If you are in a creek no one can kick you out as long as you access it without trespassing. Flowing bodies of water are owned by the state and cannot be private unless an organization leases access. As long as you are in the creek bed you are 100% allowed to be there.
Right and wrong bud! You can't access water on a owners land unless you are completely floating when they own the mineral rights if they have no mineral rights then it's free game technically the whole creek bed water flowing or not.
@@selfmade4547 this seems to be different depending on the state. I know that in my state if you access a flowing body of water legally then you can wade the entire thing as the creekbed is considered part of the creek and therefore is owned by the state.
I often have this stuff happening here in Germany while fishing from cow pastures and other properties that are fenced with wood. A lot of people just dont know and trip on that, even though I'm allowed to fish there. Be kind and more like Ayo. Peace
I really appreciate the interactions between you and Lojo, but the chemistry you got with Norm is something else. You guys are much more hilarious 🤣 Stay safe and healthy 👍
@@stuarthowells2274 Agreed. Came up to very same conclusions. Ayo brings so much natural humor and since he's been gone at Lojo's, I rarely watch his stuff.
Bro I know you put a ton of work into these videos! And we really appreciate it. I feel like you always put your viewers very first and that what makes the channel so amazing! Keep it up ayo!
That woman was borderline. If somebody comes at me with attitude and commands me to do whatever I do not comply, I let them know they are in the wrong and continue on my way. When they threaten to call law enforcement I immediately call them and tell the cops that I am being harassed while legally fishing and request police presence. If they are polite and ask kindly for me to leave I will usually comply unless the fishing is fire. Never let the Karen's win.
Whomever your editor is deserves a raise for zooming in on Norm scratching his ass while y'all are getting yelled at. That's some genius editing right there.
Man those fish were huge! How'd you manage to pull them in, lol. Seriously though, they may have been small but their markings were gorgeous. Norm with the one liners today was hilarious!! I don't know why she got so mad at you, you were being very polite. I agree that she should definitely have signs up!
You 2 guys together make the best videos around. You're just like 2 peas in a pod. But is this an old video or did you just happen to stumble across a beautiful day somewhere in January? lol. Great video. Thanks for sharing Andrew.
It's Alabama. I live in Florida and we've been getting 80 and 90 degree weather. We just hit some cold this morning but it was 49° this morning and was 72 by noon.
I have depression issues and whenever I feel it coming on I watch one of your videos and it snaps me right out of it. I usually end up on the floor laughing my ass off. Thank you so much !!!
This is in the top 3 best fishing videos I’ve ever watched. Maybe even my favorite. I was literally living vicariously thru you in this video and it brought me back to my childhood adventures thru creeks. I STILL love going in creek adventures. Especially fishing. And man if I came up on an abandoned water park, holy crap!! That would be so awesome!! I LOVED this video. Thanks for fully capturing the water park with all your angles and stuff. It gave me chills!
Bro that lady was just spewing bs honestly but hats off to the boys for being calm, collected and respectful. Plus that guy coming back to try and help.
Great video! Being able to stay within the creek is correct in most states. You can go to your local central appraisal office and see who owns the land around the creek. I had the same thing happen to me while I was in college (many years ago). This old man was a well known realtor in the town ran me off very rudely. I went and checked it out at the CAD office and he didn't own the side I was fishing on, it belonged to the city. I asked the clerk for a couple of copies of the land survey to keep in my tackle box. (The clerk at the CAD knew who the old was and didn't like him either and was glad for me to have the right docs.) I never saw him again. But my fishing buddy's did. It got ugly I was told, police called and all that mess. The old man finally backed down. In Abilene TX, you don't have a lot of places to fish.
Thanks for another hilarious video Andrew! The only thing that might have made it even better is if you'd have filmed Norms reaction to meeting up with a snake. I think I might start carrying a rubber snake in my bag, just in case I ever had a good opportunity to deploy it.
Pretty entertaining content. You two make a great pair of fishing comedians having fun. PS- I think you're spot on about the creek being public waters and the RV park. Whoever the lady in the golfcart was, your presence made her nervous so she wanted to discourage anyone from hanging out in creek near or on the property.
