In the age of AI generated images, I don't care if someone draws like a 3 year old. I will shower them with encouragement because at least they're willing to try it themselves. Even the least skilled artist still gets my respect. Artists need to stop being hard on themselves and other beginners, especially now
and art is just really grueling at times at every level. each person has their own obstacles to deal with during their art journey, and it’s admirable when they try to get through them
I hope more people start to feel that way. I switched from AI Art -> Art community and brought a bunch of my followers with me but then one messaged me so distraught because they were being mocked for their beginning art skills and switched back to AI 🥺
This! I’ve been helping my sister out and giving her tips with her art, no matter how bad I think it looks. It makes her super happy and I love to see that.
@@pabcakeh same, i prett ymuch abandon twitter and tiktok for anything art related bc there's always drama or rules or whatever, i only use insta for art inspiration-- id like to say ever since quarantine happened people have gotten too far stuck online in social media and dont know how to be kind anymore.
There's tons of insecure artists on the internet (especially Twitter) calling themselves "professional" while they have mental breakdowns over not making their rent because they refuse to behave professionally and deliver their commissions on time.
@strangeaelurus go ahead and do it, getting harassed for your art sucks and it's intimidating as hell, but most people being genuinely mean instead of giving constructive criticism actually have no idea what they are talking about, and will often just pull things to whinge about out of their asses. It sucks to deal with them, but don't let them stop you from posting your art. There are still so many wonderful people who will encourage you and enjoy seeing you improve ❤
Let's be honest, in my experince most of theese people will see renaissance masterpieces and not actually know or appreciate their value Lot of people who just don't actually know what they are talking about and even worse use their perceived sense of superiority as a justification to bully kids (many of which seem to actually be experimenting and showing actual attempts at understanding what works and what does not) At the end of the day there are alot of rude people in the world
tiktok is the meanest social media platform i’ve ever had the displeasure of using, like i’ve never seen hate not just normalised but celebrated like it is there
Including Twitter. It's because my friend artist when she posted her art of an adult fictional character in NSFW, people start receiving her hate, so she deleted it. I felt so bad for her :((
I mean sure all sorts of social medias have it’s big numbers in toxicity but GOOD BABY JESUS TikTok is on a completely different level. Not just people normalizing bullying or racism, but even the most IMORAL things anyone could imagine. If it ever got banned from the web as a whole I’d honestly enjoy the internet a bit more.
As a beginner artist on the internet, it is indeed a mental health hazard- because people making fun of you and giving 'criticism' can lead to mental issues, or just in general some self doubt and insecurities. Especially when the beginner artist is a child, because their brain isn't fully developed yet, and it could lead to serious mental issues. But basically, what I'm trying to say is please don't leave hate comments on beginner artist's art, or any artist's art, not just because it's extremely rude, but because it could hurt that person more than you know.
I have been drawing for 4 years and I am learning Sonic and My Little Pony art I love supporting new artists, everyone should welcome new artists to the community
@@flask223 tbh yeah it's not safe, but you can't really stop them if they're on the internet already, so ig you might as well just support them or just let them know that they probably shouldn't be on the internet, if anything
my absolute favourite thing to do is to hype up and support beginner artists, art can already be challenging itself, so encouragement and support would help them in the long run. Plus, all those artists that makes masterpieces starts out as beginner themselves. Beginner aritsts have potentials, HUGE potentiomals, it sucks that people who make fun of them and bully them always fail to see it.
Oof, totally agree, been one of those young artists myself. Too impatient to learn and try to improve and trying to keep the content coming as often as possible to please the algorithm, I ended up burning out and rn doing art for myself without posting anywhere. As additionaly an ao3 writer, I wish my attitude towards art was the same as towards writing stories (I write both fanfics and originals). I write stories based on ideas I get in order not have to keep them all in my head, and then I post them on ao3 in order not to take storage space or create mess on my device, and also because I don't mind sharing with others. But I don't care much if noone sees them. Even of there are zero hits, fine by me. Why do I only have this attitude when it comes to writing? And funnily enough, I even post on ao3 so rarely so I don't have a big feedback history. Yet I still don't care (though I wouldn't like it either way if someone started shitting on any of my works, but the way I treat unpopularity alone is still so different from one form of content to another)
I saw this person who showed their art progression over a couple of years. She was probably somewhere between eight and eleven years old, so her art was obviously not absolutely amazing and perfect in every single way. So because her art wasn't perfect, people in the comments section told this kid to stop drawing and give up. Because THEY didn't like her art. How fucking embarassing.
these people are either non artists or because their ego is so high in the clouds they forget even THEY were at this point in their life, especially even at young ages too. no one is born out of the womb with a big ass paintbrush and a canvas that has a freshly painted mona lisa on it.
I really hope that doesn’t stop her from making art. :( This is why social media sites/apps ask that you must be at least 13 years old or older to use it because there are a bunch of awful assholes and creeps online.
my friend posted her art on tiktok once and got trashed on so fast and deleted the post. i felt terribly bad for her. her drawing was really good too :( my advice to beginner artists is find people who will hype up your art as well as give you valid criticism, just posting on the internet isnt going to get much positive feedback 🤷♀️
Tiktok is the worst place for a beginner artist bcz all the people there don't care about shit and give unnecessary hate without understanding a person's mentality
im really glad ive never posted my art publicly… ive had friends criticize my art without me asking and it sucks. cant imagine what its like being criticized and hated on by a bunch of people
sameee my cousin constantly calls it ugly and it’s gone to the point where i don’t dare to show my art :( i already can’t imagine posting my art online and getting so much hate for it D:
My friend literally called my art the ugliest thing she had ever seen and not in a sarcastic way and it really hurt, but she literally showed me traced art and had the audacity to say that it’s hers and original. I don’t understand this.
I’m an older beginner(16) and I’m absolutely terrified of posting any of my art anywhere because of all this. Also, I feel like I’m going to get a lot of hate for not being able to draw well “for my age” I miss when I was able to just enjoy drawing without caring abt what others thought. Tysm for all the advice and encouragement! Y’all are so sweet
I'm 30 and started getting into art when I was in my 20's. I made an Instagram about 4 years ago and I'm very fortunate that I haven't received any negative comments, but I know that's not the case for everyone. No matter where you are on your art journey, keep creating and try not to let others stop you. (:
@@elviar.910 ty and good luck on your art journey as well! Honestly it’s super hard not to compare myself to people my age or younger that can draw better, but I know we all have different starting points. I’ve been taking drawing seriously for 8 months now, and I think I’m really improving so far! It’s rlly important not to get so caught up in what random strangers online might think.
I totally get that!! I'm 18 and have been drawing since I was 4, but I got insecure of posting my art because no one in my family every appreciated it. Posting on insta was nice, but on reddit I got made fun of so much. From a young age I thought because no one appreciated my work, that it was bad, and I was worse than what 'an average artist' of my age could draw (also there's no such thing, every artist gets better with time and how they understand things). But the biggest motivation now is, doing it for myself, I love seeing my own journey and improvement when I post!! Don't let the number of likes or anything stop you, it doesn't prove your worth, what matters is that you keep going and keep drawing, and in time you'll be happy with your art journey!!
I feel like this truly started with those "DeviantArt cringe" videos. Like those videos were just rude to be rude. Artists online over the years have progressed but only in certain demographics. But over the past like 7ish years the need for younger artists (10-17) to be the very best has just gotten worse. I think its especially bad when adult artists hate themselves over it as well. Its not as horrible as before but its still bad (imo).
It's wild, because even the DeviantART cringe videos from people like SolarSands and stuff tend to tell people not to send hate to anybody in the video. Not gonna hurt less when you see your art in there if you didn’t directly submit it yourself, but at least it's an acknowledgement that mobbing the artists with mean comments is bad. It isn't enough, of course. They really did normalize this.
Animation meme cringe compilations and "insert character" fangirls flipaclip cringe compilations also started thiss I remember ppl getting so mad for someone using the circle tool😭
I remember that I used to be in such a sweet and caring art community. We would stand together against tracers and shine light on small creators. We would hold contests and do collaborations ect… So sad that this is what the majority of the art community has become.
Art community has always been a bit shit though, people just forget about DevientArt hell and people being bullied over closed species and that one phase of "If you make fan OCs you're cringe"
worst feeling is seeing actual artists hating on beginner artists like just because youre past that beginner phase doesnt mean youre suddenly an art god and everyone is below you 😭😭😭 as an artist ive been encouraged by non artists to hate on beginner artists and i just dont want to take part in that because its disgusting and no one deserves that...... i really have to know what argument these haters have for doing this
croaket's situation makes me want to cry. its just pure cruelty. if i was exposed to that amount of vitriol as a minor I may never have made art again. they're so strong for continuing to draw and to share their work in spite of what they've been through and continue to go through. and i personally love the way they draw, even before they improved significantly. the art style is unique and charming, and it hurts my soul when people mock different art styles. i get rude comments on my art style on reddit that really shake me sometimes. and, if I posted it there, I almost certainly would get worse comments on tiktok. we all need to be less ready to make fun of each other because we all forgot the word cyberbullying exists.
