@@bekeviktor4753 engine is total crap, not CPU limited you can see it on overlay. Buy finally they improve their engine in Arma Reforger, so next big Arma should be good in technical aspects at least.
@@prarmageddon You dont have to be at or around 100% load to be CPU limited, the game still scales with every new generation of CPUs, but relies mostly on single core performance.
@@bekeviktor4753 then it's a shitty engine, which could not utilize all the resources available, isn't it? Basically 20+ years old Operation Flashpoint engine wih more shaders.
When you need a RTX 4090 to run everything at 4K in max settings for a game released in 2013, it can mean two things : 1. The game is ahead of his time 2. The game developers did a terribly bad job at performance optimization
I'm surprised that I managed to get the game to work with my 1st gen i5, 4gb ram with hd 7850 2gb back then despite everyone complaining about poor optimization. Unfortunately it has been always up to modders to fix things on Arma ever since.
Gonna be honest with you, Coming from someone who tends to play it Ultra but rather plays High/Extrahigh for the extra performance.... Graphically it's not much different.
I mean, It would have been nice to have seen it maxed out, but over 5 km is a pretty good distance. The other two being maxed out are going to do enough to wreak havoc on any system. It's at least enough to let me know how well it's going to perform.
@@ShirkDestroyer Unfortunately, you don't understand those numbers and how the CPU works... Arma3 is only able to use 4 CPU threads. I5-12600K has 6+4 cores and 16 threads. So 23% is the equivalent of 4 threads at 100% After a few changes in the code, you can use more, but you can read about it online. (but more Ghz is better than numbers of threads ) In addition, RAM is VERY important, specifically its speed. If the author had DDR5 e.g. 6400, the result would be much, much better. Best regards, Andix🙂
@@pycho2160 That's not true if you look at task manager utilization. It does spread to all cores if you set it right in the launcher. However, it's not that efficient at doing that.
ARMA still one of the most demanding games on PC. It still eats up the best GPU and CPU you can throw at it. A top end PC and still less than 60fps on 4k. And that was on the least 'taxing' island in the game!! Thanks for the video. Good info.
Yea the game is pretty badly optimized but he could have gone into the parameters in the launcher to change some settings to his pc to get actually who knows fps. 10-100? depending on the cpu and still alot. they have a wiki showing what is more demanding for the gpu and the cpu aswell.
You're absolutely wrong in this. It will eat your CPU that's for sure but take a look at the GPU usage... Arma has never used in my PC life more then 80% GPU usage where it should be at 99% to fully use it's potential. This due to the engine just being shit and outdated. Look at DayZ for example, they revamped the engine and something similar will be used for Arma 4.
@@mathisramboz2247 I got over 7k hours and it’s a very good game but so what it got released in 2013 it’s nearly 10 years old the game is still very much alive
This is my favorite game of all time. I say favorite because this game has more hours played than any other in my library. For I have almost 3k. not much to some but insane to others. One of a kind. No competitor to Arma, not even close.
Finally a draw distance worth benchmarking! I commend you for going to 12 kilos. Every time I see a benchmark for this they do 2500m as if someone who wants to survive in game would play at that distance, let alone in an aircraft haha. I ran 3.5 -4.5 kilos MINIMUM on a LAPTOP sporting just a gtx 860m! For ground combat! More for vehicles more for the air!
Depois de muito tempo finalmente consegui comprar a minha, é surreal o desempenho que essa placa trás nos jogos. Estou trazendo conteúdo de gameplay em 4k em um monitor ultrawide 32:9 com resolução 5120x1440 e consigo rodar os jogos mais pesados da atualidade em mais de 120 FPS, tudo isso enquanto gravo a tela. Forza Horizon 5, GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption. É sensacional.
@@Elias-lp1kh Show meu mano, parabéns pela conquista. Eu migrei de Odyssey G9 pra Odyssey Ark, esse novo lançamento da Samsung trás várias tecnologias diferentes de imagens, os vídeos ficam muito mais vívidos, mais bonitos, to trazendo conteúdo em 8K HDR.
