The Danger of Zettelkasten: Forgetting That Notes Are a Means to an End

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @nicolasgatien7283
    @nicolasgatien7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "In digitial, notes seem to be the creative output".... That. Yeah, exactly. I think a lot of this comes from the idea that you could then make your notes open-source or whatever and more people could come read them, which honestly is a cool concept, kind of like the luhmann archives. But this very clearly has a lot of downsides. Thanks for the awesome video! :D

  • @xinth23
    @xinth23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, because this is a side note..." Scott Scheper, speaking figuratively, and *literally* about "sideways notes" in his antinet. They're sideways because they're the notes he's going to use to write the section on notes. That is so meta.

    • @scottscheper
      @scottscheper  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point! That's hilarious. A side note about side notes.

  • @elbeefo748
    @elbeefo748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started with obsedian, but switched to analog because I didn't feel like I was understanding the actual zettle process, and it felt like I was constantly trying to"clean up" fleeting notes instead of creating permanent notes.

  • @robertschuler3946
    @robertschuler3946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    keep no digital notes at all. i have had too many computers crash,,,, my brain became some what of a hard drive memory. This ANTINET has increased my reading speed and makes me think almost about every application or expansion on every note. to put in my index cards ,, more retention reviewing my bibliography section.. Lots to read and take notes on.. i dont think i will ever run out of good focused ideas coming from my ZK .. I Named her Temple,, as in thought,,

  • @weavermarquez1271
    @weavermarquez1271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Scott! Super thankful for your starting guidance and practical support. Happy to be part of this community and hope to contribute well. One thing that strikes me in your videos is the value your diagrams hold. Ive been taking bib notes on Generative Learning In Action and revisiting old notes on Dual Coding With Teachers, and I wonder if you would find value in esp. the latter, which focuses on the teaching utility and cognitive theory behind combining text and spatial information.
    As someone with a BSc computer science and BA communications studies, ive had a research interest and personal unease with our digital tools' lacklustre sophistication in handling anything that isn't text or string based. Ruminating on this more. Hope to share some stronger reflections soon - you got me excited to write a letter on this!

    • @scottscheper
      @scottscheper  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the recommendations. I hadn't heard of those. I'll check then out. Yes, I think the biggest opportunity and untapped area is that of using diagrams and illustrations in an Antinet ZK. Diagrams are hard. You don't really understand something until you can draw a diagram of it!

    • @weavermarquez1271
      @weavermarquez1271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottscheper th-cam.com/video/vsKBWsW2Unw/w-d-xo.html
      This is an hour (!!) Lecture of Dual Coding With Teachers going on about the theory and teaching applications. Feel free to skim, and I think the part on the value of a network vs hierarchy is especially salient. I think it was in chapter 3 (6-10 mins? Can't switch to check on mobile 😠)

    • @weavermarquez1271
      @weavermarquez1271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pfff oh my god hahaha I implore you to skim this video at 2x speed, I think you'll end up bursting laughing at the connections! Unreal!!

  • @vetlie-kt8lo
    @vetlie-kt8lo ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was exactly what I have been looking for! Thank you. Really good video to promote your book as well. A lot of times when you search for videos about these topics all you get is some people writing notes on productivity, but with no real intention of producing any other output than videos on productivity and note-taking. When writing essays and articles this is rarely that useful, as the need to connect thoughts and keep references are different, in my opinion.
    Per today making an analog zettelkasten is not possible for me. After my masters dissertation I plan to spend some time to convert my system to an analog one, and I hope to have my own office. As for now, portability is key for me.
    Anyways, I was wondering if you have any tips that can be used to improve a digital system as well? I think the critique of the digital system and how people use it is very helpful, but I am also thinking it is a critique with potential to improve on the digital system - if for some reason you can´t or won´t go analog (for now).

    • @vetlie-kt8lo
      @vetlie-kt8lo ปีที่แล้ว

      While I still believe digital systems aren't useless, I just got your book which already has answered some of my questions. Was really hoping to do some digital practice before starting to create a physical one. But that motivation is gone, and I am considering creating boxes to temporarily store in my car for easy access wherever I am. Or just wait :)

  • @walterwong6970
    @walterwong6970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A notes is an idea, the tip of an iceberg. An idea is written down, not the whole iceberg. Pick up and move a note, the whole iceberg move along. Using space limited index cards actually meaning something, don’t write down everything. Working memory is limited when working with notes.

  • @aaronwinter1105
    @aaronwinter1105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Scott, very thankful for your content. Have started a physical antinet after mucking around with digital and not getting anywhere.
    One thing though, can you explain why you think scrivener is bad but Ulysses isn’t? I would think Ulysses’ keeping everything you write in one, integrated, searchable folder would be much closer to roam than scrivener’s single project based system?

    • @scottscheper
      @scottscheper  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scrivener just felt clunky. It kept crashing. Ulysses has all the features I need yet is light and snappy.

  • @karelhana9977
    @karelhana9977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I have a question about linking information from multiple disciplines in one branch. How would you handle this situation?
    I have a branch on the topic "Love". I started the branch with information from social philosophy, but now I have come across information from psychoanalysis (which is a different discipline). Should I put this information in the same branch, or categorize it correctly by discipline to another branch and then somehow link it through references (or use an index card on the topic of love)? I wonder if you strictly adhere to the categorization by scientific discipline, or do you no longer address that in the process and just continue to branch out?

    • @karelhana9977
      @karelhana9977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would appreciate the answer because I am stuck at this point. 😅

  • @bf-thinking
    @bf-thinking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great example of how to use CaGas and why they're so powerful. Clearly shows why a picture's worth a thousand words... but only if you have the knowledge to read it!
    You might be interested in this video by Bulletproof Journals: th-cam.com/video/c9vPNSSQvHk/w-d-xo.html
    Seems like she's using a simple zettelkasten setup, rather than an anti-net, but her examples of visual notes are certainly interesting.

  • @iopjklbnm123321
    @iopjklbnm123321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please tell me where can I buy those box?

    • @scottscheper
      @scottscheper  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazon. Vaultz 4x6" cabinets