The funniest part about that baby face guy was that he was so hyped for Starfield as if it were some innovative new RPG experience but the pronouns ruined that for him
For context: No, the pronouns didn't make go to do his rant. He legitimately tried to put hours into the game. He was quite dismissal about the pronouns part in the creator. Confused, but not world ending. The game started to stop being fun to him when he jokingly started add in stereotypical "leftish" things. Which most of them came out. His immersion got broken by the writing of the game. He tapped out around six hours in. This is the context many don't talk about and just take the rant as the full context.
@@Wesmoen The pronouns part of the game is exclusively found in the character creator, he was playing the game for the first time when he had the freak out. Literally making his character, idk what you're even talking about, did we watch the same video?
@@tree4318 in the livestream he just rubbed his eyes and asked in a calmly matter why preferred pronouns were on by default. Quite relaxed if you asked me.
You’re so right about this type of content being shoved down people’s throats on TH-cam. I’ve never watched any of their videos yet still get constant reminders!
I used to watch some of these videos back in 2018/2019/2020 out of couriosity before I realized what they where doing, never managed to watch a full 15 minute videos of one of these guys.
I remember back in the day, Gamergate was allegedly started to demand for better journalistic integrity. So when I noticed reviews with disclosures to clarify if they have had any kind of relationship with a developer for transparency I was like "Well, that was the goal, right guys?" And then they started attacking women, queer people and people of colour who worked in the industry. And then all the TH-camrs who were covering Gamergate started to talk about how Islam is invading the UK. And it was like "Oh wow, this entire debacle has been a successful psy op".
True that. Like, yeah, they did expose that there *was* a concerted effort to smear detractors and that most mainstream games journalists were in whisper networks to collaborate on promoting certain narratives and circle the wagons to protect their own, something that is *still* a problem like how Naughty Dog hired an IGN journalist in exchange for positive coverage or how they refused to report on an ally of theirs bullying an ex to self un-alive. But the takeaway for the critics isn't that this is happening, but that "woke" people are doing this, as if them being woke was the bigger problem there.
@@crazyinsane500 Im pretty sure people were talking about the dodgy relationship between journalists and publishers long before Gamergate started a moral panic. I think Sterling made at least 4 videos about it pre gamergate. Also, who are you talking about? An ally of Naughty Dog?
And I swear gamergate is what led to the TH-cam alt-right pipeline. I never saw any of the right-wing like Ben Shapiro types or anything being suggested to me until after all the gamergating nonsense. I never watched a single gamergate video. I never watched in Anita sarkeesian video. I never watched anything like that but then right when gamergate was at its peak I started getting all of the critical drinker guys videos recommended and all of these other people
TH-camrs blaming DEI for why games are bad is like complaining about your house being unliveable because you have an annoying neighbour… And not the fact that the roof is falling apart, the rooms are full of mold, the landlord is raising your rent prices, there’s a skeleton in the basement, and the entire house itself is built on top of a massive sinkhole ready to collapse at any given moment. But that neighbour is sure annoying though.
I’m genuinely embarrassed that I used to believe these people’s utter tripe and even moderated one of their servers for some time. But then again, it led me to where I am today watching this very video, so it was clearly worth something.
You took the words out of my mouth, bub. Sure, there are genuine films and games that are very far-left and alienating (I.E. Barbie, Class of 09, Life is Strange, Black Christmas 2019, the Candyman reboot, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and the crowning champion of insane far-left gobbledygook, The American Society of Magical Negroes). But thanks to "Reverse-Sarkeesians" aka. Media Grifters, the conversation surrounding the real issue of far-left politics in media has been utterly _destroyed._ And I was a victim of their warped ideals, insane double standards, and love of taking advantage of unfortunate implications in works of fiction that are just badly written. In short, Media Grifters and the legions of parrots they've given rise to are their own worst enemy.
seeing gamergate make a resurgence makes me want to interact with the communities for games that I play more, especially to act as a role model that I didn't have when I got caught in it myself. But seeing the toxic way that the internet functions now also makes me want to just ditch the whole thing and do zero community interaction. Hard to find a balance lmao
I think Dead Domain is pretty good for thoughtful, progressive content on games and gaming culture. They do quite a lot on general political stuff, but as an active gaming streamer they have definitely done some good work on this topic, I'd definitely recommend checking out their work.
"The Failed Resurrection of GamerGate" Really need to narrow down _which_ failed resurrection of GamerGate you're on about because the "culture war" grifters keep trying to make it a thing again.
And GamerGate is just resurrected anti-SJW slop reheated after it's been dug out of LiveJournal's dumpster, this shit keeps _going_ and it's _bothersome_ .
This is so true. I absolutely *hate* looking up any info for a new game on this platform. I have to sift through so much shit to not only find an *actual* review, but one from someone who even bothered to play the game.
At this point I'd tell you you probably should look at the speedrunning community. They won't necessarily tell you if the PLOT is good, but at least they'll tell you where the game's broken and if it's fun-broken or bad-broken.
I see so much shit thats just "woke, la woksime, bad game because woman" When its more just The games a buggy, unplayable mess, no ones gonna buy it because of that
The whole content is out of place. You look at video-games since 70's when they firstly came out and no such themes are ever present. Then by second half of 2010's there is a rapid shift that by less than 4 years these themes become 50% of the norm.
@novinceinhosic3531 the content isn't out of place though? Games since the 90s have had all sorts of things in them comparable to those today, fallout 1 and 2 feature gay, and lesbian characters, the content isn't "out of place" it's more just women are less sexualised in the media and so on, and social media allows for a vocal minority to be even more vocal. Most people I talk to couldn't care less about the content of a game, they care more about its quality.
@@thecarrierpigeon6657 I totally disagree. Homosexual characters are more a thing of commedy or just side characters with not too much exposition, while female characters nowadays are more sexualized than ever before. The difference is that you have either oversexualized or androgynous as women devs are ugly looking and want to reflect their appears in characters that posses a lot of power in order to compensate. You can see the same phenomenon with ugly men devs back in the day. What is unique and has never existed before up until past mid 2010's is the corporate LGBT vibe and PC policing, these things were never a thing before 9 years ago and they only kept increasing past 2020.
As someone who actually has worked in the tech industry and game development over the last decade, these right wing reactionaries talking about game devs as if they know a god damn thing about the industry makes me rage. I have actual lived grievances about the industry, and they touch on none of them. The tech industry and in particular the video game has severe issues (Worker mistreatment, crunch, mass layoffs and studio closures, etc.), non of them are related inclusivity of the games being built. There are TH-cam channels like People Make Games that are unapologetically progressive in their messaging, but they are drowned out by the deluge of hack right wing grifters trying to make a quick buck on the platform.
Is making bad games that no-gamer would want to buy one of the grievances? Who was the audience for Concord? For S Squad K the Justice League? Who will be the audience for Fairgames? Is this not part of your grievances? Do you think that the vast majority of gamers would want to buy games with non-sexualized characters? Why would they? Don't you think that this is a problem? I want to be frank with you, I'm on the GG2 bandwagon EXCLUSIVELY for the ban on sexualization. I don't care how many gay/black/disabled characters there are in a game, as long as they're good looking. I've always been progressive, maybe even too much, since I'm not the puritan kind of progressive. (P.S. oh, and by good looking I mean that women have too look like women, I don't mean the androgynous "safe horny" kind of good looking).
@@kaisersoymilk6912 Imagine telling an actual game developer who works in the industry that games can't be sexy anymore. Like, we both know you now it's wrong, but why would you ever think a game developer would buy what you're selling?
I’m sick and tired of hiding these grifters’ channels only for them to pop up again a month or so later. Some hbomberguy level research and presentation here. Subscribing 👍
Commander Stephanie Sterling Is a force of nature when it comes to left-leaning creators in the gaming space. She gets a lot of hate for being trans. I would rather people criticize that her videos often beat a dead horse, however solid her points are. Grievances aside, she's got a strong voice, and her writing is consistently top-notch.
I fell down this rabbit hole so hard, started when I began watching Mauler videos when the Star Wars sequel trilogy came out, then all of a sudden *boom* recommendations for gamergate stuff turned into ClownfishTV and all this other anti-woke nonsense that's essentially just man-children whining about action figures from the 80s. But the worst was yet to come, because after that TH-cam starts recommending you Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, and if you don't think critically about it, you realize you're just in this insane rightwing grifter echo chamber. Glad I got better, but it was a struggle.
Fell down the same type of rabbit hole, around 2015-2018. Vids from the skeptic community and the initial gamergate wave sucked me in. Though i didnt comment and only consumed, it took me a while to break through the BS. Couple that with me being in my late teens going into adulthood. I think alot of people like to give off an air of superiority or hide it, but there are many that went through this "phase".
I would often watch star wars theory videos in which whilst he was very critical of the sequel trilogy, he would still try to see the positives and I liked him for it. I didn't love the sequel trilogy but there was *some* interesting stuff in there. But everytime I watched him, Mauler and the others would pop up even if I put down I wasn't interested. The algo was destined for me to be with him. In the end, I stopped watching theory because it would just invade my screen with these types of people. It's a shame and I don't know if he's made the pivot at any point, but it makes you become bitter of all content, rather than seeing people on here who just want to talk about media and culture in a nuanced manner.
It's tiring isn't it? Honestly to me lately more and more channels like this one are being recommended to me again. It's maybe only because I've reported and "don't recommend" most of them
Algorithm hygiene is something that will be needed to be taught in the future. My Facebook algorithm just devolved into an endless stream of conspiracy bullshit, and it was partly my fault for engaging with that content. So everywhere else, I just push the "do not recommend" button at the slightest suspicion. It mostly works, although you have to be constant because it never fucking ends.
What helped me clean my recommendations (actual small channels and less ad driven youtubers) is a chrome extension i use in brave called DeArrow, it un click baits the title and thumbnail of videos and auto skips filler, ads and self promotion. You can even submit your own title recommendations and whatnot for other people.