The Test should have been done in online mode, as it is heavier, then we would have a real idea of performance and frame rate, coop mode makes the game much lighter compared to Online in Wasteland mode on the Stratis or Altis map
Yeah, I've heard the team has been working hard on that. They just put out the Arma Reforger mod that uses the new engine. I don't think it has any of the same CPU limitations.
@@Daniel-oc8sx I tried it on launch, it's a new title, its more arcade than sandbox sim. Nothing like arma series before. The rumours of A4 moving to the new engine was all that, rumours. It was Reforger all along. Theres not one key intel suggesting theere ever will be A4, trust me, i've been observant since 2015.
Unbelievable that not only does the game not manage a 60fps target but ground textures and LOD also just look horrible. This is how I remember ArmA 2 on medium settings a hundred years ago.
It’s a small map in single player. My GTX980 can do the same in 4K and very HIGH settings. In multiplayer with big map and 100 players you’ll get 10-40 FPS in FULLHD and medium settings
Aclaremos algo, como simulador Arma 3 es una reliquia pero en el apartado de optimización para que el simulador se adapte a las nuevas tecnologías y el rendimiento del los componentes de la gama alta, deja mucho que desear, pero bueno, no se puede tener todo en esta vida. Larga vida a Arma 3...
This game could take a dump on Crysis as the bench mark test. LOL The game does look pretty good, for it's time. Muddy textures, but that's how it was in olden times.
Clan Olimpo. Somos un grupo de simulación militar realista, enfocados en llevar una experiencia totalmente inmersiva, como si se tratase de un día en un cuartel real, nos gusta llevar acabo todo lo que significa ser militar. Enfocados en una sección que se divide en tres grupo: Infantería, Aérea y Reconocimiento Especial. Horario: Viernes Opcional 20:00 -24:00·ESP 15:00-19:00·ARG Sábado Opcional 20:00 -24:00·ESP Instrucción/Misión 15:00-19:00·ARG Domingo Misión Oficial 20:00-24:00·ESP 15:00-19:00·ARG Eventos Especiales: Pueden ser cualquier día de la semana Servidores: -Servidor propio de TS3. -Servidor propio de Arma 3. Misiones: -Misiones creadas por nuestro equipo de edición.
To make it realy "maximum settings" you should have to change "sampling" @general from 100% up to 400%. This will change the visuals but melts GPU as well.
Интересно, а если попробывать при таких настройках сделать общевойсковой бой, с артилерией, танками, ббм, вертолетами и кучей подразделений, ну например человек 500 с каждой из сторон, вот сколько у вас фпс при это будет? было бы интересно посмотреть лично я только такие сценарии создаю и играю, на компе за 50к, с вылетами и фпс в районе 10-30 при таких же настройках...
I like to make my own scenarios in Eden Editor of that is what you are talking about. Yeah eventually you could cripple any computer if you keep adding models.
the game isn't gpu heavy its cpu heavy to fix this download the addon from the workshop called Alive it simulates massive battles and you can either create your own or download ones from the shop from steam for different maps it makes it so there is combat happening but enemies dont actually show up until you get to a certain distance i have a rtx 3080 and an intel i9 11 gen running a little over 4 ghz with 8 cores still gotta upgrade but that will come in the future im gonna wait till my laptop is obsolete and with this Alive mod from the shop you can have awesome battles and im getting over 80 fps
the limitation is not the GPU, it is the CPU + old game engine limitation of resource utilization, I have an RTX 3090 and a 12700kf and the performance is the same.
One of the game mode developers for this told me it didn't matter if you used a NASA super computer you'd never see 60 solid FPS on Arma 3. Theres too much instability in the coding. A $2,000 GPU from 2023 can't run the game at a solid 55 FPS... my God.
I hope that in the future programmers can find a way to make cpu share some work with gpu, or the contrery, so that bottleneck of one of them wont happen
Finally, after 9 years, a $1600 GPU that can run the game in max settings above 40FPS.
The game is CPU limited as hell and always was.
