An excellent listen chaps 👍 I went into the queue, went in the store, browsed and left. I'm going to wait for the PDFs (I have over 3000 PTS of Dark Elves) and then rely on mates who bought the rules to play 😉 Lack of support for "legacy" armies doesn't really bother me as I don't intend on ever playing in stores or tournaments and narrative play lends itself to community led amendments and mods. It is just a game after all and meant to be enjoyed 🙂👍 looking forward to the next one
They’ve had to test the water a bit with WTOW plans and releases. Maybe they’ll rescind their ideas about legacy factions going forwards. Seems like a business decision as there was definitely balancing work put into that has turned out to be the legacy armies. Regarding white dwarf, I had a sub as a gift for a few years, but I didn’t read it all and mostly I like them for the painting articles. Particularly as I wasn’t playing ant GW games. Mostly know I buy one for the painting articles. I think usually people’s favourite WD era is the one where they were most active. So probably mid to late 90’s would be my favourite period as I used to read those over to cover. The thing I do really miss from WD is the master class painting articles. Would love to see a return of those. All in all another entertaining episode gents.
Thoroughly enjoyed the hobby hour which I watched in Thailand on my way to Chiang Rai. I’m sure nostalgia must play a part but the best White Dwarfs for me were the older ones but to be fair I enjoyed all the older eras not just one of them the best. Back when Fantasy used to heavily feature and I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say the view of the current magazine is coloured by the fact we don’t play these games. I’ll want to collect it again once Old World is in it. I have a bit of interest in 40K minis and I like the aesthetic of a number of the AOS ranges because they can substitute for fantasy but I don’t actually play either of those games so I don’t get a lot out of the magazine when I do occasionally purchase it On a side note I’m sorry Dan got so hard done by since he has access to Warhammer World and wanted to play there. In my usual home of Australia there isn’t much impact of their ill thought out decision but for those of us who collect/ed legacy factions does seem a bit rough to say the least. Glad I have an interest in a number of remaining factions that are considered core
@@MiniatureRealms very much so. Great place for a holiday. Plenty to see and the food as you could expect is generally very good and of a high standard. Meant to be winter here too but certainly doesn’t feel chilly lol
@@MiniatureRealms I bet it is. You guys invented cold weather 😂. It is about 30C here in the day but surprisingly it doesn’t feel hot…but then it is summer is AUS so it is cooler by comparison
I was really lucky to get everything I wanted except the stuff that didn’t go up, and the CE Lords of the Lance. I saved 1500$ for this launch over the past 9 months. I got both boxes, all four books, a Paladin on BSB. Grail Knights, Yoeman, Unfortunately the lady, BSB on warhorse, Paladin on foot, and the dice haven’t gone up for sale yet here. I already have a large Bret army I have been rebasing. The Tomb Kings are new year, new army. I added a Necrosphynx, Settra, some Ushatbi. I have multiple sprues of Skeletons from the long ago times that I never built. And I think I have plenty of chariots as well. I haven’t bought new GW sculpts since end times except for a beastmen army I had wanted for a while. I never stopped playing WHFB in all that time. I have 11 armies, and friends with multiple armies who love to play. So this is truly Christmas for us. Especially me, as a long time Bretonnia player, never getting love or a new model for 20 years. I’ve been playing since 1993. Christ, im getting old. Oh, and I am printing my own magic, magic items, and whatever else cards. Im also going to laminate them. I might even 3d print some tokens for USR’s. “Frenzy”, “Stubborn” and whatever I need, I can just put them on back of tray, maybe even modify a tray with a ledge in back to place the tokens on.
Sounds like you’re going to be in a fantastic place to move into the new edition, in many ways units of kept most of my old stuff, would have been lovely to be in a position of just having to rebase.
Definitely nostalgic for white dwarf. I was reading that in the early 90’s in the US and looked forward to it every month. I loved the painting and terrain articles, I loved seeing what was coming out next, the bat reps. I devoured every issue. Since the internet, I can get all of that content any time I want. So sad to say, I don’t even think about it anymore
My first WD was issue 15 in Oct/Nov 1979 and it covered D&D in the main but did range widely; every issue was a treat. I stopped in late 1983/early 1984 in my late teens but did resume when my sons started 40k in 2007 and they were thrilled by each issue in their early years. We still get it as it is always visually sumptuous.
