You are the BEST!!! It works. Thank you. I wish all videos were like this one, short, clear, to the point. It solved problem with 7.62x39 mag i got with my Radical Firearms RF-15. I had failure to feed every 3rd round. I watched your video and tried to push the round slowly with finger out of the mag. When the bottom of the case reached the ridge on the side of the mag, it CLICKED and stucked. It took a lot of force to push the cartridge further. I didn't have right size of pliers like you have, so I took dremel and ground off those 4 bumps. Now the cartridge goes nice and smooth without stucking and the rifle feeds like champ, no problem since then (maybe 30 rounds fired, I would have 8-12 FTF issues before this adjustment). You have like and new subscriber!
Bro! You are the man! So many other videos out there with guys just blabbing away saying they have a fix for this problem, but all they’re doing is just blabbing away! Thanks!
I noticed someone down below saying they don't have this issue with ASC mags, I have 3 ASC mags, 10 rounders, brand new and it does the same thing you are addressing in this video, more so when it has 10 rounds in them and you try to pop them out by hand the first 4 are nearly impossible, the 5th one they start to come out like they should and gets easier and easier the more you take out from the 5th one. That spring tension just presses them up against those ridges so much they don't want to slide out, I have not tried them yet in the AR15 because I'm still waiting on the lower to get shipped. But I know that this is not right and this is a great video with great info, thank you. Wasn't sure what was hanging out the casings, til I saw this video and tried ejecting them by hand and seeing where they hang up and it's right on that first ridge. Awesome!
Kurt, Thank you! Thank you! This video turned 😡 to 🤗. My bullets did the nose dive and failed to feed until I flattened out the ridges on the magazine.
I'm going to Lowe's today. Thanks for this tip, and the appropriate tool. I knew the dimples were the issue before I saw your vid, but couldn't come up with a quick fix. I actually thought about drilling them out, but was afraid of weakening the structure. Your solution is perfect. Thank you! I've got 10 C-Products 10-rounders and I'll be working on them tonight. Using the 7.26x39 round in the AR platform is super-fun and very accurate. One day, someone will come up with the perfect magazine design.
+Kurt Eschman & Everyone having issues: I think I have the ultimate combination for folks who are having feed problems with the AR in 7.62x39. In addition to Kurt's excellent 'crimping' idea for the mags, I picked up a new BCG from Windham Weaponry in 7.62x39. It's particle-inspected and chrome-lined. That, combined with a mil-spec (or preferably higher) grade strong buffer spring does the trick, (for me, at least). As Kurt said, having a strong buffer spring really helps when pushing the bolt forward again, to strip another round. I had ZERO failures yesterday using using 5 ASC 10 round mags, and 8 C-Products 10-round mags. 300 rounds and no failures at all, except that I ran out of ammo LOL. Thanks again for your excellent tip, Kurt. Good luck everyone... this does work, and it's a lot of fun and very accurate using the AR-AK platform. Personally, I love it.
I took a friend out yesterday. we ran a lot of rounds to many to count and all ran fine as well. sat at the bench and pounded steal plaits at 400 yds. it was so much fun watching his expressions and laughing when hitting the steel plait one after the other. my 3} 10 rnd and my 2} 30 rnd were flawless.
+Kurt Eschman That sounds awesome Kurt! Thanks again for your ingenious idea about the crimping, and your insights as to why the failures. I'm sure I'll still have to do some tweaking, but it's sure fun to fire this hard-hitting round through the AR platform.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I sent a rifle back 2 times and got a refund because I thought the gun was the problem at first, and not the XCR mags. I already have the nail nipper you used to take out the dimples so I am doing it right now. I was this close to throwing away the XCR mags but now have new hope.
Thinks for the information. I was not going to get one because of all the problems people say they were having with the feed. But I think I'll invest in a palmetto 7.62 now
They must have changed something in the last 6 years because I've never had any issues with C products. Now ASC for sure those things are junk . D&h make some good ones too but they need to be current 2019 and above production
I had fail to feed issue about every 3rd round. I thought the rifle was the problem. Then I saw this video. How is it possible they make this shi**y magazines and they are the famous, most reliable, go to, magazine manufacturers?? They did not tried them before selling? And how is possible they have great reputation??? That is something beyond comprehension! Issues I had with magazines: •Unknown brand mag. that came with my Radical Firearms: Issue with huge bumps inside that were catching rims of cartridges. (this video solves it) •ASC mag: same as above •Duramag: same as above + front side of the mag was too tall so it was catching neck of cartridge, or in worse case the tip of the bulet just went straight and hit it and stucked. I needed to grind it off. But I didn't try to shoot it yet. Maybe the tip of the bullet will be hitting lower receiver now instead of mag's front wall.
