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  • Here it is the long awaited account of that Infamous and Fateful Battle of Wolf 359. where we see the devastating results of being unprepared for the unknown. And witness the terrifying Power of the Borg.
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  • @n543576
    @n543576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    You narrated this like it was a horror book........it was very effective.
    Bones was right about how terrifying space is after all.

    • @t4rv0r60
      @t4rv0r60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Star Trek Creepypasta, pretty cool

    • @matthewwilson5019
      @matthewwilson5019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it was ok i guess, i dont know what was the point of it

    • @watcher805
      @watcher805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@matthewwilson5019 doesn't have to be one

    • @fjccommish
      @fjccommish 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Narrated like an awful amateur.

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    "Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying."
    _Arthur C. Clarke_

    • @ISAF_Ace
      @ISAF_Ace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Another citizen of the greater Terran Union I see

    • @TimothyChapman
      @TimothyChapman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, if we are alone (which we are), then there's no way to be conquered by aliens.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TimothyChapman And if we are not, they fall beneath the Iron Bootheel of The Imperium of Man

    • @ISAF_Ace
      @ISAF_Ace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      if we are alone in the universe then why are we alone and what makes us so special and separate from any other possible races that could have been. is there some filter that when a race reaches a certain stage of development that causes them to die out, the theory of entropy for example. what if the reason we are alive as a race is because we passed a filter of existence. then if we are the only living organisms in the universe then why, what makes us so special. but anyway if we don't kill ourselves then entropy will.

    • @TimothyChapman
      @TimothyChapman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weldonwin I do not understand the reference.

  • @danielramirez1529
    @danielramirez1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Damn this retelling of Wolf 359 is chilling to the core. It really does put the terror of the Borg in there and makes you realize just how close the Federation had come to a complete and abysmal collapse if it weren’t for the heroic efforts of the crew of the Enterprise D

  • @artiswilson6154
    @artiswilson6154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I am more scared of the Borg now that I was when I first time I saw them back in TNG thanks to your talents.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Borg were the most flat out terrifying thing in all of Star Trek... until Voyager ruined them and they became an absolute joke, when they just kept failing

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      sometimes the best thing for monsters like the borg, Xenomorph, and weeping angels is to say nothing. allow the idea itself to take hold in the minds of the audience. let their imagination fill the blanks.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@venomgeekmedia9886 Or say "Screw That Noise" and give the Borg a preening, Saturday morning cartoon villain Queen who fails constantly and takes away the terror of the vast, faceless, impersonal behemoth that the Borg were supposed to be

    • @lancekilkenny3801
      @lancekilkenny3801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@venomgeekmedia9886 Weeping Angels...now I won't be able to sleep. Thanks....

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lancekilkenny3801 don't blink!

  • @FreeThePorgs
    @FreeThePorgs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The battle where the federation realized that there peace was over and diplomacy does not always work. The idealistic days are now over, war has come.

    • @dontyouhaveacomrade1585
      @dontyouhaveacomrade1585 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But at what cost? They nearly had a military coup over it.

    • @mistermonologue2442
      @mistermonologue2442 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That is not the lesson learned here.
      The lesson was "diplomacy doesn't always work without a strong military backing".
      For a enemy with no morals why would they even bother with diplomacy if there is nothing to risk from just taking what they want.

    • @dirtyace1668
      @dirtyace1668 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mistermonologue2442as a Roman emperor once said, if you want peace, then prepare for war.

  • @brianjohnson5272
    @brianjohnson5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "No songs were sung that day. For the lost were beyond the count of grief."

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reminds me of a line from BSG about when the losses are so great, you have to turn it around, and count the living instead.

    • @brianjohnson5272
      @brianjohnson5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I referenced LoTR you reference BSG? Yup yours is better.

    • @lancekilkenny3801
      @lancekilkenny3801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So say we all!

    • @shep9231
      @shep9231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We lost so many...

    • @farshnuke
      @farshnuke หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianjohnson5272 I legit thought you were saying what the Klingons would say for their allies.

  • @gorbachev-1986
    @gorbachev-1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have to say, this was remarkable in the fact that you really brought the Borg back to its routes. A faceless, relentless, unstoppable enemy. Something I think Voyager watered down.
    I was about 5-6 when I first watched Best of Both Worlds. Would have been earlier but we only had BBC 2 to rely upon. No Sky 1 prime viewing. I digress. The Borg scared the hell out of me at that age!
    Loving the HP Lovecraft/HG Wells background. Needless to say, after watching this, I feel that unease with the Borg once again. You sir are a genius!

