In Hawaii people were asked to vacate the wheelchair space so my son could ride. And the driver would tie down his chair. We are visiting London in June 2024. I hope the situation has improved. I will be able to help him. At least he won't face it alone.
Hope you all have a good trip. I hope everything goes well but expect some troubles. The legislation (ADA 1991) in the USA is much stronger there and lawsuits are regularly filed for violations/disability discrimination. Here in Canada, I am discriminated against regularly and we have very weak means to complain. Our Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario is a paper tiger. It is slow, weak and almost always sides with the abuser not the victim.
@@stratfordbaby Thank you. I'm looking forward to the trip but I'm a little nervous too. A new place and all. I'm sorry you run into problems from your disability. It's that way with victims and criminals too. It seems like the criminals have all the rights.😢
Wheelchair ramps are never broken to the point where it *doesn't* lift. I'm a bus operator myself. Even if the motor isn't working, the ramp can be lift manually and folded the same way. Some drivers either doesn't want to be bothered or have no sense of awareness. Simply, when you do your pre-trip, if the ramp is not operable than the bus is considered *inoperable*. Either the driver exchange buses before setting out or man-up, get out of the seat and unfold the ramp manually.
There are two problems with what you say - in London, at least. First of all, if a ramp doesn't extend fully, or is broken, or keeps popping in an out, then on several models of bus used by TfL, the driver does not have any sort of manual override to deploy the ramp himself/herself. Secondly, on pre-trip checks most TfL drivers do not check the ramp operation fully. They press the deploy-ramp button, allow the ramp to extend a few inches, hear the bleeps, and press the withdraw-ramp button. This is not a full check and often results in drivers setting off with faulty ramps.
I am blocking hypnostream for being ugly towards people with disabilities. No use in trying to lie about it. Any driver who pulls such crap that is pro discriminatory on any of the transit systems here in the U.S. gets terminated.
The best way to solve the issues as they lie now is to adopt the Equality Act 2010 as it is written at the relevant sections. This will speed up adaptation of stations much quicker, as these stations will be closed to all passengers. The law states that if a service is available to an able bodied person but not a disabled person, it must be modified so that it is accessible to all. While the service is not available to those in the protected characteristics list, it must also not be available to those who are not in the list. Hence the term Equality.
@@matthewdoyle3877The bus drivers need to treat the passengers well that cause no trouble. If I saw a passenger abusing the driver I would try to help.
The handicapped people certainly aren't to blame. All they want is transportation. It would be better to build with everyone in mind. Include everyone. If you are ever handicapped you will see.
Could you give us your name and bus company you work with? This kind of attitude is surely not welcomed. The Red Book (the guide for bus drivers) is clear. You should ask buggy users to make space for wheelchair and mobility scooter users.
You're quite wrong here, it's not first come first served. The UK law is clear. The wheelchair space is a wheelchair space and wheelchair users have priority to use that space. Since the Supreme Court Ruling of January 2017 it's also very clear that drivers must make a considerable effort to get the wheelchair space vacated when a wheelchair users needs it. It is no longer OK for a driver to shrug his/her shoulders at a wheelchair user and drive off without letting him/her board the bus.
Transport for All whilst I do agree with you it’s not always possible to fold up. Most travel systems that are designed with small babies in mind either do not fold or do not fold easily. Also when you have 3+ children traveling with you and a baby it is near on impossible to hold the hands of those other children whilst holding onto a baby who cannot yet walk and fold down a buggy at the same time. Also the buggy that I have (bugaboo) cannot be folded down using only one hand which means I either have to ask a stranger to hold my baby while I fold it (something I’m definitely not happy with) or I have to leave her in the buggy whilst I travel. I also feel that she is safer in the buggy should the bus have an accident than she would be on my lap. If the bus crashed and I fell on top of her or accidentally let go of her then that could kill her. At least if she’s in the buggy she would have some protection around her. I don’t think mothers with buggies should be asked to leave the bus. I think there should be sufficient space for buggies and wheel chair users to travel together peacefully. We all want to get from a to b as quickly and safely as possible and one persons journey is no more or less important than another persons.
Stapleton has an attitude problem! 50+ complaints? Has he got nothing better to do? Having worked in this industry I know managers will very quickly get fed up with him and do nothing. The majority of disabled people just go with the flow and accept what they can and can’t do. You can’t expect to be able to get on every bus first time. There might even be another disable person on it! Is he going to want them to get off so he can get on?
