La "Serenade to Music" di Vaughan Williams ha toccato il mio cuore in un modo che poche composizioni riescono a fare. Ascoltando le parole di Shakespeare prese vita attraverso la musica, ho sentito una connessione profonda e personale con ogni nota. La maestria con cui le voci soliste tessono il tessuto sonoro è semplicemente mozzafiato, creando un'atmosfera che è a tratti celestiale. Quest'opera è un trionfo dell'espressione artistica, un dolce promemoria della capacità della musica di evocare emozioni pure e di trasportarci in luoghi dell'anima che raramente esploriamo. Ogni ascolto mi lascia con un senso di gratitudine per la bellezza e la profondità che l'arte può raggiungere.
The first performance was at The Royal Albert Hall on 5 October 1938, conducted by Sir Henry Wood, to whom VW tributed this incredible beautiful work. Sergei Rachmaninov played in the first half of the concert as soloist in his Second Piano Concerto. When he heard the Serenade from his place in the audience, he was so overcome by the beauty of the music that he wept. And so do I, everytime I hear this etherical music. By the way, the solo violin was the best I've ever heard.
Thank you for commenting and your touching words! 🌟 It is wonderful to hear how deeply the music of our performance moved you. Ralph Vaughan Williams' "Serenade to Music" is indeed an extraordinary work that shows the timeless power of music. Thank you for your support and enthusiastic feedback! #RalphVaughanWilliams #NDRRadiophilharmonie
What a stunning interpretation of this masterpiece this is. When this huge wave of voices rains over the audience, I get goosebumps on my goosebumps. Absolutely brilliant!
I have loved VW's music for as long as I've discovered it, which is many years ago by now. This was one of the first records I ever bought, not knowing what to expect. It transported me then to a place of beauty and it still does. As a Welsh Brit, it's gratifying to see that this is also appreciated in Germany too. Viele Danke !
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Serenade to Music English source: William Shakespeare How sweet the moonlight sleeps upon this bank! Here will we sit, and let the sounds of music Creep in our ears: soft stillness and the night Become the touches of sweet harmony. Look, how the floor of heaven Is thick inlaid with patines of bright gold: There's not the smallest orb that thou behold'st But in his motion like an angel sings Still quiring to the young-eyed cherubins; Such harmony is in immortal souls; But, whilst this muddy vesture of decay Doth grossly close it in, we cannot hear it. Come, ho! and wake Diana with a hymn: With sweetest touches pierce your mistress' ear, And draw her home with music. I am never merry when I hear sweet music. The reason is, your spirits are attentive: The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not mov'd with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; The motions of his spirit are dull as night, And his affections dark as Erebus: Let no such man be trusted... Music! hark! It is your music of the house. Methinks it sounds much sweeter than by day. Silence bestows that virtue on it. How many things by season season'd are. To their right praise and true perfection! Peace, ho! the moon sleeps with Endymion, And would not be awak'd. (Soft stillness and the night Become the touches of sweet harmony.)
What a beautiful and inspired piece of music, and a lovely rendition as well. I have known and loved Vaughan Williams music for many years, but just stumbled upon this one through a comment on his Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis. Adding this one to my listening repertoire.❤
Was für eine wunderschöne Musik, ich habe durch einen glücklichen Zufall dieses Musikstück gefunden da ich schon einiges von Ralph Vaughan Williams kenne und noch weitere Werke von ihm kennenlernen wollte. Dabei mag ich eigentlich gar keine Chormusik… 😊 aber dieses Werk ist so schön❤. Kann ich ,speziell von dieser Aufführung, eine CD oder DVD kaufen?
What a beautiful title of this work "serenade to music", in fact the music is a serenade by itself. What a great composer Ralph Vaughan Williams, this serenade was written as a tribute to conductor Sir Henry Wood, the first time I heard this composer was in Denmark and his famous work for solo violin "the lark ascending" and then in London with his famous " Antarctic Symphony", from that moment I was really in love with his music. Thank you NDR Radiophilharmonie for sharing such beautiful concerts.
Just a wonderful performance of a sonorous melodic wistful theme enhanced by a massed choir elevating the music to the heavens.Congratulations Andrew Manzie and his entourage - mellifluous listening .
