Beaufort, SC, bans 5 books from school shelves after push to ban 97 | 60 Minutes
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- A South Carolina school district’s superintendent pulled 97 books from schools after a ban push from a few parents and residents. Almost all of the books have since been returned to school libraries.
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1984 and Fareinheit 451 are slowly becoming reality…
No sh*t, Sherlock. 😂
@@MrSalvage1969 Well maybe the LGBT community should read those books. That community is all about censorship!
They used to be a must read in high school
@@thepepperlanders That's actually incorrect: 1984 was banned in Iowa due to Iowa’s Senate File 496 and Penncrest School District in PA. Frisco Independent School District in TX banned both 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.
@@bekahmccue first off I know your comment is false because you can not ban any book in any state. So no, Iowa did not ban 1984. School districts are another thing and we’re talking about children’s libraries. There are no book bans. Stop falling for the propaganda.
I liked where a group of adults came together and actually read and discussed the books verses taking one persons review as fact. Getting the community involved was a good move in my opinion.
I agree
I think in general we rely on librarians, and if you are a parent who is overly concerned about this, go with you kid to the library or sign a document as mentioned in this piece, and say you need to OK what your kid borrows from the school library.
It may also take the heat off of librarians and teachers. It's more difficult for them to be derided as "groomers" if there are people in the community who've discussed the books with them and now know them. It's much harder to hate, or to look the other way while others hate--people who are no longer just names of strangers.
Every school district in America has policies and procedures in place where parents can either limit with their kids, check out or where they can challenge materials. But those procedures are not good enough for mom for liberty. Those don’t get them headlines or cause scenes at school board meetings, so they want to circumvent they already establish procedures so they can get their clips for social media and wear their T-shirts and scream about corn being in schools.
Problem is that then your kid potentially can't go to the school library @@crystalwarelkand faces social ostracizing... mom's for library sucks but I also don't want random librarians curating extra curricular school reading. Even teachers don't get that kind of latitude. I like the community vetting approach where parents and teachers collaborate to curate the library options and personally read the material. They did end up banning some books using that approach, books that were inappropriate for a school library, so clearly leaving it to just a librarian/historic processes is not adequate.
I guarantee the kids that would've never touched these books are undoubtedly looking into them now.
Kids dont read books but nt
@@suntzu6122 if they're not reading, than no reason to ban :) great job!
They're forming book clubs to read them.😂 smart kids.
@@shotbyjkru When teachers read and teach according to them, theres the problem.
@@shotbyjkruDid you read Mein Kamph or The Turner Diaries because they were banned or should those be allowed in school as well?
They attempted to ban "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Morrison, who won the Nobel Prize for literature. She was literally one of the greatest novelists to ever live and these ridiculous Moms Against Liberty tried to remove it.
What an extraordinary way of handling the book ban request! The school system holding a community workshop to read and review the books in question was a wonderful idea! Thank you for covering this. I sincerely hope this message is received across the nation and used by other school districts.
Bookbans are still bad
No. The person making the request should have citations to show what particular was too illicit and why.
@@xblade149IDK, there are some absolutely vile books out there. Not a general, society wide ban of course but kids definitely don't need to read any ol thing out there
@@genericamerican7574the problem with that is where you snip it can drastically change the meaning of the passage.
@@genericamerican7574 exactly
Protecting children from books but not guns
Conservative logic be like…
I smell 🐑 😂
How are you protecting kids vs guns without taking our rights away, again?
@@fastm3980I smell a fascist take an acid shower
Conservatives care more about their guns.
Banning books seems like a great way to get your child interested in reading a book they probably wouldn’t have touched otherwise
You are correct. It was because these books are being banned from school libraries. Would you teach your innocent kid that if there was past discrimination that there should be present discrimination and then call that "anti-racism"?
Same thing happened in the 1980s with slapping parental advisory labels on music.
@@tommyt1971Similar. That was Tipper Gore and the PMRC.
Also shows us who the fascists are
@axileus9327 Shouldn't that be the parents' decision?
“Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal faults by concealing the evidence that they ever existed. Don't be afraid to go into your library and read every book.” Dwight Eisenhower
WHere they once burned books, they will eventually burn people.
~ German Jewish poet Heinrich Heine, 1880
You can’t honestly believe the general/President Eisenhower would go along with this Junk. Some have come so far from Reel!
Not wanting certain books on a kids library school shelf is not book burning.
The books can still be bought, or found at regular libraries.
You wouldn’t want Mein kampf on school library shelves would you?
@@nathanchenery1075 Would you prefer students not know how dangerous and absurd Hitler's viewpoints were? Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Honestly, I don't know a lot of students who are going to slog through Mein Kampf anyway, and the lists of books currently being objected to don't generally include Mein Kampf. Perhaps if a few more adults were familiar with it, they'd recognize when its ideas where being espoused by others and be more afraid of that than of books in libraries.
@@nathanchenery1075 We literally read portions of Mein Kampf in my AP European History class. Because, you know, that's exactly the type of class where you would learn about real European history. Duh.
Do we have any evidence that someone's sexual orientation can be altered or influenced by books? I mean, come on we all have similar anatomy and physiology. I happen to be heterosexual and I know it's not because my parents gave me firetrucks to play with instead of dolls. No toys or books or television can contend with natural biological impulses which are hardwired. I'm not saying there are no outside influences on sexual orientation, but they would have to be physical, like chemicals that act on hormones or via some biological chemical mechanism. People who think a book is going to make a kid homosexual are probably closet homosexuals who think they were somehow affected by media. It's ridiculous to let irrational, fake moral outrages determine our education policy.