@@tooleyheadbang4239 Oh bloody hell yes! That arrogant sod deserves all he gets. I’ve seen most of his videos, but you can’t comment on any of them because he has: “comments are disabled for this video” (which is kind of ironic!) on all his videos! If I’d ever bumped into him before he’d become so notorious I would’ve helped him all I could, unless I was in a mad rush. He went to Hebden Bridge once on the train, about five years ago now I think, and a taxi was supposed to meet him at Mytholmroyd due to the fact the up platform at Hebden Bridge isn’t step-free, but it took ages to get there and find him. Why didn’t he just get a bus on the main road? Also, and better still, why didn’t he arrange to meet his “friends” at Mytholmroyd in the first place? They could then have gone on to Hebden Bridge together. When he returned why didn’t any of his so-called “friends” wait with him on Hebden Bridge station to make sure he got on the train home? Not the best sort of friends in my opinion! On another occasion Paulley went to Wrexham to speak at some disabled gathering or whatever, but was massively inconvenienced when the first train he got on in Leeds turned back at Stalybridge when it should’ve gone to Manchester Piccadilly. Now… I wonder why that was? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact Paulley screwed £5K out of sister company FirstBus when a woman with a sleeping baby refused to move for him??? Hmm…! All these silly discrimination cases are ridiculous. They’re just a childish way of scoring so-called brownie points, but ultimately they’ll back fire because companies will fight back and cause situations to happen like when Paulley’s train terminated short of its destination. If Paulley, and others, wound their necks in and cut the attitude they’d do much better in my opinion. I don’t really know how they deal with all the stress, most of which is self-inflicted!
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In Hawaii people were asked to vacate the wheelchair space so my son could ride. And the driver would tie down his chair. We are visiting London in June 2024. I hope the situation has improved. I will be able to help him. At least he won't face it alone.
Hope you all have a good trip. I hope everything goes well but expect some troubles. The legislation (ADA 1991) in the USA is much stronger there and lawsuits are regularly filed for violations/disability discrimination. Here in Canada, I am discriminated against regularly and we have very weak means to complain. Our Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario is a paper tiger. It is slow, weak and almost always sides with the abuser not the victim.
@@stratfordbaby Thank you. I'm looking forward to the trip but I'm a little nervous too. A new place and all. I'm sorry you run into problems from your disability. It's that way with victims and criminals too. It seems like the criminals have all the rights.😢
Wheelchair ramps are never broken to the point where it *doesn't* lift. I'm a bus operator myself. Even if the motor isn't working, the ramp can be lift manually and folded the same way. Some drivers either doesn't want to be bothered or have no sense of awareness. Simply, when you do your pre-trip, if the ramp is not operable than the bus is considered *inoperable*. Either the driver exchange buses before setting out or man-up, get out of the seat and unfold the ramp manually.
There are two problems with what you say - in London, at least. First of all, if a ramp doesn't extend fully, or is broken, or keeps popping in an out, then on several models of bus used by TfL, the driver does not have any sort of manual override to deploy the ramp himself/herself. Secondly, on pre-trip checks most TfL drivers do not check the ramp operation fully. They press the deploy-ramp button, allow the ramp to extend a few inches, hear the bleeps, and press the withdraw-ramp button. This is not a full check and often results in drivers setting off with faulty ramps.
And also tfl and london bus companies say drivers should not get out of there cabs
I drove a school bus. I have operated the lift manually before.
I am blocking hypnostream for being ugly towards people with disabilities. No use in trying to lie about it. Any driver who pulls such crap that is pro discriminatory on any of the transit systems here in the U.S. gets terminated.
The best way to solve the issues as they lie now is to adopt the Equality Act 2010 as it is written at the relevant sections. This will speed up adaptation of stations much quicker, as these stations will be closed to all passengers. The law states that if a service is available to an able bodied person but not a disabled person, it must be modified so that it is accessible to all. While the service is not available to those in the protected characteristics list, it must also not be available to those who are not in the list. Hence the term Equality.
Bus drivers some are rude and not helpful , though London Underground is less accessible they are much more helpful
Most bus drivers are miserable and treat passengers like dirt
Think you need to give your head a wobble, passengers abuse drivers, because drivers are an easy target and have no backup from absolutely nobody.
