a high turnover rate in video reviewing and moderation departments (the "creepy side" of youtube is NOTHING compared to what doesn't make it up thanks to the manual reviewing departments assisted by the algorithm). However the mess that happens with videos that DO get through but then gets caught in the middle is so exhausting and I just want them to be honest with what struggles they're having so that creators can work WITH them rather than the departments and creators all fighting each other passive-aggressively.
They don’t call it CommieTube for nothing. They’ve been muzzling people like me for pointing out the KGB-like tactics they’ve been engaging in. All of this is happening because of politics. It’s been happening to me constantly; there’s certain political content I can’t talk about without CommieTube intervening.
Nah fuck that. Censorship with the intent to "respect others" is bullshit. Everyone should and can receive criticism no matter what type of person they are. If you're (not you btw) that overly sensitive don't even come on the Internet.
They don’t call it CommieTube now for nothing. This is happening because of politics. They are engaging in tactics like those of more authoritarian eastern nations that have the opposite views of government than we do.
And no one mentions The Act Man. He did a video that technically "exposed" how abusable the system is and how they fall short on many of their own rules. It really did look bad for TH-cam, and what did they do? They demonitized his channel, banished him to oblivion, and and made him delete the video. It's clear that they did that to him because of what he's done. It looked damaging towards their image. The Act Man is the most real case that no one talks about. Now he's really scared of saying anything.
@@OfficialIfunny I think it used to say page, but maybe the comment itself got report for spam to automatically delete them so changed it to "paige" to bypass. It's just a theory.
Hey Jack I’m sorry how much this problem is affecting many TH-camrs. But your concerns about it are definitely true TH-cam’s safety as this point has really taken a turn on becoming extremely predictable. And the fact that they are doing nothing about it at all just makes the situation completely worse. So Jack I hope you are still safe from all this and remember we are still here to support you. Honestly this just goes to show that TH-cam’s generation today just seems to all over the place.
They don’t call it CommieTube now for nothing. They’ve been muzzling people like me for pointing out the KGB-like tactics they’ve been engaging in. All of this is happening because of politics. It’s been happening to me constantly; there’s certain political content I can’t talk about without CommieTube intervening.
Thank you so much for speaking up, and even more for addressing the issues without any malice. At the end of the day we want the space to be better so we can all use it
I miss when creators were actually allowed to be themselves and didn’t have to be extremely cautious when uploading a video. I feel like TH-cam is stealing their personalities.
I agree the age restrictions, monetization and demonetization, copyright systems need to be fixed. I want to monetize my videos but I don’t want to take the risk of TH-cam interfering with my videos even though I swore like two times or showed a little bit of gore (keyword is “little bit”) in my videos and stuff
Lemme summarize the whole thing for you: "Manually" reviewed, meaning, ain't nobody actually manually reviewing ANYTHING. It's all done by bots unless you make an absolute mess, something big enough to get their attention on twitter or on youtube itself, that's it, no mystery, no complexity, only deception and people who are innocent enough to believe the whole thing isn't being handle by bots.
I guarantee at least some of is in some way manually reviewed, I used to do so. Now I have no idea the specifics of how or why we had to review what we did, but there are manual review processes in places for sure.
Ive heard from people that its not a bot but its a clip sent to their people. TH-cam doesnt force their workers to sit down and watch a 2 hr long video when theres only 30 seconds of it thats being brought into question. Which is understandable because thats ineffecient as all hell and youtube is already really damn slow with some stuff. Just imagine it like when you look up something on google and it gives you the "start of suggested clip" option for the video instead of forcing you to watch the whole video. Thats what the manual reviewers get, a short clip taken out of context then they get asked wether the video should be demonetized or simply waved by and given the all clear.
Coming from a person who works as a Quality Assurance Analyst: What this sounds like to me is that there is an issue with TH-cam Quality Assurance team. It sounds like they have an AI program that will automatically flag a video based off key components within the images or the words spoken. When it is appealed, it will get sent to a QA who then has to manually review the video based off TH-cam's standards and either green, yellow, or red light it based off its content. After the video is uploaded, its then subjugated to further AI monitoring along with the public's reports. This is the danger when it comes to having AI in QA as it can misinterpret content, be a generally harsher evaluator based off standards, or not be updated with TH-cam's updated QA policies. Even if it is more than 1 physical QA manually reviewing the video when in this process, because the different QA too can have differing opinions on the subject matter based off policies and guidelines.
I don't know if my comment will help at all on this sort of matter as well, but I do know for smaller youtubers like Asprey Archived, they're being flagged for songs that isn't SUPPOSED to be claimed like 'Love Sign Master Spark' which is "owned" but free used by ZUN but some stranger claimed just because there was no "owner". Even Vinny, a youtuber, who made their OWN SONG, got claimed for THEIR OWN SONG and I feel like it should be REALLY talked about
@@ObeliskDemon That is a possibility. I work for a 3rd-party contractor, so we have to adhere to the same policies and guidelines as the client, as well as the contracting company's policies. Any violation of either of these policies typically results in fines charged to the contractor, so the contractor can often times be stricter than the client, which could be the cause of the green light to yellow light scenario.
@@austinwells243 I worked in a vendor site as an ad integrity specialist (reviewing ads before they hit the platform for a different site). the competitors that did the same job did with a very laissez-faire attitude (their quality was 30% where as we were at around 95%, this being judge as correct/checked campaigns. we charged appropriately more too) and so I can believe youtube has the same issue with their vendor sites
Hey Sean! I hope you're doing okay and even though I'm late i do hope we can make effective change in TH-cam's systems. Thank you for speaking up on this subject.
So with Ethan's 10 year anniversary (this is according to his Twitter). He uploaded it and it was flagged as inappropriate 8 minutes later, and said it was manually checked, despite being 2 HOURS LONG, which physically couldn't have been checked all the way through in that time. This means one of a few options. The first is the flagger saw something fairly bad in the first few minutes and just flagged it. The 2nd more likely option that might fit for your case is that it *wasn't actually manually flagged.* It's not unreasonable the same system keeps checking the same person and then changed its result based on some random variable or just skips 'previously checked' segments, resulting in false positives. Either way it's a weird occurrence that stands out in the light of this and makes it feel like people actually aren't even checking anything anymore.
for one, means its being managed by people that is only working for themselves and not for the community for other, means they arent caring enough to be clear of the system and leaving to automatic response either way, its just bad rep that would need to be solved internally first so the rest to fall in the right place
I've had a video uploaded awhile back which got striked within minutes of posting it. The funny thing is that I know it wasn't reviewed by a person, seeing as the video was flagged within the first few minutes and there wasn't anything in it copyrighted or breaking the guidelines and said video was longer then 10 mins. I've since not bothered uploading anything after that: Why bother trying to post videos if they're not even going to review it themselves but instead rely on an algorithm/system that's already incredibly flawed.
TH-cam needs a "board of creators" who are actually large content creators who actually know what it's like to create videos and be a part of the community, but they also work at TH-cam and can help the company make the best possible desicions for creators as well as viewers with their unique perspective
Issue there is if they are only large creators then many will have been in it for years and can no longer really speak about how it is effecting newer creators. So better a rotating board of users chosen at semi random for a monthly discussion about changes and issues. Grab old established channels and newer ones.
@@spartanonxy Honestly, compared to the current status quo, I still feel it would be an improvement over the current system. TH-cam's own employees don't seem to understand how to run a youtube channel. At least big creators would bring some perspective. It's like when you see games and ask, "Did the developers even play this themselves?" and then taking feedback from large streamers. Sure, it's not the grassroots audience, but it's better than nothing.
I see a lot of comments still just making up all kinds of stuff as an excise to just be mad at youtube, which again doesnt help the problems.
Im all for fighting back when it’s needed but just making stuff up to be mad doesnt solve anything. They wont listen then.
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I just clicked this video
youtube is soon gonna burn and gonna die out soon if this keeps happening
Akright
Ey just saw the video
It's strangely heartwarming that you can tell Sean is angry about the problems in this system, but you can also see the love and care that he has for the community and the system in general.
@Jack Wrath HUGE L
@@blacksheep7910 don’t reply
@@twister107 it doesnt matter if you dont reply, they will never stop
The replies alone shows some bad things about both the community and the system.
@@Caitlyngrin Don't reply to bots/spammers, your engagement just encourages them. Report their comments instead.
I remember when Susan said "TH-cam can only succeed, if it's creators succeed". I think the higher-ups at TH-cam and Google have forgotten that motto.
