“No foul language should come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for needed edification, that it may impart grace to those who hear.” Ephesians 4:29
@@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou focus less on catholicism and more being a Christian instead! “[27] As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out to Jesus, “Blessed is the mother who gave birth to you and nursed you.” [28] But Jesus said, “No, blessed are those who hear the teaching of God and obey it.”” Luke 11:27-28 NCV Verse 27 describes the modern equivalent of (continually) praying the Hail Mary. Verse 28 describes how the people who truly have faith and a relationship with Jesus are greater than those who follow a denomination or religion.
It's always interesting to me to hear people who don't believe in Jesus call out his full name when they're in distress or at their wit's end. It's like their spirit and their subconscious know who to ask for help.
The best argument is the most simple argument that is convincing. My Mother got me to stop swearing (aside from occasional outbursts) by asking me to consider that I receive my Lord with that mouth. I apply the same reasoning to praying for those that make me angry. I speak to my Lord with that heart; therefor I should endeavor to make it as clean as possible.
I once heard someone say that we shouldn’t swear because our Eucharistic Lord shouldn’t be received on a tongue that spews such filth. That’s also true of things like gossip, lying, etc. I’ve never forgotten that. I very rarely swear but unfortunately the words are often in my internal thought processes. I need to fix that.
@@OrthoLou do you think there will be "bad words" in Heaven? I think if the Spirit of Truth, Goodness and Beauty lives in us, then there will be certain words, tone, sounds and images that just won't jive well (be compatible) with that "higher wave length" and consequently will be recognized as "filth" or "offensive", not true to our higher nature. Somewhere I recently read something to the effect (which can apply to this theme of swearing! ) of: "by the words of your mouth I will know your heart" and "do not "judge" someone till you hear them speak"
@@jeffreyfitzgerald8541 Jonathan Pageau has a tendency to do that for a lot of things he explains. Dude is mind blowing in the most unique way… listening to Pageau in some ways takes me back to listening to long Krishnamurti or Alan Watts talks, except unlike them it’s coherent and although challenging it is far for rewarding and life changing
I've been lazy lukewarm Catholic my 49 years with all the associated bad habits. I'm working towards 100% Traditional Catholic values and teachings. Its very eye opening to think how wrong we live without even a second thought. A confessor told me that the Eucharist enters through your mouth, it needs to be kept pure. After decades of " normal" speech its a tough habit to break.
I like hearing stories like yours. I know I am not the best Catholic and it is tempting for me to renounce the faith altogether because I cannot be perfect. Being a traditional Catholic is countercultural.
@@IONov990 The Almighty Father knows all about us. He knows you cannot be perfect. We all fail. Start over. But NEVER give up your Faith, to do so is to sentence yourself to hell for eternity. Perseverance is required to attain Eternal Life, never give up, never give in!
@@IONov990 try to contemplate the depth of the love of the Father in light of us and our actions. In this thread we're just talking about foul language. Abortion, adultry, murder....the list of our transgressions is endless and He still loves us. You mentioned Traditional Faith is counter cultural, we are commanded to be detached from this world. Even as a lukewarm Catholic I've never really been interested in the silliness of society. I think that has been a Grace of God. The more you give to this world, which is the domain of the evil one, the less you have to offer to the Father. It's a struggle to be truly faithful and to live by the Will of the Father because we allow ourselves to be immersed in 'self' and what the world presents to us as the newest and coolest. Being humble to the point of death is not cool, but absolutely nothing is more valuable and Immortal
I used to swear and say God's name in vain, but when I turned a Christian, a few weeks of praying and attention completely erased those from my vocabulary. I'll pray for you, may God help you!
I am a Trad Catholic who has a problem with joke swearing (not God’s name, just crass words). It just makes jokes land so good. I need to break this bad habit as it does indeed bring up the bad without even knowingly doing so. It also makes others see me as no different then the average lukewarm Christian. Pray for me please! Dominus Vobiscum!
If you consider it as using swearing is the wide path and being very very funny without it is the narrow path, that might help. Anyone can drop the F bomb, it takes skill to be truly funny.
@@bigphilly7345 I specify Trad because today there are many who think Joe Biden IS Catholic. Obviously he is really not, but to prevent misinterpretation I like to be descriptive. Using your logic we should just be Christians, but we don’t say that for the same reason I specify Trad Catholic. Dominus Vobiscum!
Joke swearing is good, there is a time and a place for mixing the sacred with the filth, when you are tearing down an idol. Humor is a good at this. Mocking the fears that rule people help them to fear only the Lord.
4:04 I have the same dilemma... But when I submit to rage, all the Jamaican profanity spews out like a Pentecostal speaking in tongues. Then I sink into remorse thinking how that "every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement".
5:30 These arguments still depend on some words being "bad" even if they mean the same thing as not "bad" words. These are still terrible arguments because they depend on circulatory assumptions.
@@IONov990 no need to talk to a priest, talk to Jesus in prayer! He tells us to follow him, not to follow the leader of the church. “And you must not call anyone here on earth ‘Father’, because you have only the one Father in heaven.” Matthew 23:9 GNBDK
One of the most interesting things I have heard in a long while. And rings so true, especially when you do think of a person who is constantly (almost unconsciously) foul mouthed; both with swearing and profanity mixed together…..it reflects some inner disjunction and darkness…..and yet look how it has become both commonplace and celebrated in culture and entertainment.
I often think that cursing packs a punch if used like an exclamation mark (ie: not often) to convey a bigger emotion. However, I readily admit that in most every case, cursing makes me sound dumber and is not a good representation of Christ's flock to the world.
So, what is the alternative to those two scenarios? FWIW, I refer to them as "exasperatives". I see it as a battle against exasperation and a battle for gratitude in all circumstances.
Despite the title of this clip, I think Pageau is describing what swearing is and what it means, not saying whether or not it's ever okay to swear. He did definitely say it's wrong to use holy things as swear words though.
@@jacob5283 yeah Pageau rarely moralizes so I was confused by the title. He just gives you the structure, he never tell you if the breakdown is good or bad.
But I think it was appropriate there as he is describing that if you sh** on the table the whole world ends! Lol I know if mama catches anyone doing that on her table the world would explode😅 and any parent who has literally spent an hour + cleaning it off of the walls, crib, toys etc can agree- life literally ends for that period. It is sooo upsetting and just cannot be ignored. So I think it's an analogy like that. If you bring these things into normal conversation then you've caused a break in the flow. These days it seems quite natural but who knows how much better and productive conversations have been or could be when we didn't sink to those depths.
Keep on being truthful and faithful to the Lord, seek understanding and knowledge of the word of God. Be strong, have compassion and intimacy with the Lord. -God is with you, you do not have to fear. Pray, read your bible and let him work, he will never leave you, obey his words and talk to him. Seek Christ, seek the truth. Flee from sin and truly try.
