Keep in mind, the higher zen climbs, the less MMR he gains, like in a range from 1-6, and he loses from a range of 8-13 Around 1:3 ratio give or take. And if you are SSL, your difference to ZEN is the same as Diamond3. Now scale this with a diamond that gains 10-15mmr vs ZEN who gains 1-6mmr.
@@Official_Solok yes but it scales because of difference in skill, the game determines that the 2500-2600s he was vsing are only good enough to beat him say 1/4 games, the diamonds gaining/losing 9mmr are playing people equally as good at 2s i.e. it’s not a bigger skill gap because of the smaller mmr gains, the elo system already takes that into account
Thanks for making a video on this. At one point, the mmr difference from Zen to 2nd place was the same difference as 2nd the 48th place. He's kind of unreal
Look at the goal at 4:20 nobody else in the game is doing this, obviously any player can score this open net but zen is flip cancelling to change the angle of his car so that he can more efficiently power slide into a position that allows him to use his momentum to air roll into a power shot. It’s just disgusting what this guy does.
I don't know where you saw a flip cancel in there. He sideflips, starts a slight horizontal rotation (just before landing) that he maintains with a powerdrift on landing and then directional air roll jumps and flicks. The move is still really great, but no fcancel.
No matter what people say, I agree that zen is still the best player in the world. He’s a kid so ofc he’s going to make mistakes, and causes scenes. But that doesn’t change his ability on the field and his impact. His 2s record shows that clearly. The hate is so forced 💀
People hate him? I don’t know where ur at but I always see Zen in the top 2 of best current player all the time Anyways, I’m a zen glazer, and I believe that he will eventually become the goat, if MM is the modern day Turbo, then Zen is the modern day mechanical prodigy, like jstn back then except I don’t know I feel like maybe his adaption will be timeless
@@alejandroayvar5305as a fellow zen glazer I hope he can but I honestly think he became too good for his own good, I mean an undefeated debut. Anything at all after that is gonna be seen as less I’m sure that affects him mentally
He's hated cuz of his personality. Same with Vatira and MonkeyMoon since they have this superiority complex and arrogance. The only thing about it is that they can back it up which is also annoying for other nations that face them
@@alejandroayvar5305 honestly I don't hate him. I don't like him as a player just because of the competitive part of the esport, but really I feel most of the dislike stems from the fact that people have puffed him up and way overrated this person from the moment he joined. Now obviously he's good, but people calling him the goat off rip was way too forced and the drastic fall off him and his team took the season after has only proven that he isn't just some instant win switch. I don't think he will ever be a unanimous "goat" I think he will probably be among the great legends along with squishy, Garrett, jstn, turbo, kaydop, kro, kuxir, and monkey moon. That being said he has to win more to get there in my book and perhaps he will, but the hype is the very reason people don't like him (no hate meant with that, I myself have similar reactions to the old NRG squad). And maybe his behavior, that IDK. Just let the dude become the player he is going to be don't throw all these labels on him when other than one split he really hasn't done a whole lot in this space yet. that split to me also has an asterisk just from the suddenness of his entry and the lack of preparation from teams around the world, the very next season, MENA, SAM, and NA top teams were already finding ways to compete and often beat the supposed "perfect" RL team. Now part of my dislike for him as a player is simply NA vs EU. I have no specific ill will toward him as a person other than I hope NA teams win when they play, but there is this mahomes-esque infatuation with the player, only difference is he has yet to actually prove himself, like actually prove himself. So we will see if now with a much better team on paper if it will turn around and his legacy can gain traction, though I for one am skeptical especially in the competitive league we find ourselves iin.
@@Sinnxnz I don't really think he can back it up sure there was the one split, but after that the team has looked very beatable and often was beaten. a top 4 finish at worlds did help prevent the team's season outlook as a whole, but Zen still has a lot to do to prove that the spring split/worlds run wasn't just a fluke from the shock of his entry into the space.