The weird thing about Andypants is he brings religion in when talking about video games like he’ll say things like games use to be made be good Christian men and I’m like 1 how could you possibly know that and 2 what does someone’s religion have to do with game development.
I’ve (46) decided to turn my channel into a space for bonding with my son,(26) leaving behind the commentary videos that once brought in views. Bonding with my son, who was born with Asperger's syndrome and later diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in his teens, through gaming shared moments go beyond views, algorithms and monetization. Having in-depth, philosophical, intellectual conversations about the games we play, sharing with him the Sci-Fi tapestry that is Cyberpunk 2077, is invaluable. This is my contribution back to the gaming community.
The right wing has always hated gaming, remember all the Christians outraging at GTA, or any games with violence. They've just changed their target to DEI or basically anything that doesn't just have white characters. It does feel though that there has been a shift in the big companies, even 10-15 years ago you could tell that there was people and developers that were truly passionate about what they were making and wanted to not only entertain but have interesting stories with interesting characters. I think thats why indie games are so popular at the moment, you can genuinely feel the passion they have for their art form and it doesn't just feel like its only goal is to maximise profits. I dont think the shift should be to just making games that try and be mindless entertainment and "apolitical" , but instead i want to see more smaller independant developers make games about things they truly care about, All the big gaming companies are basically all American run and perpetuate the same Neo libral status quo nonsense, I want to see a greater diversity in the types of people that makes these games. having games made by African, or Indian companies would be really cool, and make the amount of games just so much more intresting, it would feel like theres a game for everyone and there would be.
I don't know how you said that they changed on DIE since these very old commentators were literally opposed to pastors trying to ban games because of their violence. Moreover the religious folks back in late 2000's were not gamers at all, they were clueless about the industry they were fear mongering. This is not the case for these guys and girls who are decades old gamers.
@@novinceinhosic3531 Isn't it weird though how the second they start talking about video games they have absolutely no idea what they're saying and constantly make objectively incorrect statements though, on top of the fact that they lie about the "woke" video games they talk about as well? Strange.
@@novinceinhosic3531 Have you ever heard of Genwunners? They're insufferable "old fans" of Pokemon who whine and cry like babies the second ANYTHING changes. Genwunners cried because Gold/Silver starts in Johto and the post-game Kanto is scrunched down for space limitations. Genwunners cried about how in Crystal you can select a girl character (a staple of the series now!) and about rebalancing and adding in new moves. Your "seniority" in the gaming sphere doesn't make you more capable of being correct than newer players, but it sure makes you more capable of being *_wrong_* than a new gamer just because They Changed It Now It Sucks.
@neoqwerty I'm not familiar with the Pokemon scene since I don't particularly like the IP, the type of games in the series, not I've played many Japanese titles. From what I could gather about Genwunner, it doesn't seem to be a fitting analogy. There is a big difference between a small section of gamers that got stuck with certain mechanics that they considered to be the best and observing a progressive trend in the gaming industry for the past 15 years. This can be best observed in franchises which I myself saw degrading title after title. I'm not saying that differences in tastes aren't a thing, old God of War players may not like the new God of War, while the opposite, new God of War players may not like the old ones, it's perfectly normal as the IP has changed, both in gameplay and even general presentation, but then if you compare the new God of War with titles around the same years and with similar content and then take a step back and see the general trend, then you can clearly that the trend exists. Seniority does matter, as I have younger family members and I see what preferences they have and how's their relation to older titles. There is a total shift between generations and mostly is caused by how people are introduced into industry by the flood of trendy content.
The funnest thing about gamer gate is the posts where people complain about women in games not being "sexy" enough often exposing the posters lack of knowledge of basic female anatomy, like the famous aloy twitter post where a guy complained about aloy having tiny little facial hairs, if you do not know that women can develop slight facial hair you have never gotten close to a woman before.
It's funny you mention that. I was playing Horizon Zero Dawn (The remastered version) the other day, and I looked at Aloy's face and went "wow, that's such impressive detail to see some of the hair on her face". I then had the immediate thought that I'm sure people would have complained about this, so I had a quick google search and sure enough... It becomes a big drama. Completely missed me by, but why can't that be celebrated?! I was just amazed that someone would bother to do that.
It's not just individual YTers or the algorithm, a big part of it is that _because_ it's all shallow, vibes-based stuff and nobody cares about self-contradiction, it's easily spread. Shaun's recent video on Stellar Blade demonstrated how hundreds of those kind of videos were created from just 2 sources, and how most of those vids were just someone nodding along to somebody's else takes. It was ridiculously easy to check that both of those sources were wrong, and the narrative built around them was ridiculous, but, as far as gg2.0 is concerned, why bother? The vibes they want are there, and facts are minor details anyway. The problem (for the right-wingers) is that while this "just nod along to the vibes" strategy lets them dominate the media (even pre-internet, remember Rush Limbaugh's Dittoheads?) it all falls apart once there are actual stakes and actual power politics.
You know, I've only ever seen/heard the "fucking pronouns" part of the rant. I never saw his gameplay or the fact that he created himself to put in the game. So to put it another way, he created a self-insert but was ranting that an NB would be able to do the same with pronoun choice
Whenever i see any of that GanerGate related garbage, i slap in that "Do Not Recommend" like a can of Raid. Too many of these frauds, if ya ask me. Amazing video, btw.
Let's be honest, Andy doesn't think Indiana Jones is woke because he gets to play as a straight white guy who always gets the girl. That's the problem with these grifters and conservatives. They only see Woke when there is a person of color or a woman they aren't attracted to as the main characters. Look at how suddenly ASSASSIN'S CREED is supposed to be a faithful historical adaptation just because a Black man is one of the main characters. Even though the character is Literally based on a historical figure. But now all of these would-be gamergaters will write paragraphs on how Yasuke wasn't a real samurai and it was just a formality.
@@DrJoeLovelace The funny thing is it is indeed by their definition, they just don’t realize it when it’s old work because they have no media literacy.
The issue these days is that the gaming journalists are little more than paid shills, and the reviews became absurd. Games are failing of their own accord, as they usually do.
ah they? i'd question that narrative too. i reckon are paid but most are not. so saying journolist with no criteria makes it sound like you mean all when its very clear its not. you need to use precise language.
@@kudosbudo Fair enough. And who is and isn't a 'journalist' can be debated. But we're in agreement that it's more of a late stage capitalist thing than a PRONOUNS!! thing why big companies are coming out with games that people don't seem to want.
There have always been good and bad journalists and publications in the games/gaming space from the literal beginning of the industry. Shilling and poor journalism, or meaningless reviews, are not a unique element of “things today” and to be honest I can’t say that things are worse today in that regard than they were before. IGN scores were infamous in the 2000s. “Terribly boring, everything is broken. 8/10” was a common joke about game reviews when I was a literal child. And back then, a lot of the shilling was printed on paper and you paid money for it. At least now, any independent would-be journalist or critic has multiple pathways to self publish and promote their work
@@oneilprovost2287 The main egregious thing with game reviews is less the shilling and more the review score inflation. 5/10 should be average, not "it's bad, but it's playable". That should be like a 3/10. 7.5/10 shouldn't be "eh it's average"! (or in the case of Pokemon Ruby/Emerald, "there was too much water in Hoenn IMO" 7/10 too much water)
I'm now stuck trying to figure out how the gamer gate movement would've viewed the eu4 mod anbennar since it's got countries that are very feudalistic, mysogonistic or worse but also things like feminist religious organisations and the ability to create genderless people with magic(there is a lot more depth to its religions, countries and peoples but I doubt gamer gate types would actually look that deep)
Gamer gate is at least smarter than comicgate. That whole movement was basically used for no names to trick people into giving them money for their mid ass comic books.
woke people are complaining about games with good character designs, like marvel rivals. i also dislike people complaining about wokism but woke people are far more annoying.
@@stevenbishop1782 if it’s rainbow capitalism then that could be the only thing other times it could because the game itself isn’t good from the gameplay or story and less to do with character designs
I think you overlooked first thing that we as Europeans can't argue at all. Americans aren't Europeans. They live in similar yet strongly different circumstances in economics and in society. I remember watching Ben Shapiro's hard interview with Andrew Neil on BBC. That is a clear cut between our positions in almost all aspects of life.
It's still hilarious to me all these months later that Pronouns Man, a self-professed super fan of the Tennant era of Doctor Who went ballistic over a plot in Starfield about a woman who's a clone of a man, calling it part of the modern woke Californian agenda. Somehow forgetting the Doctor's Daughter, a Tennant era Doctor Who episode about a woman who's a clone of a man. Oh well, grifters gonna grift.
I'm still highly confused how he managed to get away with saying "I want to play a video game about exploring the vastness of space hundreds of years in the future," and that DIDN'T involve meeting species that may or may not have specified genders, and that hundreds of years from now, our present day idea of "gender" may be broadened enough that "pronouns" make more sense to express that. Apparently he thought "exploring the vastness of space" should be defined by "blue women wearing bikinis?" What is this, first season of OG Star Trek?
Every time I see those pronouns freakout I secretly hope that one day they make a game that as a joke allows a "no pronoun" choice, which would remove every pronoun in texts and dialogues and result in grammatically incomplete and incomprehensible sentences, and then watch these people's reactions.
0:10 he’s actually correct, but not for the reasons that he thinks lol (Forcing people in the closet to disclose pronouns will either be forced to lie about their preferred pronouns or be outed).
@ hmmm… tricky question. There is a lot of bias due to the influence of the games publishers and platforms. So much can get ‘claimed’ if games get cast in a bad light. I’m into soulslikes and fightincowboy has a large catalogue of playthroughs. Plus I’ve played Zeldas since forever and zeltic comes up with some good theories on lore. I suspect there is space out there for more deep dives. I find it interesting how many film theory channels there are on here and relatively few on the same level about games.
@@DrJoeLovelace Aegon of Astoria is an occasional poster on Souls games, he's very thoughtful and often references Foucault and others, well worth a view.
