Thank you for this informative video. But I would be remiss if I didn't mention how you consistently afford dignity and respect tto the memory of the late paramount chief! Thank you!!!
My mother just mother passed Mar 2nd 2021 she told of her tribe I'm looking more and more into this she told me exactly these truths since child hood sinaka
Family lore has us going back to him. I inherited my mother's family ancestry research that has been done over some 170 (?) years. It's just interesting.
He is my 12th great grandfather through my grandmother on my fathers side named Ruth Curry. Line is Curry Redman -Redmond Elkins Pettus Martin Patawomeck - husband of Pocahontas Powhatan Probably a few thousand like us. :)
@@Emmari417 Yes she did, a native husband Kocoum Patawomeck who likely passed away when she was young, and then later she married an English man John Rolfe and traveled back with him to England. Kocoum is related to me 10th great grandfather but not John Rolfe. There are various historical disputes about the names of Kocoum and Pocahontas, and her father. Some may be added titles along with their name. Chief Powhatan's real name may have been Wahunsenacah and Powhatan his title.
We're all related Cleopatra Powhatan and Pocahontas are both my 8th great Aunt and there father The one this video is about is my 9th great grandfather her brother Wahunsonacock Chief Powhatan Tashapiathacho is my 8th great grandfather
Thank you for your question! Paramount Chief Powhatan used tribute in a variety of ways. He used it to support his lifestyle, since he had a large family and many warriors around him. Tribute would have also been redistributed to local and district weroances, and priests after it was collected to support them. It was also used to supply banquets for special occasions and meetings with emissaries and other important people visiting his capital. It could also be used to "hire" warriors or reward members of his Paramount Chiefdom. Many Powhatan people would grow only enough corn throughout the year to pay their tribute and feed their families through the winter, but it was considered a predictable aspect of Powhatan life.
I just received a message from Roots tech over the weekend that Pocahontas was my 11th great grandmother through my dad's side. I have Munsee on my mom's side. 😀
Here are a few quotes regarding Powhatan men and whether they had beards or not, that come from the volume Jamestown Narratives -- “The savages bear their years well, for when we were at Pamonkie’s we saw a savage by their report was above eightscore years of age. His eyes were sunk into his head, having never a tooth in his mouth, his hair all grey, with a reasonable big beard which was as white as any snow. It is a miracle to see a savage have any hair on their faces. I never saw, read, nor heard any have the like before.” George Percy Observations gathered out of a discourse (Narratives, p96-7) ”Master [Edward] Wingfield saith … He never saw any of them gross or bald. They would have beards but that they pluck away the hairs.” Quoted in Purchas His Pilgrimage (Narratives, p202) “Here [Moraughtacund] we encountered our old friend Mosco, a lusty savage of Wighcocomoco upon the River of Patawomek. We supposed him some Frenchman’s son because he had a thick black bush beard, and the savages seldom have any at all - of which he was not a little proud to see so many of his countrymen.” John Smith The General History, Bk 3 Ch 6 (Narratives, p269)
Why didn't you show the chief Wahunsenaca (Chief Powhatan? His statue is in the same museum as his brother. You show his brother but not him??? Because it shows that he has an afro and you all are trying to hide it
John Smith and Wahunsenacawh (Powhatan) did not meet in any manner that Smith could have taken him as a prisoner; Smith in his writings never gave an account of or made the claim to have captured Powhatan. Smith did write that in 1607 he himself was captured and as a prisoner he was brought before “Opechankanough, King of Pamaunkee”. In his book The General Historie of Virginia, New England and The Summer Isles, Smith recounts events of 1608, and did write about taking Opechankanough prisoner titling the event as “Opechancanoughs device to betray Smith. Smith takes the King prisoner. {MN}” and then describing the encounter as, “The King being guarded with forty or fifty of his chiefe men, seemed kindly to appease Smiths suspicion of unkindnesse, by a great present at the doore, they intreated him to receive. This was to draw him out of the doore, where the bait was guarded with at least two hundred men, and thirty lying under a great tree (that lay thwart as a barricade) each his arrow nocked ready to shoot. The President commanded one to go see what kind of deceit this was, and to receive the present; but hee refused to doe it: yet the Gentlemen and all the rest were importunate to goe, but he would not permit them, being vexed at that Coward: and commanded Lieutenant Percie, Master West, and the rest to make good the house; Master Powell and Master Behethland he commanded to guard the doore, {MN} and in such a rage snatched the King by his long locke in the middest of his men, with his Pistoll readie bent against his brest. Thus he led the trembling King, neare dead with feare amongst all his people: who delivering the Captaine his Vambrace, Bow, and Arrowes, all his men were easily intreated to cast downe their Armes, little dreaming any durst in that manner have used their King: who then to escape him-selfe bestowed his presents in good sadnesse, and causing a great many of them come before him unarmed, holding the King by the hayre (as is sayd) he spake to them to this effect.” Smith did make the claim to have taken “Opechankanough, King of Pamaunkee” as prisoner, but he never made the claim to have taken Powhatan prisoner. www.gutenberg.org/files/56347/56347-h/56347-h.htm
No. Wahunsenacawh was in power, the “chief of chiefs” or Mamanatowick, and ruler of 30+ tribes. "Opechankanough, King of Pamaunkee", one of Wahunsenacawh's tribes.