If you are SSL you are the same distance from diamond 3 as you are to zen SSL: 1937 | ZEN: (Peak Season 30) 2815 on tracker Difference of 878 MMR which is 1059 MMR going the other way which is Diamond 3 Div 4
@@Krubus You're right, some people like Johnny call it an "In and out save". When this move became popular it was quickly coined the "Squishy Save" due to the obvious. But people like Johnny refuse to call it this because, rather than cementing specific players in the folklore, he prefers to name moves the boring way by using a name that describes the move. The same goes with the "Musty Flick" and "Zap Dash", and similarly "Psycho" and "Plan B", although these don't directly reference players but originated from Rocket League culture. I don't know about you but I prefer the more interesting names that preserve the culture. I liken it to the football/soccer move, the "Cruyff turn", popularised by Dutch player Yohan Cruyff. Same goes with skateboarding - the "McTwist" popularised by Mike McGill, and the "Half Cab" and "Full Cab" or "Cab" popularised by Steve Caballero. The list could go on. As much as I love Johnny I think his stance on this does a disservice to the Rocket League community and folklore associated with it. EDIT: Let me also give mention to the "Kux pinch", "JZR flick", "Breezi Flick" and, lest we forget, the "Doomsee Dish"
I think it was a perspective thing. I don't think the ball got launched but rather Zen fell rapidly. I can't tell for sure but he also may have used his flip reset to boost down to the ground.
champ 2v2 is such an annoying rank to get out of same for diamond 1v1 cos its always players that are bad and then the ones who are also stuck in there that should be much higher cos of it
Unbelievable record and having a 250 mmr gap on 2nd place is something that feels impossible but it's zen and as we know he loves breaking the game. Also, his teammate in the second game is Dark I'm 90% sure.
@@Dunce... it’s a team fault not Zen fault also 2 overtime game could go the opposite way for France and they would have had mental if you lose 2 overtimes in the row it’s a big mental advantage for Arabs so it’s not big difference in levels I’m not Zen glazer But he is the best player in offense Trk the best player in defense
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5szen is not definitive #1 anymore. I would argue there are maybe 10 players that could break his record if they played as many games as zen. Zen plays a ridiculous amount of 2s.
@@revivednutria7124 watch apparently jack video even pro NA player with a lot of experience said Zen is the best undoubtedly I believe him not plats in comments yapping
Anyone else find it incredibly annoying how Johnny constantly spams the scoreboard instead of looking at the actual gameplay? Like yeah I know monkey moon has two ms in his name bro, you don't need to block the gameplay to show me that they're capitalized 💀
When TRK had this record he didn't even get a shout out from Johnny, but when it's zen the glazing is nonstop, kind of biased. Zen deserves praise tho.
Trk is underrated his defense is the best now But Zen showed why he is the best Except finals he is impulsive kid so that’s why ppl hate him it’s hard to perform under the pressure player in offense even Apparently jack Na pro player said that Zen is undoubtedly the best
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5s having this record does not mean your the best, as LJ and hockser have both held the record I believe. Zen has not done enough to be known as the best. Apparently Jack may have his opinion, but I don't agree with him, he is among the top players in the game right now but to disrespect beastmode, dralii, atow, among others who have better results and to me had an overall better season is criminal
He's just got such a big ego so he plays 2's all day everyday, can always blame his one teammate if he loses. I hated how he stayed sitting after the FIFA finals when they were doing handshakes. Such a loser
@@daltonkirtzinger8148 thats a bit harsh of a view, hes clearly still a top tier player but he and his team couldve played better. He of course could've shown better sportsmanship, but they're a bunch of emotional teenagers and it shouldnt be taken too seriously.
@@pythin2040well he continues to show bad sportsman’s ship more than any other top rocket league player. Not saying GG’s to specific players so many times to the point it’s clearly not an accident, rage quit leaving without saying anything. Too many people have called this guy the best and it’s gotten to his head.
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5s for this series, clearly not 🤣 Zen had the least point on his team almost every game and he was by no means an offensive threat after that first game. Theres a reason the say is "defence wins games" Zen's just a flashy player that all the little kids glaze and make his ego big.
TBH i think there isnt even a conversation anymore, Zen is the goat. Imagine any other pro esports player absolutely clowning other pros like this. He looks like hes in a lobby three divs below him and they're some if the best in the world rn. Tenz in val or ant in cod just dominating like this is Unheard of
Fun fact: If you just reached SSL, you are as far away from Zens peak as you are from a diamond 2 (mmr wise).
