how to troubleshoot air cooled vw charging system

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  • for 6 and 12 volt vws with gen/reg system,

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  • @wsiebel9851
    @wsiebel9851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just got my 1966 VW bug "polarized' and low and behold the generator light went out! it had sat for over a year and lost the polarity so you saved me from the godawful job of replacing the generator, thanks, Mike S.

  • @kevindinsdale8204
    @kevindinsdale8204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I must admit I lost your thread a few times, but I understood the basics, so I watched it again. A very informative video, and once again, you showed how to fix what would be impossible for the layman to understand until you explained it all. Well done,

  • @robinbeckford
    @robinbeckford 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Decades ago now, I was a VW 'nut'. Had various examples of all 4 types.
    What I remember most is the never-ending struggle with 6 volt electrical systems, with the dreaded voltage drop.

  • @vette77paul94
    @vette77paul94 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for another great informative vid. I tend to check regulators first. For me 9 times outta 10 they are the weak point.

  • @jeffshields1356
    @jeffshields1356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great trouble shooting video, explained very well ,easy to follow!! Great job! Thanks, keep the videos coming.

  • @michaelhidalgo1859
    @michaelhidalgo1859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. I went through all the steps. Found my Df wire loose on the voltage regulator. Much appreciation

  • @kellybaye9794
    @kellybaye9794 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DUDE thank You so much for i,d, on the regulator terminals !!! Im building a rail buggy and YOU were the only place I could find correct info

  • @kevinhealy3479
    @kevinhealy3479 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just a side note. The D+ stands for dynamo + and the De stands for dynamo field. A generator is a mechanically rectified dynamo.

    • @brandonaugustus8153
      @brandonaugustus8153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      a tip: you can watch series at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies recently.

    • @cashwill7119
      @cashwill7119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brandon Augustus Yea, have been watching on Flixzone for months myself :)

  • @rustyedmoore
    @rustyedmoore 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mustie, I needed the charging system wiring on my bug project and I figured you did a video. Thanks! How cool is it that this information will be around for anyone to use forever. People like u Rock!

  • @GregsGarage
    @GregsGarage 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great. I like the thorough diagnosis. Kinda makes me want to swap my alternator for a generator.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it sounds good, only problem is gens don't put out a lot of power. But yea at least the old school stuff is easier to work on. Alternators aren't all that complicated either. Good stuff here man, I miss seeing people workin on this stuff. It was old when I started wrenching but was more common.

  • @vwfoolwhy
    @vwfoolwhy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I diagnose a generator every 5 years or so, but I always have to review the steps on How to do do. Thanks for the video

  • @IdeasMan101
    @IdeasMan101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video! thanks 7min 20 did the trick for me.. !! If left speedo bulb does not light when ignition is switched on, charging system will not activate! My problem was bulb was blown! Thanks!!

    • @mustie1
      @mustie1  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Emco_Emco glad l could help

  • @gingertimelord5
    @gingertimelord5 ปีที่แล้ว

    your VW vidos have been a huge help waking up my bradley GT

  • @ziggassedup
    @ziggassedup 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very thorough mate....I had my money on the reg....Cool walk through the process of elimination.

  • @1cont
    @1cont ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful work, Sir.
    I have learned a lot from you over the years. Thanks. My 70 beetle thanks you as well.

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great tutorial Darrin. Very clear and concise. Thanks for sharing.

  • @janeanhilton1023
    @janeanhilton1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best step by step videos My problem is solved THANK YOU!!!!

  • @oscar3611
    @oscar3611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much! what a great video. I have exactly the same symptoms with my '77 T2. Learned a lot.

  • @raulporter1
    @raulporter1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation and test procedure. I suspect the regulator in my Beetle, but this will help me rule out any other causes.

  • @romandolan7809
    @romandolan7809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mustie, very useful, brushes fixed my issue, old ones only 500 miles old ( seems a very short life) so was the last thing I checked, but you helped save me a fortune in replacement parts so thanks again for youtubing

    • @mustie1
      @mustie1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to help

  • @pegasus619Q
    @pegasus619Q 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful video. I have a 67 bug that burned out two batteries in a row so I thought to check alternator. Followed the procedure you laid out and found that the alternator didn't spin at all when I hooked the battery straight to it. I can see a little damage inside the alternator, not sure if it affected the brushes at all, but it wouldn't spin whatsoever.