@@Para2normal There's Rosencreutzzz (his display's just Rosencreutz), who's probably the only milsim leftist I ever stumbled on. It was a massive stroke of luck and I'm pretty sure my algorithm pushed him to me only because I binged Veritas et Caritas and Cambrian Chronicles and the robots got genre-confused between "history" and "military sim games".
Excellent video, very put together and well researched. Your point on how these channels feel repetitive and baseless is what I’ve been feeling about them for a while and honestly while they have made discourse around games and movies much worse, they made me realize how dumb I was back in 2016 because I while I was not harassing anyone, I did enjoy those roasts of sjws since they seemed pretentious from the lens I was given of them at the time. When channels like Andy and Drinker began talking about things that I myself experienced I realized how off they were and it eventually led me to leaving the fanbases for these type of reactionary channels and focus on more deeper analysis. Btw idk if you watched the video, but a channel called Crimes New Roman released a vid talking about how we should experience more things ourselves and I feel it really fits this discussion with the grifters out there feeding false narratives
He's right. Gotta make a game where you can leave the pronounce empty. Let NPCs use definite article or some thing like that. Challenge regressives with more progress!
@Peasham I know. But very little of it is "woke". In fact you could play through the whole game as a straight character, kill the Nightsong, and never see a single bit of "woke"
@@The_Ragequit_Cannon Male characters flirt with you even if you're a dude and female characters flirt with you even if you're a chick constantly what are you talking about
Really liked this new type of gaming focussed video, keep it up :) I feel like calling someone a commie is a very American thing, I've not really seen it that much as a Brit. Also, I feel like these types of non-woke folk are allergic to acknowledging nuance: it either is or isn't, much better A therefore B can't exist, without acknowledging that not only can 2 things be true at the same time, but there's also a sliding scale or spectrum of trueness, if I'm making any sense. I've found this aspect of these kinds of people the most difficult to get around during discussions.
The commie thing stems from what's called "McCarthyism" McCarthy was a politician during the cold war era who got fame and power by creating a kind of satanic panic-like moral outrage based on the fear of "rising communism" It became so prevalent that it had neighbors reporting neighbors because they thought they were communist spy's. It was basically the Salem Witch Trials but with communism. His little fake freak out is singularly why U.S. culture is so negative towards anything even remotely socialist to this day. Like food stamps are considered "communism" here. It's insane.
I truly hope that the speech about profits over fun at the Gaming Awards last year will open these kinds of people‘s eyes to the fundamental problems of the industry. We have bigger fish to fry, nobody cares about what pronouns you go by in a game.
The issue with this thesis is that games where about profit from their very inception. Remember the 1982-83? We see the difference between trends, while the profit is always there. The only difference is with regards to online platforms that allowed to easy bloating with mocro-transactions, which were the logical conclusion since the dawn of MMOs and beginning to take shape by late 2000's. Games will never ever be about anything else but profit and people understand that, that's why it's pointless to criticize a game for the micros, as you can just do the math and calculate the final product price at the very end. If it's sold for 60, but to be fully playable you need 90, then you shall consider it a 90$ game and judge it as such.
to the best of my knowledge the only complaint I ever saw that is even plausible to throw it. Anita is not understanding that in the hitman level where you can illuminate adult dancers, you actually get punished for doing so, but I don’t even know if that argument is 100% legitimate. I used to think her tags were stupid now I just don’t care.
Two small corrections. As odious and bigoted they may have been. Gamergate did have a fair point about the nature of videogame journalism at the time. And the real mastermind behind using gamers as rightwing foot soldiers wasn't Bannon. It was Milo Yiannopolis.
It's a movement that took place in the middle of the last decade. Its premise at first was fair and one could argue politically neutral: to make gaming journalism feel more professional, since for years companies had been feeding money to these media outlets to inflate their review scores. However, extreme conservatives quickly took over the movement and used it to harass those same journalists over feminism and minorities, which at first had nothing to do with the movement but quickly became the main talking point. And after journalists came everyone else, there's a good reason "I'm a gamer because I hate women and minorities" became such a widespread meme, and it all has its roots here. Of course, when people talk about reviving Gamergate they talk about this latter version about harassment, queerphobia and the likes, those original talking points about fair journalism not swayed by companies have been long lost.
Girl dev slept around with an amount of journos for exposure. One guy on twitter made a joke about it by calling it "Gamergate" Games Press tried to sent the message they do have integrity, but they forgot about their access journalism. People started to react on it by memes and journo got angry by making articles about it. In the end, trust in game journalism is gone.
@@Wesmoen Correction, she was accused of doing that by an ex boyfriend. The Journalist she supposedly slept with for positive reviews did not meet her till at least 2 months after the review, and he was reviewing a free game.
I make videos about a soviet city builder Workers and Resources : Soviet Republic. Does that count? I try and express my politics in a less direct manner on the TH-cam thru that.
I made the mistake of showing interest in a game and like clockwork the algorithm put a unch of grifters rage farming on my feed. It might helps to point out that most of the time the people spouting this nonsense have not played the game.
Apperantly to these folks it failed so much that they are goin on about it and following the same play book from the first time. GG isn't happening. And if it is, it'll fail. And if it doesn't, then it'll a hate movement. And if it's not, truth be damned.
@@Krensharpaw Yes, with one side of their mouth they say that games fail because gamers are brainwashed by hateful grifters (not because they're bad games that nobody wants), but with the other side they say that GG2 failed. Typical gaslighting. And the fact that I'm a leftist myself makes me hate their gaslighting even more.
"Our sociopolitical movement is now well-know as being a grift? B-but, this one game failed, surely it was because of us, people who don't play video games!"
@@Peasham I think you mean anti-GG which was long since showed to be done by some people you would never dare defend now a days who did much of this for money.
Is it weird how i haven’t seen many lefty’s with over 1,000,000 subs just a few years after they started yet right wingers get launched into the homepage very quickly?
To me, the US has always been a bane to video games (everything really) as much as the corporate side as the "player base". Pretty sure 99% of the misguided negativity comes from there, it always create more problems than solutions and it's a pain to discuss/reason with. I think that most American talents will always be sabotaged in a way or an other as they have been for decades now. Japan has always been the strongest in the industry except during the 7th gen, followed by Europe Otherwise, I'm over-saturated with great games, since I play almost every genre, for me to complain! On another note, I recommend to you "Mortismal Gaming". I think he is a great reviewer who simply loves video games and couldn't care less about the "drama".
My stance is boycott everything when the lore consistentcy, if the devs attack customers, or hypes a game up and it turns out crap I boycotted Bethesda except Doom Titles they ruined Wolfenstein, and Quake is dead so Doom it is.
I do find the Anti woke crowd to be obnoxious. But i think Trump winning and high profile games like Concord and Dragon Age Veilguard underperforming will only fuel them to think the tides are in their favor. We even see companies dropping DEI and outwardly pandering to that side. So i think its worse than Gamergate, since back then companies called them out or ignored them.
Veilguard is the studio's fastest and highest-selling game, regardless, Baldur's Gate is one of the best selling games of the 2020's. And considering they're lying about what DEI is, that's not saying much.
Don't like to admit it as right leaning person but liberals/progressives are just better at making roleplaying games, look at Disco Elysium, a Roleplaying game so good it created it's own mini rpg subgenre of point and click RPGs(a few examples of this subgenre are Citizen Sleeper, Saturn and I think Encased), and it was made by self proclaimed Marxists, or Baldurs Gate 3, a Roleplaying game so good even the most staunch anti woke person on YT, synthetic man(don't agree with his politics, he takes things too far), had to admit that the game is good despite being woke in his view. So Ig that's why I try to watch "woke" video game essayists, helps keep the mind open, because I was proven wrong in my biases before when I thought only anti woke people can make good games and video game essays 😅
yo know i don't care anymore to me actman is no more than pitch and weasel pantsman is also a pitch all most all games related tubers are all they do is one of these four a. get T-boned by big studio in their abs and get free ticket to disney land then join free lan party with foods n drinks to rate game 7-9.5/10 b. shill the product no matter how bad so gaslighting the people into thinking it actually good and make some early bird money honey c. make haha funny video about why half-baked game is bad and then shift blame onto big studio even if them were contracted to promote it in first place d. hates a game for existing because of bland then when it comes out and turn to be garbage or disliked by bland group he pats themselves on back and it keeps saying "I told you so" and "it was just a tip" i go play RA3 and skyrim for 1000th time i guess moderns game are dead to me
Just my genuine two cents. You're thinking about video games the wrong way. I'm personally having a blast for the past 12years and I think the past 2 years have been some of the best in gaming. Just don't listen to any reviewers their words are not end all be all, be your own judge. Try every genres, the 10/10 games but also the 5/10 ones, indie game, triple AAA, new and older releases. There's honestly a bazillion great games out there (I have a backlog worth a lifetime with just the past 3years alone), stay open minded and have fun! If skyrim is the only game that works for you there's nothing wrong with that but if you really want to try something new don't be afraid to step out of your bubble!