I'm an avid swearer. Such to the point I forget that I'm doing it even in work related settings. My friends say I lack tact. It makes me wonder if my swearing plays into the character of not caring about the consequences that my words Might have on others. This video sort of revealed way too much information to me that I am willing to handle, but for that I am grateful.
Swearing in my generation (born 1996) has become very much like tattoos. It is far more rebellious to have clear skin, and a clean mouth these days than to do otherwise. This is a much deeper message from Pageau that expresses a similar observation of our words made by Jordan Peterson. He stated that you should stop saying things that make you feel weak, and start saying the things that make you feel strong. His observation is that even non-religious people can feel this sort of dismantling of their world, it is a feeling we all know very well. Jonathan, as usual, conceptualizes this in extraordinary detail in a matter of minutes. I love hearing you two speak, Merry Christmas to you both.
Wow! Very enlightening. However, just playing Devil’s Advocate here; as a linguist, I would say not all cases of swearing are indicative of someone’s spiritual deficiencies, indicative of their lack of concern for harmony between people, etc. It could just be that it is a learned part of their lexicon, as innate and automatic as inserting superfluous likes into one’s speech. However, this is not to suggest, of course, that it is OK to continue this behavior. That’s the thing about language, is that it is social. What is uttered by one person through innateness may be perceived by the listener to be profane and that may bring scandal. However, I play the role of Devil’s Advocate here to point out that we should be careful when making these connections lest we learn to make associations when we hear a swearer that ought not be made.
I run across this quite a bit, especially with young people. I was a bit disconcerted a few days ago, walking across a university campas. A very sweet looking young lady walked by me with a young man. Her words were just a stream of foul language.
As a language teacher, I agree, Todd, that for too many it's just something they picked up from their family or surroundings. After all, we first learn by imitating.... without critiquing... And even when we are old enough to know better, if we are regularly exposed to "unbecoming" words and images, it's almost impossible to prevent them from "sticking" to you and becoming part of your use and reality. I can still remember how I grew up in a home where no one cursed or swore or used vulgar terms, but when I got to college and had a lovely roommate who nevertheless frequently used the "sh_ _" word, without malice, just casually; it would bother me and I probably kindly commented to her on it at first, but it was hard for her to stop. To my great chagrin, I found myself before the end of the school year also using the same word as a carthatic expression! It was really disturbing to me and humbling... I did later deliberately work hard on eliminating that bad habit (yes, once in a while I slip 🤭). And that roommate became one of my best friends. So I agree with your ending thoughts too, because greater human understanding helps us not to judge ( and likely misjudge) so swiftly which is what Jesus demands of us: do not judge ...
As a Protestant convert to Catholicism, I sometimes say I never used to smoke or drink or swear until I became Catholic. Actually, I still do none of them. Profanity wasn’t a part either of my upbringing or my religious upbringing, so I’ve just always had a distaste for it. It bothers me that my daughter can’t want TH-cam without being inundated with f-bombs and s-words.
Pints is honestly one of the only worthwhile channels on TH-cam, and one of the few good things spent time on on the internet. Trent Horn is great too. A few catholic mom bloggers (who are all some of the best Catholics you'll ever see), St Paul center, Ascension, and a few others are all I need.
I would disagree. Our words are our expression of the state of our being. No different than the person who is constantly going around complaining or gossiping. That reflects a negative state of mind. Yes they are still “just words” but we can draw a lot of conclusions from the words someone uses. The clothes we wear, the language we use, our hygiene, if someone chooses to tattoo skulls all over their face… all of these things from a materialistic point of view just “are what they are”. But we don’t see the world like that. We experience the world symbolically and all of these things become “meaning” to the person one is engaging with.
It seems to me that most people have grown up with certain words, used and taught by their peers or family members, to grab quick attention when regular words might not convey the importance of a particular or sudden event at hand. This can happen when something surprising or dangerous happens, such as looking out on the horizon and seeing a tornado or forest fire approaching. Or, maybe, seeing a purse or wallet fall into the water by mistake while boating or fishing. The reaction would normally be one of imminent shock and with some of the words most commonly starting with the word : OHHH!!! ... and finishing with "My Goodness" (if you are a nun), but usually something much more fecal or profanefor the common 'Joe'. The word chosen is usually to express the seriousness of what is happening and might even be useful for conveying to others that something extraordinarily dangerous is imminently possible. When others hear such a statement, their ears will definitely perk up and they will understand that some quick action demanded to remedy the situation. So, I can see some benefits for such swear words, if the circumstance demands immediate action to avoid catastrophe or death. For instance, it would have been better for the captain of the Titanic to have expressed some swear words to his crewmen so that they would be more energized and vigilant in their grave duties. Basically, such swearing might be like a dog viciously barking to send an important warning or message. And as we all know, there is a biblical saying "woe is the dog that doesn't bark". But if a person continually swears, they become like "The boy that cried 'Wolf'". And so, the exclamation would be without a beneficial effect to avoid some tragedy. To warn others in a timely manner, even by swearing, is charitable and virtuous. To keep silent when there is an urgent necessity to warn others ..is negligence, carelessness, uncharitable, selfish and cowardly....which are all considered to be vices.
Interesting perspective but riddle me this: If these words are irredeemably bad in any and all cases as some people seem to believe, why are people cool to come up with these really bizarre euphemisms like “dang, gosh, golly, etc.?” As far as I know, the reason the words we see as “curse words” are considered to be bad is due to their Germanic roots from centuries ago that had to do with societal differences between peasants and nobility. Nobility didn’t speak in the tongue of peasants and vice versa. I’m not aware of the finer details as to why some people thing they’re bad in each and every case but if there aren’t any, who’s to say the euphemisms we replace them with aren’t the same? I mean, whenever somebody uses phrases like “the F word” or “the B word” like it’s somehow better, I think it just causes others to say it in their own minds. Yes, using very base words like f*** to describe the marital act wouldn’t be proper and needs to be avoided to honor the sacredness of it but very often when that word is used, it’s also used in non-sexual contexts. If I’m talking with a buddy and I throw in a little enhancement to describe my aptly how my day at work was, I don’t understand how that’s not (in some cases) appropriate. I suppose in a rightly-ordered manner, everything has its’ proper place, though. Just as he illustrated in his point in this video with reaching down to what’s lower, are there not things appropriate of such a measure? The tissue I used to blow my nose and the empty beer can aren’t sacred at all and I won’t reflect on how those objects feel when they’re discarded. When a cop conducts a high-risk felony traffic stop, he might speak a little roughly to the suspect to get him to cooperate. Same for a firefighter pulling people out of a burning and collapsing house. I’d argue sometimes it’s called for. I’m not talking about profanity which has to do with lowering what is sacred like using Our Lords’ name carelessly or in vein or in reference to the marital act. Of course that needs to be avoided. We need to keep a guard on our tongues and avoid slander and speaking carelessly, yes, but the argument that those words are never appropriate to use seems baseless to me. I’ll grant that most of the time when they’re used today, it’s when they don’t need to be but I don’t accept the argument that they have no place. If tomorrow everybody were to wake up and all of the taboo words as we know them were completely wiped from everybody’s memories as well as every song, film or piece of literature, I’m of the opinion we’d find some different words to take their place that would become “curse words.” In the interest of prudence, modesty and decorum, however, my view is that it’s better not to speak that way most of the time. A broader vocabulary shows a command of one’s language.
