Hey Andrew! Thanks for stopping by our basement finishing channel. Yeah we use wood for most residential construction. The pencil lines I spoke about are for " Noobies" because that's ultimately who will be watching these videos in an attempt to learn basic drywall skills. Most pros don't need lines because we've been doing this for years, but most homeowners will like the nailing lines marked at first!
20 years in the trade and this is the first iv heard do glue sheet rock.. HardieBacker to the floor and duroc to the shower wall we have always done and now gluing the sheetrock to the ceiling is a perfect idea
Yeah man Aarron! It's great to do!~ It's also code here in Pennsylvania and is inspected and expected by our code inspection officers! Thanks for watching Aarron and for commenting. Eddie
Hey Tim! No it doesn't hurt the board at all it's just two more sets of hands! And the glue is king in my book. Everyone in my neck of the woods glues there board. Once that glue sets-up it's over for nail and screw-head pops. Thanks for commenting my friend! Take care. Eddie
Love the dude wearing sunglasses down there. Totally rad. Thanks for the video. I'm trying to drywall my bathroom tomorrow and this video has some great tips.
Man thanks posting thus video...I am 24 and just got into the "handyman" biss with my uncle and we do a lot of sheet rock installation and he is teaching me a very digfrent more confusing way...you guys make.more sense to me...thanks.
Wow you guys are geniuses. Please post more vids so we can learn from experts. Drywall is a tough nut to crack sometimes. People are literally going to see this so you must get your measurements right because Drywall is expensive and difficult to mend. Once you screw it in it doesn't move, so you have to get it right the first time.
Thanks Henry! We wait to screw the middle of the drywall sheet because the light fixtures stick down 1/2" below the floor joists we are screwing into and if we screwed the middle before we cut-out the lights we would "blow-out" the drywall around the light fixtures and ruin the drywall sheet! Hope that makes sense to you.. Thanks for your positive comment! Eddie
I agree with the on the glue holding but it only last for so long. Doing remolding for a living and being a painter by trade for 15 i have seen a lot of different over the years. Your channel is great its helped me out in ways to make jobs go faster. Thanks Davan
Gosh Rich all that good info for free and your busting my chops over a Type-O! I'm the graphics guy and I did miss that one. My video editing program does not have a spell checker or I would be using it! Thanks for your comment on my basement finishing drywall training videos., Eddie
Thx for the video. I'm having to replace the sheetrock in my garage soon because it's all sagging. Apparently, the builders 23 years ago used 1/2" sheetrock on my ceiling and joists are 24" on centers.
I can't find part 2 of hanging ceiling drywall? I figured that it'd be under part 1 video like other videos? Thx. Nice, step x step videos. Very informative.
They are just "spot" nails to help temporarily hold up the board until the guy with the screw gun can get to that area and finish the screwing of the board. These nails just "tack" the drywall in place so board can suspend on it's own freeing up the other mechanic to move ahead to the next sheet. You don't have to use nails if you do not want to...it's just something we sometimes do. Eddie
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet but they DO have countersunk bits now so you don't have to buy a drywall drill. I've used them and they've worked perfectly.
you guys do a great job! other diy videos, people dont use drywall glue or construction adhesive. they dont realize how important that is. guess they will have pops and trouble down the road. good job fellas!
you guys hang like i did for 20 years. look at some of these other videos. some people lay the rock on the floor and get two measurements and use a level for strait edge. it works i guess but one measurement and a t square with rock leaning against the wall is alot faster. and less bending over. i dont get some of these people and there vids.
It depends on which version you purchased. The older versions did not come with the drywall videos. Send me your email and order number and I will send these to you for free.Thanks again for your purchase and good luck with your basement project!
Get a job as a helper w/ a good general contractor and just keep your ears and eyes open! This is how most guys in the business learn the ropes! No College is NOT the answer for this line of work. Trade schools are good but learning on the job is BEST! Eddie
From my experience DeWalt and Hilti are the best screwguns, Ridgid leaves a lot of hangers. And one thing I noticed was you went clockwise while routering, go counter-clockwise and the bit rides right around the can light or box. A tip for your partner, KEEP YOUR FINGERS OUT OF THE WAY OF YOUR KNIFE! lol Like the vid tho guys, keep it up!!
The ends of a board do not have to land on a joist. If you use a product such as a ButtBoard, you can land the end halfway between the joists, and also end up with a perfectly flat ceiling, as the ButtBoard makes what would be a butt joint into a taper joint. When running the rotozip tool around the fixtures, your path should ideally be counter-clockwise. As the bit is spinning clockwise, if you move in a clockwise path, there is a slight tendency for the bit to pull away from the edge of the fixture. If you go counter-clockwise, the tendency is for the bit to bear slightly towards the fixture.
Always used coarse sheet rock screws n no glue n never had to worry about pops. With two guys no need to nail or could of rented one of those sheet rock manual lifts or watch homerenovision.
