If you're wondering about pruning Floricane Blackberries this is for you. After Blackberry canes produce their spring crop they start to die and need to be pruned out. These are Ponca Blackberries which are a Floricane variety. Therefore, they will NOT produce anymore berries this season. So, Post Harvest, all the old canes can and SHOULD be, pruned out. All my Blackberry plants are in containers now, specifically Wicking Tubs. They are doing amazing, both the Poncas and the Prime Ark Freedom Blackberries I have. Thanks for watching! alan Check out my Website. I've written dozens of articles pertaining to all areas of homesteading and self sufficiency. Here's the link: homesteadadvisor.com/ homesteadadvisor.com/
I remember as a boy picking wild blackberries in the hot summeries of Alabama. The wasp nests were more feared than the copperheads. They have what we called red wasps. Their sting is very painful.
My black satins are just now starting to ripen. I was at a commercial black berry farm years ago. Their trellis was tall. They would coil the canes around the lower and upper wires. Basically forming a tunnel. My satins are loaded with berries. I will have to take the old canes out. Being in the ground, will be more work. Too cold here for above ground pots. My primo cane Raspberry plants are not big yet. Both are in 5s, but have berries. You might try giving those plants a mixture of fish emulsion to get them sending out new canes.
I put up a small fence and planted a black raspberry plant in Colorado, today. The deer already proved that they are willing to sacrifice their mouth of thorns to taste the bush. Hopefully the fence keeps them back long enough for it to root.
Hang in there . Southeast texas here and i know the feeling, nice and toasted.. we the Texans don't give that's for sure rain or shine or in this heat . God bless.
Just pruned my old growth on my Ponca 7/20 and my new canes were already 5-6 feet tall, about 5 canes per plant . I pruned them to about 5' and mine are in ground.
Just fyi, as you ponder the new primocane production…Dr Clark has said that the Ponca are unique in that primocane production doesn’t occur until after fruiting. That’s a positive trait in that you don’t have to be tipping and the same time you are harvesting. If you watch his video again on the Ponca, you’ll probably catch it. 🙂 And that’s a little elm sapling coming up. Pull it quick! They are very aggressive in root production.
Wish you had trimmed a couple only HALF way down to see if the old canes will send out new laterals? Please be sure to do the follow-up video as I will be watching your results.
I grew raspberries from a friend, never did a thing to them at all. They stayed semi-straggly, did send out some new canes, and I did get raspberries from it every year, sometimes even on the old canes. So are raspberries a different type of plant that requires different pruning techniques? I'm new at this, literally had these at the back of the yard unattended.
@@sn232 raspberries are a different species than a blackberry, they are essentially cousins. Black raspberries have some similar characteristics and some maintenance is similar to blackberries such as summer tipping, cane thinning and removal of spent canes. Red and Gold raspberries require some different techniques altogether. Additionally, a lot of care centers on if the raspberries are everbearing or summer bearing. Plenty of information online…and some of it is actually correct. 😁
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Can you run all of your floricane cuttings through a wood chipper and add to your compost, or onto a path in a garden, OR would that be a risk for blackberry plants sprouting up everywhere?
Thanks for the tips! Keep up the great videos! Just looking at your drip line on the Ponca buckets, it appears the emitters are installed backwards…if they are CETA drip emitters?
My in ground poncas did the same as yours, no new canes? The two I have in pots sent up new canes in early spring. I removed the old floricanes about two weeks ago and a few are sprouting from the old stump. I’ve had my sweetie pies do that as well. I’m a little concerned just like you. The heat we had in Louisiana in May and June completely shut down the ripening of my Ponca crop. The plants kept flowering and putting out new berries but they wouldn’t ripen in the extreme heat we had.
Someone said they wait till the crop is finished to send up new canes... I hope that's true. I have seen one or 2 since I pruned these... so... hopefully... 👍
I'm still studying your videos so I'm trying to make sure I understand this. Because this is a floricane, you can prune back all mature canes? Just leaving new growth that will be fruit producers next year. I'm about to.start a search for a Poncha and a Ouachita.
Nice job. I still need to transplant my ten plants from the ground to my 50 gal drum halves that will be their future home with Hoss Tool drip irrigation system. Question? How far do you have your plants apart?
