True... at this point he just waned to reach over the table and strangle Jane. "Damn it... she's not supposed to know that I was going to do that... noone was supposed to know."
This the power of tv. If this was real life the rest of the dinner would be the most awkward scenario possible. But instead the scene ends when the conversation does
pretty odd for someone who has all the motivation and incentive to want an after-life to be real, you know, given the circumstances of his wife and children's passing
@@GrammeStudio Eternal life would be good for nobody in my opinion. People who tend to think eternal life is desirable typically have zero grasp on the concept of infinity, as opposed to the other side who only have a slightly better understanding. It's hard for our little tiny brains to comprehend. You'd get unimaginably bored of everything, it would become so monotonous and it would never end. It would become torturous.
@@goodday2139 Well, usually the people who talk on about an eternal afterlife don't spare much thought to the logistics of it. It's literally something they have been told by someone else and haven't questioned, probably because believing in a blissful eternity is easier than accepting the nothingness that is apparent in reality. Eternity to them is also just endlessly repeating the things they like, and somehow their deity of choice fixes all their worries. Honestly, I wish I could believe that, eternal bliss or "heaven" sounds much nicer than non-existence on an existential level.
@@GrammeStudio Well, for one, he is a scientifically minded realist, he isn't religious by virtue of both his education and his character. Accepting that his wife and child are gone is part of what allows him to move onwards with his life, albeit towards vengeance and bringing their killer to justice, but he accepts the reality of the situation despite how horrible it may be.
"The kingdom of God is real" is a funny thing to say right after insisting psychics are real aswell. The bible has some fairly harsh things to say about such folks.
Isn't that the funny thing, people believe God, somehow believe in ghosts, superstitions, psychics and such, if God exists, then the soul either goes up or down. There no other side in the bible.
@@audsunheatpumpgroup9812 Says who? I'm a Christian and I know for certain that "ghosts" aren't real and I'm definitely not superstitious. As far as psychics, their "power" comes from demons. Demons masquerade as the departed relative and give you the illusion that you are communicating with your dead relative or loved one. How can demons know so much about you? They've been around since the time that Jesus said: "I saw Satan fall from Heaven like lightning" (Luke 10:18). They are among us and have been watching you since you were born. They know every detail of your life. But you are right about one thing. Our eternal soul either goes to Heaven or Hell when we die. There is no other choice and there is no other way to Heaven except through Jesus.
@@edadan lol, look at you go, making up story and theory as you type, genius, a true Christian I guess. Imagine if they actually exists, then the devil watching and God watching over us since we are born, shit, they must be bored, we've doing the same shit as other billions of human out there. It's like watching the same show billions of times. Only human could create something as elaborate as Christianity and some other religion, that glorify our importance to the higher being/Creator/God, somehow they have omniscient power and still cares for us for no apparent reason, even the devil care so much about us that they have to watch us everyday to try and trick us into hell. The more you explain it, the more it doesn't make sense.
@@audsunheatpumpgroup9812 Not surprised that you can't understand it. "Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God." (2 Corinthians 4:4) But if this were me (and it was in the past), I would be concerned. Hell isn't the party place that Hollywood jokingly depicts. No, it's a place of unimaginable suffering with no rest...ever. Heaven is the opposite. Heaven is a place where there is love and joy...no sorrows...only peace. Jesus is the answer. He is the ONLY way to the Father in Heaven. Believe in and OBEY the Lord Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, get baptized, receive the Holy Spirit and be saved!
I really think that this was the scene where Jane started the longest con of his life to put Rigsby and Van Pelt together. He just saw the two of them and thought, I need to see if I can do it. It might take years, but they'll thank me for it later. I'll create the spark between them by suggesting the romance even if it drives them apart for a while, but they'll remember it and come back... over and over, until it sticks.
Feel like it was partly to shut Rigsby up. He was going hard in the paint to try and defend Van Pelt. Looking like a 15 year old just agreeing with everything she says in the hopes she acknowledges him.
Let's be real Jane probably did more for that relationship in that 10 seconds than anybody ever. Knowing what we know about Jane, that he is always right, Rigsby would have asked Vanpelt to his room and she would have said no. That said, he just saved Rigsby from an immediate rejection which would have stopped their relationship from ever taking shape.
Nothing more scary that someone with faith, it's a place you can't logically enter but it's foundations crumble under the slightest effort... Or they are the type to build it out of bones because the voices in their heads will it.
there isn't. various places in space show that physics isn't as "infinite" as people like to pretend. people still argue over where gravity comes from.
@@spongmongler6760 There is ! Would you jump from a plane without a parachute ? i guess no. Just because we don't have a quantum theory of gravity doesn't mean we don't know gravity. The curvature of space-time causes gravity. Who does pretend that physics is infinite (if that even means anything) do you mean space ?
@@cinegabweb I mean those ufo reports that are about to be released, some of which already have been, clearly show ufos defying our 'laws' of physics. I'm not saying there's no such thing as physics but our understanding of the subject is probably rudimentary at this point in time.
there's a hint of longing for his wife/child as well as knowing what he'll do once he finds the killer. with that context this scene becomes waaaay better and why i love this show.
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413 If someone or something tells you not to question it...its prob because its not real. If it was there would be no reason to say that.
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413 If you are really convince by what you are saying you should read philosophy. Blaise Pascal would be a good start if you are just starting but religion is a vaaaaaste subject and scientists have always been interested in it. Cause it is nor stupid or irrationnal. I hope my comment condescending or whatever. But humans' relationship with death / life and religion is more fascinating and complexe than it seems.
