Ok, i learned something, and at wardencliff, the tower was removed, but they left all that was underground, and some of the buildings are still there you can go see it if you know how to get there.
Is tne hairin virvuit the one where you grab a hairpin and stiff both ends in the side by side sots in a wall revrpticsl like I did at 3 years old?? O dod it 4 ti!mes before my mamma stopped me :)
You need to talk to Sir Timothy Thrapp with WITTS ministries and invite him on one of your lives. Or maybe you could go on his Wednesday night live show.
I am part of the ministries - our spokesman talks very well. Currently he is open for requests and has dedicated a lot of his time for interviews. We are an offshoot of WITTS comprising a separate affiliate branch in Finland with out specialists and scientists. We are more into the quantum healing, scalar regenerating, rejuvenative tech as he is more into the antigravity tech and polar energies leading to so called free energy generators We have mutual respect and acknowledge each other very well.
6:40 Any capacitance gained is WAY different than the circuit shown. The one shown is not adding inductance to the resonance circuit. Again, there is a reason why Air core was chosen over typical iron core transformers.
@@nathanbunten4299 You are taking iron... and placing it in the core. Aka... iron core. As the magnetic field expands and collapses you are adding inductance to the system.
I'm a bit confused on what the purpose of this video is, is it just on the topic of frequency modification or are you saying the hairpin is a cold energy circuit and your method of using the tesla coil serves the same function? Because if so I don't believe that to the case at all, the hairpin circuit is directly connected to the L2 coil operating on hot energy, and we know that the type of energy that's used to polarize capacitors also determines what kind of energy the capacitors puts out. If you touch the bars without closing the gap the resulting output can be utterly lethal, which is a characteristic of hot energy. What the makes hairpin show its particular effects are: It's a resonant reactive power oscillator, the high frequency reactive oscillations are what allow hair thin wires to power several hundred watt loads without burning up. The power is oscillating in longitudinal mode, that's why it can power resistive single wire loads when connected to any part of the bar, something that is impossible in transverse mode. The hairpin is a tool based on his research into electrostatic thrusts, this was an essential step in his research into the nature of radiant energy and impulse currents, hence the reason for the spark gap, the method of discharging the capacitors (spark gap) is one of the primary purposes of the device. What you're doing with your center rod and what the hairpin circuit does are very different things, sorry to be the bearer of disappointing news. I'd like to see what the hairpin would do if powered by a cold energy oscillator though, no one has done that yet. If you haven't be sure to read his lecture "Experiments with Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Application to Methods of Artificial Illumination- A lecture delivered before the AIEE, May 20, 1891" "To produce such luminous effects, straight electrostatic thrusts are required; these, whatever be their frequency, may disturb the molecular charges and produce light. Since current impulses of the required frequency cannot pass through a conductor of measurable dimensions, we must work with a gas, and then the production of powerful electrostatic effects becomes an imperative necessity." "In operating devices on the above plan I have observed curious phenomena of impedance which are of interest. For instance if a thick copper bar be bent, as indicated in Fig. 32 / 128, and shunted by ordinary incandescent lamps, then, by passing the discharge between the knobs, the lamps may be brought to incandescence although they are short-circuited. When a large induction coil is employed it is easy to obtain nodes on the bar, which are rendered evident by the different degree of brilliancy of the lamps, as shown roughly in Fig. 32 / 128. The nodes are never clearly defined, but they are simply maxima and minima of potentials along the bar. This is probably due to the irregularity of the arc between the knobs. In general when the above-described plan of conversion from high to low tension is used, the behavior of the disruptive discharge may be closely studied. " He goes into the details surrounding the hairpin circuit and what his focus was on at the time. The hairpin is an impulse device made for the purpose of researching the effects of impedance, electrostatic thrusts with the disruptive discharge, and the radiant energy associated with those thrusts.
