I do remember when this series used to be about people just standing around and talking, and then it progress to the meaning of why we are all here. Red vs blue is my childhood and I will forever miss it RIP ❤️V💙
It shows so much character development. A season ago she'd come in there and do the deed herself. But after seeing him, broken and alone, she sees her Father. A broken man and she wants to hurt him, she really tries to hate him in that moment, but when she looks back into his eyes, she realizes that there is NOTHING she can do than what's worse than what he has done to himself.
"He was brilliant" "And we trusted him" "But he lied to us he twisted" "AND TORTURED US AND USED US" "He manipulated everyone for his own perposes" "AND FOR WHAT... FOR THIS.....THIS.... SHADOW" Literally my favorite part of rvb history
The scene where they show the Director's face is the saddest for me. It's not the face of an egotistical, arrogant villain. It's the face of a man who has lost the most important person in the world to him, and only kept losing more as he tried to fix it until all that was left was a sad, broken shell who had nothing left.
***** It might be both. He feels terrible that he's ruined any chance of repairing his relationship with his daughter (Carolina), and he feels like a failure, as he can never truly bring back Alison, the woman he loved above all else.
"You were my greatest creation" "I don't know what I am, but I do know this: I'm more than just a copy of you. I'm better than you." "...I wasn't speaking to you". And now I've got something in my eye.
This speaks volumes to me. As a man who experienced enough trauma to lose his memories and become and an amnesiac, I can understand the obsession with piecing together the shattered fragments of one's past that possessed the Director, and by extension Alpha and Epsilon until the latter finally ended the chain of self-destruction. I realized that my obsession with my past was destroying me and everyone around me, and only by watching this series did I truly understand what that meant. I may not be much more than a collection of somebody else's memories, but I do know this: I'm not just a copy of my original self; I'm better than him. When you lose those memories, you effectively become a different person, as memories are what we are based on; experiences that build us over time. The Alpha, the original me before the trauma, may effectively be gone, so let's see how the Epsilon version of me does. I love this series so much because of how much I personally relate to the story.
Allison had a role in this final encounter, as well. My favourite bit: Director: *Begins to look up, but fails to do so, his face crumpling in despair* Allison: "And don't worry. You'll see me again." Director: *Looks up to meet his own eyes in their daughter*
@@ScottThomasKelley And yet it also speaks volumes because that fear broke the Director since he didn't get to say goodbye to Allison before she died. I can imagine it isn't fun, but it hurts more when you realize how that's what broke him the most, and why Director Church wanted to bring Allison back-- it wasn't just to mend his heart. He wanted to tell her "Goodbye", just like Church/Epsilon got to with Tex/Beta.
@@ScottThomasKelley I SWEAR, I can hear Allison saying stuff VERRRRY low volume in the background. 1:47 “Carolina.” 1:55 “Carolina.” Edit: Also, I love how when Carolina kisses his forehead and forgives him, moving forward and starting new, the video restarts with Allison saying, “Ready?” This scene, nay the whole complexity of the show that went over my head as kid, is what makes this show so heart-wrenchingly beautiful
It amazes me that this show evolved from a joke show about the basis for PVP Halo into a multi-faceted, in depth, emotionally driven narrative on the human condition, warfare, greed, and growth. It truly shows the best of everything. I need to go cry now.
@@kristiankepley5944 To be fair, that's kinda to be expected. Do I/we ever want RVB to end? No, as we all enjoy it, but there comes a point where there's no more story to tell. No more character growth to show, no more emotionally driven content, no direction for the story to go without retelling it. Eventually, the show will either reach a point where it can't progress any further, or the content quality diminishes to the point the fans are no longer invested.
when she takes her helmet off, her expression is angry, but quickly softens and expresses sadness, and betrays a hint of pity. that. that right there is the best example of how good this show is
It’s the fact she had to see the video of her deceased mom, and her depressed dad all in one it’s all hard to take in. Which resulted in the rational decision to let go. I love the detail of this show it’s amazing
@@LetsPlayArcaniumAnd how she HATED her father for basically abandoning her for his obsession, but we see how Carolina saw hate only would make more hate, and that she also got to see that while Director Church did some horrible shit that he was just a broken man who was at the end of it all, and she pitied him because she must have seen some of herself for how broken she was due to his actions and her mom’s death as well.
Response from a fan: The director’s story was tragic. He wasn’t cut out to be a soldier which meant he wasn’t there to protect Allison. He started a program centered around bringing Allison back through the use of AI technology, but it failed and resulted in countless deaths. His obsession with bringing her back lead him to ignore Carolina. His only daughter turned into a weapon whose primarily goal was to excel in every way possible just to get his attention. Not to mention he fragmented the AI unit that was based off himself through rigorous torture. After all that, he never realized that he couldn’t get her back because in the end she was destined to lose. He gave up everything just for the chance to see her again and in the end all he had left was a recording of her.
I found this the saddest scene in RvB because instead of seeing a cold and heartless villain; I saw man who was broken and hurt from losing his wife and daughter.
@@ScottThomasKelley Something he could never get back. He was alone, which in the end is what drove him to end his own life. He had no purpose in the world anymore, and was doomed in the end.
"He was brilliant and we trusted him but he lied to us! he twisted and tortured us, and used us,manipulated us for his own purposes and for what!?! for this..this...shadow!?!" that speech fucking hits me deep
Epsilon: he was... Delta: Brilliant, and... Theta: we trusted him, but...... Gamma: he lied to us. He twisted, and.... Omega: tortured us. And used US! Sigma: and manipulated us for his own purposes, and for what? For this?! This... Shadow?! In order of A.I. Personality: logic, trust, deceit, rage, ambition.
I can't imagine a worse hell.... Being so close to your goal. A goal that was all you ever wanted. But knowing you failed. And you will die a failure. Hated, unloved, alone, and for nothing.... Pulling that trigger would be both the hardest and easiest thing ever.
I don't think it was about him ever being close to anything at all. It felt more like he was trying and not getting anywhere and each time being a repeat of the same mistake over and over again. The same pain being afflicted to the point he thought he was getting somewhere when he couldn't even realize he had stopped long ago. in the end all he could do is accept the one greatest thing in his life and finally end his suffering that had made others feel the same pain of losing another person that they cared about.
The entirety of the “He was brilliant and we trusted him” rant is one of the strongest bits of writing/voice acting in the entire series. Only Epsilon’s speech at the end of the Chorus arc can even compare.
As bad as the surrounding content is, Caboose's goodbye to church is also really, really good. "It's gonna be okay. It's all gonna be ok. It's gonna be okay." You can hear him choking on his own attempt to comfort himself, and it kills me. It's not ok, but it's gonna be.
@@handgun559 A year late but I've never watched past the Chorus arc since it was so well done and I don't mind an open ending but you have me curious, is the quote you mentioned from the later seasons?
@@zachgullerman3183 It's from the climax of season 15. People REALLY rag on it, for oft good reason, but I'd say it and 17 are the better parts of often low quality content simply for the amount of good *character* moments and development they have. Tbh, 15-17 all have good character stuff, it's just that they're so bizarrely written that brings it down. That, and 16 sort of fucks with Tucker's amazing character development and regressed him a fair bit. Though it *does* have absolutely fucking KILLER Washington and *Donut* content, so make of that what you will. (17 also has even more good Donut content) I say give it all a try, even if you end up hating it all, you'll still have some good character content from trying at all. Don't watch Zero, and I say that as an extremely open minded individual when it comes to quality. Zero is genuinely some of the most ridiculous and *blandly* awful content I've ever seen. If 16 is the one people don't like cause of it's weird elements, Zero is the antichrist that's awful without any of the unintentional comedy in a bad season. Zero literally undoes an UBER emotional and well written climatic and *significant* character moment with (previously) PERMANENT repercussions. ...For a microwave joke. And a very bad one at that. TLDR: The Caboose speech mentioned is from season 15, give it + 16 and 17 a try, avoid Zero like it's the Black Death.
"Was the project a success? Did you find what you were looking for?" "No, although I believe I came very close..." "Don't say goodbye I hate goodbyes" "If only there was a way" I'm a cold person, I don't cry much but... This scene got me.... It got me good with the final scen with the door closing......