They've already succeeded and don't necessarily need to keep us happy it seems
Forgotten or just stopped giving a shit. Sure the content creators are their bread and butter but advertisers and investors bring in even more revenue...when money talks, bullshit walks.
indeed, theres no need for more word then this
I doubt this will get read, but their lack of transparency exists for a couple reasons. The first is plausible deniability to protect themselves legally. Much like most things legally, they give themselves a lot of grey area to wiggle within, so they’re never necessarily guilty or not guilty of certain actions or inactions. The second is to prevent anyone from actually figuring out the algorithms, so they can’t be exploited. TH-cam, fb, and all the other platforms do this. Heck, the government does this, which is why most Americans unknowingly break 17 laws a day lol. Keeping the lack of transparency will keep them in power over customers and creators. The only way they will change is with platform competition. But I guarantee you youtube and other social media are receiving government subsidies and funding, which keeps them at the top and prevents any meaningful competition. Zuckerberg already said they worked with the FBI on Rogan’s podcast. They don’t do that for free. They get stuff in return for cooperation. When a government favors companies, that secures their spot at the top.
They've also forgotten "Broadcast Yourself" and "Don't Be Evil." It's a capitalistic and predatory environment now that rewards the wrong things, and punishes the wrong things.
I think the record ping-pong I had on a video was
- green by bots
- yellow by bots
- green by manual review
- age-gated by manual review
- restored to green by manual review
I don't mind things that are on the edge of "inapproperiate" to get demonetized or gated when it crosses a line. But it's so inconsistent that the "line" just feels random at times
i think possibly there is a bit of missing communication (that or opinions on the matter) about what is acceptable, but keep up your good work you are very entertaining.
that’s crazy - must make people who make a living off of TH-cam feel so vulnerable on the platform :/
Let’s hope that someone will see all the videos coming out and bring about some change in the way TH-cam functions. Wishing you the best Click 👍
CLICKYYYY
Exactly! I think many of us know a video like my eye tracker is pushing things but other stuff getting flagged when its far more innocent makes it feel very RNG
I'm glad Sean is taking a nice juicy break! You deserve it dude.
He is still active on Twitter and mentioned that his next video will be his 5,000th video, so I don't think he's done for good :) just taking a good much needed rest!
TH-cam has changed a lot since 2012 and as an OG TH-camr I can definitely say I have never felt less secure in my entire life. Your constantly sitting on the edge of your seat, from getting flagged to copywrite strikes, the struggle to have to clickbait just so that your 6 month project doesn't go to waste, not to mention I recently got hacked and had crypto videos running on my channel it took a week to recover my account and after months off TH-cam no fault of my own, who knows if the algorithm will even remember me when I get back.
hello there
@Kavetion are you going to ask for more subs??
Big oof
Yeah, I actually got strikes before just because of anime music, even though the same music was all over the place on here. TH-cam has so many issues in general...and of course TH-cam doesn't give a crap.
@@DanY-mj4gl general Kenobi
13:22 100% All of this situation with age restriction could be solved by just having TH-cam tell us what part of the video triggered the restriction so we can cut it out and solve the issue, I hope they really consider this, it seems like slowly but surely they are being more transparent to us and hopefully we get to a point where all this won't happen again!
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
I'm better than jacksepticeye
Salut Rafa
@@cosmic3393 yknow what, atleast its a funny bot/spammer lol
It’s absolutely heartbreaking and insane how what was supposed to be a platform where people can share, create, communicate, be part of a great community and ENJOY THEMSELVES, has become a place full of ridiculous problems.
Comment thief.
And this is exactly my point: Now TH-cam is full of comment bots and people who steal comments for likes.
This is youtube at its worst
Well… all I got to say is… thunderbirds are go!
And also screw yt
i was thinking it would be a big opportunity for someone to see this and create a new platform and promote the hell out of it as like a new and better alternative and they will be rivals with youtube kinda like pepsi coca cola, iphone samsung
Copy and pasted from another comment 😐
Man it's been 3 weeks, I hope Jack is doing well.
dw check his tiktok he’s all good 😂
He quit ?
Same. Today I've been sain' that.
@@elizabethmckenzie3373 WHAT
@@elizabethmckenzie3373 no?? unless you can link a source where Jack DIRECTLY says it, then no.
I love that Sean and other big TH-camrs aren’t afraid to address these issues! Love y’a Jack! Keep being true to yourself
@YeaMan you mean page? spammers can’t even spell smh
@CLOAKED Pathetic.
It’s Jack
@@braydenmbve545 omfg it's both
@YeaMan 😐
Sadly, this seems like only the tip of the iceberg. Inconsistency and nontransparency are major, MAJOR issues this platform has not been held accountable for, and Creators like Cory may pay the price.
Having spent more than a decade creating here, it seems TH-cam will always have something to blame and nothing to change. Here’s hoping this leads to a real, effective dialogue instead of another Rewind-style PR facelift.
thanks for talking about this been watching ever since your slenderman and fnaf videos
care not, i do. for a niɡger you are.
Just think, the PR manager went to Princeton and is riding around in a nice car while your slaving away at a 9-5.
Yo bruvv I’m a small content creator, and I make a variety of entertaining reactions, vlogs, and a range of other content and I’m still working on quality but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy!🤠
@Kavetion he's dead
So as your parents at 3/18. Remember the date. We know where you live. We will make is as none painful as possible 🙃🙃🙃
Jack: "TH-cam has issues"
Soldier: "Dear God..."
Jack: "There's more"
Soldier: "NO...!"
Ayyyy
Jack: It contains Age restriction
What?
@@sfoliver *Dear god...*
Peak comedy right here, no question lmao
The problem isn’t TH-cam.
The problem is Susan, she doesn’t care about TH-cam. In order for TH-cam to be fixed and brought back to what it once was, we need the original 2 CEOs Chad Hurley and Steve Chen to come back and stop Susan from destroying TH-cam due to Ads, Coppa, Bots, and unnecessary demonetization
Yeah ❤🎉 😢
I know and copyright strikes claims are fine but it depends on the how copyright protection is on songs like linkin park is very copyright protection but if the owner allows it it’s fine ❤🎉
Those were the gold era of TH-cam. Nobody cares about feeling and making money that much. They just got pussified after 2018 rewind. Now a bunch of corporations with sensitive and easily offended running my boy
And not to mention the fact she ran away like a coward when she was found out...
Yeah Susan has launched so much automation when if you just get more people in and split their hours so half the office is on at day and the other half in on at night
YOU CAN HAVE MORE EFFECTIVE
FASTER
MORE PRECISE
AND MORE RELIABLE
Moderation
Take the moderation down
And ban Susan from launching automation
Happens to me too. Nowadays I feel unsafe with most of my videos that are currently monetized, because it happened so many times, that videos that got MANUALLY reviewed and approved would get demonetized and sometimes even AGE RESTRICTED after a second seemingly random manual review. Sometimes these reviews happen weeks, up to AN ENTIRE YEAR later.
I remember one time I uploaded a video. It got manually approved for monetization. Then later it got age restricted, I appealed it, it got approved and the video went green again. AND THEN MONTHS LATER, it got ANOTHER demonetization, only that now I can't appeal it anymore.
It hurts 😮💨
Damn dude.
Don't worry bro I hope it all works out. Babushka and we all are with you
utoop
Oke 🌭
Thanks for speakin up radal
Hello, sosig man
TH-cam is literally digging themselves a hole and when people start to find out what they’re doing, they try to act like they didn’t dig the hole
We heard that several times already. Someone (Amazon?) needs to make an alternative.
At this point TH-cam can do what they want since they are a Monopol. What do we want? Leave?
@UCWq6YyeqYHMDWl2j4CIhWYg go away with that awful pic and username
theyre digging a hole and when people found they were digging the hole they started to fill it, while they were still in the hole
It's a shithole. One filled to the brim with bullcrap they try to pull on EVERYONE, and when we can practically SEE the foul smell, they tries to burry the hole, only to fall into said hole.
Well what people going to do? Leave an go to Vimeo?
Glad to see jack is still around. Loved his videos when I was a kid & it feels like I’m seeing an old friend watching him now
Weird for TH-cam to take such a defensive stance on this, only pushing their most successful creators away. This is how a company destroys itself. If somebody created a better video sharing platform, I would happily follow everyone to it.
The problem is we have contenders to the crown but they’re being suppressed by Google.
google owns youtube, it will live
@@samquinn4095 aren't the owners of Google and TH-cam married I can't remember
Rumble and Odysee Exist. Those are the closest things we have to a TH-cam competitor
@@MegaAce042 Seriously, if they just started posting to Rumble as well as TH-cam, there might be some change.
But they won't. Either because they have a deal with YT, or think alternative sites are for the "alt-right". Or both.
One thing I feel like they should change? The "Stop seeing this ad" option. I keep getting spammed with ads I selected that for, and not only do they keep coming but I lose the ability to select it. The icon is just gone, I only get "Why this ad?" So instead of ads I want to see, like I never knew Pokemon Legends Arceus was released until friends said they were playing it, I get Wendy's ads and Evertale, both of which I hate, and even though I have alcohol based ads selected not to be shown I still get ones for them too. I would get a lot less frustrated if they fixed their ad systems.
