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  • High-quality leather is synonymous with Italian fashion. Some of the most expensive leather is made through a process called vegetable tanning. It's a craft that has its origins in prehistory, and today the technique is kept alive in Tuscany. This time-consuming process can take weeks to produce a type of leather that becomes especially beautiful with age, all thanks to the use of naturally occurring vegetable tannins. While this method for making leather may be threatened by the world of fast fashion, its makers remain hopeful that genuine craftsmanship never goes out of style.
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    Why Vegetable-Tanned Leather Is So Expensive

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  • @johnl.7754
    @johnl.7754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1364

    At first I thought it was about a Vegetable made Leather 😀

    • @abhishekchoudhary1846
      @abhishekchoudhary1846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Same 😂

    • @hunterhussain809
      @hunterhussain809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You mean vegan leather?

    • @larsstougaard7097
      @larsstougaard7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Me too, I want a video about that, give us 🍓🍄🥝🥭🍍🥬🥦🫑 leather

    • @parkersears1478
      @parkersears1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Seriously, I wanted to see vegan leather, thought this was 2021 🙃

    • @Stevieboy7
      @Stevieboy7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@hunterhussain809 "vegan leather" is new marketing for polyurethane plastic fabric.

  • @kevinfield2162
    @kevinfield2162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Leatherworker here. There is a vast difference in the quality between veg tan and chrome tan. The problem is that because chrome tan is so damned cheap it's very difficult to explain to the masses why your leather wallet you made to sell costs so much. They want it as a rock bottom price which doesn't even cover the leather let alone the time investment. I totally feel for leatherworkers trying to make a living. I just do it as a hobby.

    • @AlexanderMason1
      @AlexanderMason1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You don’t seem to know as much as you think you do. Some of the nicest leathers out there are chrome tanned. The cheapest leather will usually be chrome tanned because it is cheaper to do but you have very high end chrome tanned leather as well. It is also stronger than vegetable tanned leather, has the potential to be softer than veg tan and is far more resistant to water and weather. They all have their uses but the best chrome tanned leather out there is way better than cheaper veg tanned leather. Naturally, because vegetable tanning lather costs more, you’re generally going to avoid making a cheaper product as a manufacturer. That being sad you have low-and vegetable tan lather it’s just like you have high-end chrome tan leather. It all depends on the finishing as well as the tanning.

    • @clipdump
      @clipdump ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@AlexanderMason1 I've seen some dreadful veg tan stuff. it's just not as consistent. But when it's at its best a chrome tan leather can't really come close. Chrome tan is incredibly useful though. We should just be glad that those hides are being put to use

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexanderMason1 It really depends on the recipe. Not all vegetable tanning agent are the same. To make softer vegetable tanned leather, you may need more certain fatliquor and technique. Chrome tanned leather has the advantage of being cheap and can have brighter, colorful color compared to vegetable tanned ones. Chrome applied usually is just 6% of dry weight at max. Vegetable tanning agent, depending on the recipe, may take 10-25% and longer time to soak.
      Note that due to chrome tanned leather being cheap, many use it for patent leather, in which the raw material with low quality can be used. The most obvious is LV bags, that already lose its leather characteristics. And yes, LV is the low tier of luxurious brand. Meanwhile, vegetable tanned leather usually for natural look leather, so it need higher quality raw material (and pricier).
      But you have to consider the environmental issues right now. The leather industry is currently lowering chrome usage since it's heavy metal. And that includes lowering synthetic tanning agent like Bisphenols.

    • @joshm3484
      @joshm3484 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When comparing the same type of hide, chrome-tanned leather typically offers a softer texture, better water and stain resistance, more vibrant (albeit less deep) color options, increased heat resistance, less maintenance, superior tear resistance, and it's generally more cost-effective. However, it's essential to note that just because chrome-tanned leather is often used in cheaper products doesn't make it inferior. Many mistake its affordability for low quality, but renowned producers like Horween would beg to differ. While chrome-tanned leather has its advantages, it's distinct in appearance and has environmental implications.
      Now, when it comes to meticulous leather craftsmanship, vegetable-tanned leather might have an edge due to its rigidity, making it more manageable for detailed tasks like cutting, skiving, stamping, and stitching. While chrome-tanned leather can be equally stunning, veg-tan has a truly unique aesthetic. Additionally, vegetable-tanned leather's reduced elasticity makes it my preferred choice for items like belts.

