How to Balance Ambient Light and Flash? | Ask David Bergman

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  • @uberdonkey9721
    @uberdonkey9721 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Understanding that the shutterspeed does not affect exposure with flash (because flash speed the same) is a really vital bit of information I didn't know..many thanks

    • @IlyaBlay
      @IlyaBlay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too - That was a lightbulb moment!

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was one of the most useful videos in all of the flash photography tutorials.

  • @AndresHernandez-fd1hi
    @AndresHernandez-fd1hi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Follow these steps and you’ll love flash photography:
    1-Don’t try to adjust many settings in the same time.
    2- Understand the basics of the triangle exposure (Aperture, shutter speed and ISO) within M mode (Manual mode).
    3- When dealing with flash and additional light sources, start by adjusting the ambient light through the “basics of triangle exposure” in your camera AND THEN deal with external lights settings.
    My recommendation: In my opinion, it is mandatory to understand the triangle of exposure in order to move into flash photography. You can easily understand it by shooting so many scenarios in different ways so you can understand how your settings would influence key elements like dept of field, subject freezing and low light shootings.
    Good luck in the field!

    • @chrispoulsen_
      @chrispoulsen_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great info. Thanks. I just wonder why some photographers say when shooting with flash in a studio that everything has to be dark. Totally dark and then it’s only the flash that will light up the face for the portrait but that’s maybe wrong?

    • @oxxxeee
      @oxxxeee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fug Manual mode unless in studio for portraits and product table-top. You paid alot for all of that light measuring computer power in your camera; use it.

  • @brad_in_yyc
    @brad_in_yyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great explanation David! Can't wait to see your answer when someone asks about high speed sync later!

  • @Vipuljadav-ql4vb
    @Vipuljadav-ql4vb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very very nice and informative video sir

  • @marcvloeberghs881
    @marcvloeberghs881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks David, some subjects can't be repeated or put back into memory too often.

  • @biswajitbhattacharya7558
    @biswajitbhattacharya7558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent

  • @TJackSurvival
    @TJackSurvival ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super valuable thank you

  • @BrianHallmond
    @BrianHallmond ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this right after watching Adorama TVs video called "How to Use The Exposure Diamond to Balance Flash and Ambient Light | Mark Wallace"
    If you're struggling or wanting to understand this better. I strongly suggest you watch both videos! The Diamond thing finally made everything click and this video by David is truly the cherry in on the cake. Thank you!

  • @wjgraham63
    @wjgraham63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you, thank you! Greatly appreciated! Showing how Shutter Speed, Aperture and flash power affects the image was so very helpful. Doing that presentation helped me gain a better understanding the effects of using light to achieve the desired affects. Visual is how I learn and this was a very helpful video. Go out and practice!

  • @anthonygreaves4998
    @anthonygreaves4998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always David bringing us great tutorials.
    Thank you for giving us these great tips

  • @AffordablePhotography
    @AffordablePhotography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    David, this is the best photography video I've ever seen on TH-cam!!!!!! Can't wait to try out the principles you discussed.

  • @klaceycastle
    @klaceycastle ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Thank you.

  • @ivorlyall4160
    @ivorlyall4160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Explained beautiful. Very good video

  • @rochiellebevans1783
    @rochiellebevans1783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an amazing explanation. You are gifted. Thank you.

  • @susieczellar4580
    @susieczellar4580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, brief but to the point, explanation & demonstration! Thank you. I look forward to flash sync explanation & demonstration.

  • @warrengh5647
    @warrengh5647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think I got all that ? Thank you David.

  • @sastrydasigi7010
    @sastrydasigi7010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, clear and comprehensive instructions. Thanks, David!

  • @leeandreab
    @leeandreab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for the bit at the end!! I couldn’t figure out why I was having such a hard time balancing flash with ambient when I wanted a bright background. It’s hard to find tips for when you don’t want a moody image, but ONLY want the ofc for fill. This explains a lot.

  • @annarakannan6620
    @annarakannan6620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliantly done. Absolutely the best on the topic.