Hey Shannon I just been watched the whole beginning to end.. thanks to Amazon prime.. love the show couldn't get enough of it everything was fantastic.
I think I have an more interesting follow on question. When you got together with your other psychics, behind closed doors, did you all just admit it was bullshit?
Idk about real life but i think in The Mentalist there are actual Psychics. Lets look at Red John who even said it as he was dying or the Woman which knew things that are impossible to know. Red John knew a Memory from Jane and Jane never told anyone about it.
@@regobing5435 (Spoilers ahead if you haven't watched) I'm pretty sure he got that memory thing from Patrick's psychiatrist which she'd know from his time in the mental hospital. How I see it, him saying he was a real psychic as his final words simply confirm Patrick's words a few minutes prior to his death saying that Red John was "an evil, sexually perverted sociopath with pathetic delusions of grandeur".
Nah, I'm sure they try to one up each other. If you're that much of a con-artist you would have a huge ego because you fooled so many people. Whats the greatest feeling for a con-artist? Conning another con-artist.
@@Targatay Well i dont believe it but i hope sou are right. That would mean eternal Life without suffering, most People would go insane if they knew they would live forever. I think you just die and nothing happens. But if there is a soul then the soul should go somewhere it cant just disappear.
Someone else pointed out, Jane actually wingmaned for Rigsby. By preventing him from asking, as he still tried to do, it let them get to know each other first, and they fell in love with each other.
"The kingdom of God is a real place!" she says, supposedly defending Christianity, right after supporting the idea of "real psychics," which isn't a Christian thing.
@@joupoes6092 Just because it is your belief does not make it right. The place of god and religion is slowly becoming smaller and smaller as society no longer needs it to explain what science could not. It’s pretty archaic and fallacious to still believe in god
@@alexbalossi5812 Ever argued with someone on the internet with the conclusion being that your opponent changed his mind to your standpoint? No? Me neither. Do yourself a favor and stop trying, these people are lost causes
@@joupoes6092 We can argue about God existing or not or if there's anything after we die but their insufficient evidence to disprove any of those elements out of the table completely, so if you believe in one of those things as long as it works for you good for you. One thing, to me, is for sure though all religions are man-made BS. Fear mongering and power-hungry men trying to subdue others or just manipulate. Historically wars have had a religious origin and/or also backing from those religions more often than not.
Nope. As another poster pointed out, he stopped Rigsby from asking and getting rejected. Rigspelt then had time to learn about each other and eventually fell in love, and stayed there.
Lisbon meanwhile quietly hoping that there will be no harsh or bitter words... she is religious as well but doesn't judge. She shows understanding of Janes loss and is careful not to hurt him. Kind hearted, as Jane would later tell her.
The whole kingdom of God line feels so forced the first time she says it. It comes out a lot more natural the second time, almost feels like it was added in a rewrite or something.
In a similar discussion about what happens when we die, one person thought there was nothing while the other believed there is something else. After some back-and-forth, they agreed that neither would convince the other and that one day one of the will be very surprised. Would this have been the actual end of the conversation here?
No. Jane cannot agree to disagree, because he cares about the subject too much. If there is an afterlife, his revenge is not only pointless, but counterproductive. Also, if the religious guy is wrong, he will not have the capacity to be surprised or realize his mistake.
Real psychics often deliver something that shows the contact is legit - for example, they produce details about the person on the other side they would have no chance of knowing otherwise.
@@stiimuli I have attended various demo-evening with legit mediums. These mediums traveled many hundred kilometers for this, and hardly made a buck from it all. Trust me - none of such people would do CIA-level research on folks for this. All that aside, I know various psychics and mediums personally. Greed and petty schemes to exploit unsuspecting victims is pretty much the OPPOSITE of their motivation. Many critics who smear psychics and mediums without even having taken a personal look at what it is they are, in effect, smearing would be ashamed if they knew how wrong they are and how insulting and abusive their behavior really is.
@@taxiuniversum "trust me" Sorry but no. You'll have to present better evidence than personal anecdote to demonstrate any claimed psychic can actually do what they claim to do. There's a reason why we've never seen the headline "Psychic wins lottery again".
I personally am not psychic or anything, but even I'd right away feel weird and laugh at someone who says that they communicated with the other side...
@@someonesomewhere5994 is that supposed to be poetic or philosophical, given your username? Because I don't see any relationship between water and soul. Water is a liquid. It's a physical entity and matter. Soul isn't.
I think the point was to tell her to enjoy life and just say yes, like “life is too short to be worried about what you can’t see, so just enjoy what you can now...why not say yes?”
if u believe that he was the master mind of everything, then, he saw that they would make a great couple, but Rigsby was about to blew any type of chance he have by making a move on her during the first week, by telling her about Rigsby´s intentions, Rigsby didnt risk it that night, they keep being normal friends, the frienship evolved with some sexual tentions between them, the relationship grow and they ended up together...
As Douglas Adams said, if you had evidence, you wouldn’t need to believe, thus removing the basis of faith altogether. (The Bible is super inconsistent on this as well, given how most people in OT times were literally speaking to “God” and thus never had to have faith either.)