    • @2076273
      @2076273 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your comment made me believe that you know nothing about leather.

  • @dawsie
    @dawsie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    😳after watching this I finally decided that regardless of the price this will be the leather of my choice, I loved how the colours become warmer with age. Thank you for making this film it really did help with my personal debate I had been having with myself originally over the cost when I had been sourcing leather for a project. It might cost more up front but now I see that over it’s life once turned into something the natural way of tanning will help ensure my project will age gracefully 😊😊

    • @dkelker1
      @dkelker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love veg tan too. I ssid i would never dye myself buti loveto dye natural veg tan. I mostly make handbags

    • @loadedpainted7040
      @loadedpainted7040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yeah Ive never bought chrome tanned leather for my projects (mostly belts) its much more customizable and ages way better its also stiffer and more durable in some ways

  • @nomorok15
    @nomorok15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    I have a over 100 years old doctors bag that my fiances Italian greatgrandma gave me and the leather on it looks incomparable to every other leather item I have ever seen

    • @insectbite1714
      @insectbite1714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are not a snowflake because you live in Italy, the world's worst country.

    • @nomorok15
      @nomorok15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@insectbite1714 dude im German read through it again

    • @APAstronaut333
      @APAstronaut333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is Italian. Lucky you my friend

    • @marialindell9874
      @marialindell9874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Please research what types of leather products (like soap and oiling/moisturising) you might need!
      Taking care of the leather well will give it years more of age and use.
      For example with saddles, we need to take care of them because the stirrups can scratch the ontop of the use. A saddle can ve very expensive. You need that saddle to last.
      Same with leather boots ect.

    • @nomorok15
      @nomorok15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@marialindell9874 I am lucky enough to have a really good leather workshop in my general area so if anything I just do what the guys there tell me to when it comes to anything that I own made out of real leather

  • @minty_macaron
    @minty_macaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    I genuinely thought it was made out of vegetables-

    • @larsstougaard7097
      @larsstougaard7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😊❤🍄🥦🥬🫑

    • @GraniteInTheFace
      @GraniteInTheFace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is why fabric no longer matters. We can make cotton look like leather these days and we do. It's all about marketing. It's also because of marketing that people are focusing on mushroom leather these days.

    • @larsstougaard7097
      @larsstougaard7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GraniteInTheFace wise words, I want to see and feel this magic mushroom leather you speak about 🍄

    • @ryanmcewen415
      @ryanmcewen415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@GraniteInTheFace not really. I work in the leather industry.
      All those processes used to make other things look like leather are all highly toxic polyurethane finishes.
      Even mushroom, leaf or other Pleather alternatives are all plastisized products.

    • @danialimran7720
      @danialimran7720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vegan leathers feels fake. It doesn't feel good compared to real leather

  • @marwansal4175
    @marwansal4175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Love it when Italians try explaining their craftsmanship. So passionate about everything.❤

  • @J0E..
    @J0E.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    Imagine the smells in that place

    • @mangar3147
      @mangar3147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Probably smells like a new car

    • @originalketchup7498
      @originalketchup7498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Bad... it smells bad

    • @SarahHogan100
      @SarahHogan100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      it actually smells good

    • @o-6877
      @o-6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those labor workers in the factory... wow

    • @mcope9233
      @mcope9233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Tanned leather smells pretty good, and the fact that they preserve the hides in salt before tanning them would probably mean it smells decent

  • @RIPbiker13
    @RIPbiker13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Veg tan leather is all I use in my leather carving projects. Making wallets, and cases is expensive for just the material going into them. My time isn't even included in that. In the end, this material can be used to make incredible things that last.

  • @mowedi
    @mowedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Let's all AGREE on this... everything is expensive these days.

    • @dha588
      @dha588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everything's expensive in New York.

    • @samuraiboi2735
      @samuraiboi2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dha588 laughs in singaporean

    • @sidehop
      @sidehop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *used

    • @PG-3462
      @PG-3462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It depends actually. A car or a TV in 2021 is much less expensive than it was 40 years ago

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  • @juanpasala
    @juanpasala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That s one of the best, most accurate, and truest to the craft documentaries I ve ever seen on leather making. Congratulations.