These comparisons are the most mind-blowing about this
and if u half it and give it to a new player with 0 mmr they would be around high c3
yeah dude my peak is 1330 (c3) which I reached last week and zen's peak is double mine plus almost 200 😅
That can't be true lol
@Zaeisok nobody cares about your rank. Stop humble bragging.
for people wondering. this was recorded before FifaE tournament. so its about 2800 rating. he didnt break it agian TODAY
Yeah with the season reset, he's wayyy behind 2800mmr
His best MMR was 2815 last season (so 1 week ago)
Keep in mind, the higher zen climbs, the less MMR he gains, like in a range from 1-6, and he loses from a range of 8-13
Around 1:3 ratio give or take.
And if you are SSL, your difference to ZEN is the same as Diamond3.
Now scale this with a diamond that gains 10-15mmr vs ZEN who gains 1-6mmr.
Also the more he wins, the less he gains from the leaderboard level powerhouses.
@@Official_Solok yes but it scales because of difference in skill, the game determines that the 2500-2600s he was vsing are only good enough to beat him say 1/4 games, the diamonds gaining/losing 9mmr are playing people equally as good at 2s
i.e. it’s not a bigger skill gap because of the smaller mmr gains, the elo system already takes that into account
his efficiency around the field is too damn good
Thanks for making a video on this. At one point, the mmr difference from Zen to 2nd place was the same difference as 2nd the 48th place. He's kind of unreal
Please Johnny you need to review Zen's POV against USA and Portugal.. it was just insane
One of the games vs USA he was just clip farming
Look at the goal at 4:20 nobody else in the game is doing this, obviously any player can score this open net but zen is flip cancelling to change the angle of his car so that he can more efficiently power slide into a position that allows him to use his momentum to air roll into a power shot. It’s just disgusting what this guy does.
Literally just got the timestamp to come down here and see the exact comment I was about to write. It’s so smooth and subtle but also difficult.
I don't know where you saw a flip cancel in there. He sideflips, starts a slight horizontal rotation (just before landing) that he maintains with a powerdrift on landing and then directional air roll jumps and flicks. The move is still really great, but no fcancel.
No matter what people say, I agree that zen is still the best player in the world. He’s a kid so ofc he’s going to make mistakes, and causes scenes. But that doesn’t change his ability on the field and his impact. His 2s record shows that clearly. The hate is so forced 💀
People hate him? I don’t know where ur at but I always see Zen in the top 2 of best current player all the time
Anyways, I’m a zen glazer, and I believe that he will eventually become the goat, if MM is the modern day Turbo, then Zen is the modern day mechanical prodigy, like jstn back then except I don’t know I feel like maybe his adaption will be timeless
@@alejandroayvar5305as a fellow zen glazer I hope he can but I honestly think he became too good for his own good, I mean an undefeated debut. Anything at all after that is gonna be seen as less I’m sure that affects him mentally
He's hated cuz of his personality. Same with Vatira and MonkeyMoon since they have this superiority complex and arrogance. The only thing about it is that they can back it up which is also annoying for other nations that face them
@@alejandroayvar5305 honestly I don't hate him. I don't like him as a player just because of the competitive part of the esport, but really I feel most of the dislike stems from the fact that people have puffed him up and way overrated this person from the moment he joined. Now obviously he's good, but people calling him the goat off rip was way too forced and the drastic fall off him and his team took the season after has only proven that he isn't just some instant win switch. I don't think he will ever be a unanimous "goat" I think he will probably be among the great legends along with squishy, Garrett, jstn, turbo, kaydop, kro, kuxir, and monkey moon. That being said he has to win more to get there in my book and perhaps he will, but the hype is the very reason people don't like him (no hate meant with that, I myself have similar reactions to the old NRG squad). And maybe his behavior, that IDK. Just let the dude become the player he is going to be don't throw all these labels on him when other than one split he really hasn't done a whole lot in this space yet. that split to me also has an asterisk just from the suddenness of his entry and the lack of preparation from teams around the world, the very next season, MENA, SAM, and NA top teams were already finding ways to compete and often beat the supposed "perfect" RL team. Now part of my dislike for him as a player is simply NA vs EU. I have no specific ill will toward him as a person other than I hope NA teams win when they play, but there is this mahomes-esque infatuation with the player, only difference is he has yet to actually prove himself, like actually prove himself. So we will see if now with a much better team on paper if it will turn around and his legacy can gain traction, though I for one am skeptical especially in the competitive league we find ourselves iin.