I think there must be some very rare occasions that you're right. From what I understand, and definitely not an expert but have heard from multiple teachers, the word in the New Testament when he says he is like "dung" is actually, culturally speaking more like our sh** word. It's that offensive. So if that's true then there's something so extreme to be conveyed. But I do think we all have gotten so used to using foul language and to using it for laughs that we really need to reform ourselves. I also wonder about the dangs, etc. I've heard traditional priests say that even those are, like you say, exactly the same as saying the words. But then I throw my hands up in despair cuz how are we supposed to get better. What exactly do we say? Jonathan didn't give any suggestions. I try to immediately pray or give it to Jesus but sometimes when you're in pain you just can't help saying something! I guess I'm just making excuses😅
That's the riddle Christ poses. The uniter of the extremes! That who is naked in shame and naked in glory! What revelation must we have to consider the place for words?
I see what you are saying. I refer to words from the 4 letter words on down to substitutes such as "shucks" as "exasperatives". I see it as a battle against exasperation and a battle for gratitude in all circumstances.
This argument didn't make that much sense to me, and I'm really trying to understand it. In corporate or social environments I keep my language very clean and professional. But sometimes working blue collar work in tough conditions you need some way to get frustration out and swearing is probably the most harmless way to do it especially if it's not directed towards someone, but to conditions and hardship. In the same way that combative sports helps tame physical frustration and aggression, swearing helps with that mental frustration.
when I hear Christians constnatly cursing, and I dont mean using words that may be vulgar but not instrinsically immoral lke the SH word or something, I can always tell there is something off in their spiritual life.
I have a problem with how many will surely apply this sort of reasoning, and that would be by using “clean” swear words. Nothing says “lukewarm Christian” to me like those gosh darn fake swear words, shoot, heck. You want to be perceived as good and still get the benefit of condemning difficult situations with disorderly language. The perfect words for fence-sitters who want to please everybody and inadvertently end up pleasing nobody.
Scripture talks a good number of times about foul language and never has anything good to say. Seems reasonable to me that swearing should be discouraged.
I thought there was merit to his argument, though it didn't resonate as the reason I try to avoid swearing. If I think about why... I mean, scriptural counsel not to cuss has probably heavily informed my thinking in a 'just being obedient to that and trusting it's good', way. But when I've thought about it more... Basically the thing for me is that I try to only do things that are more holy (good, etc) than if I didn't do them. Like, I always try to aim at the best thing (even if I struggle to figure out what that is, or thinking I see it, miss it). And it just never seems to occur to me in the moment that cussing is the most spiritually fruitful, actively 'good' thing I can do at that moment. It's usually better for me to sit and think about what *would* be a better response in that moment, and do that. So in my case I guess I think less about the specifics of why it's 'wrong', and more about the nature of how alternatives are better, and try to choose what's better.
I know that I should avoid swearing but sometimes during times of frustration swear words act as a pressure release valve to help blow off some steam. We use words “to express ourselves with language beyond expression” as he put it. Which is true. What language should we use then or are we just supposed to hold it all in? He never gave us an alternative to swearing or a solution to overcome swearing other than don’t do it.
Not always wrong. We literally pray in the st Michael prayer to damn Satan to hell. Is that's not a holy use of a legitimate curse, I don't know what is.
I’m a visual learner so I really appreciate the analogy of bringing words up and bringing words down, in sort of a tangible way with how he shows and explains it. It makes a lot of sense to me in a way that I’ve never thought of before. Great discussion, thanks!
A real gem. Got me thinking about language in a different way. Few things bother me more than people who swear constantly. It makes me want to run away, it’s hard to take and when I imagine what their interior life must be like I feel very dismayed.
I'd also argue that when you swear, you're "playing God", in that you're trying to force your own perception of reality onto God's. It's also true of any time we act out of God's will and out of our own will instead.
People trying to defend foul language or find loop holes here is really telling. It's a terrible witness. Matthew 15:11 (NKJV) "Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.” Luke 6:45 (NKJV) "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."
I agree. People will defend their habits even if they wrong. I will not act like I do not curse, but I will never say that such words are good or that I should not try my best to not use them.
@@OrthoLou yes, but the content of those words that were invented by man are crude, offensive, and profane. That is the point of swear words. So the passage applies well.
Fr Ripperger says you empower the demons of the air when you swear. I need to tell my friend to stop using some words jokingly. It's usually a response to me ribbing him.
An additional teaching I found very convicting on this topic was on the TH-cam channel of Alisha Childers. The program was how "Progressive Christianity " has some unbiblical views. If interested search " Can Christians Cuss?/w Mike Winger." At the 1:40 mark, Mike Winger points out Scripture goes much further than that. I listen to Protestant and Catholic teachers. I grow in my walk with God because of it.
I’ve been struggling with this. Much needed video🙏 I feel like today people’s sense of humor involve mostly swearing and it ends up rubbing off on me. I should be more conscious of the spiritual consequences.
Thank you so much! I used to swear all the time and used to have fun out of it until one day I tried to be honest with myself and asked this simple question: why don't you swear in front of your kids? Because swearing is bad and not fun. I realized that this bad habit unfortunately became a daily routine and I could not get rid of it by myself. That's when I asked Jesus: "If you are who my wife says you are [GOD] please clean my mouth. And that's how He conquered my dirty mouth. :) Since then Jesus gave me the grace not to drag words out of the lower sphere and its way better! Thank you Jesus!
@@Unclenate1000 I hear what you are saying and I see your point. Although, as a matter of personal growth and maturity, I have indeed worked on curbing my tongue. I have a perfectly good education, up to the college level, with a vocabulary to match. Why do I need to use vulgar and pedestrian language? I like to think that God finds my effort to avoid foul language pleasing. Amen?
@@OrthoLou Agree with the sentiment/reasoning; however, I'll caveat your caveat (LOL) by saying that exclaiming the Lord's name may not even be a bad thing in itself, if, for instance, in a supplicational context; since our Protobros complain we don't use the Bible often enough, here's the opener of Psalm 130: _"Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord; O Lord, hear my voice."_
@@OrthoLou Yeah, that is my point: sometimes people will exclaim for the Lord (in the sense of "Help me! Avail me!"), and some other people may misconstrue the act of exclamaing itself as being "in vain"
I heard somewhere once, "Would you use the tongue which you were given to receive the very Body and Blood of the crucified and risen Lord for any speech or utterance that doesn't glorify Him? But instead crucifies Him again?" Or something like that...that was enough for me. Thanks for reminding me. ❤ I'm going to go to confession now.