Ah so at least you not had some the scary ads I have had then! They really need a report ad feature.
Or just watch TH-cam at a certain 2am to 5am and the ads are just bad! Scams and extremists I wish I wash joking!
This is my personal biggest issue as a viewer. I'm fine with catering my ads experience with stuff I'm interested in. I can learn of new products I want, that way.
But too many of the ads I see are stuff I have consistently marked as something I'm not interested in. No, I don't like makeup, I don't like cars, I'm never joining the military. Where the fuck do they get the idea I'm interested in this stuff? It's like, after I block those sources, I _only get those ads over and over._ It's legitimately making me consider getting an ad blocker. It drives me crazy.
@@bluelfsuma literally!!!! Feels like the “stop seeing the ad” button is more of a “only see this ad button”
Well they have his on all tvs if you can skip ads by re0orting it will also skip it instantly all the time plus you can report ads on devices idk what you are looking at lmao
But also I should be able to select "stop seeing this ad" without having to fork over more personal information. I don't want TH-cam to cater my ads, I just don't want to see certain ads
Issues with TH-cam so far:
-Lack of communication
-Relying too much on AI
-Not enough human staff
-Rules that are excessive
-Low maintenance on AI
-Refusal to listen to the community/make an effort to improve
-Possible Racism
-Little to no information or reassurance about what’s going on
-Issues with the ‘real’ staff
(Please let me know if I missed any in the reply section! :D )
-Silencing good content creators and allowing bad ones to thrive.
-Pretending that YTKids is a taboo thing and punishing innocent creators for what kids watch unsupervised.
-Ignoring their own community guidelines.
-Intentions to integrate NFTs.
-The fuckin' over-advertising that's seriously pissing everybody off!
*Need I say more on why CEO Susan should be booted for good?*
Too many bots
- Allowing TH-camrs that have commited actual felonies to stay in the platform.
- Not improving the algorithm system.
Copyright claims that only benefit the person making the claim
Age restricting videos because they're deemed to mature for advertisers while running ads that are way more sexual than the videos they're restricting.
I have literally seen ads for mobile games that describe themselves in the ads as NSFW.
Edit: Also, just got an ad for a mobile game which included a different game's characters. TH-cam should copyright claim these ads.
Jacks videos definitely help with my depression... even if it's just a voice in the background to take my mind off of everything for a lil bit at a time...
The fact that this is number 1 trending on TH-cam and we’ve heard nothing from Susan or her broken system really speaks volumes
@Bruh Bruhhu dis ?
@@TheSmokeHouseInc dis a bot
@@Lalondeist no wonder seeing the same comment every where
I mean it's been only 12 hours. My psychologist takes a long time to get shit done for me and this is the CEO of TH-cam we're talking about.
@@stevensanchez1192 cory's video has been up for a week. that video has trended across many platforms with COUNTLESS creators talking abt it - you would think that by now atleast a statement of some kind would show up
"to some people this will just sound like complaining"
it's a perfectly valid thing to complain about though, this kind of behavior on youtube's part is fully unacceptable
Then get off
youtube kids exist idk why theyre tryna push normal youtube that way
I appericate that lgbt creators like Jack are finally coming out of the closet.
@@Zombina638 how dare people give constructive criticism! Apparently leaving will fix the issue!
@@KermitOnAMopedlie, I've been on bost and TH-cam is way better, no more elsagate and some worth watching content. But your point still stands imo
Honestly, a return of the dislike count being publicly viewable would help. It's currently obfuscating information that could help the viewers more easily identify bad content. And the timing of them removing it after the rewind debacle just reads as them being unable to take criticism and feedback and throwing a tantrum.
They're a bunch of losers
like literally what could be the reason for taking the dislike button away? i never understood why they did that. if people don't like a video, they don't like it, hiding the stats isn't changing that.
@@coriswrld2122 Big corporations on YT don't want others seeing people disliking their videos or product. What it is is corporate monopolization on free thought. They're trying to limit it and FORCE you to like their product. They DON'T believe in a free market. It's greed
I feel like people report stuff as a way to leave a dislike these days. It’s a system that can be easily manipulated
@@coriswrld2122 protecting big corporations that often got dislike bombed because of shit changes or generally shitty products/services
Hey jackey boy, I know what it's like to be stressing about youtube and making a audience happy and the youtube situation, but US subscribers are happy about your content and making us laugh all these years Sean, so thank you for the years friend
Hate speech should not be a reason to punish, penalize, and should not be a reason silence someone in any way. And TH-cam should not determine what hate speech is and what misinformation is. Change My Mind.
It’s honestly wild the amount of porn or “soft” porn that is allowed on TH-cam that does not get flagged or considered at all
But genuine wholesome gamers are what TH-cam is worried about??
You can even find ꋪꋬꉣꏂ videos in TH-cam if you dig in really deep.
Saw full body nudity yoga at some point and a man using his forskin like that paper folding thing people do
Pocket fm ads
@@_sp1r4L_ I seen a video of it explaining how you could put a period in the beginning of your search and it’ll show you a bunch of messed up videos. Something to do with the filter not catching. I don’t know. Tons of awful shit on YT that needs removed. But yeah. Let’s get rid of any content creator who swears. As if watching legitimate porn is any worse on here 🙄…
Yep, you can get audio related porn too, not flagged or taken down whatsoever. It’s unbelievable.
"We age restricted this because kids."
-TH-cam ignoring that they HAVE "TH-cam KIDS" for... kids.
Well, yes but actually no. Parents don’t always monitor what their kids watch.
Plus there could be an age warning or something like '16+' or whatever. They're making things so unnecessarily complex and difficult. Would it come to where people go to a different platform other than TH-cam because of this BS?
@@chef2042 that on the parents being braindead and don't act like u don't see all the p0rn bots yt lets run rampant in the comments for all "kids" to see
I always love to see our generations of 11-17 yr olds forgotten. I don’t want to see tits, but I want to watch content appropriate for my age group my guy
I think the idea is that TH-cam Kids is for people who are too young to have an account (under 13, I think?), and the age restriction is supposed to separate stuff suitable for teens from stuff they aren't considered old enough to see. But even if that was the intended purpose, it doesn't seem to be how they're utilizing it.
TH-cam really needs an adults only version and advertisers need to stop shying away from adult oriented channels because at the end of the day, it’s adults who buy their products. Not children. That way there will be no age restriction and no more worry about being demonitized
The same way they have 'kids' content, the same should be done for adult-orientated content. There are advertisers that are definitely willing to cater to adult channels, and honestly, those ads would fit a lot better and make me actually buy lol
Exactly! I'm so sick of the age restrictions! Not everyone watching are minors.
100% this.
@@Alicewatcheseverything No, but they tend to expect minors to show up there. In that case, I wonder why they won't just make a "TH-cam teens" version, seeing as it's illogical to set the necessary age to make an account on TH-cam to 13+. Like you can't seriously believe children 13+ should be on the same site as adults of all ages. Which is proven even more from the massive amount of pedophelia, child exploitation and the endangerment or Sexual exploitation of minors that occurs on TH-cam.
They need to decide if they actually want to protect minors or not cause so far, they're doing a horrible job at it (like not kicking the people who are known predators off this site).
or just make age restrictions just only effect who can view it so basically the video will not show up if you don't have a (insert vague age) account you cant access it no problem with ads or fucking TELL THE TH-camR WHAT IS SO TRIGGERING ABOUT THE VIDEO and if TH-cam made a "TH-cam adults" it most certainly wont get nearly any monetization or they will just flat out make it ad-fest. that or make TH-cam kids have actually good content
Damn, It's been almost a month since, jack has posted, hope he's doing ok mentally and physically, just know that we're here for you king. Kind of miss him, he always managed to cheer me up and make my day 1million times better even when I was depressed I'd crack a smile
Calm down, he was preparing
Honestly, one thing they could do is add a TH-cam employee ID number to the flag saying “hey, this is the person who reviewed it.” They don’t need to include the real name of the person, just a way to find out if someone different or a bot is re-reviewing it. Could also help on TH-cam’s end by allowing them to identify rouge employees who are flagging stuff that doesn’t deserve to be flagged.
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
TH-cam would never, ever reveal that 90+% of their system is run by algorithms and bots
The template emails are super obvious, but youtube wouldn't explicitly say "this is an automated email, you have not reached a human employee yet"
There's no way they don't do this already... They just don't share that information with users/creators
@Jack Wrath go back to school kid
@@dannyramirez3875 Exactly, it's probably the same type of thing as using whiteout on a physical form that's being handed to someone without the same clearance as someone with.
TH-cam really has gone downhill since the get-go. Shame to see TH-cam going down the way it is. I truly do hope they fix it.
