not gonna lie, im severly impressed by how much better the turtle is performing, I am quite a good player in armoured td's and honestly I would have guessed that the ts-5 would have performed better overal, it is a bit faster, better armour, especially against 250-290 pen shells compaired to turtle and higher pen (up to 50mm more pen on gold) and even a bit better camo. where as I feel the turtles only advantage would be gun depression and traverse and full aim accuracy (ts5 has better dispersion values and aim times though). Please tell me what else you can do with the turtle than you cant with the ts5 because i dont get :o and honestly i still love the tortoise more than these two combined hahaha
@@Kel.the.Bakker the thing is that turtle is a lot more flexible than ts5 and it can also punish you harder for your mistakes due to its reload allowing you to permatrack anything unlike ts5 whish reload can be beaten by repair perks. Also The gun handling and mobility of both are way too similar after turtle buffs to even care about comparing them, ts5 is a little bit faster and turtle has better engine power but it is also true that turtle beats ts5 dispersion by a lot. i think both tanks deserve 5 stars, both are punishing bricks in the battlefield, ts5 shines due to how easy to play it is and turtle due to how flexible it can be (flexible for what it is, not like a medium). The problem with turtle is that you really need to know what you are doing.
@@alejandrozapataq Oh no denying that they are very similair in alot of ways indeed, im just surprised by the huge difference in scores. And im fairly certain I simply play better in a tortoise and ts5 than a turtle (skill issue) but also when i play against either of them, i really never got the feeling the turtle did so much better and usually im kinda okay at guessing avg scores on tanks, but i was very wrong about this haha. I dont mind being wrong, its just that i cant quite comprehend it i guess ;p maybe i need to play a bit more turtle haha
I've been wanting to get Turtle 1 for a long time, even assembled a crew with zero perks for Badger, but I thought it would appear in Trade In and decided to wait. That's why I managed to get it only now. In general, the tank is good, but I expected more, the armor works only under certain conditions, the accuracy of the gun is mediocre at long distances, despite the data in the characteristics, and mobility does not allow you to change direction. The turtle can change the course of battle, and I'm happy with it, but I thought it would be easier to implement.
Skill, you have saved me big time while grinding for the Leopard line. Your site enlightened me and showed me everything I needed for each and every tank I needed to see. Keep up the good work !👍❤️
This TD is very good when you're not surrounded by enemy for that must not attack without anticipate the situation, has very good depression, percist shots, little bit slow but nice to play with.
I kinda want a Turtle. I already got a TS-5 for free during marathon, but this looks better armored. Im not surprised Skil isnt a fan of this tank, i think he prefers more speedy, with camo, so he can flex around the map.
I agree with you about this tank. best part is armor. otherwise I want the other big boy tds like. su130, skorp, . I also enjoy it when you are low tier. I learn more. love you man
27:45 "I am not even angry, I am not even mad..." While his face turns RED. Skill do not hold your emotions! Smack that chair! PS: I read comment down, that someone mention MM dependancy to add into calculation on index,. I also think that is awesome idea.
Turtle makes way more experience than other tanks, its very good to choose for experience missions/marathon Its 330 damage is just low enough for it to be able to permatrack which is one of the best things about it 240 standard pen is very nice, it is a superb tank to use when you only shoot standard and dont use food to save credits The armour is only ok, if you play aggressive and dont give enemy much time to aim they might bounce The armour is not strong like Tortoise, gold ammo usually makes Turtle have no armour dpm + permatrack = gg I have the highest base xp Ive ever done in Turtle slightly over 2000 (shows up as over 3000 because of premium day) And also most kills of any tank Ive done (10) It is a million miles away from dominating like BZ176 though, Skorpion G is probably more competitive tank in terms of damage per game. Turtle only looks OP because of the amount of experience it gets but the actual damage it does is comparable to many other tanks
I think Turtle is actually one of the best if not the best T8 TD in the game right now... The armor hulldown is super strong and the DPM is deadly. And the lack of proper cupola makes it super hard to play against. I think Skill is looking way to hard to find weaknesses because no tank is absolutely perfect in every situation. In so many situations Turtle is better than Skorpion but just one situation where it's the other way around is enough to make it not epic?