When I was about twelve I followed a couple of artists on twitter and started posting art on there too in hopes of one day being like them. Long story short one of my tweets got to their circle and they started commenting things like "people like this have the nerve to call themselves artists" or "I know 5th graders who are better artists then them" (I was literally in 5th grade myself) It was awful to say the least, cause I got attacked by the very people I looked up to I don't post my art online anymore, but the story has a good ending as I got into my dream art uni this year and won't be giving up on art any time soon :P
Thanks so much for validating not taking art “seriously”, i.e. not making a career out of it. I have insane respect for people who do art as a career but I’ve been drawing for fun my entire life and I think people don’t like my art as much as my friends who draw as more than a pastime. I love drawing but that’s not the only thing I like to do, and I feel like people dislike my art more because of that tbh
People let capitalism take over and took the myth of "doing what you love and you never have to work" too seriously tbh that they think everything should be "to pay the bills" and not for actual love of the craft.
fun fact: the artist croaket aka "rendering process :]" at 10:14 is in the same school and art class as me and guess what! they've improved so much and got into AP as a freaking sophomore while everyone else were juniors and seniors. they're also hella cool!
As a beginner artist this is so touching, even though I didn’t get any hate yet this kinda just lifted my spirit you know? It made me feel better about myself and my drawings, it made me be able to tell myself that my drawings don’t have to be the top best also, this gave me a better way to respond to hate and negativity. Thank you
Sad that this is still an issue in the art community. I remember people talking bad about my art on deviantart 15 years ago and that ruined my ability to post art without caring what people will think as a kid.
as a young artist i am so glad that when i first came on the internet to post my art people were wayyy nicer than what i see they are like to other younger artists nowadays 😭😭 but it also saddens me that the community has gotten so much more hateful than it (in my eyes) used to be.
i remember deviantart golden age back in ~2016, no matted how bad my art was being a literal child posting on the site never garnered any hate, in fact i even got compliments for horrendous art and small commissions as well, like seriously it was so positive
To all beginner artists i really recommend not posting on any toxic social media platforms (i mean they all are but just domt go on super toxic ones) tiktok mag be good for you to get rips but you will face lots of criticism whuch may be unneeded but, just stay giid keep practising and yeah :)
tumblr is decent because its not focussed on views/reach, and you can appeal to the specific people you want to. like when i first started doing fanart (it wasnt too bad but like also yikes lmao) and despite the art being not good, people in that more niche community tend to be more encouraging
I feel like there's no such thing as "bad art" or "wrong art" in the art community. You can't tell somebody to draw a head or hands or eye's a certain way. Every artist has a art syle & it's there's. Every one's art is beautiful. That's what makes art, art.
I am a pretty young artist and I’m always so scared of people just openly criticizing my art or making fun of it, I’m glad I rarely see artists like myself getting hate on TH-cam though
Few days ago. In Facebook group. There was a kid that posted a traced art. It was so bad that you could tell it wasn't adult doing it. The art got reposted to "expose" them. After that people started to harass the kid even his friend and family got into this. They started Posting their personal and their friends and family info online for some reason. People need to calm down. I understand that we as artists want give "justice". Because we don't get as much. But that's doesn't mean we have to be a low community that go after beginners and kids. Or just attack people for their style "if it was not problematic ". And in the end of the day it's art. It's supposed to be a hobby. a fun thing. before it's a job or something. Not everyone want to be a professional artist. leave people alone. That is kinda disgusting. Do better if you are like that. Anyways great vid thank you for saying that. I was getting tired of the tiktok videos of . "OUR ART LORE TODAY IS..". Just shut up❤.
I've been drawing for 12 years (almost my entire life) and haven’t stopped. I stop by some art communities once in a while to share my art with others of my interests and original characters. It was fun until at one point I was bashed for my art. At the time I was mainly drawing FNAF content since that was my obsession at the time and it made me happy. After being bashed it made me want to give up on art entirely. I didn’t feel motivated to pick up my pencil. The feeling was unforgettable, and I don’t want to see just now beginning artist to go through what I have, and would rather see them grow into making their own works in their own style and own way instead of being insulted.
I hate how high standards are set for artists now. Those who have just begun are expected to pump out god-tier art. That's not how it works, you have to let them find out their own style their own way. They're allowed to follow tutorials to find their style and whatever. What matters most is the style they grow to like. It's what makes them happy and proud their works the true work of art
God, TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!! As someone who started using the internet fairly young, i was THERE when all the cringe culture stuff was at its peak and it really did a number on me mentally; ESPECIALLY since i was just starting to do digital art at the time. Honestly i wouldn't wish what i went through on ANYONE! It breaks my heart that so many people are so cruel to young/beginner artists even now, we really need to do better...
it kills me seeing young artists being made fun of or being discouraged from making art just because they're beginners. my art was made fun of when i was in middle school, and it affected me badly. even now, over ten years later, i struggle to have confidence in my art. i really want to do art as a career, but at the same time, i'm terrified to show people my art. every time i do try showing someone, my body trembles and i get nauseous. not just that, but it killed my motivation. i quit drawing for two years in high school. i was too hurt to draw. i still struggle tbh. i don't draw as much as i want to because the fear of making "bad" art controls me. please be kind and encouraging to new artists. everyone starts somewhere. in time they will improve.
Even as an experienced artist I rarely post on social media, the art community is so toxic at this point I’ve given up. To all beginner artists, don’t feel pressured to post your art all the time!! Not everyone is built for it, and you’re just as much of an artist as everyone who’s active online ❤
for everyone in the comment section being like "the art community used to be so much more accepting of begginners", do you guys don't remember the "cringe compilations" ? or the harasment of children for making "too repetitive" animation meme ? i'm glad we're past that, but sad we're still harassing people who are having fun on another plateform. The original "rendering process" dude (i forgot they name) didn't even do something bad, i actually like the piece, the palette is nice to look at, the hair look fluffy, they definitely have skills.
Thanks for the video! I remembered when I was a pre - teen/ teen there was a large community of novice art haters so they formed a group in the most popular social network of my home country and went nuts. They made fun of literally everyone who even dared to draw something. Of course, they didn't criticize, they wanted to feel power, so they usually went for the arter`s persona and harrased them, sometimes even doxxed. Their favourite catchphrase was "If you can't draw, don't show it". The main leaders were two grown ass artists, who encouraged every member to keep being like that in terms of "making art community better". So many young artists stopped publishing their works, and even more were severely traumatized. I can't imagine what they felt. Personally, I was so scared, that I decided to stop showing my art at all and this eventually led to my skill regression. Times passed, and I'm so so so pissed to hear that things didn't change much. That's beyond sad. And if anyone wonders what happened to that group, someone tried to sue them, so main leaders quickly closed the group, and now they try to get their popularity despite everything. I think they even have a TH-cam channel, and do things there like nothing happened
I’m glad people are talking about this, I want to post my art but bc of all of this shit I get too scared to post it cuz I know I’m just gonna get bullied so seeing somebody like you speaking about it makes me feel a bit better about my art skills. I feel so bad for the people who got made fun of this kinda shit ☹️
There's this beginner artist on insta who's getting flamed for their art and accused of getting pity follow. Idk if it's true but thr fact that they're willing to share their ideas is great I hope all beginner artists would improve greatly through the years and continue supporting the next wave of beginner artists
Genuinely as a experienced artist it's sad to see the same ppl as me drag down and bully young artist online acting like they weren't there themselves, let's be for real anatomy is hard nor easy at all, instead of them helping them and leading them into the right direction they bully and drag down ppls creativity and confidence, I'm so sorry for anyone who's been through or is even scared of Posting their art u should never ever be put in that position or feel that way, don't let these ppl drag u down for whatever hobby or enjoyment u have.
As an artist who had been my art being told ugly and I can't make friends with the people who have pretty art styles just because I didn't know how to act as a minor, it really hurts to be a beginner. Beauty is all people care about and that's why im here to defend them
This kind of thing has been happening since the times of "Deviant Art Cringe" channels and it's quite unfortunate that we let this part of art community culture to continue and affect the newer generation of artists.
In my 7 years of posting art online (and im only 18), tiktok was the ONLY place i had to deal with mean comments, not constructive but straight up mean ccomment, and it was only this year which is actually insane in 7yrs of being online. I remember on deviant art when whatever you posted, whatever your level or the themes of ur art, there would always be someone to genuinely like and comment ur art!!!! I think its non artist that often like to be mean, as the art community as became more "open". Anyways ppl if u read this, please encourage young artists and beginner artists, its not that hard and can really change a lot of things for them, maybe becausr of u and ur kind comment they will continue drawing!!
The thing is, this stuff can affect someone for their entire life. I never got art hate when I was younger myself, but simple from watching it happen to others, it got this idea on my head that "My art has to be better/perfect or they would get mad at me as well" That I would be hated and on one would ever love and appreciate my art. And that feeling is still there in my head to this day, making it hard for me to accept the imperfections in my art and making me improve, because it has to be perfect, otherwise it's not worth anything. Even art I'm proud of turns into "It could have been so much better" the moment I share it with someone. I can't even begin to imagine how bad it must feel to have an adult treat you (a child) that way.