@@JYFMuseums So the writing got it wrong. A man of war who is the chief of chiefs is what king means, so it is incorrectly giving the title of "king" to someone of lower power than the Mamanatowick. Essentially like if a Powhatan sailed to England and falsely addressed an Englishman as "king" when he was in fact just the lord of 1 moto and baley.
My great-grandfather by way of his daughter Mattachana who begot her daughter Nicketti who begot daughter Ann Hewing who married my grandpa Thomas Farmer.
Because natives didn't mate with Africans because they weren't even In America then. Also, most blacks were slaves so they were not trying to sleep with a slave. But nice attempt
Thank you for your comment! This video, in particular, was about Paramount Chief Powhatan specifically. The best description that we have of his appearance was the one shared in this video. We noticed that you posted a similar comment on a different video regarding the skin tone of Powhatan people in the 17th century. Please see your other comment for a full response, but primary sources from John Smith, William Strachey, John White, etc. all describe Powhatan people and other east coast Indigenous groups as looking different depending on with which group they were interacting. In these descriptions we can see the diversity across Native peoples along the coast as even John Smith describes them as "a colour browne" and "borne white" and "of colour yellow". Indigenous people are from all over the continent and do not all look the same.
@@JYFMuseums It was noted in William Penns Biography who btw the state of Pennsylvania was named after that when he first met the Shawano, he marveled at their differing looks. He said some were very dark, some were as light as he himself as others were differing shades of brown and could've passed for any Jew or Italian standing on a corner in downtown London.
It qas not inherited by his mother! Neither did nor dies it pass through the mother's side. Infact it was specifically passed only through the males for centuries. Typically through siblings via the eldest. For example When Wahunsenecawh died his next oldest brother become Paramount Chief. Eventually he passed and the next eldest prother Opechananough who wasnthe sub Chief of their largest subtribe Pamunkey. So while it isn't documented where he was given the paramount position from isnt documented we can assume it came from his father hemce the passing through the mans sons fromoldest to youngest. Or it could have been from his youngest uncle.
Among the Algonquian-speaking peoples of Tsenacommacah, succession to the status of weroance, was matrilineal and remains the case in many of Virginia’s indigenous communities to this day. Authority was inherited through a mother’s lineage, falling first to the mother’s eldest son, then each son. Passing through the brothers, authority would then fall to the eldest daughter, then each daughter as weroansqua. Once authority had passed through siblings it would fall to the children of the eldest daughter. Once Wahunsenacawh and his siblings inherited their authority and ruled, that authority would be inherited by his nephews then nieces, rather than his own children. At the time of the English arrival, Wahunsenacawh was the mamanatowick, and his brother Opechancanough was the weroance of the Pamunkey. At the death of Wahunsenacawh, his brother Opichipam and then Opechancanough inherited mamanatowick.
