There are so many layers to this. They punished his whole crew with him. They didnt give any other option like someone else singing the sond, a playback or anything. Also they fist released only, that there was an incident with him and a female crewmember. Of cause people assume the worst. Then as more and more information released we suddenly realised that he didnt even do anything major. They also purged him kompletely from the app and the contest. Its a real shitshow and really creepy. Not to mention that the juryvotes were affected because the couldnt reconsider after they disqualified the netherlands.
A lot of people who voted only see the songs first time in the final show. I agree if you just listen to the audio version only, Croatia song might be the winner. But on the night, Nemo and the visual effect had the biggest impact that got him the win. I don't see any controversies here. As for Israel's tele vote, people who against their action in Gaza cannot vote them down, so I wouldn't take it as a surprise
With the televoting i heard about lots of people voting without watching to make their statement, pure political voting, on Israel, or on an country with odds to beat Israel
Joost understood what Eurovision should be. I know he would've done well. It's so sad that the entire competition was overshadowed by Israel's inclusion. The organisers went to such lengths to keep that act there and protect them. They muted booing, they started trying to censor acts saying things like "Peace and love-" just incase they elaborated saying something pro-palestine. They changed the voting system which definately also worked in Israel's favor. All the acts seemed like they were being bullied behind the scenes. Highly dissapointing. I'm not religious so acts using that imagery doesn't bother me so much.. Euro-pop has always been tied heavily with the queer and alt scene and always will be. Joost Klein is also a part of that community. Nemo won fairly. All bookies predicted they'd be in the top 5.
That argument doesn't make sense. Juries openly admitted to going against Eurovision protocol and decided not to give Israel any points. This is why jury vote for Israel was much lower than fan vote. Prior joost disqualification, Croatia was favourite to win it, followed by Israel. I know this because I'm a gambler myself. You lot are crying for joost, when you don't even know what he did. His song sucked anyways. Croatia should have won, or even Israel, but juries hijacked the votes, giving them mostly to Switzerland, and established a record for jury votes. This is because the queer/non binary scene is favoured now. These are the politics Eurovision usually favours.
An new rumor is that they gave him the DQ to distract from other things, there where lots of problems within the deleagtion bubble, and multiple countries filed official complaints, inculding NL before the DQ was known. The rumor is that the delegation from Israel was causing an unsaf envourment, and said delegation did also post multiple things on their socials mocking others, or even harrasing others. Another fishy thing is that the biggest sponsor is from Israel, so the EBU might not be able to do anything out of fear of the sponsor leaving. It got so bad that multiple countries did threaten with pulling out, which is why there was an crisis meeting. The rumor here is that the EBU said that they would just use the semi final footage
This Eurovision in particular was a mess, First of all EBU banning Palestinian flags and messages was a very bad move. Because it did absolutely nothing but make everyone madder. It also influenced a lot of protests near the Malmo Arena I don't know if it's shown in the live save of the grand final but an amazing part of Kaleen's performance which was a dance break was lagged out and it cut to a part after it, not to mention that it probably influenced the televote. Israel had to change the song twice, it was actually called October Rain first and I can't even make this up, they're not even hiding it. Nemo had to smuggle in the nonbinary flag. Wtf EBU. And then EBU proudly posted a photo of him holding like they didn't let him have it. If EBU wants to support LGBTQ+ then they failed miserably. In the second semifinal every song after Spain had problems with sound (it was either too quiet or the right ear was totally messed up to the point I thought its my headphones) San Marino has microphone problems or Megara just forgot how to sing randomly which is relatable Israeli Reporters were harassing artists especially, Joost, Marina and Bambie Thug. Bambie even reported them to the EBU and guess what happened, nothing. Anti-Booing Technology was used besides the times where it wasn't because in the final you could hear loud and clear booing when Israel got points or Martin showed up to say that they "counted" the votes. A lot of people that were supposed to give out points (for example Alessandra which was in Eurovision last year didn't want to give out points for Norway, Kaarija and the country of Netherlands resigned from giving out points too) Olly Alexander getting 0 points is almost impossible, like how did he not get at least a single point. Ireland's performance had a lot of pagan references (Bambie even wore ogham on her face - which it read ceasefire but she had to change it because I guess someone snitched, so they changed it to crown the witch), It was also about a toxic relationship and taking revenge on that person, that's why there were very timid moments which I like to interpret as someone love bombing. Also the thorn crown is a pagan symbol too. No one's really mocking Christianity, if someone is it's those people that were praying while the performance played because for me it just looks like they're making fun of both of the beliefs. Because you cannot tell me a real person actually is so scared of it they need to pray to their deity for protection. Anyways I definitely won't be watching the next Eurovision unless they ban Israel and maybe fix their technical problems. Eurovision 2024 gets a measly rating of 4/10 and that's only because almost all songs were amazing
The only reason why Australia is allowed to take part is because apparently there are a LOT of European expats living in Europe who have watched Eurovision there since whenever it was possible. So Australia like stands out in regards of amount of people outside of Europe that can watch and do watch Eurovision. I think that's why they are allowed to participate.