  • @photonsonpixels
    @photonsonpixels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good, David. Thank you.

  • @DarkHorseCom
    @DarkHorseCom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like this video. Thanks David! This information should be in everyone's wheelhouse. And remember folks... to get it down you have to practice. Get that workflow down... be proficient.

  • @prescribedtube
    @prescribedtube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely. Had to come back and watch this video after a few months because of the great info. Continue the great work sir.

  • @ericosei8612
    @ericosei8612 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips. Thanks a lot, David.

  • @promokator
    @promokator ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent lesson! Thank you.

  • @ppbarman1
    @ppbarman1 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make it so easy to understand!! Thank you.

  • @abdullahalabdally1902
    @abdullahalabdally1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way you explained it was very simple and informative that I enjoyed it and I had to watch it couple times ... Thank you

  • @dantee8136
    @dantee8136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David, You are brilliant!!!

  • @StellaandPeteyBulldogs
    @StellaandPeteyBulldogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a great video. Thank you so much for explaining this. I’m trying to do outdoor photography with my bulldogs Stella and Petey, and this is going to help so much. I used to use ttl, but I can see now that manual is the way to go on the flash for more consistent results.

  • @tomd9275
    @tomd9275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David, you are very good at presenting information.
    I.think part of it is that you put your personality into it.
    I personally appreciate your cadence and pace.
    For those that wish to accelerate your delivery I would suggest reading it , along with keeping in mind that it was a “No Cost” primer.
    Keep up the enthusiastic presentations. Thanks , Tom

  • @fowlkeskm
    @fowlkeskm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks David! Great vid and explanation.

  • @andrebarroso72
    @andrebarroso72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, David. I love your videos

  • @MiguelAngel1897es
    @MiguelAngel1897es 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are amazing Dave!!

  • @d.l.mcluvin8067
    @d.l.mcluvin8067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your instruction. Thank you!

  • @JoshyDaMan08
    @JoshyDaMan08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanation 👍🏼 📸

  • @tedebaer1
    @tedebaer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @withimmtabs
    @withimmtabs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent video as usual..

  • @andyallard5990
    @andyallard5990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as always I just love the fact you always got a Cheshire cat grin on your face

  • @photo-video-emotions
    @photo-video-emotions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank yo very much. it was a good declaration!

  • @indrajitadvani3742
    @indrajitadvani3742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you David. Nobody explains photography concepts as well, as eruditely, as succinctly, as you.

  • @LuisMcote5
    @LuisMcote5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all day long i was thinking about this subject... thanks Adorama y David! :D

  • @christianhotter
    @christianhotter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info!

  • @iSchneggs
    @iSchneggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NICE!! One other idea to keep a flash from overheating: the DISTANCE between the flash and your subject can become closer if needed. Flash power gains a power of two of the distance between subject and flash. Conversely, a ton of flash power dissipates when a flash is too far back. Of course a closer light source could be the cause of harsh light, but with a modifier, this should not be a problem. Regardless, great topic!!

  • @avibongo
    @avibongo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tutorial. Always enjoy your videos- you are really good at what you do.

  • @burrellsmithphotography3993
    @burrellsmithphotography3993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Job..

  • @manoharmgr8235
    @manoharmgr8235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful video , I learned lot from it, looking forward more videos like this keep it up good work, R.manohar , india,chennai

  • @waky123
    @waky123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for explanation

  • @kathynassa9974
    @kathynassa9974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous explanation! I expose the ambient background light first....then flash for the subject only.

  • @mewetedienu8973
    @mewetedienu8973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2nd one here. Thank you so much for the tips.