Hoping for some articles in future White Dwarf covering the Old World. I have many of the early 2000’s and often refer back to them. Warhammer-vault is also a great archive for past editions.
I keep forgetting I’ve got access to the Warhammer Vault, though I found the reader was very slow to load each page. I think we will definitely see something in White Dwarf, maybe Feb or March.
Me: old. 69. Only got into miniatures, buying, painting & playing two +- years ago. Had some Ral Partha figures from last century due to doing some DnD. Also some m GHQ micro armour. Fistful of Lead woke my inner Orc. Thankfully I avoided things like Warhammer, 40K and all the big money eaters. You kept changing rules. Kept saying you can't use this but you can use this. I game the way I want to. Not the way somebody somewhere else tells me I have to. Osprey rules and FfoL ..all I need. Just want to be up front. I find some of the stuff you do very interesting so that's why I watch.
@charleslatora5750 Cheers Charles. I agree completely, you absolutely should do things the way you want and play the rules you want to. I love GW games, but they do make them hard to love sometimes, but like you I play many other things as well.
Happy new year lads! The dice pack is identical to the one in legions imperialis. As are the whippy sticks and the templates. I bet it was just "let's order the same package" to save some cash on production.
That’s a good shout, didn’t think of that. I suppose it’s also possible it’s just the wrong ones pictured and we do get both dice, but I think you’re probably correct. Happy New Year
After 1 hour in a queue I got access to website but rulebook was already sold out... so I didn't buy anything. I will wait until stock comes back or maybe I will find something in my local hobby stores. As much I was excited about TOW, after Pre order day my excitement is reduced and I turned to my old minis waiting to be assembled and painted (like Necromunda). Cool podcast (like always) 👍
It’s so depressing it sold out so fast. I think there’s quite a few stores that will have limited stock available on the day, so if you’re close to a GW I’d definitely be outside ready for it to open.
I think Dan should do an Empire army like you suggest Stu, the general and his force could be from Stirland. They fall under the sway of vampirism after a vampire escaped from Hel Fenn and later ‘acquires’ the Empire general as a new thrall. On the Artillery dice, you can just use a regular d6. Double the numbers 1-5 to get the right numeric value and the 6 is the misfire. Not ideal but works in a pinch!
Has Dan considered running those VC models as Tomb Kings? There is quite some overlap in units already, and doing "VC versions" of some more specific TK things - thinking Sphinx, snakeriders, giant - would be an interesting hobby challenge.
I like that idea, and suggested it to him as well. But I’ve not given it a huge amount of thought about how the theme would work with it. Could be fun though.
I love White Dwarf and really enjoy the current content, however the only thing that lets the current version down is the print quality, the old issues where much more punchy and vibrant.
Those that levy that White Dwarf is no longer any good are probably those who are not actually reading it regularly. I, like you both, grew up with White Dwarf as my main connective tissue to the hobby- long before the days of the internet and easily accessible information, it was my buoy to the hobby. White Dwarf is absolutely a value and a worthwhile periodical. Sure, it’s been through some questionable phases in its time, but it’s back to being a resource of fiction, hobby, and gaming! It’s motivating and inspiring and to me, that harkens back to when I was kid, first finding myself getting lost in this amazing hobby. When I didn’t have easy access to an FLG or Games Workshop store it was White Dwarf that fueled and preserved the Hobby for me. Even in periods of my life when I was no longer actively involved with the hobby, I would still pick up random White Dwarfs when I would see them to check back in and see where the Warhammer World was at in its evolution. I think the biggest problem is the space that is occupies juxtaposed to the worldwide web of content creation and other outlets of on-line easy-access content. It’s a tough slog for it; print media is always going to have a different battle against simply clicking on a link for content that doesn’t require or ask much of the viewer. I am a bit biased as a self-professed book lover, so I will always champion print media; it’s incredibly important that we simply don’t absorb all of our knowledge and information via streaming media, via the same source that we receive so much information through, i.e. our phones! I’ll step off my soapbox now :) Always enjoy your content and was glad to see this discussion come up. Cheers gents!