5 stars asap. IT Has weakness but .... Dpm and improved speed makes this tank one of best tier VIII premiums... And this tank is hulldown monster on hills
It's a very strong tank. I like both TS-5 and Turtle, but the gun on Turtle feels a bit better with better arc and gun depression. Hulldown it's a beast unless you face very high pen tanks.
Yes you cannot always predict what the enemy players do. Being alone in that position in the last game was realised by the T34 and could get you in a cross fire, but you did well up until then. Whatever tank you were playing, would not have made any difference.
the (lack of) gold pen is what kills the tank for me. this is what makes this mm dependent as its a frontal tank. If you are up against +2 tiers, it has no turret or speed to flank, not enough accuracy to snipe weak spots, not enough armor to tank, so its a bad wimp support. a bit more gold pen would make it bad mm viable
16:00 isn't this for like 99% of premium tanks ? most of them can' t even pen same tier you need to use gold, only advantage these days if pure more credit profit, if you are top tier ofc you will perform better but if you are facing tier 9 or 10 you will be red line camper.. that can be said for other tier 8 premiums as well.. for at least 30 of them lol
That Pearl River battle is just like my average game in my Dicker Max! I wait, nothing happens, I move and after I move to a new location all the action is back at my original location. I can only get 1 MOE simply because of the 15-1 simulator... If I wait at the back and my team push then I often hit next to nothing. If i push then being a slow 'Paper Tank' i become target number 1 once enemy spot me and see a very easy kill. I consider myself just average but knowing when to stay or go is often a paradox and luck.
@@kermitage You can get a lot of bounces, but against most tier 9 tanks, with a decent player, you will get eaten pretty quick. It's a great tank though, super good gun and DPM.
Who would rate this thing 5*? Only noobs. This thing is too MM-dependent. It can bully lower tiers like crazy but playing against higher tiers is a totally different story. When its armor doesn't work, low alpha, low pen, and no turret make both playing in frontline and sniping not effective. Skorpion, SU-130 PM, and all other TDs that have a real TD gun don't suffer the same situation. They are just as effective against higher tiers, making them more consistent.
Skieeeeeeeel! I’m not saying you need to rank Turtle 5 stars, but you need to not hate it… Play with Mobility Improvement (experimental turbo) and it is amazing.
only Turtle who really schould be epic is Kylian Mbappe and no other ): i think my ts-5 is better and this tank deserved to be on daily skill video too
Thank you for your honesty Skill. I bought this tank because people said it was great and I don't like it. It works sometimes but it's just not much fun.
The pen ruins this tank. You're supposed to go up close but even with gold you can't pen anything. Especially with all the fking hulldown tanks in the game
It's a psychological thing, when you have a 400 DMG gun and you lowroll 350-370 you really notice that lowroll because the first number changes and it's more noticeable, but when you have 490-440 and you lowroll 410-420 you don't really care because the first number doesn't change so you don't pay so much attention to it to understand how bad of a low roll the shot was (that's what I think and it would make sense) and it happens to me as well btw
I find all this funny - whenever a premium tank is on offering, some you-tuber (almost all of wot community contributors) is doing a showcase for that tank - thus - pushing for buying of that tank....all the wile talking about how WoT is taking our money and how - he - "X or Y" community contributor, doesn't support this business model....but, keeping on hipping ,indirectly, that tank
For me personally i would change some things in the Turtle index page: I would move armour effectiveness from 5 to 4 since armour is worse than TS 5 based on my experience, i would also raise gun handling to 3 and mobility to 2. The overall rating in my opinion deserves to be 5 because it's a far more versatile tank than for example a TS 5 a T 28 or an AT 15.
I think to be 5 stars it has to still perform well against +2 Turtle 1 just really doesn't, compared to vs +0, even with full gold Maybe that's just me though
Definitely not worth 5 stars. The armor doesn't work against people who press the 2 key and the gold rounds have nothing on the TS-5's gold rounds. No idea why people think this thing is epic
Because it is. Turtle is fairly moron proof, TS-5 is even more moron proof. Turtle requires more thinking but is straight forward. TS-5 requires RRR and left click.