  • @austinoestreich8316
    @austinoestreich8316 ปีที่แล้ว

    one of the best troubleshoot videos i’ve ever seen! thank you so much!

  • @joakimengelin4236
    @joakimengelin4236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video that helps me with my problem. Thank you for taking your time and doing this video. 🙏🏻

  • @1ton4god
    @1ton4god 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great technical description of that mustie1. Thank you for the basic knowledge I don't own a VW but definitely will help me with other things.

  • @RelateGREAT
    @RelateGREAT 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super helpful and very well-explained. Thank you!

  • @kpdvw
    @kpdvw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Generator; also make sure the brushes are not worn down to nothing and that they move freely up/down in their brush holders!
    Regulator to do: clean all external connections
    pop the cover and clean the relay contacts inside!
    Remember electricity 101; clean connections as well as clean ground connections, ground straps Engine/Transaxle to chassis, Battery to Chassis;....

  • @lakesideranch
    @lakesideranch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic technical service time,
    You rock brother!

  • @riverhouse05
    @riverhouse05 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks brother, yet another great video on another topic that we will all run into at some point ;) thanks for making it clear!

  • @aleblanc3547
    @aleblanc3547 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done and an excellant explanation of the charging system as well.

  • @eric_seguin
    @eric_seguin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know if you even check the older comments but here goes. When I save old units for parts I always write POS on them. First off it reminds me that I don't have a spare and should watch out for one. (positive onhand supply. Second the POS stands for piece of s--t. Works for me. lol

  • @chrismann2686
    @chrismann2686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your efforts, i've a similar problem with my Beetle and it really helped :-)

  • @richard16372
    @richard16372 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice and informative video. I am sure this will help a lot of people out. Thanks for sharing.

  • @cuevas72
    @cuevas72 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, thanks for taking the time to explain everything. I'm sure this will help someone out in the future

  • @robertsykes6309
    @robertsykes6309 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Helpful, very helpful. Thanks for posting.

  • @Milogarage
    @Milogarage 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 76 Toyota Truck and a 76 Toyota Celica, The Celica is having the light come on and it will only run for 8 seconds unless reving it high, this video has me headed to swap voltage regulators sine they do unplug and are the same 22r(e?), Motovating video,Thanks Mustie

  • @georgespadaccini1608
    @georgespadaccini1608 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great super helpful. My type 3 has an issue not sure if it’s the voltage regulator or generator now I can skip the repair shop. Put new battery in last month and it died yesterday had to push start it. I noticed my lights were getting dim too.

  • @elfpimp1
    @elfpimp1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, just a simple blown lightbulb replaced and my generator is now charging the battery on the '71 T2 Camper bus. Yay 13.5v!
    Now to figure out the dash lights.......

  • @canadacatalyst
    @canadacatalyst 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    me learning! i liked his inside door panels! good stuff

  • @michaelnelson9140
    @michaelnelson9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. I learned something.

  • @MrComaToes
    @MrComaToes 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice tutorial, if that were a pricey piece out of say a 50's car I might take the cover off the regulator and file the points on it, and see if it comes back to life, but since that's a VW regulator and I just saw a new transporter regulator for $14 on ebay meh... cool vid D-man

  • @LAP1050
    @LAP1050 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation as you trouble-shoot.

  • @vayabroder729
    @vayabroder729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Will the principles also work with an alternator? Regarding the part numbers, the 019’s, etc are Bosch part numbers, not VW. To find out if a Bosch part is for a type I or II we need to dig a little further.

  • @bobbyhale4599
    @bobbyhale4599 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid. You fixed my problem as well. 😁

    • @mustie1
      @mustie1  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +bobby hale glad l could help

  • @rorannerusan
    @rorannerusan ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid for a new vw owner

  • @eugenewhitford9034
    @eugenewhitford9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great help. THANKS.