@@Nyumich its fine friend you are entitled to your opinion i just sick of all bs big studio wrap around perfectly good games otherwise like 150gb+ size lack optimized graphics so on and oh wait the older game was better if modded to suit my needs become natural occurrence e.g. stalker anomaly vs stalker 2 but an exception which is shadow of war is the goat it trumps the Prequel don't get me wrong i played newer releases The Iron Oath, conquest of eo, edf 6, hitman 3 and i try find to old or new obscure games like take iron oath its basically Baldur gate 3 combat but i only install 2gb to play, the story it's written, there is events, classes and dungeons to raid plus i went from core 2 duo hd 5450 to ryzen 5 gtx 1660 super back in 2019 i'm not upgrading anytime soon so yea i can still use frame gen using mods or lossless scaling for older games
@@zakazanyphoenix3573I think there's a misunderstanding, I'm not entitled I respect your opinion it's just that you felt a bit down so I wanted to share my passion and my way of thinking towards video games! I'm making you a list: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, Balatro, Lorelai and the laser eyes, UFO50, FF7 Rebirth, Romancing Saga 2, Persona 3: Reload, Pacific Drive, Unicorn Overlord, Silent Hill 2, Alone in the Dark, Rise of the Ronin, Mullet Madjack, Animal Well, Manor Lord, Astro Bot, What the car, Gimmick 2, Ravenswatch, Windblown, Thronefall, All the Nightdive and Aspyr remasters (except the battlefront collection), Tiny glade, Metal Slug Tactics, Slitterhead, Indiana Jones: The Great Circle, Kunitsu-Gami (my GOTY), Tiny Glade, Symphonia, Neva, Metaphor: Refantazio, Echo Point Nova, Mouthwashing, Indika, anything that nintendo also released probably. It's not even half of the games I find interesting and/or played from 2024 alone but I'll stop here, It's a good mixture of different genres and studios. There could be a least one game that you may like
very nice list impressive collection you got there so i would to share my own small list as sign of gratitude System Shock remake - DREDGE Fate/Samurai Remnant - Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance - archon great coop roughlite or solo for whose who dares Granblue Fantasy: Relink & Tales of Arise w/dlcs the mods for these are insane i did look up most the game i only played Ting Glade you suggested Kunitsu-Gami i find busy body for my taste i did saved the list on desktop though i would like to download of all these games the only problem i am bandwidth limited to only 140 gb a month i already spent this 75% of this month, internet is 60% more expensive than last year so repack is better for achieving games for me thankyou again for insight and the games
@@zakazanyphoenix3573 I understand we don't have the same living conditions and that's a shame! Gaming has a huge history and an infinite list of great games. It can be overwhelming and difficult to find all the smaller new releases in a given year Anyway, have fun and I wish you the best!
For a left wing coalition you have called for should be called "Game-Keepers". One reason is that i prefer my games in a physical format cause digital only, DRM, always Online thing has kept me from buying a new game for a least a year.
Only issue it wasnt all that baseless. The chick in question did sleep with journos for good reviews for her crappy game and thats not getting into the chick herself being a snake in the grass type.
Ah yes it’s always capitalism’s fault……hiring the people progressives said was a good thing and should keep happening and then said hires make a bad product……so I guess if I’m right wing and make terrible products it’ll blame capitalism not me. Look I just dislike devs hating on people who don’t share their same political views, I hate people who get upset you don’t judge them individually but instead collectively meanwhile they do it to you but it’s ok. I’m tired of just disagreeing with how something is done I not even hating something but just giving an opinion and seen as a bad person. Doesn’t matter if it’s the right or the left, kinda funny how leftist kinda reminds me of me if all the pearl clutching conservatives during the early 2000s and gaming. Ok so you wanna have more diversity ok good, can’t hide behind it everytime someone has a criticism. I don’t care about gamergate anti SJW pro SJW I’m tired of all this sh*t. The left brought us here pushing people further to echo chambers because the tiniest critique was deem problematic. And the cultural Marxism thing is just nazis is abounding the criticism that culture is used to spread ideas, it’s funny how the left deny it but also say it’s a good thing if it’s happening they just don’t use that term. I agree we need better critique but holy hell people act like the left is just innocent angels you should never judge , all right leaning things are evil
@@bigdog973 It really was. Atleast to alot of people it was on the internet. That's why you get the memes about SJW's saying "This is the male fantasy" or the drama that happened on Tumblr. I'm sure there were grifters but there are some on both sides of the political spectrum.
The biggest thing i remember about anita was the quote "Everything is sexist, everything is racist and you need to point it all out" And if i remember rightly, she was earning 6 figures, because she kept pushing this incredibly harmful lie Then the feminists got involved at it became a meme war, gamers sick of being villainised for their hobby vs women who hate seeing men happy, what a battle that turned out to be. And the end result of gamergate was the exposing of the industry pressure from these incredibly harmful, radically left wing groups and how widespread they were. All of this has harmed the industry so much that many devs now have given up on narrative entirely and just pander to these groups entirely.
You remember incorrectly, because that "everything is sexist" quote was taken out of context. A full version is "I sort of joke about how it was the most liberating thing that ever happened to me and also the most frustrating for everyone around me, because like when you start learning about systems everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out to everyone all the time, so there is a good year of my life. There is a good year in my life where I was just the most obnoxious person to be around. And then you settle into it, you start to understand like oh people they can live within the systems and it was just sort of liberating movement for me and you learn how to pick and choose your battles and that sort of thing." So no, she wasn't claiming that everything was racist/sexist. She was talking about a previous point in her life where she was being overzealous and lacked full understanding of the issues. I have plenty of criticisms against Anita, but "she said *everything* is racist and sexist" is a lie pushed by GamerGaters.
@Gina817 ah, interesting take, thanks for the Info. Can you see how easy this would be to believe though? Especially as something like intersectional feminism was popular at the time and pushed the very same message the same with the social justice movement altogether, their ideology genuinely believed that things like racism, sexism, misogyny and homophobia were so prevelant in society that they began pressuring governments to introduce new laws and push societal reforms based upon their views. when they couldn't find evidence for their claims, they just would bully anyone who disagreed with them into silence, including videogame companies, universities and so many more
@@mickieg1994 Sorry to sound accusatory, but that sounds more like an inability to research on your part than anything to do with feminism. Can you even define intersectional feminism?
Yeah it was very funny when she said that quote which was explicitly a joke, as we can see by her and everyone else in that room laughing about it. But yes, please keep saying for profit companies not owned by their workers are left-wing, definitely not embarrassing yourself.
Right wing you mean normal takes? Yeah you took off your mask off and revealed who you really are. Yet another puppet that doesnt see what is right in front of them and ignores the evidence that he can regularly find on youtube. I can see why your channel struggles to grew. Stick to making fallout videos when you do I will subscribe back, until then unsubscribe.
he's been like this for quite sometime i've only seen his political stuff if what you say about Fallout is true, then i've never seen any of them here on this channel 🤷♂
th-cam.com/video/gTPFx5xn0eQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zGMoIZk0syG1vV7P A bit long I know but I think this is a great example of bringing a leftist perspective to video game analysis
This video isn't very good. I should know. I been following 'The Failed Resurrection of #GamerGate' since the beginning. Sir Andy(no)Pants isn't even part of this 'resurrection' he just riding the wave of stupidity that people like Grummz (who has taken over 500k + to make a game 8 + years ago and hasn't even made a full demo for the game) and Smash JT (who was one of the 'shills' for Tommy Tallarico The guy from H. Bomberguy's ROBLOX_OOF.mp3 video) have established online. AndyPants Gaming is just someone so 'masked off' that the focus is taken away from the real source of this 'resurrection'.
The funniest part about that baby face guy was that he was so hyped for Starfield as if it were some innovative new RPG experience but the pronouns ruined that for him
For context:
No, the pronouns didn't make go to do his rant. He legitimately tried to put hours into the game. He was quite dismissal about the pronouns part in the creator. Confused, but not world ending.
The game started to stop being fun to him when he jokingly started add in stereotypical "leftish" things. Which most of them came out. His immersion got broken by the writing of the game.
He tapped out around six hours in.
This is the context many don't talk about and just take the rant as the full context.
@@Wesmoen
The pronouns part of the game is exclusively found in the character creator, he was playing the game for the first time when he had the freak out. Literally making his character, idk what you're even talking about, did we watch the same video?
@@tree4318 Rubbing in his eyes and saying you should be able to skip that part in a calmly manner?
Check his livestreams and you'll find out.
@@tree4318 i didnt even notice the pronouns when making a character lol,do it clearly isnt a step you MUST do before creating character
@@tree4318 in the livestream he just rubbed his eyes and asked in a calmly matter why preferred pronouns were on by default.
Quite relaxed if you asked me.
You’re so right about this type of content being shoved down people’s throats on TH-cam. I’ve never watched any of their videos yet still get constant reminders!
This phenomenon makes "devolution" look legitimate.
TH-cam in general spreads fascist and right-wing channels. No moral website would allow people like Asmongold, Sargon of Akkad or the Daily Wire.
I used to watch some of these videos back in 2018/2019/2020 out of couriosity before I realized what they where doing, never managed to watch a full 15 minute videos of one of these guys.
Hey, I'm a big fan of your video.
@@UdinJibral
Same here.
I remember back in the day, Gamergate was allegedly started to demand for better journalistic integrity. So when I noticed reviews with disclosures to clarify if they have had any kind of relationship with a developer for transparency I was like "Well, that was the goal, right guys?"
And then they started attacking women, queer people and people of colour who worked in the industry. And then all the TH-camrs who were covering Gamergate started to talk about how Islam is invading the UK. And it was like "Oh wow, this entire debacle has been a successful psy op".
True that.
Like, yeah, they did expose that there *was* a concerted effort to smear detractors and that most mainstream games journalists were in whisper networks to collaborate on promoting certain narratives and circle the wagons to protect their own, something that is *still* a problem like how Naughty Dog hired an IGN journalist in exchange for positive coverage or how they refused to report on an ally of theirs bullying an ex to self un-alive.
But the takeaway for the critics isn't that this is happening, but that "woke" people are doing this, as if them being woke was the bigger problem there.
@@crazyinsane500 Im pretty sure people were talking about the dodgy relationship between journalists and publishers long before Gamergate started a moral panic. I think Sterling made at least 4 videos about it pre gamergate.
Also, who are you talking about? An ally of Naughty Dog?
Sargon of Akkad in a shellnut
And I swear gamergate is what led to the TH-cam alt-right pipeline. I never saw any of the right-wing like Ben Shapiro types or anything being suggested to me until after all the gamergating nonsense. I never watched a single gamergate video. I never watched in Anita sarkeesian video. I never watched anything like that but then right when gamergate was at its peak I started getting all of the critical drinker guys videos recommended and all of these other people
TH-camrs blaming DEI for why games are bad is like complaining about your house being unliveable because you have an annoying neighbour…
And not the fact that the roof is falling apart, the rooms are full of mold, the landlord is raising your rent prices, there’s a skeleton in the basement, and the entire house itself is built on top of a massive sinkhole ready to collapse at any given moment.