Simplistic biography. "Powhatan" would not have been a mere nickname but more like a title, imo, since it was the name of his town. HIs political alliances with other Tribes were often formed by marriage-Powhatan had something like 20 wives, from different Tribes. Pocahontas' real name was Matoaka. Her half sister, Matachana, was a Shawnee, because her mother was Shawnee. The English called her "Cleopatra the Shawano". She was my ancestor. One of my other ancestors was black, an escaped slave from Virginia, who married a Shawnee warrior. I'm pretty sure she was Gullah, since they were brought to Virginia and other coastal areas to grow rice, about which they had extensive knowledge and experience.
Im the principal Chief of The Powhatan Nation Of American Indians. I appreciate this video and your dedication for researching factual history.
Forgot copper color in his description 🪶🏹🤲🏾🦊🪓🦅🦃🧬
Ly’in BASTARDS!
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@@og-greenmachine8623 lesson of Haiti by William Luther Pierce
This land we live on has Great history of ALL AMERICAN TRIBES. And I will always have the highest respect for their way of life.
Thank you for this informative video. But I would be remiss if I didn't mention how you consistently afford dignity and respect tto the memory of the late paramount chief! Thank you!!!
My mother just mother passed Mar 2nd 2021 she told of her tribe I'm looking more and more into this she told me exactly these truths since child hood sinaka
Family lore has us going back to him. I inherited my mother's family ancestry research that has been done over some 170 (?) years. It's just interesting.
I was learning about Powhatan at school.
He is my 11th Great Grandfather. Thank you for your nice summary of his life.
He is my 12th great grandfather through my grandmother on my fathers side named Ruth Curry.
Line is Curry
Redman -Redmond
Elkins
Pettus
Martin
Patawomeck - husband of Pocahontas Powhatan
Probably a few thousand like us. :)
@@chuck_howard didn’t Pocahontas have 2 husbands? Because I know I got her blood line from her husband with the last name Rolfe 😅
@@chuck_howard also, more like 100,000!!!!
@@Emmari417 Yes she did, a native husband Kocoum Patawomeck who likely passed away when she was young, and then later she married an English man John Rolfe and traveled back with him to England. Kocoum is related to me 10th great grandfather but not John Rolfe. There are various historical disputes about the names of Kocoum and Pocahontas, and her father. Some may be added titles along with their name. Chief Powhatan's real name may have been Wahunsenacah and Powhatan his title.
@@chuck_howard oh ok!
My 12th great grandfather.❤️
same here
He is my 13th great grandfather
Hey there distant cousins. He's my 13th great grandfather.
We’re related YAY!
My 13th,
I’m related to Cleopatra Powhatan so I’m a direct descendant of Chief Powhatan
I’m related to her as well! Dug around to find it on ancestry
We're all related Cleopatra Powhatan and Pocahontas are both my 8th great Aunt and there father The one this video is about is my 9th great grandfather her brother Wahunsonacock Chief Powhatan Tashapiathacho is my 8th great grandfather
That’s dooooopeee!!
He is my 11th Great Grandfather
Do we have a sense of what Powhatan did with the tributes sent to him?
Thank you for your question! Paramount Chief Powhatan used tribute in a variety of ways. He used it to support his lifestyle, since he had a large family and many warriors around him. Tribute would have also been redistributed to local and district weroances, and priests after it was collected to support them. It was also used to supply banquets for special occasions and meetings with emissaries and other important people visiting his capital. It could also be used to "hire" warriors or reward members of his Paramount Chiefdom. Many Powhatan people would grow only enough corn throughout the year to pay their tribute and feed their families through the winter, but it was considered a predictable aspect of Powhatan life.
Lumbe a black Indian.
@@missvida6251 What did he tell her?
@@rachdarastrix5251 I meant sold lol!
@@thomasgoins1874 Lumbee isn't Indian at all. They are just black and white mixed
I just received a message from Roots tech over the weekend that Pocahontas was my 11th great grandmother through my dad's side.
I have Munsee on my mom's side.
😀
She is my great aunt. My great grandmother was Cleopatra :) we have Cherokee and Shawnee that runs on my mothers side of the family.
I'm Powhatan and 11 generations from Pocahontas
My 11th great grandfather. Hi cousins!
Did the Powhatans' grow beards ?