  • @FlaxeMusic
    @FlaxeMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "this large wood rotating vessel, known as a drum"
    no way, you're pulling my leg

    • @gunsmithfiamma4788
      @gunsmithfiamma4788 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not even the real name of the machine. It's called "Bottale". That you can literally translate in English as "Very large barrel".

  • @rawbacon
    @rawbacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The Cow is the Perfect Machine providing Dairy, Meat, Leather and Fertilizer.

    • @firstnamelastlame8081
      @firstnamelastlame8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And greenhouse gasses unfortunately

    • @MythSpeed
      @MythSpeed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firstnamelastlame8081 doesnt all machine or activity in itself cause some sort of harm

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct.And parts of it go into pharmaceuticals, beauty products, confectionery, lubricants, pet food. Even the blood is used, but I cannot remember what for, but if you want to know I will find out for you.

    • @josephgagne4520
      @josephgagne4520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firstnamelastlame8081 methane is captured by all farmers.

    • @Pythonzzz
      @Pythonzzz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@josephgagne4520No, it’s not. That’s not even possible.

  • @ianking-w6f
    @ianking-w6f ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saddler here, my hand stitching will outlast any machine stitch !
    Old Ways Are Good Ways ! !

  • @watchspotting
    @watchspotting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My brain: It's 3 AM and we have school tomorrow
    Me: Hmm I wonder how vegetable-tanned leather is made

  • @monchelato.cesare
    @monchelato.cesare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I work in Arzignano’s (Vicenza, Veneto) leather district. It’s quiet bigger than Santa Croce’s(Tuscany) district. In Arzignano I tan with Chrome and GDA (glutaraldehyde) every day, and I can say that this type of leathers are very different in features than vegetables tan. There is very good Chrome tanned leather and bad chrome tanned leather. With chrome and GDA the story is different than Vegetables tan, usually the industries make, from raw hides to wet blue or wet white, a standard product. The main features of the final product are made with re-tanning, neutralization, fat liquoring and drying methods. For example is used to add in re-tanning vegetables tannin or synthetic tannin to Chrome leather to emulate the Tuscany ones, this is made a lot for shoes leather. An important step is the finishing of the leather and this is another world. I hate when I hear “vegetables leather are the best in the world”, yes they have an unique look and they are amazing, but I wake up at 4 a.m every day to tan hides, and I work for 9 hours a day. I stay all the day near the drums to check pH every hour, to check that the all process is going fine, I give to the hides all my attentions. It’s a passion after all. Also in chrome and GDA leather there is hard work, passion and love for the product.

    • @juanpasala
      @juanpasala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ancha massa!

    • @LizzettDaviZz
      @LizzettDaviZz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about waking up at 4 am to make a bigger difference in the world other than using flesh from an animal to make product
      🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️
      Or better yet make a business of your own 🤭🤔

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LizzettDaviZz I am sure that he does a far more useful and productive job than you do.

    • @LizzettDaviZz
      @LizzettDaviZz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hattonbank funny you mention that not knowing anything about me. Let me fill you in a bit. I own and operate 2 businesses working on a third while also taking care of my family kids husband whole shabang, and guess what no animals are harmed in the process 🫠🙃😉 Also all products are natural. Good day to you Bernard if that’s really your name.
      There’s no need to troll this is TH-cam I’m entitled to my opinion on things I have researched about. You have no idea who I am or what my life is about so to go in like that is truly unnecessary, but go on if you must that was just a little about me if you knew all about me I’m sure you would of never commented that or maybe you may have being that’s what trolls do, but I don’t know you like that so I can’t factually say that 🤪

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you need better recipe.

  • @killgora1
    @killgora1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very interesting. Chrome tanned leather is great for bags, jackets, and furniture, but when it comes to tooled pieces you really wouldn't want anything else other than veg tanned leather. Also chrome tanned leather will assist in steel rusting when it comes to knife sheaths and gun holsters you are going to want veg tan unless you are doing like a kydex one. I'm an armature leather worker. I just make things for fun, or gifts. I love using chrome tanned for things like dice bags, and sometimes costume pieces if I want to try and be ambitious. But when it comes to the occasional time I make a sheath, or holster I will use nothing but veg tanned. At least for any leather that will touch the blade, or metallic parts of a firearm.

  • @ethanmullett4128
    @ethanmullett4128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    it just seams like the craftsmanship is italy and japan is unmatched

    • @YY-ug9mv
      @YY-ug9mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Italy is just advertisement,they make them in Turkey,later put their brands on it.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fenasi Kerim thats not true. Artisans in Florence hand make their products. Only the open tourist markets goods are probably from Chinese factories north of Florence.