@@bekeviktor4753 engine is total crap, not CPU limited you can see it on overlay. Buy finally they improve their engine in Arma Reforger, so next big Arma should be good in technical aspects at least.
@@prarmageddon You dont have to be at or around 100% load to be CPU limited, the game still scales with every new generation of CPUs, but relies mostly on single core performance.
@@bekeviktor4753 then it's a shitty engine, which could not utilize all the resources available, isn't it? Basically 20+ years old Operation Flashpoint engine wih more shaders.
@@prarmageddon Yeah, the engine is definitely very bad at multi threading.
When you need a RTX 4090 to run everything at 4K in max settings for a game released in 2013, it can mean two things :
1. The game is ahead of his time
2. The game developers did a terribly bad job at performance optimization
im getting a feeling of the second option
@@d0m1n1cc No no stupid consumer it's always the 1st!
@@Ramboness oh yes ofc
I'm surprised that I managed to get the game to work with my 1st gen i5, 4gb ram with hd 7850 2gb back then despite everyone complaining about poor optimization.
Unfortunately it has been always up to modders to fix things on Arma ever since.
Game certainly wasnt ahead of its time in this case.
Junk engine.
It was always my dream playing this game with all settings maxed out. Even the view distance part. This would be so much fun.
Gonna be honest with you,
Coming from someone who tends to play it Ultra but rather plays High/Extrahigh for the extra performance.... Graphically it's not much different.
@@Sire.English have you tried squad? its looking almost the same on low as it looks o ultra
@@squadenjoyer There is no game that looks the same on Ultra compared with low. You just don't play enough games. period.
@@thesecret111 play squad then let me know, also i said almost:)
Much space does this game needs
A lot of people are missing the 4k bit, this is actually impressive although its a real shame arma cant utilize the full CPU or GPU
It can utilize full GPU. Try running it with a GTX970
Star Citizen actually runs better on 4k with the 4090 than this. Just poor optimization on Bohemia
@@JacksonOfDork Jesus Christ, sir, this is running on a 10-year old engine. What the hell do you expect, huh?
@@Saitanen doesn’t change the fact its poorly optimised no?
Why have 4K, when the textures can't keep up with it?
Thanks for maxing out the view distance and object distance!
What about pip
I mean, It would have been nice to have seen it maxed out, but over 5 km is a pretty good distance. The other two being maxed out are going to do enough to wreak havoc on any system. It's at least enough to let me know how well it's going to perform.
When you realize that arma 3 is a CPU game instead of a GPU game
23% cpu usage...
@@ShirkDestroyer Unfortunately, you don't understand those numbers and how the CPU works...
Arma3 is only able to use 4 CPU threads. I5-12600K has 6+4 cores and 16 threads. So 23% is the equivalent of 4 threads at 100%
After a few changes in the code, you can use more, but you can read about it online. (but more Ghz is better than numbers of threads )
In addition, RAM is VERY important, specifically its speed.
If the author had DDR5 e.g. 6400, the result would be much, much better.
Best regards,
Andix🙂
@@pycho2160 there is littearly option in launcher where you can put how much cores and threads you wanna use for arma...
@@ShirkDestroyer yep, it's a faster way
@@pycho2160 That's not true if you look at task manager utilization. It does spread to all cores if you set it right in the launcher. However, it's not that efficient at doing that.
i9 11900k with 64Gb Ram and 4070Ti TUF gaming, 12 fps in dense battle. Love you Arma 🤗🤪
need old cpu with 4 or 2 threads
اون کامنت فارسی که دنبالش میگردی منم😂
no one cares brown iranians
Pashm
dont blow
ARMA still one of the most demanding games on PC. It still eats up the best GPU and CPU you can throw at it. A top end PC and still less than 60fps on 4k. And that was on the least 'taxing' island in the game!! Thanks for the video. Good info.
The problem is, it doesn't look that good anymore. It's just trash optimized.
Yea the game is pretty badly optimized but he could have gone into the parameters in the launcher to change some settings to his pc to get actually who knows fps. 10-100? depending on the cpu and still alot. they have a wiki showing what is more demanding for the gpu and the cpu aswell.