No it does not crucify Him again. He has only been crucified only once and for all time. However, cursing and foul language batters and scars the speaker's inner self which is the image of God he was created with and for which he is called to discover and embody his full Christ like potential and become a real brother or sister of Christ. He urged his followers to let go of the ego self and empty into Jesus Christ's perfect submission to the Father's will while he walked on the earth. I believe His deepest desire is for us to become into Him in order to share the intensely beautiful beingness and oneness with the Father who is Love.
Ask yourself this if Jesus was to come over to your house to have dinner with you, play cards (go fish) and just hang out, would you swear in front of him, In front of God himself?
@femaleKCRoyals fan...excellent comment. I had an NDE last year and saw the Lord in "His" house. Each day i feel his presence, and "try" to emulate what He would do in Thoughts, Words, and Actions. I do not always live up to those standards, but i assume that's what confession is for! It's bleepin' tuff being human (just kidding!). Together in Christ.
Maybe not in ecclesiastical Latin but in regular Latin there are. At least there are all the same excrement words that were used like swear words (in graffiti, books etc) so it stands to reason they were the foul language of those times.
Are we going to talk about how much more common swearing in the public sphere is in the last 2-3 years than before? Public spokespeople in everyday conversations or interviews who talk like sailors as if this "reaching down" has no meaning.
English swear words are usually short, monosyllabic, punchy words that, when used judiciously, can make a rap song sound amazing or really drive the point home in a stand up comedy set, they're also fun to say
I think that my trouble with swearing is that it stops us from thinking. Swearing *sounds* as though it makes sense, but it doesn't. If I drop a rock on my foot, what I might say is illogical, I don't want the rock to be consigned to a universe of effluent. That wouldn't be harmful to the rock being not-destructive if smelly, nor do I want myself to be consigned to such a universe, being smelly if not destructive. And of course, our universal adjective makes no sense at all, ever. So if we talk making no sense, we will think making no sense since we think as we talk. Wittgenstein shows the connection between word and meaning, as if we needed him to do that. If our words have no meaning, our thoughts will have no meaning. And of course, Jonathan is right. That which is _profanum_ involves the temple (the meaning of the word) as if it were not the temple but just a concept to use to express our own anger --- justified or not --- and so debases thought, life, and worship.
Wow... profound, deep, but at the same time very digestible, understandable and logical. And the final point regarding people who swear as a normal and regular pattern and their own internal spiritual disjunction, this is also profound and worth pondering at length. It's a sign to reach out and find a way to help them reflect and heal... at the right time and situation.
This is so immature lol, but this reminds me of an episode of South Park where they conjure up an ancient curse that almost destroys the world due to an increase in foul language going mainstream.
Overly pious on swearing. 🤬 You should focus more on the end to blasphemy and thus making comparable the Lords name and excrement. It is this which is most perverse and poisonous.
NO priest: people have been complaining about my language (swearing). this is God’s language! ...decades later... TLM priest: swearing isnt inherently evil. swearing =/= profanity me: i guess swearing aint so bad.
General rule of thumb(s): 1) Do NOT use the Lords' name in VAIN. 2) Do not curse when angry, or unable to formulate diction to clearly describe what you want to say. 3a) Don't swear to replace words cuz you lack proper vocabulary. 4) We all know specific curse words that are "off limits" cuz they denigrate human civility! 5) Otherwise, be respectful and don't get too f@#%in' hung up about it!
Does this dude ever quote the bible? Its like all he does is go on super long tangents and philosophical symbolic rants and stuff like I get it youre not protestant but sheesh making me miss stephen anderso
"If you shit on the kitchen table, you will destroy reality." - JP
“No foul language should come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for needed edification, that it may impart grace to those who hear.”
Ephesians 4:29
Prooftext much?.
@Zesty Lemon Zach We should be glorifying God in our thoughts, words & deeds. This is the meaning of life.
GREAT verse -- other translations replace foul with 'unclean' , 'profane' , 'unwholesome' -- all pretty to clear to me.
@@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou focus less on catholicism and more being a Christian instead!
“[27] As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out to Jesus, “Blessed is the mother who gave birth to you and nursed you.” [28] But Jesus said, “No, blessed are those who hear the teaching of God and obey it.””
Luke 11:27-28 NCV
Verse 27 describes the modern equivalent of (continually) praying the Hail Mary.
Verse 28 describes how the people who truly have faith and a relationship with Jesus are greater than those who follow a denomination or religion.
Amen 🙏
It's always interesting to me to hear people who don't believe in Jesus call out his full name when they're in distress or at their wit's end. It's like their spirit and their subconscious know who to ask for help.
Christ is King, in Quebec they yell “Tabernac!” The unbelievers in my family invoke Christ’s name unconsciously 10 times a day I’d recon.
I just follow it up anytime anyone unconsciously says His name with “IS KING!!!”
The best argument is the most simple argument that is convincing.
My Mother got me to stop swearing (aside from occasional outbursts) by asking me to consider that I receive my Lord with that mouth.
I apply the same reasoning to praying for those that make me angry. I speak to my Lord with that heart; therefor I should endeavor to make it as clean as possible.
Ooh, I like that!
Thanks for sharing.
Some very good advice, thank you.
“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming." -Matthew 25:13
What if you just answered "Yes," or "Why wouldn't I?"
I once heard someone say that we shouldn’t swear because our Eucharistic Lord shouldn’t be received on a tongue that spews such filth. That’s also true of things like gossip, lying, etc. I’ve never forgotten that. I very rarely swear but unfortunately the words are often in my internal thought processes. I need to fix that.
@@OrthoLou do you think there will be "bad words" in Heaven?
I think if the Spirit of Truth, Goodness and Beauty lives in us, then there will be certain words, tone, sounds and images that just won't jive well (be compatible) with that "higher wave length" and consequently will be recognized as "filth" or "offensive", not true to our higher nature. Somewhere I recently read something to the effect (which can apply to this theme of swearing! ) of: "by the words of your mouth I will know your heart" and "do not "judge" someone till you hear them speak"
Thanks for this. This has to be the best spiritual explanation I've ever heard regarding why we shouldn't swear... Great stuff!