  • @270billycraven
    @270billycraven 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video very easy to follow. You should do more

  • @domosautomotive1929
    @domosautomotive1929 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 yrs ago i put an alternator on my 68 Bug, connect the 61 wire to DF, the B+ to D+ and threw the mechanical regulator in the trash. Read too many horror stories about the regulators sticking with contacts closed sending unfused battery power into the generator D+ lead. Alternator puts out rock solid 13.6v at idle and haven't had a lick of trouble with it.

  • @joaorodrigopalmeira
    @joaorodrigopalmeira 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks so much.

  • @j.k.salser499
    @j.k.salser499 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You present the theory of the generator's function and what's what--but you got off a couple of times and interrupted the stream of information. Also--the generator warning light in the speedometer is not needed for generator function--it simply gives you an indication that the generator is function--or not. However, with an alternator, the dash light is absolutely necessary for alternator function--to excite the generating fields. The regulator for a Bus, Bug or Ghia are the same--the electrical current doesn't know the difference. I wish that you would go back through your thinking, omit the "stuff", and stream-line your presentation. That would make this a truly great video! Your show and tell is great! Go for it! jay

  • @jackblack9208
    @jackblack9208 ปีที่แล้ว

    @mustie1 I'm having an issue with sputtering and backfiring when driving but at idle it runs perfect. I have been through just about everything and can find nothing wrong. I did notice that the headlights were dim and at one point they got bright like they were supposed to be. When they did, it ran great a few minutes later, the lights went back dim and it sputtered and backfired. I'm researching the voltage regulator and came across your video. I did everything you showed in the video and all the readings were pretty much the same as what you had. My question is, can I disconnect the wire on the de side and run a jumper to the body and then test drive it to see if that clears up the issue? I wouldn't need to drive more than about 30 seconds to see if issue goes away and then I would be fairly certain that it's the voltage regulator.

  • @luisbosch9433
    @luisbosch9433 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I'm trying to figure out why my generator and voltage regulator are overheating. I'm getting 14.75 charging voltage at battery, so it looks like it's overcharging. The battery with engine off is reading 11 volts, so it looks like the battery has problems. I'm going to run your checks on the generator to make sure it's OK.
    Thanks again. This will hopefully be helpful. I'm going to buy a new battery and a voltage regulator if the generator tests OK. Then go from there.

  • @br549fried4
    @br549fried4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, great info!

  • @IUDICA007
    @IUDICA007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great INFO...THANK YOU SIR.

  • @vw64manyrd
    @vw64manyrd 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    great information! Thanks for the video!

  • @coreyklitch697
    @coreyklitch697 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my wife a 67 bug and it has bin parked since the 80s they must’ve had lots of electrical problems because there’s little notes written over inside the car with diagrams the generator doesn’t charge I just saw this video says the light Hass to work in the dash but the light does not come on with the key. It only comes on when the car starts. Wondering what your thoughts are if there’s something wired backwards

  • @mcrum4421
    @mcrum4421 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Great explanation.
    I have app. 18 volts at my battery when I start my 1970 bus up. Voltage regulator ?

  • @Justsay_n
    @Justsay_n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Well done....

  • @jamesbaca6723
    @jamesbaca6723 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanx, time to try out the techniques shown

  • @raceday-iy7vm
    @raceday-iy7vm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video a lot of good information

  • @KA4UPW
    @KA4UPW 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks,
    it was helpful, my 1977 has a pancake motor and an alternator.. i get no battery light with ignition on engine not running, so i guess start with checking the bulb. do you know if i have an internal voltage regulator?

  • @huck01955
    @huck01955 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you sure know your stuff thanks for sharing

  • @RobsPackanShine
    @RobsPackanShine 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    very well explained...ty for sharimg

  • @DesertRatFabrication
    @DesertRatFabrication 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you give me a quick explanation why you need a red gen light on dash for charging system to work, on your video that was the only thing I didn't really get. I,m kinda thinking it completes a ground

  • @jamesmdeluca
    @jamesmdeluca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings: From your description of the voltage at thr DF terminal, you should be able to compare the field control voltage between the good and bad regulators by noting the voltage at DF for the 2 regulators at both idle and higher revs. That way in the future you only nned to measure the DF voltage to know if the regulator is sending the correct voltage to DF. HTH

  • @antoniomancini8738
    @antoniomancini8738 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video thank you for the information

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the regulator like the old cars had, precision relays and shunts + contacts that regulate by clicking on and off??