  • @thesolid9091
    @thesolid9091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i liked your studio lighting

  • @Fexone718
    @Fexone718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ty ty ty

  • @BrentODell
    @BrentODell ปีที่แล้ว

    When David says 'you can't put strobes through the whole city... it would be REALLY cool if you could....' the look in his eyes tells me he's imagining what it might look like :)

  • @Theturbotaste
    @Theturbotaste 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @StefanBlurr
    @StefanBlurr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    OMG, my mind was blown when I realized the shutter speed won't affect the subject while using flash. I totally forgot how the flash actually works

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤯

    • @geru2000
      @geru2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I use flash quite a bit outside for the reasons you cited. I love the control and the results I get. I shoot both manual flash and TTL if I’m running and gunning at an event like a family BBQ or birthday. I practiced on my wife and Clara the head for months, that’s how long it took me to wrap my very old brain around the concepts you discussed in the video, what can I say I’m a slow learner🤓. Anyway I really enjoy your series you put out a lot of very good info and you make it easy to understand. Thank you and thanks to Adorama as well. Stay safe!

  • @piston_77
    @piston_77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one thing i dont understand is, the shutter speed controls ambient light, but the subject is also affected by that ambient light, so the shutter speed does affect how the flash contributes to the exposure. tested myself.

  • @felixrodriguez4263
    @felixrodriguez4263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great way to explain how to balance the flash with the available light on the subject to get the affect one wants for that subject. Adjusting to the light on the subject at the time of day and weather. Would like you to cover the TTL subject somewhere down the line David

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Check this for my take on TTL: th-cam.com/video/jExL2NFhqoc/w-d-xo.html

  • @smalltalk.productions9977
    @smalltalk.productions9977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i am afraid of flash. i understand the concept. i have watched many of the wonderful adorama vids (thank you david and daniel!). i just need to experiment more. that is indeed my 2021 photographic challenge. thank you for the effort and the sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. stay well. thumbs up.

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It won’t bite! Just go out and experiment.

    • @thehumanityoflife6460
      @thehumanityoflife6460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Practice makes perfect. Remember that you don't have to wait for the film to get processed to see your results, because this is the DIGITAL AGE! Ah, the technology will & does spoil us!

  • @loridavis9649
    @loridavis9649 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg! I Love you!

  • @kurtozan251
    @kurtozan251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid BERGMAN

  • @lise-annedore8935
    @lise-annedore8935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi David, GREAT TEACHING. Are both the camera and flash set to manual? Sorry if I missed that.Thank you 🙂.

  • @PIXELvoiz
    @PIXELvoiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great informative! I have an upcoming outdoor birthday party at night. I wonder how to use my on camera flash. may be if you guys can create on camera flash on out door event tutorial will be helpful :) Thanks!

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The principals are the same. Underexpose the background and add in flash to fill the foreground.

  • @JuanLopezmusica
    @JuanLopezmusica 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make a video how to balance flash in a reception?

  • @aljo.antony
    @aljo.antony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, it's the exposure diamond.

  • @shanec4441
    @shanec4441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good instruction. Can you add another instruction video on setting white balance with multiple light sources like ambient light and strobe when outdoor? Is this normally done by doing a white balance check

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Outdoors is easy because flash is daylight balanced just like, well, daylight. So set your camera on daylight and you should be pretty close. It's trickier with artificial light sources indoors and I recently did a video about using gels to balance them out - th-cam.com/video/DbZziwciJeY/w-d-xo.html

  • @b991228
    @b991228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about using an umbrella to block the sun on the subject then relight the subject with a flash attached to the modifier? The direction and intensity of the ambient and artificial light will be in correct balanced.

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup that works if you’re lucky enough to have the sunlight coming in at the same angle you wish you light your subject. Otherwise, you’ll need something to block the sun separate from your modifier.

  • @michaelreynolds6543
    @michaelreynolds6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My workflow consists of; choosing a low ISO for quality 100-800 (Canon 6D) I then decide on the aperture I want to use, anything from wide open up to F8 depending on the lens, I then meter past the subject onto the background and I set that to how bright or how dark i want using shutter speed (assuming its on HSS)
    take a test shot to check, its then a matter of controlling the amount of flash hitting the subject, this can be done in two different ways;
    A Adjust the flash power
    B Regulate the distance from the subject to flash (physically moving the stand to the required distance to produce the desired effect)
    a combination of both will get you where you eventually need to be for the exposure you require.