How about not having sexually explicit books in children's libraries in the first place?
Is not about that, is about allowing pathetic privileged ppl who struggle in life is to find themselves, no person who has invested that much effort in their personal identity, has never suffered pain and mental health problems are a real issue, when u are a good person, man or woman, puts their well being aside and focus on thee well being of they're family, can endure pain, hunger, physical pain and try their best to not let it show, it's. Not always worth it, no no book, no government will influenced me to change me, and yes, any gay agenda I'm against for, rainbow flag, is an insult,
@@stephenthomas1492 Watch the video again where the librarian states she has never had a parent complain about a book.2:47
Book banners and burners have never been the good guys.
Both parties are guilty, one over racism, another over adult content. In 2020 Libs were quick to cancel a whole bunch of things because of racism, including books. I would agree if the book has explicit sexual pictures or descriptions of the sexual act it should not be in school. I doubt that you can open po.nhub from the school library pc and think that this is ok to restrict content for kids, be it books or movies or videos. The same logic. If it's just lgbt thing then it's okay.
Funny any adult can buy these books. No much of a ban.
@@en9878 I want one actual verified example of libs banning books from schools. By the way I would slam them for that as well.
@@mattp6953 I would like one example of an actual book that is banned in the US? This has to do with what books should be allowed in a school library.
@@jaws392 did I stutter. I said one incident of libs banning books from grade schools. Your play.
Moms for Liberty need some ACTUAL WORK! Like serving the homeless, housing pregnant girls or tutoring children in reading. BUNCH OF HOLLYWOOD HOUSEWIVES DOING NOTHING PRODUCTIVE.
Unfortunately those things take empathy
I'm not sure they're all (or even many) Hollywood housewives. Otherwise, yes, these people need to do actual work and stop trying to impose their "Christian" values on other people's children.
I'd say it's pretty rich to call themselves "Mom's for Liberty" in the first place really, don't ya think? 🤔 Don't get it twisted I certainly don't condone books being exposed to children in school that could cause harm to kids. But, the audacity these mother's have by using a word like "liberty" to call their group is quite silly to say the least IMO. I mean how can they use the word liberty to identify their group campaigning on banning books. When by definition "liberty" means being free from oppressive restrictions in society imposed by one's way of life, behavior or political views. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander." You can't have your cake & eat it too! Just saying... Let's keep it a buck!
Underpaid teachers having to teach the kids by day and then re-educate the adults that weren’t paying attention the first time around in the evening😂😂😂
God bless our teachers! It’s become a thankless job!!!!
5 books banned = those mothers were right.
You missed this fact
DeSantis governor of Florida got y'all again?😅😅
*Overpaid
@@steelyspielbergoOverpaid? Tell me what job which requires a bachelor's degree pays 40k a year, 10 years in, while working 50+ hours a week. Not to mention they are dealing with 15-20 kids. Ill sit here and wait.
Why would any kind of sexualized book be in a school full of children?
Reading breeds empathy. Students need to see their own world viewed through the lens of another with a different experience. And THAT’S how we achieve true peace.
How many books on the list have you read??
I soooo agree with this original statement! We need way more empathy and understanding and way less intolerance and Ignorance. How do we do this? By educating ourselves and our children with Books!!! 💜
That's an absurd argument. Children don't need to read about sexual themes at inappropriate ages.
@@MichaelDamianPHD THIS is an absurd argument. Who said anything about sexual themes? Are you conflating anything with LGBTQIA+ content with sex? There are PLENTY of stories out there with diverse characters that have NOTHING to do with sex; MOST of the time these characters are simply existing, which is also what the majority of the LGBTQIA+ community does in real life. So, yeah, I still think everyone should attempt to understand all people and their unique experience.
If YOU personally don’t want to, then that’s your prerogative, but the real argument is whether a few (and rather loud) parents should dictate what other parent’s children and teens should be able to read. We’re either for parent’s rights or we’re not.
Very well said. @@SRodriguez82
What's really crazy is how ineffectual this strategy is. Internet has been commercially available to most Americans for over two decades. You're only cutting off one very narrow avenue of access. The impact on sales and exposure for these books is likely negligible. It might even increase both.
How about banning poverty or banning hate? What about banning willful ignorance, racism, dictators, fascism?
If you wish to ban poverty then get a job that offers higher wages. Perhaps start your own business. If you want to ban hate teach and show love.
It’s up to you not the other guy. It’s up to you not the government.
@@richardsuggs8108 It is up to us all, including the government of "We the People"...
So from the Newt Gingrich Congress, to the W era, to the Tea Party Movement, then MAGA, now Christian Nationalism...never a shortage of crazies whose existence seems to be about imposing their beliefs on everyone.
I talk with my kids often about the dangers of REAL indoctrination at the expense of free, critical thinking skills. IE: religion and groupthink.
But it's okay to tell small children they can change sex and feed them hormones and chop off body parts, sometimes even without parental knowledge? I'll share your indignation about religious indoctrination but these so-called "bans" are of books that are far more dangerously dogmatic. People who compare wanting to remove sexually explicit, non-age-appropriate books from SCHOOL libraries to actual fascist public bannings and burnings simply don't know what they're talking about.
ABSOLUTELY. Unfortunately they got boosts from both GW Bush and T***p, the latter of whom is one of the biggest phonies and losers claiming to be a man of god. How they can support a guy who's broken all the 10 Cs and most of the laws of the Bible is beyond me.
You're talking a lot of nonsense
@MichaelDamianPHD
If you think that's nonsense, my guess is that you're likely a member of one of the aforementioned groups.
