9:20 That's an USB type C plug. It actually makes it more compatible. Just search for USB type C and not something like thinkpad e580 plug / docking station...
Thanks! Yes, I worked this out soon afterwards when I realised the Lenovo docking station was USB-C. A little embarrassing and shows that it’s been a while since I’ve bought a new PC, and that I should stick to music instead of tech! 😁 Ok the plus side, I picked up a good deal on a genuine Lenovo USB-C docking station, so I’ll have to do an update video to correct this and test out he docking station.
Thanks Anthony. Yeah, I figure there are plenty of people that can do all the benchmarking and tests, but when I'm buying something I want to know "will it work the way it says it will, reliably, and not make me want to throw it out the nearest window" 😄
You can swap the Cntrl and Fn keys (either in bios or the lenovo software). Also, USB type C is awesome. Get a USB C doc which has PD (so you can charge the laptop while you've got a dock).
Thanks so much for these tips. I just picked up a USB-C dock actually once I figured out what it was. 😄 And I really must do that change to the keyboard as I wasn’t aware of that until I started getting feedback here. Love the internet for this reason!!
Great stuff. It’s a really good machine. And a couple of corrections that I need to include in part 3. There are 2xUSB3 and 1xUSB2 - I think I said 3xUSB3. And speaking of USB, the charger uses USB-C, not a proprietary format. Shows how long since I’ve had a new laptop that I didn’t recognise the USB-C port!
Nice one! Yes, however I think as soon as folks saw a “paid placement sponsored by Lenovo” the credibility of what I say here might take a dive! Just happy that I can help folks like you and me get a closer look at real world use before they buy. Oh and the audio driver got an update and sounds much better now too. Still a laptop speaker but it has improved he volume and bass response. I’ll have to record another update.
Hey did you buy ThinkPad e580, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
Thanks so much for watching and for your feedback. And yes, you can tell I haven’t had a new laptop for a long time that I didn’t recognise the USB-C port! It wasn’t until I started looking at docking stations a few days ago and realised that the compatible ones were USB-C that the penny dropped! I’m pinning your comment so hopefully others will see this until I record part three where I will definitely throw in a correction to this!
Yes, very cool! And here's one that does almost everything. www.theverge.com/this-is-my-next/2018/6/1/17413728/the-best-usb-c-hub-for-laptops-macbook-pro Just putting it in here in case anybody else stumbles upon your video. Which was great, thanks. I just bought an E580 for a client. It looks great.
Nice! Just the SD slot alone would be useful as I need to carry a separate adapter for that when I’m on the go. Definitely need to consider something like this!
Only real and good review on the E580 on youtube till now. BTW bought it a week ago, expecting it one of these days. Most laptop speakers are very poor. If I want a better sound I just use my old Logitech Z305 Clip-On USB Laptop Speaker (like a very handy, portable mini soundbar on your laptop).
Thanks for the kind words, and the great tip! Wasn't aware of the Z305 but will definitely have to check it out! I'm usually on headphones or through an audio interface anyway, but it would be nice to have some slightly better sound for general use.
Unfortunately, it seems the Z305 has been discontinued. (Logitech also has gone on Bluetooth route) You will have to do some research on Laptop soundbar speakers.
There is now finally the Ryzen variant of this notebook avaible. The E585 brings you the option for those new, awesome Ryzen CPUs. The rest of the options is basically the same.
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It's probably too late since you already got used to it, but you can easily switch the Ctrl and Fn key in the BIOS.
Thanks! Yes, someone else mentioned this and I think o need to explore this option, as while it’s okay, I’m still struggling when I need to switch between my desktop and laptop computers. I will do some Googling to work out how to do this, or if you have a link to instructions feel free to throw it my way. Really appreciate the tip too! Thank you.
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It's actually pretty easy, I'm just going to give you some quick instructions (assumming you never changed something in the BIOS): 1. From Windows, restart your notebook. Entering the BIOS after a regular shutdown won't work, because the respective menu is skipped for a faster boot time. 2. When the Lenovo Logo shows up on boot, press Enter. The notebook will beep and show you a few options, one of which is to "Press F1 to enter the BIOS Setup Utility", which you do. 3. Congratulations, you successfully entered the BIOS Setup menu! It can be a bit overwhelming on first glance, but it's not that bad. The mouse won't work, you have to navigate it by using the arrow keys, Enter and Esc. Press the right arrow key to get to the "Config" tab (at the top of the screen). Here you select the "Keyboard/Mouse" menu item and press Enter. 4. In the "Keyboard/Mouse" options, you can change the "Fn and Ctrl Key swap" option by selecting it and pressing Enter. 5. (optional) I prefer to have the F1-F12 keys perform their standard actions by default and pressing, for example, Fn+F1 to mute the notebook. To switch to this behavior, you can enable the "F1-F12 as Primary Function" option. 6. To save your changes, press F10, then Enter. The system will reboot and the functions of the Fn and Ctrl keys are now switched.
Awesome!! I'll definitely be giving this a go and might even make a video for other folks like me who had no idea you could do this! Really appreciate you taking the time to provide this feedback. Pete.
Yes, that was a bit of a gaff on my behalf. Shows how long since I’ve used a new laptop!! I corrected myself in subsequent videos and even picked up the Lenovo USB-C Dock which is awesome. th-cam.com/video/cWIIq0-zvSo/w-d-xo.html
As a pro laptop, you sometimes use it in public while working on confidential stuff so not being able To see what’s going on the screen from thé side is a good thing from my pov
Sure thing! There are screen cover devices that can actually focus the viewing angle too. I’m lucky enough that my work is rarely confidential but for someone needing privacy,, a wide viewing angle may indeed be a drawback not an advantage.
