FOR A FREE 30 DAY TRIAL OF CALIMOTO, go to calimoto.app.link/bikesocial and use the code bikesocial30 FOR 10% OFF CALIMOTO, go to calimoto.app.link/bikesocial and use the code bikesocial10 Link to all our product and security reviews: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products Manufacturer websites (NOT AFFILIATED) in alphabetical order & chapters... Abus: www.abus.com/uk Alphadot: www.alpha-dot.co.uk/ Apple: www.apple.com/uk/ ASEC: www.asec.co.uk/ Anchor-Man: www.anchor-man.co.uk/ BikeTrac: biketrac.co.uk/ BikeTrac Lite: biketrac.co.uk/lite Chipolo: chipolo.net/en/ Datatag: www.datatag.co.uk/ Datatool: www.datatool.co.uk/ Hiplok: hiplok.com Insight Security: www.insight-security.com/ Kovix: www.kovix-security.com/ Litelok: www.litelok.com/ Milenco: www.milenco.com/ Monimoto: monimoto.com/uk/ Pragmasis: securityforbikes.com/ Squire: www.squirelocks.co.uk/ Selecta DNA: www.selectadna.co.uk/ Smartwater: detertech.com/smartwater-technology/ Magnum: www.halfords.com/brands/magnum-plus.html Oxford Products: www.oxfordproducts.com/ Roadlok UK: roadlokuk.co.uk/ Roadlok USA: roadlok.com/ Y-Anchor: yanchor.com/ Link to the 3D Printed Roadlok carrier: www.printables.com/model/398673-roadlok-motorcycle-disc-lock-pin-carrier Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:08 Portable security for your motorcycle 04:29 Do motorcycle steering locks work? 05:01 Best motorcycle disc lock 09:22 Best motorcycle D-locks 14:13 Best portable motorcycle chains 17:48 Why you should try Calimoto for free 19:17 How effective are diamond cutting discs in theft? 23:22 Are alarms worth fitting to motorcycles? 24:13 Motorcycle immobilisers 25:13 Why you should use a bike cover 25:34 Is Datatag worth it? Vehicle marking systems 26:35 Best motorcycle tracker: BikeTrac vs Datool vs Monimoto vs AirTags 32:28 Home security for your motorcycle 33:25 Best ground anchor 37:41 Best heavy-duty motorcycle chains: 16mm, 19mm, 22mm & 25mm 39:57 Garage & shed security 40:45 What are the police doing about motorcycle theft? 49:53 Security choices and your insurance
And remember boys & girls, always park your bike next to the Panigale, that way your bike will still be there when you get back (unless yours is also a Panigale).
100% agree. I have been looking for something that is a good enough to deter the casual toerags when I stop for a brew without having to wear a hole in my pannier or risk carrying something pointy and hard on my body. Something i can attach to the bike until needed. Gone are the days when I used to wrap a lock in waterproof overtrousers then stuff it under my seat. These days you would struggle to get a pack of rizlas under the seat.
Agreed, it might be worth checking out a large (pedal) bike shop, they have a lot of clamps etc designed for or sold with locks, though whether they're strong enough for motorcycle use is up to you to decide. In the meantime at least use something like a disc lock.
I actually leave my bike uncovered in my town as rented flat - it’s next to a pub and a busy bus stop. It has obvious multiple heavy duty security on it, and hidden devices. But the benefit of uncovered is every local knows me - all the shops, pubs, and I’ve even befriended the homeless who all watch it for me. I went out one evening to tinker with something on it and a drunk mob immediately came out of the pub to challenge me as I’d a hood up 😂. So befriend your neighbours and watch their back, don’t be antisocial, be courteous and it’ll pay dividends! If I move I’ll buy a cover for sure.
That's the issue here. While videos like this is appreciated, high point of hypocrisy is Met's advice how to keep your bike safe. Instead of police and judicial system doing what they are supposed to do to keep us safe.
I had a similar experince all the bike shops knew my bike and when it was stolen the thief went to a shop to change out the rear shock or something but i had notified all shops it was STOLEN 3 days prior. The store told the guy to come back in a few days.i got my bike. He got the cuffs when he went to pick it up.🤣
This is why other countries with the exact same bikes (often relatively more valuable) don't have the theft problem that UK does. Functional societies based on stable communities. The UK is kept unequal with many poor, insecure and in debt struggling people working all hours for exploitative bosses and never having time to build community like you have.
The quality of the videos you make is completely unparalleled - comprehensive, well researched, information dense and very clearly communicated. If you don't already have a personal channel, and Bennett's don't have contract stipulations against it, I would highly encourage you to consider the possibility. You could talk about things more informally or from an angle that doesn't make sense here, make some longer form videos (you talk to an incredible number of interesting people, I'd be very interested in seeing podcasts or entire interviews) or cover things you've interested in which are only peripherally connected to motorcycles (or totally unrelated!). I think a podcast would even work well here, revzilla have shown the possibilities and I enjoy their work, but it would be great to get something from a different perspective.
Thanks so much, that's really kind of you. Time would be the problem - making videos is just a small part of my job, which means I have very little free time as it is! Cheers though!
Great vid, really helpful. My bike lives outside on the driveway as I don't have an alternative option currently so videos like this are very useful. The layered approach is the way to go seemingly. I've got 8 security devices on it, two of which are alarmed, & the others include a heavy duty chain, ground amchor & one of the grinder resistant D-locks you recommended. It's also covered & on CCTV. I used to have sleepless nights about it but it's obviously insured & I can't do much more than I have so I don't worry about it anymore. It changes nothing & can really ruin the pleasure of having a bike if you think too much about it.