    • @YY-ug9mv
      @YY-ug9mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't know about authentic local family shops but big brands are just advertisement ....In an article published by the New York Times in 2007, Gucci is, unfortunately, one of the big companies that have their goods manufactured by illegal Chinese laborers in Italy.
      These products are made down in the Tuscan town of Prato, located outside Florence. What you may not know is that Prato is the leading center for the production of leather goods by and for the top luxury brands. As a result and with the information about the use of illegal Chinese for labor, Prato boasts the second-largest Chinese population across Europe.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fenasi Kerim thats why covid first came to Italy from China.

    • @thomasburke7995
      @thomasburke7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No some of the best craftsman are actually located in the United States and the UK.. what you are seeing here is methods of producing that someone does not want let die for financial reason or culture.. it's not better it's just different.

  • @houdinous520
    @houdinous520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This background music had my pinky in the air the entire time. Fancy yes

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    @binaryglitch64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @jonahthrane812
    @jonahthrane812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like that they aren't killing the animal for the leather, rather it's more so using every single part of the animal.

    • @Luisa-pf9ss
      @Luisa-pf9ss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nowadays cows and other animals are also killed For the leather.

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Luisa-pf9ss Never! Cattle reared for beef will fetch about $2000 or more at market. After processing all of the meat, intestines, fat, vblood and leather, it is worth over $3500. Of this amount, the abattoir gets $50-70 for the whole hide.
      So your argument that they are killed for their hide is totally wrong, they are reared and slaughtered for the meat. Only an idiot would spend years raising animals just for $50 a head!

    • @Luisa-pf9ss
      @Luisa-pf9ss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Hattonbank This is what was said in the documentary Dominion. Your description makes me very frustrated and sad, i hope we stop treating animals as products or food soon. I have so much empathy for every cow that is born into this torture industry. :(

  • @clown454
    @clown454 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this has to be one of the few products on this channel where the price is justified

  • @JudgeDredd_
    @JudgeDredd_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I need the fastest Pershing Yacht and I want my entire interior outlined in vegetable leather. Lights and darks.

  • @daau9900
    @daau9900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I brought a leather belt, on box it was written veg tanned, I thought it was vegetable leather, got mad at myself, felt cheated by company, started searching and watching this video I'm satisfied it's just a term. 100$ dollar

  • @2076273
    @2076273 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a leatherworker my self, the things wrong with this video is mind-boggling....

    • @js250
      @js250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As an exotic leather tanner myself I must say amen to that. The whole narrative is to degrade other types of leather to make it seems veg tanning is so much more expensive, which it is not really.

  • @kburdy
    @kburdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We just started selling Veg-Leather where I work & this was VERY insightful on the process and how it’s different - THANK YOU !

  • @deltalubelubricantsindones999
    @deltalubelubricantsindones999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Large wooden rotating vessel called DRUM. Thank you.

  • @amineassaf7238
    @amineassaf7238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    in morocco, we have high-quality leather 100 % natural after a lot of steps...

  • @coldwarrior3794
    @coldwarrior3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Veg tan ages well too. It will develop a beautiful patina with use and if properly cared for will last generations. Buy from quality manufacturers like Corter leather over LV or Hermès and you will have a beautiful one time purchase as opposed to a mediocre purchase you’ll need to make every 5-10 years.

  • @Losttoanyreason
    @Losttoanyreason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any tannic vegetable matter can be used to make vegetable-tanned leather. Oak leaves are good. Swamps work for curing as well.

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  • @merikmalhads1676
    @merikmalhads1676 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a biochemist, this look into tanning actually looks more like a primitive plastic construction then anything else. Since the tannins tend to be benzene rings with alcohol or OH groups on the ends which the collagen will bind to which is also what most early plastic monomers were. The big difference between plastics and leather is that plastics often polymerize an entirely new physical network while the tannins in the leather are binding to a pre-existing physical mesh. In that way, I guess fiber glass could be considered a type of leather as it essentially has plastic-forming monomers branch and bind together multiple layers of pre-existing paper sheets kind of similarly to the way those monomers would like sheets of, or I guess threads because collagen forms into strings/threads, collagen to form leather

  • @stocktonjoans
    @stocktonjoans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've got a veg tan belt i've had for over half my life, the buckle wore out before the leather did

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  • @LifeGeneralist
    @LifeGeneralist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The important thing is "...that no animal is killed for its skin or meat"

  • @tombaily29
    @tombaily29 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The "problem" with vegetable tanned leather is people want their leather products to look the same forever.