okay your points stand but no need to be hateful to Nemo. and mocking christianity/any other religion is not a big deal, get over it. It's literally mythology people can use to reference with symbols like that
Ya, but when the journalist asked Joost "do you think that your song can unite us all ?", Joost said very ironically, with sarcasm in his voice: "That is what you should ask EBU". He was very disrespectfull to EBU. He was mocking EBU because they let Israel perform. So, he was actually challenging EBU very arrogantly. Then, after the incident with the camerawoman happened, they just added it to the list of his mistakes. (Don't forget he also provoked Israel with that question "Why not?" at the press) He, as a contestant, was not supposed to undermine the credibility of EBU. He just crossed the line.
There's not joostice, only justice. It happened in Sweden, top 5 democracy index. Stay cool and happy for Nemo, it was a well deserved victory, Joost would have been from 2nd to 24, it doesn't change anything
If Joost had competed, Croatia would have won. "The Code" and "Europapa" has a pretty significant overlap in the fandom (nothing wrong with that, a lot of people like BOTH songs - including the jurors), so the 12 point awards that went to Nemo would have been divided between "The Code" and "Europapa," knocking "The Code" below the very small point threshold between 1st and 2nd.
Irish here. No idea a young person would be so staunchly Christian but still I don't think it was right to put the crown of thorns on Nemo, it was for themself (Bambie).
@@aylinasghary2959 I think it was meant to be a kind act following the crown the witch meme. In theory it’s wholesome for the witch to crown the winner but it’s a potentially controversial crown that should’ve maybe have been reconsidered.
There are so many layers to this. They punished his whole crew with him. They didnt give any other option like someone else singing the sond, a playback or anything. Also they fist released only, that there was an incident with him and a female crewmember. Of cause people assume the worst. Then as more and more information released we suddenly realised that he didnt even do anything major. They also purged him kompletely from the app and the contest. Its a real shitshow and really creepy. Not to mention that the juryvotes were affected because the couldnt reconsider after they disqualified the netherlands.
They could've broadcast the semifinals act instead, but they just ignorant..
JOOSTice
you are absolutely right.
#FREEJUSTKLEINE
#JOOSTICE
he have win when he put he's leg at the scene.
it's strange that Joost was disqualified as everyone is innocent until guilt is proven. He most likely would have won.
We wil never now , 😢
FOR EVER EUROPAPA !!!
Thank you for your reaction.
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FREEJOOST!!!
The televote needs to be investigated.
nice to see not only dutchies or belgians speakin on this unjustice
Croatia won the televote (337+210 from the juries), Israel was second (323+52).
Spot on again!!
A lot of people who voted only see the songs first time in the final show. I agree if you just listen to the audio version only, Croatia song might be the winner. But on the night, Nemo and the visual effect had the biggest impact that got him the win. I don't see any controversies here. As for Israel's tele vote, people who against their action in Gaza cannot vote them down, so I wouldn't take it as a surprise
Thank you for this, just what i needed. It's time for a Nexit to leave Eurovison.