Why don’t anyone realize this is Google’s fault too, since they own TH-cam.
TH-cam went downhill since 2017
They won’t.
@@Harveywilliamstffan 2015
@go to my home page for a sub No, fuck off, you moronic bot
Honestly… TH-cam, Twitch, and all these other Social Media Companies are getting worse and worse by day, especially on Content Creators/Streamers, I feel really bad for those who got disturbed by this, and I’m happy a lot of people are spilling truth about this, after Cory addressed this issue going on, on TH-cam.
^ this is another reason why
Well now that we got lgbt creators like Jack coming out of the closet maybe we can make some change.
@@Damitsall Jack who ?
@@Damitsall what does the lgbt have anything to do with this
Not to mention
The
BOTS
thank you for bringing this up
it's clear that Jack doesn't have to do all this but he still does, because he remembers old youtube that was based on a sense of community
The fact they claim "we've looked over the content" is always laughable.
No, having your algorithm and bots "Checking" content is not looking at it. It comes down to TH-cam just doesn't want to put any effort into making the platform better. It makes money, so long as it does that, they won't care. Which is sad, as all it does is hurt the creators doing their best to play by the rules.
IM BETTER THAN JACKSEPTICEYE
I've been through all of this but to having a mass amount of manual reviewer is not as simple. Over 720,000+ videos are being uploaded everyday. Just really think about it.
@@cosmic3393 I would rather watch a constipated dog try to take a shit in the Sahara desert, than anything you could possibly release.
@@SuperOGArchives They're a massive company with more than enough money to make this situation better. The problem is, they aren't, and it's causing problems like this to keep getting worse.
@@SuperOGArchives I understand that it might be a lot of videos to look through but that isn't an excuse they need to be accountable for their lack of ability to maintain their own regulation
This is such a well-articulated response to the whole situation
Watch Business Casuals video about yt not sticking to their 3 strickes policy and lawsuit against them!
well-articulated it is not. crying a little, he is. must say niɡger in next video to redeem himself now. waiting, i will be.
cool
Thumbs up..
Thumbs up
youtubes entire business model is to cover their ears yelling “LALALALALA” while making changes that no one asked for and ignoring the major changes that actually need to be made
As a result total damage to the Creator and way harm the Creator than good.
so true bestie
Sounds like the way some people choose to parent ignore the problem hoping it will all go away at some point punishing everyone else who either doesn't agree with them or gets in their way.
I bet they’d listen if a late night show host was having the same problems
sounds a bit like roblox
Literally no reason to go on TH-cam without Sean’s content. Miss you homie ❤
The way Sean is dealing with this is very professional and the fact that he's not throwing a hissy fit about it is very admirable, hopefully this can be addressed quickly.
Sean and Cory being chads as always
@@Mr.Anonymous342 bot ^
I am going to play devil's advocate here. I really wish Sean and all the other content creators would realize they have no idea how the TH-cam algorithm works and are only upset of situation without providing answers to the problem. THAT ISN'T HELPFUL. I can appreciate their flight without putting my two cents in on the matter. (If that makes sense) we all understand that the algorithm is broken but just because one content creator claims racism is a factor *now we have a problem*. To me it feels like clickbait and wrong. Obviously drawing more attention from creators audiences to the issue isn't fixing the problem. _Because this isn't a new problem._ all this does is make TH-cam PR quell the disaster then pretend like nothing happened until the next news cycle.
@@Battlefox64_RL sorry don’t agree with this. TH-cam should be more transparent with their creators.
@@AB-oh2nf what? Bruh you telling me I'm a bot or there was a bot above me?
I don’t understand why TH-cam feels the need to keep everything so secret from their creators. Why keep them in the dark? Do they think it’ll make them look bad in some way? If that’s the case, then it might be even more pressing to talk about if their trying to sweep their broken system under the rug.
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
I worked in a corporation before and based on Sean's video, I think it's the same at YT - in my case it was because policies were changing constantly in my department. It felt "reactive" because a problem would come up, we'd change the policy, another problem would come up, we'd change it again, etc. Sean mentioned that the swearing was a big deal and then now it's not because they've worked out how to separate it from hate speech, so that indicates to me that things are always shifting in the background too. As for the communication problems between departments, we'd have that too because it was difficult to inform everyone of everything all at once as we all had our own problems. Not defending YT at all here because there definitely is favoritism and possibly racism happening (as of writing this, Mark's Orc Massage video hasn't been age restricted), but rather I'm stating that this problem in corporations and big companies needs to be resolved - especially as YT is a huge platform with the budget for a problem solving team.
They don't want to make rules and guidelines crystal clear because it gives them a massive amount of wiggle room to do whatever they want on any given day. It is a gross and insanely anti consumer friendly tactic a ton of corporations employ intentionally.
i thinks it's because if the creators know everything that will get restricted then they could very easily game the system
anti-woke people have been shouting this for years. Im glad more people are starting to wake up.
I've never really understood the whole "advertiser friendly" thing. The only ads I've ever seen have been for things that adults would purchase, so why would the video need to be kid friendly? Do advertisers not want to sell airtime during The Sopranos? Breaking Bad? Game of Thrones? Are these not "age restricted" shows?
I mean your point is correct but just have to nitpick that 2 of those shows I’m pretty sure are on a premium network that doesn’t do ads mid program
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
It's not they care what ads go through on mobile anyways. So many overtly sexual ads that give me second hand embarrassment for whoever decided to let them on the app
@@thecyanpanda241 It's about time somebody else mentioned this problem. Those ads are so annoying and they just prove TH-cam's hypocrisy
They even have ads meant for adults on their children's videos, so it just goes to show that TH-cam makes absolutely no sense in what they deem is "family friendly" or not. 😂😂 I'd say about 1 in every 10 ads on a children's video is actually meant for kids. 😂😂
Edited to remove an unnecessary "and". 😂
I hope jacks doing well. He deserves the best
This is such a well-articulated response to the whole situation. I'm glad that Sean is talking to YT about the problems and offering solutions, and I'm really grateful to have creators like him that can communicate effectively to their audience. Really great video!
I create entertaining videos as well
They're all bots!
Weres the appeal for the dislikes back already suuuuuuuuuusaaaaaaaaaan wheres the appeal for the removal of spam bots suuuuuuuuuuusaaaaaaaaaan
@Kavetion
imagine having so little in your life that you make bots mocking a dead person
@@breadcrumbs49 ignore him. His address already leaked anyway. Let the other people handle that guy IRL.
P.S.: that person with the bots lives in WA (Washington) state. In Coupville.
Honestly, I think removing dislikes is also an issue. Of course some people just hate change and that's their only gripe. But many of us use the ratio to determine if the information given is actually good (think tutorials, diy's, advice, etc). But apart from all that, I think it sort of adds to the feeling most of us viewers have: TH-cam does not care what we want. They just want money.
There are other issues that have caused problems for us viewers, like TH-cam Kids. It should not be affecting MY side of the platform. (And it is quite poorly maintained, it seems to be an automatic systems aswell). And, to add creators into it, they can't remove that tag. There are way too many videos I've come across that get snagged by TH-cam Kids that are absolutely NOT child friendly lol
Basically, I think they need to at least acknowledge our frustration. Because ignoring adds to the feeling above that they just don't care.
and the bots ^
We can't forget parashockx for keeping up the comics for over a year haha
just get the chrome extension to look at them
The youtube kids also annoys me so much. Everytime I just want to comment on a random video or add it to a playlist I just cant because it's "its for kids"
@@mooleydaman2964 Or some simple math.. View ratio vs like ratio.
I fully agree that there isn't much inter-department communication. I'm not big enough for my own rep, but I do have access to partner chat support, and there has been many instance where I'll fire up chat to ask a specific question, get an answer. Then the next day, hit up chat and ask the exact same question, and get a completely different answer. When it's a question that affects monetization and discoverability, it's important to get a straight answer. But I find I get different answers depending on the person.
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
@@cosmic3393 no
@@flipson570 Keep reporting that bot and its owner until they're gone forever.
Wow Capp on Seans video. What a crossover :D
@@juusto3_352 Hi there :)
I guess now it’s truly valid to say “I miss the old TH-cam.”
removal of dislikes?
stricter policies for child suitability, causing majority if not all to suffer?
susan being hired?
it was way too soon to say its valid buddy, it all started when susan came in (not including the ad skip monetization she implemented)
@@xe_n02 dammit susan
@@xe_n02 Oh lord 😞
@@xe_n02 who is Susan? Is she the worker for TH-cam?
@@jennawebb4225 she's the ceo
Even though Jack is pointing out some really big issues, I feel the sad reality is that TH-cam won’t listen and not fix the problems at all.
big companies don't tend to listen unfortunately
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content btw
have u heard about the sex scene in twitch where she got banned for 7 days for showing nudity?