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage ปีที่แล้ว

      The Borg Queen watered them down.
      She was necessary for the movie - they needed a villain with a "human" face.
      But her presence turned Borg from a decentralized, mechanistic, ruthlessly inhuman collective of powerfully intelligent automatons into a vulnerable and dependant collection of mindless parts.
      She could be proud, arrogant, greedy, territorial, envious, angry, hateful, sated, sublime - she had a psychology which could be predicted and which could be manipulated - and all her drones would malfunction or crash when their link to this one critical center was interrupted.

  • @stephenconroy5908
    @stephenconroy5908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Me: No way could the Borg be made terrifying like they were when I was but a young viewer.
    *Venom Geek Media paraphrases HG Wells in the prologue*
    Me again: (cold sweat intensifies)

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "And slowly... Surely... They Drew Their Plans Against Us..."

    • @lanebowles8170
      @lanebowles8170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Added just the right amount of eeriness to the atmosphere. Not the first time there has been such a nod to H. G. Wells in reference to the Borg, as a ship named Thunderchild is in the movie First Contact.

    • @matthewwilson5019
      @matthewwilson5019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      whatever

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    STARFLEET COMMAND, IF YOU RECEIVE THIS DO NOT SEND HELP, REPEAT DO NOT SEND HELP!
    THE BORG HAVE RETURNED!!

  • @VkmSpouge
    @VkmSpouge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When this was first shown on BBC2 I was terrified of the Borg, they were so scary. That fear lasted well into my teens, even when watching First Contact, I viewed a lot of it from the gaps between my fingers. Your narration really brings back the horror of the Borg.

  • @Eshanas
    @Eshanas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The only time a Oberth posting was envious

    • @tyranusfan
      @tyranusfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There was an Oberth at the battle. Seen through the window in Sisko's quarters.

    • @Taiko206
      @Taiko206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tyranusfan Yeah but that one was destroyed.

    • @wayneywayney4096
      @wayneywayney4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Constitution refit as well.

    • @shadowpoet4398
      @shadowpoet4398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Wayney Watney - fun fact, there wasn't a Conny at Wolf 359, it was put there for one shot as a subliminal way of saying "doesn't matter if Picard or Kirk were there, they would not have survived" same as the Galaxy class wreckage, USS Constellation maybe? I forgot which was Galaxy

    • @browning2471
      @browning2471 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shadowpoet4398this is interesting, you got a source on that? Would love to know more

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Borg: "We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."
    Worf: "Assimilate this!"

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      borg: irrelevant, YOU WILL ALL BE OBSOLETE IN THE NEW ORDER.

    • @marcusjustice6165
      @marcusjustice6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656 Captain Kathryn Janeway: "I don't like bullies, I don't like threats and I don't like you!"
      "DEPLOYED ARMOR, TARGET THE NEAREST CUBE, FIRE TRANSPHASICS TORPEDOES!"
      Lieutenant Commander Tuvok:"Firing Torpedoes"
      BORG CUBE EXPLODES.
      "Target the Second Cube, Fire"
      BORG CUBE EXPLODES.
      Aftermath Captain Janeway orders her cup of Coffee "Open a Channel to the Borg" Ensign Kim: "Channel opened Ma'am" Captain Janeway: "What were you saying about resistance...?"

    • @GoddessTier
      @GoddessTier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Feds are lucky the Borg are more like a cybernetic fungus, and less like self replicating Von Neumann nodes. The Borg are limited by the need to breed or assimilate living beings as their primary substrate. Of course, if they were completely A.I. they likely wouldn't notice Starfleet at all. How insulting would that be? Imagine the poor Klingons!

  • @EventHorizon34
    @EventHorizon34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    You describe the battle of Wolf 359 in horrifying detail! This proves that the Borg are truly evil and that space with all its wonder can have horrors beyond comprehension! Best channel to date!

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Evil? Effective.
      These aren't duelists, with rapiers drawn at dawn in the dewy mists- these are ships of war, facing each other with the only goal being the destruction of the opposing side. To quote the Klingons, "noHghoblu'DI' yayquv law' HochquvpuS." (In war, there is nothing more honorable than victory.)