You're absolutely wrong in this. It will eat your CPU that's for sure but take a look at the GPU usage... Arma has never used in my PC life more then 80% GPU usage where it should be at 99% to fully use it's potential. This due to the engine just being shit and outdated. Look at DayZ for example, they revamped the engine and something similar will be used for Arma 4.
This game is not demanding, the engine is shit.
nah its not look at numbers its utilizing only 26% of cpu lol
Very optimized game 💀
fr. but it could be worst considering it came out in 2013
ever played arma 3?
@@240hzGaming yes i love that game and i played it for more than 300h but i have to say that's it's really badly optimized
@@mathisramboz2247 I got over 7k hours and it’s a very good game but so what it got released in 2013 it’s nearly 10 years old the game is still very much alive
@@240hzGaming yea this game still a masterpiece ,reforger is really Bad in my opinion
This is my favorite game of all time. I say favorite because this game has more hours played than any other in my library. For I have almost 3k. not much to some but insane to others. One of a kind. No competitor to Arma, not even close.
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Ich habe 11 k Stunden im Spiel.
@@omar_orient_5938 English please Zjermannnn
Finally a draw distance worth benchmarking! I commend you for going to 12 kilos. Every time I see a benchmark for this they do 2500m as if someone who wants to survive in game would play at that distance, let alone in an aircraft haha. I ran 3.5 -4.5 kilos MINIMUM on a LAPTOP sporting just a gtx 860m! For ground combat! More for vehicles more for the air!
im ready for another disappointment
Damn me too, I had the lenovo Y50
Depois de muito tempo finalmente consegui comprar a minha, é surreal o desempenho que essa placa trás nos jogos. Estou trazendo conteúdo de gameplay em 4k em um monitor ultrawide 32:9 com resolução 5120x1440 e consigo rodar os jogos mais pesados da atualidade em mais de 120 FPS, tudo isso enquanto gravo a tela. Forza Horizon 5, GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption. É sensacional.
Eu tb jogo ultrawide, mas monitor 21:9 3440 x 1440 e minha rtx 4090 sobra desempenho. Essa vai ficar por anos!
@@Elias-lp1kh Show meu mano, parabéns pela conquista. Eu migrei de Odyssey G9 pra Odyssey Ark, esse novo lançamento da Samsung trás várias tecnologias diferentes de imagens, os vídeos ficam muito mais vívidos, mais bonitos, to trazendo conteúdo em 8K HDR.
@@giplaygamer Boa, top de mais.
I love the "Nikolaos Sialmas MOLON LAVE" main screen theme! HAF Forever!
wow the Squad alpha looked great
Thank you for bringing joy to the world with this selfie🙏🙏🙏
2013...... dayum, those weapons-mechanics and how quickly u die, ahh... and it immediately makes me think of dayz obviously
Imagine the day grass can be rendered on the distant hills...
Мое мнение Это лучшая игра с открытым миром с модами.
Забросил все дути батлфилды и все такое.. только играю в арму !!! Арма рулит.🎉🎉🎉
Finally at least few stutters. you ever get CTDs still?
The Test should have been done in online mode, as it is heavier, then we would have a real idea of performance and frame rate, coop mode makes the game much lighter compared to Online in Wasteland mode on the Stratis or Altis map
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He speaks Persian 😂😂❤️
چقدر خوب پرواز میکنید کاش منم میتونستم اینطوری پرواز کنم
Wow, this game really needs full-blown optimization. It doesn't matter if you have a 100 times more powerful setup. It still gonna run like shit.
Yeah, I've heard the team has been working hard on that. They just put out the Arma Reforger mod that uses the new engine. I don't think it has any of the same CPU limitations.
Not a need anymore. There will be an Arma 4 soon
@@uwiko7220 They arent even developing it yet. Fake news since 2017.