I couldn't tell why I found your strong accent so soothing and intelligible then I hear you speak my native language and it all clicked! keep up the good work Rin^^
It feels like many people who are mean about art don’t love art. Like, learning anatomy is good, and it makes you realize how suspiciously, uh, stylized some art looks. However, there is a big difference between accidental and intentional, and the accident can also look good! “There are no mistakes, only happy little accidents.” - Bob Ross (i think). Now, my tip, as someone who as switched from drawing to writing but loves art, is to simply try. You make art for your own enjoyment. As an expression of yourself. If you are unhappy about getting hung up on little details, say “f+ck it”, take a new sheet of paper and draw something exaggerated. Make the proportions wonky, the arms and legs too long, the face distorted, the eyes hyper realistic and the body only a rough sketch - it can be so much fun to just go for it. Your art probably won’t look the way you imagined, but that is fine. I drew since I could hold a pen and continued to do so for ten years, I got better with lots of practice and never stopping. I tried different styles, going from rough to detailed, and I liked it. Art is subjective, style is not supposed to be realistic, and deliberately confronting yourself with the things you hate and dislike (by disliking it and leaving hate comments) is senseless. How many now famous artists had their art sneered at, barely making a living wage with it, yet now basically the entire world knows them? And there are many famous hobby artists, too. And style and preferences can change. For example, I hated classical music as a child because my sensory system was completely overstimulated by the many sounds stacked over each other, but now I’ve come to like it. Though I quite dislike Mozart - heard one, heard them all, and the more I know about the guy the more I dislike him. Same with Picasso, where I even have the dumb story of walking into my school’s art classroom, seeing a painting placed by the teacher’s desk and going “I could’ve done that better”. That was the copy of a Picasso painting. It’s a good thing I’m not on tiktok, it would drive me up the wall. Thank you for reading this long comment, and I hope that whoever made it this far will feel encouraged by this community Rin has built. Kindness is precious, and happy thoughts make happy words make happy actions make happy experiences. I know it’s hard, and so, so difficult, but you have to believe that the future is worth it. Have a nice day, and think positively!
Hey, I have been on the internet for 11 years now! and it’s really sad seeing beginner artist get lots of hate for their artwork. Like it’s really saddening. I remember back in 2021, was harassing my drawing in a drawing game, he said that I should get better and their were other people in the server and he was saying stuff that really hurt me, he kept like vote kicking me and some people were standing up for me, but I guess I got kicked and I just didn’t come online the next day because I was crying all night. But I have improved so much now, I like drawing horror movie fan art and my own OC’s as well . Aaa Sorry for long life story . I was nervous posting this story. Here’s two more things, I was inspired to draw again because I saw a few horror movie fan art back in 2021. Second thing, Do Not Harass Beginners it can affect them in mental ways and it hurts. By a random person.
I’m more of a novice artist but I grew up on the internet. You get tough skin from it but not everyone is like that. I’ve come a very long way in my art journey. And I definitely didn’t get here by being “criticized” on the internet. People need to leave these kids alone and have fun. Having fun is part of improving
Once i was scrolling throught tiktok and found an acount of a begginer artist sharing their process, and for the way they wrote and talked and expressed they were so obviously like 10 yo. And the coments... 💀 God the coments were being so fcking mean and awfull 💀
Fr I hate ppl 💀 I used to have a tiktok when I was like 12 where I posted my beginner art and I had so many comments just flaming the way a drew and calling it ugly. Like was it the most professional art ever? Obviously not, I was 12. But their comments were literally doing nothing to help and just made me delete my account and stop drawing for like a year. That was like a whole year of progress I lost. Man fuck tiktok lmao
man i'm so glad i had the space and time to be arrogant about my art as a beginner without getting hate for it. it's a part of growing as an artist to realize that you've got a lot of improving to do and to humble yourself. getting completely trashed by other artists to the point of giving up makes that step impossible. to all the new artists out there: you've made leaps and bounds since you first picked up a drawing tool and you deserve to be proud of that. don't let that pride keep you from learning more, but don't let criticism do it either.
I got into posting my art online when I was 11 and yeah that was hard. Since I was immature and completely clueless to some stuff, I had a lot of people bully/harass me. When I see a kid saying wrong stuff i either ignore it or calmly explain to them the situation. At that age, they believe that they truly do know everything. I also did. It’s natural for them to act that way. I mean, posting art online as a kid was both horrific and really blissful for me. It was nice because I could build a community and be motivated to draw more and improve myself. But it was bad because I said and did stupid stuff and even if I didn’t, I got bullied really hard. Even the slightest comment could immensely affect a child’s mood. It’s a very tricky area.
The fact that this isn’t a new issue is just sad. I remember watching “cringe animation meme” compilations and it really took a toll on my art. I looked at my art and couldn’t enjoy it because it looked similar to the art on those compilations. Thankfully I’ve grown out of that mindset but it’s sad seeing people bully beginners because of their art.
yk this recent spike in toxicity in the community made me realize how lucky i was as a beginner artist in like 2019. i was getting nothing but support from the other artists around me, if i recieved any sort of bullying i would've probably quit 💀 especially cause i was on mf amino, like, nothing good came out of that app but at least i never got bullied for my art
Art lore was funny at first, then it became making fun of beginner artist and no one saw the problem with it. The art community has probably one of the most toxic people but the most caring people at the same tome
My dumbass thought art lore was just making up random lore about like your OCs or yourself as the artist and then expressing it as art like a doodle or somethin'. . . Man, I was way off!
I feel sad for a lot of new artists, seeing all this go on with young artists who are just starting their art reminds me of how anxious I got to be when I was posting my art as a beginner artist myself in 2016. I try my best to support my art friends with their art as they grow with it, and I love sharing videos I find helpful in improving art. It is also just as sad seeing some of my art friends being terrified of posting their art online and then tearing themselves down because their art is bad so says some random person hating on another young artist or not being able to do what they want to do in art instantly. it's like a vicious cycle :(
that's why I told the teens on the game site I play at (all ages and up, therefore kids are on it too) not to make an art tiktok. they naively think turning off comments will solve the problem.
im 16 and I only really got into drawing hardcore serious human rendering, artystyles and hairs. I often feel really really discouraged since Im not a 13 year old prodigy and I always am worried I'll never be able to improve. I am part of some small friend art communities but we're all still some form of beginner and sharing out in the open isnt a good option since, well the art community now is more toxic than an oil spill :( so yeah struggle is really really big. If anyone has suggestions on people who share good tips or videos about coloring/anatomy learning things id appreciate it :D (btw I love your voice so much its so pretty)
Its so saddening to see how toxic and aggressive the art community is now. I remember when i first started posting my art and animations to the internet. They were pretty bad, choppy frames, sloppy line art, weird anatomy. But so many people commented how much potential i had and how impressed they were and how if i kept practicing id become something great. Without those comments i wouldve stopped art all together. If i had started now im sure i wouldnt have kept going. Its depressing to see what was once a super happy, supportive, and encouraging community turn into a hellhole of hate and toxicity
I’ve always wanted to post my art online, but I don’t think I could handle the potential criticism or hate mobs. I’ve shown my “friends” my art in the past, and they’ve laughed at it. I wanted to give up and just fit in. One even went as far as ripping my drawing, mistaking it for a classmate of the same name. I swore to myself that I would become a professional artist and then share it just not to be ridiculed, but now that I’m older, I think that’s ridiculous. I don’t need a hug box, but I also don’t want my ideas to die with me. I feel like cringe culture really messed with a lot of people. I can barely find myself using terms like “OC” or “persona” without feeling like a total outcast. Fortunately, my boyfriend has been supportive of my passions, and I actually look forward to sharing any new thing I make with him. My advice is to find someone who appreciates you and to distance yourself from people who tear you down. There’s a difference between keeping it real and trying to belittle you as a conversation starter. Another thing art is hard, but it’s something we do because we love doing it. Don’t let some rando scare you from expressing yourself in the best way you know how. You’ll get better but try to enjoy your journey along the way, y’know. 💖
This is the same energy as those art TH-camrs back in 2015 who would give unsolicited "critiques" of kid's art on DeviantArt or Amino and it's honestly so tired and pointless. It's all the more disappointing when it comes from other artists too, like we all didn't go through lows in our art journeys.
I remember back in 2016 I was like 12 and started posting my art to Instagram and other art platforms only to be bullied and laughed at … like I was a 12 year old who just got into color pencil art
The art at 5:50 doesn't even look bad. I think the anime proportions give the video a modern ironic charm. People just take things too seriously sometimes cuz they wanna dunk on it.
Every time I find a beginner artist online who's brave enough to post I go into the comments to point out every good thing they did in the drawing. Because if a drawing is good enough you can recognize what they're drawing, then it means they must've done SOMETHING right. So there is always a way to boost them up. It's not really about helping them improve for me with what I say, but giving them the confidence to keep trying to improve. That's more important for their growth than any criticism I could ever give.
I love her accent so much it reminds me of my family members who are fluent in our native language and are not the best at English, I could listen her for hours(and I will lol)
I've been drawing all my life, and I remember when I first posted my work when I was just a lil kiddo on instagram. People were so much more supportive back then??? My art was what you'd expect for an 11 year old, but people were nice. I don't post my work anymore nowadays mostly because of all the negative stuff I've been seeing around. It genuinely scares me :( I really do miss the days where my friends and I would just support each other by commenting on each others posts and sharing them. Also, there is a line between constructive criticism and straight up bullying. I would 100% ask for criticism from my friends and they would give me actual advice and I'd take it. What's been happening lately is rarely even constructive criticism and it hurts to see how younger artists are getting discouraged by all the negativity they get blasted with just because their art isn't super good out of the gate.
