@@Shin_Akumi WotC = Wizards of the Coast (the makers of Magic the Gathering), MSRP = Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price... WotC is displaying who they really are with this set and forgetting to control their insatiable greed. They are creating "collectibles" while throwing a middle finger at the fans that have supported them since the beginning. Essentially a woke move that will likely alienate many of their long-time fans (such as myself).
@@jchinckley thankyou, im a casual fan of magic, played in high school almost 20 years ago, and bought some games on the xbox 1, but never understood it properly, at least yugioh has an anime to set the scene, magic always felt like, ur older brothers toys u couldn't touch but admire lol, but thanks again buddy 🤙🏽
@@Shin_Akumi wizzards of the coast and manufacturer's suggested retail price, don't worry, i had to google it out bc americans kids use shortcuts just to show off
I can't believe the reach this has. As a magic fan and collector my whole life, it's amazing to see what we've been complaining about for the past 3 years finally being heard.
@@TheHandHistoryVault And for Magic, it's being covered and pointed out while there is still time to fix it and change course. So there is still hope for the community at least.
Instants and interrupts were two different things, interrupts given priority. Then the stack system was tweaked a bit, and interrupts were removed and either made into "mana sources" or instants. But yeah, definitely only something us old-timers remember
Interrupts are basically the higher spell speeds in yu-gi-oh, traps and quick effects are spell speed 2, meaning they can interrupt the activation of normal spells and effects and each other, and counter traps and hand traps are spell speed 3, they can interrupt spell speed 2 cards, and can only be interrupted by other spell speed 3 cards. Honorable mention goes to super poly and other completely uninterrupterable effects, basically spell speed 4.
Post Malone played with The Professor and two other people commander. Post Malone is big on magic, he bought The One Ring OG for like a million dollars and is collecting as well. They had great games as Post Malone is a very fun dude too.
idk he is ok. But he has an ego, he spams woke shit like trans charity lmao, and his mentra "buy singles" is misguided in its core. His opinions on MTG are nothing ground breaking, it is good he has them as he has large platform, just that they are logical if you look at the trajectory of the game.
The look on your face when the price was announced is the perfect encapsulation of the community's feelings about this product: disgust, disappointment, disbelief.
I'm depressed that Asmongold is the only other person I know of who's called these paper NFTs, because that's exactly what they are, and that's the audience that wants this product.
If I was to buy an NFT, I'd at least know how many are floating around. I'd have the information to know the scarcity/rarity of the product. Wizards doesn't make any of that information public. Its worse than NFT's IMO.
Seeing the Prof on Asmongold is so surreal. I've been a fan of him since like the start of Covid. He got me big into Commander after not playing magic since like Gatecrash. Couldn't be more happy with this collab!
The transition from elation that they were making this to abject horror when the price was released was amazing. He looked so dejected when the price was announced.
Well the moment I learned he plays a mill deck I just thought: what a degeneret. But after my 2nd thought, yeah it fits. When if not asmon playing a deck totally denying the enemy of playing the game and having fun. Still love asmon.
He prolly bought that binder off ebay like lastyear. I dont remember asmongold talking about magic cards, infact i did once and he didnt really recall shit about it, now hes claiming to have have 10 grand of cards but shows us a swords and plowshares obviously from revised not unlimited. That cards like, worth nothing lol, even in unlimited its like a 40 doller card. any real head who plays magic, well legacy magic, no new garbage, owns full sets of revised dual lands, i own a set of bayous, tropical islands, badlands, underground seas, i have over a set in each varient, back in 2005, revised dual lands were 10-15 a pop allday, maybe 20 for a absolute perfect one, even in like 2011-2012, dual lands were 50 a pop, now its like 2 grand for a playset, thats nuts.
@@italianspiderman5012 I mean just watch the whole video, you will find out about how many spins you need. And obviously it's not that valuable. But it's not more expensive than beta black lotus either.
It's been happening for last 2 decades. Wasn't so crass before. Because it was on cutting quality & costs end, ie. getting rid of talent and replacing it with cheap, indolent activists. Lets see now, that economic crisis is at the door and the price ramp up end is being worked, if shutting up people protesting via calling them racist and sexist will still work. 😹
It really is emblematic of the rampant corporate fascism on display in modern globalist society. These companies wanna bend us over backwards, and when we say "no, we do not consent", they try to gaslight us and tell us we're the ones to blame for not wanting their product.
@@NachozMan Hope you enjoy the game. Been loving FaB, though I just play with my friends mostly. Highly recommend the blitz decks. Do you know which ones you're gonna get?
I'm gonna say it who wouldn't want to see Ashlyn Gould's professor and the guys from the command zone Podcast have a commander game that would be amazing and we all know it.
I gotta comment before even getting to the reaction, just seeing Asmon go through his cards and talk about playing for years really made me smile. Both because it's always nice to discover another player in the wild, but also because I'm genuinely amazed he found time for all the different stuff he did as a kid. I could *not* have managed MTG, WOW, and all that other stuff and still passed my classes XD
You mean like old sports cards? I sold 3 binders a few years ago with cards from the 80s to 90s with some very rare and valuable rookie cards and tops holograms and got almost 4k for them.