Brooo there had to be a Karen! “I’m trying so hard to be polite”. To some nice young men that are fishing and bothering noone? So funny haha. Great content!
she clearly said the owner is super nervous because anyone that gets bit by a snake in there property line he is liable for... it wasn't an overall bad situation, she probably just didn't want them to think she was being an A** listening to the advice her boss makes her follow. I'm not sure if she was the owner she woulda kicked them out, she brought up the owner multiple times. even first guy said hte owner is pretty agressive.
Hey Ayo just wanted to say your channel makes me so happy keep it up man thanks for being such a happy fun guy to watch! You have a super entertaining personality and that makes ur channel alll the better for people who aren’t even that interested in fishing !
@@PoserPosse Here's a new thing. Its grammatically incorrect to end a sentence like you did with a preposition. This is the comments from a video, not English class. So don't correct my grammar and I won't critique yours.
Great video!! You can now add trespassing in video to your achievements!! In actuality they had no authority to kick you out. That said, you did the right thing. Was it me or did that lady admit to having a water moccasin nest in her park? Asking for a friend.😁 As always your videos never go as planned. That's what makes them so interesting!
Any land/water below the high water line is public in Wisconsin we also have a wet boot law that allows us while wading to enter any property(shortest distance possible) to pass an obstacle while fishing etc. This applies and aids to small stream trout fisherman like myself especially. Glad you got to slam some fatties before the fuzz showed up!
My great aunt and uncle used to own a piece of land (now reclaimed by the DNR under the "lifetime" rule) next to a Wisconsin trout stream. They were pretty cool about the fisherman (and inner tubers) walking on the edges of their property. My great uncle was a world class b.s.'er, so he would often strike up conversations with the fishermen and tell them where the holes were downstream (there weren't any holes upstream). It served them better to be that way than the "get off my grass" type of people.
We have something similar in Tennessee, and water way that is at least Ankle deep is considered Tennessee Valley Authority property and can be fished regardless of who's property it runs through so long as you remain in the water
@@logangow1640 Glad I found this comment. I'm from/live in Nashville & was wondering about the law(s) here after seeing this situation. Was probably gonna bug me until I looked it up,so thank u for saving me the trouble!
I agree with you guys. The stream is public not private but as you said they might of had problems with others coming over the fence. But you set a god example by leaving that area and showing respect.👍🏻 Stay Safe & God Bless!!!
Not gonna lie man. Your getting me into fishing and I’m not even mad about it. Just found you a couple days ago and I’ve watched so many of your videos already lol great stuff bud 👌
I know in my state you can't own a water way, so you can't stop anyone from walking a creek or river just because it goes through your property. As long as you stay within 15ft of the bank there's nothing they can do. Name the RV park and we will leave them some bad reviews \
All you googans are Fire I watch all you guys even like yalls baits but you guys collabs and content rock keep it up brightens my days during this cold time of year when I can't get out to fish
AYO FISHING just subscribed thanks for the videos dont know how i havent ran across your guys channel but glad i did. Been watching you norm & Lojo's videos. Thanks for the funny videos helps me with my depression. Thanks
Yellow house = Pump house. There, that's my contribution, lol. You have a great comedic sense which makes your videos very entertaining. I remember your first video... I was like "what is this s#@t?" " ah hell no" ... but I haven't missed one episode since. Stay safe and keep producing the funny stuff. PS Norm is a funny guy too... go rob that bank!
Hey, I think that was a good interaction. The first dude was obviously cool. You didn't throw him under the bus. Major props for that. The lady seemed nice. She was stressed and genuinely concerned for you boys and her job, I think. So her blood pressure was high. You guys were very nice. All was well. Nice work as usual.
What? She seemd to be typical angry "high and mighty" kind of person. And while laws can be complicated sometimes, as long as theese dudes stayed in the water, I think they were legal and the lady was totaly baseless. I'd call the police and say Im being harassed. ALWAYS know your laws.
16 years old, we snuck into a 100+ acre reservoir for the small city we lived in. Way out in the "Sticks", it was surrounded by a nature preserve. The "Ranger" caught us. While he was reprimanding us he saw a wad of monofilament that I had picked up and asked about it. I told him how I hated to see that stuff around and that I picked it up all the time. Long story short, we struck up a conversation about all things outdoors. It started a friendship. We were able to fish that reservoir occasionally for the next 5 years until he retired.
Flying a drone over private property is perfectly legal since it’s FAA-regulated federal airspace, but it’s a sure fire way for the property owners to notice you.