The hairpin circuit is a cold energy circuit as soon as he used a variable capacitor. When you break the hot with open air the energy changes. You no longer have a direct hot energy circuit. I looked up all the things it does and they match. There is not a regular capacitor used by Tesla. It is like 2 heatsinks. That makes it open air between the 2 plates causing capacitance. The spark gap on the cold side can be added back if you have enough energy. I do not use enough to need it.
@@nathanbunten4299 Have you experimentally verified this? I've seen circuits immersed in cold air conditions before and the energy has never changed into the cold type I've seen from your tesla coil experiments, it also requires that the energy is being pulled through the system rather than pushed to be a true cold energy system, for as long as the energy is being pushed it would have the destructiveness and lethality we're used to, so I don't see why air capacitors would change the energy type in the hairpin from being pushed to pulled. I don't believe the hairpin circuit will become non-lethal when using air capacitors alone if you touch both sides without the short at the top of the bars, I've also seen modern hairpin replications using solid capacitors rather than air types and the observed effects of the device are identical to what Tesla notes in his lecture, so no apparent change there between using solid or air capacitors. If the energy moving through the hairpin is being pushed from a hot input type, and still becomes non-harmful and non-destructive when used with air capacitors then that changes things, I'd very much like to see this verified if possible.
@@nathanbunten4299 Yes I've seen that replication, he is not using air gap capacitors, from his part list: "2x UHV-9A 40kV, 2000pF doorknob capacitor" This is what I was referring to when I said I've seen replications that match what Tesla said, the results of his experiments are because of the resonant high frequency oscillations being longitudinal and reactive, produced from quenched impulse currents that are known to be non harmful, they're not the same pulling and cooling currents produced from your center rod coil, if they were the hairpin would produce a cooling effect like your experiments have shown. If I am to accept the hairpin is a cold energy device I would need to see it produce the same cold phenomenon you've managed to get in your experiments when used with air capacitors, and to my knowledge no one has ever reported that effect.
@@JenkoRun That is fair. Shawn Calderon just used air capacitors in his tesla coil. It would not be hard to get some and test it. Here is what he used 40:00 in th-cam.com/users/live5LiQFaq4vi0?si=gGCba-YfhB_tMytj
your missing the key concept of why tesla used the hairpin circuit to teach people about radiant energy. their is NO transverse electricity on the wire connecting the 2 caps. would be helpful if you showed the original hairpin circuit vs your inside rod interpretation ( which is still clever)
He is missing almost all the key concepts of what makes Teslacoils tesla coils. I don't believe he understands Inductance and barely understands Capacitance. It would explain why models he has created in the past are barely able to make an arc a few cm at best. It's because he has the parts to make it look like Teslacoils but does not have the knowledge to actually make it a Teslacoil with a firm misunderstanding of what is taking place and tuning to resonance frequency. Hell, not sure what it was about which is why I am not laying into this point too hard but I think I heard him say something about the Sparkgap not being needed early in the video which would be beyond absurd really.
@@seditt5146 tesla said, what was happening at the spark gap was an event. from my understanding the spark gap prevents the caps from overcharging and creates the longitudinal pulse by its rapid closing of the circuit. (hairpin)
@@toymaker3474 The spark gap acts as an ultrafast switch. The field strength increases in a capacitor bank to the breakdown voltage of the gap and dumps current in and instant creating a powerful magnetic field that expands and collapses inducing current in near by objects. If we have a tuned secondary, which acts as an oscillator all by itself with inductance, resistance, and capacitance, that also has a resonance frequency which is a harmonic of the primary we get the swing effect where each pulse of the spark gap creates a magnetic field that couples with the secondaries rising and collapsing magnetic field and allows for extremely high voltages to appear at the terminals. For each pulse of the primary the secondary rings multiple pulses dependent on a Q factor and higher the Q the better as it allows you to build on the field of previous pulses. That's the gist of it anyway and while I agree modern transistors are getting up there in switching time allowing for things like what the CC just mentioned above me they are not even close to being on par with what a low impedance spark gap can do with picosecond switching. I aint kept up on it in the last 20 years but I personally doubt if we will ever find a transistor that can mimic the speeds and functionality of a spark gap.
