Spider Mastermind vs 10 Arachnotrons - Monster Infighting - Doom II Retro Battles

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  • @Tanooki88
    @Tanooki88 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The audacity of the 1v1! Poor little thing was frightened it ran away!! 🥺

    • @RaptorZer0
      @RaptorZer0 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No joke I actually felt bad for the arachnotron lol

    • @Cocobdoom
      @Cocobdoom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yea I got upset for a second

  • @marklarz4399
    @marklarz4399 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The 3rd round was like "OK, let's give the Spider Mastermind a chance"

  • @Big_Gulps_Huh
    @Big_Gulps_Huh ปีที่แล้ว +97

    The Arachnotrons do so much better when they're not blocking each other.

    • @brocksamson9737
      @brocksamson9737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same goes for spider Mastermind's as well or most any monster

    • @ironcito1101
      @ironcito1101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's worse for the hitscanners, they also hurt each other.

    • @chriswelcome8102
      @chriswelcome8102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You reckon? How about every other enemy in the game?

  • @ironcito1101
    @ironcito1101 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    4:44 is beautiful. How teamwork should always be.

  • @DrMxy
    @DrMxy ปีที่แล้ว +37

    All about who can stun-lock who first

  • @ggn3
    @ggn3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The fact Mama's chaingun is only effective on single enemies and the high firing rate of the plasma gun from the Arachnotrons made this a rather clear outcome, especially as you could do this on Maps 23 and 28 of Doom 2 to get around directly combatting the Mamas.

    • @krxwn3d275
      @krxwn3d275 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mama's? ...what is this Dusk?

    • @joseignaciogazzi3278
      @joseignaciogazzi3278 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In 32 in 64 Kb
      There are two levels that are named Dad and Mom.
      In Dad, there is a Cyberdemon.
      In Mom, there is a SpiderMastermind.

    • @jarnopalokari3702
      @jarnopalokari3702 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, she can take down multiple arachnotrons, as long she faces them one by one, and not all at once
      in maps they don't usually come in big groups, so mastermind mostly will win

    • @andyl8055
      @andyl8055 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On 23 it feels like it happens regardless of what you do. I've hidden from them as they've been revealed, come out and the MM is dead.

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She almost lost to a Chaingunner one time on this show. One fucking Chaingunner, who is worse in nearly every concievable way.

  • @MAZEMIND
    @MAZEMIND ปีที่แล้ว +24

    She just didn't want to kill her babies. 😉

  • @Blob123-3
    @Blob123-3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Spider mastermind is so weak

    • @tacosunbirth
      @tacosunbirth ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I mean, to be fair, Arachnotrons are pretty strong

    • @АлекСандр-ч7в1ш
      @АлекСандр-ч7в1ш ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, what a loser :|

    • @Yuuto_Katsuki
      @Yuuto_Katsuki ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@tacosunbirth Yeah, but the mastermind was the end boss of doom 1. For a final boss, this thing is a massive letdown. Tho I'm not sure what else could be done to make it more threatening besides increasing HP and damage. The only advantage it has is that it's hitscan.
      Arachnotrons are supposed to be less treatening than the mastermind.

    • @tacosunbirth
      @tacosunbirth ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Yuuto_Katsuki Nothing short of a cyberdemon is going to stand a chance against 10 Arachnotron's concentrated fire. I played Doom, I know the Spider Mastermind is underwhelming, but people greatly exaggerate how weak it is. It can take out a Cyberdemon, for Christ's sake

    • @Yuuto_Katsuki
      @Yuuto_Katsuki ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@tacosunbirth Ok true, the arachnotrons are pretty OP, but for some reason, whenever the mastermind fought the cyberdemon, and I've seen it plenty of times in my playthroughs, the spider only won once or twice against the cyber...was it really really bad luck on the spider?

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the "shutdown" sound

  • @TheJamesSCO
    @TheJamesSCO ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Arachnotrons so brutal on nightmare lol. Still love the SMM alert sound tho, to this day it's still the best sound in the game. (Followed closely by the Cacodemon)

  • @rugalbernstein7822
    @rugalbernstein7822 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    First fights are actually fair while the future ones were very unfair

    • @laughingalex7563
      @laughingalex7563 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not really, masterminds were given f- tier by decino for a reason.

    • @kjullthedemon
      @kjullthedemon ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Spidermastermind was clearly designed to be anti player, and even that, she's not very good at. She's clunky, she attacks slow, and do quite pathetic damage.