7 days ban only
other twitch streamers gets banned permanently
I make entertaining content too cuh, if it’s trash lemme know
@@cosmic3393 Dude, piss off! This isn't about you!
I'm writing this Hoping my feedback gets to TH-cam through you Jack:
1. Get them to at least tell the creators what's wrong with their videos before flagging them.
2. Give creators 12 hours to remove whatever's wrong with the video before removing or striking it down themselves.
3. Make sure to hire manual reviewers that can at least follow the guidelines competently.
4. Make sure to PROPERLY CHECK if a video violates copyright or community guidelines before taking action. So that we don't have cases of channels being deleted, Large streamers like LoFi girl losing her stream over false copyright claims and creators like MxR crying on their channels out of fear that their entire livelihood might get deleted.
5. Make sure your recommended only features ONE video PER CHANNEL. So that there could be more diversity. I don't wanna log out of my Google account and see 7 videos from Mr. Beast and Sniperwolf on there. I want more creators to be featured on the recommended tab.
6. Don't put ad restrictions on a creator's video when he/she calls you out for your BS. It doesn't do you any good.
Looks like jack read all the youtube regulations
CommieTube is censoring a lot of things right now. I use the word Commie on purpose.
I can’t even tell you that YT is engaging in authoritarian tactics like those in other countries like Russia and China without them booting my comments.
see at my banner
I think It would be better to give them 24hrs, because the creator might be taking a flight to e3 or something else.
My love for you has outlasted 2 devices, 3 acounts and almost 8 years of my 15 year old life and I to this day will support as much as I can. We will follow you to the ends of the earth, we all love you and your content.
Hate speech should not be a reason to punish, penalize, and should not be a reason silence someone in any way. And TH-cam should not determine what hate speech is and what misinformation is. Change My Mind.
Just makes me miss the old days of Newgrounds “Everything by everyone” and TH-cam “Broadcast yourself”
Well Newgrounds is still everything by everyone
@@Ditzius06 yeah but they didn’t become Gigantic and owned by google to become a giant Informational well for advertising
@@Ditzius06 well, it hasnt really grown latley so it aint really by "everyone"
@@Ditzius06 true, but in a way, its not the same cuz they removed adobe flash. Such sadge.
More like "Anything by anyone"
if he’s taking a break, heck yeah, good for him! i just hope everything is okay! i’m missing my sean content haha
Same here and also my middle name is Marie 😂 edit: Caitlin Marie
he might be planning something for his 5,000th video (which is his next video)
He’s also working on the IRIS project which might be delaying uploads as well.
was thinking the same thing!!
Bro, me too.
i love how sean talks about those issues even tho it does not really intervene with his channel, respect
@YeaMan No one asked, bot
@YeaMan did we ask bozo?
And he looks kind of beautiful here.
@YeaMan bro can't spell page
@@garethmurray5901 He always is
1 whole month without me favorite Irish man, but he is taking a break and we have to respect that, take as long as you need man
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definitely agree when you said “this seems like a trend that might die off quickly.” us, the viewers who aren’t really affected by these issues, require you guys/the creators to talk about them and keep the traction going and start new conversations about the issue. honestly i wish there was more we could do aside from give youtube’s problem the spotlight (example this vid is #1 trending), thank you for making this follow-up sean! i definitely think it’s all an issue with communication. youtube could do better if they just tried.
Watch Business Casuals video about yt not sticking to their 3 strickes policy and lawsuit against them!
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@@cosmic3393 Okay then...report
That's the issue....they aren't trying...real question is obviously....why?
Hello Jack. Thank you for coming to vegan class. I reviewed your work today. You will get your grade at the end of the evaluation.
i just love how sean's video was "not suitable" for ads, yet the ads i see on this platform are borderline suggestive half the time
double standards are insane
Video: has some swear words and maybe a skimpy outfit
TH-cam: *UNACCEPTABLE**
AD: Omg why don't you fuck me, I'm so lonely?
TH-cam: ....
@I love you!! At least the ads you get don't have canonically underage characters
(I'll let you figure out what I mean by that)
@@ShwappaJ oh no, you're kidding, right? I've had red for so long that I have no clue what the ads are like now. That's disgusting if it's true.
@I love you!! SaberSpark actually made a point about those types of Ads in one of his Videos! Even questioning TH-cam how those Ads are ok when they restrict that sort in videos.
i got some horse content like 3 times and desided to hold myself from scrolling down on shorts forever
As a person who works customer support, I can tell you exactly what is going on with the consecutive manual reviews getting different decisions. The team handling this has only vague standards to follow and a lot of it is left to the interpretation of individual agents. Also the different instances of manual review were being handled by different agents. Some try to stay overly cautious, some are more lenient. And no - no team that works in that field calls a meeting for every case where it's unclear how to interpret the content. If they acted that way, nothing would get done and they would do nothing but have these meetings.
The problems arise from the following:
1) Apparently YT has no system in place that would allow agents to see if a manual review was already done - as a result they double or maybe even triple their workload, because videos get manually reviewed multiple times - that's poor organization and a waste of time, in a situation where YT already claims it's impossible to hire enough people to manually review everything.
2) Big youtubers get preferrential treatment. That is a fact. When a small youtuber uploads something even a little leaning toward the boundries of appropriate content, the bots strike the video down. When a big channel does something straight-up inappropriate, the bots don't even touch that, so the worst case scenario is when somebody bothers to manually review the content. This is evidence that the algorythms have exceptions coded in them for some channels. This only increases the inconsistency, and therefore the problem
Ya know I kinda thought this, and it's sad how spot on my guess was. I know this would take years to probably fix but looks like TH-cam needs an overhaul in reorganization and recode on bots
@@mariaarakat8823 I guess I should add that I do not work for YT or Google. But I do know the inside of customer support pretty well. However, the thing that really stuns me about this is the preferential treatment. I mean, how many times did letting things slide by default for big youtubers bite YT in the ass HARD? Call me old, but I still remember the Logan Paul in the Japanese suicide forrest thing and how roayally that screwed over most channels and YT themselves. Yet they learned nothing... and that wasn't the first or last time something like that happened...
Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness.
God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him!
As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him.
Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, for any reason; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE!
Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals!
The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil.
I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God.
This is also exactly how unseen bias happens. It's a fine line to walk, and nobody ends up happy in the end.
I appreciate your suggestions, as an influencer you hold a certain responsibility in leadership. As a leader, in nursing I have been taught to advocate by brining attention to the problem and always having 2 solutions.
Your communication solution is solid, there needs to be full disclosure between all departments. Each TH-cam rep should have a response from every department and ultimately a solution that was voted on deemed worthy.
Nice to know big TH-cam influences, like you care about the growing and coming up influencers, all TH-cam influences should be treated with equality, regardless of status, and all rules should be consistent.
As always, love your videos and thank you for being you💜😊
TH-cam has been too comfortable for too long. They expect creators, even massive creators, to just accept their arbitrary, inconsistent, completely opaque policies which affect their livelihoods without question.
And it's been this way for the longest time. To this day, they refuse to reinstate the public dislike count despite very valid feedback that this feature could mean the difference between life and death for certain DIY or health related content.
They're so complacent and arrogant. The second, the very second, a viable competitor comes up, many creators will be gone and take their fanbases with them. The issue is, they remain convinced that day will never come.
First Video when you type 'Bikini Try On' has nudity yet is a video thats been up longer than this whole mess. :)
Such as being able to distinguish if the dislikes were due to bad content that shouldn't be allowed to stay on the platform, versus people disliking just because they might disagree with the peronality or attitude of the person delivering the content, like ER Doctor vs Doctor Mike. Edited to say neither has bad content, but do have different personalities.
It's the same way with Twitch. Lack of consistency and transparency with their ToS and moderation. Honestly I give it 5 years or less before YT (and especially Twitch) to fully implode if things don't drastically change soon. These biggest creators/streamers are multi-millionaires and if they banded together they could easily make their own platforms to replace Twitch and YT and the reality is, their audiences will follow because their loyalty is to the people that entertain them, not the corporation that provides the website to click on. Especially not when those corporations are actively hindering the content that entertains us.
When will the bots disappear????
...or otherwise you're gonna do what? Watch videos on... where? Facebook?
As an audience, I know most (if not all) of us stand with creators. We can and will continue clicking, watching, & keep this in the limelight. Fight the power, guys.
see my banner
2005: "TH-cam: Broadcast Yourself"
Back when youtube focused on supporting the creators, not the company policies.
IM BETTER THAN JACKSEPTICEYE
@@cosmic3393 k bud
@@cosmic3393 bro you have the maturity of a 12 y/o which those featured videos
You’re right. It’s not there anymore when I look up TH-cam. :(
Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness.
God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him!
