Everything about gizzard shad and threadfin shad
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- Hello everyone as you all know gizzard shad are one of the best flathead catfish baits as well as a top bait for all catfish and one of my favorite baits for catching catfish. So I figured why not show you all from start to finish on the kinds of shad I use, examples of places to catch shad, how to catch shad, and how I am able to keep shad alive in bait tanks. Hope you enjoy and learn something from this video as much as I enjoyed making it. Thanks for watching.
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Great video - So many of us have had to learn this stuff the hard way and you have packaged it all up here nicely!
Thanks Rob and your absolutely right many of hours learning this stuff the hard way. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video, I'm just learning to use a cast net to catch my own bait. This really helped
I knew this Channel would be awesome. this has. become my favorite Channel by far. thanks for sharing the information on keeping the fishing bait alive that is awesome. kind of like an indoor aquarium almost the same type of science. Well done you are putting out very useful information. gotta love it
You're welcome Jim. And your exactly right it's a lot like an indoor aquarium. Thanks for watching
Great video man. Thanks for taking time to help us put 2 and 2 together. I never realized it took so much to keep them alive in summer. I'm in the market for a winter net and will try a larger mesh after watching this video.
Thank you and your welcome. I think you will be very pleased with a larger mesh size net.
Excellent video. Finding fresh bait can make or break your day for sure.
Thank you and you are 100% right
Thanks for the info! I appreciate the time and effort you took to share this!
Your welcome and now that tournament season is done I'll be getting some more videos for you all. Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Thanks for your advice about the Sure Life Foam Off and add salt. I remember, cast net and got tons of baits and put inside my 5 gallon bucket with B15 Marine Metal aeration System Power Bubbles, it started having a bubble bath inside the bucket. So, i kept using a small net handle to get the bubbles out of the bucket and recycling fresh water from the sea to keep the temperature at colder level and clean out the bubbles. I'll give your advice a try the next time i go fishing for baits! Cheers!
Your welcome hopefully it works out for yea. Thanks for watching.
I really enjoyed this video.
You're channel is blowing up!! When I subbed you had like 73 or something crazy low. That's amazing how many u have gotten so fast
Yes sir I have been very blessed and am so very thankful to each and every one of you all that have subscribed it is amazing how things happen.
Thanks for the great tips when going after the tackle busters.
Your welcome and thanks for watching.
Just found your channel.
Love it.
Thank you Brother
Awesome and thank you
the absolute best vid on youtube on shad how to in winter ,, great job!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, subscribed. My whole catfishing world changed when I bought and learned how to use a cast net. Now the bait shop is for ice and drinks only. Lol
Agree 100% on that thanks for watching and subcribing
Thanks for taking the time to film this.
Your welcome Pancho Villa Smith and thank you for watching
good video Chris, it looks like your channel is growing nicely. Congrats
Thank you sir!
Thank you very much for this informative video!
Your welcome Eric glad you enjoyed it and that it's helping!! Thanks for watching
pretty detailed video Thank you
Thanks John and thanks for watching.
awesome videos. keep em coming
Thank you Rich and thanks for watching
Thanks for a great video
Thank you for the support
Great info. Might have to look into a bait tank
Thank you and a good bait tank can be very pricey but worth its weight in gold . Thanks for watching.
Great information, thanks for sharing...I just need to become more consistent with the throw net...
Thank yea! And when it comes to being consistent I will actually go out side and throw the net a few times a week just to stay up on it. Thanks for watching
Good info man. Good bait leads to good fishing. Thanks for sharing.............J
Thank you sir. And your absolutely right good bait is a must. Thanks for watching.
Great video
Great video. Very well done. - just subscribed 👍
Well thank you Chris I appreciate you subscribing. Glad you enjoyed it
It's like I'm there with ya in the video lol love um keep making them very Educational just Bought me a cast net haven't even thrown it ones yet
Better get that thing wet before it dry rots lol! Thanks for watching
@@chrissouders476 I think I'll go practice at the park first lol make a video how to set it up in your hands before you throw it I get confused on the steps and there's some big shad in my local lake and also big channel cat and I know I'll probably get some hmms about this been fishing this lake for 22 years and never used a shad for them iv always went to the boat ramp and Caught blue Gill they work great don't get me wrong but I know I've been missing out not catching shad you definitely got me motivated and inspired it's on now on a mission with the cast net
Yes sir go get them I want to see some pictures!!!
Thanks much for the in depth tutorial!
I'm diggin the rod rack in the front of the boat @1:18.
Got any information on that? d:^)
Chris, what kind of rod holder is that behind you?
Great video man!
Thank you Zach and thank you for watching
great video man!!!