I bought one ASC 10 rnd 7.62x39 mag and I looked at it to make a comparison. They already have that "dimple-less" part near the lips like you have except they didn't do it as far. I have cycled it and feeds the steel case hollow points fine. BUT, if you try to let it feed slowly, it nose dives. It's because with a full mag, the last 3 rounds only have the most tension on the case at the very back due to the tapered case.
AWESOME! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!! I have been looking for a FIX to the ISSUE with the C Product mags and I think it will work with the ASC mags as well because I got both!
Did it work for your ASC magazine because I have feeding issues and I have the ASC 20 round magazines. I get like one FTF every other magazine randomly......Literally the only issue with my gun right now
Damn, just built my ar47 and got the asc and c mag. Both are having this same issue. Guess I’m headed to the Home Depot to get this tool. Thanks for sharing. I see some guys are using dremels also.
If the rounds are getting caught on the front lip of the mag, or are not being stripped off the mag, the solution is to replace the buffer spring for a .308 buffer spring, carbine or rifle length, depending on what rifle you have. The extra strength of the .308 buffer spring will send home those rounds no matter what. You are welcome. God bless you all.
@@A25227 Go with the regular .308 buffer spring, and to reduce short cycle malfunctions, lock back the bolt and leave it locked back for a few weeks, to break in the spring.
Mine is not diving down ward but is rising to much and denting the brass .using s b soft point , if I use fmj it chambers without issues same with hollow point.
6 years ago. I just bought some rwb 762x39 magazines for an AR-15 and they get jammed inside and won't release. Any thoughts on that? Even trying to pull them out is a chore. It's all somewhere where you bend something but I don't want to start destroying these brand new magazines that I can't return unfortunately.
I did this to my 3 XCR mags and noticed instant improvement with up to 6 rounds in them. As soon as I loaded 7 or 8 the spring tension was so tight on the rounds they still fed hard and nose dived into the side of my chamber. Oh well 6 is better than none. Maybe they will loosen up when I use them more and the spring tension loosens a bit. Thanks again.
It is still a little disappointing that only 6 feed without nose diving. I do not know how these mags ever worked with 10 in them on the XCR pistols. I bought 2 of the 28 rounder's pinned to 5 by C Products and they work flawlessly without even touching them. Thanks again for the help with this. It was totally unsafe the way they worked before doing this.
Thats usually all you got to do on the asc mags..i put 3 rounds in..then push them straight out..you will see where you need to file or tweak..all mine run flawlessly.
Matt bowden if you tack a empty casing on a Dowling or pencil and disassemble your magazine. and slide the casing in and out on the left side and the right sir agenst the feed ramps it will tell you where they are catching that is the part on the magazine that neads adjusting. when you have you magazine all to get er all that should holf the bullet in the mad is the spring tension against the feed ramps. when this is accomplished fading smooth. Q. how is your gassing? 7.62x39 on a AR platform are known to be light on gassing.
Mine runs very well..i first used winchester..then ran tula..so far everything functions well , there used to lots of problems..but everything in or on my rifle is ar15..except the barrel and mags..im pretty happy with it.
I have some that do and some that don't they should operate fine. I have. 9mm that I carry and if the mag is full it raters and if I tack 1 out it don't it is a bit annoying.
If the rounds are getting caught on the front lip of the mag, or are not being stripped off the mag, the solution is to replace the buffer spring for a .308 buffer spring, carbine or rifle length, depending on what rifle you have. The extra strength of the .308 buffer spring will send home those rounds no matter what. You are welcome. God bless you all. Apply Molly Grease to the inner mag walls to allow the rounds to move up without getting stuck midway.
You sly old fox.... im going to give it a go... makes sense... i get f.t.f's & most times i can forward assist them into battery & keep going, this is even with a plus25% percent spring & heavier buffer weights... i thought the buffer weights fixed it... but no... buffer weights DID smooth it up alot..