Cheers! Tech should be a bit of fun I think. About to upgrade the RAM in this sucker... might be a little less fun in that one as the access to the memory looks tricky. 😄
@@PeteJohnsMusic Even though I dont know much about Thinkpads, I have been using them in my company for past 8 years from T40 to T450 now. One of the best series of laptops stopped at T430 and T530 IMO. But now since the new thinkpads have become more style than substance, I am planning to move to gaming laptops like G5 and Acer Asprire 7. Pls let me know if you have some insights into which is is better :-)
Alas, I’m more focused on music so only really review what I use. I have used Acers before I picked up the Lenovo and always found them solid; though a little overloaded with bloatware.
Anyone can help me ,, which is better to choose (e-480 or e-590) for programming and youtube watching ,, both have core i5 8250U ,, 4 gb ram ,, 1T hdd ,, and i will upgrade it to a 8 gb ram and a 120 gb ssd ,, i like small sizes more than bigger one ,, and the 400 series are 14” and the 500 series are 15” ,, and can anyone tell me in general which series is better 400 or 500 😁🙌 please help me before i buy this 🤗
Yep, sure is! Shows how ignorant I was of newer connection types back then! I did correct this in future videos and actually reviewed the Lenovo USB-C Dock. th-cam.com/video/cWIIq0-zvSo/w-d-xo.html
Im amout to buy a second hand lenovo e580 15 7th gen. Tho it doesnt have a fingerprint scanner. Does it mean its fake? All post i've seen on fb market place are the same (no finger print scanner) And im thinking it might be fake models from the same supplier. Need help.
How do you do it with the battery? Do you load it while youre making music or do you remove the battery before working? And is there a possibility to remove the battery?
Funnily enough, the battery has never actually gone flat while I’ve been out and about, so I’m saying it’s a lot! I don’t use it unplugged all day, but I’ve got at least around 4 hours out of it with light use. Lasts longer than my iPhone! 😊
Hi Pete thanks for sharing your thoughts. How hot does it get usually under moderate load (ie Reaper with 10+ plugins running)? I am planning on getting the i5 version for daily productivity tasks and some music production. Cheers
Hey Kevin. So far it’s been really good in terms of heat - the fans do a good job so the trade off is probably the additional noise I mention in the video. That being said it’s always on a desk with plenty of clearance all around, so haven’t tried the lap test! 🙂
Hey did you buy this ThinkPad e580 model, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
@@PeteJohnsMusic Still a great overview buddy, I'm using Thinkpad L13 yoga and was thinking of something different to play around with and upgrade to play WOT Blitz
I’ve also heard others state this as well, though I haven’t come across this unless there’s a lot of strain on the CPU and video card, like rendering HD video or 3D games. For my daily use and even video editing, it stays pretty cool and quiet.
Excellent video... Would you recommend it for running multiple VMs ?? Is it too heavy... How is the wifi connectivity? I read some mixed reviews about the wifi adaptor being a little slow...
Hi there. Thanks for watching and for your comments. I haven’t run any VMs on it at this stage but with the 8th Gen i7 and 16gb RAM I think it would do just fine. Weight is about average for a 15”. I carry it on my backpack without any issues but it is definitely not super lightweight like an ultra book - it I was after the extra performance and storage. Wifi has been fine. I only have a reasonably slow ADSL2 internet connection however so haven’t really tested it on a very high speed network. Hope this helps!
Personally think the AMD variant e585 seems super interesting, basically same notebook, just a different mb/cpu added. Those 2500u offer quite a lot performance at a small price.
Thanks for the extra info. I did consider an AMD processor but have had better experiences with Intel in the past. As you say, definitely good value though!
Hey Pete, I've been reading some reviews about this notebook and the main issue that people brought up was that it heats a lot. What are your thoughts about that aspect? did you notice the heating under heavy load?
Hey Alex. I haven’t noticed any excessive heat to be honest. As I mentioned in one of the videos, the fan is a little loud under heavy load when running a game or rendering a large video file but haven’t noticed he temperature issue. That being said, I always use it on a hard, flat surface. I suggest if it was in your lap or a soft surface where the ventilation on the base didn’t have clearance it may get a little hotter. Perhaps the base models with the i5 and 8GB RAM do get slightly hotter under load also due to he lower specs?
Thanks Pete and B2359 for the replies. I eventually bought the Laptop last month with the i7 version and RX 550 GPU and yes, it gets noticeably hot. I noticed it about 1 minute after turning it on for the first time. I was actually shocked that such heat waves are coming up from the keyboard when I first touched it to type my windows username. Perhaps the i5 version does not heat that much, I am not sure. It still wasn't a deal breaker for me because I either use it when I'm working abroad and then I connect an external keyboard, or I just take it with me to meetings where I don't have to use the keyboard for that long. But I would definitely recommend others to stay away if they are planning to work with it daily. Besides that issue, the laptop is amazing for the price, so It's really disappointing, especially when it comes to Lenovo and ThinkPads specifically,
Thanks for the update. That is very strange as it’s something I just haven’t noticed. I guess I don’t do a lot of solid typing so perhaps I just don’t notice, but I’ve never found it particularly hot to the touch. Good to know and to pass on though for sure.
Pete Johns, Well, the i5 heats less than the i7. Additionally, mine has an RX 550 as graphics card which heats much more than an integrated one. I just returned from a long meeting and the laptop's battery barely lasted for barely 2.5 hours. I wasn't using it "lightly" but I also didn't do anything that should have made the GPU work too hard, or anything that caused the CPU to reach 100% at all times, so 2.5 hours at medium use is another big disappointment.