Asmon, your *immediate* reaction to the price - that the 30th Anniversary packs are, essentially, NFTs - is 100% on point... and darkly funny, because that's exactly who, as it turns out, was buying them, or at least the only ones willing to put themselves out there and say that they're buying them, given the... shall we say, "less than pleased" response the product elicited from the Magic community: this product turned out to be for the crypto-bros on Twitter, and nobody else.
Extremely heartbreaking to see the one game I love more than anything else I've ever enjoyed become the most tragic thing I've ever seen. I came back into it a couple years ago and I'm glad I got to finish up some loose ends I never got around to doing when I was younger, and for the most part I'm pretty glad I finally did. I hope so many others do soon if they haven't, but this... wow... just wow. And Asmon hit it right on the head; gaming in general just sucks. EVERYTHING sucks, and this is such a painful highlight to it all, and why.
I have never been more shocked watching Asmongold than when he shows his binder that's organized by color when his room and in game inventory are a complete cluster. 😂
Hearing him name a sliver deck, made me casually look over at mine, sitting in a case on a shelf. And realizing there's 20 years of collecting in that deck. Aethervials, Lotus Petals, Cavern of Souls, Gemstone Mines, the old Color Protection deck...man, I wish my town still had the few stores that went under where we'd all gather on the weekend and hang out drinking beer in the back of the comic shop.
The 50 dollar one would be worth it . Because you get the whole set. The fact they charged 1000 bucks for 60 cards not even close to the whole set at random .
My collection was eaten by termites. They passed on eating my cabinet and went STRAIGHT to my MTG collection. Typhoon Haiyan cut off all electricity to my city, so I looked to play MTG with my cousins. No card was spared.
@@gamersrevenge6528 I appreciate the thought. But I know how it plays out. I have a couple of friends who still play - though they tend to play with legacy packs and gave up buying into the new stuff about the time I quit. I still have my collection - love some of the artwork and memories, but moved on now. When they said I wasn't welcome, I took the hint and left. I don't want to be somewhere I'm not welcome.
As someone who is a big Blizzard/Magic fan, this was a great video to watch the collision of my 2 fandoms. For those Blizzard fans unfamiliar with all the history here, Magic's parent company got a new CEO about 4 years ago and is basically emulating Bobby Kotick's "strip mine the IP into the ground" playbook. This event is like a time machine of Activision circa 2012 when they had started to get their hooks in and really start ruining their franchises.
I mean its the same thing as buying Nikes or Supreme Brand. Youre gonna pay alot more for something with no extra practicality. youre basically paying for the brand.
Every time I think about getting back into magic, something like this comes and I think yeah even as an adult making a lot of money. This is still more than I want to spend on a hobby.
there is rlly no need for paying that much for the hobby. i always use those prerelease events. u get over 91 cards for about 30€. Since they only happen every 2-3 months i think its a great way to start a collection without paying skyrocket prices :)
I think it’s worth mentioning at least for Age of Sigmar (Warhammer).. you can spend like $170 on a holiday box and have a fully playable army. Some top meta decks for MTG were 500-700 earlier this year. It’s actually a less expensive to play Warhammer.. even if you add in paints, glue and terrain.
It has always baffled me that TCGs don't all have a 'worthless' tournament edition print that is legal in competition but can be ordered on demand from the website for like 2 dollars each.
If tournaments and championships were actually 100% about the skill of the player, they would either allow 100% proxy decks or supply the contestants with any and all cards they need to build whatever deck they want before the competition. Just like many other competitive games, you play with the equipment provided and they're only testing your skill. Again, if they were ONLY judging "skill of deckbuilding" and "skill of deck piloting". But, they don't. Winning a tournament is not just about how skilled you are as a player, but IF you can AFFORD to play the game with the best (and most expensive) cards. However, this is unfortunately a necessary evil. Because if the game pieces to play were provided at tournaments, you would have very little reason to actually buy MTG products. And in order for the game to survive, they need to keep making money as a business. The trick is to find a healthy balance between keeping both the company alive, and keeping the game affordable. Unfortunately right now we are leaning wayyyyyyyyyyy off the edge of the scale with "keeping the company filthy, filthy f*cking rich".
NOT TO MENTION when you go into the store to buy a booster pack, YOU choose which pack you buy. when you order online from wokes of the coast, you BETTER BELIEVE they are choosing what rares you get based on your "social credit score"
The NFT comparison was really good. MTG cards were a stable investment for decades and with one printing Hasbro completely fucked the entire foundation of their product, now it's as trustworthy as FTX
@@1tolightradius I own cards to play with them. I made an observation about the secondary market crashing because people don't trust WotC not to reprint everything. What are you even talking about?
@@1tolightradius It's not the only issue but its a big issue. Everyone who plays whether they collect/invest/flip or not, knows about the reserve list, and has lost some degree of trust with wizards over this. Not like Im financially effected or really looking foward to the product but its just souless on so many levels, against the spirit of the reserve list, pricing out 99% of player, and clearly motivated by short term desire to appease stock holders. It's a crescendo for a recent line of overpriced unaware products and easily one of the worst anniversary product of any sort Ive ever encountered.