I dont know what is more sad, the fact that the director dies without completing his goal (and that filss dies with him), the fact that Carolina had to watch her father go through this, or the fact that every A.I. within Epsilon came out just to talk dorectly to the director to tell him how much they resented him.
Jack Ardoin There's one happy thing about this scene though. It shows that after everything Gamma, Omega and especially Sigma did, Church made peace with them and accepted them as parts of himself.
And what's worse is when you realize Hargrove illegally restored Fillis to work for him and could clearly tell by her voice that she is not happy and utterly depressed
This whole scene is so powerful, from Church's speech, to Carolina's inability to be mad at The Director, to the viewer's realization that the guy who has tormented the teams for the past 10 seasons, both directly and indirectly, is just a broken old man, this sole moment is a big part of the reason I think Red Vs. Blue is, literally, the best show ever, of all time.
I really love the fact that after all this Maticulous planning, after moving each chess piece with caution, after moving hell on earth to accomplish his goal he finally realized all those pieces were people lives he was sacrificing and that goal he was trying to accomplish was impossible because the person he was trying to save was long dead and all was doing dragging around her corpse and desiccating her image ask because he got trapped in this feeling of no one will ever love me like she did and I can't go on living. I've seen people lose wives and it's the most tragic thing ever. Only difference is he had the resources and knowledge to make everyone as messed up as he was
The best part is the reveal. No impassioned speeches, no accusations between Carolina and the Director, just a man seeing his eyes staring back at him from a woman who can't bring herself to kill him.
I just realized when The director said "You were my greatest creation" he was talking to Agent Carolina. I don't know why but that blows my kind that he's her father.
This right here is what makes Red Vs Blue so great. One second it's middle school level humor and the next, it's a broken man putting a gun to his own head after he finally comes to the realization that he can't save his wife.
I loved this scene. before this I saw the director as a hardass and a typical antagonist, but in this scene it showed how far he's fallen. he's no longer the cynical badass director of project freelancer, he's a tired old man. a tired old man who spent his final years trying desperately to bring back the one he loved, or more accurately, the one who loved him. he kept failing and failing and failing, creating dozens of failed copies, none of which resembled the original, and in the end he was left defeated, watching a clip of his love over and over, wasting away in front of the screen, lamenting what could have been, all he'd lost, all he'd betrayed in years gone past. and then, his daughter comes in....
Yeah, like Tex is the Beta AI, and since she was based on the memory of Allison's death split from the Alpha since no matter how you look at it despite the Director bringing her back, she is always going to fail as that's what she's based on.
One of my favorite things about this scene is how when each of the A.I come out to talk they speak about exactly what their fragment was. Delta(the logic): “he was brilliant.” Theta(the trust): “and we trusted him.” Gamma( the deceit): “he lied to us, he twisted and” Omega(the anger): “tortured us and used us.” Sigma( the ambition. And the one who also manipulated everyone): “manipulated us, for what? For this shadow!” Then after it says shadow, it also goes back to epsilon (the memory) the shadow of the alpha. It makes the scene both that much more depressing and interesting.
+Fazin s Allison is Carolina's mom, the director is Carolina's dad. It's really bad when you think about it because that means (during the Freelancer flashback) you basically had the daughter fighting the mother in hopes of getting her father's approval (Carolina fighting Tex).
Nichols,zigzag26731 Rainville True but she was an AI based on the real person, and according to the Director's POV she was basically the real thing. We can see this at the end of Season 7 (I think) during the final communication between the Director and Commissioner. The Commissioner tells the Director that he will be charged and imprisoned for the crimes he committed against the Alpha AI and the Director responds with (and I paraphrase) "while we have many laws that punish the injuries we inflict on each other, we have no such laws on the horrors we inflict on ourselves." Meaning that he believed he wouldn't go to jail because the Alpha AI was based on himself, and that meant (in the Directors POV) only he was being tortured and there are no laws for torturing yourself. If the director does indeed believe that the Alpha is basically himself then he likely believes Tex to be his long dead wife in all ways but one. She wasn't perfect and he only had himself to blame (both him actually and the Alpha AI).
"You were my greatest creation..." "I don't know what I am. But I'm more than just a copy of you... I'm better than you." "I was not speaking to you." Well, there I go. Time to roll into a ball and cry for an hour.
His daughter, Carolina. I know now! I didn't when I first watched this. Damn. This scene was much more...emotional then when I first saw it now. Damn dude.
He was brilliant, and we trusted him... But he lied, to us. He twisted, and tortured, us. And used us! Manipulated us for his own purposes, and for what!? For this? This... shadow?
I absolutely love how red vs blue evolved. It went from a comedy to a drama and it is totally earned. The change was gradual but steady and retained the soul that made red vs blue special. I especially love how seamlessly the comedy and serious moments were blended. It's genius
I love how each AI appears when he’s talking about what they represent. And that we finally see the Director’s eyes. And the that last bit of confirmation of Carolina and the Director’s relation.
If you pay attention to bit with Epsilon, when he goes into the psuedo-fragments.. Each A.I. says something about the aspect they represented. Delta - Logic Theta - Trust Sigma - Manipulation Gamma - Lying etc.
Such great writing. Makes me wish the Director took a different path. Makes wish he would've let go and just be there for Carolina. Damn it Burnie you are an awesome writer.
This is a powerful scene from one of the best written shows out there. It captures the pain and the grief the Director holds deep in his heart, and he tried to get rid of the pain by bringing back his lost love somehow. Through his efforts, people died, relationships were broken, and some people suffered. The Director's pursuits only led to him becoming a broken man watching the same video file of his lost love over and over again in one last desperate attempt to bring her back. Burnie Burns did a phenomenal job writing Season 10, and it still stands as my favorite season in the series to this day. The seasons after that are okay and Season 13 is looking pretty good already so far, but it won't ever be able to hold a candle to this season. Thanks Burnie Burns!
Beyond brilliant. When epsilon goes through emotions each fragment made up, I've never felt something this close in a show before, after countless hours of watching red vs blue, that is my very favorite moment because of that.
Christopher Champion Yes, oh yes. One of my favorite scenes that gives me the chills every time is when we see the Alpha get tortured. When the Director lies to him telling him that Tex died, the Alpha's pain at the news gives me serious chills. Again, it's brilliant work by Burnie Burns
Blazeplaysgames I wonder who that'd be if he did...Maybe Carolina since they worked together during their freelancer days. Or maybe (and it's crazy that I'm saying this) Tucker, which motivates Tucker to be the leader that he needs to be.
In season 10 after they found the director and before church and carolina were going to announce the news to everyone caboose did say, "huuuh, You and agent washington are taking your relationship to the next level." I think thats how he said it. XD
What's so messed up is that during the speech, each AI Fragment shows up during their respective parts. Delta shows up at 'Brilliant', Theta at 'Trusted', Gamma at 'Lied', Omega at 'Tortured', and Sigma at 'Manipulated'. Epsilon only comes back when he says that the Director needs to pay, because he's the only one who remembers the hell that they all went through. That's great visual storytelling.
A few days ago, I decided to check out RvB, to see what all the fuss was about, and out of respect for Monty, as I heard some of his best animations were included in the series. I assumed it was just a throwaway comedy series that gave RT their start enough for them to expand to other stuff. I'm usually into the more in-depth and serious series', like RWBY, so I never thought I'd particularly like this. Now, here I am, with no laughs left to laugh, and no tears left to cry, now waiting for the next episode of not one, but two of my favorite web series', both by RT.
@@jamebeckhusen9030 Well, I can't deny there've been some pretty big bumps, but not enough to outweigh my love for the series. I admit I lost interest in RvB after Season 15, but even if I never get back into it, I'll always have those 15 Seasons worth of memories. And as for RWBY, Volume 7 was the best the show has been since Volume 3, and I'm hyped for Volume 8 in a month or two here.