But that neighbour is sure annoying though.
Sadly people follow those idiots that whine about dei …. Sigh
And the neighbor is only annoying because they asked if you needed help with moving in your stuff.
And yet games with no DEI keep succeeding.
the details of the house were amazing thank you 👍
@Godzilla_Star_Eater Like Metaphor? and how do you know Astro bot has no DEI hires?
I’m genuinely embarrassed that I used to believe these people’s utter tripe and even moderated one of their servers for some time. But then again, it led me to where I am today watching this very video, so it was clearly worth something.
Same here; I'm glad I made it out
You took the words out of my mouth, bub. Sure, there are genuine films and games that are very far-left and alienating (I.E. Barbie, Class of 09, Life is Strange, Black Christmas 2019, the Candyman reboot, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and the crowning champion of insane far-left gobbledygook, The American Society of Magical Negroes). But thanks to "Reverse-Sarkeesians" aka. Media Grifters, the conversation surrounding the real issue of far-left politics in media has been utterly _destroyed._ And I was a victim of their warped ideals, insane double standards, and love of taking advantage of unfortunate implications in works of fiction that are just badly written.
In short, Media Grifters and the legions of parrots they've given rise to are their own worst enemy.
@@NebLleb Please explain how the candyman reboot is far left. And could you also explain how the original isn't by your definition?
yeah same, its disgusting how it can lead young people so easily into this rabbit hole
Yeah
seeing gamergate make a resurgence makes me want to interact with the communities for games that I play more, especially to act as a role model that I didn't have when I got caught in it myself. But seeing the toxic way that the internet functions now also makes me want to just ditch the whole thing and do zero community interaction. Hard to find a balance lmao
I think Dead Domain is pretty good for thoughtful, progressive content on games and gaming culture. They do quite a lot on general political stuff, but as an active gaming streamer they have definitely done some good work on this topic, I'd definitely recommend checking out their work.
I agree
unlike the goonergate people she's actually a real gamer who appreciates the art of video games
I'll have a look!
Maybe GamerGate 2.0 should be about Elon Musk being a fake gamer richest-man-in-the-world
"The Failed Resurrection of GamerGate"
Really need to narrow down _which_ failed resurrection of GamerGate you're on about because the "culture war" grifters keep trying to make it a thing again.
And GamerGate is just resurrected anti-SJW slop reheated after it's been dug out of LiveJournal's dumpster, this shit keeps _going_ and it's _bothersome_ .
This is so true. I absolutely *hate* looking up any info for a new game on this platform.
I have to sift through so much shit to not only find an *actual* review, but one from someone who even bothered to play the game.
At this point I'd tell you you probably should look at the speedrunning community. They won't necessarily tell you if the PLOT is good, but at least they'll tell you where the game's broken and if it's fun-broken or bad-broken.
The last part. There is a baffling amount of people who just do not play the games that they badmouth.
I see so much shit thats just "woke, la woksime, bad game because woman"
When its more just
The games a buggy, unplayable mess, no ones gonna buy it because of that
The whole content is out of place. You look at video-games since 70's when they firstly came out and no such themes are ever present. Then by second half of 2010's there is a rapid shift that by less than 4 years these themes become 50% of the norm.
@novinceinhosic3531 the content isn't out of place though? Games since the 90s have had all sorts of things in them comparable to those today, fallout 1 and 2 feature gay, and lesbian characters, the content isn't "out of place" it's more just women are less sexualised in the media and so on, and social media allows for a vocal minority to be even more vocal. Most people I talk to couldn't care less about the content of a game, they care more about its quality.
@@thecarrierpigeon6657 I totally disagree. Homosexual characters are more a thing of commedy or just side characters with not too much exposition, while female characters nowadays are more sexualized than ever before. The difference is that you have either oversexualized or androgynous as women devs are ugly looking and want to reflect their appears in characters that posses a lot of power in order to compensate. You can see the same phenomenon with ugly men devs back in the day.
What is unique and has never existed before up until past mid 2010's is the corporate LGBT vibe and PC policing, these things were never a thing before 9 years ago and they only kept increasing past 2020.
@@novinceinhosic3531 Thats some weird projecting on your part my friend.
@@TheTailow what am I projecting?
As someone who actually has worked in the tech industry and game development over the last decade, these right wing reactionaries talking about game devs as if they know a god damn thing about the industry makes me rage. I have actual lived grievances about the industry, and they touch on none of them. The tech industry and in particular the video game has severe issues (Worker mistreatment, crunch, mass layoffs and studio closures, etc.), non of them are related inclusivity of the games being built. There are TH-cam channels like People Make Games that are unapologetically progressive in their messaging, but they are drowned out by the deluge of hack right wing grifters trying to make a quick buck on the platform.
Is making bad games that no-gamer would want to buy one of the grievances? Who was the audience for Concord? For S Squad K the Justice League? Who will be the audience for Fairgames?
Is this not part of your grievances? Do you think that the vast majority of gamers would want to buy games with non-sexualized characters? Why would they? Don't you think that this is a problem?
I want to be frank with you, I'm on the GG2 bandwagon EXCLUSIVELY for the ban on sexualization.
I don't care how many gay/black/disabled characters there are in a game, as long as they're good looking. I've always been progressive, maybe even too much, since I'm not the puritan kind of progressive.
(P.S. oh, and by good looking I mean that women have too look like women, I don't mean the androgynous "safe horny" kind of good looking).
@@kaisersoymilk6912 Imagine telling an actual game developer who works in the industry that games can't be sexy anymore. Like, we both know you now it's wrong, but why would you ever think a game developer would buy what you're selling?
@@kaisersoymilk6912 just because you don't buy them, doesnt mean "no gamer" will buy them. There is something everyone out there.
I’m sick and tired of hiding these grifters’ channels only for them to pop up again a month or so later.
Some hbomberguy level research and presentation here. Subscribing 👍
Commander Stephanie Sterling Is a force of nature when it comes to left-leaning creators in the gaming space. She gets a lot of hate for being trans. I would rather people criticize that her videos often beat a dead horse, however solid her points are. Grievances aside, she's got a strong voice, and her writing is consistently top-notch.
Thank God for Them
Don't forget the Hogwarts Legacy drama she was involved in. There is a reason why her subscriber count started stagnating and then going down
I fell down this rabbit hole so hard, started when I began watching Mauler videos when the Star Wars sequel trilogy came out, then all of a sudden *boom* recommendations for gamergate stuff turned into ClownfishTV and all this other anti-woke nonsense that's essentially just man-children whining about action figures from the 80s.
But the worst was yet to come, because after that TH-cam starts recommending you Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, and if you don't think critically about it, you realize you're just in this insane rightwing grifter echo chamber. Glad I got better, but it was a struggle.
Fell down the same type of rabbit hole, around 2015-2018. Vids from the skeptic community and the initial gamergate wave sucked me in. Though i didnt comment and only consumed, it took me a while to break through the BS.
Couple that with me being in my late teens going into adulthood. I think alot of people like to give off an air of superiority or hide it, but there are many that went through this "phase".
I would often watch star wars theory videos in which whilst he was very critical of the sequel trilogy, he would still try to see the positives and I liked him for it. I didn't love the sequel trilogy but there was *some* interesting stuff in there.
But everytime I watched him, Mauler and the others would pop up even if I put down I wasn't interested. The algo was destined for me to be with him. In the end, I stopped watching theory because it would just invade my screen with these types of people. It's a shame and I don't know if he's made the pivot at any point, but it makes you become bitter of all content, rather than seeing people on here who just want to talk about media and culture in a nuanced manner.
I’m glad when I was a young lad in college during gaming gate I was too busy watching five night at Freddie’s game theories.
My recommended has been ruined for years by these kinds of channels I’ve just given up on my recommended ever changing for better
It's tiring isn't it? Honestly to me lately more and more channels like this one are being recommended to me again.
It's maybe only because I've reported and "don't recommend" most of them
Algorithm hygiene is something that will be needed to be taught in the future.
My Facebook algorithm just devolved into an endless stream of conspiracy bullshit, and it was partly my fault for engaging with that content.
So everywhere else, I just push the "do not recommend" button at the slightest suspicion. It mostly works, although you have to be constant because it never fucking ends.
What helped me clean my recommendations (actual small channels and less ad driven youtubers) is a chrome extension i use in brave called DeArrow, it un click baits the title and thumbnail of videos and auto skips filler, ads and self promotion. You can even submit your own title recommendations and whatnot for other people.
The weird thing about Andypants is he brings religion in when talking about video games like he’ll say things like games use to be made be good Christian men and I’m like 1 how could you possibly know that and 2 what does someone’s religion have to do with game development.
Didn't one of the Assassin's Creed games have you fight the Pope.
I’ve (46) decided to turn my channel into a space for bonding with my son,(26) leaving behind the commentary videos that once brought in views. Bonding with my son, who was born with Asperger's syndrome and later diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in his teens, through gaming shared moments go beyond views, algorithms and monetization.
Having in-depth, philosophical, intellectual conversations about the games we play, sharing with him the Sci-Fi tapestry that is Cyberpunk 2077, is invaluable.
This is my contribution back to the gaming community.
The right wing has always hated gaming, remember all the Christians outraging at GTA, or any games with violence. They've just changed their target to DEI or basically anything that doesn't just have white characters. It does feel though that there has been a shift in the big companies, even 10-15 years ago you could tell that there was people and developers that were truly passionate about what they were making and wanted to not only entertain but have interesting stories with interesting characters. I think thats why indie games are so popular at the moment, you can genuinely feel the passion they have for their art form and it doesn't just feel like its only goal is to maximise profits. I dont think the shift should be to just making games that try and be mindless entertainment and "apolitical" , but instead i want to see more smaller independant developers make games about things they truly care about, All the big gaming companies are basically all American run and perpetuate the same Neo libral status quo nonsense, I want to see a greater diversity in the types of people that makes these games. having games made by African, or Indian companies would be really cool, and make the amount of games just so much more intresting, it would feel like theres a game for everyone and there would be.