There is - EXCEPT - the vast, vast majority are explained in other ways, and then the people with real extra senses are not described properly. It's much different than media portrays, and there are different kinds. Amongst the pseudo psychics you find just extra perceptive people - sheer reading skills etc, or they may be a combination. So they guess better than average based on slight extra sense. Then of course are manufactured skills - it's unbelievable what you can do with data and surveillance and the thirst that can drive that. People with real extra sense are usually pretty modestly talented, they don't advertise it much, and it's one skill or another within that ability. That means how they receive. So people will think they have successfully debunked it by asking them to do something beyond their level or not within the really mostly modest abilities that most people have. There's a process that can either diminish or enhance what you have and it's often a lifelong journey to figure out how to tune it or balance everything. Unfortunately, describing that is confusing for people with mental instabilities. While they sound similar it isn't. You can certainly find people who suffer from both. I don't think there's a way you could estimate even how many people are mildly or substantially talented, because of the confusion. File that under time consuming endeavors.
It is very rude for Van Pelt to insult Jane like that just because he have different beliefs. More so if she knew why Jane took a career path in the first place. Of course he is poor and sad, and hates liars, attention seeking psychics, he was one and that got his family killed.
It’s not fucking rude because when someone asks you what you fucking believe in and then you tell it to them and then they proceed to say well you’re a fucking idiot and how do you like that I mean gosh my stupid fucking thing how rude of you to ask me this thing that contradict with my own belief how dare you be so inconsiderate of my beliefs, you’re right even in this clip that you used she totally didn’t bring up the topic herself but you’re right if your belief requires that you have to socially strong-arm everyone into believing it then clearly yours beliefs are the best. So on another note let me actually be rude to you for your beliefs here it goes Most religion is equivalent to trying to imagine a red car that is blue, and then proceed to punish me for failing fuck your stupid shit dumb as fuck
@@yalikebe3ns797 Red John Was not Supposed to be who he ended up being! The writers wanted it to be a surprise and someone smart and Witty enough to have been fooling Jane the whole show ! They were taking too long cause even the writers didn’t even know who Red John Should be , so they just settled !
how fitting on him to believe others are the same as him, even if he know for a fact, that most people are quite different and some are even more strange. always believe in your self (sarcasm)
My parents were psychics with 100% accuracy...If I was told if I did __ I would get a spanking. After I did what I was told not to do - I got a spanking
People that believe that the endless void can create energy matter volcano holes out of nothing , at random, and bring into existence everything imaginable and every physical rule imaginable, including god like creature like... Galactus, have no business commenting on the improbability of God. They be just accepted that it exists. Only they gave Him a different name.
That depends entirely on you, the quality of your afterlife I mean (assuming there is one, imho is a fairly safe assumption), it all depends on your life choices.
@@LOLERXP Firstly yes, I have and do often. Secondly, it was not a rhetorical question, it was a statement, a comment, someone thinking "aloud", as it were. Learn how to read before criticizing someone else's ability to think.
@@visiblehuman3705 there are a lot of well constructed arguments that advocate the existence of a higher power. I am neither articulate nor well researched enough to recount them to you. I recommend looking up the subject. Remind me (because I will absolutely forget) and I will give you some names to help narrow your research, assuming you are interested.
That dialogue at the end didn't quite work they're trying to make him look cool by having his insult go unrequited, but any normal person would have left there - the guy and the girl
Jane’s character dialogue usually does feel forced and inauthentic. The actor and character are charismatic IMO and I love the show, but the only reason Jane is successful in any of these situations without burning bridges is plot armor.
if, as talmud insists, on the other side you just sit on a throne with a crown on your head, no business transactions and no baby-making...why would anyone want to go there, and spend an eternity?
Not religious by any means, more believe in science but the fact its a belief allows me to be open-minded. Do I think there is a kingdom of god? No. But things have happened throughout history we haven't been able to explain yet and those inexplicable occurrences male me believe there is more out there than just this mortal coil.
He is wrong, though. While his arguments can very well apply in various instances, of course. Anyone who cares for may look into Noreen Renier, for example.
What I want to know is, if psychics aren’t real, then how the fuck TH-cam knows I’ve been watching this show, never searched a thing even related to it and yet here we are 🤔
Algorithm based on other things you watch plus confirmation bias. For you it found it quick and it feels special, for many other fans it obviously hasn't yet.
Immortal life sounds.... terrible. Imagine for a second how far back childhood seems. Now imagine you're a 100, like the Queen was almost, a wholeeeeee life. Still, nothing but a blink. NOT even a blink. Now picture 2, 3, 4, 500 years. 1000. 10,000. 1 million years "alive" in god's kingdom. 1 billion. You'd experience quite literally everything to experience, worth experiencing. You'd have nothing left to discuss. It just sounds like a nightmare. On the flipside, 7/8 of ALL of humanity (since, not Christians) is for that eternity, while you're enjoying glorious Heaven, is writhing and burning, twisting and blood boiling in the pits of Hell of eternal damnation. Sounds like a loving, almighty, all powerful, all knowing god, eh? Hahahahaha
@@atgblue1 So what's the point of no sinning? If I get the thing right, converted sinner is more valuable than a devoted beliver. I guess it was writen in the book for all those higher ups that didn't want to be kicked out from their positions if they regreted touching where they shouldn't.
Yeah, you'd know, you've been there. Look at the evangelicals and Trump, Islamists & Erdogan, Zen Buddhists & Abi in Japan, Hinduists & Mohdi. All the religionists are bloodthirsty extremists.
I couldn't finish the last 2 seasons because they were just.. bad. And the finale with red john was also shit. But - the first 4-5 seasons were reall really good. Best mentalist type show I've ever watched. Apart from maybe.. sherlock holmes
@@magicmulder Dumb ideas. Cliched, makes all the previous episodes and feelings meaningless. So many of us rewatched the whole series so many times, because everything mattered.