Your country was also amazing, Croatia was my vote as a Dutchman.
With the televoting i heard about lots of people voting without watching to make their statement, pure political voting, on Israel, or on an country with odds to beat Israel
Joost understood what Eurovision should be. I know he would've done well. It's so sad that the entire competition was overshadowed by Israel's inclusion. The organisers went to such lengths to keep that act there and protect them. They muted booing, they started trying to censor acts saying things like "Peace and love-" just incase they elaborated saying something pro-palestine. They changed the voting system which definately also worked in Israel's favor. All the acts seemed like they were being bullied behind the scenes. Highly dissapointing.
I'm not religious so acts using that imagery doesn't bother me so much.. Euro-pop has always been tied heavily with the queer and alt scene and always will be. Joost Klein is also a part of that community.
Nemo won fairly. All bookies predicted they'd be in the top 5.
Good. Pro-Palestine = Pro-Hamas. They wanted him gone because they wanted an enby to win.
That argument doesn't make sense. Juries openly admitted to going against Eurovision protocol and decided not to give Israel any points. This is why jury vote for Israel was much lower than fan vote. Prior joost disqualification, Croatia was favourite to win it, followed by Israel. I know this because I'm a gambler myself. You lot are crying for joost, when you don't even know what he did. His song sucked anyways. Croatia should have won, or even Israel, but juries hijacked the votes, giving them mostly to Switzerland, and established a record for jury votes. This is because the queer/non binary scene is favoured now. These are the politics Eurovision usually favours.
@@davidhe7935just your opinion…
@@davidhe7935just your opinion luckily.Joost did not hit the wonan who had been harassing him,that we know
thats exactly my thought when i watched his clip second time, and the reason for his removal isnt even that transperent, some absurd shit
The ending: 😂😂😂😂😂
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷was top Joost klein is stil n 1❤❤❤❤❤❤
U are so right man
An new rumor is that they gave him the DQ to distract from other things, there where lots of problems within the deleagtion bubble, and multiple countries filed official complaints, inculding NL before the DQ was known. The rumor is that the delegation from Israel was causing an unsaf envourment, and said delegation did also post multiple things on their socials mocking others, or even harrasing others. Another fishy thing is that the biggest sponsor is from Israel, so the EBU might not be able to do anything out of fear of the sponsor leaving.
It got so bad that multiple countries did threaten with pulling out, which is why there was an crisis meeting. The rumor here is that the EBU said that they would just use the semi final footage
Thank you❤❤❤❤😂
and hear
This Eurovision in particular was a mess,
First of all EBU banning Palestinian flags and messages was a very bad move. Because it did absolutely nothing but make everyone madder. It also influenced a lot of protests near the Malmo Arena
I don't know if it's shown in the live save of the grand final but an amazing part of Kaleen's performance which was a dance break was lagged out and it cut to a part after it, not to mention that it probably influenced the televote.
Israel had to change the song twice, it was actually called October Rain first and I can't even make this up, they're not even hiding it.
Nemo had to smuggle in the nonbinary flag. Wtf EBU. And then EBU proudly posted a photo of him holding like they didn't let him have it. If EBU wants to support LGBTQ+ then they failed miserably.
In the second semifinal every song after Spain had problems with sound (it was either too quiet or the right ear was totally messed up to the point I thought its my headphones)
San Marino has microphone problems or Megara just forgot how to sing randomly which is relatable
Israeli Reporters were harassing artists especially, Joost, Marina and Bambie Thug. Bambie even reported them to the EBU and guess what happened, nothing.
Anti-Booing Technology was used besides the times where it wasn't because in the final you could hear loud and clear booing when Israel got points or Martin showed up to say that they "counted" the votes.
A lot of people that were supposed to give out points (for example Alessandra which was in Eurovision last year didn't want to give out points for Norway, Kaarija and the country of Netherlands resigned from giving out points too)
Olly Alexander getting 0 points is almost impossible, like how did he not get at least a single point.
