@@PortalsMediaNetwork You don't know who is John Anosike. You don't have revelation of him in the spirit and you speak in the flesh... John Anosike is the most important person in the plans of God on this Earth and he is the one that is fighting with the principalities and powers in the air and this is the reason for wich the kingdom of God will come on the Earth. Don't miss what i told you because there's no grater than John Anosike on the Earth in this end times. Also he is not offended but point the fact that our righteousness is in Christ Jesus. Don't be stupid, because with your comments and videos you work for the devil and help for the devision in the body of Christ. That's why better find some other things to do for money. Don't think that i am someone that like to argue... No i telling you these things because soon God will make all the world including the church to come under the mentorship and leading of John Anosike! You will see!
Arome is a liar, he always make up Visions encounter stories. The other day he said Jesus walk into His room bear feet and he walk to Jesus and said what is the problem, why are you barefoot. So unblical field with lies to appear spiritual, nothing to learn or received from that vain story, matter of fact it attacking chhrist Jesus
There are many bodies of Christ, John Anosike belongs not to the Body of Christ, he owns a real himself, He is king of his own fiefdom, he doesn't belong to the body of Christ! No.man who belongs to the body of Christ comes to the defense of a rapist and a sorcerer like TB Joshua. Re Mathew 24 v 24
😢what a shame for de body of Christ .Instead of bringing de body together de Shepherd is tearing each other down. That's why I love Pastor Robert Morris he goes out of his to bring de body of Christ together but in Africa they tear each other down.😢😢
All these things happening were concocted in the dark world with a high level of intelligence to cause division. There is a revival about to happen. So, the dark kingdom wants to destabilize the younger generations by causing them to be unsure of whom to follow. But in all these things, the Wisdom of God is in play. We'll learn to seek, find, and know God for ourselves, and then walk in unity, which will be the sign for the coming revival Let's not judge these matters by ourselves. In all these, God's wisdom is in play 🙏
The man who make this videos is the reason for the fights between the men of God... If the same didn't open this chanel to make money it will not be happened!
I love John he is on the next level of anointing if you follow him he talk a lots about holiness and obedience to God be pure and honest he literally says to blockers if you know what you doing be careful because you not mess with anybody you mess with the anointed of God
I love the 2 Pastors ...even if God call me perfect ...may I HV no word to speak but to hide under the covering of the blood that gave me the gift of righteousness by grace alone
I don't care what people say about Papa John, all I know is that he really is a man of God, the bible says that we must test the spirits... and you failed... we perish due to a lack of knowledge.
I@@oyedeleajayi9442 it was very clear he wasn't doing that,he was simply stating the fact that fornication takes place in the heart period,. He was just stating a fact, which is,I don't think he meant to attack apostle arome ,and he wasn't even attacking him, let's be fair he was only stating what the scripture said . Bloggers can make you see what they want you to see. As for me am blessed to have both of the man of God ❤.
There are many bodies of Christ, John Anosike belongs not to the Body of Christ, he owns a real himself, He is king of his own fiefdom, he doesn't belong to the body of Christ! No.man who belongs to the body of Christ comes to the defense of a rapist and a sorcerer like TB Joshua. Re Mathew 24 v 24
obviously sir is what the enemy wants a kingdom divided against itself the 1st video was filtered to the exact point for damage, which trended pst John may be judging from that stand point, if so that is hmmm. Believers ought to face kingdom mandates and crisis in the kingdom ought to responded in like manner.
To me I think this things is very clear, One I love both of the man of God ❤. Second pastor is no respecter of man which is good. If we check very well,he was simply stating what the scripture said about fornication that even though you might have not conceive it physically, but if you've thought of it you've committed fornication period.
To me I think this things is very clear, One I love both of the man of God ❤. Second pastor is no respecter of man which is good. If we check very well,he was simply stating what the scripture said about fornication that even though you might have not conceive it physically, but if you've thought of it you've committed fornication period.
Yes by Grace of God, But do you have to say He will fall, when he was very clear he is not exalting Himself but show distinction between those who are ministry for self gain
Does that Grace support sin especially fornication? What an End time! Even a goat will not go mate with a dog! Grace doesn't water down Discipline. Grace is a capacity to overcome sin. To say NO to sin....
@@neulite24 u have answered it well but was arome saying it from a place of love or from a place of pride rlthat was what pastor John wasost focused on
@@neulite24sun is sin fornication lie self righteousness theif we have many only fornication u people are shouting up and down read your Bible Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
What Arome said is scriptural. Samuel said the same thing in 1 Samuel 12:3. Apostle Arome was not being boastful; he explained why he said what he said.
No, Arome said it from a different angle.Those biblical figures he was quoting spoke those words at the end of their ministry,and they never compared themselves to someone else.But Arome is trying to say,he is the only one sinless as regards external affairs.
@@AlfredPaul-y7m When the apostles declared the same thing in their Epistles, it wasn't at the end of their ministry. Pastor John just spoke grievance. Look at the disdain with which he spoke against Apostle Arome, and then crowned his utterance with a pessimistic prediction, you will know that he never liked Apostle Arome even before this issue came up.
Every word that comes from our mouths will give an account. Let's not be distru cted the devil is dividing the body of Christ. Wish both servents of God would not respond against each other. Continue the good work you are doing we love you. Jesus never got worried about who is accusing about what He continued with His assignment that's all. I've been called names not by unbelievers but by the brethrens but I did not responded not because I am intelligent, but told to be quite God took over the situation. I may know all the verses but if He didn't say I must respond, I mustn't
@patriciarex1926 Pastor John is wrong on this one. He twisted scriptures to fit the narrative. Don't just swallow things men of God of our generation say. Get into the word for yourself. If you are a child of God, you also have the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth. Arome said he didn't say that to boast about himself. Of course, it is the grace of God. So, why pastor John was emotionally angry about that, I wouldn't understand.
Masa, real man of God don’t go against men of God but rather to preach the word of Christ Is a childish to tarnish your fellow pastors all in the name of quantity
@@ndzabenhlemagagula I perceive there is something going on with pastor John. I'm trying to put my finger on it. I was endeared to pastor John because of his emphasis on holiness and concencration but recently, he has been saying and doing things that are in stark contrast with what he preaches. Sad!
Gods power at work in us, to keep us pure and Holy. Why should we not boast in Christ Jesus. Holiness is 1 Tim 4:12. There are believers whom Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself rescued while very young, raised them before they got deep into the world. They came to Him early; learn and understood the word. They put in all efforts possible to stay in the word and run away from hidden sin, as they continue to seek Purity and Holiness. Their words in this area, is a testimony work by Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself and it should not be hidden that we are the same. The journey of a believer is interesting. We overcame by the blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself and we continued to resist this specific temptations. We keep running away from sin. Such efforts of grace; actions of grace; coupled with the word of God; the power that workerth in us; should be encouraged so the world can see and be saved that Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself can bringforth this type of testimonies to His own glory. It is also good for the young people to learn and know that this type of strict disciplined life; is possible in Christ Jesus of Nazareth
He can't fall man of God. How are you wishes other man to fall. What is going on in the body of Christ today. God help us,all these father attacking one another, what do expect the young generation to do.
The Body of Christ should stop fighting its self, we need to build up our body. Pastor John's response here isn't necessary but do I believe in his teaching yes. Apostle Arome Osayi statement isn't bad,every true Minister of Christ should do the same.