I just bought it today and found a strange issue. When you plug in and plug out the charger to/from laptop, screen goes black for 2 to 3 seconds. is it normal? does it happen to your E480 too? its completely annoying.
I really hadn’t noticed that to be honest but just tested it and you’re right, though mine is probably one second. I imagine this is because the power connection is the USB-C port which can actually also be used to connect other devices, including monitors. So Windows 10 is checking to see if it needs to change the video output. Not sure if this is the case in all laptops hat use the USB-C for charging but I imagine it probably is.
Nikhil Shah 14 hours ago (edited) I found out the solution. If anyone requires, do following, Go to Intel's "Graphic Options", then Power, then select Power Source as Battery. Then disable Display Refresh Rate Switching option. Now flickering won't happen.
Hello, can you please tell me more about the heat management in your latop. Some says it gets heat a lot. is it true for your laptop too. Is there any throttling under midium load...
Hey there. I haven’t actually used Ableton personally so can’t give you a definitive answer, but from what I’ve heard about it, the i5 should definitely work for you. I would also suggest you get as much RAM as possible.
Hi Pete , Thank you for your time its a great help. I been searching info about this laptop and watch your video before i bought it. Now i am looking for info about maximum ram capacity of this particular laptop. I bought the same one (20KS005BTX) sales company listed as it is 16gb Ram however i see few youtube videos and its upgradeble to 32 gb I am little confused, I watch your memory upgrade video earlier, How can i find out what is the max ram capacity of this particular laptop İ couldnt find it on list of "system info". I dont want to order wrong size of ram. mine came with 8gb if i can effort i will buy 2x 16gb and use this 8gb on my sisters lenovo. If max ram capacity is 16 gb then i will order another 8gb.
Tamer Demirbilek hi there my friend. There’s a great website form Crucial Memory that will help you identify exactly what RAM your laptop needs AND the maximum capacity. Just go here and enter the model number of your laptop - www.crucial.com/ It’s how I found that my laptop had two slots, each of which could support a 16gb stick of RAM.
Hi Pete: I intend to use it to edit photo as well, would the screen color changes (brighter or darker) if the screen angle is changed slightly, ie tiled 5 - 10 degree back, would the image appears brighter/darker. The Lenovo T series and Yoga are really go such that the brightness doesn't change so no distortion. thanks
Hey there. So I don’t do any photo editing myself so far from an expert. The screen doesn’t have the best range of viewing angles so may not be ideal if you were planning on using it any other way than directly in front.
The viewing angles of this screen are incredible for an LCD display. 5-10 degrees will be barely noticeable. Just keep the screen nice and clean and I haven't had any issues.
I have this or don’t plug or unplug the power very often so it doesn’t bug me. Someone else did comment on one of my other videos about this so I think there is a fix for this? Sorry I can’t be more helpful.
This can happen. This machine has two different video cards. Based on your power settings, it's probably switching between them when going from AC to battery operation.
It does have a 2gb dedicated Radeon graphics chip however it is not exactly a powerhouse when it comes to 3D gaming. It would probably do okay but not in the league of an actual gaming laptop.
hi sir i have thinkpad e580 i want to install M.2 PCIe VNMe 256 .Kindly you suggest me which one use (m.2 pcie nvme )Becuse on net too much people face problem with this because compatible issue.I m very thank full you if you will be help me thanks a lot
Yep. Hopefully I made it clear that my purpose isn’t gaming? Definitely not a laptop anyone should consider for playing games. It can run The Sims and Roblox which is all my kids care about. 🙂
@@PeteJohnsMusic yeah I didn't get it for gaming was wondering if it was capable of any at all. This laptop is great but the CPU configuration is kinda bad. Trades too much performance for a not so respectable increase battery life. Overall a good buy for business oriented people as long as it is on sale/good price. otherwise with the money there are better choices. thanks for the review tho
@@profa6479 @Prof A I am also looking for a battery with better battery life, though would be great to have similar specs to the E580. Have you bought a laptop? Which, did you finally opt for?
Hey there. I just went to the AMD website (www.amd.com) and clicked through to detect and download the latest drivers so that’s what I would suggest you do.
Hey there. I haven’t played that game on this machine. The only gaming it tends to get is when my kids are playing Roblox or The Sims, which it doesn’t fine with. 😊
Any reason as to why you didn't consider a used macbook that would go up to around the same price as your E580, Pete? I figured it would be nice to use a mac since you do a lot of production with garageband.
Really good question Jake and something that I definitely considered. The main reason I didn't is that I'm so familiar with Windows for all my audio and video production in Reaper and Premiere Pro on the PC. Now, you could very correctly point out that both of these applications are available on Mac, however I wasn't keen to spend the time learning the small differences if it was going to put any of my creating on hold. Hopefully I will one day get out of this comfort zone I seem to be in with Windows PCs! The other issue was getting something powerful enough in my budget. To get similar specs to this machine in a MacBook I would have spend 2-3x as much and was concerned that things like HD video editing and encoding would be too slow. Again though, really good question and something I probably should have addressed in the videos!
Hey there. I cover these questions I’m subsequent videos in the series. In my experience, the heat and noise hasn’t been a significant issue, however I have definitely had reports from others that this has been a problem. th-cam.com/play/PLc8Xg_23Wa56qFWUpVmUyuCRYumlXiJ1S.html
Hey there. I believe there is a backlit keyboard option available but I don’t have it. I haven’t gone in to the boot menu for a while so can’t remember this. Maybe enter, F1 or space bar? Hopefully someone else can chime in.
Hey there. It has a decent processor, screen and graphics card, but is not really designed as a gaming laptop. It owuld be fine, but there are probably better options.