    • @looseycanon
      @looseycanon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I'd say, now we know, why the Enterprise couldn't take part in this slaughter... The nightmares this would have caused... they would have been legendary.

    • @lenorevanalstine1219
      @lenorevanalstine1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i wouldnt call the borg evil honestly they are more like a force of nature an un ending devouring swarm wich converts anything it touches and anything it cant convert to itself it destroys

    • @bloodysimile4893
      @bloodysimile4893 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evil isn't something I would describe. Good and evil is something that someone can choose to do or don't.
      The Borg, like the Combine in Half life, are highly efficient machine with no greater goal in mind but to grow and advance with no soul.

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Fascinating usage of a tone from both War of the Worlds and the works of H.P. Lovecraft. It presents the Borg in a eldritch form, one of pure and utter dread. One that is cold, calculated, and uncaring. As if one's very soul is being clenched by an invisible hand, indifferent to whether or not one can still breath. Makes the battle itself and the video all the more interesting and enjoyable to watch.

  • @timothyhiggins8934
    @timothyhiggins8934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Geez, it's a wonder how many more people were mad at Picard besides sisko. Great video!

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      probably most of them. granted there were few left alive to bear the grudge.

    • @darkhighwayman1757
      @darkhighwayman1757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's kind of crazy that they would not force retirement on him. I'd think he would be a security risk.

    • @farshnuke
      @farshnuke หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@darkhighwayman1757 In the books despite being Captain of the Flagship he's hated so much he's effectively an underdog.

  • @dustinkosman6615
    @dustinkosman6615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    To think all of this would lead to the development of the Akira, Defiant, Sabre, Steamrunner, Nova, Intrepid, and Sovereign classes of combat vessels between 2368 and 2373.

    • @sephservant
      @sephservant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We know the Defiant-class was already on the drawing board prior to Wolf 359, but it and the other classes were fast-tracked into production afterward.

    • @seanabsher5577
      @seanabsher5577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sephservant and their designs were mildly modified based on data they aquired from the aftermath of wolf 359

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Lexington73300 The registries may or may not be strictly chronological, but it does seem like something like the basic concepts were conceived earlier, maybe in a somewhat different role or form, at time.
      60000 registries generally seem to equal the 2350s, but perhaps with many left blank for a while.
      But the Nova, Intrepid and Sovereign definitely come later, either way.

  • @excellspeedy6043
    @excellspeedy6043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    shiet... the breakdown of the event and the endong tribute for the fallen ahip makes me chill... great vid.

  • @theecapitan
    @theecapitan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Offfft. Always thought of wolf 359 as a stand up fight against a technologically superior enemy... This is nightmare fuel. Compelling stuff. Well done.

    • @aiosquadron
      @aiosquadron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wasn't a battle. It was a massacre.

    • @farshnuke
      @farshnuke หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is why talk of the weakness of the Golden Age has never sat right with me. The only people who could defeat the borg was the Federation after being crushed by the Borg. The Borg are such an outside context incident that the biggest war hawks in the alpha and beta quadrants fielding the best of what to that date existed would still be crushed. No amount of authoritarian militaristic sleeping with a phaser under the pillow can save you from the Borg.

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    22:40 ; This the first I recall hearing all the ships name side by side in a video. 39 is just a number. To see and hear each and every name, and for the time it takes to list said names. It just emphasizes the scale of the lost.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yes i really felt it was important to give it the appropriate impact. it brought my own mother to tears.

    • @rayhatton7683
      @rayhatton7683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you did bring this great effect. Some of the names of ships where the ships Commander river was given chance to command. How lucky was he for doing this and the federation. What a very chilling end of innocence. Much more worse than the attack of Pearl Harbor. Though the call to arms to battle this cube invader ended in victory the very heavy price paid made the sting unforgettable. The rise of war ships after this battle made starfleet still not ready but capable of fighting still at cost of ships and lives. This berial space would be horrifying.

