@@TheBrainSpecialist Even at that inertia, momentum and the limits if grip still dictate a lot. As good as discs are you can't just stand on them and expect a galaxy to stop as quick as a cortina.
I will always prefer these cars over any downforce car. They look cooler, they sound cooler, and the way they drive is just perfect to watch. Sliding round every corner.
I read an interview with Jim Hall, years ago. I recall him saying that the wings he used on cars and the downforce they generated have largely ruined motorsport. Wish I could find it; made for good reading.
@@josephtravers777 That would be a frame member for most of the other cars in the race. That is likely one of the special "lightweight" models that tipped the scales at a mere 3400 pounds compared to the 3700 of the stock vehicle.
@@thomasb1889 The Galaxie surely needs stiffening in the front suspension to run a road course, more so than the old NASCAR set-ups. I'm quite sure it is stripped of all amenities to get the weight as low as possible. 👍
@@josephtravers777 True, true, the "lightweight" specials were for racing to begin with so the factory left off things like sound deadening materials, radios, heaters (this was long before air conditioning was standard), rear seats and anything else not needed for racing.
I love seeing the differences in the types of cars and their approaches to racing. The big American cars are awesome, as are the smaller British cars. Of course, I am biased toward the Ford (being American), but I have mad respect for the Cortinas, Jags, and Minis. Great stuff.
There was a Plymouth in there as well I thought , but yes the Galaxy wailed on them never knew the blue oval beast could whip around as such on a track.
@@mkshffr4936 I noticed that the Galaxie's suspension seemed a bit ahead when taking it apart. The front spindles are cambered inward and the rear is actually three-link on coils. I think it was the only full-size car to have three-link that year.
This looks like a Gran Turismo 4 mission 😂 where you start in the back & they give you a big vintage american car to try to pass all of the small vintage cars by the end of the race 😊
Such an awesome, powerful car from the era that was raw men and metal. When most drivers were building their own cars if they weren't on the track racing them. . . . real 'stock car racing'. I felt such a feeling of relief that this treasure made it through without a scratch.
That aerial shot is so perfect at illustrating the differences between small, lightweight, nimble cars and massive, high HP muscle cars. I could’ve watched the whole race that way
The 1963 1/2 Ford Galaxie "fastback" with a FE 427ci V8, 425hp, with the top loader 4 speed and 9" rear end came out as I was graduating from high school. My friend's father was a California Highway Patrol officer and he bought one, brand new. When he drove by it was so exciting. An iconic American car. I also watched these Ford stock cars race in 1964 at the California State Fairground 2-mile oval dirt track in Sacramento, California.
Nice work with the drone shots during the live stream. I've seen drones used at the Nurburgting, but not at UK circuits before. So congrats for being innovative.
WOW! That's some serious racing skill! To take an old, heavy beast like the Galaxy and not only seriously compete, but, had he had a few more laps, may very well have taken first place!
Nice to see there’s at least one other viewer who doesn’t just think it was all about horsepower and top speed on the straights. Need to give the man some credit.🙂
I had to watch the last pass at 6:43 again and again! That was amazing! So similar to my absolute favorite pass in NASCAR by Dale Earnhardt at Riverside, CA.
@Captain MufDyven Don't forget , 12 miles per gallon, but petrol was only 25 cents per gallon. About 18p/litre. America: anything to excess, more cubic inches.
Growing up in Australia, I considered our cars to be sized in between American and European cars. My Scottish father told me that European cars were smaller because of their higher fuel prices. Aussie fuel prices were in between American and European.
@@PeterSnell9999 european taxes are not that big, if you want to talk about massive taxes basically annihilating anything but a tiny engine look at Japan, very few cars with more than 660cc engine displacement because of the taxes on anything larger. Its also why Japanese cars often have a lot of high tech stuff, its cheaper to do stuff like strapping a turbo on than just increasing displacement.
A simple racing "secret", it's not about how fast you can get in to the corner as how quickly you can come out of the corner, pedal to the metal, all crossed up, and using all of that lovely cast iron V8 torque... Addendum; doesn't work so well on tracks like the "Green Hell" (Nurburgring...).