Thank you sir!
I prefer to use a bucket to sort and cull before putting them in the bait tank. The flexible "gardening" buckets like Tractor Supply sells works perfect. After 3 or 4 successful throws, my sorting bucket is full of junk and pretty nasty, but my bait tank water is clear. I always use lake water, salt, Shad Keeper, Foam Off as needed, and frozen bottles of Nestle Pure Life water to keep temps down. (The bottles won't bust and can be frozen over and over) I often catch bait before daylight and fish until dark or later, and I never have a gizzard or threadfin die in my Xtreme Bait Tank.
Hey Kylakerat78 I now use xtreme as well and love them. These are all good tips for guys thanks for sharing.
Good solid information here
Thank you!!!
An old aquarium keeper's trick is to freeze a number of 2 liter plastic bottles and use them like jumbo, reusable, ice cubes. If one wants to just keep river/lake water from getting warmer a single bottle is probably sufficient for 20 gals. If you actually want to chill water it might take several at a time but they last long enough that one can refreeze them quickly enough that only two sets are needed. I use them to take up dead space in my freezer even when I don't need them and they help keep both my freezer and aquarium cool if the power goes out.
Cheers!
That's a good thank you for sharing and thanks for watching as well
Lots of good info here. Thanks. I use a lot of frozen shad, which works great for channels, but we also have flatheads here, and cut frozen shad isn't the best for them.
Your welcome and your right on flatheads like either live bait or very fresh cut bait
I do all my fishing in Kansas lakes where would be some good target areas this fall
In the fall I would look for the bait fish and fish around them.
Was wondering about that vertical rod holders rack system I got a small boat and my rod locker ain't working for me...
That's a vertical rod storage from cabela's. it worked great for me. thanks for watching.
is this greenup boat ramp looks identical
Chris, I have a question about the 3 way swivels W/snap that you use. What size are they & where do you find them?
Hey James that’s a size #1 swivel check the description of some of my videos I’ve got links set up for you all to be able to go straight to them. And the snaps are just cheap snaps from Walmart.
good info
Thanks Todd meskell and thanks for watching
What brand of net is that
great video. ... I live here in Louisville Kentucky in trying to find a good place to catch some winter time shad... any suggestions? ??
Thanks Franklin for watching as far as Louisville goes I've never fished around that area but if you can find a marina or the mouth of small feeder creeks are good places to try.
Here in Illinois we struggle to catch shad in the winter, summer time its pretty easy. ** without a boat**
I catch my shad in the winter up shallow. Thanks for watching
Great video. can you provide me with the company you purchase your rod holder that fit into a track base. Thank SM Rutledge
Chris I fish a lake in NC Piedmont area. The same lake that Dieter fishes. I love gizzard shad, my problems finding them. It’s almost August and would like to start learning how and where shad are in all seasons. Where would you start looking now in a lake? Thanks
The first place I’d look would really depend on if the lake had a thermocline present. If it did I would concentrate On the depths that are above it. And one thing to keep in mind is if you find them deeper in the day time and are having a tough time catching them go back at night. They often times will move up towards more shallow water and won’t be able to see things as well. Hope this helps you out, let me know the outcome please!
Chris Souders thanks for your fast reply and help. I’ve always used the thought of learn what the fish you are chasing are eating. We have tons of white perch, but I think that the oily gizzards are the ticket in summer when the bit is slow. Thanks again
@@patriotcatfishersofamerica7985 I fish the Winston Salem area. Lake Norman has been the most productive for me. Lake hickory does well too.
Hi. I really enjoyed this - and learned a lot too - so thanks. Now, I have a question about your net casting style. It’s just about the coolest action I’ve ever seen with what seems like brilliant, consistent, results. I have ha da look through the comments to see if you’ve done a separate video on how to cast a net, but I can’t find anything. Am I missing it? If you haven’t done one, please do one! I think you’re brilliant at it!
Well thank you Adrian Haywood and no I haven't done one yet sounds like I need to tho! Glad you enjoyed and learned from this video thanks again for watching.
Chris Souders yes please! No chewing lead, no faffing about with throwing stuff over your shoulder or leg (with wet, skanky nets), and no sweat. Just easy throwin’ and cool catchin’! I want to throw a net like you throw a net! Looking forward to learning how. :)
You got it Adrian!!
Hi Chris, I was noticing your reels behind you there...what kind of gear (ie: reels/rods) are your “go to”? I have been using AG 6500C but looking at a Shimano Takota...any advice?