  • @UriValdez
    @UriValdez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoy working with all kinds of leather but veg tan its just a fine piece of craft that will out live you!

  • @chinmayeepradhan277
    @chinmayeepradhan277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now I know why my vegetable tan leather roll is soooooooo expensive

  • @GraniteInTheFace
    @GraniteInTheFace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chrome tan comes out supple out of the shop. Veg tan is not inherently better or worse than chrome tan. It's just suited for different products.

    • @zacwoods
      @zacwoods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Horrendous comment😂😂

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacwoods No it is not, Cr is correct. Will you find veg tan leather in a Rolls Royce, certainly not, it will be chrome tanned.

  • @Rice8003
    @Rice8003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Those leather bags and chair looks so good. Like I don't know of it's the dye as well, but it definitely looks supple. This might be the first So expensive product that I genuinely want.

    • @hyssean12
      @hyssean12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Google natural veg tan patina. It starts off a light pinkish skin color. But over time will darken and shine up substantially.

  • @RashidMBey
    @RashidMBey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    To clarify: vegetable-tanned leather is *not* the same as vegan leather. 😂 Still interesting to watch and learn! Thanks!

    • @chelseagirl278
      @chelseagirl278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is what I thought. I would be more interested in that!

    • @syedqayyum8415
      @syedqayyum8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct! The term Vegan leather (which I think is hilarious) is nothing but synthetic leather made from chemicals (it's polyester/plastic basically) and used very loosely these days - brands are great at marketing and fooling those that are not aware. There are a lot of new raw materials recently that are not harmful and truly vegan in my opinion - cactus, pineapple, etc but I wouldn't call it leather. Not sure how long they last but as a a leather craftsman that uses vegetable tanned leather I can vouch for the quality, longevity and it's reduced environmental impact.

    • @chelseagirl278
      @chelseagirl278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@syedqayyum8415 environmental impact? A cow uses up feed, water, land, time and lets not forget the killing of an innocent animal. I will take items made out of vegetables any day than carry around dead animals

    • @syedqayyum8415
      @syedqayyum8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@julm7744 Vegan and leather should not be used together. Just call it faux/synthetic material instead.
      The environmental impact these synthetic materials have (which contributes to fast fashion) is very deteriorating to the environment, unlike vegetable tanned leather. A bag for example made from vegetable tanned leather will last 3-4 times longer than these synthetic materials.
      I agree that chemical/chrome tanned leather is no good either (my opinion on this form of leather and the so called "vegan" leather is the same - it's Shite)
      Also, the term genuine leather is loosely used - it's worst quality of leather you can get. Look up the difference between that and full grain if you're interested.
      Majority (if not all ) of the tanneries around the get their hides from the meat industry - no one's killing animals just for their skin.

    • @jlw3306
      @jlw3306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@chelseagirl278 These cows aren’t killed for their hides, this is just a by-product of the meat industry. Why shouldn’t we utilise as much as possible instead of throwing it away and using plastic for faux leather. Yes there are leather made of plants, but this hasn’t really reached the mass market yet.

  • @samantarizzi248
    @samantarizzi248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super informative! Thank you! I just bought a Bayswater bag by Mulberry😊 It’s a Legacy Natural Vegetable Tanned leather bag in the colour Oak and I love it so much.

  • @zachmcphearson890
    @zachmcphearson890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leathercrafter here! Haven’t even gone through the intro without hearing inaccuracies so please consider these videos as for entertainment purposes only not educational.

    • @user-rv9um5xc3r
      @user-rv9um5xc3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don't you correct them, instead of just being an asshole?

    • @MiKi-sx3tt
      @MiKi-sx3tt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What part they do wrong?

    • @zachmcphearson890
      @zachmcphearson890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-rv9um5xc3r I’m sorry if you think of me as an asshole for saying that it’s better to think of this channel as an entertainment outlet. I just didn’t feel like unpacking the entire video. I hope your doing ok.