    • @fightingfalcon777
      @fightingfalcon777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rayhatton7683 I can't imagine the survivor's guilt Riker must have felt the moment Shelby mentioned the Melbourne was among those ships destroyed. His refusal to take command saved his life, but I doubt he got much comfort from that

    • @rayhatton7683
      @rayhatton7683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fightingfalcon777 there is no doubt in my mind his survivors guilt would be an end of his choice in star fleet and his character as a whole. Like a true boss he marched forward but it's clear he will never forget those names and ships. Much like Pearl Harbor. These ships and names will be forever egeded in lore alone. How badly Star fleet was not ready for this fight. As irony brings forth many survivors. DS9 commander will never forget locuts. Battle stations!!!!!!!!

  • @lillygodzilly
    @lillygodzilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great vid. It makes me think of Sisco and Jake and their loss of wife/mother. I keep thinking of Sisco meeting Picard on that first episode of ds9 and how Sisco was still suffering the loss and how stupid it was for Starfleet to have Picard be the one to address Sisco.

    • @wukong1066
      @wukong1066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Shows how short-sighted Starfleet is, their thinking of "his duty to the Federation will over come any grief or anger he may be suffering" Picard's lucky he didn't get his shit utterly rocked. I've seen Ben tiger uppercut a Cardassian tailor through the air for far less

    • @farshnuke
      @farshnuke หลายเดือนก่อน

      It actually strikes me as coldly cunning. Sisko has to keep the peace between victims of fascism and their former fascist oppressors. If he can't keep composed against Picard then he shouldn't be posted there.

  • @randallwong7196
    @randallwong7196 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In a novelization of the DS9 premiere, when the Saratoga encounters The Cube, the captain ( a Vulcan ) frowns, causing serious worry inside Sisko's inner voice. It was the closest thing to a outburst in the captain that Sisko had ever seen.

  • @nunya3163
    @nunya3163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    If only CBS could do Trek justice like this.

    • @mrbuck5059
      @mrbuck5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nope. The borg cube would be pink with hearts all over it. It would kill just the white men and claim everything is racist.

    • @nunya3163
      @nunya3163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mrbuck5059 And then blame the alt-right, and Trump.

    • @robert23456789
      @robert23456789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this type of TNG would make them wet them selves there too weak to make something like this

    • @jasonparis5635
      @jasonparis5635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm enjoying your tales keep up the good work stay safe and live long and prosper.

    • @blammers
      @blammers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope, everyone is depressed and angry.

  • @chissstardestroyer
    @chissstardestroyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Basically, Locutus's Cube just walked through the middle of Adm. Hansen's fleet, wrecking ships willy-nilly and headed straight on towards Earth; this was just about the most lopsided fleet battle in Starfleet's history up to that point as it turns out.

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was it the Borg that wreak Star Fleet or was it .. Picard ?
      Borg, " Okay Picard, these are our weapons, so what can you do with them ?"
      Picard, " Watch & see."

    • @chissstardestroyer
      @chissstardestroyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@krispalermo8133 Promising idea; especially if what's hinted at in "First Contact" really is the case: that Picard *is* Locutus; so that would explain how he could hear them at and before and during the battle.

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The big facepalm moment was Picard knew all the shield and weapon frequencies of the ships in the fleet and they didnt change them after he was captured. Arguably without that information it would have been a much more even fight

    • @chissstardestroyer
      @chissstardestroyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watcherzero5256 That's a good argument as well. Major messup for the Federation Brass at that.

  • @alexwilkin
    @alexwilkin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    See, if always interpreted that 1 starship, the Nebula class Endeavour survived, due to a review of a log from the Endeavour by Janeway in Scorpion I think it was

    • @oldmanjim2376
      @oldmanjim2376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fleet had the logs from several log buoys that are automatically jettisoned when he starship is destroyed.

    • @Taiko206
      @Taiko206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@oldmanjim2376 Alex Wilkin is right, because the USS Endeavour was also at the battle for sector 001, making it the only ship to fight the Borg twice and survive. And in case there's any doubt, Memory Alpha's entry about the USS Endeavour confirms this.

  • @HarvestMoonHowl
    @HarvestMoonHowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always thought of Wolf 359 is this sort of "flash in the pan" event in Federation history. A devastating one to be sure, but something that was nonetheless quick and relatively painless for those who had been killed during the battle.
    Yet it goes deeper than that. So much deeper than was portrayed in the cursory descriptions offered by the TNG episodes. What truly transpired in those horrifying 10 minutes would even give Klingons nightmares...

  • @roycekimbrough3274
    @roycekimbrough3274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wolf359 Starfleet's wakeup call.