Hello Peter, They are just "spot" nails to help temporarily hold up the board until the guy with the screw gun can get to that area and finish the screwing of the board. These nails just "tack" the drywall in place so board can suspend on it's own freeing up the other mechanic to move ahead to the next sheet. You don't have to use nails if you do not want to...it's just something we sometimes do. Glue is actually a building code in PA...so we must use it if we are getting a drywall inspection. Eddie
Been working as a drywaller for 14 years . Here in Greece we use 0.6 mm steal frame .I think is much easier then the wood frame .We don't mark with pencil every stud on the sheet . I think is a bit noobish , but then again i do miss the stud here and there . :)
First off good video thanks for posting it. I am no professional but my understanding was the screw pop outs were due to shifting. If the house shifts and the drywall shifts than the screw heads pop or pull in from where they were originally left. If I am correct then glue isn't going to make a difference. However I get what your saying regarding gravity/time and it pulling down on the screws heads. Can you elaborate? I would like to know if I do not understand correctly.
I bought a used home for the first time a few years ago, and didn't know anything about drywall or ceilings. So, I never knew about the dangers that were right above my cars in the garage with a horrible ceiling drywall job (the previous owner did?). So, last week after a good rain storm a huge section came down, smacked into the garage opener track, then snapped the drywall section in half hitting my car and scrathing the trunk up. YES, I was/am very mad about it. For now as a quick fix I bought deck screws with washers and attacked every board to make sure it will not happen again until I get someone that knows what they are doing to make this right. As I was screwing the boards up you could certainly tell the others were sagging and bound to fall Obvious after learning about using glue that wasn't done or I wouldn't have a section falling so easily These videos help novice noobs like me SO THANKS!
Hello Nikola! Wow that really stinks! Sorry about your car too! YES glue would have helped keep all that drywall in your garage from sagging. It's a shame but I still get a lot of people telling me that "drywall adhesive" is a waste of time and money, but here we have yet another incident that proves my point! Drywall glue is GOOD! Use it! Eddie
BasementFinishingMan I learned fast buying a prior owner home isn't any different than a used car, people will either do the right maint. and upgrades or out of this world dumb stuff. I have done so much to the inside of this home, that the garage was considered the back burner. NOW, it is in front. Problem is where do I find people that know what they are doing and will make things right? There are so many corner cutting folks out there scrambling to make a buck, that it becomes a nightmare in my area ( Columbus, Ohio). I need a Holmes on homes person Thanks for the reply back
Nikola Tesla Get references ( at least 3) from previous jobs no older than 3 months old and talk directly to these references! Go look at the woks and talk to the clients and you will eventually find the right professional contractor! "References walk, flapping gums are just talk!" Eddie
I framed my basement with a buddy after watching some of your videos , we just drywalled it and made a big boo boo . I've never hung drywall before , and our drywall did not fall on studs . My buddy said it would be ok he did drywall for five years . This is the ceiling I'm talking about by the way , the walls came out perfect . So basically I have 5/8 inch board hanging in space on the ends . Joists are 16 inches apart . What kind of mayhem can I now look forward to? We paper taped and durabonded the seams
I found my house had drywall hung with corners not attached and stayed there for over 40 years. There were even parts where there were gaps bigger than 16 inches on center without anything to nail or screw to. So when I did my roof I just added a 2x4 along my roof joists. Glue is just an easier way to hang sheet rock without having to spend the time screwing in a few more screws or pound any more nails. Furthermore, it's more of a pain in the ass to remove when the roof starts leaking and you have to replace the drywall then scrap that damn glue off.
***** 90% of the purpose of resilient channel these days is to keep your joints from cracking and leveling, NOT sound proofing. Resilient channel was originally made for sound proofing, but people realized it worked much better at keeping the joints from cracking when the floor joists and ceiling trusses start shifting Don't talk about something you know nothing about. Literally almost every contractor or REAL drywaller uses Resilient channel in all houses or reno's
***** Because even real drywallers look for tips on how to get better and seeing people spreed wrong info is annoying. You need to calm down buddy. you should be thanking me for correcting you on an improper way to do things
What about using a drywall circle cutter attachment for the drill? I bought one from Lowes a while back, for the 6" cans and it worked great. I guess the benefit to the rotozip is you can use it for any size can, I just didn't know if you had any thoughts on the other method. Nicely done, I had no idea about the glue part.
Basement Finishing Man I was replying to telantierro above me asking about a cutter for square boxes. I said I hadn't heard of any square recessed light cans, but I think he may be referring to outlet boxes, perhaps?
Don't over complicate the mechanics of drywall. This is not rocket science or brain surgery. Anything you "mess-up" can usually be fixed without to much trouble. But... just get in there and get your hands dirty and the rest will come! Good luck with the trade my man! Eddie
When you install the drywall the electrical box fr outlets or switches are the box supposed to flush with studs or joists or does it sit like half inch out from studs so when u install wall they sit flush with drywall when you cut the opening fr box
cordless is completely fine. You just have to go a little slower and make sure you get each screw to exactly the right depth (just below the paper as he says). But really, you can buy a little sleeve bit that regulates the screw depth exactly how he describes in this video. This sleeve bit can be put into any cordless drill and only costs a few bucks.
