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I love my ai60’s. Glad to see I’m not missing much with the new model. Since It does have a USB input, I’m streaming it with a Raspberry Pi running Volumio.
I have the 48" OLED TV as a monitor, and what I did was NOT put it on my desk, but picked up a stand to mount it to and put it past the edge of my desk by about a foot. and then for my speakers, I have a pair of 32" tall stands to the sides of the TV, leaving the desk clear. Lets me not worry about the footprint on the desk.
I have some ai41's for well over a year and love them, I use them bluetooth with my laptop and optical with my tv as additional speakers to my other home speaker setup. The bass out of them using another dac with bass boost can be fairly impressive. My biggest complaint is the amp. Those speakers can 100% go louder and they get loud enough for most uses, but as larget room music or home cinema of any kind they are definately gimped and it feels like on purpose. the 41's should have the 120 and the 61's should 150 or something as it's obvious they can handle much more. But against they are extremely versatile, sound good, work well, and get loud enough as long as you aren't relying on them only for home cinema or a large room. It feels like they made really good speakers and then powered and dsp's them for old people, but they are still goood. Seriosuly the bass can thump if push them using external dac. Also I have seen a video of someoen who ripped out the power and properly powered them and they were 2x, but thats too much work. I've wondered if the 6.5 would have been worh it but the 5 footprint is nice to fit and I did get them on sale for 200 which is the main reason i did it. I haven't really seen the 61's drop. I imagine they must sell as they RAREly go on sale or the company really doesn't care. I'm tempted on their 10 inch sub , but i don't really feel like its worth more than 150 compared to other things u can get for the price. Al their stuff just needs to drop 50 bux and get a slight power increase and they would prolly be top sellers, but they are i dunno too old school, greedy, ignorant, or just don't understan the broad consumer space/ care for their powered line. They know old guys with their turn table will be happy and chances are u can't blow them with that power EVER. Not having Dolby or Dts is also unfortunate. All that said for the 200 I spent i have no regrets. Well worth it at that price point.
Edifier is a brand you can actually buy in Europe, unlike Swan or Micca or Emo-tiva. Edifier S1000MKII should be round that price point and price to performance is good. But they are more living room speaker than desktop speaker.
The button is there but you can't see the count, only I can. Which negates part of the reason YT removed it in the first place to "protect sensitive creators"
Hmm, at this price point, the are contending with Swan M50W’s and Edifier S350DB’s, but they feel kind of lacking against both. I LOVE my S350’s and would recommend them in a heartbeat.
I have these. They are amazing. Have it paired with a sub, as this model has a sub out. But they are strong in bass nonetheless. Beautiful design, have the same exact ones Zeos!
Versus Klipsch The Fives? Or T1 Encores? Especially on a desk? I am getting The Fives because shipping + customs taxes for EU on any US/CA speakers is more than their actual value. Still interesting though. Vanatoo is hopefully coming to EU markets Q2 of this year for T0 and EOY for T1. :)
According to what they're saying, when the klipsch fives are paired with a sub woofer, they become AUDIOPHILE QUALITY. Without the sub, they are good, but with the sub, they are INSANELY GREAT.
@@bradhuskers Thanks for the info! Yes, I heard as much. Guess the DSP adjusted bass can be too much of a good thing and bleed into the mids a bit. Honestly hoping that since I will be listening near field it won't be such a problem but I definitely am thinking about a sub pairing as well :)
Have you seen The Fives in person? They are quite big for a desktop. I bought the klipsch r-41 pm, for a big desktop, and they were too big. But, overall, the kind of sound they give was clearly designed for bigger rooms, with a very V-shaped tunning, to fill the space. I love elevated bass and V-shape tunning, but I can tell you that the sound was just wrong... I ended changing and I have the Kef Eggs with a Klipsch Subwoofer and I love the combo. Also, I have the JBL 305 for the TV, on a very small apartment, and I can see how they are close field. Soundstage is great at 1m distanced. I don't know if The Fives DSP is going to make that big of a difference. Let us know if it works for you
For EU I can recommend Triangle Elara (ln-01a), I was able to pick them up for less than 400€. Zeos considered them to be in the same tier (butter tier) as The Fives and the T1 Encores which are like twice the price.
Wondering what is you're opinion now on the fluance signature bookshelf speakers... looking a them vs elac debut b5.2 or b6.2! Can't see the audio demo of the fluances since it's been demonized here
i totally agree about that like/dislike thing . i used to seek tutorials about how to fix various problems like software errors . i think they did it because a lot of those who pay youtube for promo or other stuff have asked dislikes to be removed or hidden , thinking that will increase their popularity ; but so they removed TRUST , and youtube view count doesnt necessarily mean real life profit . facebook never had dislike buttons , but facebook is just for entertainment and nothing else . next , youtube might remove bad reviews on google maps 😠you know what that means ?