As an intercessor for the deep things in the heart of God Ahayah Ashar AHaYah Adonai Elohim El Shaddai Yahuah Immanuel Ancient of Days. I can sense the spirit of Divination, Compromise, and mixture of strange fire 🔥 in the teachings and frequency of Pastor John Anosike. Now I discern that Apostle Arome Osayi had the mantle he carries comes from the LORD Jesus Christ Yeshua Yahusha Ancient and not Men, Divination, or strange fire 🔥.
Arome is a preacher of Grace but frown at people that Abuse Grace and mind you he wasn't claiming righteous because in most of his teaching he talks about how he was battling with the spirit of lust before he overcame it by prayer. I believe it is a great testimony. Secondly This bible verse from pastor john should not give men of God liberty to behave anyhow. Arome has said it all and he wasn't being boastful but stating a standard that men of God must emulate. What pastor John said should not be a new testament testimony infact Jesus was referring to people that embraced the law about forgiveness and grace and that was before his death. So every new testament believer must have a testimony of living a holy life. If there is a mistake on the way there must be a quick restitution not to lingering in the act. That is why I love u channel . no true child of God would say Arome is not A true man of God. Take it or leave it
The issues of prophet TB JOSHUA bring this issues arome was mocking TBJ about the bbc document let tell you if you don't know Arome may not sleep with other lady but there are many way he sins against God think about two people went to temple for prayer republican and pharisee read the story with understand u will know who and who is saying the truth
Pastor John called that boast and pride? Maybe we should tag apostle paul then as a boaster when he said " I pray in tongues more than ye all". Because an Apostle was laying a solid emphasis of which nobody will accept on his purity and now another pastor is misunderstanding him in another context or way round. Abba! We really need to get our priorities right. And can he just stop those assumptions of his, saying if apostle arome hasn't thought of immoral stuffs within his mind, that he should speak up and he was even saying something relating to apostle arome, that he will be exposed. I tag all these as envyness. Truth be told. And all these was coming from the phase of apostle arome speaking the truth always and of which many preachers of nowadays can't even make an attempt to speak any, Instead they will be spicing it up with the good part so as for the people not to be angry with them. And someone like apostle arome is not even bothered. I am not saying all these this because I love apostle arome, I am saying this because i am an advocate of truth and that is why I cannot see what is wrong and I will be spicing it up or covering it up with false. Pastor John should calm down and he should understand apostle's emphasis. He should even make a reminisce on what Apostle Paul said concerning his spiritual life in the place of speaking in tongues than the people he was writing the letter to. Or we will still call that one boast again. If you've succeeded in your place of standing strong through the grace and strength of God, be bold to talk about it. Why won't he relate it to other pastor's, when it that it all the pastors of these days now that is involving in all manners of immorality and they will still come and be holding the microphone to vibrate. The body of Christ must be positioned into that phase of balance again. And as for you dear reader, be an advocate of truth and be ready to stand against what is wrong. Selah!
the Pastor John you are talking about has more emphasis on holiness and righteousness than any African preacher across the World.....go do your findings.... tell me what are you even saying? does Pastor John look to you like someone who will be envious of a mans "righteous" works...what are you saying Sir.. you guys kept mentioning Apostle Pauls speaking wrongly...and i cant help but think out loud that the average believer dont know or do proper bible interpretation.....cos if you do, that scripture wont be what you will use as juxtaposition..i rest!
@@joelasuku9599 Your error here speaks so much of the fact that you gave your pastor a grade about his Spiritual life or life over every other preachers. I Don't even understand where you people are getting all these energy from, should we call it deception or what exactly? The moment there is a blind fold of insight, discernment becomes a rag to tear off. What pastor john is laying emphasis on is coming from the place of bitterness and the inability to understand the context behind the detailed words that apostle arome gave. These days everyone is avoiding to speak the truth. You better crave for the discerning Spirit so you will know which preacher is speaking directly from God and not. Selah!
@@nathanielakanbi well, you dont know me afterall.....i am not a follower or fan of either Pst John or Apostle Arome, am very neutral and hat is why i can speak objectively...but since you said i speak error, irest my case Sir
@@joelasuku9599 maybe we can say it other way round that before you speak objectively sir, you'd first try to compare the measures of what you are about to dig out first so you won't speak as though you were assuming or giving an appraisal to someone operating in whatever kind of authority. Authorities varies I believe you'd know, the one from God and the one from the devil. Discernment is the key stuff here, so you won't be misguided. Selah!
we will keep attacking falsehood until evil will be uprooted from the root. let revote against falsehood ministers so that darkness will be shifted in our land
Chriantains don't boast, we testify... I love both pastors and i listen to Their messages a lot but sometimes we should know that they are men and they can make mistakes ,read Jeremiah 9:23...we can testify of the goodness and mercies of God but we cannot boast of it because by the arm of flesh shall " No man prevail". Not some men...this is why we need to read the bible for ourselves as we learn from our pastors so we can decern what is true and right.
We can boast in the Lord. Apostle Paul boasted in the Lord a few times. Why will any Christian not celebrate God's grace in keeping a man sexually pure in this horrible world where lust is rampaging lives even of so called preachers? And to think that someone will be incensed at such testimony is the height of inpenitence.
@@andidawasPaul alluded to the fact that he boasted and that it wasn’t a good thing to do, please read again the passage. Yes we can boast in the Lord a kind of boasting that God approves.
Pastor John Anosike the bondservent of Christ is 💯🔥...he is a man of actions not words. He has been used by God mightly to save many from deception. The judgement belongs to Yeshua alone. God will increase him in the coming days like nobody can expect. Hallelujah🔥
Our problem is fighting each other's by pretending to be right. Jesus was that humble person on planet earth. Can we come together and stop pretending to be the best infact your reward has been given already.
Judgement belongs to God. Why waste your time focusing on other people doing s. Focus on your race to live a righteous life and to be with Jesus Christ one day. God is the only Judge.
Still on that, its still the grace of God that kept him. How about the little boy that got slept with by an older teenage girl, as in the cases of sexual abuse at ages that they dont know their left from right. Its just Gods goodness keeps every one of us...
Let he that boasts, boast in Christ. I stand completely with what Pastor John Anosike said. For me, the best testimony of God's strength is seen in the helpless state of mankind (the flesh). The heart of man (mortal man) is desperately wicked, it is the Holy Spirit that put us straight. So if I boast of my right-standing without referencing the role of the Holy spirit and God's divine intervention, I am subjected to error. Peter boasted through his flesh that he will stand with Christ even when others leave not knowing he will deny his saviour three good times. "Help me God, for I cannot help myself" 🙏🙏.
For you to come to a submission, you must listen to the whole message . Apostle Arome said that he didn't say it to exalt himself. Is it not this same Pastor Anosike that told his members to pay their first fruits to him . 😊😊😊
@@olumuyiwa1005 I've listened and watched it over and over again before making that comment. It's the same thing as boasting in what you claimed you did by yourself and when you realise you've gone too far in it, you then summarized with "to God be the glory" ; When you actually was glorifying yourself and the excellency of your self-discipline. No one can sugarcoat that
I think Pst John's anger is coming from the fact that himself and Apst Osayi has contrary claim about Tb Joshua. It's very controversial to hear Osayi say that Tb Joshua is not of God with scriptural proof and Pst John said that Tb Joshua is a man sent from God. I think that's one major issue that has put them on contrary pages. That did not go well with Pst John, because if he is affirming Tb Joshua's spiritual personality and another respectful man of God is saying the opposite then that calls for some check. That's why he was quick to say that Apst Osayi will have a great fall instead of praying for him with the love of God as a fellow labourer in the vineyard of Christ Jesus
Aha! You have just spoken my mind. You are smart😊 Exactly! I think this has to do with their divergent opinions on TB Joshua. Pastor John has openly supported TB Joshua while Apostle Arome has openly rebuked him. I have been an ardent follower of pastor John to the extent of even visiting his church in Cape Town. However, his position on certain issues and quest for financial gains ( my opinion) has made me to start having a rethink about him. He is currently in Abuja for a program and my kids are surprised that I'm not attending considering that we live in Abuja. Let me continue to seek God for myself.