@@nathanbunten4299 Then why dont you understand what you are trying to do is not the circuit you showed? Maybe you do know about them Idk you but what I do know is you seem confused as to the effect placing that bar will have and it's not the circuit shown.
@@nathanbunten4299 Do you realize that ALL Tesla coils have that Air capacitor in their secondary(Thats the top load capacitor and the ground) no matter what? Do you know what the purpose of the hairpin circuit was for and why it was created? To show that the energy at these frequencies is obeying transmission line theory and not behaving like DC where it gets harder to power the further down the line. The Capacitors are again inherent to a Transmission line. You are adding the Shunt of the Hairpin in the center of the coil for no reason, ruining resonance. It was originally there to demonstrate that unlike DC taking the shorted conductive path the speed of propagation is equal to the speed of light and the distance between the transmission line wires, not the entire length. The capacitors in the original circuit were relatively pointless, because they are inherent to Tesla coils secondary no matter what, yet you are messing up the functionality of the coil to move the otherwise "useless" part of it to a place that puts it in the way of proper functionality. Why? What's gained? I am trying to show you what is lost but you can never show what is gained because nothing is gained here. You are just limiting the functionality of the coil massively.
This is why a rod goes down the center of the otc-x1, and the tesla coil is the utron directing the magnetic wave form.
utron is frequency
Nathan you are so quick, well done!
thank you.
@@nathanbunten4299 You are a d/head😂🤣😭
Ok, i learned something, and at wardencliff, the tower was removed, but they left all that was underground, and some of the buildings are still there you can go see it if you know how to get there.
they did leave stuff behind. It is a very big clue
Another great video Nathan
thank you.
What's so good about it???😂😂😂
Is tne hairin virvuit the one where you grab a hairpin and stiff both ends in the side by side sots in a wall revrpticsl like I did at 3 years old?? O dod it 4 ti!mes before my mamma stopped me :)
Cool.
Just awesome
working model ?
yes. I have several of them on my channel.
try multiple rods to reduce RF
You need to talk to Sir Timothy Thrapp with WITTS ministries and invite him on one of your lives. Or maybe you could go on his Wednesday night live show.
I am part of the ministries - our spokesman talks very well. Currently he is open for requests and has dedicated a lot of his time for interviews. We are an offshoot of WITTS comprising a separate affiliate branch in Finland with out specialists and scientists. We are more into the quantum healing, scalar regenerating, rejuvenative tech as he is more into the antigravity tech and polar energies leading to so called free energy generators We have mutual respect and acknowledge each other very well.
This dude abides...
6:40 Any capacitance gained is WAY different than the circuit shown. The one shown is not adding inductance to the resonance circuit. Again, there is a reason why Air core was chosen over typical iron core transformers.
you are missing what I am doing. A 1/4" hollow rod down a 4" coil is not an iron core.
Who said anything about an iron core? Particularly at 6:40?
Explain please.
@@fasted8468 There is no iron core. it is a 1/4" hollow tube of brass. It must be a misunderstanding.
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@@nathanbunten4299 You are taking iron... and placing it in the core. Aka... iron core. As the magnetic field expands and collapses you are adding inductance to the system.
I can't fix my post errors guys my fore tablet hasm't that option lol
I'm a bit confused on what the purpose of this video is, is it just on the topic of frequency modification or are you saying the hairpin is a cold energy circuit and your method of using the tesla coil serves the same function?
Because if so I don't believe that to the case at all, the hairpin circuit is directly connected to the L2 coil operating on hot energy, and we know that the type of energy that's used to polarize capacitors also determines what kind of energy the capacitors puts out. If you touch the bars without closing the gap the resulting output can be utterly lethal, which is a characteristic of hot energy.
What the makes hairpin show its particular effects are:
It's a resonant reactive power oscillator, the high frequency reactive oscillations are what allow hair thin wires to power several hundred watt loads without burning up.