Hi Zeos! great reviews like always! I recently with your advice bought the SMSL Do200 DAC and the SMSL Ho200 Amp , and I may consider this AI61 if I can find them in Europe. Since I am quite new at this hobby how can I hook a passive speaker to this system, because I just cant seem to find a reasonable size active speaker and that isn't just plain ugly for my desk. Please help me out with some of you guru Obi Wan guidance. Love your work!
@@Assimilator702 so for this setup, I must go with powered or active speakers right? This speakers are sold out in Europe. What about the Jamo S801 PM?
@@danielsowers4960 thank you, I went with the Adam Audio T5V and I am going to try it at least for the 30 day period, and then decide if I keep them or not.
I bought the Jamo 801 pm for 120 for my parents. I like them. I don't know if I should get another pair for their bedroom or something else. I would like to see a Z Review of them.
Hi Z, on the cheap but good stuff could you take a look at the Fosi BT30d? I just revived a desk system by adding this unit and a Passive subwoofer reclaimed from a soundbar system. Seems like a useful little item but I don't think you've reviewed any Fosi products?
I'd kind of like to be able to hear the 41's just in case these two are speakers I decide to wait and watch for a sale on. You never know if the smaller ones might actually go on sale more frequently or for a deeper discount because of what you mentioned. I mean for a difference of $40 bucs you are of course correct in recommending the bigger brother the 61's but that may mean little brother will go on sale more often and for a much deeper discount. I can see on my desk actually kind of wanting the smaller footprint depending on which of my desks I am at. Thanks for the heads up on these two sets Z but man I have to tell you, you've been very hard on my wallet for the last couple months... 😆
$50 is still 20% price difference and many times space is a serious issue and top consideration for many. so yeh, you need to review them as there are a lot of 4" options and see if they are so much better they can justify that higher price...or not.
I would have liked to see some more features for a few hundred bucks more. I really like the look and simplicity these speakers have, but the features are what is killing it for me. These would be very competitive to The Fives, Vanatoo T1 Encore's and the Kanto Tuk's if these had DSP and allowed the sub to have a cutoff.
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Do HD650 pads fit hd 559's doesn't need to be a perfect fit. I wanted to get Yaxi's for my hd 559's but Yaxi dosen't make pads for them.
@@Shibes770 600 series is not the same as the 500 unfortunately
@@ZReviews what if I point Mosin at them?
@@ZReviews also newfantasia pads go squishy.
I love my ai60’s. Glad to see I’m not missing much with the new model. Since It does have a USB input, I’m streaming it with a Raspberry Pi running Volumio.
Hi Zeos. On Amazon Canada Ai41 at 317$ CAD and Ai61 at 380$ CAD. Thanks for the review ;-)
as someone who is thinking about putting an OLED TV on my desk, smaller speaker footprint might actually hold some value
I have the 48" OLED TV as a monitor, and what I did was NOT put it on my desk, but picked up a stand to mount it to and put it past the edge of my desk by about a foot. and then for my speakers, I have a pair of 32" tall stands to the sides of the TV, leaving the desk clear. Lets me not worry about the footprint on the desk.
I have some ai41's for well over a year and love them, I use them bluetooth with my laptop and optical with my tv as additional speakers to my other home speaker setup. The bass out of them using another dac with bass boost can be fairly impressive. My biggest complaint is the amp. Those speakers can 100% go louder and they get loud enough for most uses, but as larget room music or home cinema of any kind they are definately gimped and it feels like on purpose. the 41's should have the 120 and the 61's should 150 or something as it's obvious they can handle much more. But against they are extremely versatile, sound good, work well, and get loud enough as long as you aren't relying on them only for home cinema or a large room. It feels like they made really good speakers and then powered and dsp's them for old people, but they are still goood. Seriosuly the bass can thump if push them using external dac. Also I have seen a video of someoen who ripped out the power and properly powered them and they were 2x, but thats too much work. I've wondered if the 6.5 would have been worh it but the 5 footprint is nice to fit and I did get them on sale for 200 which is the main reason i did it. I haven't really seen the 61's drop. I imagine they must sell as they RAREly go on sale or the company really doesn't care. I'm tempted on their 10 inch sub , but i don't really feel like its worth more than 150 compared to other things u can get for the price. Al their stuff just needs to drop 50 bux and get a slight power increase and they would prolly be top sellers, but they are i dunno too old school, greedy, ignorant, or just don't understan the broad consumer space/ care for their powered line. They know old guys with their turn table will be happy and chances are u can't blow them with that power EVER. Not having Dolby or Dts is also unfortunate. All that said for the 200 I spent i have no regrets. Well worth it at that price point.