When you prune at 4 feet, when do you do your next pruning? Mine are over 4’ and I have gone horizontal. PAF plants, first year bare root. Did not produce over a hand full of berries. Any ideas? I don’t have any dead canes, zone 7b. Little Rock, Arkansas
You shouldn't expect a lot the first year from PAF's that were from bare root. You can prune the laterals at 16-18" BUT... Watch them before you prune. IF they are starting to form blooms, hold off on the pruning. They might make you some summer/fall berries. Here's what I did last year: th-cam.com/video/yRy41bYQGOw/w-d-xo.html
@@BIGALTX Thanks so much, just need to wait on the plants. This hot weather (100+) in Arkansas is killing my garden. Struggling..... thanks again for your help.. appreciate your Time and Knowledge.. God Bless
@TexasPrepper I only got a handful of berries from my many thornless plants. The oldest plants looked great and had fruit on them, earlier, but the fruit was either gone, had some ants on it, or was dried up and black by July-August. The leaves also have spots on them, but apparently not the stems. What could be the problem? Should I cut them all down to the ground, remove the mulch? Should I spray with fungicide. I’ve searched and I can’t find an answer. I would so much appreciate your expertise.
Nooooo... don't cut them down to the ground... unless... they have made their berries and are spent. They will die then and shoot up new canes. Here's are good videos on that: Primocanes: th-cam.com/video/4pTBRe4z83c/w-d-xo.html Floricanes: th-cam.com/video/JZAFfGE8sK0/w-d-xo.html You need to determine whether you have Primocane or Floricane varieties
Do you put the pruned out branches in your compost or what do you do with them? Great videos, thank you. I never would have pruned my thornless blackberries had I not known to. I had 2 nee canes sprout up and I tupped them like you did in a past video for side growth and it worked great!!!!! Thank you so much!
88 degrees + Texas = nice. 88 degrees + Ohio = Run out to turn on the sprinkler and run back in to the air conditioning. You are some tough folks down there.
@@BIGALTX Yes, it does. It'll be in the mid 80s all week and we had a 95 day earlier. But only you tough Texans call 88 nice. I'll be mowing the lawn at 7am and hiding inside by noon. I'm such a wimp. But to be fair I only wear a hoodie pretty much all winter and we wear shorts at anything above freezing so I guess tough is relative.
Pretty much. All dead 2nd year canes come out after they fruit Make sure they are DEAD before you prune them out Here are the PAF prunings: th-cam.com/video/4pTBRe4z83c/w-d-xo.html
In the summer, if it’s very hot, I usually water nearly every day. This time of year maybe once a week if that often. If we’re getting rain, I don’t think they need to be watered now because they are semi-dormant and not really growing much at this point. They’re not needing much water.
When the canes fruit, then die, THAT's when you take them out. Make sure they are DEAD when you prune them out. Lots of pruning videos that cover all the seasons of pruning here: th-cam.com/video/EjFz4I_31mU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/DIcyu-svBVE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Vh1MsLsKv34/w-d-xo.html
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Give your plants a natural fertilizer like worm castings or better yet, bat guano. They are probably suffering from a nutrient deficiency of some sort.
If you're wondering about pruning Floricane Blackberries this is for you.
After Blackberry canes produce their spring crop they start to die and need to be pruned out. These are Ponca Blackberries which are a Floricane variety. Therefore, they will NOT produce anymore berries this season. So, Post Harvest, all the old canes can and SHOULD be, pruned out. All my Blackberry plants are in containers now, specifically Wicking Tubs.
They are doing amazing, both the Poncas and the Prime Ark Freedom Blackberries I have.
Thanks for watching!
alan
Check out my Website.
I've written dozens of articles pertaining to all areas of homesteading and self sufficiency.
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I remember as a boy picking wild blackberries in the hot summeries of Alabama. The wasp nests were more feared than the copperheads. They have what we called red wasps. Their sting is very painful.
Absolutely.. I've had to get nests out of my berries too.
I think most of the nests I removed/killed were yellow jackets, though.
My black satins are just now starting to ripen.
I was at a commercial black berry farm years ago. Their trellis was tall. They would coil the canes around the lower and upper wires. Basically forming a tunnel.
My satins are loaded with berries. I will have to take the old canes out. Being in the ground, will be more work. Too cold here for above ground pots.
My primo cane Raspberry plants are not big yet. Both are in 5s, but have berries.
You might try giving those plants a mixture of fish emulsion to get them sending out new canes.
Good idea... I think I have some fish emulsion!
I put up a small fence and planted a black raspberry plant in Colorado, today. The deer already proved that they are willing to sacrifice their mouth of thorns to taste the bush. Hopefully the fence keeps them back long enough for it to root.
Try a HOT wire.