Mentally crippled is the correct term. Literally can't think of or accept any other alternative. "The Kingdom of God is a real place" because it has to be for them. They can't fathom an any other possibility
Her name was Ellen, a frumpy little woman living in Carpenteria, Ca. She had a tattered deck of cards, dealt a spread and everything she saw in my future came to be within the next 2 years. Right down to the color of the car...among other things.
17 years ago I had a guy at a train station come up to me not ask for a dollar tell me my mother's name tell me her occupation describe the girl I was dating and name all of the prominent people in my life at that point.
@@divakarvetri2232 it was 2002 and he was an old black Cherokee man. Nothing about my life had any consistent schedule of when I come and went. I also met him around 3:30 am at the train station and he never asked me for money. Not sure how your hypothesis makes any sense.
@@SpiritualSchmuck You're full of it. It's okay. Psychics aren't real. If that dude really had such a power he'd be doing something with it besides awing random people at a train station. . Just sayin
Such nice build-ups in these clips. Such weak payoffs. These videos should convince me why I’ve been remiss in never watching the show, justify the choice.
Don't care. Go watch other shows. Expecting someone on TH-cam to convince you when it's obviously made for fans of the show who've already seen it, you're just too dumb and arrogant to know what's good.
Little did rigsby know that jane just made the best wingman move ever
True... at this point he just waned to reach over the table and strangle Jane. "Damn it... she's not supposed to know that I was going to do that... noone was supposed to know."
This the power of tv. If this was real life the rest of the dinner would be the most awkward scenario possible. But instead the scene ends when the conversation does
I would just order dessert and move on. If a new topic arises, I'll give my two cents wherever I can
Given how charismatic Jane is, I'm sure he can steer the conversation towards another topic to get things going again. If he chose to do so.
@@mikerobledo6975 lmfao I’m dead this deserves more likes
Who said it wasn’t awkward? They just didn’t show the rest.
If I would throw a drama every time somebody tries to convert me to Christianity. You just ignore them
Why did I read the title as ‘real physics’ ? And wanted to see strong arguments
I did the same thing
Strong argument is YOU STOLE THE COMMENT.
Same!
@@mrdragonage7446 cry harder
well iam also gonna comment this but my brain revert to norma
The "oh I do so hope your wrong" is the most honest line in the entire segment.
pretty odd for someone who has all the motivation and incentive to want an after-life to be real, you know, given the circumstances of his wife and children's passing
@@GrammeStudio Eternal life would be good for nobody in my opinion. People who tend to think eternal life is desirable typically have zero grasp on the concept of infinity, as opposed to the other side who only have a slightly better understanding. It's hard for our little tiny brains to comprehend. You'd get unimaginably bored of everything, it would become so monotonous and it would never end. It would become torturous.
And all the psychics and God aren't real stuff
@@goodday2139
Well, usually the people who talk on about an eternal afterlife don't spare much thought to the logistics of it. It's literally something they have been told by someone else and haven't questioned, probably because believing in a blissful eternity is easier than accepting the nothingness that is apparent in reality. Eternity to them is also just endlessly repeating the things they like, and somehow their deity of choice fixes all their worries.
Honestly, I wish I could believe that, eternal bliss or "heaven" sounds much nicer than non-existence on an existential level.
@@GrammeStudio
Well, for one, he is a scientifically minded realist, he isn't religious by virtue of both his education and his character.
Accepting that his wife and child are gone is part of what allows him to move onwards with his life, albeit towards vengeance and bringing their killer to justice, but he accepts the reality of the situation despite how horrible it may be.
"The kingdom of God is real" is a funny thing to say right after insisting psychics are real aswell. The bible has some fairly harsh things to say about such folks.
Isn't that the funny thing, people believe God, somehow believe in ghosts, superstitions, psychics and such, if God exists, then the soul either goes up or down.
There no other side in the bible.
@@audsunheatpumpgroup9812 Says who? I'm a Christian and I know for certain that "ghosts" aren't real and I'm definitely not superstitious. As far as psychics, their "power" comes from demons. Demons masquerade as the departed relative and give you the illusion that you are communicating with your dead relative or loved one. How can demons know so much about you? They've been around since the time that Jesus said: "I saw Satan fall from Heaven like lightning" (Luke 10:18). They are among us and have been watching you since you were born. They know every detail of your life.
But you are right about one thing. Our eternal soul either goes to Heaven or Hell when we die. There is no other choice and there is no other way to Heaven except through Jesus.
@@edadan lol, look at you go, making up story and theory as you type, genius, a true Christian I guess.
Imagine if they actually exists, then the devil watching and God watching over us since we are born, shit, they must be bored, we've doing the same shit as other billions of human out there.
It's like watching the same show billions of times.
Only human could create something as elaborate as Christianity and some other religion, that glorify our importance to the higher being/Creator/God, somehow they have omniscient power and still cares for us for no apparent reason, even the devil care so much about us that they have to watch us everyday to try and trick us into hell.
The more you explain it, the more it doesn't make sense.
Atheism is a lie anyway. And a proven lie at that.
@@audsunheatpumpgroup9812 Not surprised that you can't understand it.
"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God." (2 Corinthians 4:4)
But if this were me (and it was in the past), I would be concerned. Hell isn't the party place that Hollywood jokingly depicts. No, it's a place of unimaginable suffering with no rest...ever. Heaven is the opposite. Heaven is a place where there is love and joy...no sorrows...only peace.
Jesus is the answer. He is the ONLY way to the Father in Heaven. Believe in and OBEY the Lord Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, get baptized, receive the Holy Spirit and be saved!