    • @Killerspieler0815
      @Killerspieler0815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Royce Kimbrough -
      the first wakeup call , the second was the Dominion

    • @ericmorang3903
      @ericmorang3903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 9-11 of the Federation.

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pitiful Earthlings, hurling your bodies into the void without the slightest inkling of who or what may be out there. If you had any idea, ANY idea what so ever, you would have hidden from it in terror - *Ming The Merciless*

  • @ServantOfOdin
    @ServantOfOdin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Is it curiosity [..]"
    Well, it certainly was Q-riosity.....
    *ducks and runs*
    Daaamn, your battle-display was... terrifying to say the least.

  • @curtisirons7491
    @curtisirons7491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At least they didnt rig one of those ships to slow assimilate into a new cube.
    Now there is some nightmare fuel for you.

  • @TheMrPeteChannel
    @TheMrPeteChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'd like to think the Wolf 359 monument was made from the destroyed Federation ships in STO.
    6/5/2366 Never Forget.

    • @chrismarks4277
      @chrismarks4277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tech this happened around December 2366-2367

    • @sephservant
      @sephservant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. Idk where this guy is getting some of his info. System J-25 was in Beta Quadrant, not Delta, and the Borg invasion began at the end of 2366 and ended at the beginning of 2367.

  • @scpguy1381
    @scpguy1381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:28 interesting choice to show the Alt Ambassador class. That ship looked amazing

  • @brianjohnson5272
    @brianjohnson5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thats just sad and funny. The sole survivor is a federation coffin ship.

    • @mb2000
      @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And one of the screenshots was of one just before it smashed into a stellar core fragment!

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Coffin is a ligit name for a Borg ship Type😎

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Snake Plisken Or how about Borg Sepulchre 😱 or TOMB SHIP👁️👁️👁️👁️

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Snake Plisken what about the Elachi?

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Snake Plisken SO... ORKS???

  • @sovietdominion
    @sovietdominion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Well done you really brought in terror to the battle

  • @lanebowles8170
    @lanebowles8170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very well done! I liked your adaptation of H. G. Wells' War of the Worlds prologue, give this presentation the right amount of eeriness in the atmosphere. Not quite sure how I like the Borg's fighting tactics in the battle, although to be fair if it was ten minutes of "this starship attacked and then was destroyed, followed by such and such ship and then such and such ship..." that would be boring so, I guess I liked it!
    Again, great job! I will await your further works with great anticipation.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah that was my thought process while writing it. its like 'this is a entity with incalculable power, we don't know what they could be capable of.'

  • @saintnick6598
    @saintnick6598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We are the Venomous Geeks of Media. Raise your volume and cease all other tasks it's time!

  • @FBobby
    @FBobby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent commentary. I've loved every one of your battlespace episodes. This one takes it to another level. Well done.

  • @justinbachand4254
    @justinbachand4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is how the Borg should have been. Emotionless efficiency. Not the garbage we got from Voyager. Ancient and mysterious, watching from the dark.

    • @terriblecertainity
      @terriblecertainity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the Borg Queen was a bad idea

    • @GoddessTier
      @GoddessTier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      So true! A techno-Lovecraftian creepy body horror engine, seeking to own you and repurpose you while you experience all of it. Far better to be killed outright.

    • @GoddessTier
      @GoddessTier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Snake Plisken Douggie Hauser in Waffen SS larping attire mind melds with an abominable Brain Bug. "It's AFRAID!!!" And everyone cheers. One of the greatest moments of my childhood!

    • @GoddessTier
      @GoddessTier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Snake Plisken That's true. They even subspecialize drones like ants do. If they didn't recruit by violent personality sublimation they may as well be insects. The Alien-mythos xenomorphs come closest, but they use their captives as egg fodder which kills the victim. The Borg don't want to kill anyone, they want far more than that.

    • @omega311888
      @omega311888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      voyager borg were garbage? so... in YOUR opinion, theres no way janeway could have won despite having more advanced tech, a literal walking database for a doctor AND an actual borg drone assisting them? typical voyager hater rhetoric.

  • @winkles2314
    @winkles2314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This and JTVFX are both superb interpretations of this battle.