I've been picking it up monthly ever since the Bunker program launched, and I've been really pleased. The scenarios are fun, and there's usually at least one good story in each issue. There was a Red Gobbo story recently that made me actually give a crap about Da Revolushun as an in-universe faction in a way I'd not thought possible! It's nice to be able to unwind and unplug, and WD helps me get there.
Sad to see Dan so down on the vamps. Hopefully he pulls through and still does them, you don't need to listen to what games workshop considers "legal" I'm sure most events that aren't gw official (including ones I'll be running) won't require "tournament legal" factions
Way behind on videos I like so just catching up now - great discussion on WD - it's a really interesting one, it WAS better when I was young despite being pretty much exactly the same now - so why? I think you touched upon a lot of the main issues but there was one thing that occurred to me while you were talking that I'd never really considered before. You briefly mentioned the internet and War-Com but I think it's influence might be far larger. When I was getting WD in the 90s, I used to read EVERYTHING in it, despite the fact that I was only playing the Fantasy games. I would read the articles for Epic, 40K, Battlefleet Gothic etc. Despite the fact that I had no intention of playing those games, and I would argue today that all of those articles were GREAT - despite the fact that they probably exactly as good as the ones in WD now. So what's the difference? Volume of content! Back in the 90s, that magazine was literally the only way of engaging with GW's content at home, not just official content from GW, but there was no form of independent content. Now, in the era of the internet, social media forums and in particular TH-cam, there is a massive and constant stream of content about every possible wargaming itch. There is now far too much SBG content that I like out there for me to consume - let alone SBG content that I don't like - let alone content for other systems! I simply don't need to read articles about other systems as I can't keep up with all of the available content for the one system I play! As such, I ultimately think that WD may well be as good as it ever was, but that it now faces an impossible task: it has to appeal to players of all its games to encourage as many people as possible to buy it, when every single one of them would probably prefer it if it just focussed on one system. It breaks my heart as the thrill of a new WD was such a formative part of my teenage years but these days I think they're just producing a great magazine for people who p[lay both AOS and 40k - the rest of us are better suited finding our content elsewhere sadly :-( Great video as always dudes! Damian
Cheers Damian. Yep you’re totally right, it’s so many factors, but the wide availability of alternatives Vs what at the time was the ONLY resource (out side of Wargames Illustrated/Dragon magazine etc, but they had little GW coverage of any really), is by far the major reason for it losing its ‘special’ connection with the reader.
I got in to the GW website about 1012 and in the end didn’t buy anything. I have a metal Beastmen army so I’ve decided to wait for their Arcane Journal later this year (September?). The Dark Elf PDF will come shortly and my 2001 White Dwarf City Guard army will march again this year; from memory Witch Elves don’t ask permission to charge and certainly don’t wait for invitations to attend battles😂
@@MiniatureRealmsPictures of dice suggest Dwarves and Orks in the early summer so I’m hoping that the Autumn will bring Beastmen and Wood-elves - no facts were used in the making of a September Beastmen release.
I've started looking at some old issues of White Dwarf, and I'm not sure why but the new ones just... feel really hollow. They're not bad, but they don't have any of the charm or appeal that they had back in the early 2000s.
I hope a member of the board is watching some of this content with the realization “we are t selling more models because a business unit won’t get credit” Let me explain your business model GW …. You make miniatures -> you drive demand by the models having rules …. If a mode has rules for different games, you will sell more models Honestly, every time specialist games is involved they manage to fuck things up
I don’t think it has anything to do with specialist games per se, it’s the way the company as a whole interacts with that side of the business. Saying that, Kill Team, Warcry, Cursed City etc, I could go on, all the same issues and not specialist design studio. It’s just not them, it’s the capacity, forecasting, and so on and so forth.
I had a subscription to White Dwarf, I cancelled it when I received the first Warhammer Visions. It was truly appalling. I also wrote an actual letter to GW telling them about xactly what I thought. It does seem reasonable again these days, but I don't have any interest in AoS, anc 40K gameplay has taken a direction I don't like. I can get what I want on the internet now.