Deer really don't like hot wires :)
Hang in there . Southeast texas here and i know the feeling, nice and toasted.. we the Texans don't give that's for sure rain or shine or in this heat . God bless.
Yep... Y'all are suffering in this heat too :(
@@BIGALTX i understand, and i wonder if this heat continues... when to plant our fall crops or even winter 🤷♀️
Hang in there .. God bless!
I'm wondering that too.
Lots of things won't germinate in this heat.
Just pruned my old growth on my Ponca 7/20 and my new canes were already 5-6 feet tall, about 5 canes per plant . I pruned them to about 5' and mine are in ground.
Hmmmm... I'm a little concerned that most of mine aren't putting out new canes.
Thanks for the info
Just fyi, as you ponder the new primocane production…Dr Clark has said that the Ponca are unique in that primocane production doesn’t occur until after fruiting. That’s a positive trait in that you don’t have to be tipping and the same time you are harvesting. If you watch his video again on the Ponca, you’ll probably catch it. 🙂
And that’s a little elm sapling coming up. Pull it quick! They are very aggressive in root production.
I watched Dr Clark's Poncas and he had a few primos that were up during fruiting.
I hope you're right.
I need to research that further
For me its hard to believe that yall already got blackberries! in the UK, were still about a month or so off our first harvest!
Wow. I didn't think your were that far behind us.
2 of my travelers didn't produced new canes from the root but they produced new shoots 2 inches above the existing cane, so will see how it goes.
Maybe they still will do that... I hope mine do
Wish you had trimmed a couple only HALF way down to see if the old canes will send out new laterals? Please be sure to do the follow-up video as I will be watching your results.
The old canes die, the will not send new shoots out. New shoots only come from the crown.
Will do...
That has always been my experience, but we will see what the Poncas do...
I grew raspberries from a friend, never did a thing to them at all. They stayed semi-straggly, did send out some new canes, and I did get raspberries from it every year, sometimes even on the old canes. So are raspberries a different type of plant that requires different pruning techniques? I'm new at this, literally had these at the back of the yard unattended.
@@sn232 raspberries are a different species than a blackberry, they are essentially cousins. Black raspberries have some similar characteristics and some maintenance is similar to blackberries such as summer tipping, cane thinning and removal of spent canes. Red and Gold raspberries require some different techniques altogether. Additionally, a lot of care centers on if the raspberries are everbearing or summer bearing. Plenty of information online…and some of it is actually correct. 😁
Not sure exactly where you are, but I am out in the country near farmersville and we didn't get a single drop. Rats!
Yep, y'all are getting hammered even more than we are
I wish you well...
I forgot how u build your wicking tubs I wish you tell and show me how
Wicking Tubs:
Here's how to get them: th-cam.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/w-d-xo.html
Here's how to make them: th-cam.com/video/9guNoWP8_ls/w-d-xo.html
Here's my "Hybrid" tub: th-cam.com/video/radHBan7-BI/w-d-xo.html
Can you run all of your floricane cuttings through a wood chipper and add to your compost, or onto a path in a garden, OR would that be a risk for blackberry plants sprouting up everywhere?
I think it would be ok.
If they have time to "dry out" they should not be viable.
Thanks for the tips! Keep up the great videos! Just looking at your drip line on the Ponca buckets, it appears the emitters are installed backwards…if they are CETA drip emitters?
No, they are not backwards.
Not even sure if emitters will even function backwards.
The "barbed" end is in the mainline tubing
My in ground poncas did the same as yours, no new canes? The two I have in pots sent up new canes in early spring. I removed the old floricanes about two weeks ago and a few are sprouting from the old stump. I’ve had my sweetie pies do that as well. I’m a little concerned just like you. The heat we had in Louisiana in May and June completely shut down the ripening of my Ponca crop. The plants kept flowering and putting out new berries but they wouldn’t ripen in the extreme heat we had.
Someone said they wait till the crop is finished to send up new canes... I hope that's true.
I have seen one or 2 since I pruned these... so... hopefully... 👍
I think those are little elm treelings
That's what several folks have said... I just pulled most of them UP! :)
I'm still studying your videos so I'm trying to make sure I understand this. Because this is a floricane, you can prune back all mature canes? Just leaving new growth that will be fruit producers next year. I'm about to.start a search for a Poncha and a Ouachita.
I used pense nursery this year.
Nice job. I still need to transplant my ten plants from the ground to my 50 gal drum halves that will be their future home with Hoss Tool drip irrigation system. Question? How far do you have your plants apart?