  • @jasonwhite7905
    @jasonwhite7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The perfect video to watch, or listen to on October 31st. I love how the video detailing the event of the episode Best of Both Worlds, used lines from War of the Worlds.
    And like HG Wells style, questions the dangers of technology and the unknown future of discovery.

  • @venomgeekmedia9886
    @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Wow! This video has passed 100k views!
    I Highly Recommend watching with the lights OFF...
    there are some amazing quotes in the comments i wish i could pin them all.

    • @stangundam01
      @stangundam01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      great work, would you be willing to cover the details of the ship classes involved in the battle & provide links to the ones you have covered?

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​ @stanglider01 sure thing. i've done some breakdowns in my Cardassian Border war series. th-cam.com/play/PLjNbxX7w4eoimvVR5l2FsQtl92v3ds4pR.html but also looking more in detail in Shipchat th-cam.com/play/PLjNbxX7w4eoiCnDafo7a_eV4cvQoaM35X.html

    • @45580677
      @45580677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@venomgeekmedia9886 Love the Cube stalking the Ambassador in the background

    • @theunitedcommonwealth715
      @theunitedcommonwealth715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THE DOMINION VS THE BORG VS THE SHADOWS.

    • @erikholmes1076
      @erikholmes1076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enjoyed it.Question, what happened to the Endeavor?

  • @ronaldfinkelstein6335
    @ronaldfinkelstein6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Any chance of a Battle space episode on the Battle of Sector 001(Star Trek:First Contact)?

  • @bbgcars
    @bbgcars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWESOME STORY TELLING!, THE TIME AND ENERGY IT TOOK TO RESEARCH AND LIST EVERY SINGLE SHIP AND WHAT HAPPENED TO EVERY SINGLE SHIP IS NEXT GEN AND AMAZING!GREAT WORK!

  • @josegonzaleziv8809
    @josegonzaleziv8809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great video! Thank you for sharing your passion and hard work. You can feel, hear and see your love for the subject.

  • @aiosquadron
    @aiosquadron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The steps walk closer... It speaks with a cold, flat monotonous voice, "*WE ARE THE BORG, LOWE YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR SHIPS, WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN, YOUR CULTURE WILL ADAPT TO SURVICE US, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE*".

  • @FreedomTrooper89
    @FreedomTrooper89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We always thought that the Borg just obliterated those that resisted, however this battle the Borg don't just destroy the enemy, they are Beyond sadistic about it. You have a great job in this video describing the horror that is the Borg

  • @poseidon5003
    @poseidon5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe this is the reason we never saw these newer starship designs ever again. They ALL got blown up at Wolf 359. That's why it was such a blow.

    • @sephservant
      @sephservant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. They were shelved to make way for more combat-ready classes like the Akira, Defiant, and Saber.

    • @poseidon5003
      @poseidon5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sephservant Not really shelved. My theory is that they were ALL there. All of the ships of those new classes....blown up at Wolf 359. That's why we NEVER see them again. imagine Starfleet Engineering freaking out that their new ships were wrecked, and the virtual hard on they got when they were told to design ships that could withstand that. LOL

  • @EdMcStinko
    @EdMcStinko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude! This became surprisingly dark, great work.

  • @danielschmidt7806
    @danielschmidt7806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chilling. You're so good at this. Very well done.

  • @grimreaper6557
    @grimreaper6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Video thank you for posting this breakdown of wolf 359

  • @donovanbradford8231
    @donovanbradford8231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A well done and chilling retelling of the events of battle. While doubtful the battle lasted that long, truly this video shows that the Borg cubes of old are truly the final bosses that if you are careless you will lose.

  • @captainyossarian388
    @captainyossarian388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video, especially the dedication plates of the ships lost, and your moving narration.

  • @shaftoe195
    @shaftoe195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Speaking of hubris... The Borg must have picked it up from Starfleet, specifically - from Picard himself.
    As Admiral Clancy put it: *"sheer fu-ing hubris!"* Lol.

  • @warrenreid6109
    @warrenreid6109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the opening monologue. Great writing. Had me captivated and wanting more.

  • @cdrocrossdiscovery
    @cdrocrossdiscovery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. Another fine demonstration of storytelling. Bravo!!