Same here in UK...flowing water is a public path way...so long as the person refrains from foot hold or any other form of hold ...of surrounding solid land....
I remember those days growing up in CT during the summer and having to constantly look at ground and water for cottonmouths when fishing. Fun fact: Moccasins eat other snakes, especially rattlesnakes.
I wish that I could give you more than one thumb's up...y'all are too funny. I'm originally from Florida so know all about things looking snakey...and y'all are a trip. I love the slap your thigh method ...in New Zealand now, so no need for new scare the snake away techniques...lol
Thanks for getting that itch in appreciate it 😂
@FishingWithNorm Tell Me You Have Red Bugs by Telling me You Have Red Bugs 🤣
🤣I was dieing laughing not once but twice!!! That's Ayo for you and that's why we loves him so much 😂
My guy got crabs 🤣😂
It was hilarious
LOL
If you are in a creek no one can kick you out as long as you access it without trespassing. Flowing bodies of water are owned by the state and cannot be private unless an organization leases access. As long as you are in the creek bed you are 100% allowed to be there.
My thoughts 💯 in Kansas waterways are public access(with the exception of one river that all surrounding property is private owned)
This can vary. As the land under that water is owned by a private entity. You need to look up your states laws on this.
Right and wrong bud! You can't access water on a owners land unless you are completely floating when they own the mineral rights if they have no mineral rights then it's free game technically the whole creek bed water flowing or not.
@@selfmade4547 this seems to be different depending on the state. I know that in my state if you access a flowing body of water legally then you can wade the entire thing as the creekbed is considered part of the creek and therefore is owned by the state.
Also in Kansas any bridge is an access point and it's public from high water mark to high watermark
You did a good job of handling the situation respectfully.
I often have this stuff happening here in Germany while fishing from cow pastures and other properties that are fenced with wood. A lot of people just dont know and trip on that, even though I'm allowed to fish there. Be kind and more like Ayo. Peace
I really appreciate the interactions between you and Lojo, but the chemistry you got with Norm is something else. You guys are much more hilarious 🤣 Stay safe and healthy 👍
totally agree i only followed lojo because of ayo with lojo it seems forced where as ayo its natural and norm and ayo do seem much better together
@@stuarthowells2274 Agreed. Came up to very same conclusions. Ayo brings so much natural humor and since he's been gone at Lojo's, I rarely watch his stuff.
@@DienekesShade yes same I flick accassional to look and all the views are when ayo on his channel
top tier googan squad
@@stuarthowells2274 Lojo is a prick
You were more kind and courteous than 99% of anyone else would be. Hats off to you for taking the high road.
Doesn't make her rite though.
you and Norm make the best videos together! keep it up!
Bro I know you put a ton of work into these videos! And we really appreciate it. I feel like you always put your viewers very first and that what makes the channel so amazing! Keep it up ayo!
👍🏿👍🏿
I freaking love AYO.
Norm and ayo are the best duo
That woman was borderline. If somebody comes at me with attitude and commands me to do whatever I do not comply, I let them know they are in the wrong and continue on my way. When they threaten to call law enforcement I immediately call them and tell the cops that I am being harassed while legally fishing and request police presence. If they are polite and ask kindly for me to leave I will usually comply unless the fishing is fire.
Never let the Karen's win.
Tell me you're white without saying you're white..
@@isickofit hey kids, daddy's home!
@@simpleoutdoors1 👍😎👍
@@isickofit Tell me you're an ignorant liberal without telling me you're an ignorant liberal
@@jamess3109 Tell me you're a loony maga creep right out loud.
Whomever your editor is deserves a raise for zooming in on Norm scratching his ass while y'all are getting yelled at. That's some genius editing right there.
I love when norm and ayo come together like this! Loved the video man!
AYO and fishing with norm are hilarious and disturbing love there collaborations they are the best.
The filming and editing was pretty minty
Really enjoyed Norm…scratching…whatever. 2022 off to a banging start - LET’S GO!
You guys are priceless! Norm... that itch bro...🤣 lotion man... lotion lol
Man those fish were huge! How'd you manage to pull them in, lol. Seriously though, they may have been small but their markings were gorgeous.
Norm with the one liners today was hilarious!!
I don't know why she got so mad at you, you were being very polite.
I agree that she should definitely have signs up!