Here are a few quotes regarding Powhatan men and whether they had beards or not, that come from the volume Jamestown Narratives --
“The savages bear their years well, for when we were at Pamonkie’s we saw a savage by their report was above eightscore years of age. His eyes were sunk into his head, having never a tooth in his mouth, his hair all grey, with a reasonable big beard which was as white as any snow. It is a miracle to see a savage have any hair on their faces. I never saw, read, nor heard any have the like before.” George Percy Observations gathered out of a discourse (Narratives, p96-7)
”Master [Edward] Wingfield saith … He never saw any of them gross or bald. They would have beards but that they pluck away the hairs.” Quoted in Purchas His Pilgrimage (Narratives, p202)
“Here [Moraughtacund] we encountered our old friend Mosco, a lusty savage of Wighcocomoco upon the River of Patawomek. We supposed him some Frenchman’s son because he had a thick black bush beard, and the savages seldom have any at all - of which he was not a little proud to see so many of his countrymen.” John Smith The General History, Bk 3 Ch 6 (Narratives, p269)
@@JYFMuseums Thank You.
GREAT grandparents
Why didn't you show the chief Wahunsenaca (Chief Powhatan? His statue is in the same museum as his brother. You show his brother but not him??? Because it shows that he has an afro and you all are trying to hide it
Also unlike in that movie King Wahunsenacawh was actually captured in battle by John Smith not the other way around.
John Smith and Wahunsenacawh (Powhatan) did not meet in any manner that Smith could have taken him as a prisoner; Smith in his writings never gave an account of or made the claim to have captured Powhatan.
Smith did write that in 1607 he himself was captured and as a prisoner he was brought before “Opechankanough, King of Pamaunkee”.
In his book The General Historie of Virginia, New England and The Summer Isles, Smith recounts events of 1608, and did write about taking Opechankanough prisoner titling the event as “Opechancanoughs device to betray Smith. Smith takes the King prisoner. {MN}” and then describing the encounter as, “The King being guarded with forty or fifty of his chiefe men, seemed kindly to appease Smiths suspicion of unkindnesse, by a great present at the doore, they intreated him to receive. This was to draw him out of the doore, where the bait was guarded with at least two hundred men, and thirty lying under a great tree (that lay thwart as a barricade) each his arrow nocked ready to shoot. The President commanded one to go see what kind of deceit this was, and to receive the present; but hee refused to doe it: yet the Gentlemen and all the rest were importunate to goe, but he would not permit them, being vexed at that Coward: and commanded Lieutenant Percie, Master West, and the rest to make good the house; Master Powell and Master Behethland he commanded to guard the doore, {MN} and in such a rage snatched the King by his long locke in the middest of his men, with his Pistoll readie bent against his brest. Thus he led the trembling King, neare dead with feare amongst all his people: who delivering the Captaine his Vambrace, Bow, and Arrowes, all his men were easily intreated to cast downe their Armes, little dreaming any durst in that manner have used their King: who then to escape him-selfe bestowed his presents in good sadnesse, and causing a great many of them come before him unarmed, holding the King by the hayre (as is sayd) he spake to them to this effect.”
Smith did make the claim to have taken “Opechankanough, King of Pamaunkee” as prisoner, but he never made the claim to have taken Powhatan prisoner.
www.gutenberg.org/files/56347/56347-h/56347-h.htm
@@JYFMuseums So Wahunsenacawh wasn't in power at the time Opechankanough was. And be brought the prisoner TO him. Noted, thank you.
No. Wahunsenacawh was in power, the “chief of chiefs” or Mamanatowick, and ruler of 30+ tribes. "Opechankanough, King of Pamaunkee", one of Wahunsenacawh's tribes.
@@JYFMuseums So the writing got it wrong. A man of war who is the chief of chiefs is what king means, so it is incorrectly giving the title of "king" to someone of lower power than the Mamanatowick. Essentially like if a Powhatan sailed to England and falsely addressed an Englishman as "king" when he was in fact just the lord of 1 moto and baley.
@@JYFMuseums Did I get that right?
Yoooo It's my Gpapa!
My 9th Great Grandfather
Matachatta Cleopatra Shawano Powhatan is my 9th Great Grandmother.
@@visualtimekeeper
Wow...
Where did you get that information?
My 9th great via the Bass and Anderson families
I'm an Anderson descendant also.