@@DLN-ix6vf on c products mags the bottom plait has a hole in it stick a punch or something in it and slide the bottom towards the ribbed side of the magazine it will take some effort .
or, instead of buying the ak mag (yep those are not AR mags ) just spend the $30 for the correct ar-7.62x 39 magazine and leave the tools with the the ductape and the Bama jersey. puts the .223 to pasture . hands down. wait til you see the new ONE piece 6" scopes hit the market right now and lose the pretty colors and don't forget to hide that flash. sound is our friend, think more as pushing a .308 and you will save time getting this dialed and deadly. Ps compare the marine corps study 0n 16" barrels with even 20" you will be shocked at the lack of 500-750 meter pattern difference. I was. save that $$$
Good fix, but could you please stop mixing up the bullets and the cases, which are not casings, and a shell is not a cartridge. The cartridge is the whole thing; bullet+ case+ primer+ powder. Just to inform those who are just learning.
You are the BEST!!! It works. Thank you. I wish all videos were like this one, short, clear, to the point.
It solved problem with 7.62x39 mag i got with my Radical Firearms RF-15.
I had failure to feed every 3rd round. I watched your video and tried to push the round slowly with finger out of the mag. When the bottom of the case reached the ridge on the side of the mag, it CLICKED and stucked. It took a lot of force to push the cartridge further. I didn't have right size of pliers like you have, so I took dremel and ground off those 4 bumps. Now the cartridge goes nice and smooth without stucking and the rifle feeds like champ, no problem since then (maybe 30 rounds fired, I would have 8-12 FTF issues before this adjustment).
You have like and new subscriber!
Thank you.
Bro! You are the man! So many other videos out there with guys just blabbing away saying they have a fix for this problem, but all they’re doing is just blabbing away! Thanks!
Have fun 👋
I noticed someone down below saying they don't have this issue with ASC mags, I have 3 ASC mags, 10 rounders, brand new and it does the same thing you are addressing in this video, more so when it has 10 rounds in them and you try to pop them out by hand the first 4 are nearly impossible, the 5th one they start to come out like they should and gets easier and easier the more you take out from the 5th one. That spring tension just presses them up against those ridges so much they don't want to slide out, I have not tried them yet in the AR15 because I'm still waiting on the lower to get shipped. But I know that this is not right and this is a great video with great info, thank you. Wasn't sure what was hanging out the casings, til I saw this video and tried ejecting them by hand and seeing where they hang up and it's right on that first ridge. Awesome!
😊
This got my 7.62x39 upper running flawlessly, fixed the problem completely, thanks for this!
Good to hear . Have fun.
Thanks for the tip. It worked for my Radical AR in 7.62X39.
For my too 😊
Kurt,
Thank you! Thank you! This video turned 😡 to 🤗. My bullets did the nose dive and failed to feed until I flattened out the ridges on the magazine.
I'm going to Lowe's today. Thanks for this tip, and the appropriate tool. I knew the dimples were the issue before I saw your vid, but couldn't come up with a quick fix. I actually thought about drilling them out, but was afraid of weakening the structure. Your solution is perfect. Thank you! I've got 10 C-Products 10-rounders and I'll be working on them tonight. Using the 7.26x39 round in the AR platform is super-fun and very accurate. One day, someone will come up with the perfect magazine design.
Montgomery Burns . I'm glad I could help.
+Kurt Eschman & Everyone having issues: I think I have the ultimate combination for folks who are having feed problems with the AR in 7.62x39. In addition to Kurt's excellent 'crimping' idea for the mags, I picked up a new BCG from Windham Weaponry in 7.62x39. It's particle-inspected and chrome-lined. That, combined with a mil-spec (or preferably higher) grade strong buffer spring does the trick, (for me, at least). As Kurt said, having a strong buffer spring really helps when pushing the bolt forward again, to strip another round. I had ZERO failures yesterday using using 5 ASC 10 round mags, and 8 C-Products 10-round mags. 300 rounds and no failures at all, except that I ran out of ammo LOL. Thanks again for your excellent tip, Kurt. Good luck everyone... this does work, and it's a lot of fun and very accurate using the AR-AK platform. Personally, I love it.
I took a friend out yesterday. we ran a lot of rounds to many to count and all ran fine as well. sat at the bench and pounded steal plaits at 400 yds. it was so much fun watching his expressions and laughing when hitting the steel plait one after the other. my 3} 10 rnd and my 2} 30 rnd were flawless.