    • @zachmcphearson890
      @zachmcphearson890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-rv9um5xc3r and correcting them will not affect anything :)

    • @user-rv9um5xc3r
      @user-rv9um5xc3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachmcphearson890 But whining about it will?

  • @justinprince5109
    @justinprince5109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just like most people. When I read the title, I also thought leather made from vegetables.

  • @1hughjanus80
    @1hughjanus80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now have so much Respect for leather
    Something i was lacking

  • @Sean-me4fv
    @Sean-me4fv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my Louis Vuitton vachetta leather wallets. And yes they ARE worth the extra cost, and NO it is not for the brand or logo. The quality is incredible.

    • @AMogus-jr6qk
      @AMogus-jr6qk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheaper wallets exist with the same leather

    • @Sean-me4fv
      @Sean-me4fv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AMogus-jr6qk please let me know where so I can purchase one

  • @crissysmart
    @crissysmart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really enjoy this series. Very informative!

  • @제철과일-q9x
    @제철과일-q9x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just saw Bangladesh - chrome base tanning process. Ha. What a relief and cozy.

  • @medicoslife2967
    @medicoslife2967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Her voice is so soothing,good presentation 🙂

  • @philipp594
    @philipp594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Horween in the U.S. also does vegetable tanned leather. Their famous horseleather called "shell cordovan" is vegetable tanned.

  • @temptemp4174
    @temptemp4174 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theres a reason people brag about "itallian leather" its in a league of its own

  • @VoyagerMaldives
    @VoyagerMaldives 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🤌 🇮🇹 this is why it’s so expensive.

  • @glidingwaves5210
    @glidingwaves5210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New season is ON... Very excited 😁

  • @rsr789
    @rsr789 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Offenbach's Barcarolle, nice choice for the intro music. 👍

  • @AmedaHolmes
    @AmedaHolmes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a leather worker and carver. Only veg-tan can be tooled.

  • @emilysanders2575
    @emilysanders2575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the price of the shoes was more due to the cordwainers hard work... I can buy a full hide of veg tanned leather for about £120

    • @stuartcommon4651
      @stuartcommon4651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, depends on what leathers used though, a nice J&JF Baker oak tanned sole leather with a cordovan upper would cost more in leather than a £120 veg tan hide

  • @sladewilson9273
    @sladewilson9273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't mention the most common source from my understanding is oak bark for tannings agent.

  • @livestrong1992
    @livestrong1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This video explains nothing about cost of goods and manufacturing. Therefore, it fails to explain why vegetable tanned skin leather is so expensive.

    • @jameswelsh4479
      @jameswelsh4479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because they said it takes longer. More time more cost

    • @livestrong1992
      @livestrong1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jameswelsh4479 time alone doesn’t answer the question. She mentions the product and tells us what happens to the product through time (all the different processes), but she doesn’t tell us how much the product in its raw form costs or how much it costs to run each process. And hand labor. And a bunch of other things like gas, electricity, water, etc. She speaks no economics.

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm no economist but The time seems quite significant though (x28) meaning output is lower but of the highest quality. Scarcity makes things expensive

    • @beerustheblack2846
      @beerustheblack2846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@livestrong1992 if you spend more time on a product it will inherently be more expensive on labour alone, have you looked up the difference in cost between the chrome solution and the traditional tannings solutions for instance..?

    • @xxxxxx5868
      @xxxxxx5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically it takes more time and the ingredients needed is more expensive

  • @shruti1980
    @shruti1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    i thought they made leather out of vegetables

    • @APAstronaut333
      @APAstronaut333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They made leather out of literal shit

    • @xxxxxx5868
      @xxxxxx5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@APAstronaut333 Yeah, and?
      It probably still looks way better then any vegan leather

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can make leather from the hides of animals, mammals, birds and fish. Anything else, whether it is called vegan or faux leather or anything else is not leather.

  • @androaccount1860
    @androaccount1860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought bag of veg tanned leather for my wife. It's really soft and beautiful. It's expensive but worth it

  • @rodderickjames-bp5rp
    @rodderickjames-bp5rp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Patina... What a wonderful word

  • @_iota.7722
    @_iota.7722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Waiting for video " why are Miyazaki mangoes so expensive. | So expensive.

  • @thunderusnight
    @thunderusnight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It's not *that* expensive. Tuscan dyed vegitan is expensive cause it's the Ferrari of the leather world.