Hey Jawbone those are Abu Garcia alpha mars but unfortunately they don’t make them anymore. So I know use the penn Squals size 20lw. And warrior cat rods.
nice tips I see I need a bigger net thanks
Thank yea and yes a bigger net will help out tremendously. Thanks for watching
Kinda threw me off haha . When you were stating the 3 reasons for using gizzard were 1, they are bigger 2, the bleed better and are more oily 3, they are bigger haha. I had to rewind a bit to make sure I didn't miss something. I had a good laugh at that. Great video by the way, thanks .
Good Stuff !!!!!
Thank you!
Chris, where can I get a rod holder like the one you have? I bought the Ultra Spreader net you have, great net...
That’s a Cabelas rod rack system. You will definitely like it that are tough
Chris do you ever keep the gizzard shad alive for bait or just throw them on ice??
Great video! Any tips on getting scales off tackle? I'm pretty sure shad scales have a thin coat of contact cement that chemically bonds to anything they touch.
Lol no wish I could figure that one out. The worst one I ever had was I come home from fishing and was playing with my daughter and the next day my wife found scales on the little one haha she was not happy about that lol. Thanks for watching
souders catfishing We've got a couple shad scale stories in our house too. Scales are about as tough as glitter to get rid of.
You got that right lol
We here in Pa cant use throw nets with out a permit and even them there is only like six or seven places you can actually use one. Thats if i understood our regs correctly.
Jeff Jackson bummer move to Texas.... you can throw whatever you want
Catfish and Cosmetics lol naw! To hot! Lol
Man those ref are tough up your way.
souders catfishing yeah they are. Thats ok we have an awesome bait shop up here that handles frozen shad in 6-8 pks, frozen skipjack, live shad i think, live blue gills, live creek chubs and other live or frozen bait. He specialize in everything catfish. Most of it is geared for flatheads. We dont have blues this far up i guess in the Ohio River.
Sounds like a good bait shop! I hear you all got some nice flat heads up that way as well.
@ 15:11 Those are some big gizzards! About how deep do you usually find shad in the winter; both Threadfin & Gizzard?
It can depend from day to day. If a big cold front comes in they will go deeper like 20+ ft but on warm days they may be up in 2 ft.
Will be trying the salt and stress coat.
It definitely helps things out good luck and let me know what you think
Can you do “everything about Skipjack”?
New Lowrance hook 7 lake Ray Hubbard Dallas Tx has a power plant I'll be heading there to tomorrow catch some
Good luck buddy thanks for watching.
Scrolled down and found that you bought the multiple rod holder from Cabelas. Cannot find it there and I sure would love to know the brand name of that rod holder. Ron
I actually made the ones I’ve had but got the idea from the one Cabelas use to sell. If you get ahold of Damon at Xtreme Bait Tanks tell him what your wanting and he can probably make you one!!
Great video! What is that cluster of rod holders on the port side of your boat? I need that for striper fishing! Please let me know ASAP
Thanks Josh_Outdoors and that's a Cabelas seat base rod holder that I had an auluminam plate welded on the bottom and bolted to the front deck it works great keeps everything up out of the way. www.cabelas.com/product/CABELAS-DELUXE-QUICK-STOW-ROD-RACK/1644851.uts
Thank you for your response! I subscribed and I wish you the best from Central Kentucky
Would like to know the name and where I can find a rod holder like you have on the boat. Ron Gossett
Those are monster rod holders
How did you make the rod mount for the 8 rod on the bow? Looks neat
Took the design of the one Cabelas and just built it a little heavier duty.
I know this is an older video but would you mind sharing how you have your rods i. That rod holder? Is it homemade? Looking for something similar!! Just found the channel love it !
Hey Garrett that is a home made vertical rod holders but I got the idea from the rod storage that Cabelas sells. Not sure if they have them in stock or not but you can buy them from Cabelas.
Chris Souders awesome thanks for the reply!
good video
Thanks Bob and thanks for watching
great video... 👍💯💯💯
Thank you
And thanks for watching and subcribing
its just the opposite down on the coosa,,, very, very easy to catch them in the summer but nearly impossible in winter,, i just hope i can figure out the secret and also perfect ,, a pancake on large net!
Keep with it and I'm sure you will!
Just watch the one where you and Steve were catching Flatheads and enjoyed it. What reel were you using? Thank you and keep them coming
Hey Truman13 the blue reels are alpha mars which they don't make any more probably one of the best reels I've ever used and the gold reel is a penn squal which is also a great reel. Thanks for watching
thank you
Your welcome
What part of KY are you fishing in? You ever do any trips on the green river?
Hey Daniel I fish a lot around the Portsmouth area down to like maysville in KY but have never been on the green river yet. Thanks for watching.