Rigsby be simping hard😂
Are you suggesting Van Pelt is mediocre?
She’s a fiery red head. Experience has taught me red heads are far from mediocre 😘
@@erickruckenberg8716
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@brawlin OMEGALUL
I really think that this was the scene where Jane started the longest con of his life to put Rigsby and Van Pelt together.
He just saw the two of them and thought, I need to see if I can do it. It might take years, but they'll thank me for it later. I'll create the spark between them by suggesting the romance even if it drives them apart for a while, but they'll remember it and come back... over and over, until it sticks.
Feel like it was partly to shut Rigsby up. He was going hard in the paint to try and defend Van Pelt. Looking like a 15 year old just agreeing with everything she says in the hopes she acknowledges him.
longest con is such an apt phrase to put 😂👌
But at the same time it took Jane and Lisbon to admit they loved each other towards the end of season 6 and beginning of season 7.
@@Jevans47403 It's easiest for us to fool ourselves. Plus con artists end up believing their own cons, like Abbott said.
I think he was angry at the subject and lashed out. Then covered how hurt he was by lying about hoping afterlife wasn't real.
Jane smiles and look at Bigsby who is now under the bus and be like thanks dude
Let's be real Jane probably did more for that relationship in that 10 seconds than anybody ever. Knowing what we know about Jane, that he is always right, Rigsby would have asked Vanpelt to his room and she would have said no. That said, he just saved Rigsby from an immediate rejection which would have stopped their relationship from ever taking shape.
Finally, I am not alone, someone who also calls Rigsby Bigsby.
@@Arthur-jy2so
You must like Samsung over Iphone.
Nothing more scary that someone with faith, it's a place you can't logically enter but it's foundations crumble under the slightest effort...
Or they are the type to build it out of bones because the voices in their heads will it.
I thought the title was theres no such thing as real physics for a moment.
there isn't. various places in space show that physics isn't as "infinite" as people like to pretend. people still argue over where gravity comes from.
@@spongmongler6760 There is ! Would you jump from a plane without a parachute ? i guess no. Just because we don't have a quantum theory of gravity doesn't mean we don't know gravity. The curvature of space-time causes gravity. Who does pretend that physics is infinite (if that even means anything) do you mean space ?
Totally did the same
@@cinegabweb I mean those ufo reports that are about to be released, some of which already have been, clearly show ufos defying our 'laws' of physics. I'm not saying there's no such thing as physics but our understanding of the subject is probably rudimentary at this point in time.
@@kyle1751 every year the same rumors about UFOs. And sorry a video is not a proof, too easy to fake.
there's a hint of longing for his wife/child as well as knowing what he'll do once he finds the killer. with that context this scene becomes waaaay better and why i love this show.
its a real place
its a real place
its a real place
cant argue with that
rational arguments don't work on religious people , otherwise there would be no religion
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413 If someone or something tells you not to question it...its prob because its not real. If it was there would be no reason to say that.
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413 If you are really convince by what you are saying you should read philosophy. Blaise Pascal would be a good start if you are just starting but religion is a vaaaaaste subject and scientists have always been interested in it. Cause it is nor stupid or irrationnal. I hope my comment condescending or whatever. But humans' relationship with death / life and religion is more fascinating and complexe than it seems.
@@Rosamor There is no evidence of any supernatural phenomena anywhere.
@@nichoudha I don't know, from time to time I have an odd number of socks in my washing machine.
Love how cho is just smirking at 2:15
Hey Shannon I just been watched the whole beginning to end.. thanks to Amazon prime.. love the show couldn't get enough of it everything was fantastic.
I think I have an more interesting follow on question. When you got together with your other psychics, behind closed doors, did you all just admit it was bullshit?
more like talk about how much business youre getting
Idk about real life but i think in The Mentalist there are actual Psychics.
Lets look at Red John who even said it as he was dying or the Woman which knew things that are impossible to know. Red John knew a Memory from Jane and Jane never told anyone about it.
@@regobing5435 (Spoilers ahead if you haven't watched) I'm pretty sure he got that memory thing from Patrick's psychiatrist which she'd know from his time in the mental hospital. How I see it, him saying he was a real psychic as his final words simply confirm Patrick's words a few minutes prior to his death saying that Red John was "an evil, sexually perverted sociopath with pathetic delusions of grandeur".
Nah, I'm sure they try to one up each other. If you're that much of a con-artist you would have a huge ego because you fooled so many people. Whats the greatest feeling for a con-artist? Conning another con-artist.
@@regobing5435 Nah, there weren't. You missed the whole point of the show.
The concept of an immortal soul sounds more like a punishment than a blessing. No thank you…I’ll take oblivion.
What's stopping you?
@@edenarchive4150 mostly being amused by assholes like you.
Well who knows? Maybe your soul is immortal but since we cant remember shit from our previous lives it doesnt matter.. Universe is mad enough...
@@Targatay Well i dont believe it but i hope sou are right. That would mean eternal Life without suffering, most People would go insane if they knew they would live forever. I think you just die and nothing happens. But if there is a soul then the soul should go somewhere it cant just disappear.
The matter that composes your body is "immortal", it will chemically decompose into something else but it won't disappear, just change.
Back when she called him, "Mr. Jane"
Last line was the funniest
This was one of the best shows ever, until Game of Thrones came along. Then when GOT ended The Mentalist was the best show again, by far.
No show disappeared from public consciousness the way GOT did.
I died laughing when he called out Rigsby.