Turtle has 10° of depression, more dpm and hulldown capabilities. I have both, TS-5 and Turtle, and Turtle is straight better, but TS-5 is easier to use and has a lower skill cap. If you play Turtle you need to know the maps and where you can go to maximise it's advantages.
@@madogthefirst but its not idiot proof. There are a ton of new/low skill players that can't make this tank work, and even decent players that will struggle with it. Press 2 and it practically has zero armour, even hull down. Particularly when you mostly see tier 9/10s.
Skill? Can you tell Wargaming to shift from the Stalins era to this world and understand that they can't tell us what to do but customers tell them what to do. During last about 5 years WG has lost their old customers mostly, the best promoting people like SirFoch and like him, one of the best gamers in this ever... If the commercial idea is just to reroll the customers and have all new and start again... yes I can see the point... but there is also something called like reputation and that can last longer than anyone even live so it should be the last moments to kiss goodbye to the long lost Sovient Unions' and communistic paradise never to come and not just to balance with your own goals and deeds, but just show how short lived memomory you have about anything. A very good platform is going 'down under' as we speak and there are a lot of streamers thinking about the same. If WG wants that newcomers aren't frustrated as players with all tanks and 10's of thousands games and just roll over them like no tomorrow, which indeed is not quite entertaining, then what if we had these classes, and it could be defined both how experienced you are, and what IS YOUR AGE and MM would work primarly on this aspect. 3 cathegories at least aka children, teens and adults, but the more prominent one would be under 20 have all what they want and I don't give a fuck, and others can just relax and take a breath and continue playing. NOONE NO ONE WANT*S some shithead children to mess all the games so that thew best games are nowdays during 22.00-about 04.00. OK you superunicums may handle all situations but I do know the difference playing a shy less than 140 000 battles what I am talking about but even before even you Skill start, I have killed you non anonymizefuckmezizer style every sigle time we have met head in head no matter what tanks. QB too many times and DezGamez too...Skill is the only one so far apart late SirFoch who has been a tough nut to break. But if I se a 'celebrity in enemy team, I won't go after him os her, I go where I palnned to go, but if he or she comes there, then be aware. The last time Skill against me on Erlenberg Map with his Bobject 705 A but I had Pz VII we met on the towns river side in the middle between those buildings, but as some do think that the Pz VII isn't that srong, in close quarters it's better than Maus.. way better if just care to angle a bit your tank and hide the flat lower plate or angle it. And you can also ram... and as a taller tank tank you can also just shoot to the roof and its auto pen all the time. It has some weird holes in its matlet that make no sense, but it can be penetrated even from the mantlet, but in some odd places only and not too bifg, other tant that even JGPZE 100 can't penetrate that tanks turre´t even whit the HEAT... you will only hear church bells ringing and no pen. The ony weak point is the triasngle benieath the turret between the hull, frontally, I mean, but good luck to hit that when the other guy will hit you with 560 with very accurate gun. FV 215b used tobe the best heavy back in the days, but now that arnor just cant hold anymore even though the DPM is still amazing for heavy tank and the gun behaves way better than super Conquerirs as I do ofc use the same crew on both. If I have to pick Super Concursus( to those who haven't read latin ) vs FV215b... I would take the later one any day of the week always. The biggest mistake in this game even if it is a pixelgame, is that tanks have been ever used for a purpose other than support in cities nor ever on moutainous areas, They are made for a breaktrouhg in open areas and quick flanking manoveveours from the Germans Bliztgrieg to the 'Desert Storm'.Keepeng this in mind, maps for Tiers up to maybe T8 could be good as they are, but other tan that, this game needs badly bigger maps especially for T10 tanks and those Grand Battle Maps are just right from their sixe, but too few and not always even avaible... For an example: I have in my PzKpfwagon or what ever T10 german light tank over 560m view range without optics even so I use in it instead of optics the commaders vision system that almost demolishes bushes. The bad thing about T10 light tanks is that they are pretty much useless. A good semi fast medium is way better option apart of EBR that is still in good hands after hammerred with nerfs ciós of the all mighty community, who don't see what really is going on and has always their hate on just one simple thing like back in the days to Defender and now, who even cares about a Defender or Chrysler GF? No one! In Simpsomns there where this episode where the 'producers' wanted to ask straight from the children what they wanted and liked. After these and askig the children if they wanted more violence, they shouted yes, when they were asked if they wanted more peace and understanding they shouted yes and in all opposite questions they always answered yes. This is just an animated cartoon, but unfortunately it is too close to be true: People don't even know what they really want. If all this fake is so obvious that even in shows like Simpsons you can mock this society and for a reason, maybe, maybe, it's a time for a time-out and re-think everything? The creator of Simpsons, Matt Groening who started to thse 'Life in Hell' scrips for newspapers and was so sarcastic, sharp, provocative and intellectual was the right time as economy strarted too rise again, so, Matt Groening's 'Life in Hell' was praised the dame time as it wwas mocking almost everyting in not only in western world but in human conseption all together...