Very nice interpretation of this very english music, as I see it. It doesnt disturb me at all that here we have more than 16 voices, as long as they sing this good. And it is always good with music that has the capacity to celebrate itself.
A quality upload with no cue 'blips'. The sound is excellent and the balance between the choirs and orchestra is almost perfect. Orchestral detail is never lost. Many thanks for this fine posting.
Fell in love with this piece by Ralph Vaughn Williams during college choir. My Voice Teachers sang version with solos and choir. Thank you for this beautiful performance!😍
Wunderschöne und detaillierte Aufführung dieser spätromantischen und perfekt komponierten Serenade mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente sowie gut harmonisierten Stimmen der sechs perfekt trainierten Chöre. Der intelligente und geniale Chefdirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut analysierten Tempo und mit künstlerisch kontrollierter Dynamik. Alles ist wunderbar!
Such a ravishing piece. This arrangement for full choir by the composer himself does not quite capture the extraordinary effect of the original version with 16 soloists singing what is in effect dialogue from The Merchant of Venice. In the original, there is a sense of intense intimacy, which is rather lost here. But it is an intensely beautiful performance of this jewel. Thank you the upload.
Vaughan Williams knew that it would be difficult to get 16 soloists for later performances. So he made some more arrangements of it, among them this version for choir and orchestra. The many choirs here may be enough for Mahler's 8th, but they sing their part very transparent and beautiful.
We heard it played in a large setting by the Cleveland Orchestra, chorus and soloists at the Blossom Music Center in Ohio, and it literally brought us to tears. As memorable a performance of any for which I've ever been present.
It has that capacity to deeply move to tears - of joy I suppose. In the first performance in the Albert Hall, Rachmaninov was present. He played his 2nd piano concerto in the 1st half and was in the audience in Henry Wood's box for the 2nd half. He was seen to have tears in his eyes too.@@jackarcher7495
Lyrics: How sweet the moonlight sleeps upon this bank! Here will we sit, and let the sounds of music Creep in our ears: soft stillness and the night Become the touches of sweet harmony. Look, how the floor of heaven Is thick inlaid with patines of bright gold: There's not the smallest orb that thou behold'st But in his motion like an angel sings Still quiring to the young-eyed cherubins; Such harmony is in immortal souls; But, whilst this muddy vesture of decay Doth grossly close it in, we cannot hear it. Come, ho! and wake Diana with a hymn: With sweetest touches pierce your mistress' ear, And draw her home with music. I am never merry when I hear sweet music. The reason is, your spirits are attentive: The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not mov'd with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; The motions of his spirit are dull as night, And his affections dark as Erebus: Let no such man be trusted... Music! hark! It is your music of the house. Methinks it sounds much sweeter than by day. Silence bestows that virtue on it. How many things by season season'd are. To their right praise and true perfection! Peace, ho! the moon sleeps with Endymion, And would not be awak'd. (Soft stillness and the night Become the touches of sweet harmony.)
Thank you very much for the compliment! Unfortunately we do not send any recordings. A CD is not planned yet, but we are happy to take the idea with us.
Wunderschön ! @NDR Klassik - Ich bin Fan Yeol Eum Son und habe gerade gesehen auf NDR Seite in eurem Video mit Beethoven: Klavierkonzert Nr. 4 dass Yeol Eum Son auch Rachmaninov : Klavierkonzert Nr. 2 vor 2 Wochen gespielt hat. Können Sie bitte diese beide Konzerte auch hier bei NDR Klassik posten ?
As a choir participant in this performance, I remember a number of around 200 choristers from the six Hannovarian choirs - at most 250. There is hardly any room for more in the choir gallery of the "Kuppelsaal". (A few months later we performed Mahler's 8th Symphony at the same location, there were around 300 singers for the mixed choir - it was very, very tight and there was no room for chairs any more. At this "Serenade to Music" performance there is still enogh space for everyone. Symbol „Von der Community überprüft“ Feedback
This is, in my opinion, a very fine and exceptionally enjoyable performance - but, a mistake, I think, to give the solo parts to the entire choral sections. Charming to hear how the German choristers pronounce the most common of English words - “the” .