@@Sinnxnz I don't really think he can back it up sure there was the one split, but after that the team has looked very beatable and often was beaten. a top 4 finish at worlds did help prevent the team's season outlook as a whole, but Zen still has a lot to do to prove that the spring split/worlds run wasn't just a fluke from the shock of his entry into the space.
Have you claimed the Squishy Saver title?
He would've if it was called "In and out saver" lmao
How do you get that title
Zen the goat
It’s a squishy save sir. It’s ok to put the ego aside now
its a in and out save ;)
i think this was recorded before the official title came out
Lmfao@@Nothing-tp8kd
@Tehfatalist it's a title in the game.....
@@Nothing-tp8kd oh you don’t know about his ego with squishy… nvm lol
If you are SSL you are the same distance from diamond 3 as you are to zen
SSL: 1937 | ZEN: (Peak Season 30) 2815 on tracker
Difference of 878 MMR which is 1059 MMR going the other way which is Diamond 3 Div 4
Ssl is 1875
878 is prolly d2
SSL isnt 1937
*Squishy save 5:28
also called the in and out save but squishy made it popular in pro play so now it's a squishy save
@@Krubus You're right, some people like Johnny call it an "In and out save". When this move became popular it was quickly coined the "Squishy Save" due to the obvious. But people like Johnny refuse to call it this because, rather than cementing specific players in the folklore, he prefers to name moves the boring way by using a name that describes the move. The same goes with the "Musty Flick" and "Zap Dash", and similarly "Psycho" and "Plan B", although these don't directly reference players but originated from Rocket League culture. I don't know about you but I prefer the more interesting names that preserve the culture. I liken it to the football/soccer move, the "Cruyff turn", popularised by Dutch player Yohan Cruyff. Same goes with skateboarding - the "McTwist" popularised by Mike McGill, and the "Half Cab" and "Full Cab" or "Cab" popularised by Steve Caballero. The list could go on. As much as I love Johnny I think his stance on this does a disservice to the Rocket League community and folklore associated with it.
EDIT: Let me also give mention to the "Kux pinch", "JZR flick", "Breezi Flick" and, lest we forget, the "Doomsee Dish"
like the magnus carlsen of rl
Me
When Vatira is so good that he is on the leaderboard twice 😂
9:22 how did the ball get launched from that
I think it was a perspective thing. I don't think the ball got launched but rather Zen fell rapidly. I can't tell for sure but he also may have used his flip reset to boost down to the ground.
Zen vs monkey moon is a treat
Where was the Nass video when he got it last season?
Did Nass beat the record by 200 points?
@ Nah but he beat the record, that was enough for Monkey M00n and Zen to get vids in the past but not him-not that deep just funny lol
champ 2v2 is such an annoying rank to get out of same for diamond 1v1 cos its always players that are bad and then the ones who are also stuck in there that should be much higher cos of it
This season we might see SSL +1k MMR at this rate
why is the the replay in such low quality even though the video settings are at 1080p, so hard to watch at 10 fps
I was waiting for them to re-upload but did not happen.. that's so jarring to watch at 30 fps
At this point he’s going to shoot for 3k elo
I just checked zens stats. Champ 2 in 3's i feel terrible for any champs that are unfortunate enough to play when he q 3s
love the vids
Anyone know why he has K corp decal when he’s on vitality
its just a popular preset that a ton of pros used to use
Why not?? 😂😂
Did nobody hear about the roster reset k corp had. The one with zen on it? Or did he get switched out after that or something
@@neptunetricks9792you're just tripping my friend, zen is still in vitality
@@somerandomchad469 Zen is on BDS
GC might as well be plat
Didnt TRK have an insane 2v2 peak far above anyone else?
i wonder how many games zen would have to lose in order to lose SSL?