Just to say Don't get complacent I had my Tracer 900 taken from the drive last August. Disc lock and alarm and cover on but I couldn't be arsed after a long and stressful day to fetch out the big chain. Woke up and Gone!! never heard a thing. Damp cloth wrapped over disc alarm and on a trolley then van.... Bstrds!!
@@barrydaly7174 Really sorry to hear that. Bastards as you say & you're right. You can't be complacent or take anything for granted. You've got to lock it up every time like it's the first time as those scumbags are always lurking waiting for a slip up.
I remember a long, long time ago, I whinged that the videos were just a bit too long....... I'm glad you ignored me, as I've pretty much watched them all since (even if I do have to watch many of them in two sessions! 🤣). This one is worth every minute of it - excellent video!
Thanks! I do aim to make my videos 20 mins or less, and thought about breaking this into two, but I really wanted it to be as useful as possible and only managed to shave about 10% off my initial script. Cheers, John
Love the in-depth video and length, and the fact you have even more details on individual videos is amazing. I think motorcycle brands need to fix the bear basic steering locks for something more suitable, and harder to brake apart, like an alt key to lock the bike up via an underneath lock location.
The first FIVE seconds of this video are the ones you really need, I had my bike taken today I was lazy with my security and my bike was taken. Thankfully I have a tracker (datatool) and recovered it right away, BUT I still have to buy and fit a new Ignition lock. This is a great video well worth the watch.
This has to be one of the best MC channels on YT, and John the most thorough equipment reviewer, well, anywhere! I get the impression bike theft in the UK is a more serious problem than here in the states. I have no data to back that up, so could be wrong. Regardless, I appreciate yet another exhaustively researched and well-executed review!
Great video and hopefully it reaches the target audience! From experience the MET are not interested in air tags or basic consumer tracking. But did express interest in approved and recognised tracking systems. Carrying a lightweight chain and finding something to lock the bike to is pretty difficult especially especially in the busy cities. I've opted for a lightweight packable cover, dlock, alarm disc lock and rely on the movement detection text alerts.
Great video especially the section on Merseyside police where I’m from, just recently picked up my new bike so this is massively appreciated thanks for all your hard work John!
@@bennettsbikesocialabsolutely John. And I forgot to say, thanks for highlighting Pragmasis - they are a great UK business and really setting the standard. Paul
I really like your reviews, I can imagine a lot of time and effort went into this one,well done. I’m lucky living in Sweden and low levels of crime .,but I still lock mine , old habits 😂👍🏍🇸🇪
John, you’re a bloody legend for these videos. I mean that, you’re really doing great work. My Abus disc lock is very bright yellow, perfect. Even has a little LED in the key which is brilliant. The Hiplock D1000 is black which is a bit, well, silly. I want to see the lock and I want the thieves to see it too and move on. I will say that the hiplock key doesn’t take up as much space on the key ring. No free lunch I guess.
@@steve00alt70 It’s big, bright blue and doesn’t blend in very well. I want them to see that there’s easier pickings somewhere else. I mostly want to remind myself that there’s a lock on the wheel on those dim mornings when the coffee hasn’t done its job.
@@steve00alt70I think the scenario where someone only notices a bike because it has a yellow disc lock on is extremely unlikely, that's the sort of detail which is usually only noticeable when you start focusing on the bigger object to start with.
Some nice tips. I've got a regular disc lock (with a good size pin) that I use. Bike theft isn't a big thing here and I only really lock it up with that disc lock when I'm far away from the bike for a longer period. I just have it on regular steer lock. Granted there aren't many a times it's needed. I'm either riding it, having a quick stop or it's being stored in my garage or behind a locked fence. I don't commute as it's a pure hobby. Ride safe!
John, a fantastic video and really appreciate the hard work. I have a Hiplok dx1000 on order. However as a result of your video I am now going to also order the ROADLOK disc lock as it’s a great idea and can use in conjunction with my existing disc lock. Keep up the great work.
Great review John I did look at the DX1000 but it’s still preorder only at the moment so bought the X3 instead. I live in a very rural area low population and low crime so use the locks more away from home. At home have possibly best security in two German Shepherds one does not take well to strangers and both have run of the house and garage.
I’m impressed by the thorough testing on the various types of chain and locks. Have you did a similar test on a Roadlok? I would be very interested to know please.
@4:47 I could immediately tell that was filmed in Dublin. It’s a huge issue now in Ireland especially after one police officer is under investigation for manslaughter after a chase on the motorway where the thieves went riding against traffic then crashed and died. So Garda was instructed not to follow if thieves were able to start the bike and ride it without a helmet. My bike got damaged after someone tried to steal it from the underground parking, the ignition switch, steering lock and immobiliser ring were destroyed but they gave up (not sure why). The mechanic who fixed the bike afterwards advised me to not use the steering lock anymore because next time at least I avoid getting the handlebar and the frame getting damaged again. I have two locks and fitted an alarm 🤞
They should use fibres in the outer sheath similar to ones found in chainsaw safety clothing, it might not stall an abrasive dusk but the dimonds eould snag on the fibers and tangle in the angle grinder
Very interesting content , just recently bought the lite lock x1 , really nice to see your review , thankyou , also just insured my bike through Bennetts with the included bike social membership, thanks.
Good informative vid, thanks John!! Just to say I was listening to those two Fecing earlier and they were talking about an end of life test for motorcycle helmets at the 5 year mark, I for one would love to see such a vid ... 👍
Alarm your shed or garage so it's making a lot of noise before they have a chance to attack your bike security make sure access to the alarm sounder is not easy.
I use an Abus D lock on my VTR. I use it through the wheel and around both fork legs. It's designed for this and Honda were good enough to provide a dedicated place to store it under the seat. It fits around the forks with no free play.