One of the deepest moments of Red vs Blue, and I love the fact that they respected our intelligence enough to let us figure out the connection between Carolina and the Director on our own instead of beating us over the head with it which in my opinion, makes this reveal so much more dramatic and mindblowing
Great writing always delivers emotion and messages without vocal confirmation. These days people are always handed information clearly. Irl, its the subtle noticeable placements that can tell a story
Wow. I know that what makes Red and Blue such a hit is that it is the opposite of the Halo stories in many ways. I mean, none of these guys act like Master chief at all, and that's a good thing. But, it needs moments like these, which make it so much more than comedy. It makes it a real adventure.
When Carolina says "Church" before he rants, you can hear the pain in her voice. All that she's been through, all that she's lost, all he put her through. When she takes off her helmet and looks at him in the eyes, the pain in his eyes kills me. She can't be mad at him, and neither can we. We are mad at him for all he put them through, but we feel so sorry for him. He just wanted Allison back. When he says "you were my greatest creation" and responds to Church with "I wasn't speaking to you." We all just die inside. And Carolina, she understood why the Director did it. But she just wishes he hadn't.
Also idk if all this time she truly wanted to kill him for project freelancer or mostly to kill him and free him from this self torture. She watched her father crumble from a brilliant man to a shell while she also lost all her comrades...
This is one of the saddest and most profound scenes of anything I've ever watched. it only made it worse when Epsilon turned into the other AI. To carry all those memories and all that pain, it all came out in one shining moment.
Loss and pain can drive a man to do what he may have once thought he'd never do, and this man was a victim to it. It became his weakness, and was not strong enough to let go, and the scary part is, any person can fall victim to this, just the right place to hit in the heart, and the world around them crumbles down. This man is what happens to those who do.
Director: Hello Epsilon you came all this way to see me? Epsilon: I'm here to remember what you've done! Someone has to! Carolina: Church... Epsilon: Not all of us got off Scott free Carolina. Delta: He was brilliant - Theta: - and we trusted him - Gamma: - but he lied to us, twisted and - Omega: - tortured us, and used us - Sigma: - manipulated us for his own evil purposes! And for what? For this? This shadow? Epsilon: He needs to pay Well that was a moment...
The part where Epsilon rants and turns into all of the fragments is what always gets me. Alpha's is one of, if not the most tragic stories in all of RvB.
Through every TV show or movie or anime that I've ever watched, no one scene will ever hit me as hard as this does. from the monster of a director being nothing but a broken shell, to carolina being physically unable to be angry at her father all to the directors and fillis (yes I probably spelt that wrong) last words. thank you RVB for this amazing show.
Saaaame. Anime ranks above tv shows ans movies in terms of...well everything, but especially feels, but this scene is maybe my favourite in the history of media. All stages of grief and anger are all in this one episode. This story speaks everything. such incredible writing
"You were my greatest creation." "I don't know what I am. But i do know this. I'm more than just a copy of you. I'm better than you." "I wasn't speaking to you."
person: but that show is about people standing around talking why do u like it me:*"don't on say goodbye I hate goodbyes" "we trusted him" ~Carolina kisses director on the cheek~ "itsts been a pleasure working with you sir"* yeah...guys standing around in a canyon
the saddest thing about this scene is that even in the end neither The director nor Carolina could address each other as family. they stuck to formalities of project freelancer
The worst part is that when your learning about the director prior to this, you become angry with him, but then when you see those sad eyes filled with so much sadness and pain, you just can't help but feel sorrow and pity for him. And that's all you can feel for him and nothing else.
it's sad to lose a loved one. But the dead are gone. and cannot come back. They exist only in memories, and in memories they should stay. Instead of looking for a way to restore the past, with Allison the director should have been looking toward the future, for Carolina.
i have watched this too many times, but i only just realized that at the very end he reached and grabbed the pistol.. adding more depresion to this scene
This is one of the top 10 saddest moments in RVB and seeing Carolina Dad one last time. Number 1's saddest death in the RVB series is Church Death in season 13.
A decade later, this still makes me cry hard. It actually hurts even more now because I've lost a loved one after this came out and know just how hard it would be to resist this kind of temptation. This was the first time that I ever saw a sympathetic villain, and is so far the best. They made me cry over the death of the series antagonist, and that is truly incredible.
After seeing The Director's face and his expression was heartbreaking since he was trying to bring back the person he loves and I wouldn't consider him a villain because of that.
This is fucking sad. I nearly cried at this scene when I re-watched it, as I actually understood it's value the second time around, and the lessons it taught. It's not easy to make me cry. This was a huge turn of events in the storyline for me, where the villain that brought such doom and destruction to all of Caronlina's peers realized his faults and was confronted for it, and left alone in a state of depression. He knew himself he had lost everything; His work, his wife, his daughter's respect. His creations. "You were my finest creation" was a sad quote for me when I realized suddenly that the Director was Agent Carolina's father, and Agent Texas her mother. But this reaches an answer for the question our Freelancers have been asking themselves, all this time. Now she knows why she's here. And she knows what she has to do. She knows where her loyalties lay, and now she has the freedom to protect her newfound "lost causes".
(edited) I use this clip sometimes to remind myself not to focus on a toxic past relationship. The Director is so obsessed with resurrecting the past. Epsilon doesn't let go of the past. Carolina is the one who finally accepts that they both need to move on and not let their trauma consume them, and Epsilon realizes that he's better than the person responsible for his suffering. Sadly, I suppose rewatching a clip from a decade old web show for comfort is similar to The Director rewatching a clip of his deceased wife for comfort. But, what Church and Carolina say is important. "You need to let go. Your past doesn't define who you are, just gives you the starting point for who you're going to be." That bit hits the deepest.
@@malice5863 It is seeing as how lately RT has been less about teaching those lessons and more about being a clusterfuck....I mean have you seen RVB Zero...it's like Fast and Furious the puppet show for cryin out loud
While I do think everything the Director did was unforgivable, I can't judge him for it. Who's to say we won't do everything in our power to the impossible such as bring the dead back?
This scene is the saddest in Red vs Blue history, because the Director was built up to be this cold, calculating, evil man, but here, all we see is a tired, broken old man, who just missed the woman he loved. Everything he'd done, all the lives destroyed... all of it, because he couldn't bear to live without her. For all the villains I've seen over the years, the Director is the only one I truly pity, because he did what he did not out of greed, or hate, or ambition. He did it for the simplest of reasons. He loved Allison.
Me at first: Oh, boy, this show is hilarious! I'm glad it's just simple entertainment for me! Me now: Ok, just so I can mentally survive for the rest of the week, I need to look at other stuff so this show will stop making me feel things and OH GOOOOOOD MY EMOTIONS
Like all of us were so ready for this confrontation of the eeevvvvil director, only to reveal so much pain and everyone watching this scene could not hate him but was instead, heart broken for him. In this one scene, of clever machinima. Such a broken family, you cant help but feel for every character in this room (ofc including FILSS
Remember when RVB was a profound show about a man going through the worst thing most can imagine and failing to help anyone, not even himself? Yeah, that was RvB
Think about this too- when each fragment comes out to talk about resenting him, those are fragments of a copy of himself- it’s a clone of his own consciousness proclaiming how terrible of a person he is. A whole new kind of self-hate.
Something I haven't seen anyone really talk about is Carolinas advice to Church. "You need to let go. You can't let your past define you. It just gives you the starting point of who you're going to be." Is my favorite advice of all time. I have used it so many times in my life, especially right now as I am going through my own hardship. Love this show!
Even though I haven't seen RvB in years, this scene will never not make me cry. In my opinion, this will always be the most emotional scene in the series.
1:47 . That moment finalizes so much character development for Carolina for me. She went from someone who wanted to do the very best she could no matter the cost, even if that ulterior motive was petty revenge. But when she sees the man who she feels is worthy of death, she realizes that there is nothing she can do to him that is worse than what he has already done to himself and all she can feel is pity for the man. It's why she tries, really hard to be angry at him, but when she looks back at him, her rage and hate melts into pity and sympathy for him and why she kisses him on the forehead and leaves him the pistol instead of putting the bullet in his head herself.
Somehow, I turned a quote from this was scene into a motivational quote, "You last doesn't define who you are, it just gives you the starting point to who you're going to be"
I've probably watched this seen a hundred times and still Epsilons speech to the director gets me. It's not just the meaning behind each fragment taking over different segments but also that as Epsilon was one of the last AI fragments formed, and as he was the memory, then he would remember what the Alpha was put through to make the other fragments. That is what gets me with this. His anger isn't just born from his own suffering or the Alpha but everyone who the director used in his goal of bringing back "This shadow."