It’s “art lore” and “cuteness overload”. I swear I get so mad when I see it on posts of people just drawing or anything else. Maybe someone’s makeup, maybe someone’s clothes. Heck maybe someone’s face. It’s insensitive and people need to realize when enough is enough. Cybering bullying is laughed at by users, but it’s a very real thing.
I found about your videos a while ago and I'm enjoying all of them! It's great to find a content creator and artist like you, who talks their mind without making fun of others and actually helps immature artists instead of making them feel incompetent and worthless! I hope more people can find your videos
the way you have the same humor and slang as me and my girly gay friends gets me so excited to watch your videos. its like having a conversation with a bestie but none of my girly pop friends are art girly pop friends so i appreciate you and get your money honey!
I truly sometimes dont understand how the first thing someone could think of when seeing a beginner artist or a artstyle they dont like is to bully them. Like how?? Why do so many people think this is okay? These people suck so much im rly sryy to all the kids and people and in general who were affected by this stuff :(
I must say, I love your art and I never imagined you would be Romanian too (i think) just wanna say that your art and sense of humor brought me here, and now Im just giddy 😂😂😂 keep up the good work. With sincerity One of your fans :)))🎉
And this is why I am firmly against the idea that "you need criticism to improve!" because it's mostly used to treat people like shit for the crime of not being perfect and make people feel untitled to impose shitty advice on artists that never asked for it. Even if they do need to improve, why do you think you will be the only way for them to do so? If they directly asked the help that is different, but if not, you don't have to say shit. Even if they never improve either, how does that affect you? Just let people do what makes them happy and if they make better art, I promise you, it won't be because of you, but rather because of their own hard work.
Critique is very specific and tailored for the artist! It keeps the artist’s original goals in mind! It keeps their art level in mind too! Like, a-lot of this off the cuff critique is stuff that the artist already knows about or will naturally improve out of.
One thing I hate the online art community is that they get pissed off when other artist are confident with their work. This is especially true when it comes to confident beginning artists. I got in a argument with a lot of TikTok artists because I said not everyone has to take the compliment you give them. Because if I know I’m good at something I’m going to tell you “ I know.” Because I know. I’m not a self deprecating artist and I can’t stand self deprecating artist. Even if my skill level is not high I’m still confident with my art, and my skill level will only grow.
I am very fortunate that I didn’t start taking my art online until I became confident within my skills, like when I got online and started posting my work I wasn’t good but I wasn’t going to let some random stranger on the internet tell me otherwise. Now on the internet it’s hard to find artist that aren’t getting by without shitting on their work while making it. If you have any ounce of self apperception or confidence you immediately get attacked for it. Like huh?!
pls tell me you don’t say “I know” to compliments like “Your colour choice is great” or “I love how you drew this, the lines are so clean!” from strangers😭 those are usually just people who admire your skill and think ur art is nice, not people who are trying to degrade you and dump on your art There’s confidence, and then there’s overconfidence. yes, you are not contractually obligated to take a compliment but like… they’re just tryna spread the positivity 💀
@kat5418 of course not. If people give me or other people those compliments I of course know and do say thank you. I'm just saying on perspective of artist needing others validation to consider themselves good on that that certain thing. For example, if I know I'm good, your compliment is literally just a compliment to me because I know I'm good. I think people value feedback and validation to much when it comes to art, which I'm not saying is a bad thing but you are your biggest supporter so if you aren't supporting and seeing your own value in your work without those people what's the point?
@kat5418 and I really want to know what's the problem people have with overconfidence? Every time I brought this point up, other people also said it's good to not to be cocky with your work. I feel like as long as that individual can see what they need to work on to better their work, why is overconfidence an issue?
@@ArtWithAWaddlepersonally i try to avoid overconfidence because it can lead into putting down other people (who might not have any confidence at all) - for example, those tiktoks rin showed at the beginning of their video with people putting down the artwork of their classmates. judgment and mistreatment of others is a symptom of overconfidence. i think it's normal for young kids to be overconfident, but they gotta grow out of it before they hurt someone with their arrogance. that's just my opinion though
Also the whole talk about "arrogance" kills me 💀🫠 People don't know what that means, and will punch people down for the slightest moments of them expressing pride on themselves or positive self-esteem. Which is even worse bc they are all just kids 🫠🫠🫠
it was good that as a kid i wasn't on social media neither was anyone else. i was considered art kid of the class and people in family praised my art which got me thinking i was good artist lol. and i didn't even know what anatomy, perspective etc meant in art at the time. so in the beginning stages keeping away from social media is important so that you can progress at your own pace without hurting self-confidence along the way.
I'm a bit more than halfway throughout your video and my blood is already boiling. I pictured the art community a lot healthier than this! And as a mentor and as someone who strives to make people around me turn to art, this honestly shocks me and makes me want to do something about it. We need to protecc the art babies! Thanks for spilling the tea sis', I appreciate your channel (and your BG3 art dkflgjhk), found you a few days ago and love your energy! 🤗🥰
I had to delete my older posts on my instagram because they weren’t “good enough” or “up to par” and it put me off posting for ages, iv now started becoming more active but back then it was mentally draining, and because of this I always try to show love to beginners that I come across as I know I was at that point too and wished I had someone to encourage me💜✨
i dont know why people feel so entitled to give criticism to someone that never asked for it. let people do what makes them happy. how miserable do you have to be to actively bring someone down for trying their best?
I'm not a novice artist, but I'm just starting to look for an audience and develop my social networks. And to see how my cool drawings sometimes don't get any attention when I spent 2 days on them is also unpleasant in its own way.
12:00 EXCUSE MEEE YOURE ROMANIAN??((or from Moldova that's also possible) seeing someone from my country be kindaaa popular, be funny and also be good at art is CRAZYYYY!!!!
it makes me sad that this is happening to the art community. back in 2016-17 when i first started posting my (not so great) art, there were lots of forum threads on deviantart where you could get critiques (or help if you're struggling with a pose/head angle or smt) from actual professional artists, and they were so nice about it too😞 idk if it still exists tho, I'd recommend starting there if it does
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In the age of AI generated images, I don't care if someone draws like a 3 year old. I will shower them with encouragement because at least they're willing to try it themselves. Even the least skilled artist still gets my respect. Artists need to stop being hard on themselves and other beginners, especially now
agreed!!!
Agree! I used to never care about less skilled artist, but now with AI, I suddenly have so much respect for new artists.
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and art is just really grueling at times at every level. each person has their own obstacles to deal with during their art journey, and it’s admirable when they try to get through them
I hope more people start to feel that way. I switched from AI Art -> Art community and brought a bunch of my followers with me but then one messaged me so distraught because they were being mocked for their beginning art skills and switched back to AI 🥺
This! I’ve been helping my sister out and giving her tips with her art, no matter how bad I think it looks. It makes her super happy and I love to see that.
The art community is already at its worse state of life 😭
L E G I T 💀
i think its mostly twitter and tiktok. i just stay on long form yt for any art content and get a pretty safe community of people.
Dw it’s just a phase lol
@@tophbeifongg i hope it is
@@pabcakeh same, i prett ymuch abandon twitter and tiktok for anything art related bc there's always drama or rules or whatever, i only use insta for art inspiration-- id like to say ever since quarantine happened people have gotten too far stuck online in social media and dont know how to be kind anymore.
I feel like people who make fun of beginners dont even do art themselves or worse, its the insecure artists doing it
On DA, I also have seen AI users making fun of beginners
@@nobody-nk8pd The absolute audacity 💀. Are they not embarrazzed?
@@GreySeashell-j3mAI users who mask AI art as hand drawn art are already so insecure to begin with rippppp
🤧 it’s mostly the non artists from what I view, and I do see a lot of insecure artists criticizing beginners.. a lot
There's tons of insecure artists on the internet (especially Twitter) calling themselves "professional" while they have mental breakdowns over not making their rent because they refuse to behave professionally and deliver their commissions on time.
The art community when artists aren't immediately god level at art👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😠😠😠😠😠
It makes me so sad bc I wanna post my art on social media but I'm afraid I'll get harassed like the other artists :(
@strangeaelurus go ahead and do it, getting harassed for your art sucks and it's intimidating as hell, but most people being genuinely mean instead of giving constructive criticism actually have no idea what they are talking about, and will often just pull things to whinge about out of their asses. It sucks to deal with them, but don't let them stop you from posting your art. There are still so many wonderful people who will encourage you and enjoy seeing you improve ❤
And even if an artist WAS immediately, magically god level at art... artists would be pissed at that too!!
Let's be honest, in my experince most of theese people will see renaissance masterpieces and not actually know or appreciate their value
Lot of people who just don't actually know what they are talking about and even worse use their perceived sense of superiority as a justification to bully kids (many of which seem to actually be experimenting and showing actual attempts at understanding what works and what does not)
At the end of the day there are alot of rude people in the world
I don't think that's even possible really.Not even the best artists can instantly draw a ''perfect'' piece.
tiktok is the meanest social media platform i’ve ever had the displeasure of using, like i’ve never seen hate not just normalised but celebrated like it is there
tiktok is where shy insecure people go to take out their anger on everyone else instead of going to therapy
Including Twitter. It's because my friend artist when she posted her art of an adult fictional character in NSFW, people start receiving her hate, so she deleted it. I felt so bad for her :((
I mean sure all sorts of social medias have it’s big numbers in toxicity but GOOD BABY JESUS TikTok is on a completely different level. Not just people normalizing bullying or racism, but even the most IMORAL things anyone could imagine. If it ever got banned from the web as a whole I’d honestly enjoy the internet a bit more.