Now I see why you don't like the Tank... it tends to go all the way to the left Then goes all the way to the right Then all the way back to the left of map.. seems to have a steering problem or a mind of its own ? LOL I only own the TS5 so can't really make a decision .. But love the TS5 :) THANKS Video :)
Skill has some weird opinions on tanks. Thinks the object 257 is underrated and actually good when it is not good. Also thinks the turtle, a dpm monster with very decent armor, is not very good and it's over rated. Very odd.
This guy is the single weirdest player of this game that I have personally ever seen. When he needs to be aggressive and push forward he hugs the red line like a scared little girly boy - when he needs to be careful and hang back he charges forward like a deranged manic high on cocaine. Weird.
Thx for deleting my comment ... this is a good step forward ... whoever did that you think you help skill by deleting comments of his old viewers ? and for what reason ? i said just it deserve the epic status you like it or not and i dont like it very much perso ? shame and i 'll ask skill in the twich stream for that
Yes Turtle deserved 5 stars, because TS5 is 5 stars, and turtle 1 on average performed better than TS5.
turtle is also a lot more flexible than the ts-5 and even when the ts-5 has armor easier to use the lower plate is massive, very tall and weak
Downgrade TS5 to 4 stars instead
not gonna lie, im severly impressed by how much better the turtle is performing, I am quite a good player in armoured td's and honestly I would have guessed that the ts-5 would have performed better overal, it is a bit faster, better armour, especially against 250-290 pen shells compaired to turtle and higher pen (up to 50mm more pen on gold) and even a bit better camo. where as I feel the turtles only advantage would be gun depression and traverse and full aim accuracy (ts5 has better dispersion values and aim times though). Please tell me what else you can do with the turtle than you cant with the ts5 because i dont get :o and honestly i still love the tortoise more than these two combined hahaha
@@Kel.the.Bakker the thing is that turtle is a lot more flexible than ts5 and it can also punish you harder for your mistakes due to its reload allowing you to permatrack anything unlike ts5 whish reload can be beaten by repair perks.
Also The gun handling and mobility of both are way too similar after turtle buffs to even care about comparing them, ts5 is a little bit faster and turtle has better engine power but it is also true that turtle beats ts5 dispersion by a lot.
i think both tanks deserve 5 stars, both are punishing bricks in the battlefield, ts5 shines due to how easy to play it is and turtle due to how flexible it can be (flexible for what it is, not like a medium).
The problem with turtle is that you really need to know what you are doing.
@@alejandrozapataq Oh no denying that they are very similair in alot of ways indeed, im just surprised by the huge difference in scores. And im fairly certain I simply play better in a tortoise and ts5 than a turtle (skill issue) but also when i play against either of them, i really never got the feeling the turtle did so much better and usually im kinda okay at guessing avg scores on tanks, but i was very wrong about this haha. I dont mind being wrong, its just that i cant quite comprehend it i guess ;p maybe i need to play a bit more turtle haha
I've been wanting to get Turtle 1 for a long time, even assembled a crew with zero perks for Badger, but I thought it would appear in Trade In and decided to wait.
That's why I managed to get it only now.
In general, the tank is good, but I expected more, the armor works only under certain conditions, the accuracy of the gun is mediocre at long distances, despite the data in the characteristics, and mobility does not allow you to change direction.
The turtle can change the course of battle, and I'm happy with it, but I thought it would be easier to implement.