@@norawilliams9952I’m in the exact situation that you are in regarding pastor John Anosike especially as it pertains to some of his stance on certain contentious issues. I’m really at a crossroad. But just like you I’ll start seeking God for myself.
You know sometimes some people just because they’ve been doing it, they now think it’s not possible to one to keep such purity. So when another person is testifying about such things they begin to name call him and try to defame
My dear I really wonder. If someone has appropriated grace to live right when is it a crime to speak about it and even make it bold not everyone is in Ministry for what they will get
If Arome would only say,by God's grace,I have never touched an external woman,no one would rebuke him.But what he asked at the end of his statement is irritating,he said,if you are a man of God and has lived righteously like me, come out and say it. Now,what does he try to convey?
Pastor Arome was trying to make a point. Pastor John also had a Point. It must be stated clearly that the both of them were not addressing the same issue. Arome was addressing the Notion of Generalizing all pastors to their response, John was addressing the Subtle Pride it was spoken with. Both of them should have done better in their delivery. I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THIS SUBTLE PRIDE WITH SOME BRETHREN IN THE APOSTOLIC MINISTRY. IT'S BECOMING WORRISOME.
I can assure you its bigger than just what he said, you won't wish a man fall and even say if he doesn't come out to apologize publicly grace would be withdrawn, that's an addition, Moreso the 'boast' was made in context of a subject he was dealing with. John Anosike responded to a 1min clip. Take it for free it's bigger than just the one minute clip. Moreso same Anosike said ministers should not be corrected when bloggers was on him, now he has turned around to do same. The last time he spoke on Prophet Emmanuel Makandiwa he added somewhat decorum, even went ahead to say Holyghost should forgive him he is not suppose to speak about men of God. But here you're turning round to use derogatory words on someone. Well he is planning entry back to His country Nigeria. He is welcomed
Moreso Arome was addressing Pastors not Ordinary believers. Pastors are the only set of of believer with criteria in the scriptures that must be met before you become one. believers don't require any criteria but for pastors there are clear cut instructions why is it so? God doesn't owe any Man Ministerial call he only owe you salvation which he has paid. if you must be be a pastor its not a place for loose people. you're entrusted with peoples life and you will account for it. its a serious place not to be taken likely, any Pastor offended by that. its strange, i mean he was addressing Pastors not Just ordinary Believers oh! HABA. there should be clear cut, if one is still struggling with such he should step down first, and deal with, don't destroy life entrusted to one's hand
@@PortalsMediaNetwork do you have any idea how bias you are? am not suprised because almost all of your videos is commentaries on Apostle Arome Osayi and his clan....if truly this channel is for the body and not a denomination,you will o well to be more neutral......dont be bias and listen to Pastor John Anosike again....he has a point you are either denying or not paying attention to..... DO BETTER!!!!!
AGAIN YOU DONT MAKE BOOST OF WHAT THE LORD DO THROUGH YOU or in you, STOP READING SCRIPTURE VOID OF CONTEXT.....am amazed how you do your own apologetics.......the Apostolic ministry in the last decade has been laced with lot and lot boostful speaking, the honor i have for them wont allow me mention names and statements.....and that is coming from the robust dealings God had with them...but listen, the fact that it is popular doesnt it make it right!!!!!!!......go and listen to partriachs who had done mighty apostolic ministry in the past....something is wrong!!!!the Apostolic ministry needs to " calm down"
Youre mixing things up.. Apostle Arome is Raising a Standard of how Men of God should be living....even as unknown as i am i will boldly say I have never slept with any woman Since i gave my life to Christ. Its not to make boast in the flesh but the same Grace available for us all...Otherwise why would God put someone in hell for sexual inpurity if its not sonething dangerous, and if its something dangerous then we must be proud not to be part of it.
i guess God stopped sending men to hell for lies,anger,blasphemy, envy, lasciviousness.....brother let me ask, have you done any of this since you gave your life to christ? maybe you need to gt born again again.. Shalom
@@joelasuku9599 you know not the scriptures and the Power of God. We were not talking about other sins, if we were talking about Sins that's would have been different...but here Apostle was talking about sexual sins which has destroyed many preachers....and he was expressing how that many false preachers engage is such acts and also that if a survey is conducted of that aspect many preachers will fail...this he said not justifying himself but expressing how depraved many Christian's are... Anosike now took that to mean Apostle was bragging and gloating about his self righteousness which was wrong.. Finally my brethren all other sin a man commits is without but Sexual sin destroys faster and addicts more dangerously.....He that have hear met him hear what Apostle Arome is saying to the Churches.
God bless you my brother. I wonder what the strife was all about. I see no reason for the open rebuke from Pastor John. Apostle Arome is hilarious. Sometimes you might be drawn away by his sense of humor and then feel some ventilation because his teachings are hard truths.
@@pro_Abi7you clearly don't know what truth is, if you read your bible well enough you won't make such a remark, Samuel came out to do such, Apostle Paul did the same thing, yet you are here supporting a man that is clearly in wrong without any scriptural justification of his offense in apostle Arome statement.
2 Corinthians 11:12-14 NLT But I will continue doing what I have always done. This will undercut those who are looking for an opportunity to boast that their work is just like ours. [13] These people are false apostles. They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. [14] But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
Why are u angry though....I don't see anything wrong with arome said, it's okay to hate sin..... Shall we not boost of what the lord has done for us...... GOD is about to expose all them
Something has put him on edge. He came to US and said that the church need to return to purity & here he’s so sensitive when Apostle Arome Asai eluding to purity. 🚩
@@peterchimboyli455 Exactly! I think this has to do with their divergent opinions on TB Joshua. Pastor John has openly supported TB Joshua while Apostle Arome has openly rebuked him. I have been an ardent follower of pastor John to the extent of even visiting his church in Cape Town. However, his position on certain issues and quest for financial gains ( my opinion) has made me to start having a rethink about him. He is currently in Abuja for a program and my kids are surprised that I'm not attending considering that we live in Abuja. Let me continue to seek God for myself.
U guys u don't know pastor john anosike, that is a man of SPIRIT REALMS, he is not listening and looking in a human flesh, he saw it in the SPIRIT wat that man and how he talk
1 Corinthians 9:15 “But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast.” This is Apostle Paul speaking here , so where did Aps Arome go wrong
The wicked flee when no one pusures him.. He sounds like he has hidden skeleton in his secret places. But Whatever is hidden will come to light weither we like it or not.. God help us.
Apostle Arome Osayi has done what Prophet Samuel did. I love this yhat someone can come out to say this. Not stories of immortality all the time. They went out because they know they dont know God and Jesus knew that. A teacher came out and say he is chaste and you are angry. What are you angry? What Apostle Arome Osayi said is not pride. He hasnt done it in his imagination. Everyone is not like most of us.