How do the ai61 compare to the kanto yu6
Fluance AI61+fluance 10inch sub OR Edifier S360DB?
The ai41 is $318 and the ai61 is $380 in Canada
Okay regrettably I have to say watching this video I am getting motion sickness, just like after watching the film Cloverfield.
Are there any equally "price to performance speakers" available for the European market? Total price after import to Sweden: 897$
Mu-Ha-Ha ;D There is a reason why they are not even listed on german A.
Edifier is a brand you can actually buy in Europe, unlike Swan or Micca or Emo-tiva. Edifier S1000MKII should be round that price point and price to performance is good. But they are more living room speaker than desktop speaker.
I like your content but man, I can barely watch the video itself with all the camera shake... seasick.
I usually recommend never fullscreen my vids. Sort of keep them in the background.
You get use to it .. or I have .
I still see the dislike button on the iPhone app
The button is there but you can't see the count, only I can. Which negates part of the reason YT removed it in the first place to "protect sensitive creators"
@@ZReviews *giant corporations upsetting the world and getting their special videos and trailers and shitty releases bombed
Please compare to Audio Engine and Edifier powered speakers, thanks
Hmm, at this price point, the are contending with Swan M50W’s and Edifier S350DB’s, but they feel kind of lacking against both.
I LOVE my S350’s and would recommend them in a heartbeat.
Maybe but where can you buy them?
The Ai60s are still going strong.
Also check for Monolith MM-5R, they are at the same price range, curious on what are your thoughts?
Had those speakers just ok dude. Sent them back got Vanatoos never looked back
I have these. They are amazing. Have it paired with a sub, as this model has a sub out. But they are strong in bass nonetheless. Beautiful design, have the same exact ones Zeos!
Which sub do you have?
Canadian pricing
Ai41 - 320$
Ai61 - 380$
get the "returnTH-camDislike" extention for your browser. Gives you dislikes again
So the question I have is, do I send my Kanto YU6’s in and get the AI61’s instead?
Probably not
No these speakers have the 80 hz roll off. Everything from 80hz goes below.
Exactly!!
I'd like to propose a trade 🤔 , you send me some KPH40s maybe 30is and I'll send you some hand made anime tops to your specifications
hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@@ZReviews I'll DM you on IG with what I do . It's up to you I'm always up for a new one of a kind anime top
In your opinion what would be the best bang for your buck for speakers around $200 canadian?
Versus Klipsch The Fives? Or T1 Encores? Especially on a desk? I am getting The Fives because shipping + customs taxes for EU on any US/CA speakers is more than their actual value. Still interesting though. Vanatoo is hopefully coming to EU markets Q2 of this year for T0 and EOY for T1. :)
According to what they're saying, when the klipsch fives are paired with a sub woofer, they become AUDIOPHILE QUALITY. Without the sub, they are good, but with the sub, they are INSANELY GREAT.
@@bradhuskers Thanks for the info! Yes, I heard as much. Guess the DSP adjusted bass can be too much of a good thing and bleed into the mids a bit. Honestly hoping that since I will be listening near field it won't be such a problem but I definitely am thinking about a sub pairing as well :)
Have you seen The Fives in person? They are quite big for a desktop.
I bought the klipsch r-41 pm, for a big desktop, and they were too big. But, overall, the kind of sound they give was clearly designed for bigger rooms, with a very V-shaped tunning, to fill the space. I love elevated bass and V-shape tunning, but I can tell you that the sound was just wrong...
I ended changing and I have the Kef Eggs with a Klipsch Subwoofer and I love the combo.
Also, I have the JBL 305 for the TV, on a very small apartment, and I can see how they are close field. Soundstage is great at 1m distanced.
I don't know if The Fives DSP is going to make that big of a difference. Let us know if it works for you
These are not in the league of those full DSP monsters. They are pretty basic.
For EU I can recommend Triangle Elara (ln-01a), I was able to pick them up for less than 400€. Zeos considered them to be in the same tier (butter tier) as The Fives and the T1 Encores which are like twice the price.
in canada i paid 414 dollars
Ai41s are on sale $200, I think for those with a budget and smaller desk (absolute need).... I think it's good.
Do you know, if connected to a TV via Optical, can it IR-Learn the volume controls of a TV remote?
Wondering what is you're opinion now on the fluance signature bookshelf speakers... looking a them vs elac debut b5.2 or b6.2! Can't see the audio demo of the fluances since it's been demonized here
i totally agree about that like/dislike thing . i used to seek tutorials about how to fix various problems like software errors . i think they did it because a lot of those who pay youtube for promo or other stuff have asked dislikes to be removed or hidden , thinking that will increase their popularity ; but so they removed TRUST , and youtube view count doesnt necessarily mean real life profit . facebook never had dislike buttons , but facebook is just for entertainment and nothing else . next , youtube might remove bad reviews on google maps 😠you know what that means ?