Well you have a look at the aerial shot right near the end. The Cortina has better mid corner and exit speeds. Tordoff is simply getting the best exit speed possible for that car. Hint: maybe it has more to do with the driver than the engine…?
Ford galaxie.long wide low and those 427 thumps out enormous positivity to the rear ..for me it doesn't have to race to win..the way it ballerina the corners really boggle the mind.
Love this series! The best of the best, it shows the true dynamics of racing, heavy horse power heavy weight, handling not so much,, lighter weight, less power, great handling!! Walking the tightrope,, courage and endurance and aggression!! What’s not to love?? Who wins💜💜💜
Phenomenal racing! I just love the Galaxy, and that late pass partly in the weeds by Tordoff was amazing. The Cortinas are growing on me, they're pretty sharp.
i love watching these races, watching the big tanks race the minis and other cars is really fascinating, watching them sliding around corners reminds me of the time i had a 64 fairlane that i would take on rallies and i would do 4 wheel drifts on the gravel roads, so much fun with that car would love to get another when when i get the finances to do it.
Fantastic! Now I want to see the whole race! It seems loke the commentators were spending most of their time on the Ford Galaxy, passing everyone ahead of its starting place. This is REAL racing! It does seem strange seeing that huge Galaxy running with all the Minis. Vauxhalls, Jaguars, and other British cars! Thank you!!!
That beast is so well balanced thru the corners... what are the limitations on suspension? Can they use modern suspension and tires? Please tell me this isn't a live axel. I know it's a race car but it just seems a bit to elegant for 3600 +/- lbs. Kudos to the pilot!
They have to have period style suspension parts but they're fully adjustable ie much stiffer and lower than before. The cars also run on Dunlop Historic tyres.
@@oldlud8971 So the tire compound, grip rating, etc. would match some bias ply from 1968? The fully adjustable suspension does make me feel better. Watching that thing squeeze thru the chicane is jaw dropping. Thanks again. You sir, are a mensch.
This is cool the 63 Galaxy for me has to be one of the better ford designs everything about that car speaks to me and I am a mopar guy the body lines tail lights grill everything it's a slick car. Thier even was a 65 baracuda in that race not a fan of that early cuda 67-70+ cudas were some of the nices mopars.
Most don't realize, (especially non-Americans) that the NASCAR circuit tracks in the early-sixties were simple narrow flat tracks where handling, not outright speed was paramount.
@@fried1537 That category is stuffed now IMO. It's becoming formula Torana, LS engines being fitted in everything, and the early classics that were so great to watch have been squeezed out. I'd rather watch this.👍
Yes I remember the “ vertigo” beat half the whole entire grand tourismo game oh and my tuning gets me off the line every time it’s mostly in the transmission ! I will give only 1 insight first gear is only to get your weight off the line so you want it a short gear and as you get closer to top gear stretch it out.
It's like a waltz to the Ford, gracefully sweeping through the turns...just don't get in his way! THIS is real racing, not like the boredom of a NASCAR race...left turns only?? Really?
6:38 can explain what pure motorsport is. One day I'll come and see you all, thanking y'all for this and of course kissing you one by one in a perfect Roberto Benigni style to the 1999 oscars. Cheers from Italy.
Yea it's big, yea it's heavy, yea the brakes aren't up to the task but the front suspension design on those is actually very good. With all that it rules with massive torque and acceleration. Roughly double the weight of the other cars but probably triple the horsepower and torque. Put that in the same era Fairlane / Comet unibody chassis and the weight probably comes down to about 3000lbs in racing trim. Add some disk brakes as you were starting to see in around 65/66 and still the same powerplant and off to the races you go.
He's done it before you know... th-cam.com/video/ZV_6pzZ3Bpo/w-d-xo.html
Hes Speedracer of the 21st century
Is that Standard size wheels and tires on that Ford? Or was it some English formula or group racer?
When a galaxy is coming through, it's coming through.