Gawwd, we have a problem o in the body of Christ... See what our fathers are doing 😪... Why would apst. John Anosike say he would fall... If something else... He would have just corrected apst. Arome in Love and Wisdom... But saying... He would fall.. really seems somehow to me😞..
We were all sinner in any way. Sin is not only sleeping with awomen but sin is sin. We also think sleeping with a man or awomen is sin. You can not be a sleeping with any but you are fighting something in your life. If we were righteous then what are we doing here on plant earth. Arome can be focusing on sex and what about pride,jealous,envy,scamming people.
Apostle Arome Osayi didn't say it with pride... He said he isn't boastful about what he said, why would Anosike said one teacher who claim to be a teacher, with pride from the pit of hell... 😢 i even though they are both having thesame Holy Spirit... Anosike should have descern what Arome said and what he meant by what He said from revelation knowledge
Pastor John is real and not fake oOoOO, Apostle Arome Osayi is real and not fake oOoOO. They are all true Ministers of God, but if they make mistake, they should be left for God to judge. Unless obviously contrary to the word of God
Arome is talking of the doing and John is talking of imagination. And besides, what is John preaching here? That people should keep sinning? John is understanding the power of God's word and grace. Doesn't he know that when we truly come to God, he changes us? He changes even our thoughts. There is a wave that is indirectly exposing falsehood.
@@mamatope4199 ain't playing th-cam.com/video/OKEEyKkSQ7A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=m8mDfV9mmllflZUv th-cam.com/video/tRGHuNhxDHA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LFwnikqAUkDof0nm Case closed!
Pastor John Asonike was accurate. Before I go further I'm very aware of the fact that the two are both men of God and I'm neither for Asonike nor Osayi. It is written By grace ye are saved not by any account of our work but by grace. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah:64:6 And Jesus said, Are ye also without understanding? Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: Matthew:15:16-19 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew:5:20 The righteousness that exceed that of the Pharisees is Jesus
No matter how much John tries to make noise,Arome osayi is a matured man of God in de things of the spirit.and he has groomed many ministers.infact, am very very disappointed with John
I believe your comments and explanations are making things worse for both parties. No one is perfect and everyone speaks according to their revelation, to say a man of God speaks out of flesh is not wise because you are not the Spirit of God to judge that. Be patient to catch the spirit of the meetings and teachings and avoid unnecessary debates. These things, if not properly checked, can lead to many confused rather than edified. As long as you get what they are trying to say, as believers, we should bring understanding to whatever seems controversial amongst men of God and not be the judges on the sideline. As the scripture says, who shall know what is in the heart of man except for God. Let us not play God.
@@johnpromisepeters1285no man can defend anything it's God that will defend his words that why everyone need holy spirit to know truth not by merely talking talking
The funny thing is that both of them are saying the truth... Apst. Arome is making a stand for integrity and purity among ministers John Anosike is making a stand for righteousness by Grace. We need to be able discern and accept accommodate our differences
What you have said have exalted you only for you to come back and say you are not trying to be boastful....we are not stupid ..... pastor Arome was boastful.....he should have used Jesus as the reference not himself....Pastor John was right
Exactly! He has even boasted more than this in the past. This man has boasted severally about the fact that he doesn't sleep with women and his congregation. He even said he doesn't like sex but only does it because of his wife. I don't know why pastor John is taking offense
@@norawilliams9952Bondservant is not attacking him but this message he was speaking in relation to the accusations against Prophet TB Joshua. It looks like most Nigerian pastors and even pastors across the world were attacking TB Joshua and I think that's why pastor John came out boldly to say that TB Joshua was a great man because even though he's dead yet been attacked. Pastor John always admonish but never boasted that's the difference between him and Apostle Arome. Thank you
Arome Osayi has responded to John Anosike👇👇
Arome's Response to John Anosike Rebuke: th-cam.com/video/-rbojgzgf5I/w-d-xo.html
Repent
Jesus is the judge
He was making and important point , that everyone is guilty of this sin.
All of us we need forgiveness for our thoughts.
tempted does not mean coveted, its two different things.
@@PortalsMediaNetwork You don't know who is John Anosike. You don't have revelation of him in the spirit and you speak in the flesh...
John Anosike is the most important person in the plans of God on this Earth and he is the one that is fighting with the principalities and powers in the air and this is the reason for wich the kingdom of God will come on the Earth.
Don't miss what i told you because there's no grater than John Anosike on the Earth in this end times.
Also he is not offended but point the fact that our righteousness is in Christ Jesus.
Don't be stupid, because with your comments and videos you work for the devil and help for the devision in the body of Christ.
That's why better find some other things to do for money.
Don't think that i am someone that like to argue... No i telling you these things because soon God will make all the world including the church to come under the mentorship and leading of John Anosike!
You will see!
I am a sinner but thank God He washed me and transformed me..Glory to God !!
May God of heaven continue to protect apostle Arome Osayi and family IJN. AMEN 🙏
Arome is a liar, he always make up Visions encounter stories. The other day he said Jesus walk into His room bear feet and he walk to Jesus and said what is the problem, why are you barefoot. So unblical field with lies to appear spiritual, nothing to learn or received from that vain story, matter of fact it attacking chhrist Jesus
Amen
The enemy has blinded the body of Christ to fight each other on the pulpit while he is planning strategically. May GOD help us all!!!
There are many bodies of Christ, John Anosike belongs not to the Body of Christ, he owns a real himself, He is king of his own fiefdom, he doesn't belong to the body of Christ! No.man who belongs to the body of Christ comes to the defense of a rapist and a sorcerer like TB Joshua. Re Mathew 24 v 24
😢what a shame for de body of Christ .Instead of bringing de body together de Shepherd is tearing each other down. That's why I love Pastor Robert Morris he goes out of his to bring de body of Christ together but in Africa they tear each other down.😢😢
@@lovinggod1298you are not being fair are you the Holy Spirit?
All these things happening were concocted in the dark world with a high level of intelligence to cause division. There is a revival about to happen. So, the dark kingdom wants to destabilize the younger generations by causing them to be unsure of whom to follow. But in all these things, the Wisdom of God is in play. We'll learn to seek, find, and know God for ourselves, and then walk in unity, which will be the sign for the coming revival
Let's not judge these matters by ourselves.
In all these, God's wisdom is in play 🙏
The man who make this videos is the reason for the fights between the men of God...
If the same didn't open this chanel to make money it will not be happened!
I love John he is on the next level of anointing if you follow him he talk a lots about holiness and obedience to God be pure and honest he literally says to blockers if you know what you doing be careful because you not mess with anybody you mess with the anointed of God
I love the 2 Pastors ...even if God call me perfect ...may I HV no word to speak but to hide under the covering of the blood that gave me the gift of righteousness by grace alone
Exactly
God bless you
Thank you sir
May God be With Apostle Arome Osayi. Jesus Christ is with him.
I love your words of Apostle Arome that ,God's work can be done geniusly
Pastor John he's a wonder
What God wants to reveal no one can stop Him no matter the temper tantrums.
I love pastor John Anosike and is ministry
Give us grace to realize that these men of God are men after all, help us to see and imbibe the good and the perfect and to let go of the unnecessary
I love Pastor John Anosike
I love all these men of God. Pastor John is amazing, and apostle aroma is amazing, but pastor john is right about this.
I don't care what people say about Papa John, all I know is that he really is a man of God, the bible says that we must test the spirits... and you failed... we perish due to a lack of knowledge.