I feel like Church's speech there could be used in context of the relationship between the RvB fans and Rooster Teeth, only like this: *"They were brilliant, and we trusted them. But they lied to us, they twisted and tortured us. And used us! And manipulated us for their own purposes! And for what!? For this? This.......shadow!?"*
“He was brilliant (turns into delta) and we trusted him (turns into theta) but he lied to us (turns into gamma)! he twisted and tortured us (turns into omega), and used us, manipulated us (turns into sigma) for his own purposes and for what!?! for this..this...shadow!?!" The thing I love about this season is the small details, each time epsilon lists what the director did, he changes to that ai that matches that aspect. Truly amazing
"Don't worry, you'll see me again" That's why he wanted the pistol. Not out of cowardice or a way to escape punishment. He just wants to see Allison again.
Fucking years later and this scene still hits right in the gut , the whole thing. They did more in a animated show than I've seen million dollar movies and shows try. Even 343 hasn't really got to this point or the final scene of Church
'don't say goodbye, I hate goodbyes' Probably one of the saddest ways to end a season. Not only that but how he points the gun at his head really makes you think of the shit he's gone through.
This is the story of a woman who went to war but never came back. This is the story of her husband who could not move on and tried to bring her back, only to create a copy of them, making them live this nightmare again. This is the story of their daughter who did her best for her father to notice her and be proud, but ended up breaking the vicious circle.
"He was brilliant, and we trusted him! But he lied to us, he twisted, and tortured us, and used us! Manipulated us for his own purposes, and for what? For this? This...shadow? He needs to pay."
The scene with the A.I fragments always chokes me up. All those memories and the pain they carry. Would you do whatever it took to bring a loved one back? The Director isn't a villain, or a criminal mastermind, just a man who wanted to be with his loved one. Damn. RvB... Bravo...
I know this has been discussed as both canon possibility and headcanon for quite some time now, but I believe this scene among others hold STRONG evidence that Agent Carolina’s first name actually is Carolina. Her final exchange with her father really seals it for me. “Agent Carolina?” “Yes, Director” “Would you be so kind as to leave me your pistol?” “Thank you, Carolina” “Goodbye, Sir” Alone in that room with only himself, her, and Epsilon, knowing these would be the last words to his daughter, what other moment would he have to call her by her real name? And further, this makes the next lines even more impactful, not just in the reveal, but in the subtext and details. “You were my greatest creation”. He wasn’t thanking her for giving him her pistol. He was thanking her for being the woman he had always hoped to resurrect. He was thanking her for rising above the man he had become and choosing to let go. She had accomplished what he never could. And he wasn’t angry or disappointed, he was proud, and thankful. And that’s why she left him to his final moments on his own accord. It’s why Carolina from that point idolized her mom, and sought to uphold her legacy. It’s why she chooses to share that moment with church at the very end of Season 10, even though the two are clearly aware of eachother’s awareness of the lack of ambiguity in their “ambiguous” conversation. I could go on all day about this, but I figure that’s a good spot to leave this. Red vs blue never fails to fascinate me with the details that are written into the story, just as intricate as the details put into the comedy of the early seasons. The more I rewatch and think about this show, the more I am treated to the quality of its detail and carefully crafted love. Seriously one of the greatest shows ever written, and I really REALLY value complex and well thought out media. Its amazing to me that one of the most paradigm shifting pieces of media for me in that department has been a machinima, but good writing never fails to impress me in the forms of media it can exist within. I just hope this show is appreciated generations down the line with how much it can teach people about their own lives. RVB is a serious case study in masterful writing and depiction of the human condition. The fact that even some of us get to experience its brilliance and appreciate it is good enough for me…
The thing that’s crazy, is when Carolina takes off her helmet and the Director takes off his glasses and they look at each other, that’s real. They’re not looking at each other as Superior and Lackey, they’re looking at each other as Humans, specifically, Father and Daughter. And it’s the last time they’ll ever see each other as such…
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why?
I do remember when this series used to be about people just standing around and talking, and then it progress to the meaning of why we are all here. Red vs blue is my childhood and I will forever miss it RIP ❤️V💙
the blond girl i beleive is his daughter not his wife bc he said " you are my greatest creation " meaning he's her father right ?
Man...With Rooster Teeth shutting down, all I can think is "Perhaps the next time around..."
The fact that Carolina tries to be angry at him but physically can't always hits me hardest.
It's her dad, so no matter how many bad things he's done, she can't forget that.
Tylor Harworth thats her dad?
Jonathan Gonzalez yes it is, her parents are The Director and Texas (Allison).
Tylor Harworth Not Texas(Beta) Just allison
It shows so much character development. A season ago she'd come in there and do the deed herself. But after seeing him, broken and alone, she sees her Father. A broken man and she wants to hurt him, she really tries to hate him in that moment, but when she looks back into his eyes, she realizes that there is NOTHING she can do than what's worse than what he has done to himself.
Church's speech when he turns into all the AI is probably my favourite bit in all of RvB
+MediocreLeague and then he 'died' and everything got even worse.
Agreed, I had chills.
Agreed
Sleeveless yes god yes
"He was brilliant"
"And we trusted him"
"But he lied to us he twisted"
"AND TORTURED US AND USED US"
"He manipulated everyone for his own perposes"
"AND FOR WHAT...
FOR THIS.....THIS....
SHADOW"
Literally my favorite part of rvb history
The scene where they show the Director's face is the saddest for me. It's not the face of an egotistical, arrogant villain. It's the face of a man who has lost the most important person in the world to him, and only kept losing more as he tried to fix it until all that was left was a sad, broken shell who had nothing left.
But it was not worth it. He killed the Freelancers and the A.I
+Epsilon Smith I never said any of it was worth it. I simply said I found it sad.
***** It might be both. He feels terrible that he's ruined any chance of repairing his relationship with his daughter (Carolina), and he feels like a failure, as he can never truly bring back Alison, the woman he loved above all else.
true that.tats the face of extreme loss and sadness.
+joseph bonzo lol .that's* srry
"You were my greatest creation"
"I don't know what I am, but I do know this: I'm more than just a copy of you. I'm better than you."
"...I wasn't speaking to you".
And now I've got something in my eye.
This speaks volumes to me. As a man who experienced enough trauma to lose his memories and become and an amnesiac, I can understand the obsession with piecing together the shattered fragments of one's past that possessed the Director, and by extension Alpha and Epsilon until the latter finally ended the chain of self-destruction. I realized that my obsession with my past was destroying me and everyone around me, and only by watching this series did I truly understand what that meant. I may not be much more than a collection of somebody else's memories, but I do know this: I'm not just a copy of my original self; I'm better than him.
When you lose those memories, you effectively become a different person, as memories are what we are based on; experiences that build us over time. The Alpha, the original me before the trauma, may effectively be gone, so let's see how the Epsilon version of me does.
I love this series so much because of how much I personally relate to the story.
Me:and what do you have caught in your eyes?
You:TEARS!!!!!
I think he meant Carolina....
Play it again, F.I.L.I.S.
Carolina was the daughter of Church and Tex.
Allison had a role in this final encounter, as well. My favourite bit:
Director: *Begins to look up, but fails to do so, his face crumpling in despair*
Allison: "And don't worry. You'll see me again."
Director: *Looks up to meet his own eyes in their daughter*
Stranger Danger “Ready?” “Just a bit more time...”
'don't say goodbye, I hate goodbyes'
Probably one of the saddest ways to end a season.
@@ScottThomasKelley And yet it also speaks volumes because that fear broke the Director since he didn't get to say goodbye to Allison before she died. I can imagine it isn't fun, but it hurts more when you realize how that's what broke him the most, and why Director Church wanted to bring Allison back-- it wasn't just to mend his heart. He wanted to tell her "Goodbye", just like Church/Epsilon got to with Tex/Beta.
@@ScottThomasKelley I SWEAR, I can hear Allison saying stuff VERRRRY low volume in the background. 1:47 “Carolina.” 1:55 “Carolina.”