Nice video bub. I have trouble locating shad in the winter with my only source of motor being a 40lb troll but these tips are sure to help us get on em. Maybe one day I'll run into ya around our River here.
Thanks and I hope they help yea out what river you fish most generally?
I fish the Ohio River from the hanging Rock ramp to right past the point in kenova usually. I live in Ashland though..I'm trying to try new spots outside of my comfort zone up towards Greenup more and into wva that way to find new areas.
I truly believe in always trying something new each time you go out and it will pay off in the end.
I fish that area often in the spring and summer.
Do u leave the shad alive on the hooks🤔
hey buddy have a curious question not living here in South Carolina long with that being said an the water temps don't get that cold where could I get gizzard shad at?? off the boat landings?? an what would be the best times like morning mid day or at night??
Hey Steven I would start by looking around boat ramps along the rocky areas and concrete at night or early morning so they don't see you if the water is clear and normally shad well come closer to the top at night hope that helps
souders catfishing yes that helped alot..what kind of light should I use a bright head lamp or on dem?? and thanks again man
How to throw a cast net. I've made hundreds of throws, sometimes my shoulder or back gives out before I get enough bait. You make it look so effortless and make nice pretty circles to boot. What's you method for throwing the net? Are there certain brand/types of nets that seem to last longer or open better?
Thank you and I’m a huge fan of fitec gs1000 series of nets. And I also have a video showing how I load and throw the net as well
@@chrissouders476 Thanks. Found the videos and have been working on your technique in the back yard. For me, using one of those cheap and light 7"? nets from WallyWorld yields about the same results as the old technique, but the old 8"? Calusa, with 1.5lb/ft weight, well, it greatly reduces the the amount of effort required in throwing that net, plus the net travels further out.
My circles still suk, but the effort in throwing the heavy net is greatly reduced. No dirty lead line in my mouth or draped over my shoulder.
Having not thrown the Calusa in a while (only use it on the boat in deep water while the cheap nets are used in shallow water where the chance of getting snagged is high) the difference in quality of the two nets is immediately apparent. The feel and suppleness, the way the net throws and opens, and especially tangles, wow, night and day improved. The lead and braille lines are always a tangled mess with the cheap net, which is a huge bummer when trying to load and target fish from the bank. Unfortunately, the old Calusa is ageing and will soon need to be replaced, so, thanks for the Fitec recommendation. I will check into their offerings.
Happy fishing. Wish I was.
Great info Chris. I have a couple situational questions that would probably help alot of us who don't have bait tanks. I have a small 20gal live well in my boat, and alot of people using Jon boats etc for fishing don't have any live well, my question is would it be better to keep a cooler of ice and put the fish directly on ice to keep them from rotting over the day and use that for cut bait, then take the rest home and freeze them? I mostly only net threadfins for some reason and they never stay alive in my live well even while it's circulating if it's hot outside. I'm sure I could use some ice to cool it down like you suggest but is it worth the hassle you think over just throwing some fish on ice if your planning to chunk them? Due to my work schedule I sleep during the day and usually get out to either Nolin or the Ohio river around 2PM in the afternoon. Do you still use this same technique for hunting down bait when it's already hot outside in the late afternoon if you plan to fish that evening? Thanks so much, love your channel. I also don't have a side scan sonar (I'm begging the wife for one) My down image and 2D is really not useful in shallow water trying to net shad. I gotta be right on top of them and by that time they are spooked and bolt. Any suggestions for those of us shad netting open water without side scan to detect them or we pretty much gonna have to fork out $400 for a low end side scan sonar before we can do this effectively?
Hey Soggy Bottom River Boys , thanks for the questions and yes if your not going to be able to keep them alive but want to use them as cut bait then the next best thing to do is make a salt ice water salutation that way as soon as you put them in it they get shocked and chilled which makes for much better bait than just on ice. Now once you get them all caught and they have been in it for 15 mins or so you can just drain the water off and your bait is good to go. Now I always recommend keeping it alive if you can but this is a secondary alternative. Now when it comes to catching bait there are some things you can look for on top of the water to help you not have to fork out the money for a new sonar. One of the best tips is catch them at night if you can in the summer shad will move towards the top of the water as the sun goes down and will flip or pop the top of the water which lets you know where they are. Also early morning they will still be flipping and pop now as the day goes on they will move a little deeper but say your seeing them in a back water early or at night odds are they well still be there during the day you may just have to keep throwing the net until you find where they are.
Thanks for asking and I hope that helps you out some.
Man, fantastic info thanks so much!!!!! I will definately try the brine solution technique for keeping my cut bait in good shape as we get into the dog days of Summer this year. Awesome channel, between you and Steve I have no other need to watch any other channels! Great job looking forward to more of your content!