Thanks for your feedback. I tend to get anywhere from 4 up to 8 hours depending on what I’m running. The battery life stated on the manufacturer specs always seems to be quite overstated so I take that with a grain of salt.
Hey there. I haven’t actually tried it st this stage, it I imagine with an i7 professor and 16gb of RAM there would be ample resources to run a virtual machine.
I have tried running virtual machines. Couldn't be more perfect. Just get 16GB of RAM (DDR4!) and the i7-8550U and yes, ist perfect. Don't expect too much from the actual Virtual Host though. i.e. Virtualbox performance is pretty bad as is. Don't expect to play games on a VirtualBox VM no matter what host computer you're playing on. In short, yes.
I have the i7 version. You can take a look at more details in my other videos about this laptop here - th-cam.com/play/PLc8Xg_23Wa56qFWUpVmUyuCRYumlXiJ1S.html
Pete Johns thank you again. Just finished this first video, will check out the next two you sent. I actually pulled the trigger since Lenovo was having a Black Friday sale. Wish I saw your videos first! Since I didn’t NotebookCheck gave it a good review which swayed me, but you’re giving me a good real world idea. Thank you!
Nice one. Spoiler alert - I really like mine still. For the price, you get amazing specs and it runs well. Speakers are not amazing, and can noise is a little louder than other laptops, but in terms of value and reliability, I’m still a happy camper.
3 month update video available now - th-cam.com/video/JYNvWhrHhuI/w-d-xo.html
This is the link to the 1 month update :P haha
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9:20 That's an USB type C plug. It actually makes it more compatible. Just search for USB type C and not something like thinkpad e580 plug / docking station...
Thanks! Yes, I worked this out soon afterwards when I realised the Lenovo docking station was USB-C. A little embarrassing and shows that it’s been a while since I’ve bought a new PC, and that I should stick to music instead of tech! 😁
Ok the plus side, I picked up a good deal on a genuine Lenovo USB-C docking station, so I’ll have to do an update video to correct this and test out he docking station.
And and thanks for taking the time to watch AND to help this old man to understand these new fangled ports!!
Pete Johns I really would like to watch a video about your new setup with the e580 and the usb type c Docking station 👍
Love the take, Pete! Loved the “normal dude” saying! Keep up the good work buddy!
Thanks Anthony. Yeah, I figure there are plenty of people that can do all the benchmarking and tests, but when I'm buying something I want to know "will it work the way it says it will, reliably, and not make me want to throw it out the nearest window" 😄
You can swap the Cntrl and Fn keys (either in bios or the lenovo software). Also, USB type C is awesome. Get a USB C doc which has PD (so you can charge the laptop while you've got a dock).
Thanks so much for these tips. I just picked up a USB-C dock actually once I figured out what it was. 😄
And I really must do that change to the keyboard as I wasn’t aware of that until I started getting feedback here. Love the internet for this reason!!
You can change Fn and Ctrl keys in the BIOS!
Thanks Alex! Yes, I’m excited to give this a try!
No, but they can be swapped using the Lenovo Vantage software that ships with it.
Superb I've ordered one already but reassuring to watch this review.
Good tip on getting the card and dongle as I'll need one!
Great stuff. It’s a really good machine. And a couple of corrections that I need to include in part 3. There are 2xUSB3 and 1xUSB2 - I think I said 3xUSB3.
And speaking of USB, the charger uses USB-C, not a proprietary format. Shows how long since I’ve had a new laptop that I didn’t recognise the USB-C port!
Hey, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
Lenovo should get you a cut on e580 sales! Great review, already ordered one, albeit with a cheaper CPU (dont really need all that computing power)
Nice one! Yes, however I think as soon as folks saw a “paid placement sponsored by Lenovo” the credibility of what I say here might take a dive! Just happy that I can help folks like you and me get a closer look at real world use before they buy. Oh and the audio driver got an update and sounds much better now too. Still a laptop speaker but it has improved he volume and bass response. I’ll have to record another update.
Hey did you buy ThinkPad e580, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
Great video, helped me make my decision
Something i noticed, you mentioned that the power plug was propriety lenovo, but is just USB-C
Thanks so much for watching and for your feedback. And yes, you can tell I haven’t had a new laptop for a long time that I didn’t recognise the USB-C port! It wasn’t until I started looking at docking stations a few days ago and realised that the compatible ones were USB-C that the penny dropped!
I’m pinning your comment so hopefully others will see this until I record part three where I will definitely throw in a correction to this!
Thanks, totally understand, great review mate.
Cheers! Much appreciated.
You could also use a HDMI or Display Port to USB Type C adapter with power pass through to get a second screen working.
Cool! Didn’t know they existed! I have a docking station now which works well but good to know there are cables with power pass through!
Yes, very cool! And here's one that does almost everything. www.theverge.com/this-is-my-next/2018/6/1/17413728/the-best-usb-c-hub-for-laptops-macbook-pro
Just putting it in here in case anybody else stumbles upon your video. Which was great, thanks. I just bought an E580 for a client. It looks great.
Nice! Just the SD slot alone would be useful as I need to carry a separate adapter for that when I’m on the go. Definitely need to consider something like this!
Only real and good review on the E580 on youtube till now. BTW bought it a week ago, expecting it one of these days. Most laptop speakers are very poor. If I want a better sound I just use my old Logitech Z305 Clip-On USB Laptop Speaker (like a very handy, portable mini soundbar on your laptop).
Thanks for the kind words, and the great tip! Wasn't aware of the Z305 but will definitely have to check it out! I'm usually on headphones or through an audio interface anyway, but it would be nice to have some slightly better sound for general use.
Unfortunately, it seems the Z305 has been discontinued. (Logitech also has gone on Bluetooth route) You will have to do some research on Laptop soundbar speakers.