Jane in this scene makes the best prediction ever . Rigbys and Vanpelt get together no matter what
Their awkward moment on the elevator was priceless 😂😂
Someone else pointed out, Jane actually wingmaned for Rigsby. By preventing him from asking, as he still tried to do, it let them get to know each other first, and they fell in love with each other.
I didn't see any elevator in this scene
"The kingdom of God is a real place!" she says, supposedly defending Christianity, right after supporting the idea of "real psychics," which isn't a Christian thing.
I think the point is that she’s gullible. She believes in both, while Jane knows neither are real.
“The kingdom of god is a real place” gets me laughing every time 😂
The way whe says it yeah but it is real
@@joupoes6092 Just because it is your belief does not make it right. The place of god and religion is slowly becoming smaller and smaller as society no longer needs it to explain what science could not. It’s pretty archaic and fallacious to still believe in god
@@alexbalossi5812 Ever argued with someone on the internet with the conclusion being that your opponent changed his mind to your standpoint? No? Me neither. Do yourself a favor and stop trying, these people are lost causes
@@DrewX86 You’re right. Although It pains me to see humanity fall deeper into delusion...
@@joupoes6092 We can argue about God existing or not or if there's anything after we die but their insufficient evidence to disprove any of those elements out of the table completely, so if you believe in one of those things as long as it works for you good for you. One thing, to me, is for sure though all religions are man-made BS. Fear mongering and power-hungry men trying to subdue others or just manipulate. Historically wars have had a religious origin and/or also backing from those religions more often than not.
I get it now. Jane threw Rigsby under the bus because he disagreed with Jane even after working with him for a long time and supported Van pelt.
They just started. Season 1. Not a long time
Nope. As another poster pointed out, he stopped Rigsby from asking and getting rejected. Rigspelt then had time to learn about each other and eventually fell in love, and stayed there.
Lisbon meanwhile quietly hoping that there will be no harsh or bitter words... she is religious as well but doesn't judge. She shows understanding of Janes loss and is careful not to hurt him. Kind hearted, as Jane would later tell her.
He does the same thing to Vega and Wylie in season 7 but without the psychic convo, great example of history repeating itself
“I’m a psychic, and I’m telling you it’s all tricks.”
“Nuh uh, God.”
Nicely put!
this show is awesome :D
The whole kingdom of God line feels so forced the first time she says it. It comes out a lot more natural the second time, almost feels like it was added in a rewrite or something.
🙏🙏🙏 loved this scene
In a similar discussion about what happens when we die, one person thought there was nothing while the other believed there is something else. After some back-and-forth, they agreed that neither would convince the other and that one day one of the will be very surprised. Would this have been the actual end of the conversation here?
No. Jane cannot agree to disagree, because he cares about the subject too much. If there is an afterlife, his revenge is not only pointless, but counterproductive. Also, if the religious guy is wrong, he will not have the capacity to be surprised or realize his mistake.
Only one would be surprised. The other wouldn't (won't) be anything.
@@mikeg6606 Uh I'm pretty sure the other will be happy af if the first one is surprised
"She can communicate with the other side. I've seen her do it."
Really? How exactly did you verify she was actually speaking to anyone other than you?
Real psychics often deliver something that shows the contact is legit - for example, they produce details about the person on the other side they would have no chance of knowing otherwise.
@@taxiuniversum Except when those tidbits are investigated it always turns out the information was readily available from other sources.
@@taxiuniversum Cold reading or prior research. It's not that difficult to do^^
@@stiimuli I have attended various demo-evening with legit mediums.
These mediums traveled many hundred kilometers for this, and hardly made a buck from it all. Trust me - none of such people would do CIA-level research on folks for this. All that aside, I know various psychics and mediums personally. Greed and petty schemes to exploit unsuspecting victims is pretty much the OPPOSITE of their motivation.
Many critics who smear psychics and mediums without even having taken a personal look at what it is they are, in effect, smearing would be ashamed if they knew how wrong they are and how insulting and abusive their behavior really is.
@@taxiuniversum "trust me"
Sorry but no. You'll have to present better evidence than personal anecdote to demonstrate any claimed psychic can actually do what they claim to do. There's a reason why we've never seen the headline "Psychic wins lottery again".
I personally am not psychic or anything, but even I'd right away feel weird and laugh at someone who says that they communicated with the other side...
Water doesn't have to stay in shape to keep it's form. Neither does your 'soul'.
@@someonesomewhere5994 is that supposed to be poetic or philosophical, given your username? Because I don't see any relationship between water and soul. Water is a liquid. It's a physical entity and matter. Soul isn't.
@@dr.downvote im talking characteristics , not matter of fact.
jane straight to the point in his own way.
I still don´t unterstand, after all these years, what the point was to tell her to say yes to Rigsby.
I think he felt Rigsby was a decent guy for her
The glance at 2:37 - she agreed.
I think the point was to tell her to enjoy life and just say yes, like “life is too short to be worried about what you can’t see, so just enjoy what you can now...why not say yes?”
@@jackdoe7233 Interesting, thanks.
if u believe that he was the master mind of everything, then, he saw that they would make a great couple, but Rigsby was about to blew any type of chance he have by making a move on her during the first week, by telling her about Rigsby´s intentions, Rigsby didnt risk it that night, they keep being normal friends, the frienship evolved with some sexual tentions between them, the relationship grow and they ended up together...
I love you Simon Baker ❤❤❤
I read the title as "there is no real physics"
Lol same here
shawn spencer would like to agree
The kingdom of god is a real place.
30 years into my life and i'm still waiting for the evidence for that.