You spent $280719 opening 1124 packs to acquire all rares. Money spent on product: $280719 Total packs opened: 1124 Total duals opened: 225 Total power opened: 115 Dollars spent per dual: $1247.64 Dollars spent per power: $2441.03
It gets worse. WOTC knew how the community felt about the product, and knew that they'd get little to no support from MTG content creators, so they reached out to other prominent tcg creators for games like yugioh and pokemon to promote it instead, without informing them of the controversy. And their videos were flooded with comments and downvotes over it and some of them even issued apology videos and won't work with Hasbro at all anymore because their product are effectively toxic.
So i have notoriously bad luck when it comes to opening packs, tried that simulator, it took me until 217k before i got one, also doing a draft with friends sounds like itd be a lot of fun to do and to watch!
I sold all of my card years ago m bought a car and put a down payment on a small house. I wanted these to make a lovely shadowbox framed set of cards to hang on my wall... Thank you WOTC for reminding me why I haven't touched the game in 20 years ..
Remember folks, MTG is the very same company that BANNED an old card because it read "destroy all black creatures" ... black is one of the five main colors of cards in the game .. they went woke, now they're going broke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I knew you had some magic decks but didn't know you actually used to play a lot. As a big fan of MTG aswel i would love to see more MTG content, that would be super cool! Very glad you are covering this magic 30 drama, it's huge in the MTG community!
Hearing about stuff like this is why I've never attempted to get into Magic, and I'm glad i didn't. Everyone talks about how much better it is than other card games, but no game is worth being treated so poorly. Hasbro/Wotc has been screwing over MTG for years and they've been doing the same to D&D, and as a huge dnd fan it sucks. I will stick to Pokemon tcg. Pokemon Company occasionally has issues keeping up with the supply and demand for big releases, but at least they don't outright insult their fan base like this. Sets are always priced consistently. Even when they do reprints of the iconic base set cards, they aren't priced any different from normal. AND they even update them so they're legal for standard play, so they are made for the collectors and the players.
I just got into MTG casually and of all the years I've watched Asmon, he has never shown or talked about MTG (at least not that I am aware of) and today, of all times he does it. This is one of those coincidences that make me believe in the simulation theory.
LOL what a scam. My interest was peaked but I read some comments and thought it would be something ridiculous like $50 a pack. Wow, $1k for 4 packs?? Hell nah. The value in the old cards is that they are a part of history. This is greed personified.
Hus reaction to the price being $999 takes me back to the day someone so completely destroyed me with an Eldrazi deck that I stopped playing the MTG lol. Come at me on Master Duels 😂.
So WoTC gonne full woke, destroying everything players loved, plus all the other controversy and he wants to basically promote their product for free by doing an OTK event. All right...
Since its inception I haven't met a single person that actually plays that game IRL, you only saw investor types buying up boxes en masse to resell them if anything
I'd gladly lay like 150-200$ for a complet3 wotc proxy alpha set . No usable . Essentially worthless. But I'd do that . This actually made me really mad ... 1000$ for packs ... wtf. And asmon is correct , many players purchase well outside their means . I have a full life , I retired and do pretty well in life Most of my mtg friends however... they donate plasma and stuff to afford keeping up with the meta . It's unreal.
I remember in year 7 playing yugioh on my lunch break back in 2000's. Fuck i feel old lol Anywho, i also remember magic the gathering and duel masters, but yugioh def was most popular, magic was more for the nerds, the geeks prefered the animes. I was a jock, so i inherited decks from my friends who had cards they didnt want, so i felt like yugi moto using hand-me-down cards lol using the heart of the cards😋
First it was mythic rares. Then it was comic con exclusives. Then it was Master sets. Then it was secret lair. Then it was bending the knee to armchair activists who can't separate fantasy from reality. And now it's selling proxies at 16 $ apiece. WotC has been on a downward trajectory for over a decade. Thank the lord I stopped playing. The only thing offensive about the company is how it disrespects its customers. I would sooner sharpie a plains or a piece of white cardboard than reward WotC for this bs, and I hope everyone reading this is smart enough to do the same.
i started magic when 4th edition came out, i would take my paycheck every 2 weeks and buy a box of booster packs for different editions. i mustve spent thousands on them. favorite card i owned. an autographed shivan dragon by the artist melissa benson.
I wanted a to pull a shivan so bad back in the day and it just never happened. The small card shop stall at the flea market had 6 or 7 copies in the counter. Come to find out a couple years later the owner would open the packs swap cards out of the pack and reseal them.
Wait a minute, im 34, when did mtg actually originate? Is it really 30 years old? Im from australia, maybe it took time to arrive here as we dont have comic book stores or anything geeky n cool, at least not in 2000's. Maybe now, havent seen any thou. No way mtg is 30 years old!?!?!?