Yeah, I thought it would be better too
It's good, but it's not as super duper amazing as a lot of people say it is
Skill, you have saved me big time while grinding for the Leopard line. Your site enlightened me and showed me everything I needed for each and every tank I needed to see. Keep up the good work !👍❤️
This TD is very good when you're not surrounded by enemy for that must not attack without anticipate the situation, has very good depression, percist shots, little bit slow but nice to play with.
I kinda want a Turtle. I already got a TS-5 for free during marathon, but this looks better armored. Im not surprised Skil isnt a fan of this tank, i think he prefers more speedy, with camo, so he can flex around the map.
I got mine out of storage for upcoming frontline, other than frontline it sits in storage, however, it's still epic
Why? What's your opinion?
I agree with you about this tank. best part is armor. otherwise I want the other big boy tds like. su130, skorp, . I also enjoy it when you are low tier. I learn more. love you man
27:45 "I am not even angry, I am not even mad..." While his face turns RED.
Skill do not hold your emotions! Smack that chair!
PS: I read comment down, that someone mention MM dependancy to add into calculation on index,. I also think that is awesome idea.
0:00 Good mornin sir, first of all I like turtles! and now im ready, its ffing 6 am lets go!
I like it , t8 ht just no hope against him with that dpm , 320 in 5s is insane
Turtle makes way more experience than other tanks, its very good to choose for experience missions/marathon
Its 330 damage is just low enough for it to be able to permatrack which is one of the best things about it
240 standard pen is very nice, it is a superb tank to use when you only shoot standard and dont use food to save credits
The armour is only ok, if you play aggressive and dont give enemy much time to aim they might bounce
The armour is not strong like Tortoise, gold ammo usually makes Turtle have no armour
dpm + permatrack = gg
I have the highest base xp Ive ever done in Turtle slightly over 2000 (shows up as over 3000 because of premium day)
And also most kills of any tank Ive done (10)
It is a million miles away from dominating like BZ176 though, Skorpion G is probably more competitive tank in terms of damage per game.
Turtle only looks OP because of the amount of experience it gets but the actual damage it does is comparable to many other tanks
I think Turtle is actually one of the best if not the best T8 TD in the game right now... The armor hulldown is super strong and the DPM is deadly. And the lack of proper cupola makes it super hard to play against. I think Skill is looking way to hard to find weaknesses because no tank is absolutely perfect in every situation. In so many situations Turtle is better than Skorpion but just one situation where it's the other way around is enough to make it not epic?
5 stars asap. IT Has weakness but .... Dpm and improved speed makes this tank one of best tier VIII premiums... And this tank is hulldown monster on hills
It's a very strong tank. I like both TS-5 and Turtle, but the gun on Turtle feels a bit better with better arc and gun depression. Hulldown it's a beast unless you face very high pen tanks.
I cannot get this tank to work. 82 games, 42% w/r. This is brutal.
Yes you cannot always predict what the enemy players do. Being alone in that position in the last game was realised by the T34 and could get you in a cross fire, but you did well up until then. Whatever tank you were playing, would not have made any difference.
Well done Skill, your videos are always improving!
Noticed the chapters now, nice!
I like turtles
Great review - thanks for showing ‘real’ game play.
Turdle 😂😂
the (lack of) gold pen is what kills the tank for me. this is what makes this mm dependent as its a frontal tank. If you are up against +2 tiers, it has no turret or speed to flank, not enough accuracy to snipe weak spots, not enough armor to tank, so its a bad wimp support. a bit more gold pen would make it bad mm viable
TLDR....
When it works, it works. When it don't, it don't.
4k DPM, yes please. Balance incoming... especially for WG taking wallets 🎉🎉
It got nerved i think. Watch the Modell
But i think iam Idiot cause WG never nerve Premium Tanks i think
16:00 isn't this for like 99% of premium tanks ? most of them can' t even pen same tier you need to use gold, only advantage these days if pure more credit profit, if you are top tier ofc you will perform better but if you are facing tier 9 or 10 you will be red line camper.. that can be said for other tier 8 premiums as well.. for at least 30 of them lol
Turtle is in my top 5 tanks. It's lack of popularity is a big part of that.