  • @lazpichardo1926lp70
    @lazpichardo1926lp70 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome thks for the info very helpful.

  • @gungor1985
    @gungor1985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u for the video ur page is awesome

  • @RodderFiles
    @RodderFiles 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job truble shooting

  • @WaveAction777
    @WaveAction777 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good information

  • @FastED1988
    @FastED1988 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question If I Don't Have An Initial Power Going To The Field But After I Short The Feild Lug Then Start It Up The Light Goes Out And I Have 14.3-5 Volts When I Shut It Off And Start It Back Up It Won't Charge Again... I Don't See Any Voltage Regulator??? This Is On My VW Trike...

  • @68hitnmiss76
    @68hitnmiss76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you do when the gen light comes on and it won’t go off? We’ve put brushes in back in july. Light went out. 1050 miles later it’s back on again. We’ve changed the coil regulator taken the belt off and polarized it. Brushes look ok. Taken the 61 wire off and the light goes off on the dash. Rewired the df to regulator lights still on.
    All my lights are led except for turn signals. No radio...... I don’t understand what’s making the light come on. 1968 beetle

  • @dtadpole
    @dtadpole 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info man!

  • @kforce20011966
    @kforce20011966 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 69 bug has an alternator. Are the tests the same? When I turn my key on the gen light does not illuminate. But I tested the bulb and the bulb is good

  • @daviddominguez7164
    @daviddominguez7164 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video!!!

  • @MrWillis5719
    @MrWillis5719 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    One never knows when that info will come in handy, Thanks

  • @MissouriOldTimer
    @MissouriOldTimer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe you and help, I have a dune buggy that some of the wires were messed up, I have most everything sorted out except for the charge light, it has the factory alternator I think this is about a 72 model, I have no idea where to hook the wire from the alternator and also how to hook up the light on the back of the speedometer, there are 3 lights at the bottom or the speedometer and also a contact that kind of surrounds the 3 light sockets, I am at a total loss as to how to connect the charge light and wire to the speedometer.

  • @whoolph
    @whoolph 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done D . . . . . what's that little bus project you have under the tarp?? haha Rog stay cool

  • @gilliland426
    @gilliland426 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and very informative! thank you very much!!
    how does your wife like her new ride!

    • @mustie1
      @mustie1  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for all the comments, been away, she was supprised how well it rides,

    • @gilliland426
      @gilliland426 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      mustie1 that is great, cant wait for for good videos and bike builds!

  • @daytripping
    @daytripping 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My generator when tested as demonstrated in the video only gets about 3 volts. I did the test with the hot wire from battery and generator spun without the belt on. This means my generator is bad right?

  • @mikegreen5619
    @mikegreen5619 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is an older video but you need to make mention that you will fry your generator if this is not done very quickly for a short burst of time. My generator started smoking after a minute or so and may be kaput.

  • @derekobidowski3301
    @derekobidowski3301 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i did that years ago before i converted to an reliable alternator as when the vehicle sits the generator lost its polarity as an alternator work regardless but like the generator the bulb in the speedometer has to work as i added a load equalizer resistor to the bulb if converted to LED it will work regardless if the bulb or LED is burned out. i added LED indicators in the speedometer i did this long before the Radio Shack closed here. as a 1968 bug the green light is oil used a green Led green for turn signal arrows, and red for the charging and thats where i had to add the load equalizer resistor too i tried it would not charge as the resistor is added it charges.

    • @robertneill3057
      @robertneill3057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Newer VW's e.g. type 25 wedge transporter have the LED indicator you've mentioned. I have found most faults here are caused by mis fitting the LED into it's sockets. LED's are also polarity sensitive so have to be connected the right way round to work. This last point mostly applies to the bare LED component that's used in newer water cooled VW's since the mid 1970's mainly Golf, Polo, Jetta, Pasat and the T25,T4,T5 Transporter. The bulb like indicators used in aftermarket applications can have a rectifier circuit fitted before the LED that negates the polarity sensitive requirements when fitting but this can depend on type of indicator bought. A simple task is to check the indicator polarity both ways on installation usually complicated by the connections already present. LED's do take less current to work usually between 5 to 10 times less than the old incandescent bulb so the use of the bypass resistor is recommended 120 to 150 ohm 2 watt resistor. The transporters with the dual circuit brake warning light also have this light wired into the charge warning circuit via a diode so providing an alternative initial excitation current path in the case of bulb failure.