+Kurt Eschman That sounds awesome Kurt! Thanks again for your ingenious idea about the crimping, and your insights as to why the failures. I'm sure I'll still have to do some tweaking, but it's sure fun to fire this hard-hitting round through the AR platform.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I sent a rifle back 2 times and got a refund because I thought the gun was the problem at first, and not the XCR mags. I already have the nail nipper you used to take out the dimples so I am doing it right now. I was this close to throwing away the XCR mags but now have new hope.
Man your the man! I actually did this mod on a ASC 20 rounder and it worked like a charm. Fed the AR well.
Amir Harris sweet !!
Thinks for the information. I was not going to get one because of all the problems people say they were having with the feed. But I think I'll invest in a palmetto 7.62 now
wow good to hear . thanks. the mods I did works even if you let the slide forward slowly
The case. Super info. Thanks. Could save someone's life.
U can bend the top of the ears of the mag slightly apart and it make the bullet sit more upright instead of leveled
Nice pajamas.
Or golf pants.
superb vid"
superb instruction!"
thaks friend "
They must have changed something in the last 6 years because I've never had any issues with C products. Now ASC for sure those things are junk . D&h make some good ones too but they need to be current 2019 and above production
Very simple and ingenious solution! Very well done. I feel kind of silly for thinking of that myself, to be honest. Thanks for the video!
good to know,much appreciated there bud
Absolutely ridiculous they dimpled all the way to the feed causing issues like this
I had fail to feed issue about every 3rd round. I thought the rifle was the problem. Then I saw this video. How is it possible they make this shi**y magazines and they are the famous, most reliable, go to, magazine manufacturers?? They did not tried them before selling? And how is possible they have great reputation??? That is something beyond comprehension!
Issues I had with magazines:
•Unknown brand mag. that came with my Radical Firearms: Issue with huge bumps inside that were catching rims of cartridges. (this video solves it)
•ASC mag: same as above
•Duramag: same as above + front side of the mag was too tall so it was catching neck of cartridge, or in worse case the tip of the bulet just went straight and hit it and stucked. I needed to grind it off. But I didn't try to shoot it yet. Maybe the tip of the bullet will be hitting lower receiver now instead of mag's front wall.
Thank you for sharing. Awesome!
I bought one ASC 10 rnd 7.62x39 mag and I looked at it to make a comparison. They already have that "dimple-less" part near the lips like you have except they didn't do it as far. I have cycled it and feeds the steel case hollow points fine. BUT, if you try to let it feed slowly, it nose dives. It's because with a full mag, the last 3 rounds only have the most tension on the case at the very back due to the tapered case.
denrizza swap the spring for a regular AK spring. I did the above and installed a AK spring which I a little longer. Works like a champ.
AWESOME! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!!
I have been looking for a FIX to the ISSUE with the C Product mags and I think it will work with the ASC mags as well because I got both!
Did it work for your ASC magazine because I have feeding issues and I have the ASC 20 round magazines. I get like one FTF every other magazine randomly......Literally the only issue with my gun right now
Damn, just built my ar47 and got the asc and c mag. Both are having this same issue. Guess I’m headed to the Home Depot to get this tool. Thanks for sharing. I see some guys are using dremels also.
Noticed that problem on my asc 10 rounders
If the rounds are getting caught on the front lip of the mag, or are not being stripped off the mag, the solution is to replace the buffer spring for a .308 buffer spring, carbine or rifle length, depending on what rifle you have.
The extra strength of the .308 buffer spring will send home those rounds no matter what. You are welcome. God bless you all.
tried that, specifically red sprinco spring which is 25% more force and the gun just won't cycle fully. Not enough gas pressure to compress the spring
@@A25227 Go with the regular .308 buffer spring, and to reduce short cycle malfunctions, lock back the bolt and leave it locked back for a few weeks, to break in the spring.
I wonder if radiusing or chamfering the edges of the banding tool would compress the indents more smoothly.
Sounds like this is the first guy to figure out the problem EXCEPT why doesn't 556 have the same trouble?
no steel in 556 casings
Thank you.
AYY! THANK YOU
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Good stuff ..... simple !
Mine is not diving down ward but is rising to much and denting the brass .using s b soft point , if I use fmj it chambers without issues same with hollow point.