Edit: Also, I love how when Carolina kisses his forehead and forgives him, moving forward and starting new, the video restarts with Allison saying, “Ready?” This scene, nay the whole complexity of the show that went over my head as kid, is what makes this show so heart-wrenchingly beautiful
It amazes me that this show evolved from a joke show about the basis for PVP Halo into a multi-faceted, in depth, emotionally driven narrative on the human condition, warfare, greed, and growth. It truly shows the best of everything. I need to go cry now.
Tytarion Daggeron agreed. Though the newest seasons aren’t as good.
They are still great
@@kristiankepley5944 To be fair, that's kinda to be expected. Do I/we ever want RVB to end? No, as we all enjoy it, but there comes a point where there's no more story to tell. No more character growth to show, no more emotionally driven content, no direction for the story to go without retelling it. Eventually, the show will either reach a point where it can't progress any further, or the content quality diminishes to the point the fans are no longer invested.
RT used to be able to do that but they seem to have lost that skill over time
Happy Bicyclist RVB should have ended with the church speech
@@djwagner7940 Your words are truth though they carry a sting of reality.
when she takes her helmet off, her expression is angry, but quickly softens and expresses sadness, and betrays a hint of pity. that. that right there is the best example of how good this show is
when she takes her helmet off, her brows are furrowed and mouth is scowled, this might be a sign that she is angry
Was. How good it was
It’s the fact she had to see the video of her deceased mom, and her depressed dad all in one it’s all hard to take in. Which resulted in the rational decision to let go. I love the detail of this show it’s amazing
@@LetsPlayArcaniumAnd how she HATED her father for basically abandoning her for his obsession, but we see how Carolina saw hate only would make more hate, and that she also got to see that while Director Church did some horrible shit that he was just a broken man who was at the end of it all, and she pitied him because she must have seen some of herself for how broken she was due to his actions and her mom’s death as well.
Response from a fan: The director’s story was tragic. He wasn’t cut out to be a soldier which meant he wasn’t there to protect Allison. He started a program centered around bringing Allison back through the use of AI technology, but it failed and resulted in countless deaths. His obsession with bringing her back lead him to ignore Carolina.
His only daughter turned into a weapon whose primarily goal was to excel in every way possible just to get his attention. Not to mention he fragmented the AI unit that was based off himself through rigorous torture. After all that, he never realized that he couldn’t get her back because in the end she was destined to lose. He gave up everything just for the chance to see her again and in the end all he had left was a recording of her.
But because of what his daughter last left him. He may yet see Allison once more.
*Soldier
I found this the saddest scene in RvB because instead of seeing a cold and heartless villain; I saw man who was broken and hurt from losing his wife and daughter.
An old man weary from a mind more filled with memory than it is with hope.
He didn't lose his daughter, Carolina, but instead most of her trust and respect.
@@ScottThomasKelley Something he could never get back. He was alone, which in the end is what drove him to end his own life. He had no purpose in the world anymore, and was doomed in the end.
Ok
His wife, he lost for reasons he couldn’t control. And his daughter he lost trying to control them anyway.
"He was brilliant and we trusted him but he lied to us! he twisted and tortured us, and used us,manipulated us for his own purposes and for what!?! for this..this...shadow!?!" that speech fucking hits me deep
+BlacKing500 Ikr every time
Epsilon: he was... Delta: Brilliant, and... Theta: we trusted him, but...... Gamma: he lied to us. He twisted, and.... Omega: tortured us. And used US! Sigma: and manipulated us for his own purposes, and for what? For this?! This... Shadow?! In order of A.I. Personality: logic, trust, deceit, rage, ambition.
same
I like the director, cause all he cared about in the end was the love of his life , and I think that is beautiful, to put her ahead of anyone
....Including his own daughter who only wanted to matter to him.
I can't imagine a worse hell.... Being so close to your goal. A goal that was all you ever wanted. But knowing you failed. And you will die a failure. Hated, unloved, alone, and for nothing.... Pulling that trigger would be both the hardest and easiest thing ever.
Why you this to me, now I am depressed thinking about this.
I don't think it was about him ever being close to anything at all. It felt more like he was trying and not getting anywhere and each time being a repeat of the same mistake over and over again. The same pain being afflicted to the point he thought he was getting somewhere when he couldn't even realize he had stopped long ago. in the end all he could do is accept the one greatest thing in his life and finally end his suffering that had made others feel the same pain of losing another person that they cared about.
REEE Autistic scream of all the time
Reminds me of Sisyphus, in a way.
He wasn't unloved but he was definitely alone.
these guys need to be in Hollywood making movies holy crap it's crazy how they turned a fun halo parody into a grade A story with complex characters.
+bj milburn if you can write comedy you can write drama. Vince gilligan said that and he is the king of drama.
john gun Their parody now has a better story than Halo has ever had
Crazy Ambasador ikr
Ok
With how things are now? Hell no
The entirety of the “He was brilliant and we trusted him” rant is one of the strongest bits of writing/voice acting in the entire series. Only Epsilon’s speech at the end of the Chorus arc can even compare.
As bad as the surrounding content is, Caboose's goodbye to church is also really, really good.
"It's gonna be okay. It's all gonna be ok. It's gonna be okay."
You can hear him choking on his own attempt to comfort himself, and it kills me. It's not ok, but it's gonna be.
@@handgun559 A year late but I've never watched past the Chorus arc since it was so well done and I don't mind an open ending but you have me curious, is the quote you mentioned from the later seasons?
@@zachgullerman3183 It's from the climax of season 15. People REALLY rag on it, for oft good reason, but I'd say it and 17 are the better parts of often low quality content simply for the amount of good *character* moments and development they have.
Tbh, 15-17 all have good character stuff, it's just that they're so bizarrely written that brings it down. That, and 16 sort of fucks with Tucker's amazing character development and regressed him a fair bit.
Though it *does* have absolutely fucking KILLER Washington and *Donut* content, so make of that what you will. (17 also has even more good Donut content)
I say give it all a try, even if you end up hating it all, you'll still have some good character content from trying at all.
Don't watch Zero, and I say that as an extremely open minded individual when it comes to quality. Zero is genuinely some of the most ridiculous and *blandly* awful content I've ever seen.
If 16 is the one people don't like cause of it's weird elements, Zero is the antichrist that's awful without any of the unintentional comedy in a bad season.
Zero literally undoes an UBER emotional and well written climatic and *significant* character moment with (previously) PERMANENT repercussions.
...For a microwave joke. And a very bad one at that.
TLDR: The Caboose speech mentioned is from season 15, give it + 16 and 17 a try, avoid Zero like it's the Black Death.
343, _THIS_ is how you write an AI story.
Tell them! How to write it!
CRWBY, THIS is how you write an emotionally engaging story with detailed characters.
@@matth6163 😔 Yeah
Why do people hate halo 4 so much? I genuinely liked it!
@@bluecoolfilms1940 because its gameplay was shit
"Was the project a success? Did you find what you were looking for?" "No, although I believe I came very close..." "Don't say goodbye I hate goodbyes" "If only there was a way" I'm a cold person, I don't cry much but... This scene got me.... It got me good with the final scen with the door closing......
Yeah same. I don't cry almost ever but this got me teary eyed
same...
I'm sorry but you be tripping
Ok
I dont know what is more sad, the fact that the director dies without completing his goal (and that filss dies with him), the fact that Carolina had to watch her father go through this, or the fact that every A.I. within Epsilon came out just to talk dorectly to the director to tell him how much they resented him.
Jack Ardoin There's one happy thing about this scene though.
It shows that after everything Gamma, Omega and especially Sigma did, Church made peace with them and accepted them as parts of himself.
Jack Ardoin The second one.
And what's worse is when you realize Hargrove illegally restored Fillis to work for him and could clearly tell by her voice that she is not happy and utterly depressed
Ok
When all the AIs came out I felt their pain and the sadness it hit
This whole scene is so powerful, from Church's speech, to Carolina's inability to be mad at The Director, to the viewer's realization that the guy who has tormented the teams for the past 10 seasons, both directly and indirectly, is just a broken old man, this sole moment is a big part of the reason I think Red Vs. Blue is, literally, the best show ever, of all time.