Twitter is the worsr one I'm sorry idc
@@LangkeeLongkee idk on twitter if i see someone post an innocuous tutorial video i don’t expect the most liked reply to be flat out calling them ugly
As a beginner artist on the internet, it is indeed a mental health hazard- because people making fun of you and giving 'criticism' can lead to mental issues, or just in general some self doubt and insecurities. Especially when the beginner artist is a child, because their brain isn't fully developed yet, and it could lead to serious mental issues. But basically, what I'm trying to say is please don't leave hate comments on beginner artist's art, or any artist's art, not just because it's extremely rude, but because it could hurt that person more than you know.
I have been drawing for 4 years and I am learning Sonic and My Little Pony art
I love supporting new artists, everyone should welcome new artists to the community
@@quit3118 We appreciate you, and also I agree, everybody should be welcoming to new artists, no matter if they have a decent art style or not!
Honestly idk if it's even safe for children to post art online
@@flask223 tbh yeah it's not safe, but you can't really stop them if they're on the internet already, so ig you might as well just support them or just let them know that they probably shouldn't be on the internet, if anything
my absolute favourite thing to do is to hype up and support beginner artists, art can already be challenging itself, so encouragement and support would help them in the long run. Plus, all those artists that makes masterpieces starts out as beginner themselves. Beginner aritsts have potentials, HUGE potentiomals, it sucks that people who make fun of them and bully them always fail to see it.
"they opened themselves up for criticism" just because someone left the door open, doesn't mean you have to go through it and shit on their carpet!
That is quite a colourful analogy. A bit... brown, even.
Facts!
it's a garbage attitude.
YOUNG ARTISTS LOOK AT THEIR GROWTH NUMBERS TOO MUCH INSTEAD OF ENJOYING MAKING ART 👏👏
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@@jumboo6067?
Can agree, I’m still learning but I have to get off that mindset of worrying about likes
Oof, totally agree, been one of those young artists myself. Too impatient to learn and try to improve and trying to keep the content coming as often as possible to please the algorithm, I ended up burning out and rn doing art for myself without posting anywhere.
As additionaly an ao3 writer, I wish my attitude towards art was the same as towards writing stories (I write both fanfics and originals). I write stories based on ideas I get in order not have to keep them all in my head, and then I post them on ao3 in order not to take storage space or create mess on my device, and also because I don't mind sharing with others. But I don't care much if noone sees them. Even of there are zero hits, fine by me. Why do I only have this attitude when it comes to writing? And funnily enough, I even post on ao3 so rarely so I don't have a big feedback history. Yet I still don't care (though I wouldn't like it either way if someone started shitting on any of my works, but the way I treat unpopularity alone is still so different from one form of content to another)
I saw this person who showed their art progression over a couple of years. She was probably somewhere between eight and eleven years old, so her art was obviously not absolutely amazing and perfect in every single way. So because her art wasn't perfect, people in the comments section told this kid to stop drawing and give up. Because THEY didn't like her art. How fucking embarassing.
OH MY GOD?? AN EIGHT YEAR OLD?! What is wrong with people...
What a bunch of jerks....
these people are either non artists or because their ego is so high in the clouds they forget even THEY were at this point in their life, especially even at young ages too. no one is born out of the womb with a big ass paintbrush and a canvas that has a freshly painted mona lisa on it.
I really hope that doesn’t stop her from making art. :( This is why social media sites/apps ask that you must be at least 13 years old or older to use it because there are a bunch of awful assholes and creeps online.
@@Lazy-Oddity Even kids older than 13 become insecure D:
my friend posted her art on tiktok once and got trashed on so fast and deleted the post. i felt terribly bad for her. her drawing was really good too :( my advice to beginner artists is find people who will hype up your art as well as give you valid criticism, just posting on the internet isnt going to get much positive feedback 🤷♀️
I felt bad that no one commented on my post but I feel like it’s better to get no comments then hate comments
My advice is just don't use tiktok, or instagram. Pretty nasty apps
im so sorry that happened to your friend :(
Tiktok is the worst place for a beginner artist bcz all the people there don't care about shit and give unnecessary hate without understanding a person's mentality
@@pinkalora What do you think a good platform would be then? (genuine question)
im really glad ive never posted my art publicly… ive had friends criticize my art without me asking and it sucks. cant imagine what its like being criticized and hated on by a bunch of people
agreed!! my friends called my art ugly in my early art stages and ruined my image D: ( im better now, still insecure a little though haha )
@@cashback3293 have a good day
@@cashback3293 its always so terrible when friends do it… but luckily it pushed me to improve and practice more!!
sameee my cousin constantly calls it ugly and it’s gone to the point where i don’t dare to show my art :( i already can’t imagine posting my art online and getting so much hate for it D:
My friend literally called my art the ugliest thing she had ever seen and not in a sarcastic way and it really hurt, but she literally showed me traced art and had the audacity to say that it’s hers and original. I don’t understand this.
I’m an older beginner(16) and I’m absolutely terrified of posting any of my art anywhere because of all this. Also, I feel like I’m going to get a lot of hate for not being able to draw well “for my age”
I miss when I was able to just enjoy drawing without caring abt what others thought.
Tysm for all the advice and encouragement! Y’all are so sweet
I'm 30 and started getting into art when I was in my 20's. I made an Instagram about 4 years ago and I'm very fortunate that I haven't received any negative comments, but I know that's not the case for everyone. No matter where you are on your art journey, keep creating and try not to let others stop you. (:
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@@elviar.910 ty and good luck on your art journey as well! Honestly it’s super hard not to compare myself to people my age or younger that can draw better, but I know we all have different starting points. I’ve been taking drawing seriously for 8 months now, and I think I’m really improving so far! It’s rlly important not to get so caught up in what random strangers online might think.
I totally get that!! I'm 18 and have been drawing since I was 4, but I got insecure of posting my art because no one in my family every appreciated it. Posting on insta was nice, but on reddit I got made fun of so much. From a young age I thought because no one appreciated my work, that it was bad, and I was worse than what 'an average artist' of my age could draw (also there's no such thing, every artist gets better with time and how they understand things).
But the biggest motivation now is, doing it for myself, I love seeing my own journey and improvement when I post!! Don't let the number of likes or anything stop you, it doesn't prove your worth, what matters is that you keep going and keep drawing, and in time you'll be happy with your art journey!!
Just don’t post it on tik tok and Twitter. Usually people are more supportive on insta!!
It’s sad how some underrated artists only get noticed because of a mistake they made.
I feel like this truly started with those "DeviantArt cringe" videos. Like those videos were just rude to be rude. Artists online over the years have progressed but only in certain demographics. But over the past like 7ish years the need for younger artists (10-17) to be the very best has just gotten worse. I think its especially bad when adult artists hate themselves over it as well. Its not as horrible as before but its still bad (imo).
Grown adults when a 13-year-old can't draw as good as Leonardo Da Vinci: >:(
It's wild, because even the DeviantART cringe videos from people like SolarSands and stuff tend to tell people not to send hate to anybody in the video. Not gonna hurt less when you see your art in there if you didn’t directly submit it yourself, but at least it's an acknowledgement that mobbing the artists with mean comments is bad. It isn't enough, of course. They really did normalize this.
Animation meme cringe compilations and "insert character" fangirls flipaclip cringe compilations also started thiss
I remember ppl getting so mad for someone using the circle tool😭
@@Jazker_da_thiefomg same. I think all the “how to not make a Mary sue” content didn’t help either
I remember that I used to be in such a sweet and caring art community. We would stand together against tracers and shine light on small creators. We would hold contests and do collaborations ect… So sad that this is what the majority of the art community has become.
Art community has always been a bit shit though, people just forget about DevientArt hell and people being bullied over closed species and that one phase of "If you make fan OCs you're cringe"
@@KATtube03absolutely. we really could go without having "art cringe" videos again, ig tiktok has kind of sensasionalized the bad stuff
It is shittier though, and I was talking about a specific drawing community I was in
I've been around art communities since flipnote hatena was around in 2008-2013 and it's just sad how stale and shallow we've become :/
@@KATtube03It reminds me of the gacha community when people say “I miss the old gacha community!” when it was not any better
“how dare a new artist develop their art style instead of instantly doing it the way i like it”
-twitter art community
worst feeling is seeing actual artists hating on beginner artists like just because youre past that beginner phase doesnt mean youre suddenly an art god and everyone is below you 😭😭😭 as an artist ive been encouraged by non artists to hate on beginner artists and i just dont want to take part in that because its disgusting and no one deserves that...... i really have to know what argument these haters have for doing this
croaket's situation makes me want to cry. its just pure cruelty. if i was exposed to that amount of vitriol as a minor I may never have made art again. they're so strong for continuing to draw and to share their work in spite of what they've been through and continue to go through. and i personally love the way they draw, even before they improved significantly. the art style is unique and charming, and it hurts my soul when people mock different art styles. i get rude comments on my art style on reddit that really shake me sometimes. and, if I posted it there, I almost certainly would get worse comments on tiktok. we all need to be less ready to make fun of each other because we all forgot the word cyberbullying exists.
and then they accused them of being r@cist but failed to provide any evidence….