  • @raptordan166
    @raptordan166 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    if the SMM had a miniscule chance to stun and a higher health pool, it would've fared better as a boss in an open area

    • @roodledoot
      @roodledoot ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She needs like the Arch-Vile's level of flinch resistance to move out of F tier

  • @emiliogarcialeon8249
    @emiliogarcialeon8249 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Mastermind has no chance against a fully coordinated attack!!

  • @daytonrom4453
    @daytonrom4453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Revenants vs. hell knights!

  • @andyl8055
    @andyl8055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hah! When I saw the title I thought "Mastermind gonna get et"

  • @ProjectDevilEye
    @ProjectDevilEye ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Poor mastermind wasn't designed to combat multiple enemies at once and that's painfully obvious.

  • @Brentastrophe
    @Brentastrophe ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Poor little 1 v 1 guy got blasted on nightmare

  • @Nk-ti4st
    @Nk-ti4st ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They get stunned very easily, and keep being stunned when continuously shot. That's why they are easy to kill. Cyber doesn't get stunned easily. They can be really tough if they were not easy to stun.

  • @edfrees
    @edfrees ปีที่แล้ว

    1v1 was hilarious. the small one didnt even bother

  • @w.a.a.m
    @w.a.a.m ปีที่แล้ว +3

    La mamá enfrentando a sus hijos

  • @simtexa
    @simtexa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It appears that for some reason, the arachnotrons are more coordinated and less likely to get in each other's firing range on higher difficulties. They will also focus fire on a specific enemy, effectively stun-locking them.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used infighting and a single arachnotron on the factory level of Doom II to kill two or three mancubi one time.

    • @youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939
      @youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve never looked at _DOOM_ ‘s source code, but from this video it looks like the arachnatron’s appear more coordinated on Nightmare because their engagement range is greater than usual, and so, not needing to move to engage the spider mastermind, they don’t get the opportunity to block each other

    • @NoName-dc5df
      @NoName-dc5df ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939 They are more aggressive, so they're more likely to attack then move if they have a clear line of sight.

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939 -Beat me to it...

    • @laughingalex7563
      @laughingalex7563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939. Not reslly range so much as the AI is programmed to fire whenever its enemy is in sight rather than move on nightmare or fast monsters is enabled.

  • @kevinalex7905
    @kevinalex7905 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video friend 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Ded_Skelet
    @Ded_Skelet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Children of the Corn: Doom style"

  • @WickedParanoid
    @WickedParanoid ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So this is what they call "rebellious phase", eh?

  • @od6421
    @od6421 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Spider Mastermind is a punk. Always has been, always will be

  • @alexeipino3994
    @alexeipino3994 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Now lets turn the babies against their momma!"

  • @runawaycat4594
    @runawaycat4594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:15 FLAWLESS VICTORY

  • @SuperTrucker2019
    @SuperTrucker2019 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who else notices that the Arachnotron has a much lower rate of fire with its plasma gun than DOOM Guy's plasma gun?

    • @dmatech
      @dmatech ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Player: 700 shots per minute. Arachnotron: 263 shots per minute. Incidentally, the Cacodemon's projectiles do exactly the same damage as the plasma gun balls shot by the Arachnotron and the player (but they shoot much more slowly).

    • @SuperTrucker2019
      @SuperTrucker2019 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dmatech Cool! I did not know that. Thanks!

  • @johnlewisbrooks
    @johnlewisbrooks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you do pinkies vs spider masterminds?

    • @ShadyBase
      @ShadyBase ปีที่แล้ว

      Pinkies are masterminds wordt nightmare. It only takes two pinkies to fuck her up.

  • @w.a.a.m
    @w.a.a.m ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Si es mano a mano ella apenas se despeina

  • @woodboy23
    @woodboy23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could tell that spider mastermind could not even kill her children

  • @Silks
    @Silks ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely wrecked

  • @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff
    @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There's a reason decino marked her as F-tier.

    • @Jurgen123445
      @Jurgen123445 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But that reason is not her weakness against Arachnotrons.

    • @laughingalex7563
      @laughingalex7563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jurgen123445 pretty much due to her never posing an adequete threat throughout any of doom 1 or 2. Or even TNT or plutonia.

    • @Jurgen123445
      @Jurgen123445 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@laughingalex7563 Right, she doesn't pose an adequate thread because she is placed under a crusher. Or infighting with a Cyberdemon. Or because there are several invulnerability spheres near her. It doesn't have to do anything with her stats.

    • @stankgangsta4105
      @stankgangsta4105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Jurgen123445 Agreed. I fear multiple Spidermasterminds more than any other demon.

  • @pchound5962
    @pchound5962 ปีที่แล้ว

    When mommy and the kids argue about washing dishes.