And they make a way better A.I. story than 343.
I really love the fact that after all this Maticulous planning, after moving each chess piece with caution, after moving hell on earth to accomplish his goal he finally realized all those pieces were people lives he was sacrificing and that goal he was trying to accomplish was impossible because the person he was trying to save was long dead and all was doing dragging around her corpse and desiccating her image ask because he got trapped in this feeling of no one will ever love me like she did and I can't go on living. I've seen people lose wives and it's the most tragic thing ever. Only difference is he had the resources and knowledge to make everyone as messed up as he was
The best part is the reveal. No impassioned speeches, no accusations between Carolina and the Director, just a man seeing his eyes staring back at him from a woman who can't bring herself to kill him.
I just realized when The director said "You were my greatest creation" he was talking to Agent Carolina. I don't know why but that blows my kind that he's her father.
mind*
I knew she was his daughter after the face reveal but I thought his "greatest creation" that he was talking about was Tex or alpha church
Does that also technically make Church her father?
@@jeramahia123 Nah I believe it’s more of a brother sister relationship. Since they were both creations of the director.
I like how post tex church refered to tex like carolinas mother tho
This right here is what makes Red Vs Blue so great. One second it's middle school level humor and the next, it's a broken man putting a gun to his own head after he finally comes to the realization that he can't save his wife.
To the realization that he couldn’t bring back his wife and that his greatest creation was actually his own daughter
I loved this scene.
before this I saw the director as a hardass and a typical antagonist, but in this scene it showed how far he's fallen. he's no longer the cynical badass director of project freelancer, he's a tired old man. a tired old man who spent his final years trying desperately to bring back the one he loved, or more accurately, the one who loved him. he kept failing and failing and failing, creating dozens of failed copies, none of which resembled the original, and in the end he was left defeated, watching a clip of his love over and over, wasting away in front of the screen, lamenting what could have been, all he'd lost, all he'd betrayed in years gone past.
and then, his daughter comes in....
Yeah, like Tex is the Beta AI, and since she was based on the memory of Allison's death split from the Alpha since no matter how you look at it despite the Director bringing her back, she is always going to fail as that's what she's based on.
“Don’t say goodbye. I hate goodbyes”
*right in the feels*
One of my favorite things about this scene is how when each of the A.I come out to talk they speak about exactly what their fragment was.
Delta(the logic): “he was brilliant.”
Theta(the trust): “and we trusted him.”
Gamma( the deceit): “he lied to us, he twisted and”
Omega(the anger): “tortured us and used us.”
Sigma( the ambition. And the one who also manipulated everyone): “manipulated us, for what? For this shadow!”
Then after it says shadow, it also goes back to epsilon (the memory) the shadow of the alpha.
It makes the scene both that much more depressing and interesting.
All these years later i still miss church ie epsilon
Never thought about that
"You were my greatest creation" It all makes sense now he meant how his daughter Carolina.
+Fazin s Allison is Carolina's mom, the director is Carolina's dad. It's really bad when you think about it because that means (during the Freelancer flashback) you basically had the daughter fighting the mother in hopes of getting her father's approval (Carolina fighting Tex).
+RenegadeElite101 Tex was just a AI then like church she died on the mission in the video the director was watching that was the last time he seen her
Nichols,zigzag26731 Rainville True but she was an AI based on the real person, and according to the Director's POV she was basically the real thing. We can see this at the end of Season 7 (I think) during the final communication between the Director and Commissioner. The Commissioner tells the Director that he will be charged and imprisoned for the crimes he committed against the Alpha AI and the Director responds with (and I paraphrase) "while we have many laws that punish the injuries we inflict on each other, we have no such laws on the horrors we inflict on ourselves." Meaning that he believed he wouldn't go to jail because the Alpha AI was based on himself, and that meant (in the Directors POV) only he was being tortured and there are no laws for torturing yourself. If the director does indeed believe that the Alpha is basically himself then he likely believes Tex to be his long dead wife in all ways but one. She wasn't perfect and he only had himself to blame (both him actually and the Alpha AI).
+RenegadeElite101 I know but he never got her right that's why he never stopped she wants entirely Alison
+Nichols,zigzag26731 Rainville wasn't not wants
"You were my greatest creation..."
"I don't know what I am. But I'm more than just a copy of you... I'm better than you."
"I was not speaking to you."
Well, there I go. Time to roll into a ball and cry for an hour.
His daughter, Carolina. I know now! I didn't when I first watched this. Damn. This scene was much more...emotional then when I first saw it now. Damn dude.
SilverSoldier90 If the director said that to Carolina's face, I feel like he would still get the same answer
He was brilliant, and we trusted him... But he lied, to us. He twisted, and tortured, us. And used us! Manipulated us for his own purposes, and for what!? For this? This... shadow?
I absolutely love how red vs blue evolved. It went from a comedy to a drama and it is totally earned. The change was gradual but steady and retained the soul that made red vs blue special. I especially love how seamlessly the comedy and serious moments were blended. It's genius
I love how each AI appears when he’s talking about what they represent. And that we finally see the Director’s eyes. And the that last bit of confirmation of Carolina and the Director’s relation.
If you pay attention to bit with Epsilon, when he goes into the psuedo-fragments..
Each A.I. says something about the aspect they represented.
Delta - Logic
Theta - Trust
Sigma - Manipulation
Gamma - Lying
etc.
Omega-Rage
+Valkrae OMG i could never think of Delta and Theta saying thing is such a ''angry" manner. Espesialy delta.
Sigma - Creativity.
***** Theta - Kindness? That cant be right have you even seen the show?
Gamma is technically "Deceit."
Such great writing. Makes me wish the Director took a different path. Makes wish he would've let go and just be there for Carolina. Damn it Burnie you are an awesome writer.
This is a powerful scene from one of the best written shows out there. It captures the pain and the grief the Director holds deep in his heart, and he tried to get rid of the pain by bringing back his lost love somehow. Through his efforts, people died, relationships were broken, and some people suffered. The Director's pursuits only led to him becoming a broken man watching the same video file of his lost love over and over again in one last desperate attempt to bring her back. Burnie Burns did a phenomenal job writing Season 10, and it still stands as my favorite season in the series to this day. The seasons after that are okay and Season 13 is looking pretty good already so far, but it won't ever be able to hold a candle to this season. Thanks Burnie Burns!
Beyond brilliant. When epsilon goes through emotions each fragment made up, I've never felt something this close in a show before, after countless hours of watching red vs blue, that is my very favorite moment because of that.
Christopher Champion Yes, oh yes. One of my favorite scenes that gives me the chills every time is when we see the Alpha get tortured. When the Director lies to him telling him that Tex died, the Alpha's pain at the news gives me serious chills. Again, it's brilliant work by Burnie Burns
ImperialMan100 what if wash sacrifices himself for someone
Blazeplaysgames I wonder who that'd be if he did...Maybe Carolina since they worked together during their freelancer days. Or maybe (and it's crazy that I'm saying this) Tucker, which motivates Tucker to be the leader that he needs to be.
In season 10 after they found the director and before church and carolina were going to announce the news to everyone caboose did say, "huuuh, You and agent washington are taking your relationship to the next level." I think thats how he said it. XD
Church's speech brought tears to my eyes. Real emotions.
"Don't say goodbye... I hate goodbyes."
--RvB when it was removed from netflix
What's so messed up is that during the speech, each AI Fragment shows up during their respective parts. Delta shows up at 'Brilliant', Theta at 'Trusted', Gamma at 'Lied', Omega at 'Tortured', and Sigma at 'Manipulated'. Epsilon only comes back when he says that the Director needs to pay, because he's the only one who remembers the hell that they all went through. That's great visual storytelling.
you ever wonder why we're here?
It's one of life's greatest mysteries isn't it?
Aye Forgot oh yeah...
Aye Forgot no
+TheAwesomeHyperon are you sure
Theta67 yes
A few days ago, I decided to check out RvB, to see what all the fuss was about, and out of respect for Monty, as I heard some of his best animations were included in the series. I assumed it was just a throwaway comedy series that gave RT their start enough for them to expand to other stuff. I'm usually into the more in-depth and serious series', like RWBY, so I never thought I'd particularly like this.