Hi Zeos! great reviews like always! I recently with your advice bought the SMSL Do200 DAC and the SMSL Ho200 Amp , and I may consider this AI61 if I can find them in Europe. Since I am quite new at this hobby how can I hook a passive speaker to this system, because I just cant seem to find a reasonable size active speaker and that isn't just plain ugly for my desk. Please help me out with some of you guru Obi Wan guidance. Love your work!
The amp needs to have connections for speaker wire to power passive speakers.
@@Assimilator702 so for this setup, I must go with powered or active speakers right? This speakers are sold out in Europe. What about the Jamo S801 PM?
Edifier S350db exist
@@danielsowers4960 thank you, I went with the Adam Audio T5V and I am going to try it at least for the 30 day period, and then decide if I keep them or not.
Remote does not control the PC's media playback when connected via usb on a mac at least.. Just FYI for everyone.
The dislike button is back... maybe only for Canadians watching a review of a Canadian brand? :)
What about the DSP Z. I have these but the DSP sometimes especially on wax is compressed sometimes like in and out.
Ya soo 2 canadian brands. These are KANTO YU6's same amp plate and almost identical boxes ports etc.
I bought the Jamo 801 pm for 120 for my parents. I like them. I don't know if I should get another pair for their bedroom or something else. I would like to see a Z Review of them.
Heaterbacca. 😭😭😭
Would love to see your opinion on polk es series! Thinking about saving up for the es60 towers and es35 center channel with a sub
Would like to get your thoughts on the Totem Kin-plays. In fact … any Totem speakers.
when desk is small and you cant change that any time soon , than you cant have big of even medium sized speakers 😕
Here in the great white north, they go for 317cad & 380cad respectively... 63 loons difference.
From what i've heard, creators can still see the dislike counter somewhere. Not sure where though.
The news was reporting in like to dislike ratio on a certain TH-cam channel so they had to remove that.
Are you working on the Hifiman Edition XS? There are a lot of hype about it
How does it compare to the r1700bt from edifiers?
Hard to watch with as much as your head mounted camera is moving around ...
FLUANCE Ai61 vs Jamo S803?!
Scary we think alike on the Fluance speakers Ai61
please start telling us the songs again especially from the intro!!!
Hi Z, on the cheap but good stuff could you take a look at the Fosi BT30d? I just revived a desk system by adding this unit and a Passive subwoofer reclaimed from a soundbar system. Seems like a useful little item but I don't think you've reviewed any Fosi products?
did you end up getting the BT30D ?
Do you ever get speakers up upgraded with better parts such as the voice colis an or the crossovers?
The AI61 here in Canada is $380 so $298USD.
So are these louder than the edifier r1280db?
Hoping to buy from yard sale
Hi, what you recommend between Kanto YU6 or Fluance AI61 for a medium living room? Thank you.
Fluance has always been better than Kantos. But you can go Kanto if you care about the look and finish..For strictly sound quality go with Fluance.
@@juniorazeez702 thank you
La Sexorcisto!
I'd kind of like to be able to hear the 41's just in case these two are speakers I decide to wait and watch for a sale on. You never know if the smaller ones might actually go on sale more frequently or for a deeper discount because of what you mentioned. I mean for a difference of $40 bucs you are of course correct in recommending the bigger brother the 61's but that may mean little brother will go on sale more often and for a much deeper discount. I can see on my desk actually kind of wanting the smaller footprint depending on which of my desks I am at. Thanks for the heads up on these two sets Z but man I have to tell you, you've been very hard on my wallet for the last couple months... 😆
What stands are they?
Rumble. Rumble. Rumble.
Speakers aren't tangent to your listening position, FIX THAT!! :P
Butter?
$50 is still 20% price difference and many times space is a serious issue and top consideration for many. so yeh, you need to review them as there are a lot of 4" options and see if they are so much better they can justify that higher price...or not.
I wouldn't mind seeing a sound demo of the 41s. I have a small desk and it's nice to have compact speakers.
Did you break these speakers in?
if you had sound foam on that concrete wall would that change the sound of the speakers?
typical useless consumerist review. no data and it is so sad how zoomers basically watch 30 minutes of teleshopping.
Hard data don't tell you how a thing makes me feel. The specs are right there on the website. If you want figures.
Wow. Those sound really awful.
Judge on the sound demo
I would have liked to see some more features for a few hundred bucks more. I really like the look and simplicity these speakers have, but the features are what is killing it for me. These would be very competitive to The Fives, Vanatoo T1 Encore's and the Kanto Tuk's if these had DSP and allowed the sub to have a cutoff.
They got rid of the thumbs down because it showed how hated Joe Biden is . TRUE STORY