Absolutely. I agree completely
@@jeffreyfitzgerald8541 Jonathan Pageau has a tendency to do that for a lot of things he explains. Dude is mind blowing in the most unique way… listening to Pageau in some ways takes me back to listening to long Krishnamurti or Alan Watts talks, except unlike them it’s coherent and although challenging it is far for rewarding and life changing
Far more*
I've been lazy lukewarm Catholic my 49 years with all the associated bad habits. I'm working towards 100% Traditional Catholic values and teachings. Its very eye opening to think how wrong we live without even a second thought. A confessor told me that the Eucharist enters through your mouth, it needs to be kept pure. After decades of
" normal" speech its a tough habit to break.
I like hearing stories like yours. I know I am not the best Catholic and it is tempting for me to renounce the faith altogether because I cannot be perfect. Being a traditional Catholic is countercultural.
@@IONov990 The Almighty Father knows all about us. He knows you cannot be perfect. We all fail. Start over. But NEVER give up your Faith, to do so is to sentence yourself to hell for eternity. Perseverance is required to attain Eternal Life, never give up, never give in!
@@mattberg916 It must be frustrating watching someone make the same mistakes.
@@IONov990 try to contemplate the depth of the love of the Father in light of us and our actions. In this thread we're just talking about foul language. Abortion, adultry, murder....the list of our transgressions is endless and He still loves us. You mentioned Traditional Faith is counter cultural, we are commanded to be detached from this world. Even as a lukewarm Catholic I've never really been interested in the silliness of society. I think that has been a Grace of God. The more you give to this world, which is the domain of the evil one, the less you have to offer to the Father. It's a struggle to be truly faithful and to live by the Will of the Father because we allow ourselves to be immersed in 'self' and what the world presents to us as the newest and coolest. Being humble to the point of death is not cool, but absolutely nothing is more valuable and Immortal
I used to swear and say God's name in vain, but when I turned a Christian, a few weeks of praying and attention completely erased those from my vocabulary. I'll pray for you, may God help you!
I am a Trad Catholic who has a problem with joke swearing (not God’s name, just crass words). It just makes jokes land so good. I need to break this bad habit as it does indeed bring up the bad without even knowingly doing so. It also makes others see me as no different then the average lukewarm Christian. Pray for me please! Dominus Vobiscum!
Et cum spirito tuo frates.
If you consider it as using swearing is the wide path and being very very funny without it is the narrow path, that might help. Anyone can drop the F bomb, it takes skill to be truly funny.
@@bigphilly7345 I specify Trad because today there are many who think Joe Biden IS Catholic. Obviously he is really not, but to prevent misinterpretation I like to be descriptive. Using your logic we should just be Christians, but we don’t say that for the same reason I specify Trad Catholic. Dominus Vobiscum!
@@bigphilly7345 It is sad indeed.
Joke swearing is good, there is a time and a place for mixing the sacred with the filth, when you are tearing down an idol. Humor is a good at this. Mocking the fears that rule people help them to fear only the Lord.
4:04
I have the same dilemma... But when I submit to rage, all the Jamaican profanity spews out like a Pentecostal speaking in tongues. Then I sink into remorse thinking how that "every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement".
haha, me too brother. Let us overcome!
Amen…..sometimes the Italian/Irish anger comes flying out of my mouth. We’re all sinners, but thank God for our savior!
“Oh copulate” is hilarious, it’s a shame I’d feel guilty using it.
5:30 These arguments still depend on some words being "bad" even if they mean the same thing as not "bad" words. These are still terrible arguments because they depend on circulatory assumptions.
I have difficulty with swearing. As a Catholic, there is always a reason to confess. It is a long road until salvation.
No one knows when there last day will be
@@martinanderson4262 Hopefully not anytime soon because I haven't gone to confession.
@@IONov990 no need to talk to a priest, talk to Jesus in prayer! He tells us to follow him, not to follow the leader of the church.
“And you must not call anyone here on earth ‘Father’, because you have only the one Father in heaven.”
Matthew 23:9 GNBDK
It’s a long road of sanctification.
@@debblouin I'd love to wake up sinless. I've romanticized living as a nun and I imagine they have no sin.
One of the most interesting things I have heard in a long while.
And rings so true, especially when you do think of a person who is constantly (almost unconsciously) foul mouthed; both with swearing and profanity mixed together…..it reflects some inner disjunction and darkness…..and yet look how it has become both commonplace and celebrated in culture and entertainment.
'Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.' Matthew 15:11
I am not persuaded.
I often think that cursing packs a punch if used like an exclamation mark (ie: not often) to convey a bigger emotion. However, I readily admit that in most every case, cursing makes me sound dumber and is not a good representation of Christ's flock to the world.
Beautifully put
South Park did an episode on how curse words literally curse the world and it was actually super deep and symbolic.
Despite being a parody or commentary on society they tend to hit the nail on the head.
I need to listen to the whole talk!!!!
So, what is the alternative to those two scenarios?
FWIW, I refer to them as "exasperatives". I see it as a battle against exasperation and a battle for gratitude in all circumstances.
@4:04 😂. While explaining why one shouldn't swear or curse.
Despite the title of this clip, I think Pageau is describing what swearing is and what it means, not saying whether or not it's ever okay to swear. He did definitely say it's wrong to use holy things as swear words though.
@@jacob5283 yeah Pageau rarely moralizes so I was confused by the title. He just gives you the structure, he never tell you if the breakdown is good or bad.
But I think it was appropriate there as he is describing that if you sh** on the table the whole world ends! Lol I know if mama catches anyone doing that on her table the world would explode😅 and any parent who has literally spent an hour + cleaning it off of the walls, crib, toys etc can agree- life literally ends for that period. It is sooo upsetting and just cannot be ignored. So I think it's an analogy like that. If you bring these things into normal conversation then you've caused a break in the flow. These days it seems quite natural but who knows how much better and productive conversations have been or could be when we didn't sink to those depths.
Excellent explanation
Some very interesting ideas here. Thank you.
Keep on being truthful and faithful to the Lord, seek understanding and knowledge of the word of God.
Be strong, have compassion and intimacy with the Lord. -God is with you, you do not have to fear. Pray, read your bible and let him work, he will never leave you, obey his words and talk to him. Seek Christ, seek the truth. Flee from sin and truly try.
I'm an avid swearer. Such to the point I forget that I'm doing it even in work related settings. My friends say I lack tact. It makes me wonder if my swearing plays into the character of not caring about the consequences that my words Might have on others. This video sort of revealed way too much information to me that I am willing to handle, but for that I am grateful.
How’s it going now
Thank you
Swearing in my generation (born 1996) has become very much like tattoos. It is far more rebellious to have clear skin, and a clean mouth these days than to do otherwise.
This is a much deeper message from Pageau that expresses a similar observation of our words made by Jordan Peterson. He stated that you should stop saying things that make you feel weak, and start saying the things that make you feel strong. His observation is that even non-religious people can feel this sort of dismantling of their world, it is a feeling we all know very well. Jonathan, as usual, conceptualizes this in extraordinary detail in a matter of minutes. I love hearing you two speak, Merry Christmas to you both.