You 2 guys together make the best videos around. You're just like 2 peas in a pod. But is this an old video or did you just happen to stumble across a beautiful day somewhere in January? lol. Great video. Thanks for sharing Andrew.
It's Alabama. I live in Florida and we've been getting 80 and 90 degree weather. We just hit some cold this morning but it was 49° this morning and was 72 by noon.
@@clifbradley I can understand why you live in Florida then. I hate the weather we get in Pennsylvania in the winter.
@@darrenangle4493 its -2 here in michigan
We had some springlike days in December, sadly on days that I had to work.
@@fishingthelist4017 same here in Australia, weekend weather is usually crap but the minute your at work, perfect weather 😞🤣
I have depression issues and whenever I feel it coming on I watch one of your videos and it snaps me right out of it. I usually end up on the floor laughing my ass off. Thank you so much !!!
Stage strong friend.
Norm...Black mold theme! Killing me! AYO...Great content. Love winding down after kids in bed to the videos you all put out! Thank you
One of the best fishing channels out there!
No
The best
@@TerpsItsWhatsForDinner no
@@TerpsItsWhatsForDinner the greatest
Crazy how that lady is so confident in trying to kick you out despite having zero clue how the laws work.
Video of the week by far....thanks Ayo and Norm....👍👍
Hilarious! You guys are great together. Definitely more vids of you two need to be done!.
you and norm are great together, definitely need more vids
This is in the top 3 best fishing videos I’ve ever watched. Maybe even my favorite. I was literally living vicariously thru you in this video and it brought me back to my childhood adventures thru creeks. I STILL love going in creek adventures. Especially fishing. And man if I came up on an abandoned water park, holy crap!! That would be so awesome!! I LOVED this video. Thanks for fully capturing the water park with all your angles and stuff. It gave me chills!
The Norm and Ayo team, just works!! Excellent video guys!! Stay blessed!!🙏
Maybe we should call this team "Normo"
Bro that lady was just spewing bs honestly but hats off to the boys for being calm, collected and respectful. Plus that guy coming back to try and help.
Finally someone who releases a fish gently, great job AYO, we need a four leaf clover in that houseboat! 👍👍👍
Lol, you should watch the recent vid where he spikes a bass into the dock! They were told to though
@@Yeetmaster900 😂What one
“Wait is that not a path? AAHHH” Norm 2022
Great video! Being able to stay within the creek is correct in most states. You can go to your local central appraisal office and see who owns the land around the creek. I had the same thing happen to me while I was in college (many years ago). This old man was a well known realtor in the town ran me off very rudely. I went and checked it out at the CAD office and he didn't own the side I was fishing on, it belonged to the city. I asked the clerk for a couple of copies of the land survey to keep in my tackle box. (The clerk at the CAD knew who the old was and didn't like him either and was glad for me to have the right docs.) I never saw him again. But my fishing buddy's did. It got ugly I was told, police called and all that mess. The old man finally backed down. In Abilene TX, you don't have a lot of places to fish.
well thats your issue, you're trying to fish in Abilene, ive heard nothing but bad stuff from that city
Fire content always!!🔥🔥 Love the collabs with norm🔒
Thummie game = expert level
Thanks dad
@@AYOFishing I thought I was your Dad 🥺 can't trust em nowadays!! 😂
You and norm are my absolute favorite inspirational generous and absolutely hilarious
Thanks for another hilarious video Andrew! The only thing that might have made it even better is if you'd have filmed Norms reaction to meeting up with a snake. I think I might start carrying a rubber snake in my bag, just in case I ever had a good opportunity to deploy it.
My 2 favorite TH-camrs with another banger. It’s awesome to see familiar places on TH-cam
I commend the respect you have! Wether you are in the right or wrong, you have the utmost respect! Love you bro
Pretty entertaining content. You two make a great pair of fishing comedians having fun. PS- I think you're spot on about the creek being public waters and the RV park. Whoever the lady in the golfcart was, your presence made her nervous so she wanted to discourage anyone from hanging out in creek near or on the property.
Brooo there had to be a Karen! “I’m trying so hard to be polite”. To some nice young men that are fishing and bothering noone? So funny haha. Great content!
she clearly said the owner is super nervous because anyone that gets bit by a snake in there property line he is liable for... it wasn't an overall bad situation, she probably just didn't want them to think she was being an A** listening to the advice her boss makes her follow. I'm not sure if she was the owner she woulda kicked them out, she brought up the owner multiple times. even first guy said hte owner is pretty agressive.