Bummer! That sounded cool. Maybe I can pick one up on eBay, or as you say, try other products. Thanks again for your comments.
Hey, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
There is now finally the Ryzen variant of this notebook avaible. The E585 brings you the option for those new, awesome Ryzen CPUs. The rest of the options is basically the same.
It's probably too late since you already got used to it, but you can easily switch the Ctrl and Fn key in the BIOS.
Thanks! Yes, someone else mentioned this and I think o need to explore this option, as while it’s okay, I’m still struggling when I need to switch between my desktop and laptop computers. I will do some Googling to work out how to do this, or if you have a link to instructions feel free to throw it my way.
Really appreciate the tip too! Thank you.
It's actually pretty easy, I'm just going to give you some quick instructions (assumming you never changed something in the BIOS):
1. From Windows, restart your notebook. Entering the BIOS after a regular shutdown won't work, because the respective menu is skipped for a faster boot time.
2. When the Lenovo Logo shows up on boot, press Enter. The notebook will beep and show you a few options, one of which is to "Press F1 to enter the BIOS Setup Utility", which you do.
3. Congratulations, you successfully entered the BIOS Setup menu! It can be a bit overwhelming on first glance, but it's not that bad. The mouse won't work, you have to navigate it by using the arrow keys, Enter and Esc. Press the right arrow key to get to the "Config" tab (at the top of the screen). Here you select the "Keyboard/Mouse" menu item and press Enter.
4. In the "Keyboard/Mouse" options, you can change the "Fn and Ctrl Key swap" option by selecting it and pressing Enter.
5. (optional) I prefer to have the F1-F12 keys perform their standard actions by default and pressing, for example, Fn+F1 to mute the notebook. To switch to this behavior, you can enable the "F1-F12 as Primary Function" option.
6. To save your changes, press F10, then Enter. The system will reboot and the functions of the Fn and Ctrl keys are now switched.
Awesome!! I'll definitely be giving this a go and might even make a video for other folks like me who had no idea you could do this! Really appreciate you taking the time to provide this feedback. Pete.
Pete Johns yeah, no problem. I'm glad to help :)
I have an E580 - the charger is just a USB-C charger. It's SUPER standard and a ton of docks (almost all) use it.
Shame its not thunderbolt though.
Yes, that was a bit of a gaff on my behalf. Shows how long since I’ve used a new laptop!!
I corrected myself in subsequent videos and even picked up the Lenovo USB-C Dock which is awesome.
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how noisy is it? if i'm watching youtube at night and it's really quiet around me, will i be able to hear the fan on this thing?
@@eotikurac No. The fan only kicks in when you're using 30%+ of the CPU. TH-cam only uses 5%.
@@PeteJohnsMusic Thanks for your reply! Its a common error. My dad thought so at first too.
Yup
Cheers Pete! Great review mate.
Thanks my friend! Glad your found it useful. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
Among other things, it has an I7 8th gen chip - which means it can upgrade to Windows 11 :)
Nice!!
You can swap the functions of the Fn and Ctrl keys in the BIOS.
As a pro laptop, you sometimes use it in public while working on confidential stuff so not being able To see what’s going on the screen from thé side is a good thing from my pov
Sure thing! There are screen cover devices that can actually focus the viewing angle too. I’m lucky enough that my work is rarely confidential but for someone needing privacy,, a wide viewing angle may indeed be a drawback not an advantage.
Pete Johns thanks for your answer, keep on with your good videos & good vibes!
Nice laugh. Great to see a reviewer with so much fun.
Cheers! Tech should be a bit of fun I think. About to upgrade the RAM in this sucker... might be a little less fun in that one as the access to the memory looks tricky. 😄
@@PeteJohnsMusic Even though I dont know much about Thinkpads, I have been using them in my company for past 8 years from T40 to T450 now. One of the best series of laptops stopped at T430 and T530 IMO. But now since the new thinkpads have become more style than substance, I am planning to move to gaming laptops like G5 and Acer Asprire 7. Pls let me know if you have some insights into which is is better :-)
Alas, I’m more focused on music so only really review what I use. I have used Acers before I picked up the Lenovo and always found them solid; though a little overloaded with bloatware.
@@PeteJohnsMusic No probs and hope you continue with the laugh ;-)
Thanks for the video :)
Now Im buying it for Fl Studio; would you reccomend it for this?
Yeah, I think this laptop would crush FL Studio. I don’t use it personally but I have had zero issues recording and mixing multiple tracks in Reaper.
Anyone can help me ,, which is better to choose (e-480 or e-590) for programming and youtube watching ,, both have core i5 8250U ,, 4 gb ram ,, 1T hdd ,, and i will upgrade it to a 8 gb ram and a 120 gb ssd ,, i like small sizes more than bigger one ,, and the 400 series are 14” and the 500 series are 15” ,, and can anyone tell me in general which series is better 400 or 500 😁🙌 please help me before i buy this 🤗
Isn't that power plug a USB Type- C port ? If its so.. then you get a ton of docks for connecting multiple monitors...
Yep, sure is! Shows how ignorant I was of newer connection types back then! I did correct this in future videos and actually reviewed the Lenovo USB-C Dock. th-cam.com/video/cWIIq0-zvSo/w-d-xo.html
Im amout to buy a second hand lenovo e580 15 7th gen. Tho it doesnt have a fingerprint scanner. Does it mean its fake?
All post i've seen on fb market place are the same (no finger print scanner)
And im thinking it might be fake models from the same supplier.
Need help.
Hey there. The fingerprint sensor was an optional extra that I chose when I ordered the laptop so these are probably fine.