Wow! Very enlightening. However, just playing Devil’s Advocate here; as a linguist, I would say not all cases of swearing are indicative of someone’s spiritual deficiencies, indicative of their lack of concern for harmony between people, etc. It could just be that it is a learned part of their lexicon, as innate and automatic as inserting superfluous likes into one’s speech.
However, this is not to suggest, of course, that it is OK to continue this behavior. That’s the thing about language, is that it is social. What is uttered by one person through innateness may be perceived by the listener to be profane and that may bring scandal. However, I play the role of Devil’s Advocate here to point out that we should be careful when making these connections lest we learn to make associations when we hear a swearer that ought not be made.
I run across this quite a bit, especially with young people. I was a bit disconcerted a few days ago, walking across a university campas. A very sweet looking young lady walked by me with a young man. Her words were just a stream of foul language.
I think it “speaks” to the general degradation of our culture.
As a language teacher, I agree, Todd, that for too many it's just something they picked up from their family or surroundings. After all, we first learn by imitating.... without critiquing...
And even when we are old enough to know better, if we are regularly exposed to "unbecoming" words and images, it's almost impossible to prevent them from "sticking" to you and becoming part of your use and reality.
I can still remember how I grew up in a home where no one cursed or swore or used vulgar terms, but when I got to college and had a lovely roommate who nevertheless frequently used the "sh_ _" word, without malice, just casually; it would bother me and I probably kindly commented to her on it at first, but it was hard for her to stop. To my great chagrin, I found myself before the end of the school year also using the same word as a carthatic expression! It was really disturbing to me and humbling... I did later deliberately work hard on eliminating that bad habit (yes, once in a while I slip 🤭). And that roommate became one of my best friends.
So I agree with your ending thoughts too, because greater human understanding helps us not to judge ( and likely misjudge) so swiftly which is what Jesus demands of us: do not judge ...
This was amazing
As a Protestant convert to Catholicism, I sometimes say I never used to smoke or drink or swear until I became Catholic.
Actually, I still do none of them. Profanity wasn’t a part either of my upbringing or my religious upbringing, so I’ve just always had a distaste for it. It bothers me that my daughter can’t want TH-cam without being inundated with f-bombs and s-words.
Pints is honestly one of the only worthwhile channels on TH-cam, and one of the few good things spent time on on the internet. Trent Horn is great too. A few catholic mom bloggers (who are all some of the best Catholics you'll ever see), St Paul center, Ascension, and a few others are all I need.
Marian Fathers channel too (Divine Mercy). Amazing as well
It's just words.
I would disagree. Our words are our expression of the state of our being. No different than the person who is constantly going around complaining or gossiping. That reflects a negative state of mind. Yes they are still “just words” but we can draw a lot of conclusions from the words someone uses. The clothes we wear, the language we use, our hygiene, if someone chooses to tattoo skulls all over their face… all of these things from a materialistic point of view just “are what they are”. But we don’t see the world like that. We experience the world symbolically and all of these things become “meaning” to the person one is engaging with.
The Bible is...just words. 🤔
It seems to me that most people have grown up with certain words, used and taught by their peers or family members, to grab quick attention when regular words might not convey the importance of a particular or sudden event at hand. This can happen when something surprising or dangerous happens, such as looking out on the horizon and seeing a tornado or forest fire approaching. Or, maybe, seeing a purse or wallet fall into the water by mistake while boating or fishing. The reaction would normally be one of imminent shock and with some of the words most commonly starting with the word : OHHH!!! ... and finishing with "My Goodness" (if you are a nun), but usually something much more fecal or profanefor the common 'Joe'. The word chosen is usually to express the seriousness of what is happening and might even be useful for conveying to others that something extraordinarily dangerous is imminently possible. When others hear such a statement, their ears will definitely perk up and they will understand that some quick action demanded to remedy the situation.
So, I can see some benefits for such swear words, if the circumstance demands immediate action to avoid catastrophe or death. For instance, it would have been better for the captain of the Titanic to have expressed some swear words to his crewmen so that they would be more energized and vigilant in their grave duties.
Basically, such swearing might be like a dog viciously barking to send an important warning or message. And as we all know, there is a biblical saying "woe is the dog that doesn't bark".
But if a person continually swears, they become like "The boy that cried 'Wolf'". And so, the exclamation would be without a beneficial effect to avoid some tragedy. To warn others in a timely manner, even by swearing, is charitable and virtuous. To keep silent when there is an urgent necessity to warn others ..is negligence, carelessness, uncharitable, selfish and cowardly....which are all considered to be vices.
Interesting perspective but riddle me this:
If these words are irredeemably bad in any and all cases as some people seem to believe, why are people cool to come up with these really bizarre euphemisms like “dang, gosh, golly, etc.?” As far as I know, the reason the words we see as “curse words” are considered to be bad is due to their Germanic roots from centuries ago that had to do with societal differences between peasants and nobility. Nobility didn’t speak in the tongue of peasants and vice versa. I’m not aware of the finer details as to why some people thing they’re bad in each and every case but if there aren’t any, who’s to say the euphemisms we replace them with aren’t the same? I mean, whenever somebody uses phrases like “the F word” or “the B word” like it’s somehow better, I think it just causes others to say it in their own minds. Yes, using very base words like f*** to describe the marital act wouldn’t be proper and needs to be avoided to honor the sacredness of it but very often when that word is used, it’s also used in non-sexual contexts. If I’m talking with a buddy and I throw in a little enhancement to describe my aptly how my day at work was, I don’t understand how that’s not (in some cases) appropriate. I suppose in a rightly-ordered manner, everything has its’ proper place, though. Just as he illustrated in his point in this video with reaching down to what’s lower, are there not things appropriate of such a measure? The tissue I used to blow my nose and the empty beer can aren’t sacred at all and I won’t reflect on how those objects feel when they’re discarded. When a cop conducts a high-risk felony traffic stop, he might speak a little roughly to the suspect to get him to cooperate. Same for a firefighter pulling people out of a burning and collapsing house. I’d argue sometimes it’s called for.
I’m not talking about profanity which has to do with lowering what is sacred like using Our Lords’ name carelessly or in vein or in reference to the marital act. Of course that needs to be avoided.
We need to keep a guard on our tongues and avoid slander and speaking carelessly, yes, but the argument that those words are never appropriate to use seems baseless to me. I’ll grant that most of the time when they’re used today, it’s when they don’t need to be but I don’t accept the argument that they have no place. If tomorrow everybody were to wake up and all of the taboo words as we know them were completely wiped from everybody’s memories as well as every song, film or piece of literature, I’m of the opinion we’d find some different words to take their place that would become “curse words.” In the interest of prudence, modesty and decorum, however, my view is that it’s better not to speak that way most of the time. A broader vocabulary shows a command of one’s language.