You don't care also that he wish for the downfall of his colleague in the ministry?
I@@oyedeleajayi9442 it was very clear he wasn't doing that,he was simply stating the fact that fornication takes place in the heart period,.
He was just stating a fact, which is,I don't think he meant to attack apostle arome ,and he wasn't even attacking him, let's be fair he was only stating what the scripture said .
Bloggers can make you see what they want you to see.
As for me am blessed to have both of the man of God ❤.
😢But Apostle has said am not doing this to exalt myself, i dont understand why the strife in the body of Christ, may God almighty have mercy on us.
There are many bodies of Christ, John Anosike belongs not to the Body of Christ, he owns a real himself, He is king of his own fiefdom, he doesn't belong to the body of Christ! No.man who belongs to the body of Christ comes to the defense of a rapist and a sorcerer like TB Joshua. Re Mathew 24 v 24
Hypocrisy lives here
obviously sir is what the enemy wants a kingdom divided against itself the 1st video was filtered to the exact point for damage, which trended pst John may be judging from that stand point, if so that is hmmm. Believers ought to face kingdom mandates and crisis in the kingdom ought to responded in like manner.
To me I think this things is very clear,
One I love both of the man of God ❤.
Second pastor is no respecter of man which is good.
If we check very well,he was simply stating what the scripture said about fornication that even though you might have not conceive it physically, but if you've thought of it you've committed fornication period.
To me I think this things is very clear,
One I love both of the man of God ❤.
Second pastor is no respecter of man which is good.
If we check very well,he was simply stating what the scripture said about fornication that even though you might have not conceive it physically, but if you've thought of it you've committed fornication period.
Even Joshua Selman once makes the same statement as Arome 😅.
I think pst Jonh would have listen to the whole teaching and get the whole context .
I love pastor John Anosike he is a true man of God 🙏
What. Pastor John said is okay let me tell because it's by the grace of God that we don't sin its not because am clever
Yes by Grace of God, But do you have to say He will fall, when he was very clear he is not exalting Himself but show distinction between those who are ministry for self gain
@@PortalsMediaNetwork your channel will be closed down very soon, bunch of bitter fools
Does that Grace support sin especially fornication? What an End time! Even a goat will not go mate with a dog! Grace doesn't water down Discipline. Grace is a capacity to overcome sin. To say NO to sin....
@@neulite24 u have answered it well but was arome saying it from a place of love or from a place of pride rlthat was what pastor John wasost focused on
@@neulite24sun is sin fornication lie self righteousness theif we have many only fornication u people are shouting up and down read your Bible Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
What Arome said is scriptural. Samuel said the same thing in 1 Samuel 12:3.
Apostle Arome was not being boastful; he explained why he said what he said.
No, Arome said it from a different angle.Those biblical figures he was quoting spoke those words at the end of their ministry,and they never compared themselves to someone else.But Arome is trying to say,he is the only one sinless as regards external affairs.
And he is asking someone righteous like him to show up! What a pity
Pastor Arome is a man of God. But this man John Anosile is questionable
@@AlfredPaul-y7m When the apostles declared the same thing in their Epistles, it wasn't at the end of their ministry.
Pastor John just spoke grievance. Look at the disdain with which he spoke against Apostle Arome, and then crowned his utterance with a pessimistic prediction, you will know that he never liked Apostle Arome even before this issue came up.
@@fay9169How?
More grace papa John Anosik
More grace apostle Arome
All we need is the good news about Jesus, not who's wrong or right, there is only one righteous judge. Jesus is greater than everyone else.
Every word that comes from our mouths will give an account. Let's not be distru cted the devil is dividing the body of Christ. Wish both servents of God would not respond against each other. Continue the good work you are doing we love you. Jesus never got worried about who is accusing about what He continued with His assignment that's all. I've been called names not by unbelievers but by the brethrens but I did not responded not because I am intelligent, but told to be quite God took over the situation. I may know all the verses but if He didn't say I must respond, I mustn't
Pastor john only spoke the truth about God's word and people don't want to hear the truth, very good response pastor john
@patriciarex1926
Pastor John is wrong on this one. He twisted scriptures to fit the narrative. Don't just swallow things men of God of our generation say. Get into the word for yourself. If you are a child of God, you also have the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth.
Arome said he didn't say that to boast about himself. Of course, it is the grace of God. So, why pastor John was emotionally angry about that, I wouldn't understand.
If you hate Arome you would say that. I considered Pastor John as a great preacher but listening to his teachings lately, he has lost the way
❤
Masa, real man of God don’t go against men of God but rather to preach the word of Christ
Is a childish to tarnish your fellow pastors all in the name of quantity
@@ndzabenhlemagagula
I perceive there is something going on with pastor John. I'm trying to put my finger on it.
I was endeared to pastor John because of his emphasis on holiness and concencration but recently, he has been saying and doing things that are in stark contrast with what he preaches. Sad!
Gods power at work in us, to keep us pure and Holy. Why should we not boast in Christ Jesus. Holiness is 1 Tim 4:12. There are believers whom Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself rescued while very young, raised them before they got deep into the world. They came to Him early; learn and understood the word. They put in all efforts possible to stay in the word and run away from hidden sin, as they continue to seek Purity and Holiness. Their words in this area, is a testimony work by Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself and it should not be hidden that we are the same. The journey of a believer is interesting. We overcame by the blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself and we continued to resist this specific temptations. We keep running away from sin. Such efforts of grace; actions of grace; coupled with the word of God; the power that workerth in us; should be encouraged so the world can see and be saved that Jesus Christ of Nazareth Himself can bringforth this type of testimonies to His own glory. It is also good for the young people to learn and know that this type of strict disciplined life; is possible in Christ Jesus of Nazareth
The grace of God is enough for us not to lust at a woman.
May God All Powerful have mercy 🙏
He can't fall man of God.
How are you wishes other man to fall.
What is going on in the body of Christ today.
God help us,all these father attacking one another, what do expect the young generation to do.
The Body of Christ should stop fighting its self, we need to build up our body. Pastor John's response here isn't necessary but do I believe in his teaching yes. Apostle Arome Osayi statement isn't bad,every true Minister of Christ should do the same.
As an intercessor for the deep things in the heart of God Ahayah Ashar AHaYah Adonai Elohim El Shaddai Yahuah Immanuel Ancient of Days.
I can sense the spirit of Divination, Compromise, and mixture of strange fire 🔥 in the teachings and frequency of Pastor John Anosike.
Now I discern that Apostle Arome Osayi had the mantle he carries comes from the LORD Jesus Christ Yeshua Yahusha Ancient and not Men, Divination, or strange fire 🔥.
Who is Ahayah Ashar ? I’m done with reading your comment
this is sad cause these are men of God and fathers we look up too, God show mercy,
The Bible says look unto Jesus, not anyone else bro.
@@famousjoel2941 Paul also says "follow me as i follow Christ" can i follow you without looking up to you?
Table service is crippling the body of Christ and we need to pray,repent and interceed on this matter 😢
That Arome Osayi has a spirit of pride from long time, he needs real deliverance
Arome is a preacher of Grace but frown at people that Abuse Grace and mind you he wasn't claiming righteous because in most of his teaching he talks about how he was battling with the spirit of lust before he overcame it by prayer. I believe it is a great testimony. Secondly
This bible verse from pastor john should not give men of God liberty to behave anyhow. Arome has said it all and he wasn't being boastful but stating a standard that men of God must emulate.