Can't wait to see you guys teach emiru then throw her into a live draft. I mean, at least give her some cards and practice drafts :) Huge LVD fan but otherwise I burn out on mtg and go back every few years
Couple years back Hasbro looked to be trying to sell Wizards of the Coast, so that's probably why they were trying to increase revenue/pad their numbers to sell it.. but I think they changed their mind, and are now just trying to milk as much as they can from their shee-I mean, players.
i love how talarian is getting so much press because of this mtg situation. i saw him on actually youtube new because of hasbro and stock falls. so great
I don’t play Magic, and I cannot believe the boneheaded, out of touch, weak handed business move this is! The had a “shut up and take my” moment and they blew it…
The way his smile is gone and shine in his eyes left after learning the price was priceless
That was the best part of the entire video 😂😂😂🎉
U had me waiting for this part... the hype was real hahaaa
I had a similar experience watching myself.
tag: mind break
I see what you did there :D
That moment when WOTC celebrated their 30th anniversary of MTG by marking all of their first year cards MSRP up by 30x, brought me to tears
Wotc? Msrp? I must be getting old lol what do they abbreviate for?
@@Shin_Akumi WotC = Wizards of the Coast (the makers of Magic the Gathering), MSRP = Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price...
WotC is displaying who they really are with this set and forgetting to control their insatiable greed. They are creating "collectibles" while throwing a middle finger at the fans that have supported them since the beginning. Essentially a woke move that will likely alienate many of their long-time fans (such as myself).
@@jchinckley thankyou, im a casual fan of magic, played in high school almost 20 years ago, and bought some games on the xbox 1, but never understood it properly, at least yugioh has an anime to set the scene, magic always felt like, ur older brothers toys u couldn't touch but admire lol, but thanks again buddy 🤙🏽
@@Shin_Akumi wizzards of the coast and manufacturer's suggested retail price, don't worry, i had to google it out bc americans kids use shortcuts just to show off
@@Hammerpowah haha thanks bro🤙🏽
I can't believe the reach this has. As a magic fan and collector my whole life, it's amazing to see what we've been complaining about for the past 3 years finally being heard.
Just be thankful it's only been 3 to 5 years for you all. Other TCGs died 10 years ago because of greed and stupidity.
@@TheHandHistoryVault And for Magic, it's being covered and pointed out while there is still time to fix it and change course. So there is still hope for the community at least.
@@TheHandHistoryVault what happened to Yu-Gi-Oh?
@@thehatter9400 hand traps and power creep turned it into a t0-t1 game
@@1996BlueMan i was more of a casual player so im not sure what T0-t1 means
You know he's old school when he calls an instant "an interupt"
Well, you know, it's an interruption
Instants and interrupts were two different things, interrupts given priority. Then the stack system was tweaked a bit, and interrupts were removed and either made into "mana sources" or instants. But yeah, definitely only something us old-timers remember
@@davidb8815 They "fixed" interrupts with split-second.
Interrupts are basically the higher spell speeds in yu-gi-oh, traps and quick effects are spell speed 2, meaning they can interrupt the activation of normal spells and effects and each other, and counter traps and hand traps are spell speed 3, they can interrupt spell speed 2 cards, and can only be interrupted by other spell speed 3 cards. Honorable mention goes to super poly and other completely uninterrupterable effects, basically spell speed 4.
The game was better when interrupts existed. By far.
Asmon shows his Magic pedigree by saying Counterspell is an interrupt.
Tell me you're an OG magic player without telling me you're OG lool
Those were the days, for sure.
@@Forthelulz01 Right up there with having a brown deck
@@JohnDoe-og2bt mone brown, aka "take them to brown town"
It's impressive that he knows that even though he started playing during og Kami block
The Professor!!! This guy is a great magic creator, and such a funny dude. His duels with Post Malone are some of the best Magic content ever
@@EcnalKcin context?
Post Malone played with The Professor and two other people commander. Post Malone is big on magic, he bought The One Ring OG for like a million dollars and is collecting as well. They had great games as Post Malone is a very fun dude too.
@@markomancikasthe channel they did that on is called: I Hate Your Deck. Great bunch of players. Was a lot of fun to watch.
The professor is the most popular MTG youtuber and he takes that role as a responsibility to the community.
Its a shame he doesn't actually know how to play the game lol.
I love that asmon is even covering this. Prof is a gem to the community
not anymore since he startet with that woke bs
@@tdot8280 aww is it hard for you to be respectful? It's okay you'll feel better after a nap
@@tdot8280 bro imagine caring about politics
The professor is so based
idk he is ok. But he has an ego, he spams woke shit like trans charity lmao, and his mentra "buy singles" is misguided in its core. His opinions on MTG are nothing ground breaking, it is good he has them as he has large platform, just that they are logical if you look at the trajectory of the game.
The look on your face when the price was announced is the perfect encapsulation of the community's feelings about this product: disgust, disappointment, disbelief.
I'm depressed that Asmongold is the only other person I know of who's called these paper NFTs, because that's exactly what they are, and that's the audience that wants this product.
You are talking about collectors, there are people that want to play the game but get ripped off horribly
@@Verienn This product is garbage even for collectors. The only people who think they can flip it for money are crypto bros
@@Gouretoratto fair enough
I collect. I do not want this product. It’s an insult to mtg.
If I was to buy an NFT, I'd at least know how many are floating around. I'd have the information to know the scarcity/rarity of the product. Wizards doesn't make any of that information public. Its worse than NFT's IMO.