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I think there must be some very rare occasions that you're right. From what I understand, and definitely not an expert but have heard from multiple teachers, the word in the New Testament when he says he is like "dung" is actually, culturally speaking more like our sh** word. It's that offensive. So if that's true then there's something so extreme to be conveyed. But I do think we all have gotten so used to using foul language and to using it for laughs that we really need to reform ourselves. I also wonder about the dangs, etc. I've heard traditional priests say that even those are, like you say, exactly the same as saying the words. But then I throw my hands up in despair cuz how are we supposed to get better. What exactly do we say? Jonathan didn't give any suggestions. I try to immediately pray or give it to Jesus but sometimes when you're in pain you just can't help saying something! I guess I'm just making excuses😅
That's the riddle Christ poses. The uniter of the extremes! That who is naked in shame and naked in glory! What revelation must we have to consider the place for words?
Sentence enhancers and colorful metaphors aren’t for everyone. Bad words? Nope. No such thing.😉
I see what you are saying. I refer to words from the 4 letter words on down to substitutes such as "shucks" as "exasperatives". I see it as a battle against exasperation and a battle for gratitude in all circumstances.
This argument didn't make that much sense to me, and I'm really trying to understand it. In corporate or social environments I keep my language very clean and professional. But sometimes working blue collar work in tough conditions you need some way to get frustration out and swearing is probably the most harmless way to do it especially if it's not directed towards someone, but to conditions and hardship.
In the same way that combative sports helps tame physical frustration and aggression, swearing helps with that mental frustration.
when I hear Christians constnatly cursing, and I dont mean using words that may be vulgar but not instrinsically immoral lke the SH word or something, I can always tell there is something off in their spiritual life.
I have a problem with how many will surely apply this sort of reasoning, and that would be by using “clean” swear words.
Nothing says “lukewarm Christian” to me like those gosh darn fake swear words, shoot, heck. You want to be perceived as good and still get the benefit of condemning difficult situations with disorderly language.
The perfect words for fence-sitters who want to please everybody and inadvertently end up pleasing nobody.
What do you think? Is swearing always wrong? What did you think of Jonathan's argument?
No. Context matters. His argument only talks about habitual swearing, excited utterances, or using sacred words/names in a profane way.
Scripture talks a good number of times about foul language and never has anything good to say. Seems reasonable to me that swearing should be discouraged.
I thought there was merit to his argument, though it didn't resonate as the reason I try to avoid swearing. If I think about why... I mean, scriptural counsel not to cuss has probably heavily informed my thinking in a 'just being obedient to that and trusting it's good', way. But when I've thought about it more... Basically the thing for me is that I try to only do things that are more holy (good, etc) than if I didn't do them. Like, I always try to aim at the best thing (even if I struggle to figure out what that is, or thinking I see it, miss it). And it just never seems to occur to me in the moment that cussing is the most spiritually fruitful, actively 'good' thing I can do at that moment. It's usually better for me to sit and think about what *would* be a better response in that moment, and do that.
So in my case I guess I think less about the specifics of why it's 'wrong', and more about the nature of how alternatives are better, and try to choose what's better.
I know that I should avoid swearing but sometimes during times of frustration swear words act as a pressure release valve to help blow off some steam. We use words “to express ourselves with language beyond expression” as he put it. Which is true. What language should we use then or are we just supposed to hold it all in? He never gave us an alternative to swearing or a solution to overcome swearing other than don’t do it.
Not always wrong. We literally pray in the st Michael prayer to damn Satan to hell. Is that's not a holy use of a legitimate curse, I don't know what is.
Every time I slip and say "GDI", I feel like a kid who did something wrong. I swear a lot, but using God's name to damn an object is a no no.
I’m a visual learner so I really appreciate the analogy of bringing words up and bringing words down, in sort of a tangible way with how he shows and explains it. It makes a lot of sense to me in a way that I’ve never thought of before. Great discussion, thanks!
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A real gem. Got me thinking about language in a different way. Few things bother me more than people who swear constantly. It makes me want to run away, it’s hard to take and when I imagine what their interior life must be like I feel very dismayed.
Hmmmm
Irony of the 2nd rule of commenting
What of 'excrement'?
Thumbnail had me expecting a sewing video.
It's hard because of the nature of humour. Being crass and vulgar can fit very well with good humour.
I'd also argue that when you swear, you're "playing God", in that you're trying to force your own perception of reality onto God's. It's also true of any time we act out of God's will and out of our own will instead.
Wow! What a great explanation!
Did he really curse in a video about not cursing 4:05
Okay not join the military. THE F. WORD IS USED AS A PERIOD.
My son was salty before the Marines. Now he's a pillar of salt 😣
So what is meant by “swearing”? The use of profanities, making an oath, cursing, invoking God to curse some thing or someone, or all?
People trying to defend foul language or find loop holes here is really telling. It's a terrible witness.
Matthew 15:11 (NKJV)
"Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
Luke 6:45 (NKJV)
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."
I agree. People will defend their habits even if they wrong. I will not act like I do not curse, but I will never say that such words are good or that I should not try my best to not use them.
@@OrthoLou You’re just proving my point. It’s fallacious to deny my argument on the basis of the translation. They all make the same point.
@@OrthoLou No, that’s incorrect. It’s the content of the heart, or the source of where the words are coming from that is the issue.
@@OrthoLou yes, but the content of those words that were invented by man are crude, offensive, and profane. That is the point of swear words. So the passage applies well.
Amen
That was all very confusing to me maybe because English isn't my first language :(
Fr Ripperger says you empower the demons of the air when you swear. I need to tell my friend to stop using some words jokingly. It's usually a response to me ribbing him.
Good idea. Just a reminder that there are reasons to avoid being the near occasion of sin.
An additional teaching I found very convicting on this topic was on the TH-cam channel of Alisha Childers. The program was how "Progressive Christianity " has some unbiblical views. If interested search " Can Christians Cuss?/w Mike Winger." At the 1:40 mark, Mike Winger points out Scripture goes much further than that. I listen to Protestant and Catholic teachers. I grow in my walk with God because of it.
I think Alisa is a crypto Catholic. I await news of her conversion at any day.
watch this at 1.5x 👍
I’ve been struggling with this. Much needed video🙏 I feel like today people’s sense of humor involve mostly swearing and it ends up rubbing off on me. I should be more conscious of the spiritual consequences.
It's true with comedians too. Almost all of them have to be crude or sexual. That's why I like comedians from my grandparent's generation.
Thank you so much! I used to swear all the time and used to have fun out of it until one day I tried to be honest with myself and asked this simple question: why don't you swear in front of your kids? Because swearing is bad and not fun. I realized that this bad habit unfortunately became a daily routine and I could not get rid of it by myself. That's when I asked Jesus: "If you are who my wife says you are [GOD] please clean my mouth. And that's how He conquered my dirty mouth. :) Since then Jesus gave me the grace not to drag words out of the lower sphere and its way better! Thank you Jesus!