VW wrote several versions of this work, including this choral version. Non-native singers in English very rarely pronounce "the" correctly. This wasn't too bad actually.
I once attended a performance of Handel's "Messiah" in the Brangwyn Hall in Swansea by a German choir -I forget which one. One thing that did stick in memory was the, for me, amusing way they pronounced "The Lord gave the Word". It came out as "Ze Lort gafe zah Verd".I had to smile a bit. I expect we'd have produced the same effect if we tried to sing in German for a German audience.@@karldelavigne8134
This is a LOVELY performance; however, I suspect V-W might be turning over in his grave with the size of the choir...instead of 16 solo voices! It's works well here, other than the exposed high soprano line near the end....way TOO MANY sopranos going for that high note!!!
We hope his rest remains undisturbed, since he himself came up with different arrangements than the original version when realizing that 16 soloists might be difficult to assemble in future performances. ☺️
very dull and uninspiring - this piece is one of my absolute favorites but this conductor managed to ruin it - i had to stop listening a little over half way through
I think that is a very uncharitable criticism, and I can't see by what criteria you could draw those conclusions. I found it a very lyrical and well-paced performance.
@@karldelavigne8134 peoples' ears have been so dumbed down - i can't even begin - opera has been ruined for decades now - orchestras more and more have lost feeling and style - old people like me remember how good it use to be
@@karldelavigne8134 if it is not super duper obvious to your ears how lame this performance is, then you can't be convinced by me - again, i blame the conductor always in such situations - i say nothing bad about the performers
Had the pleasure of singing in the Columbus (OH) Symphony Chorus years ago when they did this exquisite piece. Will never forget it.
Ditto the Cleveland Orchestra and Cleveland Orchestra Chorus at Blossom not too many years ago. There were tears in my wife's eyes at the end.
La "Serenade to Music" di Vaughan Williams ha toccato il mio cuore in un modo che poche composizioni riescono a fare. Ascoltando le parole di Shakespeare prese vita attraverso la musica, ho sentito una connessione profonda e personale con ogni nota. La maestria con cui le voci soliste tessono il tessuto sonoro è semplicemente mozzafiato, creando un'atmosfera che è a tratti celestiale. Quest'opera è un trionfo dell'espressione artistica, un dolce promemoria della capacità della musica di evocare emozioni pure e di trasportarci in luoghi dell'anima che raramente esploriamo. Ogni ascolto mi lascia con un senso di gratitudine per la bellezza e la profondità che l'arte può raggiungere.
Stunning performance by all! Just beautiful! Cheers from Australia.
Thank you!! And cheers to you from Hamburg!
The first performance was at The Royal Albert Hall on 5 October 1938, conducted by Sir Henry Wood, to whom VW tributed this incredible beautiful work. Sergei Rachmaninov played in the first half of the concert as soloist in his Second Piano Concerto. When he heard the Serenade from his place in the audience, he was so overcome by the beauty of the music that he wept. And so do I, everytime I hear this etherical music.
By the way, the solo violin was the best I've ever heard.
Thank you for commenting and your touching words! 🌟
It is wonderful to hear how deeply the music of our performance moved you. Ralph Vaughan Williams' "Serenade to Music" is indeed an extraordinary work that shows the timeless power of music. Thank you for your support and enthusiastic feedback!
#RalphVaughanWilliams #NDRRadiophilharmonie
What a stunning interpretation of this masterpiece this is. When this huge wave of voices rains over the audience, I get goosebumps on my goosebumps. Absolutely brilliant!
What a beautiful metaphor - thanks for sharing! 💐💐💐
I have loved VW's music for as long as I've discovered it, which is many years ago by now. This was one of the first records I ever bought, not knowing what to expect. It transported me then to a place of beauty and it still does. As a Welsh Brit, it's gratifying to see that this is also appreciated in Germany too. Viele Danke !
Thank you for your kind comment! We are pleased that you like our recording so much. 😊
It's quite beautiful. Dreamlike, sublime.
Sublime. Had to replay instantly.
Love to hear that!!😃 Thanks!