  • @sutv6754
    @sutv6754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did tests over and over and I can't change the back ground light with shutter speed. Going to from 60 to 250 the same ground over and over in my test so something wrong and I'll figure it out. Also I wonder why of the hours and hours of tutorials I've watched no one mentions that you cannot see the changes on your screen in real time. You have to take the picture and then see what adjustments to make... I think. At this point none of this makes sense and I don't understand why you or not one for that matter would fail to mention this about changes not being visible. I'm using a GH5 with constant preview one. Thanks David. Great lesson either way. I know it's me. So all good.

  • @gcanarpander1637
    @gcanarpander1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello David, thank you for another very good explanation and the demo, seeing is very helpful to me ! Always looking forward to your segments . It took me a while perusing various videos and sites from other equally good contributors to finally get it clear in my head . Not using it very often (I’m an enthusiast of sort:) ) it was a good refresher.
    Similarly what always confuses me and what my question relates to , is , how and where do you get a meter reading of the background with the subject I front of you without automatically remeasure as you take the shot? Do you do a meter and recompose somehow ? I usually use back button focusing for portrait and similar more static shots, so I assume the metering starts when I push the release and my focus can be done after (or before) . Using a Canon 6d mark ii . Hoping you have some prior content with a good explain or a short answer here . Thank you again for all the great content your producing .
    G.

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! And for your question, if your exposure setting is on manual, just guess to start then adjust as necessary. For a portrait outside, you’d probably want a low ISO and wide aperture. Lock those in and guess your shutter speed. Shoot a test frame and look at it. If it’s too bright, speed up your shutter. Too dark? Slow it down. When it looks right, you’ve got all three settings and you can just shoot away. Hope that helps.

    • @gcanarpander1637
      @gcanarpander1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidBergmanPhoto Thank you David. So no need to consider metering mode or what to meter on ? I usually use single point for portraits to be able to meter off the face / skin. Metering there some times get the back way too dark or way to bright depending on time of day and where the light is coming from. So are you suggesting to still meter on say face and but in essence just ignore and go with what ends up looking right ? That is in manual, and in AV fiddle with the exposure compensation to arrive at the same “what looks right “ ? I had figured maybe meter the background some how lock it and then light the subject with the flash ? This is what’s tripping me up and confusing me.

  • @chiefgrowler
    @chiefgrowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Hi, is that just a regular maniquin head? The eyes look good and I'm wondering if AF will pick up on a flat version of the eye? Cheers, Ivan

  • @YannickKoffi-tl7cd
    @YannickKoffi-tl7cd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you shoot aperture priority and manual flash?

  • @SusanneGeert
    @SusanneGeert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a helpful video! I would love to know how to balance ambient and flash light for an indoor photoshoot showing both interior and persons (for a commercial photoshoot for a kids furniture company)? The house has a lot of bright windows.

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Indoors is exactly the same. Get your ambient (room) exposure set first. You might need to push your ISO up to have a good exposure. Try to keep some ambient off your foreground and then add in flash to taste.

    • @SusanneGeert
      @SusanneGeert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidBergmanPhoto Thank you. Can I ask what you mean when you say "Try to keep some ambient off your foreground"? How would you prioritise your settings for a scene like explained below:

  • @Krusty-
    @Krusty- ปีที่แล้ว

    i always shoot at HSS.. is there any way to know at what shutter speed it starts working? or it only works at high shutter speeds above 200 i was told??

  • @phynx2006
    @phynx2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍🤗

  • @sutv6754
    @sutv6754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent lesson David. Here is my question. For 18 months now I use the GH5. I love it but do plan on getting a Canon full frame down the road, but for now it's all about my GH5. I am studying and getting into Flash Photography and about to buy a strobe. After watching this video I'm not sure what to get. I was going to get a Godox TT685O for Panasonic. They do make a manual one in the same model. What should I get? The one for Panasonic or a manual one? Would getting the manual version be good with the GH5 and then I can use it with future cameras? I expect I'll be with my GH5 until I become a proficient/ better photographer, maybe in another year I'll consider something bigger. Please advise if you would be willing to help with this. Are the pros to having the Panasonic with the TTL good and can I use the manual one with all cameras?