Honestly, reminds me of that South Park episode
I wonder what David Mamet thinks of that.
Is it funny to anyone else that Jonathan uses the profane words when talking about defecating on the kitchen table???
I don’t know if a bleep in the editing would help. But Jonathan said the word *$hit*. 4:04. Freudian slip?
@@Unclenate1000 I hear what you are saying and I see your point. Although, as a matter of personal growth and maturity, I have indeed worked on curbing my tongue. I have a perfectly good education, up to the college level, with a vocabulary to match. Why do I need to use vulgar and pedestrian language? I like to think that God finds my effort to avoid foul language pleasing. Amen?
@@OrthoLou Agree with the sentiment/reasoning; however, I'll caveat your caveat (LOL) by saying that exclaiming the Lord's name may not even be a bad thing in itself, if, for instance, in a supplicational context; since our Protobros complain we don't use the Bible often enough, here's the opener of Psalm 130: _"Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord; O Lord, hear my voice."_
@@OrthoLou Yeah, that is my point: sometimes people will exclaim for the Lord (in the sense of "Help me! Avail me!"), and some other people may misconstrue the act of exclamaing itself as being "in vain"
Sarcasm is this very thing.
what about the music? I like hip hop a lot...
You allow that stuff into your mind???!!!!
I get annoyed with esoteric explanations.
Hmmm, our priest uses expletives all the time.
I very rarely take the Lords name in vein…but the other words🙆🏼♀️
This just blew my mind.
I heard somewhere once, "Would you use the tongue which you were given to receive the very Body and Blood of the crucified and risen Lord for any speech or utterance that doesn't glorify Him? But instead crucifies Him again?" Or something like that...that was enough for me. Thanks for reminding me. ❤ I'm going to go to confession now.
No it does not crucify Him again. He has only been crucified only once and for all time. However, cursing and foul language batters and scars the speaker's inner self which is the image of God he was created with and for which he is called to discover and embody his full Christ like potential and become a real brother or sister of Christ. He urged his followers to let go of the ego self and empty into Jesus Christ's perfect submission to the Father's will while he walked on the earth. I believe His deepest desire is for us to become into Him in order to share the intensely beautiful beingness and oneness with the Father who is Love.
Using "bad words" is literally crucifying Jesus.
Ask yourself this if Jesus was to come over to your house to have dinner with you, play cards (go fish) and just hang out, would you swear in front of him, In front of God himself?
@femaleKCRoyals fan...excellent comment. I had an NDE last year and saw the Lord in "His" house. Each day i feel his presence, and "try" to emulate what He would do in Thoughts, Words, and Actions. I do not always live up to those standards, but i assume that's what confession is for! It's bleepin' tuff being human (just kidding!).
Together in Christ.
The only thing I find offensive is using The Lord's name in vain. Everything else is open season.
Holy sh:t! This is effing incredible!… no actually this an incredible perspective.
Someone told me recently that one of the reasons the devil hates Latin is because there are no swear words. Mind blown!
Maybe not in ecclesiastical Latin but in regular Latin there are. At least there are all the same excrement words that were used like swear words (in graffiti, books etc) so it stands to reason they were the foul language of those times.
@@j.h.9376 I guess they must have meant ecclesiastical Latin
So ratfarts not good?
Are we going to talk about how much more common swearing in the public sphere is in the last 2-3 years than before? Public spokespeople in everyday conversations or interviews who talk like sailors as if this "reaching down" has no meaning.
Wow
English swear words are usually short, monosyllabic, punchy words that, when used judiciously, can make a rap song sound amazing or really drive the point home in a stand up comedy set, they're also fun to say
Well, I guess I'm never swearing again.
I think that my trouble with swearing is that it stops us from thinking. Swearing *sounds* as though it makes sense, but it doesn't. If I drop a rock on my foot, what I might say is illogical, I don't want the rock to be consigned to a universe of effluent. That wouldn't be harmful to the rock being not-destructive if smelly, nor do I want myself to be consigned to such a universe, being smelly if not destructive. And of course, our universal adjective makes no sense at all, ever. So if we talk making no sense, we will think making no sense since we think as we talk. Wittgenstein shows the connection between word and meaning, as if we needed him to do that. If our words have no meaning, our thoughts will have no meaning.
And of course, Jonathan is right. That which is _profanum_ involves the temple (the meaning of the word) as if it were not the temple but just a concept to use to express our own anger --- justified or not --- and so debases thought, life, and worship.
Wow... profound, deep, but at the same time very digestible, understandable and logical. And the final point regarding people who swear as a normal and regular pattern and their own internal spiritual disjunction, this is also profound and worth pondering at length. It's a sign to reach out and find a way to help them reflect and heal... at the right time and situation.
Why does Matt seem very agitated?
That's just my not-so-flattering resting face :)
@@pintswithaquinas so it wasn't guilt then? 😉
Brings a new meaning to “Holy $h!t”. This is profoundly interesting and I need more of this.
Swearing has become such a part of my vernacular I don't even notice when I'm doing it. Anyone have any tips on how to stop?
Yes, associate with people who don't swear. Read the Bible, think of hell everytime you cuss, think how guilty you'll feel in front of God.
This is so immature lol, but this reminds me of an episode of South Park where they conjure up an ancient curse that almost destroys the world due to an increase in foul language going mainstream.
Definitely one of my besetting sins.
Overly pious on swearing. 🤬
You should focus more on the end to blasphemy and thus making comparable the Lords name and excrement. It is this which is most perverse and poisonous.
Too complicated. One sounds stupid when they swear. Period.
Swearing is the habit I've been curbing lately. Timely.
wow, now I understand what swearing is and why I shouldn't do it. The most comprehensive explenation of swearing I have ever heard. Thank you!
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NO priest: people have been complaining about my language (swearing). this is God’s language!
...decades later...
TLM priest: swearing isnt inherently evil. swearing =/= profanity
me: i guess swearing aint so bad.
Matt please don`t use these catchy titles because I`m anxious to share the clip out of embarassment for you. Bless.
General rule of thumb(s):
1) Do NOT use the Lords' name in VAIN.
2) Do not curse when angry, or unable to formulate diction to clearly describe what you want to say.
3a) Don't swear to replace words cuz you lack proper vocabulary.
4) We all know specific curse words that are "off limits" cuz they denigrate human civility!
5) Otherwise, be respectful and don't get too f@#%in' hung up about it!
Does this dude ever quote the bible? Its like all he does is go on super long tangents and philosophical symbolic rants and stuff like I get it youre not protestant but sheesh making me miss stephen anderso