Гениально
Спасибо, друг :)
6 years ago. I just bought some rwb 762x39 magazines for an AR-15 and they get jammed inside and won't release. Any thoughts on that? Even trying to pull them out is a chore. It's all somewhere where you bend something but I don't want to start destroying these brand new magazines that I can't return unfortunately.
Not without having my hands on them . I am unfamiliar with them
I did this to my 3 XCR mags and noticed instant improvement with up to 6 rounds in them. As soon as I loaded 7 or 8 the spring tension was so tight on the rounds they still fed hard and nose dived into the side of my chamber. Oh well 6 is better than none. Maybe they will loosen up when I use them more and the spring tension loosens a bit. Thanks again.
Kevin Andrews good to know
It is still a little disappointing that only 6 feed without nose diving. I do not know how these mags ever worked with 10 in them on the XCR pistols. I bought 2 of the 28 rounder's pinned to 5 by C Products and they work flawlessly without even touching them. Thanks again for the help with this. It was totally unsafe the way they worked before doing this.
Exactly why I buy and use ASC mags with no issues ever.
thank you
Abby Norml your welcom
Will try !!!
let me guess, the only thumbs down on the vid. was the guy that told you to file down the front of the mag..lol
Matt bowden I listened to him to I just bought the crimps . I'm down the last mod tip on this 7.62x39 Build.
Thats usually all you got to do on the asc mags..i put 3 rounds in..then push them straight out..you will see where you need to file or tweak..all mine run flawlessly.
Matt bowden if you tack a empty casing on a Dowling or pencil and disassemble your magazine. and slide the casing in and out on the left side and the right sir agenst the feed ramps it will tell you where they are catching that is the part on the magazine that neads adjusting. when you have you magazine all to get er all that should holf the bullet in the mad is the spring tension against the feed ramps. when this is accomplished fading smooth.
Q. how is your gassing? 7.62x39 on a AR platform are known to be light on gassing.
Mine runs very well..i first used winchester..then ran tula..so far everything functions well , there used to lots of problems..but everything in or on my rifle is ar15..except the barrel and mags..im pretty happy with it.
Matt bowden .mine as well it eats everything.
Mines rattle when the mag is fully loaded or half way it will rattle but will not when empty
I have some that do and some that don't they should operate fine. I have. 9mm that I carry and if the mag is full it raters and if I tack 1 out it don't it is a bit annoying.
@@keschman2384 ok I appreciate it man cause I was worried it’s the first time the 762x39 ar mag did that
@Joshua Persaud have fun with it
im about to just drill out that damn notch
I feel for you . It was frustrating
If the rounds are getting caught on the front lip of the mag, or are not being stripped off the mag, the solution is to replace the buffer spring for a .308 buffer spring, carbine or rifle length, depending on what rifle you have.
The extra strength of the .308 buffer spring will send home those rounds no matter what. You are welcome. God bless you all.
Apply Molly Grease to the inner mag walls to allow the rounds to move up without getting stuck midway.
You sly old fox.... im going to give it a go... makes sense... i get f.t.f's & most times i can forward assist them into battery & keep going, this is even with a plus25% percent spring & heavier buffer weights... i thought the buffer weights fixed it... but no... buffer weights DID smooth it up alot..
how come no-one shows us how to remove that bottom plate ?
Did you figure it out
@@keschman2384 no not at all
@@DLN-ix6vf on c products mags the bottom plait has a hole in it stick a punch or something in it and slide the bottom towards the ribbed side of the magazine it will take some effort .
@@keschman2384 thanks !
or, instead of buying the ak mag (yep those are not AR mags ) just spend the $30 for the correct ar-7.62x 39 magazine and leave the tools with the the ductape and the Bama jersey. puts the .223 to pasture . hands down. wait til you see the new ONE piece 6" scopes hit the market right now and lose the pretty colors and don't forget to hide that flash. sound is our friend, think more as pushing a .308 and you will save time getting this dialed and deadly. Ps compare the marine corps study 0n 16" barrels with even 20" you will be shocked at the lack of 500-750 meter pattern difference. I was. save that $$$
huh?
Good fix, but could you please stop mixing up the bullets and the cases, which are not casings, and a shell is not a cartridge. The cartridge is the whole thing; bullet+ case+ primer+ powder. Just to inform those who are just learning.
Buttercup. Life is hard huh?
Man up.
Stop doing yoga.
Let the hair grow on your testicles.
You a Man, aint ya?