I don't know how you said that they changed on DIE since these very old commentators were literally opposed to pastors trying to ban games because of their violence.
Moreover the religious folks back in late 2000's were not gamers at all, they were clueless about the industry they were fear mongering. This is not the case for these guys and girls who are decades old gamers.
@@novinceinhosic3531 Isn't it weird though how the second they start talking about video games they have absolutely no idea what they're saying and constantly make objectively incorrect statements though, on top of the fact that they lie about the "woke" video games they talk about as well? Strange.
@@novinceinhosic3531 Have you ever heard of Genwunners? They're insufferable "old fans" of Pokemon who whine and cry like babies the second ANYTHING changes. Genwunners cried because Gold/Silver starts in Johto and the post-game Kanto is scrunched down for space limitations. Genwunners cried about how in Crystal you can select a girl character (a staple of the series now!) and about rebalancing and adding in new moves.
Your "seniority" in the gaming sphere doesn't make you more capable of being correct than newer players, but it sure makes you more capable of being *_wrong_* than a new gamer just because They Changed It Now It Sucks.
@neoqwerty I'm not familiar with the Pokemon scene since I don't particularly like the IP, the type of games in the series, not I've played many Japanese titles. From what I could gather about Genwunner, it doesn't seem to be a fitting analogy. There is a big difference between a small section of gamers that got stuck with certain mechanics that they considered to be the best and observing a progressive trend in the gaming industry for the past 15 years. This can be best observed in franchises which I myself saw degrading title after title. I'm not saying that differences in tastes aren't a thing, old God of War players may not like the new God of War, while the opposite, new God of War players may not like the old ones, it's perfectly normal as the IP has changed, both in gameplay and even general presentation, but then if you compare the new God of War with titles around the same years and with similar content and then take a step back and see the general trend, then you can clearly that the trend exists. Seniority does matter, as I have younger family members and I see what preferences they have and how's their relation to older titles. There is a total shift between generations and mostly is caused by how people are introduced into industry by the flood of trendy content.
Absolutely devastated to hear that Dr Robotnik hasn't just secured another 8 year's worth of grifting.
Hey, don't drag the good Doctor into this! He may be a megalomaniac, but he _is_ also a feminist.
The funnest thing about gamer gate is the posts where people complain about women in games not being "sexy" enough often exposing the posters lack of knowledge of basic female anatomy, like the famous aloy twitter post where a guy complained about aloy having tiny little facial hairs, if you do not know that women can develop slight facial hair you have never gotten close to a woman before.
It's funny you mention that. I was playing Horizon Zero Dawn (The remastered version) the other day, and I looked at Aloy's face and went "wow, that's such impressive detail to see some of the hair on her face".
I then had the immediate thought that I'm sure people would have complained about this, so I had a quick google search and sure enough... It becomes a big drama. Completely missed me by, but why can't that be celebrated?! I was just amazed that someone would bother to do that.
That was bait.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is a difference between "woke" tokenism, and genuine inclusivity.
It's great to see someone talking about gaming from a socialist perspective. Keep up the good work!
It's not just individual YTers or the algorithm, a big part of it is that _because_ it's all shallow, vibes-based stuff and nobody cares about self-contradiction, it's easily spread.
Shaun's recent video on Stellar Blade demonstrated how hundreds of those kind of videos were created from just 2 sources, and how most of those vids were just someone nodding along to somebody's else takes. It was ridiculously easy to check that both of those sources were wrong, and the narrative built around them was ridiculous, but, as far as gg2.0 is concerned, why bother? The vibes they want are there, and facts are minor details anyway.
The problem (for the right-wingers) is that while this "just nod along to the vibes" strategy lets them dominate the media (even pre-internet, remember Rush Limbaugh's Dittoheads?) it all falls apart once there are actual stakes and actual power politics.
You know, I've only ever seen/heard the "fucking pronouns" part of the rant. I never saw his gameplay or the fact that he created himself to put in the game. So to put it another way, he created a self-insert but was ranting that an NB would be able to do the same with pronoun choice
This is exactly the reason Elon is pretending to be a gamer.
Whenever i see any of that GanerGate related garbage, i slap in that "Do Not Recommend" like a can of Raid. Too many of these frauds, if ya ask me. Amazing video, btw.
Let's be honest, Andy doesn't think Indiana Jones is woke because he gets to play as a straight white guy who always gets the girl.
That's the problem with these grifters and conservatives. They only see Woke when there is a person of color or a woman they aren't attracted to as the main characters.
Look at how suddenly ASSASSIN'S CREED is supposed to be a faithful historical adaptation just because a Black man is one of the main characters. Even though the character is Literally based on a historical figure. But now all of these would-be gamergaters will write paragraphs on how Yasuke wasn't a real samurai and it was just a formality.
these same people would accuse Aliens of being "woke" if the movie came out in today's world
Sci-fi = WoKe!
@@DrJoeLovelace The funny thing is it is indeed by their definition, they just don’t realize it when it’s old work because they have no media literacy.
The issue these days is that the gaming journalists are little more than paid shills, and the reviews became absurd. Games are failing of their own accord, as they usually do.
ah they? i'd question that narrative too. i reckon are paid but most are not. so saying journolist with no criteria makes it sound like you mean all when its very clear its not. you need to use precise language.
@@kudosbudo Fair enough. And who is and isn't a 'journalist' can be debated. But we're in agreement that it's more of a late stage capitalist thing than a PRONOUNS!! thing why big companies are coming out with games that people don't seem to want.
Problem is the plot on gamergate was lost YEARS ago 😂
There have always been good and bad journalists and publications in the games/gaming space from the literal beginning of the industry. Shilling and poor journalism, or meaningless reviews, are not a unique element of “things today” and to be honest I can’t say that things are worse today in that regard than they were before. IGN scores were infamous in the 2000s. “Terribly boring, everything is broken. 8/10” was a common joke about game reviews when I was a literal child. And back then, a lot of the shilling was printed on paper and you paid money for it. At least now, any independent would-be journalist or critic has multiple pathways to self publish and promote their work
@@oneilprovost2287 The main egregious thing with game reviews is less the shilling and more the review score inflation.
5/10 should be average, not "it's bad, but it's playable". That should be like a 3/10. 7.5/10 shouldn't be "eh it's average"! (or in the case of Pokemon Ruby/Emerald, "there was too much water in Hoenn IMO" 7/10 too much water)
I'm now stuck trying to figure out how the gamer gate movement would've viewed the eu4 mod anbennar since it's got countries that are very feudalistic, mysogonistic or worse but also things like feminist religious organisations and the ability to create genderless people with magic(there is a lot more depth to its religions, countries and peoples but I doubt gamer gate types would actually look that deep)
You did a great job of condensing a lot of this subject matter. Cheers for the video.
Gamer gate is at least smarter than comicgate. That whole movement was basically used for no names to trick people into giving them money for their mid ass comic books.
Comicsgate aka "we have gamergate at home"
People complaining about woke is far more annoying than whatever they think woke is
woke people are complaining about games with good character designs, like marvel rivals. i also dislike people complaining about wokism but woke people are far more annoying.
Is it anti-woke when even the lefties are avoiding the dei games?
Anti-woke people are the worst.
@ 🥱
@@stevenbishop1782 if it’s rainbow capitalism then that could be the only thing other times it could because the game itself isn’t good from the gameplay or story and less to do with character designs
I'm always telling my liberal friends they're mad at the wrong people
? Huh? Did you even watch the video?
I think you overlooked first thing that we as Europeans can't argue at all. Americans aren't Europeans. They live in similar yet strongly different circumstances in economics and in society. I remember watching Ben Shapiro's hard interview with Andrew Neil on BBC. That is a clear cut between our positions in almost all aspects of life.
It's still hilarious to me all these months later that Pronouns Man, a self-professed super fan of the Tennant era of Doctor Who went ballistic over a plot in Starfield about a woman who's a clone of a man, calling it part of the modern woke Californian agenda.
Somehow forgetting the Doctor's Daughter, a Tennant era Doctor Who episode about a woman who's a clone of a man.
Oh well, grifters gonna grift.
We all remember our first Captain Jack Harkness as well x
I'm still highly confused how he managed to get away with saying "I want to play a video game about exploring the vastness of space hundreds of years in the future," and that DIDN'T involve meeting species that may or may not have specified genders, and that hundreds of years from now, our present day idea of "gender" may be broadened enough that "pronouns" make more sense to express that. Apparently he thought "exploring the vastness of space" should be defined by "blue women wearing bikinis?" What is this, first season of OG Star Trek?
Every time I see those pronouns freakout I secretly hope that one day they make a game that as a joke allows a "no pronoun" choice, which would remove every pronoun in texts and dialogues and result in grammatically incomplete and incomprehensible sentences, and then watch these people's reactions.
They will say just what you say, that the corp are mocking them and do it on purpose.
"BEST GAME EVER! SPEAKS EXACTLY LIKE ME!!"
PRONOUNS!!!
I
You
He
She
It
We
They
Pronouns jumpscare!
0:10 he’s actually correct, but not for the reasons that he thinks lol
(Forcing people in the closet to disclose pronouns will either be forced to lie about their preferred pronouns or be outed).
Nothing says “I’m a grifter who repeated 2nd grade” like fighting against pronouns.
He is new to me and I watch a lot of gaming stuff on here. I bet he’ ll pop up now. Such are the algorithms.
Sorry if it's due to my video 😭 (P.S what do you watch? I need some decent people on here to have a look at).
@ hmmm… tricky question. There is a lot of bias due to the influence of the games publishers and platforms. So much can get ‘claimed’ if games get cast in a bad light. I’m into soulslikes and fightincowboy has a large catalogue of playthroughs. Plus I’ve played Zeldas since forever and zeltic comes up with some good theories on lore. I suspect there is space out there for more deep dives. I find it interesting how many film theory channels there are on here and relatively few on the same level about games.