As Douglas Adams said, if you had evidence, you wouldn’t need to believe, thus removing the basis of faith altogether.
(The Bible is super inconsistent on this as well, given how most people in OT times were literally speaking to “God” and thus never had to have faith either.)
I read that as a Physics 😅
There is - EXCEPT - the vast, vast majority are explained in other ways, and then the people with real extra senses are not described properly. It's much different than media portrays, and there are different kinds. Amongst the pseudo psychics you find just extra perceptive people - sheer reading skills etc, or they may be a combination. So they guess better than average based on slight extra sense.
Then of course are manufactured skills - it's unbelievable what you can do with data and surveillance and the thirst that can drive that. People with real extra sense are usually pretty modestly talented, they don't advertise it much, and it's one skill or another within that ability. That means how they receive. So people will think they have successfully debunked it by asking them to do something beyond their level or not within the really mostly modest abilities that most people have. There's a process that can either diminish or enhance what you have and it's often a lifelong journey to figure out how to tune it or balance everything. Unfortunately, describing that is confusing for people with mental instabilities. While they sound similar it isn't. You can certainly find people who suffer from both. I don't think there's a way you could estimate even how many people are mildly or substantially talented, because of the confusion. File that under time consuming endeavors.
I can't find this show anywhere
Reads title*
Oh yeah? Then explain why when I let go of a spoon it hits the ground
It is very rude for Van Pelt to insult Jane like that just because he have different beliefs.
More so if she knew why Jane took a career path in the first place. Of course he is poor and sad, and hates liars, attention seeking psychics, he was one and that got his family killed.
You.... you remember that it's scripted right?
You know iam talking about the character not the actor. I watched the show.
It’s not fucking rude because when someone asks you what you fucking believe in and then you tell it to them and then they proceed to say well you’re a fucking idiot and how do you like that I mean gosh my stupid fucking thing how rude of you to ask me this thing that contradict with my own belief how dare you be so inconsiderate of my beliefs, you’re right even in this clip that you used she totally didn’t bring up the topic herself but you’re right if your belief requires that you have to socially strong-arm everyone into believing it then clearly yours beliefs are the best.
So on another note let me actually be rude to you for your beliefs here it goes
Most religion is equivalent to trying to imagine a red car that is blue, and then proceed to punish me for failing fuck your stupid shit dumb as fuck
super cute Amanda
misread the title as "real PHYSICS"
Jane was such a G , I wish they wouldn’t have fucked up the Red John Reveal
what do you mean
@@yalikebe3ns797 Red John Was not Supposed to be who he ended up being! The writers wanted it to be a surprise and someone smart and Witty enough to have been fooling Jane the whole show ! They were taking too long cause even the writers didn’t even know who Red John Should be , so they just settled !
now why did I read that as Physics
2:48 Aum Namah Shivaaya
how fitting on him to believe others are the same as him, even if he know for a fact, that most people are quite different and some are even more strange. always believe in your self (sarcasm)
My parents were psychics with 100% accuracy...If I was told if I did __ I would get a spanking. After I did what I was told not to do - I got a spanking
Be Dum Tsss
Poor Rigsby
People that believe that the endless void can create energy matter volcano holes out of nothing , at random, and bring into existence everything imaginable and every physical rule imaginable, including god like creature like... Galactus, have no business commenting on the improbability of God. They be just accepted that it exists.
Only they gave Him a different name.
Anybody want to see House vs Jane vs Reid in some popular disbeliefs
How does he do that rolling thingy?
They literally said it. People. Sigh.
I knew I liked Jane.
John Roche
In the end I hope he's is right and life is only this cause if not an eternity of spiritual existence most be very terrible
That depends entirely on you, the quality of your afterlife I mean (assuming there is one, imho is a fairly safe assumption), it all depends on your life choices.
@@Soulslayer612 Have you ever thought something through in your entire life? It's a rhetorical question.
@@Soulslayer612 how is it a fairly safe assumption…
@@LOLERXP Firstly yes, I have and do often. Secondly, it was not a rhetorical question, it was a statement, a comment, someone thinking "aloud", as it were.
Learn how to read before criticizing someone else's ability to think.
@@visiblehuman3705 there are a lot of well constructed arguments that advocate the existence of a higher power.
I am neither articulate nor well researched enough to recount them to you. I recommend looking up the subject. Remind me (because I will absolutely forget) and I will give you some names to help narrow your research, assuming you are interested.
That dialogue at the end didn't quite work they're trying to make him look cool by having his insult go unrequited, but any normal person would have left there - the guy and the girl
Jane’s character dialogue usually does feel forced and inauthentic. The actor and character are charismatic IMO and I love the show, but the only reason Jane is successful in any of these situations without burning bridges is plot armor.
That religious one is quiet condescending it’s she
Scotch & lobster?
The kingdom of God is real and God made it perfectly clear that the dead don't talk to us.
if, as talmud insists, on the other side you just sit on a throne with a crown on your head, no business transactions and no baby-making...why would anyone want to go there, and spend an eternity?
Not religious by any means, more believe in science but the fact its a belief allows me to be open-minded. Do I think there is a kingdom of god? No. But things have happened throughout history we haven't been able to explain yet and those inexplicable occurrences male me believe there is more out there than just this mortal coil.
whenever there is a topic about god, the comment section is where you want to go for a laugh.
Funny they didn't show van pelt's cousin, could have been good
No need to. Nothing to see.
Correct, read up Gods Demons Devils by Dr Kavoor from India.
No thanks
Rigsby shouldnt have opened his mouth lmao
He is wrong, though.