Also, there a few people in this world more insufferable than those who use whatever chance they get to mention "I'm a PhD"
"Christian Nationalism" lol, these buzzwords are getting really out of control
This is likely to backfire on them. Tell a teenager not to do something and more likely they will do it.
1 or 2 out of thousands of them will read those books but the majority of them won’t care. Every teen I know don’t even touch books.
@@Ghost-sz2qm"Every teen I know don't even touch books." This isn't even about the books that are never touched by a teen at all, they're about unacceptable pornographic gay literature that has no business being inside any public school classroom or school library, there's more than enough other books that can be chosen from that have nothing to do with the fornicating methods of the non-heterosexuals, those types of books can be easily looked at from retail book sellers and almost any municipal library anywhere.
@@gregpaspatis9425 no need to preach to me. I ain’t no groomer
Yeah when the left tries to "de-colonize the curriculum", that makes kids curious into what's being hidden from them.
you just told me you're a 12 year old
When I was in the eighth grade my mother bought me the book Forever by Judy Blume. If you’re not familiar, it’s about losing your virginity and love. I was reading it in gym class when we we’re sitting around due to rain ..when the boy’s gym teacher (who had no say over the girls in class) took it from me and sent me to the office. They called my mother who told them, loudly, that she had bought me the book and to give it back now! That gym teacher got a big smirk from me after that! My mother was always ahead of her time- this was 46 years ago!! 😏
And now for the rest of the story.
Still a virgin?
@@guineapigzedwtf man
Your mom is free to decide what books you should read. Not what other people's kids should read.
Your mom is awesome! I love how she stood up for you! This is exactly how I want to be for my kids.
@@tcorourke2007Just for clarity, does this mean you oppose Moms for Liberty? Because it seems a bit like you were trying to defend them but... They are telling other parents what their children should not read
Genius idea. Bring parents together and show them the books. Let them decide.
Yes and if questionable material then book must be requested or reserved and not on open shelves.
And that’s the thing. Often the complainers don’t have kids in the school district where they want bans.
Genius idea. Let parents decide for their offspring and no one else.
As long as the panel is balanced
A variation on this has been attempted many times at school board meetings. A parent or a student will bring one of these books to the meeting and attempt to read excerpts from them aloud to the room. In every case, members of the school board will order the reader to stop, as such language isn't permitted at school board meetings. If you can't read these books at a school board meeting, why are they available in middle school libraries?
'Moms For Liberty' claim their goal is to put 'the right to choose' what's best for their children back in the hands of parents while simultaneously taking that right away from any parent who doesn't agree with their ideology. It's amazing how many people refuse to acknowledge their own hypocrisy.
Have you actually perused the pages of some of the books Mom's for Liberty claim are inappropriate for school age children? Start with The GayBCs by M. L. Webb, for ages 2-8. Should little kids be introduced to terms and sexual concepts they literally do not understand. In books for older students, the graphic depictions of sex, violence, pedophilia, bestiality and other subject matter are not appropriate for school children. If you want your kids schooled in this, go for it. Let the rest of our kids learn math, real biology, and language arts.
@@thewordrulesok so the Bible should be banned. Leviticus 18 for example talks about both sex and bestiality. Concerns you mentioned.
actually you’re wrong, they just don’t want it taken out of the taxpayer’s representation that they pay for these books to be available to children. It’s still ok for you to buy them for your kids yourself. You’re just being ignorant
@@thewordrules they have ZERO idea what is in those pages, they would more than likely agree with us if they did
@@thewordrulesYou have to realize that just because you associate gayness with sex, it's not automatically sexual any more than straightness is. A teacher mentioning that they have a husband at home is not considered sexual if the teacher is a woman but is if the teacher is a man? Why the double standard?
I'm going to look for those books, read them and see what this fuss is all about
Good, and then you can make your own opinion. Yay!
@@davidholaday2817 exactly I think everyone should decide what they want to read. At some point you come of age where you tell yourself “I think I need to read this and see what this fuss is all about”
Just don't show them to you young children. 😂
@@bassmanjr100 if they want to read them it’s their choice
@@kiryuandgodzillagirl So would you want your 8 year old child reading Mein Kampf?
This is the problem with small towns. They literally can go online and read the books or listen on the internet. Do they know this?
Why should anyone have to go online to read a book? Sorry pal you're kind isn't going to turn BOOKS DIGITAL like everything else has turned digital. I like my books physically and able to freely check out
@@DerrickDeitz ever heard of a printer?
"We have gay members" hits like "I can't be racist, I have a Black friend."
So true
So basically a bunch of Karens got together and now they’re telling the entire country what to do.
But you know, they are about liberty though 🙄
@@Swnsasy Actually what these women are doing is bringing attention to certain books that the LGBT cult would like to allow into children’s libraries. These books contain very detailed and sexualized images that are not appropriate for children. I implore you to research this topic more and the books that are being questioned.
"the LGBT cult " That's the only thing you got wrong because there really is no such a thing and if you understood what homosexuality actually is, you would understand that people who identify as LGBT would never try to form a "cult" or "recruit" because what is so frustrating about coming out and getting people to understand it is that being gay is not a choice. I can't make anyone gay just like I you can't make anyone straight. So this idea that there is this cult out trying to "turn kids gay" is totally absurd. You are either gay or you're not and nobody knows that better than the LGBT community.
@@jaws392 I agree with you on that aspect, I can’t stand the LGBTQ groomers either. But on this instance 60 minutes was very thorough and conclusive and the Karen’s literally couldn’t provide a Shred of evidence for why they wanna ban books. The books should be left in the library as long as they are appropriate for the grade level. Banning books for no reason and threatening people who challenged their reasoning has nothing to do with Liberty it’s pure Fascism.