Easiest security is to carry a wrench and remove the shift lever after you put it in first. Its quicker than using 4 different locks and thief won’t know what to do
Brilliant video and explanation, thank you for giving us such good and honest advice, I really appreciate the time and effort you give to help us protect our babies 👏❤
I bought the roadlok a couple of weeks ago after your vid. Its pretty easy to fit and locks through the disc easily with no pulling on the bars and anything to stop the scum taking my bike is good.
My Rocket 3R was stolen last night. Cut chain and pushed into a van. Biketrac called straight away and I confirmed that the bike was missing. I call the police and got a report number and supplied Biketrac with the info. Biketrac liaised with the police and in 30 mins I was called by the police and collected the bike. Great investment! I am now ordering 2 of the Dx1000 after watching this so when they return the thieves can “do one”….
Brilliant and exceptionally detailed, as always. My bikes are sat in the garage... next to their disc locks. I'm gonna pop out now and secure them, I think!
if only the police wouldn't also arrest people who try to stop/apprehend thieves and criminals. Crime would drop a lot more when the criminals fear the people trying to stop them before the police arrive.
What on earth are you talking about? Small minded person who clearly has no clue about what the police do and jumps on the band wagon of all other small minded people who criticise the police at every opportunity. Hope you never have to call them. Delusional.
@@bennettsbikesocial yeah the bike lot seem to be decent. The rest I’ll not comment about. I’ve got my security sorted for this year though. In bits in the dining room 🤣.
Following your great video I was interested in the 13mm X 1.2m noose chain from Pragmasis, unfortunately I could not find the chain on their website, I rang them (today 03/05/24) and they informed me that they have stopped making the noose chains due to escalating prices and poor availability from their French supplier. I would be interested to know which alternative noose chains Bennetts or subscribers would recommend, thanks ?
R1200GSA: stolen from a garage and found back by the Rotterdam Police within 1,5 hours thanks to MoniMoto. Disk brake was cut to steal it. Changes since then: Abus alarm disk lock on left side, RoadLok on right side and a thick chain at the rear attached to a heavy object. Sadly it takes now 5 minutes to get the bike out, as also a scooter is parked in front of the GSA.
It's the price/time we pay. As long as it works. (Been there done that) - I think one would just pull/drag the scooter out of the way to get access to your GS. Regards.
i got a little 125 yam ybr on the road, fitted a monster plus d-lock on the disc. noticed scuff marks on the lock and the end cap fell off... Needless to say, also went and got a chain/padlock after that.
Great video as always John, definitely gave me some ideas. I always layer up my security, 3 chains with padlocks, linked together with a massive Abus U-lock, front & rear and ground anchors. Still had some failed attempts at theft from my own property. Pisses me off that insurance companies don't recognise Monimoto
Just got a new honda, thankfully am able to park in the car park next to the police station. Got the Hip lock DX1000, magnum chain, disk alarm lock, abus D lock, tracker, cover. If they want it THAT bad, take the thing 😂😂😂 great video❤
Bikes can be bought where the ignition key is matched to the panniers - I'd like to see a collaboration with the manufacturers and lock makers for more one-key convenience. Edit: Great vid btw! With my targeted advertising trying to persuade me to get a brake lever lock it's good to see some security that'll survive a bleed nipple getting opened!
The problem is that in Manchester if they can't steal it thay will set fire to it. I had 7 rare bikes stolen & burnt over a week. I had a witness that new were thay were & the police refused to do anything.
Please do a super quick video (less than a minute to keep it easy for you!) showing us how you have your motorcycles locked up in your garage. That's all I need before I get my new BMW G310GS. K.I.S.S!
Work it out Robert!!! THINK ! Do what you have to and can do. What is your budget? How far do you want to go??? How much security do YOU want? I suggest lock up your bike with a QUALITY lock n chain ($$$$$$$), chained to SOMETHING. (So he/they cannot carry/lift your bike away) (This QUALITY lock n chain WILL last you for the rest of your life) This way the thief MUST cut your chain or lock (and make NOISE) to access your steering locked bike. (Rear and Front lock n chain perhaps??) For me, this will be the BARE MINIMUM. The BARE MINIMUM. If possible, chain your bike to a Fixed point, to another bike, garage frame, trailer, tow bar, or whatever, etc, etc, etc. All the very best. Regards.
Thanks for the comment TPV! I did get a decent chain and lock (KOHLBURG 13 chain and lock) that is front-wheel attached to a bollard and the base of my water heater in the garage. Let's see them move that bad-boy! Plus, I am using a Hiplock DX1000 in the rear wheel. I beefed up the man-door going into my garage, plus I have motion detectors in the garage too. It may be overkill at this point, but I sleep better at night knowing I won't be in that percentage of bike thefts. Next on Amazon: an NRA sticker on the outside of the garage man door... Go ahead, make my day - Dirty Harry :)
@@RobertHopkinsArt GOOD 1 Robby!!!! Fight fire with FIRE. I have a 'similar' set-up. Yes it is Overkill, but why not? STUFF THEM ! It IS a hassle to lock and unlock every time, but this is the price we pay. I was only thinking this morning, when I leave home and park my (light 2024 KTM 390) and DON'T chain it to a Fixed object (example, pole) 'they' could EASILY just lift it up and throw the bike into the rear of the ute/pick-up/trailer and drive away. Gone in 8 seconds!!! Hav a GOOD 1. Greetings from 'OZ'. (Australia)
I know this is a fringe situation but, in an underground private garage, 2 chains and 1 disk lock where not enough to stop a ducati desmosedici rr from being taken. So your not wrong that nothing will stop the most determined.