I feel for folk whose armies or collections are unsupported by GW, either through slow rollout, or just dropped lists. However, I would stress the point that this is because the whole GW model is not about existing, experienced gamers. Their biggest sales demographic in the UK is women aged 35-50. Basically, mothers of kids and teens trying out the hobby, many of whom give up after a year or two. And are constantly replaced by new incomer with fresh cash and bright eyes. The dedicated GW adult gamer - while popular at tournaments - is a small part of their sales base. Not least because such gamers often fish outside the GW pond. Almost all “new” gamers do not.
WD seems too busy. The battle reports, for example, have too many separate sections explaining what is happening, i preferred the older narratitive style. Perhaps it caters for a younger audience.
I bought some old WD and read them straight away, loved them. Just can not summon up the same enthusiasm for the new style. I will not mention my first ever WD lol.
@@MiniatureRealms I see a distinction between demonization and not being a fan. I think Arch is too profane, but is it ok to demonize him if I disagree with him? Isn't that the root of cancel culture and bigotry?
@wikingwideo This is not a debate I’m going to have with someone on the internet. I can’t even remember what was said fully, but I remember it as a throw away comment. The fact that you are so engaged in that, and nothing else in the 2hr podcast, suggests further that a discussion with you on the topic would be a waste of both of our time.
@@MiniatureRealms I thought you made some fair points about various things in the video, but I had no questions about them as they made a lot of sense.
An excellent listen chaps 👍 I went into the queue, went in the store, browsed and left. I'm going to wait for the PDFs (I have over 3000 PTS of Dark Elves) and then rely on mates who bought the rules to play 😉
Lack of support for "legacy" armies doesn't really bother me as I don't intend on ever playing in stores or tournaments and narrative play lends itself to community led amendments and mods. It is just a game after all and meant to be enjoyed 🙂👍 looking forward to the next one
Cheers dude. Definitely a smart move to wait for PDFs in your case, especially when it might only be the occasional game.
They’ve had to test the water a bit with WTOW plans and releases. Maybe they’ll rescind their ideas about legacy factions going forwards. Seems like a business decision as there was definitely balancing work put into that has turned out to be the legacy armies.
Regarding white dwarf, I had a sub as a gift for a few years, but I didn’t read it all and mostly I like them for the painting articles. Particularly as I wasn’t playing ant GW games. Mostly know I buy one for the painting articles. I think usually people’s favourite WD era is the one where they were most active. So probably mid to late 90’s would be my favourite period as I used to read those over to cover. The thing I do really miss from WD is the master class painting articles. Would love to see a return of those.
All in all another entertaining episode gents.
Cheers mate. You’re definitely right about people favourite era being when they were most active.
Thoroughly enjoyed the hobby hour which I watched in Thailand on my way to Chiang Rai.
I’m sure nostalgia must play a part but the best White Dwarfs for me were the older ones but to be fair I enjoyed all the older eras not just one of them the best. Back when Fantasy used to heavily feature and I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say the view of the current magazine is coloured by the fact we don’t play these games. I’ll want to collect it again once Old World is in it. I have a bit of interest in 40K minis and I like the aesthetic of a number of the AOS ranges because they can substitute for fantasy but I don’t actually play either of those games so I don’t get a lot out of the magazine when I do occasionally purchase it
On a side note I’m sorry Dan got so hard done by since he has access to Warhammer World and wanted to play there. In my usual home of Australia there isn’t much impact of their ill thought out decision but for those of us who collect/ed legacy factions does seem a bit rough to say the least. Glad I have an interest in a number of remaining factions that are considered core
Thank you, and I hope you’re enjoying your travels.
@@MiniatureRealms very much so. Great place for a holiday. Plenty to see and the food as you could expect is generally very good and of a high standard. Meant to be winter here too but certainly doesn’t feel chilly lol
@Svengar It’s definitely chilly here’s 😂
@@MiniatureRealms I bet it is. You guys invented cold weather 😂. It is about 30C here in the day but surprisingly it doesn’t feel hot…but then it is summer is AUS so it is cooler by comparison
I was really lucky to get everything I wanted except the stuff that didn’t go up, and the CE Lords of the Lance. I saved 1500$ for this launch over the past 9 months. I got both boxes, all four books, a Paladin on BSB. Grail Knights, Yoeman, Unfortunately the lady, BSB on warhorse, Paladin on foot, and the dice haven’t gone up for sale yet here. I already have a large Bret army I have been rebasing.