You clearly have no argument, therefore you resort to name calling!😂
Bravo the people of Beaufort. This is what democracy is all about. They got together, and parents read the books that some right-wing nut group felt were harmful. I would say that anyone that tries to ban a book, must first read it. Most of the time those who want to ban do not bother to do that. This city did the courageous thing, they got together and considered all the actions and found that freedom was what was needed. I hope that the rest of the nation can take a lesson here. The only reason that people want to ban books is that they want control of our lives. Personally, I won't give them the satisfaction. One may have a right to prevent their child from reading materials, but one does NOT have a right to tell me what my child can or cannot read.
Excellent piece. It is nice to see there are people using common sense on this issue.
Wise words from a former US military, I hope his words spreads all the way to his military successors and former colleagues.
They have no argument. All schools allow parents to have their kids opt of anything you can imagine. This is just another case of if you don't like someone then you make an extremely far stretch to label them as some sort of sexual predator.
Even if they are overzealous, they have concerns about what material their kids are being exposed to. When I see the hypocrisy of books from authors like Mark Twain and Dr. Seuss coming under fire from the other side, yet any mother who expresses concerns is immediately labled a "right-wing zealot" without even listening to them, THAT is the definition of fascism.
5 books were banned. Proving them right.
@@suntzu6122 proving who right about what?
@@suntzu61225 out of 97 is not a convincing 'They were right.'
If I'm right on 5 out of 97 questions for a test, that's not just a failed test, but a SPECTACULARLY failed test.
Your logic is flawed. Fix it.
@@exDivinityFPS🎯🎯🎯
I don't want this cabal of evangelical women dictating what kind education my child gets.
Thank you for calling these shady women out, Scott. Their hypocrisy in itself is dangerous and must not be shrugged off. I don’t know if they are just bored housewives trying to publicly show off their religious zealotry, but correct me if I’m wrong, don’t many of their own children attend private religious schools, or are home schooled? Maybe we should trust our kids more, as well as ourselves as parents. Maybe we should make it a point to read some of these books along with our kids and discuss with them the content and context. Just a thought.
Here is my only statement on this issue. NYS- which has one of the best educational systems in the country, requires an at home reading program for every student over the summer. Students are provided with a list of books and they have to choose 3-7 depending on the class they are entering. I was one of these students. I am a white, upper middle-class male who grew up in a happy home in Saratoga County. I immediately saw 3 books that I read as part of our educational system. One of these is my favorite book of all time, for many reasons, “Speak”. It is told from a female student’s point of view who is dealing with REAL TRAUMA in her life. It teaches the reader to speak up when something is wrong, or if something feels like it isn’t okay. I learned more from that book than I did the entire year in class. The fact that these books are being removed is not going to change the fact that the kids in these classes are gay, or weather or not the decide to do drugs, or even when they decide to have sex. What these books do is teach them what happens at the EXTREMES and how particular things can destroy your life. You can take these books away- they are just going to be more shocked when they deal with the REAL WORLD. My suggestion is to allow them to read and explore and to ALWAYS be there to help and answer questions. This method makes you the bad guys. If that were my parents, I’d never go home and visit.
Thank you for your well-considered opinion.
That's just the kind of response needed know more than ever. If you could get through to the extreme right republicans but that's a challenge since most of them don't read past the 6th grade level.
My grandmother was a high school librarian, my mother was a preschool teacher, I always have a book in my hand. I’m so happy to be done with school. To those who have to go through this, I’m in your corner. Knowing others’ experiences is crucial and reading them is a way to get them.
This needs to stop! Enough! It amazes me how these folks want to decide what others do with their bodies or minds. If they want to keep their kids in the dark, so be it, however they do not get to decide what everyone does or reads or manages for their minds and bodies and wellness and education and the list goes on! Enough!
Children shouldn’t be exposed to pornography. How tf has this become a controversial statement?!
Why are we going backwards? Keep religion out of politics.
As a boomer who read and learned from, several of now “banned” books in my home state of Florida…I was in Middle School when Native Son and Last of the Mohicans were assigned. My niece’s high school has banned both books as well as another book that had a huge impact on me, Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle. Actually, ALL Upton Sinclair books have been removed from her library and others… can’t have books showing the horrifying results of child labor as my home state attempts to reverse child labor laws and protections! 🙄
ANYONE complaining the liberals, LGBT community, are trying to “indoctrinate” children..doesn’t understand what indoctrination or PROJECTION are.
The kids are certainly being indoctrinated-but it’s not by “liberals”, minorities or members of the LGBT community…it’s by white Christian nationalists owned and operated by corporate interests-freaked out about both demographic changes in our country and the thought that the “others” might possibly have the same freedoms and opportunities they have.
Thank you for exposing this dangerous organization
News flash. . .
Bridget Ziegler, co-founder of Moms for Liberty, along with her husband Christian Ziegler (leader of the Florida Republican Party) was in a long standing sexual threesome with another woman who recently filed a rape charge against Christian.
And this is the organization trying to censor what our children can and cant read? The hypocrisy is incredible. Dont believe me? The news story is out there folks, look it up.
It takes about 15 seconds of any adult listening to the Moms for Liberty founder to give that deep sigh Scott Pelly gave in this news piece. She is an exhausting human being.
Pelley said it was a "rare mistake" that these books were in kids schools. Did you catch that part?
That's funny because last I checked people like you are fighting to keep these books like genderqueer on all boys aren't blue in schools.