That Pearl River battle is just like my average game in my Dicker Max! I wait, nothing happens, I move and after I move to a new location all the action is back at my original location. I can only get 1 MOE simply because of the 15-1 simulator... If I wait at the back and my team push then I often hit next to nothing. If i push then being a slow 'Paper Tank' i become target number 1 once enemy spot me and see a very easy kill. I consider myself just average but knowing when to stay or go is often a paradox and luck.
Turtle deserves 5 stars and the speed and mobility and gun handling should go up 1 star after the buff
Turtle is good but it's also great, I love it, big dpm funny, tier VI love meeting it frfrfr
Definitely a 5-stars tank to me. Also, IMHO you're a bit too cautious in it, its armour can stand a lot, as long as you hide your lower plate.
idk tbh, armor only holds up against tier 8 heavy, medium and light tanks, TDs and tier 9 vehicles destroy it easilty
@@resko8758 Not if one raises/angles it a bit.
@@kermitage You can get a lot of bounces, but against most tier 9 tanks, with a decent player, you will get eaten pretty quick. It's a great tank though, super good gun and DPM.
TS-5 and Turtle should both be 4 stars.
Agreed
Skill i like your uniform from the thumbnail
✅️DPM
✅️Alpha dmg
✅️Armor
❌️Speed
❌️Turret
Therefore, Turtle is a 4 star tank.
ts-5 is 5 star having same pros and cons, also turtle has better gun depression and smaller weakspot
I think you should put the category "Matchmaking Dependency" with stars: Means Skorpion = 5 stars; Turtle = ? stars.
That would most tanks in this game let's be honest with "How high is RNG going to Fu up" category...this game is 30% skill 70% luck
u are the wikipedia of the wot, thank u man
Who would rate this thing 5*?
Only noobs.
This thing is too MM-dependent.
It can bully lower tiers like crazy but playing against higher tiers is a totally different story.
When its armor doesn't work, low alpha, low pen, and no turret make both playing in frontline and sniping not effective.
Skorpion, SU-130 PM, and all other TDs that have a real TD gun don't suffer the same situation.
They are just as effective against higher tiers, making them more consistent.
Skieeeeeeeel! I’m not saying you need to rank Turtle 5 stars, but you need to not hate it… Play with Mobility Improvement (experimental turbo) and it is amazing.
This doesn't look like a LIS.
Its a beast of a tank, but i feel like the big boy alpha tds are better. I do like the turtle, but not as much as ka-ri.
Cant find it in the armory anymore?
only Turtle who really schould be epic is Kylian Mbappe and no other ): i think my ts-5 is better and this tank deserved to be on daily skill video too
In my opinion, the Turtle is good at best. You have to look at the whole, not how it deals with low tiers.
Thank you for your honesty Skill. I bought this tank because people said it was great and I don't like it. It works sometimes but it's just not much fun.
The pen ruins this tank. You're supposed to go up close but even with gold you can't pen anything. Especially with all the fking hulldown tanks in the game
is it just me or 400 alpha damage guns always lowroll but 440 or 390 alpha guns seem to highroll way more often. Maybe just a coincidence.
My old T34 rolling 300~ damage everytime... I wished they buffed it with gun handling or more alpha, 490 would be great for it
It's a psychological thing, when you have a 400 DMG gun and you lowroll 350-370 you really notice that lowroll because the first number changes and it's more noticeable, but when you have 490-440 and you lowroll 410-420 you don't really care because the first number doesn't change so you don't pay so much attention to it to understand how bad of a low roll the shot was (that's what I think and it would make sense) and it happens to me as well btw
@jmar1us920 that makes sense actually quite smart
I feel like my Leopard 1 literally never high rolls so I'm not sure 🤷🏻♂️
I find all this funny - whenever a premium tank is on offering, some you-tuber (almost all of wot community contributors) is doing a showcase for that tank - thus - pushing for buying of that tank....all the wile talking about how WoT is taking our money and how - he - "X or Y" community contributor, doesn't support this business model....but, keeping on hipping ,indirectly, that tank
i think 4 stars is better because its more like a 4.3/5 and not like 4.6/5 if you understand me
If they nerf my Turtle and BZ-176 will remain same i will meet Belarus personally very soon
Turtle deserve 5 star for sure
thank you skill for info
For me personally i would change some things in the Turtle index page:
I would move armour effectiveness from 5 to 4 since armour is worse than TS 5 based on my experience, i would also raise gun handling to 3 and mobility to 2.