  • @joshcrosson
    @joshcrosson 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regulator is the same for bus and bug. There are 6v and 12v, and mechanical and solid state. As long as 12v goes on 12v and 6v goes on 6v there is no difference.

  • @bigjohnypoper
    @bigjohnypoper 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw a VW pickup truck just like yours at a car show in freemont nebraska. I have a picture but im not sure how to send it to you

  • @59chevt
    @59chevt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid thanks.

  • @tomswonderfulworld
    @tomswonderfulworld 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good video

  • @clatonbigsby2616
    @clatonbigsby2616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good vid 👍👍👍

  • @stevenbrady6927
    @stevenbrady6927 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi guys hope u can help ive got a vw air cooled engined trike and its sta rted to over charge up to 15 volts changed the bty but still the same its running on a alternator is it worth changing the regulater or change the whole thing /alternator how easy is it to change the fegulater any would be great

  • @dougrowe5447
    @dougrowe5447 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably a stupid question, but can you convert them to a alternator type system ? if so is there a kit you can buy???

  • @MaximumKarma
    @MaximumKarma 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hold up a sec here, I have 2 aircooled VW 1600 on rails and both my charging systems have dummy lights. the thing is, is the light from the "61" post of the regulator is ON when it is charging. and the light goes off if it is NOT charging. so Im confused why your goes off when it IS charging... what am I missing here?

  • @jeffcohen9246
    @jeffcohen9246 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure you are wrong about the dash light having to work for the system to charge, thats only for alternator, on that system the light needs to excite the alternator get it to charge. Generator and regulator can charge with no dash light!

  • @wtbm123
    @wtbm123 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video .Good Explanation

  • @unicron24
    @unicron24 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 73 super beetle, it has a new battery, the alternator is charging , 4 months ago I replaced my new battery I bought 5 months before that because it had a bad cell, I put on metal wrapped fuel lines and they sparked on the coil when I put them on 2 months ago and today it started then wouldn't start until I jumped it. I electrical taped around the fuel lines where they sorta touch the coil wires. And it starts now, Ima gonna wait till tomorrow to see if it will start again. Thanks for any advice you can offer....

    • @mustie1
      @mustie1  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      depends on if it starts tomorrow

    • @unicron24
      @unicron24 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mustie1 thanks I'll keep you updated..

    • @unicron24
      @unicron24 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mustie1 got in this morning and it wouldent start, lights came on wouldent turn over, then jumped it, it warmed up,turned it off ,then it started up, started up three times in a row. You have any ideas?

    • @unicron24
      @unicron24 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just tryed to restart and it won't, unless I jump it, did a test on the neg terminal and the test light came on, when I test the fuses the windshield wiper and rear defroster fuse lights up with the tester.

    • @mustie1
      @mustie1  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so something is staying on, l would pull pull the relay for the rear defrost and see if it goes out, think they can be problematic

  • @modotvideo
    @modotvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @NA12495
    @NA12495 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, now i have some where to start?

  • @AlanDavid1955
    @AlanDavid1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU

  • @buddylight2191
    @buddylight2191 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would install a voltmeter under the dash so I could monitor charging properly.

  • @tomwaller2111
    @tomwaller2111 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to fuel up at a station whilst driving the light was on. I started my engine again after and it wouldnt turn over. My red light is always on, idle or when fully running. Battery was dead but now that's been changed to a new one. Starts fine now but the red light is always on. Any ideas what I should do now?

  • @slimjim119
    @slimjim119 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @longjohnsilver5179
    @longjohnsilver5179 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I installed a replacement used engine on a VW bug once and the generator would not charge..Red light always on. Tried a new generator. Same problem. Red light. Could not figure out what the problem was. I was at wits end! Then someone showed me that you need to "jump" the terminals...(Grounding out the DF terminal). Simple solution. The generator then was charging and no more red warning light.