@@Ricqu Arma Reforger my guy, what world do you live in? That's a preview of whats to come. They are obviously developing it
@@Daniel-oc8sx I tried it on launch, it's a new title, its more arcade than sandbox sim. Nothing like arma series before. The rumours of A4 moving to the new engine was all that, rumours. It was Reforger all along. Theres not one key intel suggesting theere ever will be A4, trust me, i've been observant since 2015.
Great gameplay footage😉💛💯👍
When you realize there is someone out there who can actually complete Arma3 missions...
Maybe should trying Arma Reforger?
Cute graphic. I like your piloting skill 😍
узнаю Арму, что-то никогда не меняется - требовательность к железу, что и 8 лет назад
Unbelievable that not only does the game not manage a 60fps target but ground textures and LOD also just look horrible. This is how I remember ArmA 2 on medium settings a hundred years ago.
Only time I get 60 fps and higher for arma 3 is when I use geforce cloud
after 10 hard years no one could run it above 60 fps
now we can ask "But can it run Arma III ?" instead of crysis lol
6:10 My dude accidentally fired at friendly, lol...
It’s a small map in single player.
My GTX980 can do the same in 4K and very HIGH settings.
In multiplayer with big map and 100 players you’ll get 10-40 FPS in FULLHD and medium settings
Not likely. My I7 gtx980 won’t
@@countgrishnackh6823 neither does my 1070, the games engine is just terrible and poorly optimised.
The ottimization of this game is increbily 😂
Incredible
incredible 1050Ti performance
It's no longer "Can it run crisis?" it's "Can it run arma 3?"
60 fps is just a dream in arma3
Updated the computer and the FPS did not increase?
this is how I saw Playstation 1 the first time.
Are you doing well with that PSU? I just bought a corsair RM1000x, how do you see it for the 4090?
Are you flying with joystick or mouse? Nice flying.
And this is vanilla game without playing on a server with other people.
~Don't be shy, turn up that sampling.
This is a CPU bound game, You can see the GPU usage doesn't go above 40-50%. You'd get the same performance with a 3070.
Those hely moves looks ridiculous af!
Sweet view distance!! Yummy! 😋
Still looks great, what mission is this ? Can you play as CSAT in vanilla ? Thanks in advance
It is called Showcase: Helicopters. Yes you can be CSAT in the vanilla game in'shallah
Again, it's not about GPU, it's about CPU's single thread performance. (It does run on multiple threads, but not that efficiently)
Bro whole career is about is grafic card and bro went from 1050 to 4090 that’s a crazy upgrade
its their signature move, exploit weaknesses
I play arma 3 on my old i7-4thgen laptop. Its a demanding game but surprised it still plays decent though im on the lowest settings for warlords.
este juego me andaria een un ryzen 5 4600g 16gb ram ?
Aclaremos algo, como simulador Arma 3 es una reliquia pero en el apartado de optimización para que el simulador se adapte a las nuevas tecnologías y el rendimiento del los componentes de la gama alta, deja mucho que desear, pero bueno, no se puede tener todo en esta vida.
Larga vida a Arma 3...
Amazing pc built
Arma 3 is the new crysis.
This game could take a dump on Crysis as the bench mark test. LOL
The game does look pretty good, for it's time. Muddy textures, but that's how it was in olden times.
Wow. I thought that helicopter might crash at times in this game.
Clan Olimpo.
Somos un grupo de simulación militar realista, enfocados en llevar una experiencia totalmente inmersiva, como si se tratase de un día en un cuartel real, nos gusta llevar acabo todo lo que significa ser militar.
Enfocados en una sección que se divide en tres grupo: Infantería, Aérea y Reconocimiento Especial.
Horario:
Viernes Opcional 20:00 -24:00·ESP
15:00-19:00·ARG
Sábado Opcional 20:00 -24:00·ESP Instrucción/Misión
15:00-19:00·ARG
Domingo Misión Oficial 20:00-24:00·ESP
15:00-19:00·ARG
Eventos Especiales: Pueden ser cualquier día de la semana
Servidores:
-Servidor propio de TS3.
-Servidor propio de Arma 3.
Misiones:
-Misiones creadas por nuestro equipo de edición.