  • @allistar7560
    @allistar7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow great video man I love this series the Borgs tactics are brutal I hope this isnt the end of this series would love to see more keep up the good work:)

  • @thomasthibodeau8628
    @thomasthibodeau8628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo, Bravo! Knocked it out of the park again, my friend

  • @madrabbit9007
    @madrabbit9007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You got Cheyenne right! Awesome breakdown! This may be a first, others have spoken of the battle but I've never seen a blow by blow account. Well done all around sir.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      finally the Americans forgive my mispronunciations! i had to spell it with an A in the script just to make sure.

    • @madrabbit9007
      @madrabbit9007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@venomgeekmedia9886 I'm sure we dive you nuts with how we say aluminum and drive on the right side of the road. ;)

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I almost consider this the death bell to the Federations 120 years of pure exploration with phasers and torpedos purely designed for peace keeping. Voyager even had significant fire power boost for a ship of its type and class.

  • @cousinjuno
    @cousinjuno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely awesome production. You filled in so many details about the battle that I speculated on but now understand. Makes me wonder what would have happened if Riker had called for help from Cue? Certainly there are some telepathic and almost Incomprehensible beings that could defeat the Borg I haven’t seen any technological ones that could accomplish it!

  • @chrisburke624
    @chrisburke624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely LOVE your channel, please keep it up!

  • @patrickmcabee123
    @patrickmcabee123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang.., Man! That had me on the edge of my seat, also we now know how the battle actually went.., grizzly!
    Great job Sir, 👍🏼 well done.

  • @shadowknight0979
    @shadowknight0979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a incredible video my hat's off to you man.

  • @farshnuke
    @farshnuke หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn this was good. I remember being really underwhelmed when I'd watched The Best Of Both Worlds because I watched DS9 and its scenes from Wolf 359 first. There is one scene that sticks with me however for futile nobility of it. The Mars Defense Fleet, so tiny compared to the cube, flying in and getting swatted because damn it if they could buy Earth even one second, one millisecond, it would be something and they were not going to sit back without trying even when it was hopeless.

  • @marks041able
    @marks041able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good idea for the battle, shame we never saw one.

  • @OmegaOrdained
    @OmegaOrdained 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was absolutely fantastic! New subscriber because of this video! Well done sir, well done!😎👍

  • @chaosreaver3597
    @chaosreaver3597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I took the 359 part of my username from The Battle of Wolf-359, that STTNG story was one of my favourites. I never realised that it was so brutal.

  • @mb2000
    @mb2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow awesome video! I never thought the Borg would use so many clever tactics. I always just saw them as a big battering ram and they’d just pick off attacking ships like a dog scratching at a flea.
    You’re right about Starfleet’s crappy attack plan, sending waves of ships in. That’s why I’m glad they adopted the swarm formation at the Battle of Sector 001. They still took heavy losses, but were at least making headway in damaging the Cube and were still fighting hours later, not just a laughable 10 minutes.
    Wasn’t the Oberth-class USS Bonestell at Wolf 359? Its usually said to be the ship we see explode outside of the room where Jennifer Sisko died in “Emissary”.

  • @SHRPY-lb4qm
    @SHRPY-lb4qm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow 😳 just wow 😳
    Some excellent story telling in a way that filled in the blanks TNG wasn’t able to do in best of both worlds
    The description of the battle strategies and attack patterns of starfleet you described made the borg an unstoppable and overwhelming force that starfleet underestimated at that time
    I’d like to see a story of the battle at sector 001 to see how starfleet learned from that fateful battle ok yes we all know how it went down but your storytelling and battle descriptions give it that much more
    Excellent video keep up the fantastic work 👏👏👏👏

  • @jakehanifee8856
    @jakehanifee8856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well presented with excellent detail. Thank you

  • @kal0247
    @kal0247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What can I say except damn that was amazing, narration was on point, music was perfect 10/10👍🏽

  • @vectorbrony3473
    @vectorbrony3473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Without a shadow of a doubt this is the best narration of the Battle of wolf359. Also did i spot a consitution class in the battle lines? If so a very nice touch.

  • @walterlyzohub8112
    @walterlyzohub8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An TNG episode with this video would give a clear idea of how bad this was.
    The people who made the show I think would have wanted this done.