How do you do it with the battery? Do you load it while youre making music or do you remove the battery before working? And is there a possibility to remove the battery?
The battery is internally installed, so while it is replaceable, it is not easy to do quickly, so I leave it installed all the time.
Pete Johns how many hours does it gets for just light browsing with power saving on
Funnily enough, the battery has never actually gone flat while I’ve been out and about, so I’m saying it’s a lot! I don’t use it unplugged all day, but I’ve got at least around 4 hours out of it with light use. Lasts longer than my iPhone! 😊
anyone use it for vmware workstations VMs?
Hi Pete thanks for sharing your thoughts. How hot does it get usually under moderate load (ie Reaper with 10+ plugins running)? I am planning on getting the i5 version for daily productivity tasks and some music production. Cheers
Hey Kevin. So far it’s been really good in terms of heat - the fans do a good job so the trade off is probably the additional noise I mention in the video. That being said it’s always on a desk with plenty of clearance all around, so haven’t tried the lap test! 🙂
Hey did you buy this ThinkPad e580 model, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
Pete, you just need use the usb-c to hdmi port to extend to multiple external monitors.....Thank me later....
Thought the power was USB C/Thunderbolt?
Yup it is. I discovered this in the subsequent videos. You can tell I hadn’t had a laptop for a while when I made this.
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Still a great overview buddy, I'm using Thinkpad L13 yoga and was thinking of something different to play around with and upgrade to play WOT Blitz
Nice one. Yeah it’s always a learning experience isn’t it!
Is it worth buying in 2022? I planned to buy 2nd hand
Getting a little long in the tooth these days. My daughter uses mine now. Still running well but not the fastest.
@@PeteJohnsMusic But do you think it can handle CADs and a little gaming like valorant?
Just ordered e580 with i5, thanks for reviews! I heard that i7+rx550 too loud and hot, is it right?
I’ve also heard others state this as well, though I haven’t come across this unless there’s a lot of strain on the CPU and video card, like rendering HD video or 3D games. For my daily use and even video editing, it stays pretty cool and quiet.
Hey, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
Excellent video... Would you recommend it for running multiple VMs ?? Is it too heavy... How is the wifi connectivity? I read some mixed reviews about the wifi adaptor being a little slow...
Hi there. Thanks for watching and for your comments. I haven’t run any VMs on it at this stage but with the 8th Gen i7 and 16gb RAM I think it would do just fine.
Weight is about average for a 15”. I carry it on my backpack without any issues but it is definitely not super lightweight like an ultra book - it I was after the extra performance and storage.
Wifi has been fine. I only have a reasonably slow ADSL2 internet connection however so haven’t really tested it on a very high speed network.
Hope this helps!
i just order e580 because your review:)
Great! I hope you enjoy it as much as o do.
Personally think the AMD variant e585 seems super interesting, basically same notebook, just a different mb/cpu added.
Those 2500u offer quite a lot performance at a small price.
Thanks for the extra info. I did consider an AMD processor but have had better experiences with Intel in the past. As you say, definitely good value though!
Hey, what's your idea on E580 ? About the heat management and battery life. I'm looking to buy it any review would be nice...
Great video, thanks
Thanks to you for taking the time to watch and comment. 👍
Hey Pete,
I've been reading some reviews about this notebook and the main issue that people brought up was that it heats a lot.
What are your thoughts about that aspect? did you notice the heating under heavy load?
Hey Alex. I haven’t noticed any excessive heat to be honest. As I mentioned in one of the videos, the fan is a little loud under heavy load when running a game or rendering a large video file but haven’t noticed he temperature issue. That being said, I always use it on a hard, flat surface. I suggest if it was in your lap or a soft surface where the ventilation on the base didn’t have clearance it may get a little hotter.
Perhaps the base models with the i5 and 8GB RAM do get slightly hotter under load also due to he lower specs?
Thanks Pete and B2359 for the replies.
I eventually bought the Laptop last month with the i7 version and RX 550 GPU and yes, it gets noticeably hot.
I noticed it about 1 minute after turning it on for the first time. I was actually shocked that such heat waves are coming up from the keyboard when I first touched it to type my windows username. Perhaps the i5 version does not heat that much, I am not sure.
It still wasn't a deal breaker for me because I either use it when I'm working abroad and then I connect an external keyboard, or I just take it with me to meetings where I don't have to use the keyboard for that long. But I would definitely recommend others to stay away if they are planning to work with it daily.
Besides that issue, the laptop is amazing for the price, so It's really disappointing, especially when it comes to Lenovo and ThinkPads specifically,
Thanks for the update. That is very strange as it’s something I just haven’t noticed. I guess I don’t do a lot of solid typing so perhaps I just don’t notice, but I’ve never found it particularly hot to the touch.
Good to know and to pass on though for sure.
Thanks for the feedback too. I’m not sure if I just got lucky with mine then??
Pete Johns, Well, the i5 heats less than the i7. Additionally, mine has an RX 550 as graphics card which heats much more than an integrated one.
I just returned from a long meeting and the laptop's battery barely lasted for barely 2.5 hours. I wasn't using it "lightly" but I also didn't do anything that should have made the GPU work too hard, or anything that caused the CPU to reach 100% at all times, so 2.5 hours at medium use is another big disappointment.
I just bought it today and found a strange issue. When you plug in and plug out the charger to/from laptop, screen goes black for 2 to 3 seconds. is it normal? does it happen to your E480 too? its completely annoying.
I really hadn’t noticed that to be honest but just tested it and you’re right, though mine is probably one second.
I imagine this is because the power connection is the USB-C port which can actually also be used to connect other devices, including monitors. So Windows 10 is checking to see if it needs to change the video output. Not sure if this is the case in all laptops hat use the USB-C for charging but I imagine it probably is.