CCTV not mentioned! My garage has two cameras inside and three cameras covering all approaches to doors to it! I even have some protecting the house too!!!
My 2022 Ducati Streetfighter got stolen out of our parking garage last year. Disk Lock + 15mm chain where not enough. Thankfully the installed AirTag located the bike 2h away in the Netherlands. I had the bike back the same night. 3k in damage and the thief was let go as he "could not be tied to the theft" (despite he solid record of 80 convicted motorcycle thefts and the bike being parked in his fathers shed). Safe to say German justice system is a joke. I am doubling up on my security now but hope not having to do this shit ever again. Really appreciate the video and all the info on locks!
@@bennettsbikesocial Thought I did everything right, Oxford 8mm locking chian, Oxford disklock, heavy duty padlock on the re gate. They cut through it all in silence, and quickly too.
Soon Mul-T-Lock and I will be coming up with a material that can stop grinders no matter what. It will be like trying to cut metal with a paper knife. The primary target is high security doors, then it's going to take more time and engineering to implement it on portable security.
Thanks for the hard work in putting this together - Great job. I often ride with with my partner and we leave the bikes for a couple of hours - Would a D-lock like the DX1000 be large enough to lock together the 2 front wheels?
I just tried it, and no, I'm afraid not. Maybe over the cast spokes but it'll depend on the bikes. You could link two DX1000s together, if you an afford it.
Excellent information. It would be nice if Baron VG or itchy boots did a bit on how they cover security on a road trip. Fear of getting your bike nicked puts people off of road trips
Phenomenal video! Shame Pragmasis is shutting down. I cannot find a 11mm or 13mm noose chain (eBay alerts setup)! I have managed to get a Pragmasis round lock though. Any idea if there is another noose chain I could use this with around the same weight?
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Manufacturer websites (NOT AFFILIATED) in alphabetical order & chapters...
Abus: www.abus.com/uk
Alphadot: www.alpha-dot.co.uk/
Apple: www.apple.com/uk/
ASEC: www.asec.co.uk/
Anchor-Man: www.anchor-man.co.uk/
BikeTrac: biketrac.co.uk/
BikeTrac Lite: biketrac.co.uk/lite
Chipolo: chipolo.net/en/
Datatag: www.datatag.co.uk/
Datatool: www.datatool.co.uk/
Hiplok: hiplok.com
Insight Security: www.insight-security.com/
Kovix: www.kovix-security.com/
Litelok: www.litelok.com/
Milenco: www.milenco.com/
Monimoto: monimoto.com/uk/
Pragmasis: securityforbikes.com/
Squire: www.squirelocks.co.uk/
Selecta DNA: www.selectadna.co.uk/
Smartwater: detertech.com/smartwater-technology/
Magnum: www.halfords.com/brands/magnum-plus.html
Oxford Products: www.oxfordproducts.com/
Roadlok UK: roadlokuk.co.uk/
Roadlok USA: roadlok.com/
Y-Anchor: yanchor.com/
Link to the 3D Printed Roadlok carrier: www.printables.com/model/398673-roadlok-motorcycle-disc-lock-pin-carrier
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:08 Portable security for your motorcycle
04:29 Do motorcycle steering locks work?
05:01 Best motorcycle disc lock
09:22 Best motorcycle D-locks
14:13 Best portable motorcycle chains
17:48 Why you should try Calimoto for free
19:17 How effective are diamond cutting discs in theft?
23:22 Are alarms worth fitting to motorcycles?
24:13 Motorcycle immobilisers
25:13 Why you should use a bike cover
25:34 Is Datatag worth it? Vehicle marking systems
26:35 Best motorcycle tracker: BikeTrac vs Datool vs Monimoto vs AirTags
32:28 Home security for your motorcycle
33:25 Best ground anchor
37:41 Best heavy-duty motorcycle chains: 16mm, 19mm, 22mm & 25mm
39:57 Garage & shed security
40:45 What are the police doing about motorcycle theft?
49:53 Security choices and your insurance
I say YES to the bright coloured D locks
What chain are we to use now that Pragmasis is out of business?
@@artofthereal Pragmasis still has stock of many products.
Most valuable motorcycle content on the web. Every. Single. Time.
Thanks VERY much! All the best, John
And remember boys & girls, always park your bike next to the Panigale, that way your bike will still be there when you get back (unless yours is also a Panigale).
A Panigale with no locks.😂
I got a Panigale last week. Happy to be doing my bit for the community..!
@@allanyeates then you have no reason watching this video.
@@allanyeates thanks mate, hope you'll understand if I have to move it down the street a bit so it's next to mine 😉
@@allanyeateswhere is it parked
.. Asking for a friend who would like to be your parking buddy loool😂
Wow, just wow. Brilliant, informative and captivating. THIS is the benchmark for motorcycle content, keep up the fantastic work.
Thank you SO much! All the best, John
I would like to see more lock carrying solutions with these locks.
100% agree. I have been looking for something that is a good enough to deter the casual toerags when I stop for a brew without having to wear a hole in my pannier or risk carrying something pointy and hard on my body. Something i can attach to the bike until needed. Gone are the days when I used to wrap a lock in waterproof overtrousers then stuff it under my seat. These days you would struggle to get a pack of rizlas under the seat.
Agreed, it might be worth checking out a large (pedal) bike shop, they have a lot of clamps etc designed for or sold with locks, though whether they're strong enough for motorcycle use is up to you to decide. In the meantime at least use something like a disc lock.