What pastor John said should not be a new testament testimony infact Jesus was referring to people that embraced the law about forgiveness and grace and that was before his death. So every new testament believer must have a testimony of living a holy life. If there is a mistake on the way there must be a quick restitution not to lingering in the act. That is why I love u channel . no true child of God would say Arome is not A true man of God. Take it or leave it
My Guy u get Brain...I love you
You said my mind bro, no further comments
God bless you.
God bless you brother, I love Christ, I love Apostle Arome
The issues of prophet TB JOSHUA bring this issues arome was mocking TBJ about the bbc document let tell you if you don't know Arome may not sleep with other lady but there are many way he sins against God think about two people went to temple for prayer republican and pharisee read the story with understand u will know who and who is saying the truth
Pastor John called that boast and pride?
Maybe we should tag apostle paul then as a boaster when he said " I pray in tongues more than ye all".
Because an Apostle was laying a solid emphasis of which nobody will accept on his purity and now another pastor is misunderstanding him in another context or way round. Abba!
We really need to get our priorities right. And can he just stop those assumptions of his, saying if apostle arome hasn't thought of immoral stuffs within his mind, that he should speak up and he was even saying something relating to apostle arome, that he will be exposed. I tag all these as envyness. Truth be told.
And all these was coming from the phase of apostle arome speaking the truth always and of which many preachers of nowadays can't even make an attempt to speak any, Instead they will be spicing it up with the good part so as for the people not to be angry with them. And someone like apostle arome is not even bothered.
I am not saying all these this because I love apostle arome, I am saying this because i am an advocate of truth and that is why I cannot see what is wrong and I will be spicing it up or covering it up with false.
Pastor John should calm down and he should understand apostle's emphasis.
He should even make a reminisce on what Apostle Paul said concerning his spiritual life in the place of speaking in tongues than the people he was writing the letter to. Or we will still call that one boast again.
If you've succeeded in your place of standing strong through the grace and strength of God, be bold to talk about it.
Why won't he relate it to other pastor's, when it that it all the pastors of these days now that is involving in all manners of immorality and they will still come and be holding the microphone to vibrate.
The body of Christ must be positioned into that phase of balance again.
And as for you dear reader, be an advocate of truth and be ready to stand against what is wrong.
Selah!
the Pastor John you are talking about has more emphasis on holiness and righteousness than any African preacher across the World.....go do your findings....
tell me what are you even saying? does Pastor John look to you like someone who will be envious of a mans "righteous" works...what are you saying Sir..
you guys kept mentioning Apostle Pauls speaking wrongly...and i cant help but think out loud that the average believer dont know or do proper bible interpretation.....cos if you do, that scripture wont be what you will use as juxtaposition..i rest!
@@joelasuku9599 Your error here speaks so much of the fact that you gave your pastor a grade about his Spiritual life or life over every other preachers. I Don't even understand where you people are getting all these energy from, should we call it deception or what exactly?
The moment there is a blind fold of insight, discernment becomes a rag to tear off.
What pastor john is laying emphasis on is coming from the place of bitterness and the inability to understand the context behind the detailed words that apostle arome gave.
These days everyone is avoiding to speak the truth.
You better crave for the discerning Spirit so you will know which preacher is speaking directly from God and not.
Selah!
@@nathanielakanbi well, you dont know me afterall.....i am not a follower or fan of either Pst John or Apostle Arome, am very neutral and hat is why i can speak objectively...but since you said i speak error, irest my case Sir
@@joelasuku9599 maybe we can say it other way round that before you speak objectively sir, you'd first try to compare the measures of what you are about to dig out first so you won't speak as though you were assuming or giving an appraisal to someone operating in whatever kind of authority. Authorities varies I believe you'd know, the one from God and the one from the devil.
Discernment is the key stuff here, so you won't be misguided.
Selah!
Even pastor John has taken pride in not sleeping with any woman, so I really don't understand what was going on with him
Thank you.
That was sure manifestation of flesh.
True bro, I have watched him severally boast about not sleeping with any lady
we will keep attacking falsehood until evil will be uprooted from the root. let revote against falsehood ministers so that darkness will be shifted in our land
Thank you 🙌🏽
You who have not attend perfection are the ones to be attacking what. Hypocrisy lives here
Chriantains don't boast, we testify... I love both pastors and i listen to Their messages a lot but sometimes we should know that they are men and they can make mistakes ,read Jeremiah 9:23...we can testify of the goodness and mercies of God but we cannot boast of it because by the arm of flesh shall " No man prevail". Not some men...this is why we need to read the bible for ourselves as we learn from our pastors so we can decern what is true and right.
Arome clarely stated he was not boasting, this is sad to see.
Actually we boast in Christ. That’s literally in the Bible
We can boast in the Lord. Apostle Paul boasted in the Lord a few times. Why will any Christian not celebrate God's grace in keeping a man sexually pure in this horrible world where lust is rampaging lives even of so called preachers? And to think that someone will be incensed at such testimony is the height of inpenitence.
@@andidawasPaul alluded to the fact that he boasted and that it wasn’t a good thing to do, please read again the passage. Yes we can boast in the Lord a kind of boasting that God approves.
grace is the cure of sin not a reason to sin.
i can also claim it
Pastor John Anosike the bondservent of Christ is 💯🔥...he is a man of actions not words. He has been used by God mightly to save many from deception. The judgement belongs to Yeshua alone. God will increase him in the coming days like nobody can expect. Hallelujah🔥
His words shows that he is not a man of God
@fay9169 I doubt this though
Our problem is fighting each other's by pretending to be right.
Jesus was that humble person on planet earth.
Can we come together and stop pretending to be the best infact your reward has been given already.
Judgement belongs to God. Why waste your time focusing on other people doing s. Focus on your race to live a righteous life and to be with Jesus Christ one day. God is the only Judge.
Self righteousness is a spirit fighting Christianity, judgement belongs to God.and any secret sin only God sees.wait till judgement day
I like your analysis 🧐
Still on that, its still the grace of God that kept him. How about the little boy that got slept with by an older teenage girl, as in the cases of sexual abuse at ages that they dont know their left from right. Its just Gods goodness keeps every one of us...
Why is this man offended 😂😂, human anger does not produce the righteous YAHUAH desires
Why is he taking it personally. Pastor Arome is boasting in the grace of God in his life. Hmmmm I wonder oooooooo
You said something good
I agreed with everything you said in this video. Very good analyse
Let he that boasts, boast in Christ.
I stand completely with what Pastor John Anosike said.
For me, the best testimony of God's strength is seen in the helpless state of mankind (the flesh).
The heart of man (mortal man) is desperately wicked, it is the Holy Spirit that put us straight.
So if I boast of my right-standing without referencing the role of the Holy spirit and God's divine intervention, I am subjected to error.
Peter boasted through his flesh that he will stand with Christ even when others leave
not knowing he will deny his saviour three good times.
"Help me God, for I cannot help myself" 🙏🙏.
For you to come to a submission, you must listen to the whole message . Apostle Arome said that he didn't say it to exalt himself.
Is it not this same Pastor Anosike that told his members to pay their first fruits to him . 😊😊😊
@@olumuyiwa1005 I've listened and watched it over and over again before making that comment.
It's the same thing as boasting in
what you claimed you did by yourself and when you realise you've gone too far in it, you then summarized with
"to God be the glory" ;
When you actually was glorifying yourself and the excellency of your self-discipline.
No one can sugarcoat that
What of 1 John 3:7-9
@@marykingdomchanger3136
How do you balance the above scripture with
Romans 7:20-25. ?