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you can afford the bells and whistles (TTL), I'd get that since it's nice to have the option if/when you need it. But stay on manual when you're learning! :)

  • @Isaypreach
    @Isaypreach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about using flashing indoors i.e a studio or home

  • @davidnelson5100
    @davidnelson5100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I'm at full flash power and I raise my shutter speed two stops and then open my lens up two stops, don't I arrive at the same place as before I started adjusting shutter and aperture?

  • @grussem
    @grussem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all your videos, keep up the great work! But.....that mannequin had is creepy!

  • @paulsmith5511
    @paulsmith5511 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a new metz flash confused perhaps you can help...enjoy your videos.. in ETTL mode if i dial up flash compensation say +1 the flash tells me the distance the flash is good at but the distance it states actually goes down ...I would think it would go up??? more power more distance..? what am I missing? thank you Paul

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flash compensation isn't necessarily the same thing as power. In TTL, you're just telling that flash to meter the scene automatically and put out what it thinks is the correct amount of light for the particular image when you take it. If you go +1, then you're telling it to put out one extra stop of light above what it thinks the "correct" exposure is. I haven't used a Metz in years, so am not sure how that distance scale works. But it's really not relevant to changing the flash exposure compensation in TTL mode because the power can change frame-to-frame based on what the camera is seeing "though the lens" (TTL). If you switch to full manual on the flash, you can set the exact power. Then it should work how you expect, with higher power equalling more distance.

    • @paulsmith5511
      @paulsmith5511 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidBergmanPhoto thank you

  • @oxxxeee
    @oxxxeee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Real world experience: For outdoor wedding/family run-n-gun shoots - Min SS 1/250. f/as desired for DoF. Auto ISO. Aperture Mode. Lighting - Profoto B10X and Profoto Connect Pro [trust me, avoid China crap if you are a pro]. I bring assistant to move light stand with strobe - for OCF. Read about The Inverse-Square Law of Light to get a feel for distance to subject and practice. No modifiers. Shoot subject with sunlight NOT on face or just slight wrap. Take a test shot and check in EVF -- adjust if necessary. Continuous autofocus with eye detect. Using SONY a7rv with Tamron 35-150mm. Sweet setup. 95% of shots come out perfect. Have fun!

  • @Triplebuc50
    @Triplebuc50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info, but way to Quick or Fast, Slow it down, I personally need Step by Step instructions.
    1. How to Controlling Ambient Light with my Camera.
    2. How to Control the Flash power to get a nice Balanced Portrait.
    3. For Outdoor location, best & Easy way to Diffuse the Light and make it Soft.

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As for talking speed, you can slow down the TH-cam playback. I have to find a balance since it's a large cross-section of photographers watching. And specific instructions, like which button to press, don't work on TH-cam because everyone is using different types of gear. I do offer one-on-one consultations and can walk your through your exact setup to get the result you want. More info and sign up here: www.askdavidbergman.com/1on1/

  • @natestain7103
    @natestain7103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like you need to understand HSS to to this effectively

  • @scottfineshriber5051
    @scottfineshriber5051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful information. I wish it didn’t take almost four minutes to get to it.

    • @DavidBergmanPhoto
      @DavidBergmanPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always try to give context and there are chapter markers in the description so you can skip if you like. :)

  • @ifeanyi_maduka
    @ifeanyi_maduka ปีที่แล้ว

    ISO 1250 sounds almost like a sin for portrait work.

  • @Isaypreach
    @Isaypreach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny thing is i got that same mannequin lol

  • @jacquelinejackson5191
    @jacquelinejackson5191 ปีที่แล้ว

    too complicated

  • @kathynellis981
    @kathynellis981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

  • @pattymattes7124
    @pattymattes7124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!