I actually leave my bike uncovered in my town as rented flat - it’s next to a pub and a busy bus stop. It has obvious multiple heavy duty security on it, and hidden devices. But the benefit of uncovered is every local knows me - all the shops, pubs, and I’ve even befriended the homeless who all watch it for me. I went out one evening to tinker with something on it and a drunk mob immediately came out of the pub to challenge me as I’d a hood up 😂. So befriend your neighbours and watch their back, don’t be antisocial, be courteous and it’ll pay dividends! If I move I’ll buy a cover for sure.
That's the issue here. While videos like this is appreciated, high point of hypocrisy is Met's advice how to keep your bike safe. Instead of police and judicial system doing what they are supposed to do to keep us safe.
This is actually solid advice. Sucks for me to be antisocial 😂
But theres always some that will thieve from friends, drugs compel druggies to steal from their grannies.
I had a similar experince all the bike shops knew my bike and when it was stolen the thief went to a shop to change out the rear shock or something but i had notified all shops it was STOLEN 3 days prior. The store told the guy to come back in a few days.i got my bike. He got the cuffs when he went to pick it up.🤣
This is why other countries with the exact same bikes (often relatively more valuable) don't have the theft problem that UK does. Functional societies based on stable communities. The UK is kept unequal with many poor, insecure and in debt struggling people working all hours for exploitative bosses and never having time to build community like you have.
The quality of the videos you make is completely unparalleled - comprehensive, well researched, information dense and very clearly communicated. If you don't already have a personal channel, and Bennett's don't have contract stipulations against it, I would highly encourage you to consider the possibility.
You could talk about things more informally or from an angle that doesn't make sense here, make some longer form videos (you talk to an incredible number of interesting people, I'd be very interested in seeing podcasts or entire interviews) or cover things you've interested in which are only peripherally connected to motorcycles (or totally unrelated!). I think a podcast would even work well here, revzilla have shown the possibilities and I enjoy their work, but it would be great to get something from a different perspective.
Thanks so much, that's really kind of you. Time would be the problem - making videos is just a small part of my job, which means I have very little free time as it is! Cheers though!
Great review as always John. Please keep up the good work as we need this information.
Thanks so much! All the best, John
Great vid, really helpful. My bike lives outside on the driveway as I don't have an alternative option currently so videos like this are very useful. The layered approach is the way to go seemingly. I've got 8 security devices on it, two of which are alarmed, & the others include a heavy duty chain, ground amchor & one of the grinder resistant D-locks you recommended. It's also covered & on CCTV. I used to have sleepless nights about it but it's obviously insured & I can't do much more than I have so I don't worry about it anymore. It changes nothing & can really ruin the pleasure of having a bike if you think too much about it.
You're doing a great job, so please try to enjoy yourself with it now. Nothing's unbeatable, but it sounds like you've done all you can. Cheers, John
Just to say Don't get complacent I had my Tracer 900 taken from the drive last August. Disc lock and alarm and cover on but I couldn't be arsed after a long and stressful day to fetch out the big chain. Woke up and Gone!! never heard a thing. Damp cloth wrapped over disc alarm and on a trolley then van.... Bstrds!!
@@barrydaly7174 Really sorry to hear that. Bastards as you say & you're right. You can't be complacent or take anything for granted. You've got to lock it up every time like it's the first time as those scumbags are always lurking waiting for a slip up.
I remember a long, long time ago, I whinged that the videos were just a bit too long....... I'm glad you ignored me, as I've pretty much watched them all since (even if I do have to watch many of them in two sessions! 🤣). This one is worth every minute of it - excellent video!
Thanks! I do aim to make my videos 20 mins or less, and thought about breaking this into two, but I really wanted it to be as useful as possible and only managed to shave about 10% off my initial script. Cheers, John
You deserve a PhD in motorcycle security
Ha, thanks! All I'm doing is breaking things, and working with proper experts.
But he needs to study communication.
Love the in-depth video and length, and the fact you have even more details on individual videos is amazing. I think motorcycle brands need to fix the bear basic steering locks for something more suitable, and harder to brake apart, like an alt key to lock the bike up via an underneath lock location.
Superb content again John. Cheers.
Thanks so much! All the best, John
The first FIVE seconds of this video are the ones you really need, I had my bike taken today I was lazy with my security and my bike was taken. Thankfully I have a tracker (datatool) and recovered it right away, BUT I still have to buy and fit a new Ignition lock. This is a great video well worth the watch.
Thanks so much. Really sorry to hear about the theft, but great to hear the tracker got it back. Cheers, John
This has to be one of the best MC channels on YT, and John the most thorough equipment reviewer, well, anywhere! I get the impression bike theft in the UK is a more serious problem than here in the states. I have no data to back that up, so could be wrong. Regardless, I appreciate yet another exhaustively researched and well-executed review!
Thanks so much! All the best, John
Great video and hopefully it reaches the target audience! From experience the MET are not interested in air tags or basic consumer tracking. But did express interest in approved and recognised tracking systems. Carrying a lightweight chain and finding something to lock the bike to is pretty difficult especially especially in the busy cities. I've opted for a lightweight packable cover, dlock, alarm disc lock and rely on the movement detection text alerts.
Great video especially the section on Merseyside police where I’m from, just recently picked up my new bike so this is massively appreciated thanks for all your hard work John!
Thanks for watching! Please do join us at our Facebook group. All the best, John
Good to see Abus are now making angle grinder resistant locks too.
Good information to know and use..Nice one BBS 🙂
Thanks! All the best, John
Cracking video, appreciated as always, and the effort you've put in.... brilliant 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! Cheers, John
Can't believe how much information there is in 1 video. honestly, best video out there. Thanks 😊
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
This is by far the best security video on TH-cam. You should make more of the uses for ebikes as well. eCargo and eMTBs are worth thousands.