Beep beep I've got 4 times the power
GET OUT OF MY WAY
@@TheBrainSpecialist 4 times the power, 2 times the car...and no bloody brakes.
@@cudwieser3952 These race modded ones have 4 wheel discs
But yeah, drums on these suckers would be scary
@@TheBrainSpecialist Even at that inertia, momentum and the limits if grip still dictate a lot. As good as discs are you can't just stand on them and expect a galaxy to stop as quick as a cortina.
@@TheBrainSpecialist I own a 64 galaxie XL with drums and trust me it doesn’t stop
I will always prefer these cars over any downforce car. They look cooler, they sound cooler, and the way they drive is just perfect to watch. Sliding round every corner.
I read an interview with Jim Hall, years ago. I recall him saying that the wings he used on cars and the downforce they generated have largely ruined motorsport. Wish I could find it; made for good reading.
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Watching the big car come BARRELING down the straights is just a fantastic sight, especially after it handles itself so well around the corners!
Yeah, the big girl definitely knows how to dance.
Check out the diameter of the front sway bar 😳
@@josephtravers777 That would be a frame member for most of the other cars in the race. That is likely one of the special "lightweight" models that tipped the scales at a mere 3400 pounds compared to the 3700 of the stock vehicle.
@@thomasb1889 The Galaxie surely needs stiffening in the front suspension to run a road course, more so than the old NASCAR set-ups. I'm quite sure it is stripped of all amenities to get the weight as low as possible. 👍
@@josephtravers777 True, true, the "lightweight" specials were for racing to begin with so the factory left off things like sound deadening materials, radios, heaters (this was long before air conditioning was standard), rear seats and anything else not needed for racing.
I love seeing the differences in the types of cars and their approaches to racing. The big American cars are awesome, as are the smaller British cars. Of course, I am biased toward the Ford (being American), but I have mad respect for the Cortinas, Jags, and Minis. Great stuff.
Powered by Ford
The cortinas are Ford as well.
There was a Plymouth in there as well I thought , but yes the Galaxy wailed on them never knew the blue oval beast could whip around as such on a track.
@@metalbob3335 Yes, a '65 Barracuda driven by Rowan Atkinson.
Of course, I am biased toward the Ford (being European).
Gotta chuckle when the mini challenges the Galaxie. Looks like a gnat bothering an elephant
An elephant that dances like Fred Astaire. It is amazing how well the big beast handles.
I believe the Mini holds (or held) the record for most wins of any car ever in sanctioned races. (Although I could well be wrong)
Remember size matter mates.
It would be a different matter if the Galaxy was running on original early 1960’s shocks, instead of modern replacements.
That #28 mini was all but drifting through the curves though, it is crazy fun driving something lightweight and underpowered like you stole it !
I love how you described the Galaxie as a "battleship". I love battleships and I love yank tanks.
Big, loud, heavy and muscle
@@lordhumungous7908 I love tanks and battleships as well
I would rather watch this than NASCAR
AWESOME!
And the Ford Galaxie dominated both!
I would rather watch paint dry than NASCAR, tbh.
Yes I agree 100%!! This was great! Ford power puttin the minis in there place!!
@james mccullough Bloody well right./Supertramp
@@markywellsboy2182 same thing paint drying and NASCAR no difference.
I have a '66 Galaxie and this gives me hope for my big brute.
Don't lie
Ford engineers knew a lot more about handling back in the day than they were given credit for. They can be made to do quite well when set up right.
@@mkshffr4936 I noticed that the Galaxie's suspension seemed a bit ahead when taking it apart. The front spindles are cambered inward and the rear is actually three-link on coils. I think it was the only full-size car to have three-link that year.
This looks like a Gran Turismo 4 mission 😂
where you start in the back & they give you a big vintage american car to try to pass all of the small vintage cars by the end of the race 😊
Ah the old one lap magic in the Buick or the three lap mission in the Plymouth Superbird 😂
Lol
I run road races and nothing is more exhilarating than rising from the back of the pack!