Japanese people deeply love Vaughun Williams ‘ music
This wonderful and comfortable performance embodies his musical aesthetics , and inspirational, and stirs the soul
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Serenade to Music
English source: William Shakespeare
How sweet the moonlight sleeps upon this bank!
Here will we sit, and let the sounds of music
Creep in our ears: soft stillness and the night
Become the touches of sweet harmony.
Look, how the floor of heaven
Is thick inlaid with patines of bright gold:
There's not the smallest orb that thou behold'st
But in his motion like an angel sings
Still quiring to the young-eyed cherubins;
Such harmony is in immortal souls;
But, whilst this muddy vesture of decay
Doth grossly close it in, we cannot hear it.
Come, ho! and wake Diana with a hymn:
With sweetest touches pierce your mistress' ear,
And draw her home with music.
I am never merry when I hear sweet music.
The reason is, your spirits are attentive:
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not mov'd with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus:
Let no such man be trusted... Music! hark!
It is your music of the house.
Methinks it sounds much sweeter than by day.
Silence bestows that virtue on it.
How many things by season season'd are.
To their right praise and true perfection!
Peace, ho! the moon sleeps with Endymion,
And would not be awak'd.
(Soft stillness and the night
Become the touches of sweet harmony.)
What a beautiful and inspired piece of music, and a lovely rendition as well. I have known and loved Vaughan Williams music for many years, but just stumbled upon this one through a comment on his Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis. Adding this one to my listening repertoire.❤
Thank you! We are very pleased that you like our interpretation of this work so much. ☺️
Thanks so much for sharing this with us RVW lovers.
Our pleasure! 😊 Thank you for listening!!
The most beautiful piece by Vaughan Williams.
Was für eine wunderschöne Musik, ich habe durch einen glücklichen Zufall dieses Musikstück gefunden da ich schon einiges von Ralph Vaughan Williams kenne und noch weitere Werke von ihm kennenlernen wollte. Dabei mag ich eigentlich gar keine Chormusik… 😊 aber dieses Werk ist so schön❤. Kann ich ,speziell von dieser Aufführung, eine CD oder DVD kaufen?
Leider nein! Aber wir freuen uns sehr, dass es gefällt!
A beautiful rendition of this stunning serenade. Thank you so much for it.Vielen hertzlichen danke!
It is our pleasure! Thank you so much for listening! 😍
Just beautiful!❤
What a beautiful title of this work "serenade to music", in fact the music is a serenade by itself.
What a great composer Ralph Vaughan Williams, this serenade was written as a tribute to conductor Sir Henry Wood, the first time I heard this composer was in Denmark and his famous work for solo violin "the lark ascending" and then in London with his famous " Antarctic Symphony", from that moment I was really in love with his music.
Thank you NDR Radiophilharmonie for sharing such beautiful concerts.
Thank you for sharing! We are very happy that you enjoyed it!
Just a wonderful performance of a sonorous melodic wistful theme enhanced by a massed choir elevating the music to the heavens.Congratulations Andrew Manzie and his entourage - mellifluous listening .
You are welcome! We are glad you like it so much, thanks for your appreciation! 🌟
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Wonderful music, beautifully performed.
It is a great pleasure for us. Thank you very much!
This is so beautiful. Wonderful performance by the orchestra. The chorus is very good. Thank you.
Thank you! 🤩🤩🤩
Very nice interpretation of this very english music, as I see it. It doesnt disturb me at all that here we have more than 16 voices, as long as they sing this good. And it is always good with music that has the capacity to celebrate itself.
Ephemerally majestic
Thank you!
Absolutely beautiful!
We are happy that you enjoyed it! Thank you for sharing! 😊
So exquisite. What music for the soul!
Thank you - much appreciated!
A quality upload with no cue 'blips'. The sound is excellent and the balance between the choirs and orchestra is almost perfect. Orchestral detail is never lost. Many thanks for this fine posting.
Our pleasure! Thank you for listening!
Fell in love with this piece by Ralph Vaughn Williams during college choir. My Voice Teachers sang version with solos and choir. Thank you for this beautiful performance!😍
@@deborahkaygoodhead8776 Here, here.