Thanks! This applies just as much to eBikes, so hopefully it'll help there too. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocialabsolutely John. And I forgot to say, thanks for highlighting Pragmasis - they are a great UK business and really setting the standard. Paul
Another excellent production , well researched and presented. The depth and breadth of these productions is impressive.
Thanks so much! Hope it helps. All the best, John
I really like your reviews, I can imagine a lot of time and effort went into this one,well done. I’m lucky living in Sweden and low levels of crime .,but I still lock mine , old habits 😂👍🏍🇸🇪
Thanks so much - that's really kind. And good call - it only takes a few seconds to lock up and it's well worth it. Cheers, John
John, you’re a bloody legend for these videos. I mean that, you’re really doing great work.
My Abus disc lock is very bright yellow, perfect. Even has a little LED in the key which is brilliant. The Hiplock D1000 is black which is a bit, well, silly. I want to see the lock and I want the thieves to see it too and move on. I will say that the hiplock key doesn’t take up as much space on the key ring. No free lunch I guess.
Those Abus keys are cool, but yeah, I prefer a slim metal-only key, so it'll fit with my others. Cheers! John
But why would u want the thieves to notice your bike even more with a bright yellow lock? You want your bike to blend in and ignored.
@@steve00alt70 It’s big, bright blue and doesn’t blend in very well. I want them to see that there’s easier pickings somewhere else. I mostly want to remind myself that there’s a lock on the wheel on those dim mornings when the coffee hasn’t done its job.
@@steve00alt70I think the scenario where someone only notices a bike because it has a yellow disc lock on is extremely unlikely, that's the sort of detail which is usually only noticeable when you start focusing on the bigger object to start with.
Some nice tips. I've got a regular disc lock (with a good size pin) that I use.
Bike theft isn't a big thing here and I only really lock it up with that disc lock when I'm far away from the bike for a longer period. I just have it on regular steer lock.
Granted there aren't many a times it's needed. I'm either riding it, having a quick stop or it's being stored in my garage or behind a locked fence. I don't commute as it's a pure hobby.
Ride safe!
John, a fantastic video and really appreciate the hard work. I have a Hiplok dx1000 on order. However as a result of your video I am now going to also order the ROADLOK disc lock as it’s a great idea and can use in conjunction with my existing disc lock. Keep up the great work.
Brilliant, thanks very much! You'll have a great combo there. All the best, John
What a brilliant video, so informative and unbiased. Thank you.
Thanks very much! All the best, John
Great review John I did look at the DX1000 but it’s still preorder only at the moment so bought the X3 instead. I live in a very rural area low population and low crime so use the locks more away from home. At home have possibly best security in two German Shepherds one does not take well to strangers and both have run of the house and garage.
Still a great lock, and sounds like you have some good guards there! Cheers, John
Dogs are the BEST !!!
I’m impressed by the thorough testing on the various types of chain and locks. Have you did a similar test on a Roadlok? I would be very interested to know please.
Thanks! Roadlok is in this video
thank you for spe ding the time and effort on this video! I do really appreciate it. I'm from over the pond
@4:47 I could immediately tell that was filmed in Dublin. It’s a huge issue now in Ireland especially after one police officer is under investigation for manslaughter after a chase on the motorway where the thieves went riding against traffic then crashed and died. So Garda was instructed not to follow if thieves were able to start the bike and ride it without a helmet.
My bike got damaged after someone tried to steal it from the underground parking, the ignition switch, steering lock and immobiliser ring were destroyed but they gave up (not sure why). The mechanic who fixed the bike afterwards advised me to not use the steering lock anymore because next time at least I avoid getting the handlebar and the frame getting damaged again. I have two locks and fitted an alarm 🤞
Wtf, how it's possible? Criminals are protected nowadays better than law abiding citizens
Fantastic video John. Such a valuable channel you have created here.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
They should use fibres in the outer sheath similar to ones found in chainsaw safety clothing, it might not stall an abrasive dusk but the dimonds eould snag on the fibers and tangle in the angle grinder
Kevlar matting
Very interesting content , just recently bought the lite lock x1 , really nice to see your review , thankyou , also just insured my bike through Bennetts with the included bike social membership, thanks.
Fantastic, thank you! The X1's a good investment - nicely done!
Watching from the US- great comprehensive video!
Good informative vid, thanks John!!
Just to say I was listening to those two Fecing earlier and they were talking about an end of life test for motorcycle helmets at the 5 year mark, I for one would love to see such a vid ... 👍
I'll have a look at that, thanks!
Thanks John I got a pragmasis chain and litelok x1 based on your reviews . Good work👍
Thanks, and good choices! Cheers, John
Alarm your shed or garage so it's making a lot of noise before they have a chance to attack your bike security make sure access to the alarm sounder is not easy.
So TRUE.
I bought a hiplok dx1000 for my ebike, should be with me next week, thanks for the video mate
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
honestly one of the best channels on bikes
Thanks so much! All the best, John
I use an Abus D lock on my VTR. I use it through the wheel and around both fork legs. It's designed for this and Honda were good enough to provide a dedicated place to store it under the seat. It fits around the forks with no free play.
Perfect!
Easiest security is to carry a wrench and remove the shift lever after you put it in first. Its quicker than using 4 different locks and thief won’t know what to do
Brilliant video and explanation, thank you for giving us such good and honest advice, I really appreciate the time and effort you give to help us protect our babies 👏❤
Thank YOU for watching! Cheers, John
I chuckled when I saw the chain that looked like it had been borrowed from a ship anchor.