Far correct, God bless you
I think Pst John's anger is coming from the fact that himself and Apst Osayi has contrary claim about Tb Joshua. It's very controversial to hear Osayi say that Tb Joshua is not of God with scriptural proof and Pst John said that Tb Joshua is a man sent from God. I think that's one major issue that has put them on contrary pages. That did not go well with Pst John, because if he is affirming Tb Joshua's spiritual personality and another respectful man of God is saying the opposite then that calls for some check. That's why he was quick to say that Apst Osayi will have a great fall instead of praying for him with the love of God as a fellow labourer in the vineyard of Christ Jesus
Hmm!
Only few saw this aspect of him wishing one to fall
Aha!
You have just spoken my mind. You are smart😊
Exactly!
I think this has to do with their divergent opinions on TB Joshua.
Pastor John has openly supported TB Joshua while Apostle Arome has openly rebuked him.
I have been an ardent follower of pastor John to the extent of even visiting his church in Cape Town. However, his position on certain issues and quest for financial gains ( my opinion) has made me to start having a rethink about him. He is currently in Abuja for a program and my kids are surprised that I'm not attending considering that we live in Abuja.
Let me continue to seek God for myself.
@@norawilliams9952I’m in the exact situation that you are in regarding pastor John Anosike especially as it pertains to some of his stance on certain contentious issues. I’m really at a crossroad. But just like you I’ll start seeking God for myself.
You know sometimes some people just because they’ve been doing it, they now think it’s not possible to one to keep such purity. So when another person is testifying about such things they begin to name call him and try to defame
My dear I really wonder.
If someone has appropriated grace to live right when is it a crime to speak about it and even make it bold not everyone is in Ministry for what they will get
So because we are human we should keep sinning.... Oga you are in TB Fatai's class.
Truth pastor John
If Arome would only say,by God's grace,I have never touched an external woman,no one would rebuke him.But what he asked at the end of his statement is irritating,he said,if you are a man of God and has lived righteously like me, come out and say it. Now,what does he try to convey?
God help the body of Christ
Be ye Holy as I AM Holy : GOD
We boost in the lord
Pastor Arome was trying to make a point. Pastor John also had a Point. It must be stated clearly that the both of them were not addressing the same issue. Arome was addressing the Notion of Generalizing all pastors to their response, John was addressing the Subtle Pride it was spoken with.
Both of them should have done better in their delivery. I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THIS SUBTLE PRIDE WITH SOME BRETHREN IN THE APOSTOLIC MINISTRY. IT'S BECOMING WORRISOME.
I can assure you its bigger than just what he said, you won't wish a man fall and even say if he doesn't come out to apologize publicly grace would be withdrawn, that's an addition, Moreso the 'boast' was made in context of a subject he was dealing with. John Anosike responded to a 1min clip.
Take it for free it's bigger than just the one minute clip.
Moreso same Anosike said ministers should not be corrected when bloggers was on him, now he has turned around to do same.
The last time he spoke on Prophet Emmanuel Makandiwa he added somewhat decorum, even went ahead to say Holyghost should forgive him he is not suppose to speak about men of God.
But here you're turning round to use derogatory words on someone.
Well he is planning entry back to His country Nigeria.
He is welcomed
Moreso Arome was addressing Pastors not Ordinary believers. Pastors are the only set of of believer with criteria in the scriptures that must be met before you become one.
believers don't require any criteria but for pastors there are clear cut instructions why is it so?
God doesn't owe any Man Ministerial call he only owe you salvation which he has paid. if you must be be a pastor its not a place for loose people. you're entrusted with peoples life and you will account for it. its a serious place not to be taken likely, any Pastor offended by that. its strange, i mean he was addressing Pastors not Just ordinary Believers oh! HABA.
there should be clear cut, if one is still struggling with such he should step down first, and deal with, don't destroy life entrusted to one's hand
@@PortalsMediaNetwork do you have any idea how bias you are? am not suprised because almost all of your videos is commentaries on Apostle Arome Osayi and his clan....if truly this channel is for the body and not a denomination,you will o well to be more neutral......dont be bias and listen to Pastor John Anosike again....he has a point you are either denying or not paying attention to..... DO BETTER!!!!!
AGAIN YOU DONT MAKE BOOST OF WHAT THE LORD DO THROUGH YOU or in you, STOP READING SCRIPTURE VOID OF CONTEXT.....am amazed how you do your own apologetics.......the Apostolic ministry in the last decade has been laced with lot and lot boostful speaking, the honor i have for them wont allow me mention names and statements.....and that is coming from the robust dealings God had with them...but listen, the fact that it is popular doesnt it make it right!!!!!!!......go and listen to partriachs who had done mighty apostolic ministry in the past....something is wrong!!!!the Apostolic ministry needs to "
calm down"
5:11 5:19 5:19
Men of God of our days, what is happening to them Anosike should we believe you sir?
This is your first video from you the host of this Media Portal I am listening. This is a great video.
Youre mixing things up.. Apostle Arome is Raising a Standard of how Men of God should be living....even as unknown as i am i will boldly say I have never slept with any woman Since i gave my life to Christ. Its not to make boast in the flesh but the same Grace available for us all...Otherwise why would God put someone in hell for sexual inpurity if its not sonething dangerous, and if its something dangerous then we must be proud not to be part of it.
i guess God stopped sending men to hell for lies,anger,blasphemy, envy, lasciviousness.....brother let me ask, have you done any of this since you gave your life to christ? maybe you need to gt born again again.. Shalom
@@joelasuku9599 you know not the scriptures and the Power of God. We were not talking about other sins, if we were talking about Sins that's would have been different...but here Apostle was talking about sexual sins which has destroyed many preachers....and he was expressing how that many false preachers engage is such acts and also that if a survey is conducted of that aspect many preachers will fail...this he said not justifying himself but expressing how depraved many Christian's are...
Anosike now took that to mean Apostle was bragging and gloating about his self righteousness which was wrong..
Finally my brethren all other sin a man commits is without but Sexual sin destroys faster and addicts more dangerously.....He that have hear met him hear what Apostle Arome is saying to the Churches.
@@joelasuku9599 born again ?
Joe grow up man ...... Your old man is glaring it's fangs !
God bless you my brother.
I wonder what the strife was all about. I see no reason for the open rebuke from Pastor John.
Apostle Arome is hilarious. Sometimes you might be drawn away by his sense of humor and then feel some ventilation because his teachings are hard truths.
@@wiizidomtv4963 🤣🤣🤣.
Abi ooo. Him has 👂, let him hear the apostle ooo
Pst John stooped so low this time shame. Emotions took over him, he even said I'm angry. He's a human being though
Exactly, I'm kinda disappointed
That’s not anger that’s pure truth the problem you people don’t accept a harsh response as suiting or fitting
@@pro_Abi7taking advantage responding to others at the pulpit bcoz nobody is gona urgue
@@pro_Abi7you clearly don't know what truth is, if you read your bible well enough you won't make such a remark, Samuel came out to do such, Apostle Paul did the same thing, yet you are here supporting a man that is clearly in wrong without any scriptural justification of his offense in apostle Arome statement.
2 Corinthians 11:12-14 NLT
But I will continue doing what I have always done. This will undercut those who are looking for an opportunity to boast that their work is just like ours.
[13] These people are false apostles. They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ.