@@BasementFinishingMan Thanks. I feel that little bit of advice has probably saved me hours in work. Nothing worse than making costly mistakes like that and having to redo everything from scratch.
Very slow process mostly. Plus you have to gauge when to stop screwing on every single screw so you don't over-screw and push the head of the screw through the drywall paper face (which is a bad thing!).
When you hang a board on the ceiling and then bring one up under it at the top of the wall is it better to have the tapered edges meet in the corner, butt edges, or trim off one or more of the tapered edges. does this really even matter? Would really appreciate some insight on this...........have a great day, and thanks for the video(s)
It does not matter it all depend if your hanging your sheets vertically or horizontally which type will intersect with the ceiling. Your board can be easily finished either way Chuck. Eddie
Nice video. Tx. I have an RZ-20 Rotozip. I dont' see anything in my RZ bag that allows me to use that kind of attachment. All I have is suited to flat round discs. Did you have what amounted to a drill bit as the actual cutter?
Idk if there's a video for it but try 2 guys pushing sheets to the lid and 1 guy walks stilts as the screwman, he tacks it off while your routering, then get out of his way while he finishes screwing and you move on, Super Fast!!!!
Ive never used the 2x4s to prop the drywall. Interesting. Does it ever mess up the finished face of the drywall and create extra finishing work? Also, I have never used any glue. Interesting as well. Will consider. Haven't had problems with nail pops though personally. But, I see how it can help.
Awesome video and incredibly informative, thanks!! Appreciate that you took the time to explain needing to be on-center with the edges because not everyone would think of that...until it's too late! I had thought about that but the tip about factory to factory edges is not something I would have known, so thanks. What do you recommend if you're concerned about the trusses being able to support the drywall plus a subfloor above it? Installing gussets at the truss joints? Also, I would want to install an attic ladder.
Love all your videos, great stuff! In terms of getting into a career around drywalling or interior construction and decorating type things, is it something you need to go to college for full time first or is some sort of apprentice job a better option?
Hey, so wondering why he hammers a nail to hold the initial hang instead of using the screw gun? I will be doing my house myself since we don't have any professional drywall companies out our way
These videos are great... but it doesnt have everything, Its just a into. I baught the series. There its really over 20 hours of hard core home improvement. It has been life changing. Thanks Eddie.
5/8" regular drywall is used most often for garage ceilings so you can pass the standard fireproof burn code during your building permit inspection. Eddie
Yes you always use your drywall adhesive for walls and ceilings, and you always need to screw into the studs in the walls and the ceiling joists in your ceilings when hanging your board. Eddie
Mr Keep it real they do work great, but when you are cutting on the outside of an electrical box if you go counterclockwise it works much better due to the rotation of the bit. When cutting the inside of windows with a larger bit you go clockwise for the same reason. And just for credibility, I have over 30 years experience in drywall and teach drywall techniques on my own channel.
Great video man, feel much more confident after viewing this! One question - what's the purpose of waiting to nail the center of the drywall until after you rotozip the boxes?
The purpose of that is if you screw the center or too close to whatever you need to rotozip out, it can actually snap/break the piece of drywall. Which obviously is noo good, so just put a couple in, just enough to make sure the sheet is secure, rotozip out whatever you need to and viola you're ready to go.
In a basement it does...it's to far between for 1/2" drywall in an area with an above normal humidity level. Drywall installed on 2' centers has a tendency to warp a little between the studs over time where as 16" centers is a much stronger setup against board warpping. Eddie
in my garage I have 2x4 truss's at 24inch center's. Will that support drywall or is drywall too heavy? What would be another option besides drywall that's not so heavy?
Video looks pretty complete but the graphics guy should turn on the spell checker. At 3:20 I had to double check what a "ceining joist" was. Proofread twice, render once.
Q: can I put up ceiling drywall on 1x2 strapping. I had old ceiling tiles that were stapled to the strapping...I clean all lthe strapping and it feels pretty rigid...some say the strpping is even better than going on the joist...your thoughts..
Some people will just never give a good crap what your trying to teach them! I see it everyday. All you can do is try...if they don't want your years of experience then $#@*!-em and let them learn the hard way, sometimes that's what it takes. People just do not respect authority the way they used too...it's a whole new world out there, it's sad really:-(
Nail pops? These aren't a problem provided you install straight ceiling studs/joists. I've never used drywall adhesive and never had any issues. The key to quality is properly measured, true framing.
In a perfect world that would help...but in the basement world use glue to be sure, because floor joists overhead in basements are never perfectly level. Eddie
How old is the house? I have a house built in '71 no nail pops and no glue on the ceiling joists. Just a lot of water damage from an old roof. So a new roof was put on. Oh and by the way, that glue sucks like hell to remove when you actually need to replace the drywall further down the road. I found that out after I torn down the outside walls to replace the R-3 or R-7 insulation that was thin as hell. In Nebraska, that doesn't do to well for you. You want at least R-13. Needless to say, likely that roof will eventually leak and need replaced unless you are an avid homeowner who does preventative maintenance year after year, season after season. You might be better off getting up in the attic and running bead on both sides of the joists. A little extra work but it'll hold just as good and won't be a problem down the road.