Yes sir the man is back!!!! Happy New Years bro
😂 I like how norm just plugged away saying “ if you wanna see us break more laws” 😂😂😂
Hey Ayo just wanted to say your channel makes me so happy keep it up man thanks for being such a happy fun guy to watch! You have a super entertaining personality and that makes ur channel alll the better for people who aren’t even that interested in fishing !
I love your and norms videos
Dude I love your channel AYO! Another banger 🔥
Damn Ayo, u gunna let norm out 1 liner u on your own video? Norm takes the win this time with his 1 liner jokes lol
Bro.. I could watch you and Norm all day yo!
Ayo and Norm keeping everyone on their toes 😂😂
I freaking love you too filming together. Always funny and new stuff.
Here's a new thing; two means 2 people. Too means also or a lot of.
@@PoserPosse Here's a new thing. Its grammatically incorrect to end a sentence like you did with a preposition. This is the comments from a video, not English class. So don't correct my grammar and I won't critique yours.
Dude your channel is skyrocketing 👍👍
Good video AYO and Norm! I guess we can *scratch* that off the list for 2022! lol
Great video!! You can now add trespassing in video to your achievements!! In actuality they had no authority to kick you out. That said, you did the right thing. Was it me or did that lady admit to having a water moccasin nest in her park? Asking for a friend.😁 As always your videos never go as planned. That's what makes them so interesting!
Love ya brotha, u always keep me rollin, especially when u colab with the boys, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
Any land/water below the high water line is public in Wisconsin we also have a wet boot law that allows us while wading to enter any property(shortest distance possible) to pass an obstacle while fishing etc. This applies and aids to small stream trout fisherman like myself especially. Glad you got to slam some fatties before the fuzz showed up!
My great aunt and uncle used to own a piece of land (now reclaimed by the DNR under the "lifetime" rule) next to a Wisconsin trout stream. They were pretty cool about the fisherman (and inner tubers) walking on the edges of their property. My great uncle was a world class b.s.'er, so he would often strike up conversations with the fishermen and tell them where the holes were downstream (there weren't any holes upstream). It served them better to be that way than the "get off my grass" type of people.
@@jm6822 yup super cool of them. Ah yes the tubers. Wisconsinites will find and use any way possible to cover distance and drink simultaneously.
We have something similar in Tennessee, and water way that is at least Ankle deep is considered Tennessee Valley Authority property and can be fished regardless of who's property it runs through so long as you remain in the water
@@logangow1640 Glad I found this comment. I'm from/live in Nashville & was wondering about the law(s) here after seeing this situation. Was probably gonna bug me until I looked it up,so thank u for saving me the trouble!
I agree with you guys. The stream is public not private but as you said they might of had problems with others coming over the fence. But you set a god example by leaving that area and showing respect.👍🏻 Stay Safe & God Bless!!!
Yes SIRRR🎣🎣
Not gonna lie man. Your getting me into fishing and I’m not even mad about it. Just found you a couple days ago and I’ve watched so many of your videos already lol great stuff bud 👌
I’m not a fisherman but I love exploring spots videos (oh and catch and cooks 😏)
Bro is this Christmas? An AYO video ft Norm and LOJO dropped a video in the same day?!?!? The water park would have been so fun, damn.
U are way better than lojo. Quickly realizing you were the only part of his channel I liked lol
Yes !
Agreed 💯
You really have fun with that norm had me LMAO 😂 when he fell and I have seen Alot awesome how about a bigger bloopers video 👍😀 thanks AYO
I know in my state you can't own a water way, so you can't stop anyone from walking a creek or river just because it goes through your property. As long as you stay within 15ft of the bank there's nothing they can do. Name the RV park and we will leave them some bad reviews \
Ayo & Norm we need more calab vids
Norm and ayo I'm in
9:36 Norm be deflating every time he catches a fish. Lol that boy 🫁 gotta be 💪 😂
People like her put a damper on the world!
You dealt with the "Karen" the best way you could. Better than most would for sure. Good on you brother.
+5 points for being courteous to the Karen...-20 points for not telling her "this is God's water and he gave me permission to fish it!"