Pelley is either incredibly dishonest or horribly misinformed
Moms for Liberty families seem perfect for homeschooling. If you don't like public schools, leave. No one is begging you to stay, nor should we have to cater to you because you believe in hyperpolitical nonsense you get from social media or from rw "news". The schools have a hard enough job to do without having to deal with people who shouldn't have been issued a diploma to begin with.
@@admez2680 hyper political nonsense?
Do you have an example?
@gnlout7403 OK senator Tom Woods is on record calling LGBTQ+ "filth" he doesn't want in OK. Equating a people as such and banning books about similar subject matter aren't hard to see as related.
@@admez2680 if that's true about woods, I'd agree.
I disagree with the use of the word ban. That's an intentionally inflammatory word that does an accurately describe what's going on here. Hustler magazine is banned from libraries.
You're right that there is hyper political nonsense going on here.
I'm no fan of the very conservative members of Congress but you also can't tell me that 10 years ago we would be debating whether or not books that depict underage boys having sex in cartoon form would be acceptable in School libraries
You can have guns but not books. 😀 Interesting priorities. 😀
They think independent thinkers are more dangerous than guns.
POV populist fascism
Best comment EVER!!!!!
@MichaelKierBlalock News flash. The internet is worldwide and he can talk about the U.S. being more scared of words than guns all he wants. Go cry in your beer if you have a problem with that.
@@billie-gta8there’s an amendment (the 1st one) in the constitution that allows for free speech & separation of church & state in the 🇺🇸
The books are not banned in a public library, right? A place where a parent and a child can decide and choose what controversial books children can read? The media and dems constantly clutch their pearls but won’t reveal that those books can be checked out at a public library.
My dad was a northern liberal who settled in lovely Beaufort for his later years. He would be happy to see this.
So they wanna ban a book they’ve NEVER read? 🤦♀️
“Parents want to determine what other parents’ rights are for their children to read what they want” is the most contradictory stance for a group called Moms for Liberty. 🤡
Parents are not determining what other parents should read. If Parent B wants their child to read a particular book, they're welcome to borrow it elsewhere or get it from Amazon. NOTHING is being banned here. To compare this to fascist book burnings from 100 years ago is absolutely absurd, they're not even close. And how about the left-wing school boards banning books that might have the "n" word in it. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I’m grateful for having had wonderful parents who allowed me the freedom to read widely and with few constraints. I chose appropriately and provided my children the same opportunities. They are intelligent, thoughtful, caring people - exactly what this world needs. All of us read “banned” books and support other people having the FREEDOM to do so as well.
I feel it's when other children do not have "wonderful parents" to provide guidance or "few contraints" is when we go awry.
@@orazor777nah, when we go awry is when we let a few hyper conservative wing nuts choose for everyone.
@@orazor777if you only learn from two people you don’t learn much.
Aren't you special!
@axileus9327What’s appropriate for some people you may not agree with. It’s not your job to tell them what to do.
Here’s the thing. You may be afraid of what’s written in some books. Others are not, and have open conversations with their children on why something is controversial. These kids learn that communication is the way to understanding, and that your way - of preventing any discussion at all - is the way of ignorance. Some of these conversations are tough. But they’re important.
Clearly you just want the easy way out. You don’t want these conversations. You’re afraid your views will not hold up to a child’s scrutiny because they are incredibly fragile positions. You are the problem.
"Youre being evasive"
This was SO refreshing to hear. Too many journalists let the ppl they interview avoid questions
The schools and libraries are being bullied
The moms looked like fools when Pelley questioned them...lol. They are full of bs and he called them out. If you don't want your kids to read certain books..cool. that's a personal decision..BUT when you try to tell others the same .that is CONTROL.
Its common sense to not want to expose young children to sexually explicit things. The better question is: Why is there such a fervent defense of making sure children have access to this type of stuff?
@@SPQR7117 These book are for young adults. What book specifically do you not want young adults reading? I encourage my children to read anything.
@@SPQR7117 I need the name or names of the books and authors that YOU have READ that you find sexually explicit.
@@Jinxy-h8wyou’re playing semantics. This isn’t a Republican censoring sexually explicit material that represents a lifestyle they don’t agree with. I’m bi-sexual and not conservative and yet I don’t see why adults want children to have access to it in a school setting.
Let them have access at a library where it’s free range. At a school ALL parents, even those whose views I disagree with, shouldn’t have to worry about what their kids read. Let them be kids.
@@CJ.S-v3y let's kids be kids. I agree..but at the same time some kids are gay.. lesbian..bi etc. Some kids are black..Brown etc. So WHY can't these kids get to read about someone like them?! Once again..if it is a book YOU don't want your child to read. Cool..but you don't get to decide for others.
Moms for Liberty, anti gay, anti black, anti Liberty, anti Democracy
How about anti-parenting rights for those that choose to be responsible parents?
I love the Beaufort solution---if you want to have a voice in deciding what books belong in a school classroom/library, then you need to read the books and sit down and discuss them with volunteer readers/ librarians/teachers before deciding whether any book needs to be removed for sexual or violent content. No one can then rely on a book review or something they read on-line about the book because the others will notice and call them out on it. As for the "rogue teachers" comment, thank God for the "rogue teachers" I had, including my second grade teacher, a first year teacher who insisted that I be allowed to choose books from all the library shelves instead of just from a selection of "age-appropriate" picture books selected for my grade. I was way past that reading level, she knew it, and she argued my way into free access to all the books in the library for me. I'm now a professor of English. I wonder if the Moms of Liberty would accuse her and my other "rogue teachers" of "grooming" me because of the career path I chose.
@axileus9327Isn't that for parents to decide for their own child?