Seeing the Prof on Asmongold is so surreal. I've been a fan of him since like the start of Covid. He got me big into Commander after not playing magic since like Gatecrash. Couldn't be more happy with this collab!
Oh God. Asmon is reacting to the MTG controversy that's how you know this shit has reached critical level
It reached Cr1tikal level when penguinz0 reacted to it.
@@PatrickWDunne no idea who that is so they're clearly not that important.
@@ertai222 large TH-camr/Twitch streamer that shares a some of a viewer base with Asmongold.
The transition from elation that they were making this to abject horror when the price was released was amazing. He looked so dejected when the price was announced.
Just when i thought i couldnt love this degenerate more and he whips out his different decks and binder for MTG. Fuckin love this man
True degenerate. Organized binder but has a rotting pan in the backyard making a new bio weapon
And of course bald man has a sliver deck lol
Well the moment I learned he plays a mill deck I just thought: what a degeneret.
But after my 2nd thought, yeah it fits.
When if not asmon playing a deck totally denying the enemy of playing the game and having fun.
Still love asmon.
He prolly bought that binder off ebay like lastyear. I dont remember asmongold talking about magic cards, infact i did once and he didnt really recall shit about it, now hes claiming to have have 10 grand of cards but shows us a swords and plowshares obviously from revised not unlimited. That cards like, worth nothing lol, even in unlimited its like a 40 doller card. any real head who plays magic, well legacy magic, no new garbage, owns full sets of revised dual lands, i own a set of bayous, tropical islands, badlands, underground seas, i have over a set in each varient, back in 2005, revised dual lands were 10-15 a pop allday, maybe 20 for a absolute perfect one, even in like 2011-2012, dual lands were 50 a pop, now its like 2 grand for a playset, thats nuts.
@@profo4544 do you own a life?
a rough day for Magic fans everywhere
I love that pulling a black lotus costs more than buying a mint one from actual Beta.
@@Argumemnon A mint black lotus from actual beta will cost you at least 40.000 $
@@Bartleby1892so that’s 40 spins,you think you’d get BL in 40 packs? Also it would be far,far less valuable than 40k anyway.
@@italianspiderman5012 I mean just watch the whole video, you will find out about how many spins you need. And obviously it's not that valuable. But it's not more expensive than beta black lotus either.
@@minuette1752 I was being generous. I don't know about the US market atm, but in europe you wouldn't even get near mint for that price.
Dude a magic draft with all of you guys would make me cry out of happiness
did you even watch the video?
This did not happen to the game. IT HAPPENED TO THE WORLD!
underrated comment
It's been happening for last 2 decades. Wasn't so crass before. Because it was on cutting quality & costs end, ie. getting rid of talent and replacing it with cheap, indolent activists.
Lets see now, that economic crisis is at the door and the price ramp up end is being worked, if shutting up people protesting via calling them racist and sexist will still work. 😹
It really is emblematic of the rampant corporate fascism on display in modern globalist society. These companies wanna bend us over backwards, and when we say "no, we do not consent", they try to gaslight us and tell us we're the ones to blame for not wanting their product.
@@noname-gp6hk But capitalism=bad, Yeah we the consumer have the power but am still going to complain and buy the thing
@@NachozMan Hope you enjoy the game. Been loving FaB, though I just play with my friends mostly. Highly recommend the blitz decks. Do you know which ones you're gonna get?
The look when the price reveal was said was priceless and heartbreaking at the same time.
this means amon will be a future guest on shuffle and play
That would be so sick
amongld
we can hope :D
I would love to see Asmon on Shuffle up and Play, maybe have him pilot his slivers or a boros deck.
Room: Absolute state
MTG cards: well organised, kept in good condition in their own binders and storage
Asmon really is a MTG fan.
wow nice! its like expanding universes in real life! two of my favourite content creators!
holy shit lol seeing asmon react to TCC and learning he plays MTG is surreal
yeah wotc is going really far with these meta universes beyond...
@@doppelganger9254 world of warcraft streamer and other games
I'm gonna say it who wouldn't want to see Ashlyn Gould's professor and the guys from the command zone Podcast have a commander game that would be amazing and we all know it.
I gotta comment before even getting to the reaction, just seeing Asmon go through his cards and talk about playing for years really made me smile. Both because it's always nice to discover another player in the wild, but also because I'm genuinely amazed he found time for all the different stuff he did as a kid. I could *not* have managed MTG, WOW, and all that other stuff and still passed my classes XD
There is old videos of him playing in shops when he was younger.
Yeah he just choose not to pass classes, it's called sacrifice, a very honorable quality to have
Imagine screwing up a business where you sell cardboard squares for like 10000x what they cost to manufacture. Jeeeesus.
You mean like old sports cards? I sold 3 binders a few years ago with cards from the 80s to 90s with some very rare and valuable rookie cards and tops holograms and got almost 4k for them.
Asmon, your *immediate* reaction to the price - that the 30th Anniversary packs are, essentially, NFTs - is 100% on point... and darkly funny, because that's exactly who, as it turns out, was buying them, or at least the only ones willing to put themselves out there and say that they're buying them, given the... shall we say, "less than pleased" response the product elicited from the Magic community: this product turned out to be for the crypto-bros on Twitter, and nobody else.