@@DrJoeLovelace Aegon of Astoria is an occasional poster on Souls games, he's very thoughtful and often references Foucault and others, well worth a view.
@@Para2normal There's Rosencreutzzz (his display's just Rosencreutz), who's probably the only milsim leftist I ever stumbled on. It was a massive stroke of luck and I'm pretty sure my algorithm pushed him to me only because I binged Veritas et Caritas and Cambrian Chronicles and the robots got genre-confused between "history" and "military sim games".
Excellent video, very put together and well researched.
Your point on how these channels feel repetitive and baseless is what I’ve been feeling about them for a while and honestly while they have made discourse around games and movies much worse, they made me realize how dumb I was back in 2016 because I while I was not harassing anyone, I did enjoy those roasts of sjws since they seemed pretentious from the lens I was given of them at the time. When channels like Andy and Drinker began talking about things that I myself experienced I realized how off they were and it eventually led me to leaving the fanbases for these type of reactionary channels and focus on more deeper analysis.
Btw idk if you watched the video, but a channel called Crimes New Roman released a vid talking about how we should experience more things ourselves and I feel it really fits this discussion with the grifters out there feeding false narratives
He's right. Gotta make a game where you can leave the pronounce empty. Let NPCs use definite article or some thing like that. Challenge regressives with more progress!
Failed resurrection? Mate, its working
Baldur's Gate is one of the most successful games of the 2020's baybee
@Peasham I know. But very little of it is "woke". In fact you could play through the whole game as a straight character, kill the Nightsong, and never see a single bit of "woke"
@@The_Ragequit_Cannon Male characters flirt with you even if you're a dude and female characters flirt with you even if you're a chick constantly what are you talking about
Ubisoft is almost Bankrupt and Marvel Rivals is More popular than overwatch. These Libs are on Hopeium
Good video with great depth and quality. You need the subs.
Lol satanists? Does he want to ban Judas Priest because he thinks kids are going to commit rituals?
I said it was the resurrection of gamergate, but in actual fact it's the return of the satanic panic. All hail D&D.
DnD for life!
Really liked this new type of gaming focussed video, keep it up :)
I feel like calling someone a commie is a very American thing, I've not really seen it that much as a Brit. Also, I feel like these types of non-woke folk are allergic to acknowledging nuance: it either is or isn't, much better A therefore B can't exist, without acknowledging that not only can 2 things be true at the same time, but there's also a sliding scale or spectrum of trueness, if I'm making any sense. I've found this aspect of these kinds of people the most difficult to get around during discussions.
The commie thing stems from what's called "McCarthyism" McCarthy was a politician during the cold war era who got fame and power by creating a kind of satanic panic-like moral outrage based on the fear of "rising communism"
It became so prevalent that it had neighbors reporting neighbors because they thought they were communist spy's. It was basically the Salem Witch Trials but with communism.
His little fake freak out is singularly why U.S. culture is so negative towards anything even remotely socialist to this day. Like food stamps are considered "communism" here. It's insane.
I was fortunate enough to be to occupied by moving house when gamer gate was going on
It's not really a Gamergate. It's a Goonergate
I think Az should be forever cancelled he looks like Heavy from TF2
My youtube feed is a fucking minefield my guy its 2016 again
Commenting for the algorithm
heelvsbabyface starfield rant remix goes hard 😂😂😂
I truly hope that the speech about profits over fun at the Gaming Awards last year will open these kinds of people‘s eyes to the fundamental problems of the industry. We have bigger fish to fry, nobody cares about what pronouns you go by in a game.
The issue with this thesis is that games where about profit from their very inception. Remember the 1982-83? We see the difference between trends, while the profit is always there. The only difference is with regards to online platforms that allowed to easy bloating with mocro-transactions, which were the logical conclusion since the dawn of MMOs and beginning to take shape by late 2000's.
Games will never ever be about anything else but profit and people understand that, that's why it's pointless to criticize a game for the micros, as you can just do the math and calculate the final product price at the very end. If it's sold for 60, but to be fully playable you need 90, then you shall consider it a 90$ game and judge it as such.
Failed Resurrection????? Are you sure about that???
to the best of my knowledge the only complaint I ever saw that is even plausible to throw it. Anita is not understanding that in the hitman level where you can illuminate adult dancers, you actually get punished for doing so, but I don’t even know if that argument is 100% legitimate. I used to think her tags were stupid now I just don’t care.
Incredibly well done video, your arguments are super well expressed
Two small corrections. As odious and bigoted they may have been. Gamergate did have a fair point about the nature of videogame journalism at the time. And the real mastermind behind using gamers as rightwing foot soldiers wasn't Bannon. It was Milo Yiannopolis.
0:07 damn what happened to mr clean?
Can someone explain to me gamergate
It's a movement that took place in the middle of the last decade. Its premise at first was fair and one could argue politically neutral: to make gaming journalism feel more professional, since for years companies had been feeding money to these media outlets to inflate their review scores. However, extreme conservatives quickly took over the movement and used it to harass those same journalists over feminism and minorities, which at first had nothing to do with the movement but quickly became the main talking point. And after journalists came everyone else, there's a good reason "I'm a gamer because I hate women and minorities" became such a widespread meme, and it all has its roots here. Of course, when people talk about reviving Gamergate they talk about this latter version about harassment, queerphobia and the likes, those original talking points about fair journalism not swayed by companies have been long lost.
Girl dev slept around with an amount of journos for exposure.
One guy on twitter made a joke about it by calling it "Gamergate"
Games Press tried to sent the message they do have integrity, but they forgot about their access journalism.
People started to react on it by memes and journo got angry by making articles about it.
In the end, trust in game journalism is gone.
@@Wesmoen Correction, she was accused of doing that by an ex boyfriend. The Journalist she supposedly slept with for positive reviews did not meet her till at least 2 months after the review, and he was reviewing a free game.
I make videos about a soviet city builder Workers and Resources : Soviet Republic. Does that count? I try and express my politics in a less direct manner on the TH-cam thru that.
I made the mistake of showing interest in a game and like clockwork the algorithm put a unch of grifters rage farming on my feed.
It might helps to point out that most of the time the people spouting this nonsense have not played the game.
Failed, really? It seems that GG2 is going strong, while the the slop producers are failing like flies. Ubisoft is almost bankrupt.
Apperantly to these folks it failed so much that they are goin on about it and following the same play book from the first time.
GG isn't happening.
And if it is, it'll fail.
And if it doesn't, then it'll a hate movement.
And if it's not, truth be damned.
@@Krensharpaw Yes, with one side of their mouth they say that games fail because gamers are brainwashed by hateful grifters (not because they're bad games that nobody wants), but with the other side they say that GG2 failed.
Typical gaslighting. And the fact that I'm a leftist myself makes me hate their gaslighting even more.
"Our sociopolitical movement is now well-know as being a grift? B-but, this one game failed, surely it was because of us, people who don't play video games!"
@@Peasham I think you mean anti-GG which was long since showed to be done by some people you would never dare defend now a days who did much of this for money.
@@Krensharpaw What are you talking about
Is it weird how i haven’t seen many lefty’s with over 1,000,000 subs just a few years after they started yet right wingers get launched into the homepage very quickly?
Hello Joe, have you seen this one?
Game Design in the Shadow of Genocide | Rasheed Abueideh
Palestine Deep Dive
I will put it on the watchlist!
Great video Joe, nice work
I feel embarrassed? for falling For that, TH-camrs, BS clarify, I’m talking about The TH-camr throwing a fit about pronouns not this TH-camr
To me, the US has always been a bane to video games (everything really) as much as the corporate side as the "player base". Pretty sure 99% of the misguided negativity comes from there, it always create more problems than solutions and it's a pain to discuss/reason with.
I think that most American talents will always be sabotaged in a way or an other as they have been for decades now.
Japan has always been the strongest in the industry except during the 7th gen, followed by Europe
Otherwise, I'm over-saturated with great games, since I play almost every genre, for me to complain!
On another note, I recommend to you "Mortismal Gaming". I think he is a great reviewer who simply loves video games and couldn't care less about the "drama".
PRONOUNS!
This is all just performative outrage and it’s hilarious.
Oh no, The People who hate Marvel Rivals are trying to Say DEI is good and Concord was better yet again. Cope&Seethe
My stance is boycott everything when the lore consistentcy, if the devs attack customers, or hypes a game up and it turns out crap I boycotted Bethesda except Doom Titles they ruined Wolfenstein, and Quake is dead so Doom it is.
I like how you named the exact game that, aside from not being crap, has everything you just complained about, that's funnny.
I got Jim Davidson recommended to me.
Don't be mean guys he has a lot on he's mind
Subscribed!
I do find the Anti woke crowd to be obnoxious. But i think Trump winning and high profile games like Concord and Dragon Age Veilguard underperforming will only fuel them to think the tides are in their favor.
We even see companies dropping DEI and outwardly pandering to that side. So i think its worse than Gamergate, since back then companies called them out or ignored them.
Veilguard is the studio's fastest and highest-selling game, regardless, Baldur's Gate is one of the best selling games of the 2020's.
And considering they're lying about what DEI is, that's not saying much.
Don't like to admit it as right leaning person but liberals/progressives are just better at making roleplaying games, look at Disco Elysium, a Roleplaying game so good it created it's own mini rpg subgenre of point and click RPGs(a few examples of this subgenre are Citizen Sleeper, Saturn and I think Encased), and it was made by self proclaimed Marxists, or Baldurs Gate 3, a Roleplaying game so good even the most staunch anti woke person on YT, synthetic man(don't agree with his politics, he takes things too far), had to admit that the game is good despite being woke in his view.