I bought the roadlok a couple of weeks ago after your vid. Its pretty easy to fit and locks through the disc easily with no pulling on the bars and anything to stop the scum taking my bike is good.
Great! I'd never recommend any security I hadn't thoroughly tested, so I'm glad you like it. Cheers, John
My Rocket 3R was stolen last night. Cut chain and pushed into a van. Biketrac called straight away and I confirmed that the bike was missing. I call the police and got a report number and supplied Biketrac with the info. Biketrac liaised with the police and in 30 mins I was called by the police and collected the bike. Great investment! I am now ordering 2 of the Dx1000 after watching this so when they return the thieves can “do one”….
Sorry to hear that, but really glad you got it back okay. Cheers, John
What an awesome video John, thanks for all the reviews and other amazing content you share!! 👍👍
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
Absolutely fantastic review thank you for all your hard work on this and always 👍🏻 THE best & most thorough reviewer out there.
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
Brilliant and exceptionally detailed, as always. My bikes are sat in the garage... next to their disc locks. I'm gonna pop out now and secure them, I think!
Everything helps! Cheers, John
Brilliant, what with a high level of bike theft in my county, this is a well received and comprehensive advice source you can get.
Thanks! Hope it helps. All the best, John
Disc lock: Road lock
D-lock: HiplockDX1000
Tracker: MoniMoto
Chain: Pragmasis Super Duper Anti-pinchman?
if only the police wouldn't also arrest people who try to stop/apprehend thieves and criminals. Crime would drop a lot more when the criminals fear the people trying to stop them before the police arrive.
So true thugs have more rights than us. Sickening
What on earth are you talking about? Small minded person who clearly has no clue about what the police do and jumps on the band wagon of all other small minded people who criticise the police at every opportunity. Hope you never have to call them. Delusional.
Not sure I understand why you would fall foul of the police in these circumstances … Citizens Arrest is legal in the UK is it not?
@@andrewmunro2339An "arrest" is meaningless without the threat of force to back it up. That's where you get neutered.
Police doesnt want to capitalize on chads like me that would put someones jaw in without shame. They prefer a city living in fear
Never seen it here, but in Cambodia they often padlock the main stand down. Seems a good idea.
Cracking reviews and roundup, just watched the whole thing and taken notes!
Thanks so much! Hope it helped. All the best, John
Done the advanced riding with Merseyside police the other year. Was a really good couple days.
Brilliant video yet again 👌.
Thanks! Yeah, like all the bike cops I've met, they're a great bunch.
@@bennettsbikesocial yeah the bike lot seem to be decent. The rest I’ll not comment about.
I’ve got my security sorted for this year though. In bits in the dining room 🤣.
Another great video John , love my Roadlok & easy to store the pin when out.
As always a very useful and informative video. Thanks John.
Cheers Nick! All the best, John
Great video as always. What a great motorcycle ambassador you are!
Following your great video I was interested in the 13mm X 1.2m noose chain from Pragmasis, unfortunately I could not find the chain on their website, I rang them (today 03/05/24) and they informed me that they have stopped making the noose chains due to escalating prices and poor availability from their French supplier. I would be interested to know which alternative noose chains Bennetts or subscribers would recommend, thanks ?
Your neighbours must love you John 😂 great work, you made me interested in locks
Ha! They're very tolerant. Cheers, John
Top work John - plenty to think about right there.
I call BS on the police attending if you report a tracker location. They’re such liars. They’ll give you a crime reference number and that’s that.
Great informative video like all your videos,
All bike security locks should have bright colours
Agreed! Warn them, remind us! Cheers, John
Massive respect for this comment mate.
Top bloke. You’ve done it again.
Really enjoyed your video all the best in your next set of travels
Thanks! You too!
R1200GSA: stolen from a garage and found back by the Rotterdam Police within 1,5 hours thanks to MoniMoto. Disk brake was cut to steal it. Changes since then: Abus alarm disk lock on left side, RoadLok on right side and a thick chain at the rear attached to a heavy object. Sadly it takes now 5 minutes to get the bike out, as also a scooter is parked in front of the GSA.
It's the price/time we pay.
As long as it works. (Been there done that)
- I think one would just pull/drag the scooter out of the way to get access to your GS.
Regards.
Thank you. Excellent info. Also been with Bennetts and have always had very competitive quotes.
That's great to hear, thank you! All the best, John
i got a little 125 yam ybr on the road, fitted a monster plus d-lock on the disc. noticed scuff marks on the lock and the end cap fell off... Needless to say, also went and got a chain/padlock after that.
Great to hear it did its job! Cheers, John
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for all the effort you go to.
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
Great video as always John, definitely gave me some ideas.
I always layer up my security, 3 chains with padlocks, linked together with a massive Abus U-lock, front & rear and ground anchors.
Still had some failed attempts at theft from my own property.
Pisses me off that insurance companies don't recognise Monimoto
It's frustrating, but the reason will be that it's self-fit. However, I am trying to change things...
@@bennettsbikesocial always appreciate your hard work John 👍
WOW !!! What bike do you have please?
Regards.
I use a Lite Lock X1 to lock up my eMTB :)
I've got one on my MTB. Cheers, John
Thanks - another well considered and objective video. No interest in the outcome, just guided by access to real-word intel. Good work Sir!
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Just got a new honda, thankfully am able to park in the car park next to the police station. Got the Hip lock DX1000, magnum chain, disk alarm lock, abus D lock, tracker, cover. If they want it THAT bad, take the thing 😂😂😂 great video❤
Sound like you've done a top job. Cheers, John
Get a cover!
Bikes can be bought where the ignition key is matched to the panniers - I'd like to see a collaboration with the manufacturers and lock makers for more one-key convenience.