This mans story telling was incredible. He's definitely a natural entertainer
He used to be a languages college professor I believe. Hence his name. So yeah, telling stories to large audiences is naturally his thing.
Extremely heartbreaking to see the one game I love more than anything else I've ever enjoyed become the most tragic thing I've ever seen. I came back into it a couple years ago and I'm glad I got to finish up some loose ends I never got around to doing when I was younger, and for the most part I'm pretty glad I finally did.
I hope so many others do soon if they haven't, but this... wow... just wow. And Asmon hit it right on the head; gaming in general just sucks. EVERYTHING sucks, and this is such a painful highlight to it all, and why.
Oh you want a collection of cardboard memories? That’ll be $120.000, of materials worth 5 bucks.
Truly has become TRAGIC:The Garnering.
I'll see myself out...
At least it's still not yugioh
-Former yugioh player
Once you go proxy legacy you never go back. Never another cent out of me.
It’s never to late to play magic? Or learn it?
I have never been more shocked watching Asmongold than when he shows his binder that's organized by color when his room and in game inventory are a complete cluster. 😂
it wasnt by WUBRG order reeeeeeee
His room is a mess so you people think he's poor and like everyone of us... some average guy in real the other rooms probably look way better
Hearing him name a sliver deck, made me casually look over at mine, sitting in a case on a shelf. And realizing there's 20 years of collecting in that deck. Aethervials, Lotus Petals, Cavern of Souls, Gemstone Mines, the old Color Protection deck...man, I wish my town still had the few stores that went under where we'd all gather on the weekend and hang out drinking beer in the back of the comic shop.
A better crossover than anything from Marvel last few years 🥳
The worst is it being sold in directly in wizards website. So big part of community is built and reside in local stores.
Idk if I'd call it the 'worst' part, $250/pack has that crown I think. :P
The 50 dollar one would be worth it . Because you get the whole set. The fact they charged 1000 bucks for 60 cards not even close to the whole set at random .
Tired of the lootbox card games. Just let me buy all the pieces of the game at a reasonable price.
Profs video was so big that we got Asmon reacting to it. That's monumental.
I wouldn’t say that, it’s just that asmon is a magic player so it’s on his radar
They learned the lessons of mobile games. Forget the fish, go for the whales.
I hate that u are probably right :(
holy shit asmon reacting to the professor it really happened
My collection was eaten by termites.
They passed on eating my cabinet and went STRAIGHT to my MTG collection.
Typhoon Haiyan cut off all electricity to my city, so I looked to play MTG with my cousins.
No card was spared.
I used to play MTG 7 or 8 years ago. I was told it wasn't for me, so I moved on. Never regretted it.
Ur missing out! It's a lot of fun
@@gamersrevenge6528 I appreciate the thought. But I know how it plays out. I have a couple of friends who still play - though they tend to play with legacy packs and gave up buying into the new stuff about the time I quit. I still have my collection - love some of the artwork and memories, but moved on now. When they said I wasn't welcome, I took the hint and left. I don't want to be somewhere I'm not welcome.
@@tehbeernerd Yeah they already did a whole did D&D set, and a punch of Secret Lairs with 3rd party IPs
As someone who is a big Blizzard/Magic fan, this was a great video to watch the collision of my 2 fandoms. For those Blizzard fans unfamiliar with all the history here, Magic's parent company got a new CEO about 4 years ago and is basically emulating Bobby Kotick's "strip mine the IP into the ground" playbook. This event is like a time machine of Activision circa 2012 when they had started to get their hooks in and really start ruining their franchises.
You can actually see the exact moment his heart breaks.
I mean its the same thing as buying Nikes or Supreme Brand. Youre gonna pay alot more for something with no extra practicality. youre basically paying for the brand.
9:14
His smile and optimism: gone
As soon as dude said "I drafted boros" Im like iight he played
Biggest crossover of the year
Every time I think about getting back into magic, something like this comes and I think yeah even as an adult making a lot of money. This is still more than I want to spend on a hobby.
there is rlly no need for paying that much for the hobby. i always use those prerelease events. u get over 91 cards for about 30€. Since they only happen every 2-3 months i think its a great way to start a collection without paying skyrocket prices :)
The wallet fatigue is real.
You know he’s old school Mtg because he said Interrupt.
I love MTG, and have so many good memories of it (2000-2010), and it just boils my blood how much wotc has pushed out folks just for the money grab.
I d love to see Asmon draft with friends
I think it’s worth mentioning at least for Age of Sigmar (Warhammer).. you can spend like $170 on a holiday box and have a fully
playable army. Some top meta decks for MTG were 500-700 earlier this year. It’s actually a less expensive to play Warhammer.. even if you add in paints, glue and terrain.
Holy fuck, so your telling me the plastic crack is cheaper then printed paper ?!?!
They're celebrating the 30 year anniversary but the players aren't invited.
It's so sad....As a mtg player who began playing in 2002 I never been so sad about the state of the game
It has always baffled me that TCGs don't all have a 'worthless' tournament edition print that is legal in competition but can be ordered on demand from the website for like 2 dollars each.