So Ig that's why I try to watch "woke" video game essayists, helps keep the mind open, because I was proven wrong in my biases before when I thought only anti woke people can make good games and video game essays 😅
I don't see how BG3 is woke.
yo know i don't care anymore to me actman is no more than pitch and
weasel pantsman is also a pitch
all most all games related tubers are
all they do is one of these four
a. get T-boned by big studio in their abs and get free ticket to disney land then join free lan party with foods n drinks to rate game
7-9.5/10
b. shill the product no matter how bad so gaslighting the people into thinking it actually good and make some early bird money honey
c. make haha funny video about why half-baked game is bad and then shift blame onto big studio even if them were contracted to promote it in first place
d. hates a game for existing because of bland then when it comes out and turn to be garbage or disliked by bland group he pats themselves on back and it keeps saying "I told you so" and "it was just a tip"
i go play RA3 and skyrim for 1000th time i guess moderns game are dead to me
Just my genuine two cents. You're thinking about video games the wrong way. I'm personally having a blast for the past 12years and I think the past 2 years have been some of the best in gaming. Just don't listen to any reviewers their words are not end all be all, be your own judge. Try every genres, the 10/10 games but also the 5/10 ones, indie game, triple AAA, new and older releases. There's honestly a bazillion great games out there (I have a backlog worth a lifetime with just the past 3years alone), stay open minded and have fun!
If skyrim is the only game that works for you there's nothing wrong with that but if you really want to try something new don't be afraid to step out of your bubble!
@@Nyumich its fine friend you are entitled to your opinion
i just sick of all bs big studio wrap around perfectly good games otherwise like 150gb+ size lack optimized graphics so on and oh wait the older game was better if modded to suit my needs become natural occurrence e.g. stalker anomaly vs stalker 2 but an exception which is
shadow of war is the goat it trumps the Prequel
don't get me wrong i played newer releases The Iron Oath, conquest of eo, edf 6, hitman 3 and i try find to old or new obscure games
like take iron oath its basically Baldur gate 3 combat but i only install 2gb to play, the story it's written, there is events, classes and dungeons to raid
plus i went from core 2 duo hd 5450 to ryzen 5 gtx 1660 super back in 2019 i'm not upgrading anytime soon so yea i can still use frame gen using mods or lossless scaling for older games
@@zakazanyphoenix3573I think there's a misunderstanding, I'm not entitled I respect your opinion it's just that you felt a bit down so I wanted to share my passion and my way of thinking towards video games!
I'm making you a list: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, Balatro, Lorelai and the laser eyes, UFO50, FF7 Rebirth, Romancing Saga 2, Persona 3: Reload, Pacific Drive, Unicorn Overlord, Silent Hill 2, Alone in the Dark, Rise of the Ronin, Mullet Madjack, Animal Well, Manor Lord, Astro Bot, What the car, Gimmick 2, Ravenswatch, Windblown, Thronefall, All the Nightdive and Aspyr remasters (except the battlefront collection), Tiny glade, Metal Slug Tactics, Slitterhead, Indiana Jones: The Great Circle, Kunitsu-Gami (my GOTY), Tiny Glade, Symphonia, Neva, Metaphor: Refantazio, Echo Point Nova, Mouthwashing, Indika, anything that nintendo also released probably.
It's not even half of the games I find interesting and/or played from 2024 alone but I'll stop here, It's a good mixture of different genres and studios. There could be a least one game that you may like
very nice list impressive collection you got there so i would to share my own small list as sign of gratitude
System Shock remake - DREDGE
Fate/Samurai Remnant - Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance - archon great coop roughlite or solo for whose who dares
Granblue Fantasy: Relink & Tales of Arise w/dlcs the mods for these are insane
i did look up most the game i only played Ting Glade you suggested Kunitsu-Gami i find busy body for my taste i did saved the list on desktop though
i would like to download of all these games the only problem i am bandwidth limited to only 140 gb a month i already spent this 75% of this month, internet is 60% more expensive than last year
so repack is better for achieving games for me
thankyou again for insight and the games
@@zakazanyphoenix3573 I understand we don't have the same living conditions and that's a shame!
Gaming has a huge history and an infinite list of great games. It can be overwhelming and difficult to find all the smaller new releases in a given year
Anyway, have fun and I wish you the best!
For a left wing coalition you have called for should be called "Game-Keepers". One reason is that i prefer my games in a physical format cause digital only, DRM, always Online thing has kept me from buying a new game for a least a year.
the beginning account of gamergate is so inaccurate it's evil. you think thunderf00t was harassing Anita just by debunking her?
Only issue it wasnt all that baseless. The chick in question did sleep with journos for good reviews for her crappy game and thats not getting into the chick herself being a snake in the grass type.
Objectively incorrect, they've never met each other and he never reviewed her game.
clickbait
Ah yes it’s always capitalism’s fault……hiring the people progressives said was a good thing and should keep happening and then said hires make a bad product……so I guess if I’m right wing and make terrible products it’ll blame capitalism not me. Look I just dislike devs hating on people who don’t share their same political views, I hate people who get upset you don’t judge them individually but instead collectively meanwhile they do it to you but it’s ok. I’m tired of just disagreeing with how something is done I not even hating something but just giving an opinion and seen as a bad person. Doesn’t matter if it’s the right or the left, kinda funny how leftist kinda reminds me of me if all the pearl clutching conservatives during the early 2000s and gaming. Ok so you wanna have more diversity ok good, can’t hide behind it everytime someone has a criticism. I don’t care about gamergate anti SJW pro SJW I’m tired of all this sh*t. The left brought us here pushing people further to echo chambers because the tiniest critique was deem problematic. And the cultural Marxism thing is just nazis is abounding the criticism that culture is used to spread ideas, it’s funny how the left deny it but also say it’s a good thing if it’s happening they just don’t use that term. I agree we need better critique but holy hell people act like the left is just innocent angels you should never judge , all right leaning things are evil
Lol no.
Still pushing the lie I see. It was actually about poor quality game journalism.
Was it really though terry
Was it really?
@@bigdog973 It really was. Atleast to alot of people it was on the internet. That's why you get the memes about SJW's saying "This is the male fantasy" or the drama that happened on Tumblr. I'm sure there were grifters but there are some on both sides of the political spectrum.
Could you point out the lies please? 😊
@@bigdog973 Yes.
The biggest thing i remember about anita was the quote
"Everything is sexist, everything is racist and you need to point it all out"
And if i remember rightly, she was earning 6 figures, because she kept pushing this incredibly harmful lie
Then the feminists got involved at it became a meme war, gamers sick of being villainised for their hobby vs women who hate seeing men happy, what a battle that turned out to be.
And the end result of gamergate was the exposing of the industry pressure from these incredibly harmful, radically left wing groups and how widespread they were.
All of this has harmed the industry so much that many devs now have given up on narrative entirely and just pander to these groups entirely.
You remember incorrectly, because that "everything is sexist" quote was taken out of context.
A full version is "I sort of joke about how it was the most liberating thing that ever happened to me and also the most frustrating for everyone around me, because like when you start learning about systems everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out to everyone all the time, so there is a good year of my life. There is a good year in my life where I was just the most obnoxious person to be around. And then you settle into it, you start to understand like oh people they can live within the systems and it was just sort of liberating movement for me and you learn how to pick and choose your battles and that sort of thing."
So no, she wasn't claiming that everything was racist/sexist. She was talking about a previous point in her life where she was being overzealous and lacked full understanding of the issues. I have plenty of criticisms against Anita, but "she said *everything* is racist and sexist" is a lie pushed by GamerGaters.
@Gina817 ah, interesting take, thanks for the Info.
Can you see how easy this would be to believe though? Especially as something like intersectional feminism was popular at the time and pushed the very same message
the same with the social justice movement altogether, their ideology genuinely believed that things like racism, sexism, misogyny and homophobia were so prevelant in society that they began pressuring governments to introduce new laws and push societal reforms based upon their views.
when they couldn't find evidence for their claims, they just would bully anyone who disagreed with them into silence, including videogame companies, universities and so many more
@@mickieg1994 Sorry to sound accusatory, but that sounds more like an inability to research on your part than anything to do with feminism. Can you even define intersectional feminism?
Yeah it was very funny when she said that quote which was explicitly a joke, as we can see by her and everyone else in that room laughing about it. But yes, please keep saying for profit companies not owned by their workers are left-wing, definitely not embarrassing yourself.
Bias agreement comment, for what is rough. Algorithm says such. Ignore.
I think ya doing the same language. I'm not yet sold
English?
What does this even mean. 😂
@@Sir.WillyWallace He means he is doing the same thing but vice versa, it wasn't that deep mate.
Right wing you mean normal takes? Yeah you took off your mask off and revealed who you really are. Yet another puppet that doesnt see what is right in front of them and ignores the evidence that he can regularly find on youtube. I can see why your channel struggles to grew. Stick to making fallout videos when you do I will subscribe back, until then unsubscribe.
What evidence? Have you watched this man’s videos before? How is this video masked off at all 😂😂.
Right wing isn't normal. It's unattractive in men.
he's been like this for quite sometime
i've only seen his political stuff
if what you say about Fallout is true, then i've never seen any of them here on this channel 🤷♂
@oscarmccoy9102 Have you played a game in the last few years they are shit. But I guess thats what you like.
@@TwinRiver100 Well I was here for fallout , I didnt mind him being a liberal but him going full liberal is too much.
Pronounce?
th-cam.com/video/gTPFx5xn0eQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zGMoIZk0syG1vV7P
A bit long I know but I think this is a great example of bringing a leftist perspective to video game analysis
I'm not listening to 20 minutes of a nasally breadtuber screech about "muh reactionaries"
congratulation, you have discovered freewill
This video isn't very good.
I should know. I been following 'The Failed Resurrection of #GamerGate' since the beginning.
Sir Andy(no)Pants isn't even part of this 'resurrection' he just riding the wave of stupidity that people like Grummz (who has taken over 500k + to make a game 8 + years ago and hasn't even made a full demo for the game) and Smash JT (who was one of the 'shills' for Tommy Tallarico The guy from H. Bomberguy's ROBLOX_OOF.mp3 video) have established online.
AndyPants Gaming is just someone so 'masked off' that the focus is taken away from the real source of this 'resurrection'.