[14] But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
😂😂😂😂 pastor John is really spiritual that's why ye don't get him because your all carnel slaying the man of God BBC is demonic
I will stand by Pastor Arome any day of the week! I don't know about John Anosike!
Only stand by Jesus the Christ.
Why are u angry though....I don't see anything wrong with arome said, it's okay to hate sin..... Shall we not boost of what the lord has done for us...... GOD is about to expose all them
Something has put him on edge. He came to US and said that the church need to return to purity & here he’s so sensitive when Apostle Arome Asai eluding to purity. 🚩
Yhh man.. I don't get why he's so angry.
@@peterchimboyli455
Exactly!
I think this has to do with their divergent opinions on TB Joshua.
Pastor John has openly supported TB Joshua while Apostle Arome has openly rebuked him.
I have been an ardent follower of pastor John to the extent of even visiting his church in Cape Town. However, his position on certain issues and quest for financial gains ( my opinion) has made me to start having a rethink about him. He is currently in Abuja for a program and my kids are surprised that I'm not attending considering that we live in Abuja.
Let me continue to seek God for myself.
@@BoundReborn23It’s the TB Joshua issue.
Hmmmm
Holy spirit help oooooooooo
This is deep and very discouraging
John actually have a huge point there
U re taking side oga, preach christ not taking sides
He is not taking sides but instead he is exposing the foolishness of John Anosike. There was not need for him to attack Arome osayi
His first message contradicts the second one. People don't discern before they attend churches.
Thank you Jesus for Apostle Arome.
This pastor Anosike speaks like someone who is guilty of what Apostle Arome exposed.
Though he sound like that, but he has also came out to make such boasts of not sleeping with any girl.
@@PortalsMediaNetwork , so, what's his problem with Apostle Arome?
U guys u don't know pastor john anosike, that is a man of SPIRIT REALMS, he is not listening and looking in a human flesh, he saw it in the SPIRIT wat that man and how he talk
This talk no be spirit talk
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1 Corinthians 9:15 “But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast.”
This is Apostle Paul speaking here , so where did Aps Arome go wrong
Strange actually
John is speaking from the flesh.
Actually, Arome is the one speaking from the flesh and unscriptural.
Truth is what he spoke for iron sharpens iron.
The wicked flee when no one pusures him.. He sounds like he has hidden skeleton in his secret places. But Whatever is hidden will come to light weither we like it or not.. God help us.
Apostle Arome Osayi has done what Prophet Samuel did. I love this yhat someone can come out to say this. Not stories of immortality all the time.
They went out because they know they dont know God and Jesus knew that.
A teacher came out and say he is chaste and you are angry. What are you angry?
What Apostle Arome Osayi said is not pride. He hasnt done it in his imagination. Everyone is not like most of us.
My brother you are very funny😂😂😂😂, this days I'm starting to doubt pastor anosike
you can do best sir just work hard
Gawwd, we have a problem o in the body of Christ... See what our fathers are doing 😪... Why would apst. John Anosike say he would fall... If something else... He would have just corrected apst. Arome in Love and Wisdom... But saying... He would fall.. really seems somehow to me😞..
We were all sinner in any way.
Sin is not only sleeping with awomen but sin is sin.
We also think sleeping with a man or awomen is sin.
You can not be a sleeping with any but you are fighting something in your life.
If we were righteous then what are we doing here on plant earth.
Arome can be focusing on sex and what about pride,jealous,envy,scamming people.
Only the guilty would be afraid and offended
Apostle Arome Osayi didn't say it with pride... He said he isn't boastful about what he said, why would Anosike said one teacher who claim to be a teacher, with pride from the pit of hell... 😢 i even though they are both having thesame Holy Spirit... Anosike should have descern what Arome said and what he meant by what He said from revelation knowledge
Exactly
Pastor John is real and not fake oOoOO, Apostle Arome Osayi is real and not fake oOoOO. They are all true Ministers of God, but if they make mistake, they should be left for God to judge. Unless obviously contrary to the word of God
Infact Paul said I thank God coz I pray in tongues more than all of you
pastor John anosike is a teacher of the word
Guilty of fornication
Arome is talking of the doing and John is talking of imagination. And besides, what is John preaching here? That people should keep sinning? John is understanding the power of God's word and grace. Doesn't he know that when we truly come to God, he changes us? He changes even our thoughts.
There is a wave that is indirectly exposing falsehood.
He is angry because a man is exalting holiness
No matter how spiritual you are,u are still human being...
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He supposed to say it private not him to come out and say that other men of God should come out and prove it,let his boost be personal
My warning to you my dear brother who try to bring disputes between disagreeing men of God,take care,you may provoke God's judgement.
His correction was within the context surrounding the current false accusation of TB Joshua.
False?
@@mamatope4199 Yes, False.
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Case closed!
Pastor John Asonike was accurate. Before I go further I'm very aware of the fact that the two are both men of God and I'm neither for Asonike nor Osayi. It is written By grace ye are saved not by any account of our work but by grace.
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Isaiah:64:6
And Jesus said, Are ye also without understanding? Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Matthew:15:16-19
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew:5:20
The righteousness that exceed that of the Pharisees is Jesus
No matter how much John tries to make noise,Arome osayi is a matured man of God in de things of the spirit.and he has groomed many ministers.infact, am very very disappointed with John
I believe your comments and explanations are making things worse for both parties. No one is perfect and everyone speaks according to their revelation, to say a man of God speaks out of flesh is not wise because you are not the Spirit of God to judge that. Be patient to catch the spirit of the meetings and teachings and avoid unnecessary debates.
These things, if not properly checked, can lead to many confused rather than edified. As long as you get what they are trying to say, as believers, we should bring understanding to whatever seems controversial amongst men of God and not be the judges on the sideline. As the scripture says, who shall know what is in the heart of man except for God. Let us not play God.
God bless you
How come it is Arome fighting everyone???? Now he has to check himself
Apostle Arome fights no man, He simply defends the word of God by using the Word of God. How's that fight everyone?
@@johnpromisepeters1285no man can defend anything it's God that will defend his words that why everyone need holy spirit to know truth not by merely talking talking
The funny thing is that both of them are saying the truth...
Apst. Arome is making a stand for integrity and purity among ministers
John Anosike is making a stand for righteousness by Grace.
We need to be able discern and accept accommodate our differences
Yeah. He would have avoided saying he will fall
@@PortalsMediaNetwork that's true...
@@PortalsMediaNetworkBut if John's point was that Arome was proud then John is right Biblically because "pride goes before a fall".
Pst John wants to talk down on apostle arome because of what he said about T.B Joshua
And bloggers don't leave them. Keep exposing the false prophets.
What you have said have exalted you only for you to come back and say you are not trying to be boastful....we are not stupid ..... pastor Arome was boastful.....he should have used Jesus as the reference not himself....Pastor John was right
Pastor John Anosinke 🔥
pst anosike forgets that he once boasted but arome. was just illustrating
Exactly! He has even boasted more than this in the past.
This man has boasted severally about the fact that he doesn't sleep with women and his congregation. He even said he doesn't like sex but only does it because of his wife.
I don't know why pastor John is taking offense
@@norawilliams9952Bondservant is not attacking him but this message he was speaking in relation to the accusations against Prophet TB Joshua. It looks like most Nigerian pastors and even pastors across the world were attacking TB Joshua and I think that's why pastor John came out boldly to say that TB Joshua was a great man because even though he's dead yet been attacked. Pastor John always admonish but never boasted that's the difference between him and Apostle Arome. Thank you