Wow, you look great👏💐
на карте Кхешань поставьте более 200 юнитов в редакторе и вы прекрасно увидите как всё тормозит и прерывается.
wow,.
crazy graphics,.
try I have a pc spec like you,.!!
That bottleneck is crazy
I wonder how they test this game during development when even now it runs just okay with modern technology?
To make it realy "maximum settings" you should have to change "sampling" @general from 100% up to 400%. This will change the visuals but melts GPU as well.
Для этой игры с семплированием в 400% ещё не изобрели видеокарту )))
why are you using an i5 12600k on arma 3?
Totally unoptimized
Какой геймпад используешь для управления вертолётом ?
Геймпад и летать в арме это не совместимые вещи. Поверь мышка удобнее и лучше
i call this game in Brazil as a national slang of ours: "Avá-3"
Wow man. This is aaaamaazing ❤❤
looks same as my 3060ti. Arma3 is a CPU intensive game.
Damn good pilot
Thumbnail graphics: 🤯
Gameplay graphics: ☠
دستخوش
Why is the gpu load only on 40%?
Great gameplay 👍
now try a full Koth Server in Arma 3
great vid in great game in great channel
Iran and persian army on top❤️💪💪
Just like in real life!
not the shiite iran
you dont have the option for the extreme settings? only ultra?
game engine limitation? since both GPU and CPU is so relaxed but dips in fps
арма в 4к это сильно, сильно
Интересно, а если попробывать при таких настройках сделать общевойсковой бой, с артилерией, танками, ббм, вертолетами и кучей подразделений, ну например человек 500 с каждой из сторон, вот сколько у вас фпс при это будет? было бы интересно посмотреть
лично я только такие сценарии создаю и играю, на компе за 50к, с вылетами и фпс в районе 10-30 при таких же настройках...
там видюха в проц упирается она работает на 30-40%
15-25 фпс
I like to make my own scenarios in Eden Editor of that is what you are talking about. Yeah eventually you could cripple any computer if you keep adding models.
@@ayliniemi не спорю, думаю новые технологии исправят данные ограничения)
CPU is about of 27% and GPU of 35%. 55 fps. Good work with optimization. ☠️
gg
The soldiers speak Persian 😂😂
Why is there hand animation of closing door of the helicopter when there is no animation of the door opening ? 🤣
How much Energy u need for this GPU ? A Generator ?
selling recap?
What about crysis 4k ultra D:!?
The temperature of the GPU was between 40-45 .. Is this true? Do you use a water cooler or what ?
well you dont want to know
the game isn't gpu heavy its cpu heavy to fix this download the addon from the workshop called Alive it simulates massive battles and you can either create your own or download ones from the shop from steam for different maps it makes it so there is combat happening but enemies dont actually show up until you get to a certain distance i have a rtx 3080 and an intel i9 11 gen running a little over 4 ghz with 8 cores still gotta upgrade but that will come in the future im gonna wait till my laptop is obsolete and with this Alive mod from the shop you can have awesome battles and im getting over 80 fps
Can you play on Taunus a bit? ;-)
curious if battle royal is a laggy still?
Why you using an i5 12600k with an rtx 4090 ?
And you are in Malden, if you try altis or livonia, gg
the limitation is not the GPU, it is the CPU + old game engine limitation of resource utilization, I have an RTX 3090 and a 12700kf and the performance is the same.
If he went into editor and kept adding in models for say an epic scale war I bet it would still bring his config to its knees
One of the game mode developers for this told me it didn't matter if you used a NASA super computer you'd never see 60 solid FPS on Arma 3. Theres too much instability in the coding. A $2,000 GPU from 2023 can't run the game at a solid 55 FPS... my God.
Which level / situation is this?
We love that game,we just need it to work properly…
Whats the point of higher resolution? More grass and other vegetation at longer distance! That's should be the point and priority in such game.
YEEEEEEEEEEES!
I hope that in the future programmers can find a way to make cpu share some work with gpu, or the contrery, so that bottleneck of one of them wont happen
Congrats you spent 2k to get 5% better frames than the last card.