There is about 2 feet between tubs
That way they get more sunlight and more wind flow... seems to create less fungus problems
When you prune at 4 feet, when do you do your next pruning? Mine are over 4’ and I have gone horizontal. PAF plants, first year bare root. Did not produce over a hand full of berries. Any ideas? I don’t have any dead canes, zone 7b. Little Rock, Arkansas
You shouldn't expect a lot the first year from PAF's that were from bare root.
You can prune the laterals at 16-18"
BUT... Watch them before you prune. IF they are starting to form blooms, hold off on the pruning.
They might make you some summer/fall berries.
Here's what I did last year:
th-cam.com/video/yRy41bYQGOw/w-d-xo.html
@@BIGALTX Thanks so much, just need to wait on the plants. This hot weather (100+) in Arkansas is killing my garden. Struggling..... thanks again for your help.. appreciate your Time and Knowledge.. God Bless
What size drip emitters, and how long and how often do you water?
Thanks from Tucson Az
They are 2 GPH emitters and in the hot summer I give them 2 to 3 gallons per day.
@TexasPrepper I only got a handful of berries from my many thornless plants. The oldest plants looked great and had fruit on them, earlier, but the fruit was either gone, had some ants on it, or was dried up and black by July-August.
The leaves also have spots on them, but apparently not the stems. What could be the problem?
Should I cut them all down to the ground, remove the mulch? Should I spray with fungicide. I’ve searched and I can’t find an answer. I would so much appreciate your expertise.
Nooooo... don't cut them down to the ground... unless... they have made their berries and are spent.
They will die then and shoot up new canes. Here's are good videos on that:
Primocanes: th-cam.com/video/4pTBRe4z83c/w-d-xo.html
Floricanes: th-cam.com/video/JZAFfGE8sK0/w-d-xo.html
You need to determine whether you have Primocane or Floricane varieties
I have a problem with something eating holes in the leaves of all varieties. What do you use for insects that eat holes?
You can try Bug Buster 0: amzn.to/3RPS2Zl (organic)
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Do you put the pruned out branches in your compost or what do you do with them? Great videos, thank you. I never would have pruned my thornless blackberries had I not known to. I had 2 nee canes sprout up and I tupped them like you did in a past video for side growth and it worked great!!!!! Thank you so much!
No, I don't compost them
Probably could... but I always have a brush pile waiting to throw them in
I'll burn them when it gets cooler and wetter 👍😎
After you burn the canes can you use the ash in the garden?
I assume so...
are you going to plant the cuttings?
No, all these are from spent canes. They are dead or dying after fruiting this year.
They wouldn't propagate
@@BIGALTX thank you.
88 degrees + Texas = nice. 88 degrees + Ohio = Run out to turn on the sprinkler and run back in to the air conditioning. You are some tough folks down there.
It gets hot up there every once and a while doesn't it?
@@BIGALTX Yes, it does. It'll be in the mid 80s all week and we had a 95 day earlier. But only you tough Texans call 88 nice. I'll be mowing the lawn at 7am and hiding inside by noon. I'm such a wimp. But to be fair I only wear a hoodie pretty much all winter and we wear shorts at anything above freezing so I guess tough is relative.
Did you prune the prime ark the same way?
Pretty much.
All dead 2nd year canes come out after they fruit
Make sure they are DEAD before you prune them out
Here are the PAF prunings: th-cam.com/video/4pTBRe4z83c/w-d-xo.html
how often and how much water do you apply using the drip irrigation?
In the summer, if it’s very hot, I usually water nearly every day.
This time of year maybe once a week if that often. If we’re getting rain, I don’t think they need to be watered now because they are semi-dormant and not really growing much at this point. They’re not needing much water.
@@BIGALTX thank you
Do you need to trim them back like this each year?
After they fruit, they die.
ONLY remove the ones that are DEAD... obviously DEAD
Why do you have to wait until they are obviously dead before pruning if they have fruited and were harvested?
What date for pruing
When the canes fruit, then die, THAT's when you take them out.
Make sure they are DEAD when you prune them out.
Lots of pruning videos that cover all the seasons of pruning here:
th-cam.com/video/EjFz4I_31mU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/DIcyu-svBVE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Vh1MsLsKv34/w-d-xo.html
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I’ve got, what looks like rust on my blackberry. What do I do?
Give your plants a natural fertilizer like worm castings or better yet, bat guano. They are probably suffering from a nutrient deficiency of some sort.
Here's what I do: th-cam.com/video/SwGG-Zb1RyE/w-d-xo.html
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But could be fungus.
Depends on the humidity, etc