Your welcome buddy and let me know how it works out for yea.
Could you freeze 1 gallons jugs to keep the water cool. Vs using ice & adding harmful contaminants from the ice water.
You could but it doesn't seem to work as well
Hey chad i live in covimgton kentucky and im tryin to locate gizzard shad do u know if there in my ohio or kentucky side of my river
Absolutely this time of year a lot of your marinas will be full of them. Thanks for watching
What boat are you using in this video Mr Chris?
That is a old style pro cat 200 before they moved the consoles forward.
What was that big fish you dipped out your tank and threw over the side
That was a buffalo carp.
Do they live in Canada 🇨🇦?
" 1, their usually bigger. 2, they bleed better. 3, their bigger."😂😂😂
lol everything is better bigger thanks for watching!
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Thank you very much
Do you think Shad out of a lake would put off a different scent then Shad from a river?
Not a 100% sure but it’s possible. But from my experience they work just as well not matter where they come from and are used.
Hi Chris, I dont own a boat and I'm having trouble catching shad from the bank with my cast net, any advice
Keep your eyes 👀 open and I’ll do a video very soon.
@@chrissouders476 thank you
Threadfin? How to fish them? Everything about shad!!! I want to see it.
Chris what fish finder do you use?
I use the lowrance hds 12 gen3 touch and absolutely love them. Would be lost with out them actually.
How do you catch gizzer shad in the winter
Lots of times in the winter months they will group together in back waters or deeper holes near shallow areas. If they are in the shallow back waters you can find them easily by looking for rings on top of the water where they are coming up. If they are in the deeper water its a little tougher. You either have to be able to see them on sonar or just through the net until you find them.
Do you have in suggestions for finding shad in a river that's not very wide? I live in Texas also
Lots of times no matter the size of river the shad will still act the same in general. Back waters, feeder creeks and discharges make good starting areas. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
What kind of rod holder is that in your boat?
Those are monster rod holders
Do I need cut up the shad b4 fishing.
That’s completely up to you and really depends on the size of shad. I use them a lot hole and alive
What part of Kentucky is that?
Northern Ky
Where'd you get the rod holder?
Hey Chris take a look at th-cam.com/video/QRBVZbee_58/w-d-xo.html I left a link in the description for yea to Cabelas. Thanks for watching
What kind of boat do you have in this video?
That’s a SeaArk ProCat 200 before they started moving the consoles forward
Chris Souders Thanks for always answering my questions, brother. I did finally find your video walkthrough on this boat. I hope you do one on your red boat. For some reason tours of boats make really entertaining material to watch. Keep up the cool work!
Ok....question....I have shoulders that are useless..no good at all...cannot throw a net...two questions actually.....froze shad from bait shop....is it worth buying?? Second....is there any lure I can use to catch shad???
Good questions Rick and I'd say your not alone. When it comes to bait shop bait some is good and some is worthless. Where are you located I may know a bait dealer in your area. Or it maybe best for you to use an alterative bait like skipjack or bluegill so you know its fresh.
What kind of pole holder is that and where can I purchase one
The storage one
It’s a self made one but if you get with me via messenger I might be able to get you fixed up.
@@chrissouders476 do you have any close up pictures of that rod holder system you got
Could you PLEASE show a closeup of your rod management system! Looks great!
Yeah get with me on messenger and I’ll send you some pictures of it. Thanks for watching
If you use Sure Life Better Bait can or do you still use salt?
Yea if you use better bait use saltin with it but if you use the sure life shad keeper it already has salt added in so no need to add more. Thanks for watching
Thanks for taking the time to answer Chris. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Your welcome and Merry Christmas to you all as well!
If you keep up with these videos you will have 100,000 subscribers easy by mid 2017
Wow thank you and I sure hope your right that would be amazing!
What was that fish in the beginning you threw back ..
That was a carp I believe! Good bait for summer time 😉
Looked like a buffalo to me.
Looked like a white bass.
Billy Munn if that was a white bass that would have been a world record lol
Tell Gary his name is now Gray
What boat do you have?
The kind that floats.
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Unfortunately, any mesh larger than 3/8" is illegal in Oklahoma.
That's a shame!
Didn't know that 😮
Dr. Shad
I had a gizzard shad jump into my kayak
Now that would be cool!
I think I like shad videos more than catfish videos.
Glad you enjoyed it Chris thanks for watching
Any advice for finding wintertime shad in a river like the miss with tons of current? Most pockets and marinas have ice on them.
Depending on how thick the ice is I have busted it up an ran the shad out from under the ice in to open water to be able to catch them