MTG used to have tournament decks. About as close as you could get I guess
its called a printer lol
There was tournamente decks and there is pauper format.
If tournaments and championships were actually 100% about the skill of the player, they would either allow 100% proxy decks or supply the contestants with any and all cards they need to build whatever deck they want before the competition. Just like many other competitive games, you play with the equipment provided and they're only testing your skill. Again, if they were ONLY judging "skill of deckbuilding" and "skill of deck piloting". But, they don't. Winning a tournament is not just about how skilled you are as a player, but IF you can AFFORD to play the game with the best (and most expensive) cards.
However, this is unfortunately a necessary evil. Because if the game pieces to play were provided at tournaments, you would have very little reason to actually buy MTG products. And in order for the game to survive, they need to keep making money as a business. The trick is to find a healthy balance between keeping both the company alive, and keeping the game affordable. Unfortunately right now we are leaning wayyyyyyyyyyy off the edge of the scale with "keeping the company filthy, filthy f*cking rich".
@@S1L3NTDr460n yugioh then
I would fucking love to watch them do a MTG draft live!
I wonder if Wizards will finally get their head out of their ass now
NOT TO MENTION when you go into the store to buy a booster pack, YOU choose which pack you buy. when you order online from wokes of the coast, you BETTER BELIEVE they are choosing what rares you get based on your "social credit score"
The NFT comparison was really good. MTG cards were a stable investment for decades and with one printing Hasbro completely fucked the entire foundation of their product, now it's as trustworthy as FTX
@@1tolightradius I own cards to play with them. I made an observation about the secondary market crashing because people don't trust WotC not to reprint everything. What are you even talking about?
@@1tolightradius It's not the only issue but its a big issue. Everyone who plays whether they collect/invest/flip or not, knows about the reserve list, and has lost some degree of trust with wizards over this. Not like Im financially effected or really looking foward to the product but its just souless on so many levels, against the spirit of the reserve list, pricing out 99% of player, and clearly motivated by short term desire to appease stock holders. It's a crescendo for a recent line of overpriced unaware products and easily one of the worst anniversary product of any sort Ive ever encountered.
There is absolutely no reason to buy these. Don't do it.
Asmon has an artifact affinity deck!
Im speechless 😍
9:10 priceless on learning 1k for 4 packs. Tolarian is one of the best mtg youtubers out there.
Love TCC, he always makes great content
You spent $280719 opening 1124 packs to acquire all rares.
Money spent on product: $280719
Total packs opened: 1124
Total duals opened: 225
Total power opened: 115
Dollars spent per dual: $1247.64
Dollars spent per power: $2441.03
Reserve List: The original NFT
Lol yep So true that's actually true I never even thought about it like that that's funny.
It gets worse. WOTC knew how the community felt about the product, and knew that they'd get little to no support from MTG content creators, so they reached out to other prominent tcg creators for games like yugioh and pokemon to promote it instead, without informing them of the controversy. And their videos were flooded with comments and downvotes over it and some of them even issued apology videos and won't work with Hasbro at all anymore because their product are effectively toxic.
So i have notoriously bad luck when it comes to opening packs, tried that simulator, it took me until 217k before i got one, also doing a draft with friends sounds like itd be a lot of fun to do and to watch!
People are like "You play magic?"
Guys, look at him. Let's stereotype for a second😹 Of course he plays Magic😹
Sweet mother of all cardgames, didn't know that asmon would be a mtg dude
It's so crazy to see The Professor like this, he tends to be warm and with a big smile. They fucked up so hard.
I would love to see a live magic the gathering draft! That would be amazing! Hope you can make it happen Asmon, Thank you for everything you do!
When I was young I asked my Grandma for some "magic cards" for christmas and she got me a magician's card deck....
>Counterspell
>Interrupt
not only a fan but an OLD SCHOOL fan.
Interrupt is a relatively new term.
If he said Instant, then I'd consider him an old school fan.
@@river7874 Hasn't "interrupt" stopped being used like 15 years ago tho?
@@river7874 “Tapping this artifact can be played as an interrupt?” Isn’t that long-deprecated wording for original mox artifacts?
I sold all of my card years ago m bought a car and put a down payment on a small house. I wanted these to make a lovely shadowbox framed set of cards to hang on my wall... Thank you WOTC for reminding me why I haven't touched the game in 20 years ..
My MTG my poor poor MTG, what have they done to you....
Remember folks, MTG is the very same company that BANNED an old card because it read "destroy all black creatures" ... black is one of the five main colors of cards in the game .. they went woke, now they're going broke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I knew you had some magic decks but didn't know you actually used to play a lot. As a big fan of MTG aswel i would love to see more MTG content, that would be super cool! Very glad you are covering this magic 30 drama, it's huge in the MTG community!
Hearing about stuff like this is why I've never attempted to get into Magic, and I'm glad i didn't. Everyone talks about how much better it is than other card games, but no game is worth being treated so poorly. Hasbro/Wotc has been screwing over MTG for years and they've been doing the same to D&D, and as a huge dnd fan it sucks.