The Tomb Kings are new year, new army. I added a Necrosphynx, Settra, some Ushatbi. I have multiple sprues of Skeletons from the long ago times that I never built. And I think I have plenty of chariots as well.
I haven’t bought new GW sculpts since end times except for a beastmen army I had wanted for a while. I never stopped playing WHFB in all that time. I have 11 armies, and friends with multiple armies who love to play. So this is truly Christmas for us. Especially me, as a long time Bretonnia player, never getting love or a new model for 20 years.
I’ve been playing since 1993. Christ, im getting old.
Oh, and I am printing my own magic, magic items, and whatever else cards. Im also going to laminate them. I might even 3d print some tokens for USR’s. “Frenzy”, “Stubborn” and whatever I need, I can just put them on back of tray, maybe even modify a tray with a ledge in back to place the tokens on.
Sounds like you’re going to be in a fantastic place to move into the new edition, in many ways units of kept most of my old stuff, would have been lovely to be in a position of just having to rebase.
Definitely nostalgic for white dwarf. I was reading that in the early 90’s in the US and looked forward to it every month. I loved the painting and terrain articles, I loved seeing what was coming out next, the bat reps. I devoured every issue. Since the internet, I can get all of that content any time I want. So sad to say, I don’t even think about it anymore
Very understandable, and the same for many others I think.
My first WD was issue 15 in Oct/Nov 1979 and it covered D&D in the main but did range widely; every issue was a treat. I stopped in late 1983/early 1984 in my late teens but did resume when my sons started 40k in 2007 and they were thrilled by each issue in their early years. We still get it as it is always visually sumptuous.
That is one thing it’s always been good at, a great visual distraction.
Hoping for some articles in future White Dwarf covering the Old World. I have many of the early 2000’s and often refer back to them. Warhammer-vault is also a great archive for past editions.
I keep forgetting I’ve got access to the Warhammer Vault, though I found the reader was very slow to load each page.
I think we will definitely see something in White Dwarf, maybe Feb or March.
Morning from San Diego CA!
Good morning! 🙂
Me: old. 69. Only got into miniatures, buying, painting & playing two +- years ago.
Had some Ral Partha figures from last century due to doing some DnD. Also some m GHQ micro armour.
Fistful of Lead woke my inner Orc.
Thankfully I avoided things like Warhammer, 40K and all the big money eaters. You kept changing rules. Kept saying you can't use this but you can use this. I game the way I want to. Not the way somebody somewhere else tells me I have to.
Osprey rules and FfoL
..all I need.
Just want to be up front.
I find some of the stuff you do very interesting so that's why I watch.
@charleslatora5750 Cheers Charles. I agree completely, you absolutely should do things the way you want and play the rules you want to. I love GW games, but they do make them hard to love sometimes, but like you I play many other things as well.
Happy new year lads!
The dice pack is identical to the one in legions imperialis.
As are the whippy sticks and the templates.
I bet it was just "let's order the same package" to save some cash on production.
That’s a good shout, didn’t think of that. I suppose it’s also possible it’s just the wrong ones pictured and we do get both dice, but I think you’re probably correct.
Happy New Year
Another great chat, chaps!
Cheers dude
After 1 hour in a queue I got access to website but rulebook was already sold out... so I didn't buy anything. I will wait until stock comes back or maybe I will find something in my local hobby stores. As much I was excited about TOW, after Pre order day my excitement is reduced and I turned to my old minis waiting to be assembled and painted (like Necromunda). Cool podcast (like always) 👍
It’s so depressing it sold out so fast. I think there’s quite a few stores that will have limited stock available on the day, so if you’re close to a GW I’d definitely be outside ready for it to open.
I think Dan should do an Empire army like you suggest Stu, the general and his force could be from Stirland. They fall under the sway of vampirism after a vampire escaped from Hel Fenn and later ‘acquires’ the Empire general as a new thrall.
On the Artillery dice, you can just use a regular d6. Double the numbers 1-5 to get the right numeric value and the 6 is the misfire. Not ideal but works in a pinch!
I hope Dan goes for that option, he’d do such a great job of it. Good shout on the artillery dice.