While his arguments can very well apply in various instances, of course.
Anyone who cares for may look into Noreen Renier, for example.
Nope. Psychics aren't real dude.
really should not be watching these clips because they make me indulge the whole series... again.
What I want to know is, if psychics aren’t real, then how the fuck TH-cam knows I’ve been watching this show, never searched a thing even related to it and yet here we are 🤔
Algorithm based on other things you watch plus confirmation bias. For you it found it quick and it feels special, for many other fans it obviously hasn't yet.
She will let him score later that night, thats what her daddy would want.
She will only let him score later that night, because she thinks he tried to cockblock him.
The way she says Mr Jane sounds so cringy to me. Maybe because i am used to consider him as one of the pals from the audience perspective.
The way I see it is she was new to the team so she was just trying to be formal.
I think the ‘smart’ guy here crossed the line... you shouldn’t fk with others belief just for the sake of scoring a point.
Once she engaged in conversation on the topic its fair game.
@@thunderbug8640 she was evading it.
@@butterbean7814 poorly
i wonder how can some people read it as "physics", when its not ph but ps.
Immortal life sounds.... terrible. Imagine for a second how far back childhood seems. Now imagine you're a 100, like the Queen was almost, a wholeeeeee life. Still, nothing but a blink. NOT even a blink. Now picture 2, 3, 4, 500 years. 1000. 10,000. 1 million years "alive" in god's kingdom. 1 billion. You'd experience quite literally everything to experience, worth experiencing. You'd have nothing left to discuss. It just sounds like a nightmare. On the flipside, 7/8 of ALL of humanity (since, not Christians) is for that eternity, while you're enjoying glorious Heaven, is writhing and burning, twisting and blood boiling in the pits of Hell of eternal damnation. Sounds like a loving, almighty, all powerful, all knowing god, eh? Hahahahaha
I dont care how hot you are talk this nonsense and I am checked out.
Now let's not be too hasty here... If the level of hotness is high enough, you can close an eye on some bigotry.
Believes in God but uses demonic practices to “talk” to the other side. People really be ignorant these days
Could've left the first sentence at 'believes in god' lol😂
Repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ, He can save you from your sins if you humble yourself before Him
@@atgblue1 Lmao
@@atgblue1 So what's the point of no sinning? If I get the thing right, converted sinner is more valuable than a devoted beliver. I guess it was writen in the book for all those higher ups that didn't want to be kicked out from their positions if they regreted touching where they shouldn't.
AMEN The kingdom,us a real,place
Yeah, you'd know, you've been there.
Look at the evangelicals and Trump, Islamists & Erdogan, Zen Buddhists & Abi in Japan, Hinduists & Mohdi. All the religionists are bloodthirsty extremists.
48 thumbs down are from psychics hahahahaha
god believers.
I couldn't finish the last 2 seasons because they were just.. bad. And the finale with red john was also shit. But - the first 4-5 seasons were reall really good. Best mentalist type show I've ever watched.
Apart from maybe.. sherlock holmes
I always believed the best reveal would’ve been to show Red John was Jane’s split personality.
@@magicmulder Dumb ideas. Cliched, makes all the previous episodes and feelings meaningless. So many of us rewatched the whole series so many times, because everything mattered.
Softball religious answers make this so incredibly forced. Easy to feel you're right when your opponent is mentally crippled.
Mentally crippled is the correct term. Literally can't think of or accept any other alternative. "The Kingdom of God is a real place" because it has to be for them. They can't fathom an any other possibility
Always forget how stupid and annoying Van Pelt was in the early seasons.
The kingdom of God is here and now.
Her name was Ellen, a frumpy little woman living in Carpenteria, Ca. She had a tattered deck of cards, dealt a spread and everything she saw in my future came to be within the next 2 years. Right down to the color of the car...among other things.
*sighs* Did she give you the results of her prediction those 2 years before? If she did, you likely attracted what she planted in your mind.
Copy Paste ,, Third Eye Spies (FULL MOVIE)
Jane is so wrong it's not even funny. There is " the other side ". 😀
I guess you know cuz you've died. Your logic has.
@@smurfyday and you need to be in outer space to know that earth is round?
immortal soul, bad script, too bad they had to mix kingdom of God and talking about psychics and that dead can be reach.
the kingdom of god IS a real place. that has nothing to do with psychic stuff. she was right. just not the psychic stuff.
LOL, same delusion.
17 years ago I had a guy at a train station come up to me not ask for a dollar tell me my mother's name tell me her occupation describe the girl I was dating and name all of the prominent people in my life at that point.
you my friend must have had a stalker
@@divakarvetri2232 it was 2002 and he was an old black Cherokee man. Nothing about my life had any consistent schedule of when I come and went. I also met him around 3:30 am at the train station and he never asked me for money. Not sure how your hypothesis makes any sense.
@@SpiritualSchmuck your a lying attention seeker.
@@gadio16 I don't dislike attention but being so tall I get it effortlessly. I'm sorry the truth makes you so angry.
@@SpiritualSchmuck You're full of it. It's okay. Psychics aren't real. If that dude really had such a power he'd be doing something with it besides awing random people at a train station. . Just sayin
Weird random dialogue. Also great example of terrible actor eating
Such nice build-ups in these clips.
Such weak payoffs.
These videos should convince me why I’ve been remiss in never watching the show, justify the choice.
Don't care. Go watch other shows. Expecting someone on TH-cam to convince you when it's obviously made for fans of the show who've already seen it, you're just too dumb and arrogant to know what's good.
Hey... Cool it with the anti Semitic remarks