    • @alessiocai9952
      @alessiocai9952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes my man hahaha, here my local dealer sells for 50€ a cowhide about 100cm m², what's make it expensive is the quality surface, texture, quality skin, colors added, colors are really expensive, you add alcohol based yourself but it's really diferent compared a tanned with pigments, they don't rub off so for using as Lining leather they won't rub off, in cheaper chromo tanned their lining leather it just smells so bad when you sweats on it and the color rubs off on your white socks

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Ferrari are not known within the automotive industry for using quality leather. Range Rover blow them away with their choices and quality of leathers.

  • @emeraldcoastgardensfl7323
    @emeraldcoastgardensfl7323 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent series of videos. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Angloman2000
    @Angloman2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If you think veg-tanned leather is expensive, look at brain tanning.

    • @LuxAudio389
      @LuxAudio389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great idea for a thesis, book, or documentary.

  • @brigada545
    @brigada545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing better than original leather.

  • @Waldemarvonanhalt
    @Waldemarvonanhalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While vegetable tanned leather is very often good quality, chrome tanned and leathers tanned using a combination of the two can be just as good. Just look at Horween's famous chromexcel leather.

  • @alphaTrader.oo1
    @alphaTrader.oo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only use vegetable tanned full grain leather

  • @Matthew17veeran
    @Matthew17veeran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a mighty fine couch he's sitting on.

  • @Happyfingcampers
    @Happyfingcampers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love some of that vegtan! Wow

  • @Kennylolwins
    @Kennylolwins 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is art

  • @Niuway44
    @Niuway44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet it smells really bad but also really good in the factory.

  • @thearchangel9835
    @thearchangel9835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😅 that awkward moment when vegetarians click the video with excitement only to find out that it's actually not leather made out of vegetables!😂😂😂😂

  • @Mesa877
    @Mesa877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love making leather knife sheets from veg tan leather.

  • @pnwRC.
    @pnwRC. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOWZERS! 21 days, No wonder it's so EXPENSIVE!

  • @yapolloable
    @yapolloable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    most luxury brand leather goods are chrome tanned, much cheaper than veg tanned ones.

  • @alishalchi1260
    @alishalchi1260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Early civilizations" give credit where it's earned

  • @augustinenayagam3840
    @augustinenayagam3840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noun: bravo
    (pl. bravos, bravoes)
    |braa-vow|
    A murderer (especially one who kills a prominent political figure) who kills by a surprise attack and often is hired to do the deed • his bravos were hunted down like animals
    = assassin, assassinator
    A cry of approval as from an audience at the end of great performance
    Verb: bravo
    |braa-vow|
    Applaud with shouts of 'bravo' or 'brava'
    INTERJECTION: bravo
    |braa-vow|
    Exclamation expressive of applause
    = well done

  • @cynthiapucheanu34
    @cynthiapucheanu34 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting!

  • @phuckyoutube5927
    @phuckyoutube5927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tannins are also why things taste bitter and dry

  • @RXQ003
    @RXQ003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my vegetable tanned boots :)

  • @alparslankorkmaz2964
    @alparslankorkmaz2964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video.

  • @johna.4334
    @johna.4334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Back in 2016 I had the displeasure of visiting the famous (infamous?) open air leather tanning facility in Fez, Morocco. Oh my gosh, what an eye-opener this turned out to be. These filththy, surly young men tan leather in huge vats of animal urine to remove the hair and for softening. The temp outside is 45C+ and the stench is overpowering. Pee-yew!

  • @sidjtd
    @sidjtd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Important note to emphasize is that any average person will absolutely choose means New chrome tanned leather over brand new vegetable tan leather unless that vegetable tan leather is extremely fitting to that specific persons personal preference.
    New vegetable tan doesn’t look better at all. Ours about longevity

  • @LakshmananLM
    @LakshmananLM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now, I've just realised the origin of the name Chromepet in Chennai (being once the centre of leather tanning industry in Tamilnadu).

  • @deevijrawul9866
    @deevijrawul9866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I read it has vegan tanned leather first , yes I lost some brain cells then.

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before I learn more about leather, I thought vegetable tanned means it's vegan and vegatable made leather!