  • @adambrown3918
    @adambrown3918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was absolutely fantastic! I enjoyed the break down of this battle thoroughly. The loss of life was staggering. So sad. They had no chance but fought to the last( excluding that Oberth and the Enterprise ). Battle of Sector 001; although successful, wasn't much better either. Wolf 359 really brought an end to an era of peaceful space exploration for Starfleet. Correction? 22:34 shows the secondary hull of a Constitution class vessel? I believe it's unknown? Also a citizen transport was caught in the cross fire as well? Anyways, thank you so much for the effort you put into making this video. Great job! You have a new subscriber. 😀

  • @coolcoolercoolest212
    @coolcoolercoolest212 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa, way more impressive than I expected. Nice.

  • @grantaum9677
    @grantaum9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Love these videos 👍

  • @Sithvulcan76
    @Sithvulcan76 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great video as all of the videos on the Venom Geek channel. For those who view Wolf 359 as Captain Picard's fault, they are sadly mistaken. It is clear that the Borg would have won even without benefiting from Picard's captured knowledge. Their technology was just on a different level.

  • @shaytepes7351
    @shaytepes7351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool analysis, thank you!

  • @jeracojay
    @jeracojay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful details and a great precise story to match the events of wolf359

  • @beaney56
    @beaney56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an excellent video! Well done.

  • @dwaynegreen1786
    @dwaynegreen1786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic presentation, it enlightened me on a lot of subjects, including the makeup of the Borg ship and the various types of ships in the Star Fleet. Thank you so very much for sharing your time and knowledge of Star Trek.

    • @cdreid99999
      @cdreid99999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That part was unfortunately fanfiction. Just really good fanfiction. The big strength of the borg ships was becoming resistant to phasers and torpedos...but MOSTLY sheer size. I think i read somewhere a single cube would contain hundreds of thousands of vorg

  • @rameseXII4153
    @rameseXII4153 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is my favorite video by you :)

  • @chiroquacker2580
    @chiroquacker2580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an interesting idea for a piece of fan fiction: A 22nd century museum ship with a holographic crew who normally serve as tour guides ends up participating in the Battle of Wolfe 359. They are destroyed with the rest of the fleet, but end up making important contribution to the events that follow...

  • @cesarespinozaspain
    @cesarespinozaspain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo! Well done mate Well done!!!!

  • @nh3heathen146
    @nh3heathen146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My new favorite channel.

  • @bjhan73
    @bjhan73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done

  • @tyranusfan
    @tyranusfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quote from The War of the Worlds was a nice touch

  • @TomahawkMark
    @TomahawkMark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was excellent, thanks.

  • @TheMelbournelad
    @TheMelbournelad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to this just shows how much they learned and advanced by first contact.

  • @JHdamnihatehandles
    @JHdamnihatehandles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wasn’t the surviving starship a nebula class called the U.S.S. Endeavour?

  • @Sabbats-martyr
    @Sabbats-martyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bloody hell that was dark awesome video

  • @45580677
    @45580677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the way something about Hanson he met Picard when he was the first Captain of the Enterprise-C transporting cadets as the ship they had plan had issues and Enterprise-C had no issues taking them of course don't scratch the new flagship paint.

  • @gohawks3571
    @gohawks3571 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idky I am finding these things so many years after looking for awesome Star Trek stuff (technical jargon😉). So glad to come across this! You would think this would be an amazing (sad) crossover movie. Weird they are just like, "Uh, stuff happened. Sisko mad. Things sad😐" Thanks for sharing this👍👍👍

  • @flakbait5771
    @flakbait5771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice reference to War of the Worlds in the opener! Great video again!

  • @haydenhelton6852
    @haydenhelton6852 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done I really liked this

  • @RichardandlindaMelto
    @RichardandlindaMelto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. Enjoyed it.

  • @wolfmaster555
    @wolfmaster555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!

  • @TrunksXV
    @TrunksXV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice overview of the battle of Wolf 359.

  • @paulcarrillo7400
    @paulcarrillo7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a great video . I truly enjoyed how you broke down the battle. Is this cannon ? I really don't mind if it is or it is not I really enjoyed the video! Amazing work! This video gives a very vivid picture of what the battle was like and how horrifying it must have been. There is more information here about the battle than what we got in the clips of deep space nine. Granted it was the 90s. I wished they would have included some kind of battle scenes even cgi ones in the bluray special edition of the best of both worlds.

  • @GabrielKish
    @GabrielKish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Well done!

  • @jweems47
    @jweems47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and presentation.