Wow. This is a beautiful performance of the choral version of this masterpiece. Many thanks for the upload.
Such a killer performance. Excellent in every way. And always great audio/visual work from this channel as well. Thank you for sharing this.
We are very happy that you liked our video so much. Thank you!
Wunderschöne Musik und ein hervorragendes Orchester und Chor. Gut gemacht. Such a pleasure to listen to well done all of you. Thank you, Vielen Dank.
Thank you very much! We are very pleased that our interpretation is so well received.
Adorable music, thank you.
Our pleasure, thank you for listening!!
heavenly better than tranquilizers
Wunderschöne und detaillierte Aufführung dieser spätromantischen und perfekt komponierten Serenade mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente sowie gut harmonisierten Stimmen der sechs perfekt trainierten Chöre. Der intelligente und geniale Chefdirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut analysierten Tempo und mit künstlerisch kontrollierter Dynamik. Alles ist wunderbar!
Vielen Dank, lieber notaire!
Such a ravishing piece. This arrangement for full choir by the composer himself does not quite capture the extraordinary effect of the original version with 16 soloists singing what is in effect dialogue from The Merchant of Venice. In the original, there is a sense of intense intimacy, which is rather lost here. But it is an intensely beautiful performance of this jewel. Thank you the upload.
Thanks for listenig and sharing!
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Very Beautiful ❤️🙏🇨🇦
Thank you!!
剛聽完感覺很優美的Hikok純管絃樂版,再因推薦來聽這同名曲,乍看之下,陣容似乎沒那麼有名,但一開始的首席小提琴的琴音與詮釋,竟然能讓我感動到想掉淚 ! 不但如此,合唱部分也能呈現出小夜曲的氣氛 ! 這是以優美著稱的演出版本 ! 這是否與較慢的速度有關 ? 當然與纖細的感覺不無關連 ! 不管如何,這個指揮家因此引起敝人的注意,我記得(沒記錯的話)指揮家在某品牌已出版佛漢威廉士的交響曲,也許詮釋地也很道地(但卻沒得到強烈評價推薦 !? ),將來當將親自鑑賞 !
補充 : 為保留留言經歷,不做根本上的更動而另行補充; 在聽過作曲家親自督導的版本後(可參考「1st recording - Vaughan Williams : Serenade to Music」由2ndviolinist上傳),立即發覺詮釋與錄音上的差異 ! 當然作曲家的版本具有示範的作用,甚或應成為愛樂者的必備版本 ! 因這與「真」的價值有關 ! 但本影片優美的詮釋方式卻有著舊瓶裝新酒的姿態 ! 對我而言,同樣具有存在的價值 ! 否則怎會在聽過作曲家版本之前深深為其所著迷且到愛不釋手的程度 ! 統合起來,結論似為,只要自己喜歡為準,然而必須強調作曲家原意的重要性 ! 整體而言,其他的詮釋方式可視為錦上添花的結果吧 !
very nice....
Yay!
This was written for 16 soloists and orchestra. The forces here would be enough for Mahler's 8th!
Vaughan Williams knew that it would be difficult to get 16 soloists for later performances. So he made some more arrangements of it, among them this version for choir and orchestra. The many choirs here may be enough for Mahler's 8th, but they sing their part very transparent and beautiful.
We heard it played in a large setting by the Cleveland Orchestra, chorus and soloists at the Blossom Music Center in Ohio, and it literally brought us to tears. As memorable a performance of any for which I've ever been present.
It has that capacity to deeply move to tears - of joy I suppose. In the first performance in the Albert Hall, Rachmaninov was present. He played his 2nd piano concerto in the 1st half and was in the audience in Henry Wood's box for the 2nd half. He was seen to have tears in his eyes too.@@jackarcher7495
Lyrics:
How sweet the moonlight sleeps upon this bank!
Here will we sit, and let the sounds of music
Creep in our ears: soft stillness and the night
Become the touches of sweet harmony.
Look, how the floor of heaven
Is thick inlaid with patines of bright gold:
There's not the smallest orb that thou behold'st
But in his motion like an angel sings
Still quiring to the young-eyed cherubins;
Such harmony is in immortal souls;
But, whilst this muddy vesture of decay
Doth grossly close it in, we cannot hear it.