When I was about twelve I followed a couple of artists on twitter and started posting art on there too in hopes of one day being like them. Long story short one of my tweets got to their circle and they started commenting things like "people like this have the nerve to call themselves artists" or "I know 5th graders who are better artists then them" (I was literally in 5th grade myself) It was awful to say the least, cause I got attacked by the very people I looked up to
I don't post my art online anymore, but the story has a good ending as I got into my dream art uni this year and won't be giving up on art any time soon :P
Good for you! Glad you’re doing better!
Hope you get the best grades in university:D!
CONGRATS :DDD
title is so true, the social media-ification of art is so harmful to young artists
Thanks so much for validating not taking art “seriously”, i.e. not making a career out of it. I have insane respect for people who do art as a career but I’ve been drawing for fun my entire life and I think people don’t like my art as much as my friends who draw as more than a pastime. I love drawing but that’s not the only thing I like to do, and I feel like people dislike my art more because of that tbh
People let capitalism take over and took the myth of "doing what you love and you never have to work" too seriously tbh that they think everything should be "to pay the bills" and not for actual love of the craft.
fun fact: the artist croaket aka "rendering process :]" at 10:14 is in the same school and art class as me and guess what! they've improved so much and got into AP as a freaking sophomore while everyone else were juniors and seniors. they're also hella cool!
The art community when a 9 year old artist’s painting isn’t perfect down to the slightest atom of paint shifted slightly to the left😨😨😨😱😱😱😱😡😡😡
As a beginner artist this is so touching, even though I didn’t get any hate yet this kinda just lifted my spirit you know? It made me feel better about myself and my drawings, it made me be able to tell myself that my drawings don’t have to be the top best also, this gave me a better way to respond to hate and negativity.
Thank you
Sad that this is still an issue in the art community. I remember people talking bad about my art on deviantart 15 years ago and that ruined my ability to post art without caring what people will think as a kid.
as a young artist i am so glad that when i first came on the internet to post my art people were wayyy nicer than what i see they are like to other younger artists nowadays 😭😭
but it also saddens me that the community has gotten so much more hateful than it (in my eyes) used to be.
sameee everyone used to be so helpful😭 i felt like my beginner art was a lot less shitty than it actually was hahaha
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i remember deviantart golden age back in ~2016, no matted how bad my art was being a literal child posting on the site never garnered any hate, in fact i even got compliments for horrendous art and small commissions as well, like seriously it was so positive
To all beginner artists i really recommend not posting on any toxic social media platforms (i mean they all are but just domt go on super toxic ones) tiktok mag be good for you to get rips but you will face lots of criticism whuch may be unneeded but, just stay giid keep practising and yeah :)
I’m on Tublur and Artfol, I did plan to go on Tiktok but I don’t know
tumblr is decent because its not focussed on views/reach, and you can appeal to the specific people you want to. like when i first started doing fanart (it wasnt too bad but like also yikes lmao) and despite the art being not good, people in that more niche community tend to be more encouraging
@@bellac6311 I downloaded it yesterday
Looking forward to try it again
Pinterest is the most calmest platform but it steals from artists a lot so you gotta put a watermark on your art
I feel like there's no such thing as "bad art" or "wrong art" in the art community. You can't tell somebody to draw a head or hands or eye's a certain way. Every artist has a art syle & it's there's. Every one's art is beautiful. That's what makes art, art.
Wait until you see my “art” and I think you’ll change your mind
I disagree, art from pedos, lolicons, shoatacons, and proshippers are the worst f☆☆king art I've ever seen.
@@Cyyruzz not that type of art tho lmaoo😂I understand what u mean
@@sedationn ohhh ok
there's a difference between a specific style (which only good artists can have, btw not shitty 12 year olds on tiktok) and just being shit at art
I am a pretty young artist and I’m always so scared of people just openly criticizing my art or making fun of it, I’m glad I rarely see artists like myself getting hate on TH-cam though
Art is always gonna be imperfect. No matter how skilled you are, you should enjoy the process.
Few days ago. In Facebook group. There was a kid that posted a traced art. It was so bad that you could tell it wasn't adult doing it. The art got reposted to "expose" them. After that people started to harass the kid even his friend and family got into this. They started Posting their personal and their friends and family info online for some reason. People need to calm down. I understand that we as artists want give "justice". Because we don't get as much. But that's doesn't mean we have to be a low community that go after beginners and kids. Or just attack people for their style "if it was not problematic ". And in the end of the day it's art. It's supposed to be a hobby. a fun thing. before it's a job or something. Not everyone want to be a professional artist. leave people alone. That is kinda disgusting. Do better if you are like that. Anyways great vid thank you for saying that. I was getting tired of the tiktok videos of . "OUR ART LORE TODAY IS..". Just shut up❤.
I've been drawing for 12 years (almost my entire life) and haven’t stopped. I stop by some art communities once in a while to share my art with others of my interests and original characters. It was fun until at one point I was bashed for my art. At the time I was mainly drawing FNAF content since that was my obsession at the time and it made me happy. After being bashed it made me want to give up on art entirely. I didn’t feel motivated to pick up my pencil. The feeling was unforgettable, and I don’t want to see just now beginning artist to go through what I have, and would rather see them grow into making their own works in their own style and own way instead of being insulted.
I hate how high standards are set for artists now. Those who have just begun are expected to pump out god-tier art. That's not how it works, you have to let them find out their own style their own way. They're allowed to follow tutorials to find their style and whatever. What matters most is the style they grow to like. It's what makes them happy and proud their works the true work of art
God, TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!! As someone who started using the internet fairly young, i was THERE when all the cringe culture stuff was at its peak and it really did a number on me mentally; ESPECIALLY since i was just starting to do digital art at the time. Honestly i wouldn't wish what i went through on ANYONE! It breaks my heart that so many people are so cruel to young/beginner artists even now, we really need to do better...
For the first time in my life I didn't skip a sponsor section in a video just because of how much I love your voice
it kills me seeing young artists being made fun of or being discouraged from making art just because they're beginners. my art was made fun of when i was in middle school, and it affected me badly. even now, over ten years later, i struggle to have confidence in my art. i really want to do art as a career, but at the same time, i'm terrified to show people my art. every time i do try showing someone, my body trembles and i get nauseous.
not just that, but it killed my motivation. i quit drawing for two years in high school. i was too hurt to draw. i still struggle tbh. i don't draw as much as i want to because the fear of making "bad" art controls me.
please be kind and encouraging to new artists. everyone starts somewhere. in time they will improve.
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Even as an experienced artist I rarely post on social media, the art community is so toxic at this point I’ve given up. To all beginner artists, don’t feel pressured to post your art all the time!! Not everyone is built for it, and you’re just as much of an artist as everyone who’s active online ❤
Its the same with the skating community. We call beginners posers and act like we were never beginner skaters ourselves.
for everyone in the comment section being like "the art community used to be so much more accepting of begginners", do you guys don't remember the "cringe compilations" ? or the harasment of children for making "too repetitive" animation meme ? i'm glad we're past that, but sad we're still harassing people who are having fun on another plateform. The original "rendering process" dude (i forgot they name) didn't even do something bad, i actually like the piece, the palette is nice to look at, the hair look fluffy, they definitely have skills.
Thanks for the video! I remembered when I was a pre - teen/ teen there was a large community of novice art haters so they formed a group in the most popular social network of my home country and went nuts. They made fun of literally everyone who even dared to draw something. Of course, they didn't criticize, they wanted to feel power, so they usually went for the arter`s persona and harrased them, sometimes even doxxed. Their favourite catchphrase was "If you can't draw, don't show it". The main leaders were two grown ass artists, who encouraged every member to keep being like that in terms of "making art community better".
So many young artists stopped publishing their works, and even more were severely traumatized. I can't imagine what they felt. Personally, I was so scared, that I decided to stop showing my art at all and this eventually led to my skill regression.
Times passed, and I'm so so so pissed to hear that things didn't change much. That's beyond sad.
And if anyone wonders what happened to that group, someone tried to sue them, so main leaders quickly closed the group, and now they try to get their popularity despite everything. I think they even have a TH-cam channel, and do things there like nothing happened
I’m glad people are talking about this, I want to post my art but bc of all of this shit I get too scared to post it cuz I know I’m just gonna get bullied so seeing somebody like you speaking about it makes me feel a bit better about my art skills. I feel so bad for the people who got made fun of this kinda shit ☹️
There's this beginner artist on insta who's getting flamed for their art and accused of getting pity follow. Idk if it's true but thr fact that they're willing to share their ideas is great
I hope all beginner artists would improve greatly through the years and continue supporting the next wave of beginner artists
Genuinely as a experienced artist it's sad to see the same ppl as me drag down and bully young artist online acting like they weren't there themselves, let's be for real anatomy is hard nor easy at all, instead of them helping them and leading them into the right direction they bully and drag down ppls creativity and confidence, I'm so sorry for anyone who's been through or is even scared of Posting their art u should never ever be put in that position or feel that way, don't let these ppl drag u down for whatever hobby or enjoyment u have.