I'm willing to bet that there weren't despicable, sexually explicit books in your library when you were a young kid. It's a new phenomenon brought about by the neo Marxist, post modern ideologues. There's more than enough evidence to verify it if you wanted to do some unbiased research into the matter.
We're you in elementary grades looking at pictures of sexual positions & reading descriptive instructions on how to engage In sexual acts/behaviors?
@@jjmc1511 that's like 2 of the books. Not all 97. And some just feature LGBTQ characters that don't engage in any sexual behavior. Just exist. And that's supposedly too much.
@@clintm7274 2 books is 2 books too many. The sexual exploitation of children is a strange hill to die on dude- do better.
As for lgbtqiaxyz123eflhi&T%O$#R characters in books- that's among the most absurd ideas in literature for children. Suggesting they "just exist" is euphemistic language designed to shield the true intent: exposing children to abnormal lifestyles.
I'm a 9th grade high school teacher in Houston, Texas (29 years). One of the things people do not understand is that libraries are not like the libraries of the past. Few kids go to the library and peruse books and checks a stack. It's rare. With the advent of cellphones, TH-cam and all the other stuff, kids prefer to be on their phones and not reading books. Most kids ONLY read the books assigned byt heir teachers.
Our library has been dismantled and the books dispersed to all content area classrooms. All have books shelves loaded with books. The library space is now used for testing, project based classes , and all sorts of other stuff. It was sad, but it's a sign of the times.
As for the content of some of those books....I think some of it may be over the top but I'm a realist and know that anything you want to keep your child from reading he/she has already seen it on a cellphone screen/TH-cam.
My 17 year old has read some great books in her AP English classes I'm sure activist would object to. She's fine, we talk a lot and she's going off to college in 6 months.
Which school do you teach at? I went to Charles H. Milby High School from 1988 to 1990
Good for you Mom (or Dad). Sounds like you raised a good level headed young person.
@@MultiTimelady Lee HS
I agree that reading traditional paper books is becoming outdated, but I hope you don’t fret about reading becoming outdated in general. The formats have simply changed and that’s OK. I came from a home where I never saw my parents read, but I’ve always been an avid reader. Just 2 of my 3 kids are readers - my middle son who isn’t really a fan of fiction, pours over the news (written articles) on a daily basis. People who are predisposed to enjoying reading, including those who had reading parents and those who didn’t, will always be readers - whether they’re reading off paper or a screen doesn’t matter.
@@traceyhenry472 I agree. It's no so much that it's becoming outdated but traditional reading time is competing with forces that are difficult for teachers to compete with: social media & video games .
This year out school banned cellphones except int the cafeteria at lunch. Kids have to put them in their backpacks....and leave their backpacks at the back of the room.
Admin totally backs teachers up so it's less and less a problem. I rarely see a kid try and retrieve his phone.
This has been a game changer in getting kids to focus their attention and read in class.
"Indoctrination" starts with Stand,put your hand over your heart and Pledge Allegience,....next comes "we live in the greatest country on Earth"........... and free speech can be hateful so lets be adult bullies..............
These Moms seem to have plenty of extra time to home school.
They're the embodiment of privilege, and like anyone who's got too much privilege they can't appreciate their blessings. They have to use it as rationale that they should control the rest of us.
They probably don't want to be around their children that much.
I find it interesting that they are concerned about their children being groomed but that would mean they never taught their children anything. If they believe simply reading a book will turn your child gay, then teach your child what you think is right. We expect the schools to babysit our children but have zero input in their thought process.
Their children would be far better off. The majority of public schools are trash.
@@bassmanjr100 why do you say that?
My parents allowed me to read whatever books I wanted. My parents never told me that I couldn’t read a particular book. My mother and I have read books together. She never stopped me from reading books.
"My parents never told me that I couldn't read a particular book." And when did they or you even consider starting to give a look at any pornographic gay literary works, the odds are more than likely that your parents and you never even gave a seconds thought to so much as even the mere existence of any of that type of literature in the first place, except that in the sickeningly "woke" America in the 2020s, in fact these sorts of books do actually exist inside of pub. schools and need to be removed at any cost.
So you could read hustler or anarchist cook book?
Mine either. I read whatever I wanted.
@@JJ-nu8qiPlayboy and Anarchists Cookbook, yes
Idk your age, I am 49. I also was allowed to read books and I did. I can say in all of my school years, we never had all this crap about gender and trans...that's adult things,not children reading
it says a lot that the moms for liberty agenda couldnt even get a foothold in such a widely conservative area.. its reassuring to see level-headed people come together and actually take the time to work through an issue like this in a civil manner for the sake of the kiddos 😇 we need more of this and less of the ridiculous women ranting at a school board meeting just to hear their own voice lmao outrage politics 🤣 looks like moms 4 liberty earned themselves a hate group designation.. dont even get me started on the hypocrisy of that co-founder 🤣🤣
Yet the fundamental principle was confirmed. Five books were indeed pulled. So it's a matter of quibbling over which books are deemed inappropriate. Rational people agree _some_ are inappropriate. 60 Minutes ignored the ramifications. Moms for Liberty are not totally in the wrong.
Moms for Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler admitted to having 3 way sexual affairs after her husband was accused of rape. Individual members have been exposed as sex offenders and acolytes of the Proud Boys. This is the extremist far-right group deciding what books are "appropriate" for reading. They were in the wrong.
@@donjindraYes they are cuz they are controlling what others can/can’t read. If you want to put blinders on your child, go ahead, but leave the rest of us out of it.
@@romanborris7919 They are not controlling what others can read. That's a phony argument. Any parent is free to acquire these books elsewhere. Btw, I'll bet my sons had better access to books than yours, if you have any. I have a library of thousands of books on all topics.