Edit: Great vid btw! With my targeted advertising trying to persuade me to get a brake lever lock it's good to see some security that'll survive a bleed nipple getting opened!
Love these videos. Very helpful.
I bet your neighbours love you with all that angle grinding. :)
You are very good , love these informative videos
The problem is that in Manchester if they can't steal it thay will set fire to it. I had 7 rare bikes stolen & burnt over a week. I had a witness that new were thay were & the police refused to do anything.
Please do a super quick video (less than a minute to keep it easy for you!) showing us how you have your motorcycles locked up in your garage. That's all I need before I get my new BMW G310GS. K.I.S.S!
Work it out Robert!!!
THINK !
Do what you have to and can do. What is your budget? How far do you want to go??? How much security do YOU want?
I suggest lock up your bike with a QUALITY lock n chain ($$$$$$$), chained to SOMETHING. (So he/they cannot carry/lift your bike away) (This QUALITY lock n chain WILL last you for the rest of your life)
This way the thief MUST cut your chain or lock (and make NOISE) to access your steering locked bike. (Rear and Front lock n chain perhaps??)
For me, this will be the BARE MINIMUM. The BARE MINIMUM.
If possible, chain your bike to a Fixed point, to another bike, garage frame, trailer, tow bar, or whatever, etc, etc, etc.
All the very best.
Regards.
Thanks for the comment TPV! I did get a decent chain and lock (KOHLBURG 13 chain and lock) that is front-wheel attached to a bollard and the base of my water heater in the garage. Let's see them move that bad-boy! Plus, I am using a Hiplock DX1000 in the rear wheel. I beefed up the man-door going into my garage, plus I have motion detectors in the garage too. It may be overkill at this point, but I sleep better at night knowing I won't be in that percentage of bike thefts. Next on Amazon: an NRA sticker on the outside of the garage man door... Go ahead, make my day - Dirty Harry :)
@@RobertHopkinsArt
GOOD 1 Robby!!!!
Fight fire with FIRE.
I have a 'similar' set-up. Yes it is Overkill, but why not?
STUFF THEM !
It IS a hassle to lock and unlock every time, but this is the price we pay.
I was only thinking this morning, when I leave home and park my (light 2024 KTM 390) and DON'T chain it to a Fixed object (example, pole) 'they' could EASILY just lift it up and throw the bike into the rear of the ute/pick-up/trailer and drive away. Gone in 8 seconds!!!
Hav a GOOD 1.
Greetings from 'OZ'. (Australia)
I know this is a fringe situation but, in an underground private garage, 2 chains and 1 disk lock where not enough to stop a ducati desmosedici rr from being taken. So your not wrong that nothing will stop the most determined.
''Thou shalt NOT steal''. Ex.20 (KJV version)
(The word of Almighty God)
CCTV not mentioned!
My garage has two cameras inside and three cameras covering all approaches to doors to it!
I even have some protecting the house too!!!
Great vid jfc!
Very informative content, thank you John
Cheers! John
My 2022 Ducati Streetfighter got stolen out of our parking garage last year. Disk Lock + 15mm chain where not enough.
Thankfully the installed AirTag located the bike 2h away in the Netherlands. I had the bike back the same night. 3k in damage and the thief was let go as he "could not be tied to the theft" (despite he solid record of 80 convicted motorcycle thefts and the bike being parked in his fathers shed). Safe to say German justice system is a joke.
I am doubling up on my security now but hope not having to do this shit ever again.
Really appreciate the video and all the info on locks!
Sorry to hear that, but glad you got it back. Cheers, John
Excellent information, much appreciated. Cheers
Glad it was helpful! Cheers, John
Brilliant ❤ some amount of work in that video!
Sore point, my very first brand new bike nicked at 5 months old. 2k miles on her.just a few days ago.
Really sorry to hear that!
@@bennettsbikesocial Thought I did everything right, Oxford 8mm locking chian, Oxford disklock, heavy duty padlock on the re gate. They cut through it all in silence, and quickly too.
Sadly nothing at all is unbeatable. Really sorry!
trouble with covers is the melt, you need to wait ages for bike to cool down first.
Yeah, on some bikes it can be a pain, depending on the position of the can and how hot it's got
Soon Mul-T-Lock and I will be coming up with a material that can stop grinders no matter what. It will be like trying to cut metal with a paper knife. The primary target is high security doors, then it's going to take more time and engineering to implement it on portable security.
Look forward to seeing that!
Great video mate 💪
Thanks!
Love the roadlok. So easy.
Thanks for the hard work in putting this together - Great job. I often ride with with my partner and we leave the bikes for a couple of hours - Would a D-lock like the DX1000 be large enough to lock together the 2 front wheels?
I just tried it, and no, I'm afraid not. Maybe over the cast spokes but it'll depend on the bikes. You could link two DX1000s together, if you an afford it.
This vid was pretty darn good.
Thank you! 👍
Thanks! All the best, John
Excellent information. It would be nice if Baron VG or itchy boots did a bit on how they cover security on a road trip. Fear of getting your bike nicked puts people off of road trips
Good idea! Cheers, John
Yup it is on my mind.
Phenomenal video! Shame Pragmasis is shutting down. I cannot find a 11mm or 13mm noose chain (eBay alerts setup)! I have managed to get a Pragmasis round lock though. Any idea if there is another noose chain I could use this with around the same weight?
I'm about to test some from Hiplok, so keep an eye on www.bikesocial.co.uk
Cheers, John
BIKE TEFT iin Ireland is trough the roof and the Guardi do nothing to prevent it.
Have the road lock on my ktm 1290 gt great bit of kit.
Amazing content!
Thanks very much! Cheers, John