I have over 30 years experience in drywall with over 12 being just the drywall repairs and have fixed thousands of nail pops. Nail pops are 99% from actual nails as I have never actually fixed a screw pop. And nails pop because they don't have the threads like screws and the expansion and contraction of Wood pushes them back out. I never use nails for that reason. As for the glue, it will help with those issues but it would be hell to do a repair on a ceiling with a water leak, and I have done thousands of those repairs. In Colorado I have not come across one piece of sheet rock glued to the ceiling, thankfully. And the sheets will never fall down if enough screws are put in as per code. I have videos of my own, but for credibility you can check out my business website at Www.mrpatchdrywall.com
Basement Finishing Man damn right, gonna go see him on the 15th. Digging the new album. Hopefully he'll play some paradise valley. Western old world country music is addicting.
Yes I get your point,but as we all know many things can go wrong in a basement ceiling.To clean that glue off the Joist to replace drywall later?Not my idea of fun....Good video though
why is it so hard to teach somebody how to use a screwgun? Guys I work with would rather use drills and impacts and shit. Absolutely no interest in learning a better way. Only the guys who don't speak good English give a damn. Give a guy a tip on the site when he is fighting something he gets pissed off. Try to help a kid out and teach him something which took me years to figure out or for somebody to enlighten me, and they throw their tools and swear. I'm sick of this business.
Lol! I mean, this video allows me to have virtual on-the-job training from working professionals beamed directly to my house for free, but that intro is INEXCUSABLE.
Thank You! We are glad you liked this basement ceiling drywall video!
Hey Andrew! Thanks for stopping by our basement finishing channel. Yeah we use wood for most residential construction. The pencil lines I spoke about are for " Noobies" because that's ultimately who will be watching these videos in an attempt to learn basic drywall skills. Most pros don't need lines because we've been doing this for years, but most homeowners will like the nailing lines marked at first!
Thanks for liking our drywall training video Rich! I'm always here if you have any questions about the drywall project.
Eddie
20 years in the trade and this is the first iv heard do glue sheet rock.. HardieBacker to the floor and duroc to the shower wall we have always done and now gluing the sheetrock to the ceiling is a perfect idea
Yeah man Aarron! It's great to do!~ It's also code here in Pennsylvania and is inspected and expected by our code inspection officers! Thanks for watching Aarron and for commenting.
Eddie
Aarron Tidwell I too have never used glue on drywall. I've been doing it for 18 years
Hey Tim! No it doesn't hurt the board at all it's just two more sets of hands! And the glue is king in my book. Everyone in my neck of the woods glues there board. Once that glue sets-up it's over for nail and screw-head pops. Thanks for commenting my friend! Take care.
Eddie
Love the dude wearing sunglasses down there. Totally rad. Thanks for the video. I'm trying to drywall my bathroom tomorrow and this video has some great tips.
That thought never crossed my mind. Thanx for watching.
Man thanks posting thus video...I am 24 and just got into the "handyman" biss with my uncle and we do a lot of sheet rock installation and he is teaching me a very digfrent more confusing way...you guys make.more sense to me...thanks.
Thanks for the comment! Much appreciated!
For small projects, you don’t need a drywall gun. You can use a drywall dimpler on a good drill.
Thanks averagemale2000! We do appreciate the view of our basement finishing videos and the positive comment! Take care man.
Eddie
Kyle is the perfect hybrid of both Ricky and Julian.
thank you for the TPB flashback
Wow you guys are geniuses. Please post more vids so we can learn from experts. Drywall is a tough nut to crack sometimes. People are literally going to see this so you must get your measurements right because Drywall is expensive and difficult to mend. Once you screw it in it doesn't move, so you have to get it right the first time.
Thanks Henry! We wait to screw the middle of the drywall sheet because the light fixtures stick down 1/2" below the floor joists we are screwing into and if we screwed the middle before we cut-out the lights we would "blow-out" the drywall around the light fixtures and ruin the drywall sheet! Hope that makes sense to you.. Thanks for your positive comment!
Eddie
I agree with the on the glue holding but it only last for so long. Doing remolding for a living and being a painter by trade for 15 i have seen a lot of different over the years. Your channel is great its helped me out in ways to make jobs go faster. Thanks Davan
Glue and Screw!
Eddie
Yes sir!!
Gosh Rich all that good info for free and your busting my chops over a Type-O! I'm the graphics guy and I did miss that one. My video editing program does not have a spell checker or I would be using it! Thanks for your comment on my basement finishing drywall training videos.,
Eddie
Thx for the video. I'm having to replace the sheetrock in my garage soon because it's all sagging. Apparently, the builders 23 years ago used 1/2" sheetrock on my ceiling and joists are 24" on centers.
Yeah that's a stretch! I would replace it with 5/8" board and use drywall adhesive on all the joists when hanging the ceiling for sure.