Has Dan considered running those VC models as Tomb Kings? There is quite some overlap in units already, and doing "VC versions" of some more specific TK things - thinking Sphinx, snakeriders, giant - would be an interesting hobby challenge.
I like that idea, and suggested it to him as well. But I’ve not given it a huge amount of thought about how the theme would work with it. Could be fun though.
I love White Dwarf and really enjoy the current content, however the only thing that lets the current version down is the print quality, the old issues where much more punchy and vibrant.
Ah I didn’t even consider that, but now you mention it.
Those that levy that White Dwarf is no longer any good are probably those who are not actually reading it regularly.
I, like you both, grew up with White Dwarf as my main connective tissue to the hobby- long before the days of the internet and easily accessible information, it was my buoy to the hobby.
White Dwarf is absolutely a value and a worthwhile periodical. Sure, it’s been through some questionable phases in its time, but it’s back to being a resource of fiction, hobby, and gaming!
It’s motivating and inspiring and to me, that harkens back to when I was kid, first finding myself getting lost in this amazing hobby. When I didn’t have easy access to an FLG or Games Workshop store it was White Dwarf that fueled and preserved the Hobby for me. Even in periods of my life when I was no longer actively involved with the hobby, I would still pick up random White Dwarfs when I would see them to check back in and see where the Warhammer World was at in its evolution.
I think the biggest problem is the space that is occupies juxtaposed to the worldwide web of content creation and other outlets of on-line easy-access content.
It’s a tough slog for it; print media is always going to have a different battle against simply clicking on a link for content that doesn’t require or ask much of the viewer.
I am a bit biased as a self-professed book lover, so I will always champion print media; it’s incredibly important that we simply don’t absorb all of our knowledge and information via streaming media, via the same source that we receive so much information through, i.e. our phones!
I’ll step off my soapbox now :)
Always enjoy your content and was glad to see this discussion come up.
Cheers gents!
Thank you for such a well thought out and detailed comment, and I can’t say I’d disagree with any of it. 🙂
I've been picking it up monthly ever since the Bunker program launched, and I've been really pleased. The scenarios are fun, and there's usually at least one good story in each issue. There was a Red Gobbo story recently that made me actually give a crap about Da Revolushun as an in-universe faction in a way I'd not thought possible! It's nice to be able to unwind and unplug, and WD helps me get there.
Sad to see Dan so down on the vamps. Hopefully he pulls through and still does them, you don't need to listen to what games workshop considers "legal" I'm sure most events that aren't gw official (including ones I'll be running) won't require "tournament legal" factions
Oh completely agree, as does Dan really, it’s more about him being able to attend Warhammer World events, as it’s something he really likes doing.
Way behind on videos I like so just catching up now - great discussion on WD - it's a really interesting one, it WAS better when I was young despite being pretty much exactly the same now - so why? I think you touched upon a lot of the main issues but there was one thing that occurred to me while you were talking that I'd never really considered before. You briefly mentioned the internet and War-Com but I think it's influence might be far larger. When I was getting WD in the 90s, I used to read EVERYTHING in it, despite the fact that I was only playing the Fantasy games. I would read the articles for Epic, 40K, Battlefleet Gothic etc. Despite the fact that I had no intention of playing those games, and I would argue today that all of those articles were GREAT - despite the fact that they probably exactly as good as the ones in WD now. So what's the difference? Volume of content! Back in the 90s, that magazine was literally the only way of engaging with GW's content at home, not just official content from GW, but there was no form of independent content. Now, in the era of the internet, social media forums and in particular TH-cam, there is a massive and constant stream of content about every possible wargaming itch. There is now far too much SBG content that I like out there for me to consume - let alone SBG content that I don't like - let alone content for other systems! I simply don't need to read articles about other systems as I can't keep up with all of the available content for the one system I play! As such, I ultimately think that WD may well be as good as it ever was, but that it now faces an impossible task: it has to appeal to players of all its games to encourage as many people as possible to buy it, when every single one of them would probably prefer it if it just focussed on one system. It breaks my heart as the thrill of a new WD was such a formative part of my teenage years but these days I think they're just producing a great magazine for people who p[lay both AOS and 40k - the rest of us are better suited finding our content elsewhere sadly :-( Great video as always dudes! Damian
Cheers Damian. Yep you’re totally right, it’s so many factors, but the wide availability of alternatives Vs what at the time was the ONLY resource (out side of Wargames Illustrated/Dragon magazine etc, but they had little GW coverage of any really), is by far the major reason for it losing its ‘special’ connection with the reader.