@@donjindra Those 5 books being banned = IRREFUTABLE PROOF that moms for liberty were right. That there WAS bullshxt being peddled to kids.
Mom for liberty should be listed as hate group
The threats of having librarians arrested is pretty pathetic.
Thank you 60 minutes for this important story !! I am so impressed with the way this was handled . I hope it informs others dealing with bigoted , uneducated , fear mongers that there is a way to triumph by affording parents options and engaging in community involvement and discussion .
I told my granddaughters, if they tell you not to read a book, you should read it and make up your own mind. Think for yourself, dont let others think for you.
Brilliant story! Very proud of this town and the people there. Congratulations on being a shining example to us all.
But here a thought…you don’t want your kid to read it then don’t have your kid read it…but if others want to read it then let them. You don’t have to parent other people’s kids….
Im so happy to see educators fighting for books to stay in the classroom. America is turning so dystopian.
Some Florida school children have no idea who Maya Angelou is.
They’ve never heard of her
There is no good reason why they should.
That’s crazy!! I grew up in Iowa & in 10th grade English we read “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings” & I loved it & I loved her has an author & poet!!
Which children? Do you know their names. Can you provide receipts?
okay my little grand wizard@@donjindra
They don’t even know who is Shakespeare.
The statements in the final few minutes of this report are worth repeating everywhere. Thank you.
DANG.DANG.DANG.
QUICK TO BAN BOOKS BUT NOT GUNS...WTF
Knowledge is kryptonite to MAGA
I'm pretty sure kids can't bring guns to school.
Thank you Beufort, SC. Common sense and civility and knowledge fighting intoleranse, and evil.
Thank you for covering this story
When she said “we have gay members” he should have used Dan Savage’s suggestion: “can I interview them?”
I wonder how many of the people wanting to ban books failed English in high school because they had to do a book report.
You know you are on the wrong side of history if you think banning books is a good idea.
The following book MUST be banned from EVERY school library and home on planet earth. Why is this? Because it has every filthy, dirty, disgusting, vile word in it! What is the name of this book?… Websters dictionary… and every dictionary out there! 😮
I grew up in Florida and I am ashamed of these Moms for Liberty and Desantis. They do not reflect the opinions of most educated people in Florida. Hats off to the people in Beaufort County, South Carolina for actually reading and discussing the books on the books on the proposed banned list. As for Moms for Liberty, I doubt any of them have read a book or studied literature.
They tried this in the 80’s with putting warning labels on heavy metal albums. That made kids only want the album’s WITH the labels. You can’t eradicate ideas ✌️🇺🇸
Having them in public is fine, putting them in children's libraries at school is another.
The only thing the PMRC did was boost the profits of the music they labeled...
Great piece. My parents always allowed me to read whatever I was interested in and we would talk about it afterwards. Now I have a daughter who loves reading and feels supported in her choices in life and with reading. Ignorance is the enemy of real liberty. I’ve read a lot of those books they tried to ban and they’re excellent. These “Liberty Moms” should go look up in a Dictionary (another Book!) what Liberty actually means.
Why are you advocating books that encourage teen suicide and books that encourage mass shootings to be in public school libraries?
A good test for having a book in school is to determine if it can be read out loud at a school board meeting.
Or on the radio.... or act it out exactly on a TH-cam video
So that would be YOUR test determining what YOUR children can read. Stay in your lane and quit trying to decide what MY child can read.
@@nancykirkendall1415Truth. I'd have no problem reading anything out loud at a school board meeting. What kind of litmus test is that?
The Bible would not survive if Song of Songs was read
@@bigglyfabulous That's a lack of shame and conscious.
Mom's for liberty are breaking us up not pulling us together.
It's something that'll probably never end, a lot of it is both a power play and paranoia. Sadly, most people these days don't care if they're being contradictory on their morals, all they care about is control. At I'll give it some leeway since it shows that not everybody that's conservative is equally a far-right extremist, but it doesn't help how the rest of them make jackasses out of themselves.
Im glad i didnt have one of these psychopsths for mom when i was in school lmao how pathetic & embarrassing
Guaranteed their children are looking forward to the day they cut ties with them and never look back.
The word "ban" gets misused here and in the greater discussion. All libraries are a curation and those parents, like myself, that disagree with some of these graphic novels simply want a better curation. It's that simple. No one is stopping the consumption of these titles. If you feel it's appropriate for your child to read Playboy or Hustler, I disagree with you, however you are free to purchases those of your own accord but they damn sure don't need to be in a school library. This is not a new concept.
However, these books are not Playboy and Hustler. They are mostly YA novels specifically written for a teen audience (with a few exceptions, such as Coleen Hoover's books - that's an entirely different discussion). Now, of course if you feel that your children shouldn't be reading those books, you are free to stop them from doing so. But it is not your right to BAN (yes, ban) other kids from reading books that were meant to be read by high schoolers. I am a big fan of the volunteer-reading-group solution they describe here, because it is so easy to read a headline on the internet and then think you know all about a certain book. Be curious, not judgemental, about the things your children are interested in reading.
@@karolineCPH So any book that's not in the finite collection that is a school library is by your definition a BAN? we can't gloss over this point.
@@Tusk_Tact there's a difference between a book being deemed inappropriate from the beginning by a qualified librarian (e.g., a school librarian not putting in an order for 50 Shades of Grey for obvious reasons), and having a librarian's choice being overridden by outside forces. PEN America has a great FAQ page about the term "book ban", I would suggest reading through it. But I honestly think that the term itself is not that important in this discussion. The question is, is it ethical to remove access to certain books for ALL kids, or should school libraries just implement a parental consent-solution (which is already a thing in many states)? Is it reasonable to argue that kids will always have access to banned/removed books if they want to read them? I would say no - a lot of kids don't live in a reasonable distance from a public library and don't have the money to buy new books.