That would be my favourite mission! ^^
Such an awesome, powerful car from the era that was raw men and metal. When most drivers were building their own cars if they weren't on the track racing them. . . . real 'stock car racing'. I felt such a feeling of relief that this treasure made it through without a scratch.
That aerial shot is so perfect at illustrating the differences between small, lightweight, nimble cars and massive, high HP muscle cars.
I could’ve watched the whole race that way
Don’t get in the way of a determined man, it’ll only hurt you more as he get’s it done!
Beautiful race...
Seeing these vintage cars tracking so far out on exit is awesome! They must be sawing that wheel like crazy!
Better racing than today’s rubbish, nice to see ppl passing each other without wrecking cars also. Ah the old days 👌
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What ‘rubbish’ are you referring to?
That was an awesome pass on the grass!! He wouldn't be denied!!😃
I love watching that old FE churning up the track. What a monster!!
Always loved the 1963 427/2 4Brls. Carbs. 4spd. 425HP right off the show rm. floor. 😃
Please remember they were underrated.
I believe they were closer to 465 HP stock.
The 1963 1/2 Ford Galaxie "fastback" with a FE 427ci V8, 425hp, with the top loader 4 speed and 9" rear end came out as I was graduating from high school.
My friend's father was a California Highway Patrol officer and he bought one, brand new. When he drove by it was so exciting. An iconic American car.
I also watched these Ford stock cars race in 1964 at the California State Fairground 2-mile oval dirt track in Sacramento, California.
Love the commentary of you Brits !!!!
I’m loving the guts of that mini driver trying to keep up!
Nice work with the drone shots during the live stream. I've seen drones used at the Nurburgting, but not at UK circuits before. So congrats for being innovative.
The Galaxie: Kick in the secondaries and pass another one! 🤣
The mini Cooper is so cute to watch, when he takes a corner.
Remind me when Mr. Bean turning his car
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Old minis are so funny and cute lol
Thats the problem, Racing cars should NOT look cute.
Making me anxious all those classics racing so close together.
WOW! That's some serious racing skill! To take an old, heavy beast like the Galaxy and not only seriously compete, but, had he had a few more laps, may very well have taken first place!
Love this style of racing. The way the Minis 4 wheel-drift through corners is amazing.
i love the galaxie just puting to shame everything else
That was the driver, not the car.
I love 60s Ford's. Especially racing in today's time period.
Front end of the galaxy looks clean such a badass cool car
That was the finest thing I've seen all month.
Hilarious David and Goliath battle with the Minis in tow....and just for fun, a pass in the grass...thanks Goodwood
That was a fantastic race! Tordoff deserves a seat back in the BTCC for sure!
Nice to see there’s at least one other viewer who doesn’t just think it was all about horsepower and top speed on the straights. Need to give the man some credit.🙂
There's no substitute for cubic inches...
BOOST says "Hold my beer" 😎
"there's no replacement for displacement" is the term you're looking for :)
That Ford Guy you can take the beer, but mine runs on alcohol
As long as used well. Then yes. those 180 hp made from the Cadillac Coupe Deville with a staggering 7 litres would disagree to that statement.
Victor Persson you fail to mention they dyno at 800+ lb ft of torque
The galaxie is a criminaly underated car
It won loads of nascar events back in the day so no , it's not .
I had to watch the last pass at 6:43 again and again! That was amazing! So similar to my absolute favorite pass in NASCAR by Dale Earnhardt at Riverside, CA.
naa ... In Fernando Alonsos Words "he cut the chicken"
1987, passing Geoff Bodine. That was the real pass in the grass. Or pass in the sand, I suppose.
@@10zoll Even if he may have cut the corner a bit, it sure was an interesting sight to see.
Was that even legal tho?
@@lordzuzu6437 it might be because the Galaxie had the line and the speed but was forced off or would wreck
The 1963 Fords were some of the best looking cars that were ever made from the Falcon to the Galaxie
Really impressed! For a bunch of old cars these guys are goin all out! Love it
the front plate on the Galaxy should read "NO BRAKES' backward so the guys in front can read it in their mirror :D
whenever I watch these classic races, it always makes me laugh, to look at how much bigger the American cars are than the other cars. AMERICAN MUSCLE
@Captain MufDyven all in good jest of course but our british machines aren't dainty, they're well sized opposed to the american land yachts ;)
@Captain MufDyven Don't forget , 12 miles per gallon, but petrol was only 25 cents per gallon. About 18p/litre. America: anything to excess, more cubic inches.