I got in to the GW website about 1012 and in the end didn’t buy anything. I have a metal Beastmen army so I’ve decided to wait for their Arcane Journal later this year (September?). The Dark Elf PDF will come shortly and my 2001 White Dwarf City Guard army will march again this year; from memory Witch Elves don’t ask permission to charge and certainly don’t wait for invitations to attend battles😂
😂 I’m sure they don’t. Did you hear a September rumour or is that a guess for the Beastmen?
@@MiniatureRealmsPictures of dice suggest Dwarves and Orks in the early summer so I’m hoping that the Autumn will bring Beastmen and Wood-elves - no facts were used in the making of a September Beastmen release.
@johnkitchen2924 Solid reasoning
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I've started looking at some old issues of White Dwarf, and I'm not sure why but the new ones just... feel really hollow. They're not bad, but they don't have any of the charm or appeal that they had back in the early 2000s.
I can understand that, have a similar feeling myself, but I think nostalgia has a large effect on that.
The legacy announcement is a disgrace. These factions should be supported in terms of balance and GW events. It is a really poor business decision.
Completely agree
I hope a member of the board is watching some of this content with the realization “we are t selling more models because a business unit won’t get credit”
Let me explain your business model GW …. You make miniatures -> you drive demand by the models having rules …. If a mode has rules for different games, you will sell more models
Honestly, every time specialist games is involved they manage to fuck things up
I don’t think it has anything to do with specialist games per se, it’s the way the company as a whole interacts with that side of the business. Saying that, Kill Team, Warcry, Cursed City etc, I could go on, all the same issues and not specialist design studio. It’s just not them, it’s the capacity, forecasting, and so on and so forth.
I had a subscription to White Dwarf, I cancelled it when I received the first Warhammer Visions. It was truly appalling. I also wrote an actual letter to GW telling them about xactly what I thought.
It does seem reasonable again these days, but I don't have any interest in AoS, anc 40K gameplay has taken a direction I don't like. I can get what I want on the internet now.
Yep pretty much the same as my experience with it really, the internet is probably one of the biggest reasons.
I feel for folk whose armies or collections are unsupported by GW, either through slow rollout, or just dropped lists.
However, I would stress the point that this is because the whole GW model is not about existing, experienced gamers. Their biggest sales demographic in the UK is women aged 35-50. Basically, mothers of kids and teens trying out the hobby, many of whom give up after a year or two. And are constantly replaced by new incomer with fresh cash and bright eyes. The dedicated GW adult gamer - while popular at tournaments - is a small part of their sales base. Not least because such gamers often fish outside the GW pond. Almost all “new” gamers do not.
Yep absolutely
WD seems too busy. The battle reports, for example, have too many separate sections explaining what is happening, i preferred the older narratitive style. Perhaps it caters for a younger audience.
Yeah I wonder if it’s a ‘post TH-cam battle report’ style. I loved the old style with top down maps as well.
I bought some old WD and read them straight away, loved them. Just can not summon up the same enthusiasm for the new style. I will not mention my first ever WD lol.
Why is he demonizing Arch? Isn't not considering opposing views (even if you still disagree with them in the end) a form of narrow mindedness?
If you’re a fan of Arch then there’s probably not a lot of point explaining why people might not be.
@@MiniatureRealms I see a distinction between demonization and not being a fan. I think Arch is too profane, but is it ok to demonize him if I disagree with him? Isn't that the root of cancel culture and bigotry?
@wikingwideo This is not a debate I’m going to have with someone on the internet. I can’t even remember what was said fully, but I remember it as a throw away comment. The fact that you are so engaged in that, and nothing else in the 2hr podcast, suggests further that a discussion with you on the topic would be a waste of both of our time.
@@MiniatureRealms I thought you made some fair points about various things in the video, but I had no questions about them as they made a lot of sense.