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is some mushroom fabric but they kinda suck

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. Vegetable tanned leather means that instead of using man made chemicals as they do in chrome and chrome free leather, veg tanning uses the oils and resins from plants, trees and bushes etc.
      This is the earliest process long before man made chemicals were used which shortened the tanning process and made leathers more plentiful and affordable.
      It is probably a myth but they say leather was "invented" when a cave man dropped a fresh animal skin at the base of a tree that had a large exposed root structure that captured rainfall in puddles at the base. The rainfall running down the trunks absorbed some bark resin and together with fallen leaves that collected in the puddle, this fermentation started a reaction within the fresh hide.
      Several weeks or months later, the caveman came back to the tree and notice the sodden hide.
      He took it hiome, laid it out to dry, and saw that it did not perish but was tough and durable and could be put to many uses.
      With this knowledge he repeated the process and the rest is..........................history?
      It is a nice story, maybe there is some truth to it.

  • @randomdude5083
    @randomdude5083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And I thought that this leather was made from plants 😀

  • @s000mable
    @s000mable ปีที่แล้ว

    I have veg tan handbag it just feels better and smells very nice

  • @zombis89fisto
    @zombis89fisto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aw yes making leather nice and sustainable

  • @zainabahmadnagarwala7542
    @zainabahmadnagarwala7542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    narator:"no animal is killed for its skin."
    everyone:wait a minute

    • @ScumfuckMcDoucheface
      @ScumfuckMcDoucheface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      speeeeciiiifically... or it's skin*
      =P

    • @Zepi-Teon
      @Zepi-Teon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They are killer for meat, skin is byproduct from the meat industry

  • @GTA-qv8pk
    @GTA-qv8pk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tell you something this leather this vegetable tan leather is so premium and so expensive even the manufacturers speak in fancy languages I don't understand.

  • @prayagpomaje
    @prayagpomaje 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Capitalist made leather expensive to be honest. Here in India it's very cheap to produce excellent quality leather due to huge number of cows and buffalos. Boots and sandles of pure leather can be made in just 5 or 6 doller max . A normal shoe can last for like decades if it's made from real leather. I have mine been using for like 4 and half years now whenever I polish it shines like new one .

    • @rawbacon
      @rawbacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Send me some cheap leather.

  • @ultimatepicks131
    @ultimatepicks131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am the only one looking to see a leather made from vegetables. Lettuce perhaps?

    • @larsstougaard7097
      @larsstougaard7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🥬👕🥬👖🥬👗🥦🩲🥬🩴🥬🧢🥬🎷

    • @houghwhite411
      @houghwhite411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cork

    • @azusavalerian8306
      @azusavalerian8306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well there are cactus leather made from cactus

    • @r.m.4228
      @r.m.4228 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are leather alternatives made from ananas, apples, cactus, corn, palm leaves and rhubarb for example and the materials are really good, too!

  • @mcope9233
    @mcope9233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a leather worker, I can confirm leather is very expensive lol. One shoulder (aka half a full hide) can be anywhere from 80-200 dollars

    • @StuninRub
      @StuninRub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you think a shoulder is half a hide, you must be a shit leather worker.

    • @stuartcommon4651
      @stuartcommon4651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StuninRub although technically you're correct in that it isn't half a hide, it doesn't mean they're a shit leather worker.

    • @StuninRub
      @StuninRub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stuartcommon4651 A leather worker that doesn't even know the medium they are working with can be a good one? No, I don't think so. That reeks of milk and half hearted resolve.

    • @stuartcommon4651
      @stuartcommon4651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StuninRub no... a leather worker who puts down another leather worker because of their perceived lack of knowledge is a shit person... (that's you by the way)

    • @StuninRub
      @StuninRub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stuartcommon4651 You use the term leather worker very loosely. Somebody doesn't automatically become a leather worker just because they bought their first beginner kit off of Amazon.

  • @heyheytaytay
    @heyheytaytay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    150 plus vegans are triggered af. XD

  • @lx95020
    @lx95020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Leathersmith here. People get upset if they see marking on their vegetable tanned leather...they expect everything to look like chrome tan (corrected and perfect). Sad that people think genuine leather and softness is a sign of high quality. @brullencompany

  • @johnferradino
    @johnferradino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once saw a video about a tannery that used pigeon poop for tanning that claimed to produce the best leather, so which is it?

  • @philosofar
    @philosofar ปีที่แล้ว

    Wanted to ask any leather expert here ! What's the best way to look after leather products- mainly furniture, bags and watch straps, please ! TIA !

  • @muhammadislam8829
    @muhammadislam8829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know what the background music is?