Eddie
I can't find part 2 of hanging ceiling drywall? I figured that it'd be under part 1 video like other videos? Thx. Nice, step x step videos. Very informative.
now this was a very well made video. thanks for taking the time to make and post this.
They are just "spot" nails to help temporarily hold up the board until the guy with the screw gun can get to that area and finish the screwing of the board. These nails just "tack" the drywall in place so board can suspend on it's own freeing up the other mechanic to move ahead to the next sheet. You don't have to use nails if you do not want to...it's just something we sometimes do.
Eddie
Basement Finishing Man
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet but they DO have countersunk bits now so you don't have to buy a drywall drill. I've used them and they've worked perfectly.
you guys do a great job! other diy videos, people dont use drywall glue or construction adhesive. they dont realize how important that is. guess they will have pops and trouble down the road. good job fellas!
Thanks Rich! You only get one crack at it...it's either right or wrong!
Eddie
you guys hang like i did for 20 years. look at some of these other videos. some people lay the rock on the floor and get two measurements and use a level for strait edge. it works i guess but one measurement and a t square with rock leaning against the wall is alot faster. and less bending over. i dont get some of these people and there vids.
Yup! I hear you loud and clear...everyone's an expert these days.
Your welcome Frank! Yeah drywall adhesive really does the trick especially with the ceilings!
Eddie
It depends on which version you purchased. The older versions did not come with the drywall videos. Send me your email and order number and I will send these to you for free.Thanks again for your purchase and good luck with your basement project!
Your most welcome mervoworld! We are Happy while we work!
Get a job as a helper w/ a good general contractor and just keep your ears and eyes open! This is how most guys in the business learn the ropes! No College is NOT the answer for this line of work. Trade schools are good but learning on the job is BEST!
Eddie
From my experience DeWalt and Hilti are the best screwguns, Ridgid leaves a lot of hangers. And one thing I noticed was you went clockwise while routering, go counter-clockwise and the bit rides right around the can light or box. A tip for your partner, KEEP YOUR FINGERS OUT OF THE WAY OF YOUR KNIFE! lol Like the vid tho guys, keep it up!!
The ends of a board do not have to land on a joist. If you use a product such as a ButtBoard, you can land the end halfway between the joists, and also end up with a perfectly flat ceiling, as the ButtBoard makes what would be a butt joint into a taper joint.
When running the rotozip tool around the fixtures, your path should ideally be counter-clockwise. As the bit is spinning clockwise, if you move in a clockwise path, there is a slight tendency for the bit to pull away from the edge of the fixture. If you go counter-clockwise, the tendency is for the bit to bear slightly towards the fixture.
Excellent work guys! Thanks for the info and snappy happy presentation.
Always used coarse sheet rock screws n no glue n never had to worry about pops. With two guys no need to nail or could of rented one of those sheet rock manual lifts or watch homerenovision.
Hello Peter,
They are just "spot" nails to help temporarily hold up the board until the guy with the screw gun can get to that area and finish the screwing of the board. These nails just "tack" the drywall in place so board can suspend on it's own freeing up the other mechanic to move ahead to the next sheet. You don't have to use nails if you do not want to...it's just something we sometimes do.
Glue is actually a building code in PA...so we must use it if we are getting a drywall inspection.
Eddie
Been working as a drywaller for 14 years . Here in Greece we use 0.6 mm steal frame .I think is much easier then the wood frame .We don't mark with pencil every stud on the sheet . I think is a bit noobish , but then again i do miss the stud here and there . :)
First off good video thanks for posting it.
I am no professional but my understanding was the screw pop outs were due to shifting. If the house shifts and the drywall shifts than the screw heads pop or pull in from where they were originally left. If I am correct then glue isn't going to make a difference. However I get what your saying regarding gravity/time and it pulling down on the screws heads. Can you elaborate? I would like to know if I do not understand correctly.
I bought a used home for the first time a few years ago, and didn't know anything about drywall or ceilings. So, I never knew about the dangers that were right above my cars in the garage with a horrible ceiling drywall job (the previous owner did?).
So, last week after a good rain storm a huge section came down, smacked into the garage opener track, then snapped the drywall section in half hitting my car and scrathing the trunk up. YES, I was/am very mad about it. For now as a quick fix I bought deck screws with washers and attacked every board to make sure it will not happen again until I get someone that knows what they are doing to make this right. As I was screwing the boards up you could certainly tell the others were sagging and bound to fall
Obvious after learning about using glue that wasn't done or I wouldn't have a section falling so easily
These videos help novice noobs like me SO THANKS!
Hello Nikola! Wow that really stinks! Sorry about your car too! YES glue would have helped keep all that drywall in your garage from sagging. It's a shame but I still get a lot of people telling me that "drywall adhesive" is a waste of time and money, but here we have yet another incident that proves my point! Drywall glue is GOOD! Use it!
Eddie
BasementFinishingMan
I learned fast buying a prior owner home isn't any different than a used car, people will either do the right maint. and upgrades or out of this world dumb stuff.
I have done so much to the inside of this home, that the garage was considered the back burner. NOW, it is in front.