@Captain MufDyven European exorbitant taxes on engine displacement determined that most cars would be small and tidy.
Growing up in Australia, I considered our cars to be sized in between American and European cars. My Scottish father told me that European cars were smaller because of their higher fuel prices. Aussie fuel prices were in between American and European.
@@PeterSnell9999 european taxes are not that big, if you want to talk about massive taxes basically annihilating anything but a tiny engine look at Japan, very few cars with more than 660cc engine displacement because of the taxes on anything larger. Its also why Japanese cars often have a lot of high tech stuff, its cheaper to do stuff like strapping a turbo on than just increasing displacement.
A simple racing "secret", it's not about how fast you can get in to the corner as how quickly you can come out of the corner, pedal to the metal, all crossed up, and using all of that lovely cast iron V8 torque...
Addendum; doesn't work so well on tracks like the "Green Hell" (Nurburgring...).
Well you have a look at the aerial shot right near the end. The Cortina has better mid corner and exit speeds. Tordoff is simply getting the best exit speed possible for that car. Hint: maybe it has more to do with the driver than the engine…?
This is pure racing at it’s best! So cool to watch these epic duels.
This races are so entertaining and you can actually see real driving skills, awesome.
Ford galaxie.long wide low and those 427 thumps out enormous positivity to the rear ..for me it doesn't have to race to win..the way it ballerina the corners really boggle the mind.
Love these old cars! That Galaxie is an incredible race car!!!
That Galaxie was running as if it was a living entity,not a car with a driver.🔥😵🔥
Reminds me in a very distant way of the cult classic film, 'The Car' or the Stephen King film, 'Christine'.
At 3:23, I slowed it down to 0.25x speed and watched that boat's line through the final chicane. Stupendous!
Love this series! The best of the best, it shows the true dynamics of racing, heavy horse power heavy weight, handling not so much,, lighter weight, less power, great handling!! Walking the tightrope,, courage and endurance and aggression!! What’s not to love?? Who wins💜💜💜
right around 6:50, is that a Studebaker?
Fantastic drive well done sam very entertaining
Excellent driving... beautiful car.
Epic! Amazing skills
Phenomenal racing! I just love the Galaxy, and that late pass partly in the weeds by Tordoff was amazing. The Cortinas are growing on me, they're pretty sharp.
i love watching these races, watching the big tanks race the minis and other cars is really fascinating, watching them sliding around corners reminds me
of the time i had a 64 fairlane that i would take on rallies and i would do 4 wheel drifts on the gravel roads, so much fun with that car would love to get
another when when i get the finances to do it.
outside of moss and his peers videos, this is the BEST racing vid i have ever scene...
oops: seen.
Frm my lounge chair , 3yr later. That was fun !!!
Fantastic! Now I want to see the whole race! It seems loke the commentators were spending most of their time on the Ford Galaxy, passing everyone ahead of its starting place. This is REAL racing! It does seem strange seeing that huge Galaxy running with all the Minis. Vauxhalls, Jaguars, and other British cars! Thank you!!!
The 1963 1/2 Galaxie is the sexiest full size car that’s ever been built. I’ll have one with the 406 or 427 happily
excellent racing, rather watch this then any nascar or F1 stuff
Love that Galaxie. Look at that thing handle. Couldn't take my eyes off it.
A family sedan American boat, and it is 3rd, and in a circuit race. 1960s Ford wasn't kidding.
American Old School muscle, with an outstanding driver.
This is cool as hell man love it!!!
Sam Tordoff really should be back in the BTCC! Along with a few other names aswell of course..
Good handling and a huge motor beats great handling and a tiny motor.
Not only the car had the horsepower to pass every one but a awesome driver!!!