The overall rating in my opinion deserves to be 5 because it's a far more versatile tank than for example a TS 5 a T 28 or an AT 15.
I think to be 5 stars it has to still perform well against +2
Turtle 1 just really doesn't, compared to vs +0, even with full gold
Maybe that's just me though
SkEeeeeLLLllllllLll!!! How your day is today? 🎉
Definitely not worth 5 stars. The armor doesn't work against people who press the 2 key and the gold rounds have nothing on the TS-5's gold rounds. No idea why people think this thing is epic
Because it is. Turtle is fairly moron proof, TS-5 is even more moron proof. Turtle requires more thinking but is straight forward. TS-5 requires RRR and left click.
Turtle has 10° of depression, more dpm and hulldown capabilities. I have both, TS-5 and Turtle, and Turtle is straight better, but TS-5 is easier to use and has a lower skill cap. If you play Turtle you need to know the maps and where you can go to maximise it's advantages.
Because Daki did 12k damage in it. I doubt there's other tier 8 tank capable of doing that. Even in Daki's hands.
@@madogthefirst but its not idiot proof. There are a ton of new/low skill players that can't make this tank work, and even decent players that will struggle with it. Press 2 and it practically has zero armour, even hull down. Particularly when you mostly see tier 9/10s.
Bro i’m not a really good player, nut i did yesterday on 8 games on turtle 1 6k and 2 with ower 5,3k. You can’t tell me that this is not op?
The turtle was good before it got buffed. 5 stars what what
I feel the same way, its kind a mee.
I prefer TS-5. When i see Turtle tho i shoot the gold and handle it. Simple😅
I just helped one across the road the other day
Skill? Can you tell Wargaming to shift from the Stalins era to this world and understand that they can't tell us what to do but customers tell them what to do. During last about 5 years WG has lost their old customers mostly, the best promoting people like SirFoch and like him, one of the best gamers in this ever... If the commercial idea is just to reroll the customers and have all new and start again... yes I can see the point... but there is also something called like reputation and that can last longer than anyone even live so it should be the last moments to kiss goodbye to the long lost Sovient Unions' and communistic paradise never to come and not just to balance with your own goals and deeds, but just show how short lived memomory you have about anything. A very good platform is going 'down under' as we speak and there are a lot of streamers thinking about the same. If WG wants that newcomers aren't frustrated as players with all tanks and 10's of thousands games and just roll over them like no tomorrow, which indeed is not quite entertaining, then what if we had these classes, and it could be defined both how experienced you are, and what IS YOUR AGE and MM would work primarly on this aspect. 3 cathegories at least aka children, teens and adults, but the more prominent one would be under 20 have all what they want and I don't give a fuck, and others can just relax and take a breath and continue playing. NOONE NO ONE WANT*S some shithead children to mess all the games so that thew best games are nowdays during 22.00-about 04.00. OK you superunicums may handle all situations but I do know the difference playing a shy less than 140 000 battles what I am talking about but even before even you Skill start, I have killed you non anonymizefuckmezizer style every sigle time we have met head in head no matter what tanks. QB too many times and DezGamez too...Skill is the only one so far apart late SirFoch who has been a tough nut to break. But if I se a 'celebrity in enemy team, I won't go after him os her, I go where I palnned to go, but if he or she comes there, then be aware. The last time Skill against me on Erlenberg Map with his Bobject 705 A but I had Pz VII we met on the towns river side in the middle between those buildings, but as some do think that the Pz VII isn't that srong, in close quarters it's better than Maus.. way better if just care to angle a bit your tank and hide the flat lower plate or angle it. And you can also ram... and as a taller tank tank you can also just shoot to the roof and its auto pen all the time. It has some weird holes in its matlet that make no sense, but it can be penetrated even from the mantlet, but in some odd places only and not too bifg, other tant that even JGPZE 100 can't penetrate that tanks turre´t even whit the HEAT... you will only hear church bells ringing and no pen. The ony weak point is the triasngle benieath the turret between the hull, frontally, I mean, but good luck to hit that when the other guy will hit you with 560 with very accurate gun. FV 215b used tobe the