Problem is where do I find people that know what they are doing and will make things right? There are so many corner cutting folks out there scrambling to make a buck, that it becomes a nightmare in my area ( Columbus, Ohio).
I need a Holmes on homes person
Thanks for the reply back
Nikola Tesla Get references ( at least 3) from previous jobs no older than 3 months old and talk directly to these references! Go look at the woks and talk to the clients and you will eventually find the right professional contractor! "References walk, flapping gums are just talk!"
Eddie
This is going to be useful for when we begin working on a room at home!
Glad this video will help you with the project! Thanks for stopping by out basement finishing channel.
Eddie
What adhesive brand do you use for the drywall?
I framed my basement with a buddy after watching some of your videos , we just drywalled it and made a big boo boo . I've never hung drywall before , and our drywall did not fall on studs . My buddy said it would be ok he did drywall for five years . This is the ceiling I'm talking about by the way , the walls came out perfect . So basically I have 5/8 inch board hanging in space on the ends . Joists are 16 inches apart . What kind of mayhem can I now look forward to? We paper taped and durabonded the seams
I found my house had drywall hung with corners not attached and stayed there for over 40 years. There were even parts where there were gaps bigger than 16 inches on center without anything to nail or screw to. So when I did my roof I just added a 2x4 along my roof joists. Glue is just an easier way to hang sheet rock without having to spend the time screwing in a few more screws or pound any more nails. Furthermore, it's more of a pain in the ass to remove when the roof starts leaking and you have to replace the drywall then scrap that damn glue off.
+ctoth18 Anyone who doesn't use resilient channel on every drywalled ceiling is an idiot who should never be drywalling
*****
90% of the purpose of resilient channel these days is to keep your joints from cracking and leveling, NOT sound proofing. Resilient channel was originally made for sound proofing, but people realized it worked much better at keeping the joints from cracking when the floor joists and ceiling trusses start shifting
Don't talk about something you know nothing about. Literally almost every contractor or REAL drywaller uses Resilient channel in all houses or reno's
*****
Because even real drywallers look for tips on how to get better and seeing people spreed wrong info is annoying.
You need to calm down buddy. you should be thanking me for correcting you on an improper way to do things
@@ben1ben2ben1 Like the contractors are going to pay for that...you're an idiot
Great demonstration, you guys rock!
What about using a drywall circle cutter attachment for the drill? I bought one from Lowes a while back, for the 6" cans and it worked great. I guess the benefit to the rotozip is you can use it for any size can, I just didn't know if you had any thoughts on the other method. Nicely done, I had no idea about the glue part.
Hi Sig! Yeah they work great for 6" LIGHTS. I have one of them myself and occasionally use it when I have do not have access to the roto-zip.
Eddie
Sig Guy the 6" can cutter is good what about the square boxes is there a cutter for that
telantierro
I didn't know they made square can lights. (?)
Square recessed cans? Never heard of them Sig.
Eddie
Basement Finishing Man
I was replying to telantierro above me asking about a cutter for square boxes. I said I hadn't heard of any square recessed light cans, but I think he may be referring to outlet boxes, perhaps?
Don't over complicate the mechanics of drywall. This is not rocket science or brain surgery. Anything you "mess-up" can usually be fixed without to much trouble. But... just get in there and get your hands dirty and the rest will come! Good luck with the trade my man!
Eddie
When you install the drywall the electrical box fr outlets or switches are the box supposed to flush with studs or joists or does it sit like half inch out from studs so when u install wall they sit flush with drywall when you cut the opening fr box
1/@ " past the face of the studs. Then the drywall gets cut around that 1/2" lip.
Eddie
cordless is completely fine. You just have to go a little slower and make sure you get each screw to exactly the right depth (just below the paper as he says).
But really, you can buy a little sleeve bit that regulates the screw depth exactly how he describes in this video. This sleeve bit can be put into any cordless drill and only costs a few bucks.
Thanks for the video, friend. Just to clarify. The edge of the drywall must end at the middle of a joist? Is that right?
Correct Robert!
@@BasementFinishingMan Thanks. I feel that little bit of advice has probably saved me hours in work. Nothing worse than making costly mistakes like that and having to redo everything from scratch.
Great vid - If you was doing walls and ceilings, what would you do first ? thanks
What are they doing first in the video? Hmm
ceilings.
Very slow process mostly. Plus you have to gauge when to stop screwing on every single screw so you don't over-screw and push the head of the screw through the drywall paper face (which is a bad thing!).
When you hang a board on the ceiling and then bring one up under it at the top of the wall is it better to have the tapered edges meet in the corner, butt edges, or trim off one or more of the tapered edges. does this really even matter? Would really appreciate some insight on this...........have a great day, and thanks for the video(s)
It does not matter it all depend if your hanging your sheets vertically or horizontally which type will intersect with the ceiling. Your board can be easily finished either way Chuck.
Eddie
Nice video. Tx. I have an RZ-20 Rotozip. I dont' see anything in my RZ bag that allows me to use that kind of attachment. All I have is suited to flat round discs. Did you have what amounted to a drill bit as the actual cutter?