  • @francescoperi7810
    @francescoperi7810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What parenting feels like...

  • @danielsoto5517
    @danielsoto5517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arachnotrons are pretty deadly actually.

    • @zappafurious
      @zappafurious หลายเดือนก่อน

      They, along with mancubi, are deadly simple

  • @vicioenviciado6999
    @vicioenviciado6999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ganará alguna vez la mastermind? no se lo pierdan en nuestro próximo episodio

  • @ireneparkin3360
    @ireneparkin3360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No wonder Decino put the Spider Mastermind as F in his tier list videos.

    • @andyl8055
      @andyl8055 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tests have been done with a modded SMM with an instant attack animation (rather than its brief pause). It's absolutely lethal. In its original state its slow attack animation means you only have to trigger the pain state within that window, which isn't actually that hard.

  • @chpsilva
    @chpsilva ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Typical iD boss: lots of hitpoints, zero AI.

  • @kevinalex7905
    @kevinalex7905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spider demon vs barón hell demons vs soldado ametralladora

  • @MsLoquendo20
    @MsLoquendo20 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny how is it that in almost all of these battle, the decisive trait tht end up¿s mattering the most isn't power, speed or amount of health, but rate of pain chane to stun lock enemies owo

  • @dbodooley
    @dbodooley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The arachnotrons have the strongest firepower of the non bosses.

  • @djvoid1
    @djvoid1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They grow up so fast...

  • @ethanobrien7616
    @ethanobrien7616 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like the kids (arachnotrons) are beating the mother to death (spider mastermind)

  • @mir3877
    @mir3877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These kids add their papa for lunch

  • @jaredeaves4543
    @jaredeaves4543 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It always comes down to stunlock

  • @Mario_64160
    @Mario_64160 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:18 spider Mastermind okay the first round was rigged you guys were cheating

  • @mr.pavone9719
    @mr.pavone9719 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not even going to finish this

  • @kevinalex7905
    @kevinalex7905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spider demon vs cyber demon vs barón hell demons o all enemigos all demons pero vs

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spidermama's pain state is triggered too easily. That's partly why she's not that scary to encounter in game, you can just blast her once and run away.

  • @williamsmith666
    @williamsmith666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It takes two or three to fell a Mastermind in the wild. Why even bother with 10?

    • @joeschmoe6908
      @joeschmoe6908 ปีที่แล้ว

      This test actually makes the mastermind look better since the arachs keep blocking each other.

  • @RandomPerson-hd6wr
    @RandomPerson-hd6wr ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought the arachnotron was the spider master mind

  • @SheeshThatCat
    @SheeshThatCat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mod name if you are using one?

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi ปีที่แล้ว

    Next up, Safer Sephiroth versus ten Materia Keepers.
    I have no idea how many people will get that joke but...

  • @commanderdon4300
    @commanderdon4300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 1v1 on nightmare needs a re-do until the Arachnotron fires first, i bet it will win that one then.

    • @andyl8055
      @andyl8055 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually probably not. Pain state has a chance to trigger every time damage is inflicted, and the arachnotron plasma doesn't actually hit that frequently. The SMM will get an attack in sooner or later, and then the arachnotron is toast.
      Check out the chaingunners vs SMM video this guy did. One chaingunner almost killed the SMM, but even with its extremely fast damage rate the SMM managed to attack eventually.

  • @danielhero2132
    @danielhero2132 ปีที่แล้ว

    Afrit VS Cybruiser

  • @Boneripper16
    @Boneripper16 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spider Mastershame

  • @ShwappaJ
    @ShwappaJ ปีที่แล้ว

    The Arachnotrons are much smarter rather than stronger on Nightmare...

  • @Borderlinepenguin
    @Borderlinepenguin ปีที่แล้ว

    This should be in eternal

  • @thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
    @thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saddest shit i have ever seen

  • @SuperTrucker2019
    @SuperTrucker2019 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they gave the Spider Mastermind a plasma gun, I believe she'd beat even the Cyberdemon. A chaingun simply isn't as potent.

    • @andyl8055
      @andyl8055 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interestingly, the SMM weapon isn't a chaingun as much as a rapid fire shotgun (based on how the weapon works). It's shooting multiple pellets in a spray multiple times a second.

  • @Jolietisbased
    @Jolietisbased ปีที่แล้ว

    Smm has a high ass pain chance to be a boss

  • @kevinalex7905
    @kevinalex7905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loooool

  • @johnnybravo9096
    @johnnybravo9096 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Worst boss ever

  • @danarcher3415
    @danarcher3415 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big stupid spiders walk too much