As an artist who had been my art being told ugly and I can't make friends with the people who have pretty art styles just because I didn't know how to act as a minor, it really hurts to be a beginner. Beauty is all people care about and that's why im here to defend them
back in my day, "art lore" would be Crystali getting arrested.
This kind of thing has been happening since the times of "Deviant Art Cringe" channels and it's quite unfortunate that we let this part of art community culture to continue and affect the newer generation of artists.
In my 7 years of posting art online (and im only 18), tiktok was the ONLY place i had to deal with mean comments, not constructive but straight up mean ccomment, and it was only this year which is actually insane in 7yrs of being online. I remember on deviant art when whatever you posted, whatever your level or the themes of ur art, there would always be someone to genuinely like and comment ur art!!!! I think its non artist that often like to be mean, as the art community as became more "open".
Anyways ppl if u read this, please encourage young artists and beginner artists, its not that hard and can really change a lot of things for them, maybe becausr of u and ur kind comment they will continue drawing!!
The thing is, this stuff can affect someone for their entire life. I never got art hate when I was younger myself, but simple from watching it happen to others, it got this idea on my head that "My art has to be better/perfect or they would get mad at me as well" That I would be hated and on one would ever love and appreciate my art. And that feeling is still there in my head to this day, making it hard for me to accept the imperfections in my art and making me improve, because it has to be perfect, otherwise it's not worth anything. Even art I'm proud of turns into "It could have been so much better" the moment I share it with someone. I can't even begin to imagine how bad it must feel to have an adult treat you (a child) that way.
I couldn't tell why I found your strong accent so soothing and intelligible then I hear you speak my native language and it all clicked! keep up the good work Rin^^
It feels like many people who are mean about art don’t love art. Like, learning anatomy is good, and it makes you realize how suspiciously, uh, stylized some art looks. However, there is a big difference between accidental and intentional, and the accident can also look good! “There are no mistakes, only happy little accidents.” - Bob Ross (i think).
Now, my tip, as someone who as switched from drawing to writing but loves art, is to simply try. You make art for your own enjoyment. As an expression of yourself. If you are unhappy about getting hung up on little details, say “f+ck it”, take a new sheet of paper and draw something exaggerated. Make the proportions wonky, the arms and legs too long, the face distorted, the eyes hyper realistic and the body only a rough sketch - it can be so much fun to just go for it. Your art probably won’t look the way you imagined, but that is fine. I drew since I could hold a pen and continued to do so for ten years, I got better with lots of practice and never stopping. I tried different styles, going from rough to detailed, and I liked it.
Art is subjective, style is not supposed to be realistic, and deliberately confronting yourself with the things you hate and dislike (by disliking it and leaving hate comments) is senseless. How many now famous artists had their art sneered at, barely making a living wage with it, yet now basically the entire world knows them? And there are many famous hobby artists, too.
And style and preferences can change. For example, I hated classical music as a child because my sensory system was completely overstimulated by the many sounds stacked over each other, but now I’ve come to like it. Though I quite dislike Mozart - heard one, heard them all, and the more I know about the guy the more I dislike him. Same with Picasso, where I even have the dumb story of walking into my school’s art classroom, seeing a painting placed by the teacher’s desk and going “I could’ve done that better”. That was the copy of a Picasso painting.
It’s a good thing I’m not on tiktok, it would drive me up the wall.
Thank you for reading this long comment, and I hope that whoever made it this far will feel encouraged by this community Rin has built. Kindness is precious, and happy thoughts make happy words make happy actions make happy experiences. I know it’s hard, and so, so difficult, but you have to believe that the future is worth it.
Have a nice day, and think positively!
Hey, I have been on the internet for 11 years now! and it’s really sad seeing beginner artist get lots of hate for their artwork. Like it’s really saddening. I remember back in 2021, was harassing my drawing in a drawing game, he said that I should get better and their were other people in the server and he was saying stuff that really hurt me, he kept like vote kicking me and some people were standing up for me, but I guess I got kicked and I just didn’t come online the next day because I was crying all night. But I have improved so much now, I like drawing horror movie fan art and my own OC’s as well . Aaa Sorry for long life story . I was nervous posting this story. Here’s two more things, I was inspired to draw again because I saw a few horror movie fan art back in 2021. Second thing, Do Not Harass Beginners it can affect them in mental ways and it hurts. By a random person.
I’m more of a novice artist but I grew up on the internet. You get tough skin from it but not everyone is like that. I’ve come a very long way in my art journey. And I definitely didn’t get here by being “criticized” on the internet. People need to leave these kids alone and have fun. Having fun is part of improving
Once i was scrolling throught tiktok and found an acount of a begginer artist sharing their process, and for the way they wrote and talked and expressed they were so obviously like 10 yo. And the coments... 💀 God the coments were being so fcking mean and awfull 💀
Fr I hate ppl 💀
I used to have a tiktok when I was like 12 where I posted my beginner art and I had so many comments just flaming the way a drew and calling it ugly. Like was it the most professional art ever? Obviously not, I was 12. But their comments were literally doing nothing to help and just made me delete my account and stop drawing for like a year. That was like a whole year of progress I lost. Man fuck tiktok lmao
@@bonkdonk297 omg💀
@@bonkdonk297dude that sucks, sorry you had to see the reptilian side of tiktok
man i'm so glad i had the space and time to be arrogant about my art as a beginner without getting hate for it. it's a part of growing as an artist to realize that you've got a lot of improving to do and to humble yourself. getting completely trashed by other artists to the point of giving up makes that step impossible.
to all the new artists out there: you've made leaps and bounds since you first picked up a drawing tool and you deserve to be proud of that. don't let that pride keep you from learning more, but don't let criticism do it either.
fr, im only 13 and some guy thought it would be a good idea to "fix my art" when i literally didn't ask for it 💀
th-cam.com/users/shortsnE3YH97UGCU?si=6Yv7tn9Xi0iwoDmg the video i was talking about lol
I got into posting my art online when I was 11 and yeah that was hard. Since I was immature and completely clueless to some stuff, I had a lot of people bully/harass me. When I see a kid saying wrong stuff i either ignore it or calmly explain to them the situation. At that age, they believe that they truly do know everything. I also did. It’s natural for them to act that way.
I mean, posting art online as a kid was both horrific and really blissful for me. It was nice because I could build a community and be motivated to draw more and improve myself. But it was bad because I said and did stupid stuff and even if I didn’t, I got bullied really hard. Even the slightest comment could immensely affect a child’s mood. It’s a very tricky area.
Ikr bruh I see like “keep that talent hidden” like it’s so rude
The fact that this isn’t a new issue is just sad. I remember watching “cringe animation meme” compilations and it really took a toll on my art. I looked at my art and couldn’t enjoy it because it looked similar to the art on those compilations. Thankfully I’ve grown out of that mindset but it’s sad seeing people bully beginners because of their art.
yk this recent spike in toxicity in the community made me realize how lucky i was as a beginner artist in like 2019. i was getting nothing but support from the other artists around me, if i recieved any sort of bullying i would've probably quit 💀 especially cause i was on mf amino, like, nothing good came out of that app but at least i never got bullied for my art
Art lore was funny at first, then it became making fun of beginner artist and no one saw the problem with it. The art community has probably one of the most toxic people but the most caring people at the same tome
My dumbass thought art lore was just making up random lore about like your OCs or yourself as the artist and then expressing it as art like a doodle or somethin'. . .
Man, I was way off!
I feel sad for a lot of new artists, seeing all this go on with young artists who are just starting their art reminds me of how anxious I got to be when I was posting my art as a beginner artist myself in 2016. I try my best to support my art friends with their art as they grow with it, and I love sharing videos I find helpful in improving art. It is also just as sad seeing some of my art friends being terrified of posting their art online and then tearing themselves down because their art is bad so says some random person hating on another young artist or not being able to do what they want to do in art instantly. it's like a vicious cycle :(
that's why I told the teens on the game site I play at (all ages and up, therefore kids are on it too) not to make an art tiktok. they naively think turning off comments will solve the problem.
im 16 and I only really got into drawing hardcore serious human rendering, artystyles and hairs. I often feel really really discouraged since Im not a 13 year old prodigy and I always am worried I'll never be able to improve. I am part of some small friend art communities but we're all still some form of beginner and sharing out in the open isnt a good option since, well the art community now is more toxic than an oil spill :(
so yeah struggle is really really big. If anyone has suggestions on people who share good tips or videos about coloring/anatomy learning things id appreciate it :D
(btw I love your voice so much its so pretty)
Its so saddening to see how toxic and aggressive the art community is now. I remember when i first started posting my art and animations to the internet. They were pretty bad, choppy frames, sloppy line art, weird anatomy. But so many people commented how much potential i had and how impressed they were and how if i kept practicing id become something great. Without those comments i wouldve stopped art all together. If i had started now im sure i wouldnt have kept going. Its depressing to see what was once a super happy, supportive, and encouraging community turn into a hellhole of hate and toxicity
I’ve always wanted to post my art online, but I don’t think I could handle the potential criticism or hate mobs. I’ve shown my “friends” my art in the past, and they’ve laughed at it. I wanted to give up and just fit in. One even went as far as ripping my drawing, mistaking it for a classmate of the same name. I swore to myself that I would become a professional artist and then share it just not to be ridiculed, but now that I’m older, I think that’s ridiculous. I don’t need a hug box, but I also don’t want my ideas to die with me. I feel like cringe culture really messed with a lot of people. I can barely find myself using terms like “OC” or “persona” without feeling like a total outcast. Fortunately, my boyfriend has been supportive of my passions, and I actually look forward to sharing any new thing I make with him.