Idk if there's a video for it but try 2 guys pushing sheets to the lid and 1 guy walks stilts as the screwman, he tacks it off while your routering, then get out of his way while he finishes screwing and you move on, Super Fast!!!!
I subscribed and liked and will be following your advice next weekend in my garage. Thanks for the great video (typ-os and all) :)
Always perpendicular!
Ive never used the 2x4s to prop the drywall. Interesting. Does it ever mess up the finished face of the drywall and create extra finishing work? Also, I have never used any glue. Interesting as well. Will consider. Haven't had problems with nail pops though personally. But, I see how it can help.
I also want to add after all the drywall was hung , my buddy relayed to me he was a drywall finisher for five years , not really a hanger as I thought
What is the negative of using a regular cordless? It's all I have.
when hanging a ceiling do you have to run the sheets perpendicular to the studs? can you run the sheets parallel with the studs?
Awesome video and incredibly informative, thanks!! Appreciate that you took the time to explain needing to be on-center with the edges because not everyone would think of that...until it's too late! I had thought about that but the tip about factory to factory edges is not something I would have known, so thanks. What do you recommend if you're concerned about the trusses being able to support the drywall plus a subfloor above it? Installing gussets at the truss joints? Also, I would want to install an attic ladder.
whoa, macho central over here... hahaha. Thanks for the video!
We appreciate the view!
Eddie
Love all your videos, great stuff! In terms of getting into a career around drywalling or interior construction and decorating type things, is it something you need to go to college for full time first or is some sort of apprentice job a better option?
Screws do not end up in nail popout...am I correct?? So why use glue??
Hey, so wondering why he hammers a nail to hold the initial hang instead of using the screw gun? I will be doing my house myself since we don't have any professional drywall companies out our way
Didn't know about the glue. thanks
These videos are great... but it doesnt have everything, Its just a into. I baught the series. There its really over 20 hours of hard core home improvement. It has been life changing. Thanks Eddie.
+The How To Go To Thanks! Yes...the video package we offer is ridiculously jammed with home improvement how-to videos: - )
what is best for a garage ceiling
5/8" regular drywall is used most often for garage ceilings so you can pass the standard fireproof burn code during your building permit inspection.
Eddie
I like the backward hat guy. No nonsense tell it like it is.
BFU, do you have to use glue on the ceiling with 1/4" drywall and do you have to screw into to the studs with 1/4" on the ceiling or walls?
Yes you always use your drywall adhesive for walls and ceilings, and you always need to screw into the studs in the walls and the ceiling joists in your ceilings when hanging your board.
Eddie
Thanks!
5/8" or 1/2" drywall?
1/2" Drywall in all areas.
Thanks for the hat tip!
9:45 Big shout out to Bono for taking some time out to help you with this project
Just bought a dremel can't wait to use it with the drywall attachment
Mr Keep it real they do work great, but when you are cutting on the outside of an electrical box if you go counterclockwise it works much better due to the rotation of the bit. When cutting the inside of windows with a larger bit you go clockwise for the same reason. And just for credibility, I have over 30 years experience in drywall and teach drywall techniques on my own channel.
Can you paint this after or does it require a sealer
+Dave Patheyjohns Hi Dave...Just use a drywall primer and then paint.
Eddie
Tom is awesome.
Great video man, feel much more confident after viewing this!
One question - what's the purpose of waiting to nail the center of the drywall until after you rotozip the boxes?
The purpose of that is if you screw the center or too close to whatever you need to rotozip out, it can actually snap/break the piece of drywall. Which obviously is noo good, so just put a couple in, just enough to make sure the sheet is secure, rotozip out whatever you need to and viola you're ready to go.
does studs on 24" centers present a problem
In a basement it does...it's to far between for 1/2" drywall in an area with an above normal humidity level. Drywall installed on 2' centers has a tendency to warp a little between the studs over time where as 16" centers is a much stronger setup against board warpping.
Eddie
in my garage I have 2x4 truss's at 24inch center's. Will that support drywall or is drywall too heavy? What would be another option besides drywall that's not so heavy?
did a porch without glueing and still looks the same after 15 years...
Hung board for over 10 years never used glue. 3 screws in the field.
Crazy as it might sound normally when people do something they make a job seem more difficult than what it has to be.
Thanks for the videos. Nice work!
Thanks for stopping by our channel Rick! Good luck with your project.
it be cool if you did a roofing sieries!
+The How To Go To Got one coming soon on Shingle roofing for roof overs and tear-offs. Look for it in the Spring of this year.
Eddie
Why glue? I've never seen this. Why not just screw it in? I love your channel BTW.
Ignore..haha. You answered it in the video!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching! ~Eddie
It's Just stronger and lasts longer! Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching! ~Eddie
Good video nice work
why do you put nails on the perimeter and not just use screws?
hey man here is a cool tip! If you wear a hat make sure to remove that top tip for when you rest the drywall on your head, it wont hurt!