The power is oscillating in longitudinal mode, that's why it can power resistive single wire loads when connected to any part of the bar, something that is impossible in transverse mode.
The hairpin is a tool based on his research into electrostatic thrusts, this was an essential step in his research into the nature of radiant energy and impulse currents, hence the reason for the spark gap, the method of discharging the capacitors (spark gap) is one of the primary purposes of the device.
What you're doing with your center rod and what the hairpin circuit does are very different things, sorry to be the bearer of disappointing news. I'd like to see what the hairpin would do if powered by a cold energy oscillator though, no one has done that yet.
If you haven't be sure to read his lecture "Experiments with Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Application to Methods of Artificial Illumination- A lecture delivered before the AIEE, May 20, 1891"
"To produce such luminous effects, straight electrostatic thrusts are required; these, whatever be their frequency, may disturb the molecular charges and produce light. Since current impulses of the required frequency cannot pass through a conductor of measurable dimensions, we must work with a gas, and then the production of powerful electrostatic effects becomes an imperative necessity."
"In operating devices on the above plan I have observed curious phenomena of impedance which are of interest. For instance if a thick copper bar be bent, as indicated in Fig. 32 / 128, and shunted by ordinary incandescent lamps, then, by passing the discharge between the knobs, the lamps may be brought to incandescence although they are short-circuited. When a large induction coil is employed it is easy to obtain nodes on the bar, which are rendered evident by the different degree of brilliancy of the lamps, as shown roughly in Fig. 32 / 128.
The nodes are never clearly defined, but they are simply maxima and minima of potentials along the bar. This is probably due to the irregularity of the arc between the knobs. In general when the above-described plan of conversion from high to low tension is used, the behavior of the disruptive discharge may be closely studied. "
He goes into the details surrounding the hairpin circuit and what his focus was on at the time. The hairpin is an impulse device made for the purpose of researching the effects of impedance, electrostatic thrusts with the disruptive discharge, and the radiant energy associated with those thrusts.
The hairpin circuit is a cold energy circuit as soon as he used a variable capacitor. When you break the hot with open air the energy changes. You no longer have a direct hot energy circuit. I looked up all the things it does and they match.
There is not a regular capacitor used by Tesla. It is like 2 heatsinks. That makes it open air between the 2 plates causing capacitance.
The spark gap on the cold side can be added back if you have enough energy. I do not use enough to need it.
@@nathanbunten4299 Have you experimentally verified this? I've seen circuits immersed in cold air conditions before and the energy has never changed into the cold type I've seen from your tesla coil experiments, it also requires that the energy is being pulled through the system rather than pushed to be a true cold energy system, for as long as the energy is being pushed it would have the destructiveness and lethality we're used to, so I don't see why air capacitors would change the energy type in the hairpin from being pushed to pulled.
I don't believe the hairpin circuit will become non-lethal when using air capacitors alone if you touch both sides without the short at the top of the bars, I've also seen modern hairpin replications using solid capacitors rather than air types and the observed effects of the device are identical to what Tesla notes in his lecture, so no apparent change there between using solid or air capacitors.
If the energy moving through the hairpin is being pushed from a hot input type, and still becomes non-harmful and non-destructive when used with air capacitors then that changes things, I'd very much like to see this verified if possible.
@@JenkoRun th-cam.com/video/tlx7tDNXYR8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=w4ILPXGBNZwR-dSv
@@nathanbunten4299 Yes I've seen that replication, he is not using air gap capacitors, from his part list:
"2x UHV-9A 40kV, 2000pF doorknob capacitor"
This is what I was referring to when I said I've seen replications that match what Tesla said, the results of his experiments are because of the resonant high frequency oscillations being longitudinal and reactive, produced from quenched impulse currents that are known to be non harmful, they're not the same pulling and cooling currents produced from your center rod coil, if they were the hairpin would produce a cooling effect like your experiments have shown.