best heavy back in the days, but now that arnor just cant hold anymore even though the DPM is still amazing for heavy tank and the gun behaves way better than super Conquerirs as I do ofc use the same crew on both. If I have to pick Super Concursus( to those who haven't read latin ) vs FV215b... I would take the later one any day of the week always. The biggest mistake in this game even if it is a pixelgame, is that tanks have been ever used for a purpose other than support in cities nor ever on moutainous areas, They are made for a breaktrouhg in open areas and quick flanking manoveveours from the Germans Bliztgrieg to the 'Desert Storm'.Keepeng this in mind, maps for Tiers up to maybe T8 could be good as they are, but other tan that, this game needs badly bigger maps especially for T10 tanks and those Grand Battle Maps are just right from their sixe, but too few and not always even avaible... For an example: I have in my PzKpfwagon or what ever T10 german light tank over 560m view range without optics even so I use in it instead of optics the commaders vision system that almost demolishes bushes. The bad thing about T10 light tanks is that they are pretty much useless. A good semi fast medium is way better option apart of EBR that is still in good hands after hammerred with nerfs ciós of the all mighty community, who don't see what really is going on and has always their hate on just one simple thing like back in the days to Defender and now, who even cares about a Defender or Chrysler GF? No one! In Simpsomns there where this episode where the 'producers' wanted to ask straight from the children what they wanted and liked. After these and askig the children if they wanted more violence, they shouted yes, when they were asked if they wanted more peace and understanding they shouted yes and in all opposite questions they always answered yes. This is just an animated cartoon, but unfortunately it is too close to be true: People don't even know what they really want. If all this fake is so obvious that even in shows like Simpsons you can mock this society and for a reason, maybe, maybe, it's a time for a time-out and re-think everything? The creator of Simpsons, Matt Groening who started to thse 'Life in Hell' scrips for newspapers and was so sarcastic, sharp, provocative and intellectual was the right time as economy strarted too rise again, so, Matt Groening's 'Life in Hell' was praised the dame time as it wwas mocking almost everyting in not only in western world but in human conseption all together...
5 stars for tier 8 and under, 4 stars above tier 8. great vid info Overlord, u had no help and the shitpik was a noob.
Dude you gave Skorpion, SU-130PM and TS-5 epic rating, but not Turtle? Why is TS-5 then epic?
Lol,I take my turtle out for a go and I just get smashed so then it just gets parked.
Git good scrub!
Now I see why you don't like the Tank... it tends to go all the way to the left Then goes all the way to the right Then all the way back to the left of map.. seems to have a steering problem or a mind of its own ? LOL
I only own the TS5 so can't really make a decision .. But love the TS5 :) THANKS Video :)
Skill has some weird opinions on tanks. Thinks the object 257 is underrated and actually good when it is not good. Also thinks the turtle, a dpm monster with very decent armor, is not very good and it's over rated. Very odd.
gg buddy!
I think it doesn't fit in your play style or something. But it's a good tank
I understand what skill means when he says he doesn't want to deal with the E 75, turtle can be penetrated frontally easily without gold.
Not epic its just perfect balanced
Ts5 4 stars, turtle 5 i thing :)
never forget 12k from Daki with it
No armor but I block 1500 damage a game hmm!
This guy is the single weirdest player of this game that I have personally ever seen. When he needs to be aggressive and push forward he hugs the red line like a scared little girly boy - when he needs to be careful and hang back he charges forward like a deranged manic high on cocaine. Weird.
Turtle is the best tier 8 prem TD in my opinion, really hard to have a bad game with it and that DPM is crazy.
Bandera username is cringe
*its bad tank and stop marketing the tank because its on sale*
Thx for deleting my comment ... this is a good step forward ... whoever did that you think you help skill by deleting comments of his old viewers ? and for what reason ? i said just it deserve the epic status you like it or not and i dont like it very much perso ? shame and i 'll ask skill in the twich stream for that
youtube is doing it brother
Hi skill. First once again
You're a selfish lover.
This thing is really fun, seriously
Turtle is good but it's also great, I love it, big dpm funny, tier VI love meeting it frfrfr