My advice is to find someone who appreciates you and to distance yourself from people who tear you down. There’s a difference between keeping it real and trying to belittle you as a conversation starter.
Another thing art is hard, but it’s something we do because we love doing it. Don’t let some rando scare you from expressing yourself in the best way you know how. You’ll get better but try to enjoy your journey along the way, y’know. 💖
Rin, Your tutorials helped me so much. I appreciate you so much, pls keep going, you are doing good!
This is the same energy as those art TH-camrs back in 2015 who would give unsolicited "critiques" of kid's art on DeviantArt or Amino and it's honestly so tired and pointless. It's all the more disappointing when it comes from other artists too, like we all didn't go through lows in our art journeys.
I remember back in 2016 I was like 12 and started posting my art to Instagram and other art platforms only to be bullied and laughed at … like I was a 12 year old who just got into color pencil art
I just started having the courage to post my drawings online this week, seeing this vid title made me scared I thought u were living in my walls😭😭
The art at 5:50 doesn't even look bad. I think the anime proportions give the video a modern ironic charm. People just take things too seriously sometimes cuz they wanna dunk on it.
honestly, i also think it's because a lot of social media is not artist friendly - it's not easy for artists to find new artist and etc. :'D
Every time I find a beginner artist online who's brave enough to post I go into the comments to point out every good thing they did in the drawing. Because if a drawing is good enough you can recognize what they're drawing, then it means they must've done SOMETHING right. So there is always a way to boost them up. It's not really about helping them improve for me with what I say, but giving them the confidence to keep trying to improve. That's more important for their growth than any criticism I could ever give.
I love her accent so much it reminds me of my family members who are fluent in our native language and are not the best at English, I could listen her for hours(and I will lol)
I've been drawing all my life, and I remember when I first posted my work when I was just a lil kiddo on instagram. People were so much more supportive back then??? My art was what you'd expect for an 11 year old, but people were nice. I don't post my work anymore nowadays mostly because of all the negative stuff I've been seeing around. It genuinely scares me :( I really do miss the days where my friends and I would just support each other by commenting on each others posts and sharing them. Also, there is a line between constructive criticism and straight up bullying. I would 100% ask for criticism from my friends and they would give me actual advice and I'd take it. What's been happening lately is rarely even constructive criticism and it hurts to see how younger artists are getting discouraged by all the negativity they get blasted with just because their art isn't super good out of the gate.
7:59 This is also such a meta commentary for Kooleen's "apology" LMAO
Also thank you for shedding light on this issue ♥️
It’s “art lore” and “cuteness overload”. I swear I get so mad when I see it on posts of people just drawing or anything else. Maybe someone’s makeup, maybe someone’s clothes. Heck maybe someone’s face. It’s insensitive and people need to realize when enough is enough. Cybering bullying is laughed at by users, but it’s a very real thing.
I found about your videos a while ago and I'm enjoying all of them! It's great to find a content creator and artist like you, who talks their mind without making fun of others and actually helps immature artists instead of making them feel incompetent and worthless! I hope more people can find your videos
the way you have the same humor and slang as me and my girly gay friends gets me so excited to watch your videos. its like having a conversation with a bestie but none of my girly pop friends are art girly pop friends so i appreciate you and get your money honey!
I just found your channel and I already love your personality
I truly sometimes dont understand how the first thing someone could think of when seeing a beginner artist or a artstyle they dont like is to bully them. Like how?? Why do so many people think this is okay? These people suck so much im rly sryy to all the kids and people and in general who were affected by this stuff :(
even though im not a beginner artist im always scared to post my art anywhere because of this
I must say, I love your art and I never imagined you would be Romanian too (i think) just wanna say that your art and sense of humor brought me here, and now Im just giddy 😂😂😂 keep up the good work.
With sincerity
One of your fans :)))🎉
And this is why I am firmly against the idea that "you need criticism to improve!" because it's mostly used to treat people like shit for the crime of not being perfect and make people feel untitled to impose shitty advice on artists that never asked for it.
Even if they do need to improve, why do you think you will be the only way for them to do so? If they directly asked the help that is different, but if not, you don't have to say shit. Even if they never improve either, how does that affect you? Just let people do what makes them happy and if they make better art, I promise you, it won't be because of you, but rather because of their own hard work.
Critique is very specific and tailored for the artist! It keeps the artist’s original goals in mind! It keeps their art level in mind too! Like, a-lot of this off the cuff critique is stuff that the artist already knows about or will naturally improve out of.
One thing I hate the online art community is that they get pissed off when other artist are confident with their work. This is especially true when it comes to confident beginning artists. I got in a argument with a lot of TikTok artists because I said not everyone has to take the compliment you give them. Because if I know I’m good at something I’m going to tell you “ I know.” Because I know. I’m not a self deprecating artist and I can’t stand self deprecating artist. Even if my skill level is not high I’m still confident with my art, and my skill level will only grow.
I am very fortunate that I didn’t start taking my art online until I became confident within my skills, like when I got online and started posting my work I wasn’t good but I wasn’t going to let some random stranger on the internet tell me otherwise. Now on the internet it’s hard to find artist that aren’t getting by without shitting on their work while making it. If you have any ounce of self apperception or confidence you immediately get attacked for it. Like huh?!
pls tell me you don’t say “I know” to compliments like “Your colour choice is great” or “I love how you drew this, the lines are so clean!” from strangers😭
those are usually just people who admire your skill and think ur art is nice, not people who are trying to degrade you and dump on your art
There’s confidence, and then there’s overconfidence. yes, you are not contractually obligated to take a compliment but like… they’re just tryna spread the positivity 💀
@kat5418 of course not. If people give me or other people those compliments I of course know and do say thank you. I'm just saying on perspective of artist needing others validation to consider themselves good on that that certain thing. For example, if I know I'm good, your compliment is literally just a compliment to me because I know I'm good. I think people value feedback and validation to much when it comes to art, which I'm not saying is a bad thing but you are your biggest supporter so if you aren't supporting and seeing your own value in your work without those people what's the point?
@kat5418 and I really want to know what's the problem people have with overconfidence? Every time I brought this point up, other people also said it's good to not to be cocky with your work. I feel like as long as that individual can see what they need to work on to better their work, why is overconfidence an issue?
@@ArtWithAWaddlepersonally i try to avoid overconfidence because it can lead into putting down other people (who might not have any confidence at all) - for example, those tiktoks rin showed at the beginning of their video with people putting down the artwork of their classmates. judgment and mistreatment of others is a symptom of overconfidence.
i think it's normal for young kids to be overconfident, but they gotta grow out of it before they hurt someone with their arrogance. that's just my opinion though
it’s sad cause people r so mean 🙁
jeez that creak at 3:51 scared the shit out of me
Also the whole talk about "arrogance" kills me 💀🫠
People don't know what that means, and will punch people down for the slightest moments of them expressing pride on themselves or positive self-esteem. Which is even worse bc they are all just kids 🫠🫠🫠
it was good that as a kid i wasn't on social media neither was anyone else. i was considered art kid of the class and people in family praised my art which got me thinking i was good artist lol. and i didn't even know what anatomy, perspective etc meant in art at the time. so in the beginning stages keeping away from social media is important so that you can progress at your own pace without hurting self-confidence along the way.
I'm a bit more than halfway throughout your video and my blood is already boiling. I pictured the art community a lot healthier than this! And as a mentor and as someone who strives to make people around me turn to art, this honestly shocks me and makes me want to do something about it. We need to protecc the art babies!
Thanks for spilling the tea sis', I appreciate your channel (and your BG3 art dkflgjhk), found you a few days ago and love your energy! 🤗🥰
Congrats on the new subscribers 🎉🎈 you go girl ❤️😍😍
And congrats on the first sponsor too 😌😌❤️
I had to delete my older posts on my instagram because they weren’t “good enough” or “up to par” and it put me off posting for ages, iv now started becoming more active but back then it was mentally draining, and because of this I always try to show love to beginners that I come across as I know I was at that point too and wished I had someone to encourage me💜✨
Girl!! You're Romanian?! I thought I misheard when you said "o apă și-un pământ" I had to go back and relisten! ❤❤
i dont know why people feel so entitled to give criticism to someone that never asked for it. let people do what makes them happy. how miserable do you have to be to actively bring someone down for trying their best?
I'm not a novice artist, but I'm just starting to look for an audience and develop my social networks. And to see how my cool drawings sometimes don't get any attention when I spent 2 days on them is also unpleasant in its own way.
12:00 EXCUSE MEEE YOURE ROMANIAN??((or from Moldova that's also possible) seeing someone from my country be kindaaa popular, be funny and also be good at art is CRAZYYYY!!!!
cant believe i found Rin and she was recommended to me when she had 5.9k and it was her first face youtube video and now shes at 54.9k im so proud 😭
it makes me sad that this is happening to the art community. back in 2016-17 when i first started posting my (not so great) art, there were lots of forum threads on deviantart where you could get critiques (or help if you're struggling with a pose/head angle or smt) from actual professional artists, and they were so nice about it too😞 idk if it still exists tho, I'd recommend starting there if it does