Ireland's performance had a lot of pagan references (Bambie even wore ogham on her face - which it read ceasefire but she had to change it because I guess someone snitched, so they changed it to crown the witch), It was also about a toxic relationship and taking revenge on that person, that's why there were very timid moments which I like to interpret as someone love bombing. Also the thorn crown is a pagan symbol too. No one's really mocking Christianity, if someone is it's those people that were praying while the performance played because for me it just looks like they're making fun of both of the beliefs. Because you cannot tell me a real person actually is so scared of it they need to pray to their deity for protection.
Anyways I definitely won't be watching the next Eurovision unless they ban Israel and maybe fix their technical problems. Eurovision 2024 gets a measly rating of 4/10 and that's only because almost all songs were amazing
The only reason why Australia is allowed to take part is because apparently there are a LOT of European expats living in Europe who have watched Eurovision there since whenever it was possible. So Australia like stands out in regards of amount of people outside of Europe that can watch and do watch Eurovision. I think that's why they are allowed to participate.
The video is up online allegedly showing the Isreali songwritter filming him without permission laughting at him. Now youtibe wont let me share
okay your points stand but no need to be hateful to Nemo. and mocking christianity/any other religion is not a big deal, get over it. It's literally mythology people can use to reference with symbols like that
Ya, but when the journalist asked Joost "do you think that your song can unite us all ?", Joost said very ironically, with sarcasm in his voice: "That is what you should ask EBU". He was very disrespectfull to EBU. He was mocking EBU because they let Israel perform.
So, he was actually challenging EBU very arrogantly.
Then, after the incident with the camerawoman happened, they just added it to the list of his mistakes.
(Don't forget he also provoked Israel with that question "Why not?" at the press)
He, as a contestant, was not supposed to undermine the credibility of EBU. He just crossed the line.
There's not joostice, only justice. It happened in Sweden, top 5 democracy index. Stay cool and happy for Nemo, it was a well deserved victory, Joost would have been from 2nd to 24, it doesn't change anything
I think Croatia deserved the win more than Switzerland but ok
Joost could definitely have beaten Nemo, especially since he finished higher in the semi-final.
I also got rigged feelings
If Joost had competed, Croatia would have won. "The Code" and "Europapa" has a pretty significant overlap in the fandom (nothing wrong with that, a lot of people like BOTH songs - including the jurors), so the 12 point awards that went to Nemo would have been divided between "The Code" and "Europapa," knocking "The Code" below the very small point threshold between 1st and 2nd.
Joost ❤❤❤
Omg the end; I pee my pants😅 Thank you thank you❤ you are SO RIGHT😂😂😂
This is my favourite comment on the channel❤️😂
Irish here. No idea a young person would be so staunchly Christian but still I don't think it was right to put the crown of thorns on Nemo, it was for themself (Bambie).
But Bambie gave it as a gift from one nonbinary person to another kind of so it was meant to be a kind act at least?
@@aylinasghary2959 I think it was meant to be a kind act following the crown the witch meme. In theory it’s wholesome for the witch to crown the winner but it’s a potentially controversial crown that should’ve maybe have been reconsidered.
@@GribGFX well yeah but people shouldn't take it so seriously ig is what I mean. they were just being nice to each other and having fun 🤷♂
Joost heeft zich op meerdere manieren misdragen. Terechte uitsluiting.
Hjb mongool🖕🏻
Joost attacked a staff member and was mean to other singers. Stop crying its a fully deserved disqualification
Joost has misbehaved in several ways. Justified exclusion.
Don't watch the show again then if you don't like it. He made a "kill you" threat to someone, and fairly kicked out. He's a disgrace to his parents.
So you where there?
@@ufonouten3601 now there is reports from the police that he punched a woman. Just read the news.
@@georgechristou7982 Police did not give a statement so far.
no he didn’t. someone made fun of his dead parents and harassed him with cameras, he did NOTHING but brush past them. you are a disgrace to humanity.
@@georgechristou7982 no one punched anyone