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I found out the solution. If anyone requires, do following,
Go to Intel's "Graphic Options",
then Power,
then select Power Source as Battery.
Then disable Display Refresh Rate Switching option.
Now flickering won't happen.
Nice!!!! Great tip and thanks for sharing. 👍
Hello, can you please tell me more about the heat management in your latop. Some says it gets heat a lot. is it true for your laptop too. Is there any throttling under midium load...
Which one would you recommend me to buy: the Lenovo E580 i5 Gen 7200 or Acer spin 3 i5?
Hey there. I haven’t use the Acer so can’t really comment on the comparison, however I’m really happy with my E580.
@@PeteJohnsMusic thank you 😊
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how do you play a game on this when the cpu is locked at 1.6Ghz? and thermal throttle that kicks in right away
???
Hi there. I don’t really use it for gaming - more for audio and video production.
@@PeteJohnsMusic i understand. what game did you play when you tested it?
It won't do that if you use the correct video adapter.
@@nilpo19 wait what do you mean? do you have something i can read or can you explain?
Would you recommend the ThinkPad E480 for Ableton Live with i5-8250U Processor?
Hey there. I haven’t actually used Ableton personally so can’t give you a definitive answer, but from what I’ve heard about it, the i5 should definitely work for you. I would also suggest you get as much RAM as possible.
@@PeteJohnsMusic thanks for the quick reply. I am concidering getting the E480. I had an ASUS before but the motherboard died. :(
Bummer! For the price, you get a lot of bang for your buck with the Lenovo E range!
Hi Pete , Thank you for your time its a great help. I been searching info about this laptop and watch your video before i bought it. Now i am looking for info about maximum ram capacity of this particular laptop. I bought the same one (20KS005BTX) sales company listed as it is 16gb Ram however i see few youtube videos and its upgradeble to 32 gb I am little confused, I watch your memory upgrade video earlier, How can i find out what is the max ram capacity of this particular laptop İ couldnt find it on list of "system info". I dont want to order wrong size of ram. mine came with 8gb if i can effort i will buy 2x 16gb and use this 8gb on my sisters lenovo. If max ram capacity is 16 gb then i will order another 8gb.
Tamer Demirbilek hi there my friend. There’s a great website form Crucial Memory that will help you identify exactly what RAM your laptop needs AND the maximum capacity.
Just go here and enter the model number of your laptop - www.crucial.com/
It’s how I found that my laptop had two slots, each of which could support a 16gb stick of RAM.
@@PeteJohnsMusic Thank you mate
Very welcome. 🙏
Hi Pete: I intend to use it to edit photo as well, would the screen color changes (brighter or darker) if the screen angle is changed slightly, ie tiled 5 - 10 degree back, would the image appears brighter/darker. The Lenovo T series and Yoga are really go such that the brightness doesn't change so no distortion. thanks
Hey there. So I don’t do any photo editing myself so far from an expert. The screen doesn’t have the best range of viewing angles so may not be ideal if you were planning on using it any other way than directly in front.
The viewing angles of this screen are incredible for an LCD display. 5-10 degrees will be barely noticeable. Just keep the screen nice and clean and I haven't had any issues.
Agreed.
Anyone have issue screen blank for 2 second when you turn off the charging plug?? Need help here...
I have this or don’t plug or unplug the power very often so it doesn’t bug me. Someone else did comment on one of my other videos about this so I think there is a fix for this? Sorry I can’t be more helpful.
This can happen. This machine has two different video cards. Based on your power settings, it's probably switching between them when going from AC to battery operation.
Do you think this could handle UE4?
It does have a 2gb dedicated Radeon graphics chip however it is not exactly a powerhouse when it comes to 3D gaming. It would probably do okay but not in the league of an actual gaming laptop.
hi sir i have thinkpad e580 i want to install M.2 PCIe VNMe 256 .Kindly you suggest me which one use (m.2 pcie nvme )Becuse on net too much people face problem with this because compatible issue.I m very thank full you if you will be help me thanks a lot
Hi there. I’m afraid I’m far from an expert when it comes to installing drives and their compatibility. Hopefully someone else can help you out.
Do you still need help? I know whats up.
Is it good for gaming?
Hey there. It does okay for some games, but I wouldn't suggest using it if you are in to extremely resource intensive 3D games.
Hi, what do you recommend L580 or E580?
I went for the E580 personally. I liked the combination of powerful specs and good value.
Hmm ... No information about keyboard backlight. Anyone?
Someone called "Tamara wedell6" has uploaded this video with their own affiliate links
Really? Thanks for the heads up. I’ll check my content matches and flag this one. Appreciate it my friend.
Does it fold backwards into a tablet?
Hi there. No, this model is just a standard laptop with a standard (non touch) screen.
For Gaming?
Not really optimised for gaming sorry.
@@PeteJohnsMusic ohh you saved my money!! Thanks mate 💙
15:11 you can play a game on this? what games are we talking about can you give a example? can't imagine they would be demanding at all
Yep. Hopefully I made it clear that my purpose isn’t gaming? Definitely not a laptop anyone should consider for playing games. It can run The Sims and Roblox which is all my kids care about. 🙂
@@PeteJohnsMusic yeah I didn't get it for gaming was wondering if it was capable of any at all. This laptop is great but the CPU configuration is kinda bad. Trades too much performance for a not so respectable increase battery life. Overall a good buy for business oriented people as long as it is on sale/good price. otherwise with the money there are better choices. thanks for the review tho
Yep. Agree with pretty much all of that. 👍
@@profa6479 @Prof A I am also looking for a battery with better battery life, though would be great to have similar specs to the E580. Have you bought a laptop? Which, did you finally opt for?
well, im subscribed.