Wow, now librarians [& teachers] are "groomers." REALLY! Do they know how long it takes to become a teacher or librarian? Years & masters degrees. Also, 1-2 years of training to certify , states differ as to training periods-but EVERY certified librarian has a masters degree [similar for teachers]. They choose books based on learning and encouraging ideas; accessing and providing access to information, both true information and differences of opinion. The job of a librarian is not to cull information, but to allow opportunities to library users to USE information, not dictate use. By the way, how long have these women trained to be 'mothers'?
Hey sally if they were wrong why were FIVE different books BANNED?
Thats 5x they were proven right with irrefutable evidence.
You obviously have no clue about the various inappropriate books that have been put in school libraries. Zero clue.
@@MichaelDamianPHD Well, let us say that you do not agree with my opinions --fine. Don't read what you don't want to. Every school has opt out forms, and most teachers are sensitive to the community. But, please don't decide for my children what is appropriate, particularly in a library setting. A librarian's training provides more than clues, by the way.
@@MichaelDamianPHD Those 5 books having to be banned is PROOF of this.
IRREFUTABLE proof those mothers for liberty were right.
Hitler and Stalin also banned and burned books.
IKR !?!? wait until you find out who the new president of the American Library association wants to do. Smh
My parents believed in freedom of intellectual inquiry. So glad I grew up in a free home, free town, free state and a free country.
This is just an excuse to promote bigotry.
So you won't mind if we put copies of Mein Kampf in schools?
Well presented piece. The evasiveness is typical for those who scream from the bully pulpit for their own ego. The easy - and already in place - compromise of sending the form to school saying that YOUR child must have your permission before checking out books is ignored and is trying to instead get the forced replacement of banning those books for everyone.
Wait until M4L releases the full interview....
And 60 Minutes refusing to comment about their own production isn’t evasive? Narrate over them and refuse to answer questions is the epitome of controlling the narrative.
The interviewer was engaging in a hit piece. The books that are banned, or should be banned, are pretty disgusting and inappropriate for young people. Have you checked on any of these books yourself? The ideology that these two ladies SEEMED to evade answering about is the DEI, anti-racism, trans ideology, and hyper-sexualization that is currently in vogue.
@@wilburt57OHHHHH PLEASE.......He gave them plenty of chances to explain themselves. They can't anawer the questions put to them.
@axileus9327 I understand what you're saying but lets be honest here. They are trying to push THEIR anti agenda out there and using the "kids" to get people's attention. I mean where does it stop? Next it will be colleges where students are of age.
"Let's ban stuff we don't like" -- Moms for LIBERTY
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Get a clue Jeff
@@MichaelDamianPHDmom's for liberties are not known for a running a book club. I have feeling reading is not their strong suit.
Like putting a PHD title in your name just means they give titles to any one.
Seems more like Moms AGAINST LIBERTY...
Moms for Liberty? More like Karens for Chaos.
If they were wrong 0 books would have been banned. You must have missed this fact.
@@suntzu6122Try grasping at some more straws.
It's ironic that one of the leaders of Moms for Fascism is named, "Justice."
That said, good for Beaufort for remembering that we live in a Democracy! That statement towards the end by the School Board member, a Republican (!!!) is beautiful!
What's the definition of fascism ?
@@oceania2385You have mistaken me for a dictionary.
You may find what you're looking for in one.
Next, you're going to ask me, "What is a woman?"
@@polemius01 I guess I mistook you for someone that thinks words have meaning.. My mistake.
Every thing they say these books should banned for is in the Bible. Don't hear them demanding it be banned.
They should call themselves “Moms for Ignorance”…
Judging from some of the stories that have been in the news lately, Moms for Liberty needs to clean up their own messes before they can tell other people what to do.
Apparently, "Thrupples" aren't against the MfL mandate...
Mums for liberty are just another ignorant group of people who live in fear of anything different to them. Education is so important & America is sadly failing to defend this very basic human right amongst many others.
They should be banned. You should be more concerned about the fact that you shared one side. Moms for Liberty are not the enemy! Read those books and you will see how much they hurt our children.
If I find all religious texts to be offensive then they should be banned too.
Amazing how these "people" can unite with a passion to band books but when it comes to banning high powered assault guns that are killing kids in school - omg it is so complicated to do that!
I am the parent that got the call about a book my 8th grader was reading for SSR. It was In Cold Blood By Truman Capote. I simply told her teacher that "yes I knew she was reading it, I gave it to her. It's an American classic" Both my kids were advanced readers. Because I was not. This was almost 20 years ago. So glad I live in California where we have bans on book bans.
Back in my day we read Shakespeare.
Yeah no sex there.🧐/s/
Meanwhile, the book they want everyone to read, the Bible, was banned in Utah due to offensive content!
Very well said by that man at the end. Diversity breeds tolerance. We need more of that.
"hey kids i did a DNA test!"
"oh what did it say?"
"100% pure blooded Karen"
Telling a kid not to do something is a sure way to get them to do it.
I was stationed in Beaufort for 4 years. It was and hopefully still is a very respectful community, I sometimes miss going to the waterfront and gazing at the river.
Beaufort South Carolina hardly needs to ban books.
Our education system is third rate to other countries. (some) parents expect a teacher to parent.
Students pay the ultimate price.
Moms for liberty seem to think their views are the only ones that matter. If you don’t want to allow your children to read the books. You have no right to say what other parents allow their children to read.