Now, here I am, with no laughs left to laugh, and no tears left to cry, now waiting for the next episode of not one, but two of my favorite web series', both by RT.
If only you’d see Rooster Teeth’s fate now
@@jamebeckhusen9030 Well, I can't deny there've been some pretty big bumps, but not enough to outweigh my love for the series. I admit I lost interest in RvB after Season 15, but even if I never get back into it, I'll always have those 15 Seasons worth of memories. And as for RWBY, Volume 7 was the best the show has been since Volume 3, and I'm hyped for Volume 8 in a month or two here.
i feel like the series should've ended here, but im glad it din't.
@@imvictorhugs ok
@@myles3856 i regret what i said
Yeah Church he was obviously talking about the pistol
LOL
74hydrosport he was actually talking about Carolina because he is Carolina's dad
Hellspawn Master It was a joke
Tyto the Owl梟 Some people don't have that filter
@@thedevil1295 r/woooosh
One of the deepest moments of Red vs Blue, and I love the fact that they respected our intelligence enough to let us figure out the connection between Carolina and the Director on our own instead of beating us over the head with it which in my opinion, makes this reveal so much more dramatic and mindblowing
Great writing always delivers emotion and messages without vocal confirmation. These days people are always handed information clearly. Irl, its the subtle noticeable placements that can tell a story
"Don't say good bye...I hate good bye"
It's been years since this first came out, and even know. Hearing that line chokes me up everytime
Wow. I know that what makes Red and Blue such a hit is that it is the opposite of the Halo stories in many ways. I mean, none of these guys act like Master chief at all, and that's a good thing. But, it needs moments like these, which make it so much more than comedy. It makes it a real adventure.
Dont need to go over bored with it, my heart cant take much more feel train hits x.x...
When Carolina says "Church" before he rants, you can hear the pain in her voice. All that she's been through, all that she's lost, all he put her through. When she takes off her helmet and looks at him in the eyes, the pain in his eyes kills me. She can't be mad at him, and neither can we. We are mad at him for all he put them through, but we feel so sorry for him. He just wanted Allison back. When he says "you were my greatest creation" and responds to Church with "I wasn't speaking to you." We all just die inside. And Carolina, she understood why the Director did it. But she just wishes he hadn't.
I love how Carolina kisses him on the cheek. Even after all everything he did, she forgave him.
She kissed him on the forehead
Also idk if all this time she truly wanted to kill him for project freelancer or mostly to kill him and free him from this self torture. She watched her father crumble from a brilliant man to a shell while she also lost all her comrades...
I don't think she forgave him, but .... I think she still loved him.
She didn’t forgive but she did let go
This is one of the saddest and most profound scenes of anything I've ever watched. it only made it worse when Epsilon turned into the other AI. To carry all those memories and all that pain, it all came out in one shining moment.
Loss and pain can drive a man to do what he may have once thought he'd never do, and this man was a victim to it. It became his weakness, and was not strong enough to let go, and the scary part is, any person can fall victim to this, just the right place to hit in the heart, and the world around them crumbles down. This man is what happens to those who do.
Director: Hello Epsilon you came all this way to see me?
Epsilon: I'm here to remember what you've done! Someone has to!
Carolina: Church...
Epsilon: Not all of us got off Scott free Carolina.
Delta: He was brilliant -
Theta: - and we trusted him -
Gamma: - but he lied to us, twisted and -
Omega: - tortured us, and used us -
Sigma: - manipulated us for his own evil purposes! And for what? For this? This shadow?
Epsilon: He needs to pay
Well that was a moment...
Play it again F.I.L.S.S.
Perhaps the next time around.
Rest in peace Rooster Teeth
The part the gets me was when he asks for the pistol
But the worst is all the AI coming out and how they felt
The part where Epsilon rants and turns into all of the fragments is what always gets me. Alpha's is one of, if not the most tragic stories in all of RvB.
Through every TV show or movie or anime that I've ever watched, no one scene will ever hit me as hard as this does. from the monster of a director being nothing but a broken shell, to carolina being physically unable to be angry at her father all to the directors and fillis (yes I probably spelt that wrong) last words. thank you RVB for this amazing show.
Saaaame. Anime ranks above tv shows ans movies in terms of...well everything, but especially feels, but this scene is maybe my favourite in the history of media. All stages of grief and anger are all in this one episode. This story speaks everything. such incredible writing
Out of all the heart wrenching things I’ve seen I can’t believe this is the one that lead me to break down crying.
"You were my greatest creation."
"I don't know what I am. But i do know this. I'm more than just a copy of you. I'm better than you."
"I wasn't speaking to you."
person: but that show is about people standing around talking why do u like it
me:*"don't on say goodbye I hate goodbyes" "we trusted him" ~Carolina kisses director on the cheek~ "itsts been a pleasure working with you sir"* yeah...guys standing around in a canyon
She kissed him on the forehead dude. Way more loving
the saddest thing about this scene is that even in the end neither The director nor Carolina could address each other as family. they stuck to formalities of project freelancer
You were Brilliant...
Thank you, RT
The worst part is that when your learning about the director prior to this, you become angry with him, but then when you see those sad eyes filled with so much sadness and pain, you just can't help but feel sorrow and pity for him. And that's all you can feel for him and nothing else.
it's sad to lose a loved one. But the dead are gone. and cannot come back. They exist only in memories, and in memories they should stay. Instead of looking for a way to restore the past, with Allison the director should have been looking toward the future, for Carolina.
i have watched this too many times, but i only just realized that at the very end he reached and grabbed the pistol.. adding more depresion to this scene
OH FUCK YOU'RE RIGHT
yeah its hard to miiss i guess. you can mistake hes rubbing his head or something but no hes probs going to shoot himself
This is one of the top 10 saddest moments in RVB and seeing Carolina Dad one last time. Number 1's saddest death in the RVB series is Church Death in season 13.
Same eye color.... "You were my greatest creation..... I wasn't speaking to you." Yeah that's her dad
A decade later, this still makes me cry hard. It actually hurts even more now because I've lost a loved one after this came out and know just how hard it would be to resist this kind of temptation.
This was the first time that I ever saw a sympathetic villain, and is so far the best. They made me cry over the death of the series antagonist, and that is truly incredible.
After seeing The Director's face and his expression was heartbreaking since he was trying to bring back the person he loves and I wouldn't consider him a villain because of that.
ya know, its even extra tragic when you realize church was based on the director..so in essence, he was essentialy torturing himself
This is fucking sad. I nearly cried at this scene when I re-watched it, as I actually understood it's value the second time around, and the lessons it taught. It's not easy to make me cry. This was a huge turn of events in the storyline for me, where the villain that brought such doom and destruction to all of Caronlina's peers realized his faults and was confronted for it, and left alone in a state of depression. He knew himself he had lost everything; His work, his wife, his daughter's respect. His creations. "You were my finest creation" was a sad quote for me when I realized suddenly that the Director was Agent Carolina's father, and Agent Texas her mother. But this reaches an answer for the question our Freelancers have been asking themselves, all this time. Now she knows why she's here. And she knows what she has to do. She knows where her loyalties lay, and now she has the freedom to protect her newfound "lost causes".
"You were my greatest creation."
That line still gets me every time.
And in one scene, years of character development come to a head for Church.
(edited) I use this clip sometimes to remind myself not to focus on a toxic past relationship. The Director is so obsessed with resurrecting the past. Epsilon doesn't let go of the past. Carolina is the one who finally accepts that they both need to move on and not let their trauma consume them, and Epsilon realizes that he's better than the person responsible for his suffering.
Sadly, I suppose rewatching a clip from a decade old web show for comfort is similar to The Director rewatching a clip of his deceased wife for comfort. But, what Church and Carolina say is important.
"You need to let go. Your past doesn't define who you are, just gives you the starting point for who you're going to be."
That bit hits the deepest.