As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him.
Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, for any reason; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
I'm guessing jack is really preparing for his 5000 video which is insane to thing about and I'm so glad I got to be apart of this amazing journey of his and I cant wait for to hopefully continue for ever!
The fact that Jack continues to use his platform to talk about these issues speaks volumes about the kind of creator he is. Thank you for always seeking accountability, we love you💚
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
@Jack Wrath if u were u would have more subscribers
@@anita2.037 it's a bot yo
@@Terminallyposessed dw man I know I'm just bored-
I see a lot of people saying "this is TH-cam's downfall" and honestly, it shouldn't be. It should be catalyst for change. TH-cam has honestly hundreds of thousands of videos uploaded PER DAY on this platform. They cannot get a person to look at all of this stuff that happens. They use poorly functioning bots and an inconsistent algorithm to cover the gaps. What they need to do is fix their systems, improve their communication between departments, upgrade these bots, be consistent with what they do and just be honest with the community. This is NOT that hard to do honestly. Talk, that's it. That's all. Communication, consistency, and honesty. They absolutely have the resources to improve these things, they are not hurting for money. They need to put the resources in to actually do it
Problem is youtube has to not only keep its community happy but also it investors and advertisers. Which almost want the opposite. Community wants pure creativity without censor and the investors want clean content they can put their face on.
I'm better than jack lmao
It’s like twitch only banning the partners for a small fraction of the time compared to a smaller creator getting banned
And they won’t. If TH-cam knew that their systems were broken, they would’ve fixed it AGES AGO! Being a catalyst for change or no, TH-cam’ chances to turn back the clock are very slim & TH-cam’s chances to turn back the clock have already been used up. They’ve had their chance while they still could, and yet they chose to slack off & ignore all these lingering problems. I highly doubt TH-cam will ever make up for all the damage they’ve caused, because they’ve screwed it up again & again!
@@SpicyPunkRockerOfficial were they good?
I love watching Jack talk about situations cause it doesn't seem like he's reading a script. His words feel genuine
Sean, I hope you''re having a good break, for whatever reason you need to take one, we miss you but we understand and hope to watch more of your amazing content soon. My kids and I love watching you together and we always have a blast and laugh so much.
Yeah I agree people are forgetting issues. Like how everyone gave up trying to get QuantumTV banned and now just let him run wild
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To be fair, if youtube isn't going to deal with him what power would the every day user have?
@@romkin1197 Just wait till' it's hacker hour, I guess?
@@romkin1197 protesting and annoying TH-cam enough until they do it. Also we can tell people to stop watching TH-cam which can lower their stock prices and hurt their wallet. Then they'll listen
So, Legit question.. Who's QuantumTV?
TH-cam's lack of transparency with why they made these weird, anti-creator decisions is one of the most baffling things about this whole situation. I really hope that this current wave of criticism doesn't slow down or stop like every previous wave
I create entertaining videos as well
TH-cam really won't change unless it's a "serious problem" according to them. It sucks that youtubers are the ones who are suffering. They are the one who keep people on their platform. TH-cam needs competition according to me. But no one will go against youtube who have already invested billions in their infrastructure.
@spaceace1288時間_日本語学生 Just report comments like that. As far as I am aware, they are either bots or just spam.
@Paul indeed if not what is her real purpose cuz I don't mind ad stuff but didn't give the freedom is worse than Nazi.
They got bought by Google and get billions from corporate press. As far as creators are concerned, it's a "what have you done for me recently" situation.
Guys. This is his 4,999th video. I don’t think he’s taking a break. At least ONLY taking a break. He’s planning something special. He’ll be back.
The fact Sean managed to keep calm and get his message across in a professional manner just shows how great he is at handling these types of situations
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content btw
hey see my banner thanks
I love how everybody on TH-cam has collectivity come together to stand up to TH-cam
When Jacksepticeye talked about how making videos doesn't seem as fun due to the restrictions and than goes on 3 week break, I find it a little heartbreaking I hope youtube can fix these problems soon.
Yeah, maybe it’s a silent protest? Might not be but just a thought..
They won't unless they start to die out
@@littlefluffyduckling8380 maybe. Its scary. I hope youtube wakes up. Atleast its not as bad as twitch
@@littlefluffyduckling8380 To be honest it's actually pretty smart. TH-cam benefits a lot financially from popular youtubers and people like Sean make a massive impact if they'd suddenly stop their work. I hope they recognize the issues. We all know they won't, or at least to a minimum and only temporary though.
yea its been a month now an Im over here like damn plz come back lol
Jackie, this break really shows how good of a fandom you have accumulated, and it’s all thanks to you! Everyone wishes you well, and i do too. Hope you come back soon(but when you’re ready) with a bang!
It’s so sad to see someone as happy and joyful as Jack having to talk about this. It just shows how bad TH-cam has gotten.
im so glad coryxkenshin posted about it, if he hadn’t i dont think any other youtubers would come out and talk about it any time soon!
i had never heard of this guy, neither had any of my co workers and were on TH-cam quit a bit. I understand he has a lot of subscribers but even still. all of sudden hes on almost ALL of feeds starting yesterday . im wondering why TH-cam would frontpage this. seems kind sus
its sad to see all these adults being so stupid when it comes to the real world.
nah
I guess the TH-cam doesn't like swearing.
I know this is a bit of a tangent, but I still think they should bring back the like-dislike ratio bar, because despite the abuse that happens to some channels, that bar is also very good for determining the value of videos pertaining to be informative. It's not good that fake DIY videos, like 5-minute crafts are able to circulate without that clear indicator of false information. It's better to have a ratio that is somewhat reliable than none at all.
They won’t because all they care about now is money, removing the dislike count was the move that confirmed the assumptions
there are browser extensions that still let it display, i can see it even now. Whether they'll work forever, I don't know, but at least they're stable now.
Here is another infuriating change that I haven't seen anyone talking about. Probably because so far I have oy experienced in on pc youtube. They are getting rid of the "skip ads" button. Now it is "skip ad" and you have to skip twice, every time a 2 ad pairing pops up. So now instead of waiting for 5 seconds to get to your video you must wait for ten seconds.
@@AstralDragn what extension do you use?
@@hitfran4644 I use one called 'Return TH-cam's Dislike'
TH-cam has actually told me they don't want to tell you what part of your video or content infringes you need to edit out because then "avoid partners from going around our guidelines" in their words.
Oh hey Manly, what club do we join in this situation?
uhuh...
dang
then they should keep an eye on the youtubers going around the guidelines...
Manlybadasshero i have been watching you for years my favorite series is mad father i dont like how yt is either being racist or picking favorites because this platform is supposed to be for only entertainment purposes but yt just want the money
Been watching since 2015 and no matter how bad shit would get you were here doing your thing. I'm glad to see that's still the case man I hope youtube doesn't ruin this for you
Hate speech should not be a reason to punish, penalize, and should not be a reason silence someone in any way. And TH-cam should not determine what hate speech is and what misinformation is. Change My Mind.
Can we all just applaud and appreciate that Corey, Sean and many others have the bravery to speak up against their own platform.
@Jack Wrath you’ve commented this more than 66 times, please go get a job or hobby.
the discussion everyone’s having right now is much more dire and important than “LuL, mY cOnTenT is BeTTeR!1!!1”
@@Shreepa98 just report and move on. Replying isn’t doing anything, they probably won’t even read it.
@Jack Wrath you work your ass off for this huh?💀
@Kavetion fatherless
Def overused “cAn wE aPpReCiAtE¿¡”
Seems like Cory has opened a can of worms that needed to be opened. I appreciate you Jack.
DADSEPTICEYE IS LITERALLY GONE LMAO, I MAKE BETTER VIDEOS
IM BETTER THAN JACKSEPTICEYE
@@cosmic3393 clearly you're not since you're acting like a child and commenting this...
@@gabewestcott5532 prob a bot just report and ignore friend
@@gabewestcott5532 don't pay attention to that
I've gotten many false strikes before, ALL appealed and monetized and green-flagged. I was doing a livestream doing what I normally do, except it literally had nothing wrong with it. It was striked and taken down mid livestream. I tried to appeal knowing full well I was no where near breaking guidelines, rejected. Reached out again, appealed again. Rejected. 3rd time was a charm because I knew 100%. I. Did. NOTHING. Wrong. I had to involve other people who do the same content, and use them to help my case. Bring up old false strikes, old videos, full detail of everything. Green-flagged, strike appealed, able to upload. It was the most stupidest strike appeal I have ever had to go through. It took just over 3 days.
False warning/Bot striked me
2 humans declined my appeal
1 human appealed
You did the right thing. Handled it in house by involving other people who create the same or similar content. Complaining about it to millions who don't actually get it won't help
Omg- I subscribed to you and I'm surprised but at the same time im proud of what you did and you did the right thing.
wow I remember you
Nth proof that algorhythms need to be monitored and the guy the programmer shows it at should know what they are looking at (very unlikely), that people at the YT HQ don't talk to each other and ultimately that some people are more bots than bots.