@@matthewdoyle3877The bus drivers need to treat the passengers well that cause no trouble. If I saw a passenger abusing the driver I would try to help.
London’s transport system is not designed with disabled people in mind and that is the saddest thing.
ALWAYS BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE KHAN
The handicapped people certainly aren't to blame. All they want is transportation. It would be better to build with everyone in mind. Include everyone. If you are ever handicapped you will see.
The handicapped people certainly are not to blame. Build for and include everyone. You will see if you are ever handicapped.
First come first serve sometimes my bus is full get over it
Could you give us your name and bus company you work with? This kind of attitude is surely not welcomed. The Red Book (the guide for bus drivers) is clear. You should ask buggy users to make space for wheelchair and mobility scooter users.
You're quite wrong here, it's not first come first served. The UK law is clear. The wheelchair space is a wheelchair space and wheelchair users have priority to use that space. Since the Supreme Court Ruling of January 2017 it's also very clear that drivers must make a considerable effort to get the wheelchair space vacated when a wheelchair users needs it. It is no longer OK for a driver to shrug his/her shoulders at a wheelchair user and drive off without letting him/her board the bus.
Transport for All whilst I do agree with you it’s not always possible to fold up. Most travel systems that are designed with small babies in mind either do not fold or do not fold easily. Also when you have 3+ children traveling with you and a baby it is near on impossible to hold the hands of those other children whilst holding onto a baby who cannot yet walk and fold down a buggy at the same time. Also the buggy that I have (bugaboo) cannot be folded down using only one hand which means I either have to ask a stranger to hold my baby while I fold it (something I’m definitely not happy with) or I have to leave her in the buggy whilst I travel. I also feel that she is safer in the buggy should the bus have an accident than she would be on my lap. If the bus crashed and I fell on top of her or accidentally let go of her then that could kill her. At least if she’s in the buggy she would have some protection around her. I don’t think mothers with buggies should be asked to leave the bus. I think there should be sufficient space for buggies and wheel chair users to travel together peacefully. We all want to get from a to b as quickly and safely as possible and one persons journey is no more or less important than another persons.
If you are ever a wheelchair user (and you might be one day) let's see how quick you "get over it".
Stapleton has an attitude problem! 50+ complaints? Has he got nothing better to do? Having worked in this industry I know managers will very quickly get fed up with him and do nothing.
The majority of disabled people just go with the flow and accept what they can and can’t do. You can’t expect to be able to get on every bus first time. There might even be another disable person on it! Is he going to want them to get off so he can get on?
Well said.
Have you come across arch-wheelchair agitator Doug Pauley? If everything else doesn't stop in his presence, you'd better look out...
@@tooleyheadbang4239 Oh bloody hell yes! That arrogant sod deserves all he gets. I’ve seen most of his videos, but you can’t comment on any of them because he has: “comments are disabled for this video” (which is kind of ironic!) on all his videos!
If I’d ever bumped into him before he’d become so notorious I would’ve helped him all I could, unless I was in a mad rush.
He went to Hebden Bridge once on the train, about five years ago now I think, and a taxi was supposed to meet him at Mytholmroyd due to the fact the up platform at Hebden Bridge isn’t step-free, but it took ages to get there and find him. Why didn’t he just get a bus on the main road? Also, and better still, why didn’t he arrange to meet his “friends” at Mytholmroyd in the first place? They could then have gone on to Hebden Bridge together. When he returned why didn’t any of his so-called “friends” wait with him on Hebden Bridge station to make sure he got on the train home? Not the best sort of friends in my opinion!
On another occasion Paulley went to Wrexham to speak at some disabled gathering or whatever, but was massively inconvenienced when the first train he got on in Leeds turned back at Stalybridge when it should’ve gone to Manchester Piccadilly. Now… I wonder why that was? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact Paulley screwed £5K out of sister company FirstBus when a woman with a sleeping baby refused to move for him??? Hmm…!
All these silly discrimination cases are ridiculous. They’re just a childish way of scoring so-called brownie points, but ultimately they’ll back fire because companies will fight back and cause situations to happen like when Paulley’s train terminated short of its destination.
If Paulley, and others, wound their necks in and cut the attitude they’d do much better in my opinion. I don’t really know how they deal with all the stress, most of which is self-inflicted!