Video looks pretty complete but the graphics guy should turn on the spell checker. At 3:20 I had to double check what a "ceining joist" was. Proofread twice, render once.
Thanks!
Is this liquid nails? so helpfulf. Thanks so much.
No it's drywall adhesive...kind of like liquid nails but made specifically for drywall hanging!
Eddie
Q: can I put up ceiling drywall on 1x2 strapping. I had old ceiling tiles that were stapled to the strapping...I clean all lthe strapping and it feels pretty rigid...some say the strpping is even better than going on the joist...your thoughts..
buenos videos
construccion
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Some people will just never give a good crap what your trying to teach them! I see it everyday. All you can do is try...if they don't want your years of experience then $#@*!-em and let them learn the hard way, sometimes that's what it takes. People just do not respect authority the way they used too...it's a whole new world out there, it's sad really:-(
Nails pop because over time the wood dries and tends to twist. It has nothing to do with gravity.
That too! But mostly gravity is the culprit. Use your glue and you will reduce nail and screw pops.
Eddie
he did say mother nature along with gravity, gravity pulls down so its common sense that it will eventually cause nail pops
...what thickness drywall do you use for ceiling??
We use 1/2" drywall for all basement ceilings Deeln!
Eddie
Good
Thanks!
Nail pops? These aren't a problem provided you install straight ceiling studs/joists. I've never used drywall adhesive and never had any issues.
The key to quality is properly measured, true framing.
In a perfect world that would help...but in the basement world use glue to be sure, because floor joists overhead in basements are never perfectly level.
Eddie
So many nail pops in my house... wtf I got hustled on that sale!!!!
How old is the house? I have a house built in '71 no nail pops and no glue on the ceiling joists. Just a lot of water damage from an old roof. So a new roof was put on. Oh and by the way, that glue sucks like hell to remove when you actually need to replace the drywall further down the road. I found that out after I torn down the outside walls to replace the R-3 or R-7 insulation that was thin as hell. In Nebraska, that doesn't do to well for you. You want at least R-13. Needless to say, likely that roof will eventually leak and need replaced unless you are an avid homeowner who does preventative maintenance year after year, season after season. You might be better off getting up in the attic and running bead on both sides of the joists. A little extra work but it'll hold just as good and won't be a problem down the road.
1985 build.
+h8ncars Its because whoever drywalled it over sunk their screws. 99% of people who "dryall" do
I have over 30 years experience in drywall with over 12 being just the drywall repairs and have fixed thousands of nail pops. Nail pops are 99% from actual nails as I have never actually fixed a screw pop. And nails pop because they don't have the threads like screws and the expansion and contraction of Wood pushes them back out. I never use nails for that reason. As for the glue, it will help with those issues but it would be hell to do a repair on a ceiling with a water leak, and I have done thousands of those repairs.
In Colorado I have not come across one piece of sheet rock glued to the ceiling, thankfully. And the sheets will never fall down if enough screws are put in as per code. I have videos of my own, but for credibility you can check out my business website at Www.mrpatchdrywall.com
Funny thing, I was just listening to John Mayer before I came here to see a how to video and it turns out there's John Mayer music in here. Lol.
Mayer is the man!
Basement Finishing Man damn right, gonna go see him on the 15th. Digging the new album. Hopefully he'll play some paradise valley. Western old world country music is addicting.
John Mayer?? He is so weak!
Sorry about that my friend. We always have a radio on and honesty we did not even realize that we had it on when we were shooting the video!
Eddie
All I got to say is "I hate to be the poor bastard who has to take that drywall down in the future for any reason if its glued haaaaaa "
That's the idea here...It's never supposed to come down, no matter what.
Eddie
Yes I get your point,but as we all know many things can go wrong in a basement ceiling.To clean that glue off the Joist to replace drywall later?Not my idea of fun....Good video though
I thought that every time you were hanging a ceiling you were supposed to put 5 screws on the field...
You need way more than 5 screws per sheet on the ceilings even if you are gluing your board (which you should be!).
Eddie
Could do without the music
What's with the sunglasses? Looks weird.
Safety Glasses Steven...
the screwdriver looks like a Makita wanna be . Same design diff color.
Let me guess, Floridians. . . ?
No sir...Pennsylvanians!
Eddie
Yes I was wrong. . . the gentlemen reminded me of a guy I know.
why is it so hard to teach somebody how to use a screwgun? Guys I work with would rather use drills and impacts and shit. Absolutely no interest in learning a better way. Only the guys who don't speak good English give a damn. Give a guy a tip on the site when he is fighting something he gets pissed off. Try to help a kid out and teach him something which took me years to figure out or for somebody to enlighten me, and they throw their tools and swear. I'm sick of this business.
That music in the intro was painful. Also you should learn how to use a Camera / zoom function
Thank you...have a nice day.
Your intro is so long I'm switching you off
You can always skip past it if you like...? Thanks for passing through Norman...Bye my brother!
Lol! I mean, this video allows me to have virtual on-the-job training from working professionals beamed directly to my house for free, but that intro is INEXCUSABLE.
Norman Ball sry your magisty