Nice one! Thanks so much my friend.
Hi have you encountered error 43 on radeon rx 550? I need help
Hey there. I haven’t sorry? What’s the circumstances that this is popping up?
Pete Johns i have no idea, i just encountered the error ,also using e580
Yeah right. No, haven’t had any issues with graphics or the video card. Have you updated to the latest Radeon drivers?
Pete Johns what’s the version of your driver for you radeon rx 550, can you send me copy? I will try to install
Hey there. I just went to the AMD website (www.amd.com) and clicked through to detect and download the latest drivers so that’s what I would suggest you do.
Can it run league of legends Without lag?
Hey there. I haven’t played that game on this machine. The only gaming it tends to get is when my kids are playing Roblox or The Sims, which it doesn’t fine with. 😊
Any reason as to why you didn't consider a used macbook that would go up to around the same price as your E580, Pete? I figured it would be nice to use a mac since you do a lot of production with garageband.
Really good question Jake and something that I definitely considered. The main reason I didn't is that I'm so familiar with Windows for all my audio and video production in Reaper and Premiere Pro on the PC. Now, you could very correctly point out that both of these applications are available on Mac, however I wasn't keen to spend the time learning the small differences if it was going to put any of my creating on hold. Hopefully I will one day get out of this comfort zone I seem to be in with Windows PCs!
The other issue was getting something powerful enough in my budget. To get similar specs to this machine in a MacBook I would have spend 2-3x as much and was concerned that things like HD video editing and encoding would be too slow. Again though, really good question and something I probably should have addressed in the videos!
Thanks for the response, Pete! I see I see. Good to know Windows suits your work well!
Thats the case for now anyway. Check back in a few months and you’ll probably find me rocking a MacBook. 😄
Jacob JGR The only valid answer to that question would be Louis Rossman
because macs are overprices bullsh*t and noone who has a working brain with enough oxygen would buy a macbook. not even a used one.
slowest, worst computer I've used, even after an 8 gig ram update
Haven’t had many issues with it personally but appreciate your feedback.
I got E580 i7 8550u-8gb-rx 550 2gb but the display resolution not showing 1080p 😩
That’s very strange? On the built in screen or an external display? Make sure you have updated to the latest video drivers.
Did you buy the 13xx x 9xx (not sure and I cant check rn) or the 1920x1080 display?
what about noise and heat up issues?
Hey there. I cover these questions I’m subsequent videos in the series. In my experience, the heat and noise hasn’t been a significant issue, however I have definitely had reports from others that this has been a problem.
th-cam.com/play/PLc8Xg_23Wa56qFWUpVmUyuCRYumlXiJ1S.html
hi Pete. may i ask if there is backlit keyboard on E580? 2nd, i tried to do clean install and cant go into Boot Manager, do you know how?
thank you.
Hey there. I believe there is a backlit keyboard option available but I don’t have it.
I haven’t gone in to the boot menu for a while so can’t remember this. Maybe enter, F1 or space bar? Hopefully someone else can chime in.
Boot menu > F 12 , UEFI > F 10
Brilliant! Thanks for the help.
move the laptop not the camera
Thanks for the tip.
IS he good for gaming like e_sport games ?
Hey there. It has a decent processor, screen and graphics card, but is not really designed as a gaming laptop. It owuld be fine, but there are probably better options.
You'll want a 120hz + monitor for any e-sports, you won't find that in a business orientated laptop.
it would probably overheat. I don't recommend office laptops for gaming.
have cd room plz
Hi there. No, this model doesn’t not have a CD or DVD drive.
Disappointing battery life. I was looking for at least 10 hours.
Thanks for your feedback. I tend to get anywhere from 4 up to 8 hours depending on what I’m running. The battery life stated on the manufacturer specs always seems to be quite overstated so I take that with a grain of salt.
The E580 comes with a lithium-polymer battery - not a lithium-ion. The battery will last a lot longer, just won't have as much capacity.
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Thanks my friend! I have some more videos about the E580 coming soon, as well as a heap more audio and video content. 👍
is it good for using virtual machines??
Hey there. I haven’t actually tried it st this stage, it I imagine with an i7 professor and 16gb of RAM there would be ample resources to run a virtual machine.
I have tried running virtual machines. Couldn't be more perfect. Just get 16GB of RAM (DDR4!) and the i7-8550U and yes, ist perfect. Don't expect too much from the actual Virtual Host though. i.e. Virtualbox performance is pretty bad as is. Don't expect to play games on a VirtualBox VM no matter what host computer you're playing on.
In short, yes.
Thanks for providing this feedback! 👍
Is this a i5 or i7
I have the i7 version. You can take a look at more details in my other videos about this laptop here - th-cam.com/play/PLc8Xg_23Wa56qFWUpVmUyuCRYumlXiJ1S.html
Pete Johns thank you for responding! Also, is it the 8th gen processor?
Yes, it’s the 8th gen processor. Details are in this video - th-cam.com/video/CdKAlSu8SDE/w-d-xo.html
Pete Johns thank you again. Just finished this first video, will check out the next two you sent. I actually pulled the trigger since Lenovo was having a Black Friday sale. Wish I saw your videos first! Since I didn’t NotebookCheck gave it a good review which swayed me, but you’re giving me a good real world idea. Thank you!
Nice one. Spoiler alert - I really like mine still. For the price, you get amazing specs and it runs well. Speakers are not amazing, and can noise is a little louder than other laptops, but in terms of value and reliability, I’m still a happy camper.
Use gloves 👍🏼
When using the laptop if is this just general advice for life? 😊