If I am to accept the hairpin is a cold energy device I would need to see it produce the same cold phenomenon you've managed to get in your experiments when used with air capacitors, and to my knowledge no one has ever reported that effect.
@@JenkoRun That is fair. Shawn Calderon just used air capacitors in his tesla coil. It would not be hard to get some and test it. Here is what he used 40:00 in th-cam.com/users/live5LiQFaq4vi0?si=gGCba-YfhB_tMytj
your missing the key concept of why tesla used the hairpin circuit to teach people about radiant energy. their is NO transverse electricity on the wire connecting the 2 caps. would be helpful if you showed the original hairpin circuit vs your inside rod interpretation ( which is still clever)
He is missing almost all the key concepts of what makes Teslacoils tesla coils. I don't believe he understands Inductance and barely understands Capacitance. It would explain why models he has created in the past are barely able to make an arc a few cm at best. It's because he has the parts to make it look like Teslacoils but does not have the knowledge to actually make it a Teslacoil with a firm misunderstanding of what is taking place and tuning to resonance frequency. Hell, not sure what it was about which is why I am not laying into this point too hard but I think I heard him say something about the Sparkgap not being needed early in the video which would be beyond absurd really.
@@seditt5146 tesla said, what was happening at the spark gap was an event. from my understanding the spark gap prevents the caps from overcharging and creates the longitudinal pulse by its rapid closing of the circuit. (hairpin)
i get 13" sparks out of a $30 zvs no spark gap and runs on ac.
@nathanbunten4299 You are comparing apples and oranges here.
@@toymaker3474 The spark gap acts as an ultrafast switch. The field strength increases in a capacitor bank to the breakdown voltage of the gap and dumps current in and instant creating a powerful magnetic field that expands and collapses inducing current in near by objects. If we have a tuned secondary, which acts as an oscillator all by itself with inductance, resistance, and capacitance, that also has a resonance frequency which is a harmonic of the primary we get the swing effect where each pulse of the spark gap creates a magnetic field that couples with the secondaries rising and collapsing magnetic field and allows for extremely high voltages to appear at the terminals. For each pulse of the primary the secondary rings multiple pulses dependent on a Q factor and higher the Q the better as it allows you to build on the field of previous pulses. That's the gist of it anyway and while I agree modern transistors are getting up there in switching time allowing for things like what the CC just mentioned above me they are not even close to being on par with what a low impedance spark gap can do with picosecond switching. I aint kept up on it in the last 20 years but I personally doubt if we will ever find a transistor that can mimic the speeds and functionality of a spark gap.
I feel you fail to understand basics about Tesla coils or even why Iron cores were not used in favor of air core.
that is where you are wrong. I know a massive amount about them. I have been showing the results. Not just patents.
@@nathanbunten4299 Then why dont you understand what you are trying to do is not the circuit you showed? Maybe you do know about them Idk you but what I do know is you seem confused as to the effect placing that bar will have and it's not the circuit shown.
@@seditt5146 I am not confused at all. I show the tests.
@@nathanbunten4299 Do you realize that ALL Tesla coils have that Air capacitor in their secondary(Thats the top load capacitor and the ground) no matter what? Do you know what the purpose of the hairpin circuit was for and why it was created? To show that the energy at these frequencies is obeying transmission line theory and not behaving like DC where it gets harder to power the further down the line. The Capacitors are again inherent to a Transmission line. You are adding the Shunt of the Hairpin in the center of the coil for no reason, ruining resonance. It was originally there to demonstrate that unlike DC taking the shorted conductive path the speed of propagation is equal to the speed of light and the distance between the transmission line wires, not the entire length. The capacitors in the original circuit were relatively pointless, because they are inherent to Tesla coils secondary no matter what, yet you are messing up the functionality of the coil to move the otherwise "useless" part of it to a place that puts it in the way of proper functionality. Why? What's gained? I am trying to show you what is lost but you can never show what is gained because nothing is gained here. You are just limiting the functionality of the coil massively.
This guy is d/head