I will stick to Pokemon tcg. Pokemon Company occasionally has issues keeping up with the supply and demand for big releases, but at least they don't outright insult their fan base like this. Sets are always priced consistently. Even when they do reprints of the iconic base set cards, they aren't priced any different from normal. AND they even update them so they're legal for standard play, so they are made for the collectors and the players.
I just got into MTG casually and of all the years I've watched Asmon, he has never shown or talked about MTG (at least not that I am aware of) and today, of all times he does it. This is one of those coincidences that make me believe in the simulation theory.
LOL what a scam. My interest was peaked but I read some comments and thought it would be something ridiculous like $50 a pack. Wow, $1k for 4 packs?? Hell nah. The value in the old cards is that they are a part of history. This is greed personified.
Hus reaction to the price being $999 takes me back to the day someone so completely destroyed me with an Eldrazi deck that I stopped playing the MTG lol. Come at me on Master Duels 😂.
Looking forward to the appearance on Shuffle Up & Play.
Loved your reactions and appreciate you covering this topic as I'm a big MTG fan and unhappy about this 30th Anniversary product.
Rando: "Man, these corporations are really screwing us over here!"
Gamers: "Oh hey. You new?"
At 9:13 you can see Asmongolds heart breaking
So WoTC gonne full woke, destroying everything players loved, plus all the other controversy and he wants to basically promote their product for free by doing an OTK event.
All right...
The professor and asmongold. I didn't know that I needed this but let's go!
The prof is wise, and has a full head of hair.
Should try Flesh and Blood TCG. Such a great game.
Definitely an interesting alternative. Seems like it's picking up steam. Hasbro is making it more appealing with all their greed.
Since its inception I haven't met a single person that actually plays that game IRL, you only saw investor types buying up boxes en masse to resell them if anything
@@andros1486 well the lgs I go to has weekly games. I saw them drafting and playing. Someone gave me a demo.
"At least we didn't play yugioh" just to have his soul snatched by wotc🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We need Asmongold in the MTG TH-cam community. Please do an MTG channel.
I'd gladly lay like 150-200$ for a complet3 wotc proxy alpha set .
No usable . Essentially worthless.
But I'd do that .
This actually made me really mad ... 1000$ for packs ... wtf.
And asmon is correct , many players purchase well outside their means .
I have a full life , I retired and do pretty well in life
Most of my mtg friends however... they donate plasma and stuff to afford keeping up with the meta .
It's unreal.
World love to see you play magic with the professor on his channel! Would be sick!
About reprinting - they said they will never reprint P9 for standard gameplay. This is just a collectible series.
Asmond's face is gold when he hears 1000 dollars.....
I remember in year 7 playing yugioh on my lunch break back in 2000's. Fuck i feel old lol
Anywho, i also remember magic the gathering and duel masters, but yugioh def was most popular, magic was more for the nerds, the geeks prefered the animes. I was a jock, so i inherited decks from my friends who had cards they didnt want, so i felt like yugi moto using hand-me-down cards lol using the heart of the cards😋
I'd love to see you run a draft game!
First it was mythic rares. Then it was comic con exclusives. Then it was Master sets. Then it was secret lair. Then it was bending the knee to armchair activists who can't separate fantasy from reality. And now it's selling proxies at 16 $ apiece.
WotC has been on a downward trajectory for over a decade. Thank the lord I stopped playing. The only thing offensive about the company is how it disrespects its customers. I would sooner sharpie a plains or a piece of white cardboard than reward WotC for this bs, and I hope everyone reading this is smart enough to do the same.
i started magic when 4th edition came out, i would take my paycheck every 2 weeks and buy a box of booster packs for different editions. i mustve spent thousands on them. favorite card i owned. an autographed shivan dragon by the artist melissa benson.
I wanted a to pull a shivan so bad back in the day and it just never happened. The small card shop stall at the flea market had 6 or 7 copies in the counter. Come to find out a couple years later the owner would open the packs swap cards out of the pack and reseal them.
Wait a minute, im 34, when did mtg actually originate? Is it really 30 years old? Im from australia, maybe it took time to arrive here as we dont have comic book stores or anything geeky n cool, at least not in 2000's. Maybe now, havent seen any thou.
No way mtg is 30 years old!?!?!?
Can't wait to see you guys teach emiru then throw her into a live draft. I mean, at least give her some cards and practice drafts :)
Huge LVD fan but otherwise I burn out on mtg and go back every few years
Give her a month on mtg Arena to study the game and draft her butt off, and I'm sure she'll be fine! 🥰
Couple years back Hasbro looked to be trying to sell Wizards of the Coast, so that's probably why they were trying to increase revenue/pad their numbers to sell it.. but I think they changed their mind, and are now just trying to milk as much as they can from their shee-I mean, players.
i love how talarian is getting so much press because of this mtg situation. i saw him on actually youtube new because of hasbro and stock falls. so great
I don’t play Magic, and I cannot believe the boneheaded, out of touch, weak handed business move this is! The had a “shut up and take my” moment and they blew it…
It’s pretty hilarious how well Asmon would fit in at FNM while being in a totally different tier in life lol