This happened to me only after a video was uploaded live. Then I appealed and waited a month or so until it fell off.
The funny thing is: i don’t have enough subs to even reach monetization. 😂 *wheeze* I also didnt want a dumb ad running in the video for some random copystrike company to earn a profit.
So I did a little digging and I found out that the TH-cam game on was illegal because there was a segment where two of Trevor Henderson creations fight huggy wuggy and the among imposter, so I searched it up and Trevor’s monsters are not copyrighted but the imposter and huggy wuggy are copyrighted so , that’s not good ,also at the end of it I got really Annoyed because the big finally had Bella porch who is mainly a tik-toker and they cut markiplier’s section out, this just brings up another point with TH-cam, marketing toward celebrity’s , a good example is TH-cam rewind 2018 with a a lot of celebs featuring in that. So jack I don’t know if you see this but I just wanted to point this out. Also love your content byeeee
TH-cams issue with greenlighting a video and than flagging it again and again is very big. I had this exact issue happen 4 TIMES for one video and the final time it was flagged, they refused to look at again and re-monetize it.
it's interesting to see how it only takes 1 person to start an avalanche of change. first Cory, now everyone else.
u cant light a fire with out the first spark
Another issue involving Act Man happened not too long ago. For those who helped fight for that, this is the final straw
I make entertaining content too cuh, if it’s trash lemme know
Jack has talked about problems in youtube for years to be fair.
As someone who had a very knee-jerk reaction to Mark's segment of that event getting cut, I really respect how level-headed and reasonable your responses to these situations are. It brings me back down to reality a bit when it's easy to just boil over and get mad. I'm glad there are creators like you who are acting with the intent to reform TH-cam rather than just railing against it as it's so easy to do.
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content
I get Jack’s reasonings on why people shouldn’t get angry about Mark’s section. I just hate that TH-cam is using Mark’s face to advertise, then cuts him out. It just feels super scummy.
I felt like jack is going way too easy on youtube for that, its scummy and shitty and people have every right to be angry. I understand why jack thinks being nice will fix the problems but really the only way to get a big corporation to change is with thier user base getting mad and voicing their concerns in mass. I feel like jack is a but naive and had a bit too much faith in youtube.
@@swimsvg1855 I get where you're coming from, too, but I think history has shown that mass outrage doesn't get through to TH-cam. Time and time again, people get mad at YT, and nothing changes -- see the Act Man vs Quantum TV situation, for a recent example. People got PISSED, and what happened? Nothing. Quantum is still on the platform. Maybe it's time to try new methods, like how Jack is suggesting bringing forward more actionable solutions instead of just sheer outrage. If big TH-camrs working from the inside gets shit done, then I'm all for it.
I hope you are doing well. TH-cam has looked like it's going to crash and burn for a while now...I can tell you with confidence you are cherished by millions, and your TH-cam channel content will always be in our hearts and memories no matter what happens--Unnus annus taught me that. With much love and a bit of luck, Sam.
Sean isn’t just a great creator, he’s a good leader. He knows that his platform is MASSIVE, and he uses that to help his “coworkers”/fellow creators. He knows that good communication and having manners will create a space where rules can be made, kept, and respected while still upholding the space that these creators have to express themselves.
Yes, the issue is frustrating. However, the only way to make a real difference is to clearly articulate your needs as well as possible solutions. As a Communications Major, I have a new level of respect for Sean in this way.
There is one major issue with this conclusion as it pertains to this particular situation however - It requires a mega corporation to actually care. And that literally never has been the case in the history of mega corporations. They do not give a damn about a soul. They only thing they care about is their profit. That's it. Please themselves and their stakeholders. Everyone else? PAH. They can go F themselves. And they know it is good for perception and business if they can at least gain the majority's perspective being that they're "listening" and "will look into potential fixes to the issues that are most prevalent and pressing to their clients & customers". That aspect is just marketing. It's a part of maintain just enough loyalty/trust that they can continue to not give a damn, make no changes, or the rare instances they do, ones that make no sense at all, which is the case most often with Google via TH-cam, so that their overall profits at least stay the same, if not increase, while they lose minimal or no customers and clients whatsoever. For TH-cam, the clients would be creators, the customers the viewers. History then shows this to be exactly how Google operates TH-cam.
It's akin to the false notion some of these big creators have like Sean showed here - "They really do care about their creators" - What he fails to recognize, is that it is not them they care for, it is the traffic they generate for the company to the website, and thus the views and clicks they then generate, which then is how they make their profit. And when viewers actually interact with ads, they of course get a cut of profit themselves from that as well. So again, it is not the creators themselves they care about, it's just the traffic, clicks & views they drive, thus the profit that then generates for them. And it's recurring profits - a self-fulfilling cycle of it, too. And they don't have to do anything to make it. It's the creators doing it all for them. The creators keep the masses returning for more, which then, is almost guaranteed they'll continue to view more videos both from the same creator and others as well. And it happens each time they open a video from their largest creators. It's inevitable. So it makes perfect sense for them as it guarantees profit. Thus just BARELY clinging and keeping these massive creators on their platform - doing JUST good enough to do so - is all they'll ever be willing to do. As again, it's only about the profit they make them. That's it. Not the creators themselves.
So in the end, that's the issue here with your perspective. It requires the corporation to actually care about it's customers and it's clients. But... to think Google does this is entirely delusional. The proof has always been right in front of us the entire time. It still is. Hell, it always will be.
Now if you apply that perspectives of yours to that of a smaller company, then you have a higher chance of it being true for them. The smaller the company is, the more likely that is to be their core focus and values, thus the more likely it is your perspective will be true for them.
You need to go outside , get some friends , you ideolize ,a normal guy who is doing the reasonable thing, waay too much.
@@pomelo9518 thanks babe
@@hahahahanope7659 how are they idolizing him?
"TH-cam doesn't want it's creators to fail." They sure have a funny way of showing it. They actively go out of their way to impede a lot of creators I follow when they try to fight false copyright claims. I have personally seen the emails of TH-cam outright denying to send counter claims to the claimants because the channel did not prove fair use or that they owned the content in question. And I have personally seen channels GO DOWN because of this crap from TH-cam. Tbh I absolutely hate TH-cam The company, and they have no reason to improve because they're the only kid on the block. We need a genuine competitor to force TH-cam to actually make meaningful changes in favor of EVERY creator BIG or SMALL.
They should I don't know change the leadership of TH-cam for more freedom or return what make TH-cam great like previous years.
literally. well said 👏
The sad thing is that if a genuine YT competitor gets extremely large themselves, they may start having the same problems as YT itself. Companies that get too big are bound to have a lot of issues that won't get resolved if it doesn't impact their revenue.
That's not true. They allow "dick or dildo" videos to thrive!
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FINALLY an almost accidentally coordinated effort to bring this up. It's been years that I've heard all of these issues sporadically from everyone that uploads regularly. I grew up with youtube, I've been watching TH-cam videos since 2006. After the handoff to Google everything went downhill with the unexplained censorship (i think censorship can be necessary and good for respect of others, but not explaining why something is flagged or taken down is inexcusable). Everything being hidden behind curtains to cover up what a mess all the departments are has been getting worse and worse and it's just terrible.
It isn't easy to run and upkeep this kind of massive platform and anyone who tries to make a video-hosting website will learn quick why there is such a high turnover rate in video reviewing and moderation departments (the "creepy side" of youtube is NOTHING compared to what doesn't make it up thanks to the manual reviewing departments assisted by the algorithm). However the mess that happens with videos that DO get through but then gets caught in the middle is so exhausting and I just want them to be honest with what struggles they're having so that creators can work WITH them rather than the departments and creators all fighting each other passive-aggressively.
@卐ᛋᛋerbian Warlord卐 your proving jacks point
They don’t call it CommieTube for nothing. They’ve been muzzling people like me for pointing out the KGB-like tactics they’ve been engaging in. All of this is happening because of politics. It’s been happening to me constantly; there’s certain political content I can’t talk about without CommieTube intervening.
Nah fuck that. Censorship with the intent to "respect others" is bullshit. Everyone should and can receive criticism no matter what type of person they are. If you're (not you btw) that overly sensitive don't even come on the Internet.
no one cares
They don’t call it CommieTube now for nothing. This is happening because of politics. They are engaging in tactics like those of more authoritarian eastern nations that have the opposite views of government than we do.