Come, ho! and wake Diana with a hymn:
With sweetest touches pierce your mistress' ear,
And draw her home with music.
I am never merry when I hear sweet music.
The reason is, your spirits are attentive:
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not mov'd with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus:
Let no such man be trusted... Music! hark!
It is your music of the house.
Methinks it sounds much sweeter than by day.
Silence bestows that virtue on it.
How many things by season season'd are.
To their right praise and true perfection!
Peace, ho! the moon sleeps with Endymion,
And would not be awak'd.
(Soft stillness and the night
Become the touches of sweet harmony.)
Is it possible to obtain a lossless version of this recording? It should be on a proper CD release, the recording quality is exceptional.
Thank you very much for the compliment! Unfortunately we do not send any recordings. A CD is not planned yet, but we are happy to take the idea with us.
@@NDRKlassik please do so, youtube is typically 192 kbps which is a pity given the quality of sound capture on this recording is exceptional
Good move to have the choir do everything instead of soloists. Nearly impossible to find a tenor that doesn't attack this with the bellows.
Vocals start around 2:30.
Wunderschön !
@NDR Klassik - Ich bin Fan Yeol Eum Son und habe gerade gesehen auf NDR Seite in eurem Video mit Beethoven: Klavierkonzert Nr. 4 dass Yeol Eum Son auch Rachmaninov : Klavierkonzert Nr. 2 vor 2 Wochen gespielt hat. Können Sie bitte diese beide Konzerte auch hier bei NDR Klassik posten ?
Wir geben den Wunsch gerne weiter und halten Ihnen und uns die Daumen! 😃
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Danke ! 🌹
Does anyone know how many singers made up that mammoth choir? ... Could the number be in the region of 400 or even 500 choristers?
Well, we estimated 300-400 choristers. So, your assumption was very good. 😊
As a choir participant in this performance, I remember a number of around 200 choristers from the six Hannovarian choirs - at most 250. There is hardly any room for more in the choir gallery of the "Kuppelsaal". (A few months later we performed Mahler's 8th Symphony at the same location, there were around 300 singers for the mixed choir - it was very, very tight and there was no room for chairs any more. At this "Serenade to Music" performance there is still enogh space for everyone.
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This is, in my opinion, a very fine and exceptionally enjoyable performance - but, a mistake, I think, to give the solo parts to the entire choral sections. Charming to hear how the German choristers pronounce the most common of English words - “the” .
VW wrote several versions of this work, including this choral version. Non-native singers in English very rarely pronounce "the" correctly. This wasn't too bad actually.
I once attended a performance of Handel's "Messiah" in the Brangwyn Hall in Swansea by a German choir -I forget which one. One thing that did stick in memory was the, for me, amusing way they pronounced "The Lord gave the Word". It came out as "Ze Lort gafe zah Verd".I had to smile a bit. I expect we'd have produced the same effect if we tried to sing in German for a German audience.@@karldelavigne8134
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This is a LOVELY performance; however, I suspect V-W might be turning over in his grave with the size of the choir...instead of 16 solo voices! It's works well here, other than the exposed high soprano line near the end....way TOO MANY sopranos going for that high note!!!
We hope his rest remains undisturbed, since he himself came up with different arrangements than the original version when realizing that 16 soloists might be difficult to assemble in future performances. ☺️
very dull and uninspiring - this piece is one of my absolute favorites but this conductor managed to ruin it - i had to stop listening a little over half way through
Sorry to hear that!
I think that is a very uncharitable criticism, and I can't see by what criteria you could draw those conclusions. I found it a very lyrical and well-paced performance.
@@karldelavigne8134 peoples' ears have been so dumbed down - i can't even begin - opera has been ruined for decades now - orchestras more and more have lost feeling and style - old people like me remember how good it use to be
@@VallaMusic My ears are not dumbed down and I have been listening for 50 years. What are your specific criticisms about Manze in this performance?
@@karldelavigne8134 if it is not super duper obvious to your ears how lame this performance is, then you can't be convinced by me - again, i blame the conductor always in such situations - i say nothing bad about the performers