I'm a descendant of William Basse son Keziah Daughter of Robin King of the Nansemond
My great-grandfather by way of his daughter Mattachana who begot her daughter Nicketti who begot daughter Ann Hewing who married my grandpa Thomas Farmer.
He’s my great grandpa :) lol
Of course they were human.
Notice the history of natives as told by Anglo. English descriptions can't be relied upon.
Because natives didn't mate with Africans because they weren't even In America then. Also, most blacks were slaves so they were not trying to sleep with a slave. But nice attempt
Disney is not reality
It's not supposed to be reality.
I'm supposed to be a distant relative, according to Ancestry. My height is 6'6im 58 years old
They were talking about me ,
Read way to fast to understand readily. Slow down, lend respect.
My ancestors
Also according to records these people were of black skinned. Disappointed you didn't share directly or via inference.
Thank you for your comment! This video, in particular, was about Paramount Chief Powhatan specifically. The best description that we have of his appearance was the one shared in this video.
We noticed that you posted a similar comment on a different video regarding the skin tone of Powhatan people in the 17th century. Please see your other comment for a full response, but primary sources from John Smith, William Strachey, John White, etc. all describe Powhatan people and other east coast Indigenous groups as looking different depending on with which group they were interacting. In these descriptions we can see the diversity across Native peoples along the coast as even John Smith describes them as "a colour browne" and "borne white" and "of colour yellow". Indigenous people are from all over the continent and do not all look the same.
@@JYFMuseums If by "black skinned" she means African, this would not be true, since the DNA is different between black Africans and American Indians
@@JYFMuseums It was noted in William Penns Biography who btw the state of Pennsylvania was named after that when he first met the Shawano, he marveled at their differing looks. He said some were very dark, some were as light as he himself as others were differing shades of brown and could've passed for any Jew or Italian standing on a corner in downtown London.
We STOLL are.
Did you see the thumbnail?
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Why does the statue look European?Dna testing is the Key.I suspect they were African looking folk.
It qas not inherited by his mother! Neither did nor dies it pass through the mother's side. Infact it was specifically passed only through the males for centuries. Typically through siblings via the eldest. For example When Wahunsenecawh died his next oldest brother become Paramount Chief. Eventually he passed and the next eldest prother Opechananough who wasnthe sub Chief of their largest subtribe Pamunkey. So while it isn't documented where he was given the paramount position from isnt documented we can assume it came from his father hemce the passing through the mans sons fromoldest to youngest. Or it could have been from his youngest uncle.
Among the Algonquian-speaking peoples of Tsenacommacah, succession to the status of weroance, was matrilineal and remains the case in many of Virginia’s indigenous communities to this day. Authority was inherited through a mother’s lineage, falling first to the mother’s eldest son, then each son. Passing through the brothers, authority would then fall to the eldest daughter, then each daughter as weroansqua. Once authority had passed through siblings it would fall to the children of the eldest daughter. Once Wahunsenacawh and his siblings inherited their authority and ruled, that authority would be inherited by his nephews then nieces, rather than his own children.
At the time of the English arrival, Wahunsenacawh was the mamanatowick, and his brother Opechancanough was the weroance of the Pamunkey. At the death of Wahunsenacawh, his brother Opichipam and then Opechancanough inherited mamanatowick.
Simplistic biography. "Powhatan" would not have been a mere nickname but more like a title, imo, since it was the name of his town. HIs political alliances with other Tribes were often formed by marriage-Powhatan had something like 20 wives, from different Tribes. Pocahontas' real name was Matoaka. Her half sister, Matachana, was a Shawnee, because her mother was Shawnee. The English called her "Cleopatra the Shawano". She was my ancestor.
One of my other ancestors was black, an escaped slave from Virginia, who married a Shawnee warrior. I'm pretty sure she was Gullah, since they were brought to Virginia and other coastal areas to grow rice, about which they had extensive knowledge and experience.
Ty for that information. More and more I'm finding out who I am...
Father of Pocahontas.
ggggggggggggggggrand dad
I AM Ari'Eh Yochananolon Ha'Aretz, LYon Is YAHuAH is Gracious Behold The Land,The Land Behold Gracious Is YAHuAH The LYon
My 12th great grandfather ❤