That beast is so well balanced thru the corners... what are the limitations on suspension? Can they use modern suspension and tires? Please tell me this isn't a live axel. I know it's a race car but it just seems a bit to elegant for 3600 +/- lbs. Kudos to the pilot!
They have to have period style suspension parts but they're fully adjustable ie much stiffer and lower than before. The cars also run on Dunlop Historic tyres.
@@oldlud8971 So the tire compound, grip rating, etc. would match some bias ply from 1968? The fully adjustable suspension does make me feel better. Watching that thing squeeze thru the chicane is jaw dropping. Thanks again. You sir, are a mensch.
This is cool the 63 Galaxy for me has to be one of the better ford designs everything about that car speaks to me and I am a mopar guy the body lines tail lights grill everything it's a slick car. Thier even was a 65 baracuda in that race not a fan of that early cuda 67-70+ cudas were some of the nices mopars.
This man will NOT be denied!
This is hilarious and fantastic at the same time ! Absolutely love it 💪🏻🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
Most don't realize, (especially non-Americans) that the NASCAR circuit tracks in the early-sixties were simple narrow flat tracks where handling, not outright speed was paramount.
Now that was racing. Great job by the big Galaxy.
3:24 look how close that was!! Unbelievable driving!!
Ford Galaxies us a beast 🏁🏁🏁
Great racing, there's nothing in the modern categories that match the excitement of that. Real Cars with neanderthal aero and brakes, love it.👍
Check out touring car masters
@@fried1537 That category is stuffed now IMO. It's becoming formula Torana, LS engines being fitted in everything, and the early classics that were so great to watch have been squeezed out. I'd rather watch this.👍
That big V8 is the sound of Cortinas and Minis being eaten in big bites and swallowed whole.
There no replacement for displacement what a beast & what a drive from the galaxy....truly outa this world 😆
Yes I remember the “ vertigo” beat half the whole entire grand tourismo game oh and my tuning gets me off the line every time it’s mostly in the transmission ! I will give only 1 insight first gear is only to get your weight off the line so you want it a short gear and as you get closer to top gear stretch it out.
The Galaxie,a true car in the middle of toys!
A Mini almost fits in the trunk…
Which car won?
It's like a waltz to the Ford, gracefully sweeping through the turns...just don't get in his way!
THIS is real racing, not like the boredom of a NASCAR race...left turns only?? Really?
That Galaxy looks mean comen down the track I love it ,makes me wanna go drive my 86 notchback
Brilliant bit of driving a massive car so powerful 👍
God damn I love that Ford Galaxie.
That's some really good racing. They were definitely racing in anger! ;-)
How cool was that, great race.
That’s some awesome racing right there.
Incredible driving!!!!
Love that 63 Ford Galaxy. That was Ford's best year.👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I'd love to see what work was done to the suspension
That Ford is an animal
6:38 can explain what pure motorsport is. One day I'll come and see you all, thanking y'all for this and of course kissing you one by one in a perfect Roberto Benigni style to the 1999 oscars. Cheers from Italy.
Yea it's big, yea it's heavy, yea the brakes aren't up to the task but the front suspension design on those is actually very good. With all that it rules with massive torque and acceleration. Roughly double the weight of the other cars but probably triple the horsepower and torque. Put that in the same era Fairlane / Comet unibody chassis and the weight probably comes down to about 3000lbs in racing trim. Add some disk brakes as you were starting to see in around 65/66 and still the same powerplant and off to the races you go.
2:10 That size comparison tho
Could you imagine being in one of those tiny minis and this big ol beast galaxy is comin in hot in your rear view? This was cool thankyou
I love classic cars.❤👍
This is awesome 👍😊
gosh darn it I want one so badly!!!
I once had the pleasure of taking a lotus cortina ariund a track . Id love to have a go at a 63 1/2 galaxy. My absolute favourite car of all time
That aerial shot was awesome!
Yes. Explained a lot of what was going on.
Don't let her fool you, big girl can MOVE!
Hell yeah brother! Got all these tiny little cars and then the Ford Galaxie comes through