It’s been over a month, I know it’s a probably just a break due to the TH-cam issues but damn we miss you sean, hope your okay 💚
And no one mentions The Act Man. He did a video that technically "exposed" how abusable the system is and how they fall short on many of their own rules. It really did look bad for TH-cam, and what did they do? They demonitized his channel, banished him to oblivion, and and made him delete the video. It's clear that they did that to him because of what he's done. It looked damaging towards their image. The Act Man is the most real case that no one talks about. Now he's really scared of saying anything.
dude i know it absolutely annoys the hell out of me
let's not forget that the whole of Bungie couldn't even get access to actual humans after false DMCA claims were happening in their name
I make better content than Jacksepticeye
@@cerjmedia, dude, right? What a wacky world we live in.
@@cosmic3393 considering that you don't have videos in your channel, you're saying that "nothing is better than Jacksepticeye". Nice compliment
I hate watching a platform that was once so positive crumble, but it feels its about time now especially with everything going on
@YeaMan based
@YeaMan but learn to spell too
@morbert morbson It’s a bot
@@OfficialIfunny I think it used to say page, but maybe the comment itself got report for spam to automatically delete them so changed it to "paige" to bypass. It's just a theory.
@@OfficialIfunny the word based has lost it's meaning.
The fact that Cory's message about TH-cam was recognized by almost every creator on the platform shows how caring everyone is about this situation.
I ate 100 DEVILED EGGS in a video 🤪🔥
bruh jacksepticeye makes bad boiled eggs I make better content btw
You are a legend, and you speak facts. THANK YOU for being straight up with your fans.
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Hey Jack I’m sorry how much this problem is affecting many TH-camrs. But your concerns about it are definitely true TH-cam’s safety as this point has really taken a turn on becoming extremely predictable. And the fact that they are doing nothing about it at all just makes the situation completely worse. So Jack I hope you are still safe from all this and remember we are still here to support you. Honestly this just goes to show that TH-cam’s generation today just seems to all over the place.
You act like he lost someone
They don’t call it CommieTube now for nothing. They’ve been muzzling people like me for pointing out the KGB-like tactics they’ve been engaging in. All of this is happening because of politics. It’s been happening to me constantly; there’s certain political content I can’t talk about without CommieTube intervening.
@卐ᛋᛋerbian Warlord卐I don't believe bots
@@KeleousIt's still a huge problem on youtube
@Kavetion mabye one day if you grind
Its crazy how one simple youtuber made an entire wave of creators going "holy crap he's right" and showing more evidence on their side
coryxkenshin
Cory is the goat
cory is awesome
Cory is the best Ong and deserves to be heard. Because everyone else who is "to small" to be noticed is suffering too.
Sometimes one person pointing something out is what everyone needs
Thank you so much for speaking up, and even more for addressing the issues without any malice. At the end of the day we want the space to be better so we can all use it
I just suddenly remembered that I haven't seen Sean for 3 weeks. Take care man whatever that's good for you, we'll wait here ^^
I miss when creators were actually allowed to be themselves and didn’t have to be extremely cautious when uploading a video. I feel like TH-cam is stealing their personalities.
@Yulds read the room 🙄
I agree the age restrictions, monetization and demonetization, copyright systems need to be fixed. I want to monetize my videos but I don’t want to take the risk of TH-cam interfering with my videos even though I swore like two times or showed a little bit of gore (keyword is “little bit”) in my videos and stuff
I make entertaining content too cuh, if it’s trash lemme know
@@chickennoodles5292 it's a bot man, they literally can't. Report and move on
@Soulless Ginger agreed
Lemme summarize the whole thing for you:
"Manually" reviewed, meaning, ain't nobody actually manually reviewing ANYTHING. It's all done by bots unless you make an absolute mess, something big enough to get their attention on twitter or on youtube itself, that's it, no mystery, no complexity, only deception and people who are innocent enough to believe the whole thing isn't being handle by bots.
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I guarantee at least some of is in some way manually reviewed, I used to do so. Now I have no idea the specifics of how or why we had to review what we did, but there are manual review processes in places for sure.
If it was just bots then wouldn’t they all have the same criteria and therefore make the same decision? Why would it get disapproved then approved?
I create entertaining videos as well
Ive heard from people that its not a bot but its a clip sent to their people. TH-cam doesnt force their workers to sit down and watch a 2 hr long video when theres only 30 seconds of it thats being brought into question. Which is understandable because thats ineffecient as all hell and youtube is already really damn slow with some stuff. Just imagine it like when you look up something on google and it gives you the "start of suggested clip" option for the video instead of forcing you to watch the whole video. Thats what the manual reviewers get, a short clip taken out of context then they get asked wether the video should be demonetized or simply waved by and given the all clear.
Coming from a person who works as a Quality Assurance Analyst: What this sounds like to me is that there is an issue with TH-cam Quality Assurance team. It sounds like they have an AI program that will automatically flag a video based off key components within the images or the words spoken. When it is appealed, it will get sent to a QA who then has to manually review the video based off TH-cam's standards and either green, yellow, or red light it based off its content.
After the video is uploaded, its then subjugated to further AI monitoring along with the public's reports. This is the danger when it comes to having AI in QA as it can misinterpret content, be a generally harsher evaluator based off standards, or not be updated with TH-cam's updated QA policies.
Even if it is more than 1 physical QA manually reviewing the video when in this process, because the different QA too can have differing opinions on the subject matter based off policies and guidelines.
sounds to me more like outsourcing since moderation is a frequent outsoucred action for social media giants
I don't know if my comment will help at all on this sort of matter as well, but I do know for smaller youtubers like Asprey Archived, they're being flagged for songs that isn't SUPPOSED to be claimed like 'Love Sign Master Spark' which is "owned" but free used by ZUN but some stranger claimed just because there was no "owner". Even Vinny, a youtuber, who made their OWN SONG, got claimed for THEIR OWN SONG and I feel like it should be REALLY talked about
@@ObeliskDemon That is a possibility. I work for a 3rd-party contractor, so we have to adhere to the same policies and guidelines as the client, as well as the contracting company's policies. Any violation of either of these policies typically results in fines charged to the contractor, so the contractor can often times be stricter than the client, which could be the cause of the green light to yellow light scenario.
@@Treas0ner_and_Co. Vinny made a vid with a Red Vox song in the background?
@@austinwells243 I worked in a vendor site as an ad integrity specialist (reviewing ads before they hit the platform for a different site). the competitors that did the same job did with a very laissez-faire attitude (their quality was 30% where as we were at around 95%, this being judge as correct/checked campaigns. we charged appropriately more too) and so I can believe youtube has the same issue with their vendor sites
Hey Sean! I hope you're doing okay and even though I'm late i do hope we can make effective change in TH-cam's systems. Thank you for speaking up on this subject.
So with Ethan's 10 year anniversary (this is according to his Twitter). He uploaded it and it was flagged as inappropriate 8 minutes later, and said it was manually checked, despite being 2 HOURS LONG, which physically couldn't have been checked all the way through in that time. This means one of a few options. The first is the flagger saw something fairly bad in the first few minutes and just flagged it. The 2nd more likely option that might fit for your case is that it *wasn't actually manually flagged.* It's not unreasonable the same system keeps checking the same person and then changed its result based on some random variable or just skips 'previously checked' segments, resulting in false positives. Either way it's a weird occurrence that stands out in the light of this and makes it feel like people actually aren't even checking anything anymore.
Watch Business Casuals video about yt not sticking to their 3 strickes policy and lawsuit against them!
for one, means its being managed by people that is only working for themselves and not for the community
for other, means they arent caring enough to be clear of the system and leaving to automatic response
either way, its just bad rep that would need to be solved internally first so the rest to fall in the right place
I've had a video uploaded awhile back which got striked within minutes of posting it. The funny thing is that I know it wasn't reviewed by a person, seeing as the video was flagged within the first few minutes and there wasn't anything in it copyrighted or breaking the guidelines and said video was longer then 10 mins.
I've since not bothered uploading anything after that: Why bother trying to post videos if they're not even going to review it themselves but instead rely on an algorithm/system that's already incredibly flawed.
TH-cam needs a "board of creators" who are actually large content creators who actually know what it's like to create videos and be a part of the community, but they also work at TH-cam and can help the company make the best possible desicions for creators as well as viewers with their unique perspective
Oh my God that's genius that should definitely happen they probably won't but I hope that happens
Issue there is if they are only large creators then many will have been in it for years and can no longer really speak about how it is effecting newer creators. So better a rotating board of users chosen at semi random for a monthly discussion about changes and issues. Grab old established channels and newer ones.
YESS
@@spartanonxy Honestly, compared to the current status quo, I still feel it would be an improvement over the current system. TH-cam's own employees don't seem to understand how to run a youtube channel. At least big creators would bring some perspective. It's like when you see games and ask, "Did the developers even play this themselves?" and then taking feedback from large streamers. Sure, it's not the grassroots audience, but it's better than nothing.
@Kavetion You’re worse than Technoblade.