Oh wow, you liked this? I'm surprised you can see it years later. :)
This series has made me tear up more than any other I’ve seen recently
I think I've learned the most life lessons from Red Vs Blue lately...Aint that somethin
+Makoto Diclonius >relevant to other fans of rwby
lop90ful1 Also true
Makoto Diclonius A bitch?
Aint that a bitch?
@@malice5863 It is seeing as how lately RT has been less about teaching those lessons and more about being a clusterfuck....I mean have you seen RVB Zero...it's like Fast and Furious the puppet show for cryin out loud
While I do think everything the Director did was unforgivable, I can't judge him for it. Who's to say we won't do everything in our power to the impossible such as bring the dead back?
I relate so hard to the director now. Years later and I've rewatched this clip hundreds of times.
A decade later.. and the Directors actions make so much more sense to me... and that.. scares me..
This scene is the saddest in Red vs Blue history, because the Director was built up to be this cold, calculating, evil man, but here, all we see is a tired, broken old man, who just missed the woman he loved. Everything he'd done, all the lives destroyed... all of it, because he couldn't bear to live without her. For all the villains I've seen over the years, the Director is the only one I truly pity, because he did what he did not out of greed, or hate, or ambition. He did it for the simplest of reasons.
He loved Allison.
I can't believe they made me sob for this ruthless son of a bitch.
Me at first: Oh, boy, this show is hilarious! I'm glad it's just simple entertainment for me!
Me now: Ok, just so I can mentally survive for the rest of the week, I need to look at other stuff so this show will stop making me feel things and OH GOOOOOOD MY EMOTIONS
Like all of us were so ready for this confrontation of the eeevvvvil director, only to reveal so much pain and everyone watching this scene could not hate him but was instead, heart broken for him. In this one scene, of clever machinima. Such a broken family, you cant help but feel for every character in this room (ofc including FILSS
Remember when RVB was a profound show about a man going through the worst thing most can imagine and failing to help anyone, not even himself? Yeah, that was RvB
Think about this too- when each fragment comes out to talk about resenting him, those are fragments of a copy of himself- it’s a clone of his own consciousness proclaiming how terrible of a person he is. A whole new kind of self-hate.
"I'm here to remember what you've done!"
"But these memories are also holding me back..."
Epsilon really was incredible
Something I haven't seen anyone really talk about is Carolinas advice to Church. "You need to let go. You can't let your past define you. It just gives you the starting point of who you're going to be." Is my favorite advice of all time. I have used it so many times in my life, especially right now as I am going through my own hardship. Love this show!
Facts. Another favorite of church's speech is when he went into the memory unit. " a great love is like a good memory. "
Even though I haven't seen RvB in years, this scene will never not make me cry. In my opinion, this will always be the most emotional scene in the series.
The Red vs Blue series is amazing, but this is the most brilliant scene they ever did.
1:47 . That moment finalizes so much character development for Carolina for me. She went from someone who wanted to do the very best she could no matter the cost, even if that ulterior motive was petty revenge. But when she sees the man who she feels is worthy of death, she realizes that there is nothing she can do to him that is worse than what he has already done to himself and all she can feel is pity for the man. It's why she tries, really hard to be angry at him, but when she looks back at him, her rage and hate melts into pity and sympathy for him and why she kisses him on the forehead and leaves him the pistol instead of putting the bullet in his head herself.
Somehow, I turned a quote from this was scene into a motivational quote,
"You last doesn't define who you are, it just gives you the starting point to who you're going to be"
Why did it take me years to figure out that when he said "You were my greatest creation." He was talking about Carolina. I was so confused for years.
I've probably watched this seen a hundred times and still Epsilons speech to the director gets me. It's not just the meaning behind each fragment taking over different segments but also that as Epsilon was one of the last AI fragments formed, and as he was the memory, then he would remember what the Alpha was put through to make the other fragments. That is what gets me with this. His anger isn't just born from his own suffering or the Alpha but everyone who the director used in his goal of bringing back "This shadow."
I feel like Church's speech there could be used in context of the relationship between the RvB fans and Rooster Teeth, only like this:
*"They were brilliant, and we trusted them. But they lied to us, they twisted and tortured us. And used us! And manipulated us for their own purposes! And for what!? For this? This.......shadow!?"*
“He was brilliant (turns into delta) and we trusted him (turns into theta) but he lied to us (turns into gamma)! he twisted and tortured us (turns into omega), and used us, manipulated us (turns into sigma) for his own purposes and for what!?! for this..this...shadow!?!" The thing I love about this season is the small details, each time epsilon lists what the director did, he changes to that ai that matches that aspect. Truly amazing
Rest in Pieces Church. Gone but not forgotten
"Don't worry, you'll see me again" That's why he wanted the pistol. Not out of cowardice or a way to escape punishment. He just wants to see Allison again.
I don’t think I’ve ever shared a characters pain. Church delivered…
Fucking years later and this scene still hits right in the gut , the whole thing. They did more in a animated show than I've seen million dollar movies and shows try. Even 343 hasn't really got to this point or the final scene of Church
'don't say goodbye, I hate goodbyes'
Probably one of the saddest ways to end a season.
Not only that but how he points the gun at his head really makes you think of the shit he's gone through.
This is the story of a woman who went to war but never came back.
This is the story of her husband who could not move on and tried to bring her back, only to create a copy of them, making them live this nightmare again.
This is the story of their daughter who did her best for her father to notice her and be proud, but ended up breaking the vicious circle.
"He was brilliant,
and we trusted him!
But he lied to us, he twisted,
and tortured us, and used us!
Manipulated us for his own purposes, and for what? For this? This...shadow?
He needs to pay."
Sweet mother of mercy memory lane is really hitting me hard, especially this emotional part. God damn I wasn’t prepared for this again.
The scene with the A.I fragments always chokes me up. All those memories and the pain they carry. Would you do whatever it took to bring a loved one back? The Director isn't a villain, or a criminal mastermind, just a man who wanted to be with his loved one. Damn. RvB... Bravo...
I can’t believe it took a DEATH BATTLE video for me to realize the real reveal in this scene
I know this has been discussed as both canon possibility and headcanon for quite some time now, but I believe this scene among others hold STRONG evidence that Agent Carolina’s first name actually is Carolina. Her final exchange with her father really seals it for me. “Agent Carolina?” “Yes, Director” “Would you be so kind as to leave me your pistol?” “Thank you, Carolina” “Goodbye, Sir” Alone in that room with only himself, her, and Epsilon, knowing these would be the last words to his daughter, what other moment would he have to call her by her real name? And further, this makes the next lines even more impactful, not just in the reveal, but in the subtext and details. “You were my greatest creation”. He wasn’t thanking her for giving him her pistol. He was thanking her for being the woman he had always hoped to resurrect. He was thanking her for rising above the man he had become and choosing to let go. She had accomplished what he never could. And he wasn’t angry or disappointed, he was proud, and thankful. And that’s why she left him to his final moments on his own accord. It’s why Carolina from that point idolized her mom, and sought to uphold her legacy. It’s why she chooses to share that moment with church at the very end of Season 10, even though the two are clearly aware of eachother’s awareness of the lack of ambiguity in their “ambiguous” conversation. I could go on all day about this, but I figure that’s a good spot to leave this. Red vs blue never fails to fascinate me with the details that are written into the story, just as intricate as the details put into the comedy of the early seasons. The more I rewatch and think about this show, the more I am treated to the quality of its detail and carefully crafted love. Seriously one of the greatest shows ever written, and I really REALLY value complex and well thought out media. Its amazing to me that one of the most paradigm shifting pieces of media for me in that department has been a machinima, but good writing never fails to impress me in the forms of media it can exist within. I just hope this show is appreciated generations down the line with how much it can teach people about their own lives. RVB is a serious case study in masterful writing and depiction of the human condition. The fact that even some of us get to experience its brilliance and appreciate it is good enough for me…
The irony that the deception ai fragment (Gamma if I remember right) came out when Epsilon said "He lied to us"
The thing that’s crazy, is when Carolina takes off her helmet and the Director takes off his glasses and they look at each other, that’s real. They’re not looking at each other as Superior and Lackey, they’re looking at each other as Humans, specifically, Father and Daughter.
And it’s the last time they’ll ever see each other as such…
I never would have believed this series would make me cry.