What a cool location! Even though you accidentally kinda trespassed it is a killer vid. Can't wait for the next one Ayo!
Hell yeah I’ve been waiting for another AYO adventure can’t wait to see how the itty bitty is coming along
All you googans are Fire I watch all you guys even like yalls baits but you guys collabs and content rock keep it up brightens my days during this cold time of year when I can't get out to fish
Always a pleasure watching you guys have fun. Thanks for the video.
The sracthing of norms back leg is the highlight of the video LOL. Great video AYO.
AYO FISHING just subscribed thanks for the videos dont know how i havent ran across your guys channel but glad i did. Been watching you norm & Lojo's videos. Thanks for the funny videos helps me with my depression. Thanks
That was a fun adventure til that lady showed up. Glad you guys played it straight and just dipped. Keep up the amazing work AYO
Slacking off with Norm as usual. 😁 More itty bitty please!
Norm said it perfectly! 🥃 entertaining vid 🤘🏾
love the humble anglers who have potential to catch the biggest of basses but find the joy in the little ones.
Yellow house = Pump house. There, that's my contribution, lol.
You have a great comedic sense which makes your videos very entertaining.
I remember your first video... I was like "what is this s#@t?" " ah hell no" ... but I haven't missed one episode since.
Stay safe and keep producing the funny stuff.
PS Norm is a funny guy too... go rob that bank!
So funny , Norm…scratching -Lol
Hey, I think that was a good interaction. The first dude was obviously cool. You didn't throw him under the bus. Major props for that. The lady seemed nice. She was stressed and genuinely concerned for you boys and her job, I think. So her blood pressure was high. You guys were very nice. All was well. Nice work as usual.
What? She seemd to be typical angry "high and mighty" kind of person. And while laws can be complicated sometimes, as long as theese dudes stayed in the water, I think they were legal and the lady was totaly baseless. I'd call the police and say Im being harassed. ALWAYS know your laws.
Have never laughed so much watching a fishing video. Keep it up!!!
Lol the bass said he wanted you to kiss his bass lol before he left then said naw you maight just eat me. And shot off like a bolt of lightning.
Yet another great video. Great shots! Also way to keep super cool when confronted with that near hysterical lady🙂
16 years old, we snuck into a 100+ acre reservoir for the small city we lived in. Way out in the "Sticks", it was surrounded by a nature preserve. The "Ranger" caught us.
While he was reprimanding us he saw a wad of monofilament that I had picked up and asked about it. I told him how I hated to see that stuff around and that I picked it up all the time.
Long story short, we struck up a conversation about all things outdoors.
It started a friendship. We were able to fish that reservoir occasionally for the next 5 years until he retired.
Nothing like watching 2 grown men chase each other up a small creek 😂. Fire vid keep’em comin
Classic bank fishing TH-cam video. Totally dig it man!
Yes the creek is public. Karrens are everywhere i guess
Have always loved your content... Keep the videos rolling... And where is DAVEY GRAVY 😳
Be safe you both make me laugh so much when yall are to gathering
norm casually itching his leg while being yelled at😭😂
i need you to upload more often dude!!!! man been 8 days since we seen ya expect for the podcast
Dudeeee you both my favourite youtubers please keep going make like that more content:))))
Great video. You two together are the best. We need more like this get the boys together all of you do a challenge.. 🎣🎣
Flying a drone over private property is perfectly legal since it’s FAA-regulated federal airspace, but it’s a sure fire way for the property owners to notice you.
Dude, I’ve been following from the very beginning, it’s crazy to see where you are today!
Same here in UK...flowing water is a public path way...so long as the person refrains from foot hold or any other form of hold ...of surrounding solid land....
Best channel on TH-cam 🎣 🎢 !!!
She started talking about snakes norm went to scratchin😂
You guys are hilarious 😂 love the humor!
LMAO Welcome Norm
AYO Keep it coming !!!
I remember those days growing up in CT during the summer and having to constantly look at ground and water for cottonmouths when fishing. Fun fact: Moccasins eat other snakes, especially rattlesnakes.
I wish that I could give you more than one thumb's up...y'all are too funny. I'm originally from Florida so know all about things looking snakey...and y'all are a trip. I love the slap your thigh method ...in New Zealand now, so no need for new scare the snake away techniques...lol