Yo 60 fps reupload pls??
Unbelievable record and having a 250 mmr gap on 2nd place is something that feels impossible but it's zen and as we know he loves breaking the game. Also, his teammate in the second game is Dark I'm 90% sure.
Dark isn’t high enough to be in these lobbies even if zen gets lower teammates
7:06 WTFFFFF
Squishy solos
Yo what is this 30 FPS VIDEO. Need 60 fps re-upload pls
Thanks Brian. For reuploading
Thanks again Brian
U jus need to change the quality to the highest (1080p or 1440p)
That will not give higher fps.. only makes resolution higher.. more fps means, more smooth for game viewing @ibz_rl
''best rl ego in the world''
hes the best in the world
@Icyyuh he didnt prove it against saudi
@@Dunce... it’s a team fault not Zen fault also 2 overtime game could go the opposite way for France and they would have had mental if you lose 2 overtimes in the row it’s a big mental advantage for Arabs so it’s not big difference in levels
I’m not Zen glazer
But he is the best player in offense
Trk the best player in defense
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5szen is not definitive #1 anymore. I would argue there are maybe 10 players that could break his record if they played as many games as zen. Zen plays a ridiculous amount of 2s.
@@revivednutria7124 watch apparently jack video even pro NA player with a lot of experience said Zen is the best undoubtedly
I believe him not plats in comments
yapping
why 30fps
Trading.
What😂
Im tired of johnny glazing on zen
Spoiler blocker
bro thinks its a showmatch
Anyone else find it incredibly annoying how Johnny constantly spams the scoreboard instead of looking at the actual gameplay? Like yeah I know monkey moon has two ms in his name bro, you don't need to block the gameplay to show me that they're capitalized 💀
not at all
nope just you😂
Nope
Agreed, annoying as hell lol
@@madinge711 Apparently not 🤡
When TRK had this record he didn't even get a shout out from Johnny, but when it's zen the glazing is nonstop, kind of biased. Zen deserves praise tho.
That's because it wasn't broken by a few points it has been shattered in a way which has never been done before
Trk is underrated his defense is the best now
But Zen showed why he is the best
Except finals he is impulsive kid so that’s why ppl hate him
it’s hard to perform under the pressure player in offense even Apparently jack Na pro player said that Zen is undoubtedly the best
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5s having this record does not mean your the best, as LJ and hockser have both held the record I believe. Zen has not done enough to be known as the best. Apparently Jack may have his opinion, but I don't agree with him, he is among the top players in the game right now but to disrespect beastmode, dralii, atow, among others who have better results and to me had an overall better season is criminal
i think he was not is the best player in the world , specially after yesterday
He's just got such a big ego so he plays 2's all day everyday, can always blame his one teammate if he loses. I hated how he stayed sitting after the FIFA finals when they were doing handshakes. Such a loser
@@daltonkirtzinger8148 thats a bit harsh of a view, hes clearly still a top tier player but he and his team couldve played better. He of course could've shown better sportsmanship, but they're a bunch of emotional teenagers and it shouldnt be taken too seriously.
@@pythin2040well he continues to show bad sportsman’s ship more than any other top rocket league player. Not saying GG’s to specific players so many times to the point it’s clearly not an accident, rage quit leaving without saying anything. Too many people have called this guy the best and it’s gotten to his head.
@@daltonkirtzinger8148 cry more
Zen, Killerz,Atow are the 🐐 in offense
Rw9 ,Trk,MM the best defensive players
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5s for this series, clearly not 🤣 Zen had the least point on his team almost every game and he was by no means an offensive threat after that first game. Theres a reason the say is "defence wins games" Zen's just a flashy player that all the little kids glaze and make his ego big.
"best player in the world" just completely choked FIFAesports finals. He aint a good teammate and was caught out of position in key moments
....?
He didn't play his best yesterday during the finals. Happens. He's still the best player of the world, without any doubt.
Then who is?
He is the best player in offense
Rw9 the best player in defense
Bro it’s a fact
@@MagnusCarIsen-v5sI would argue nwpo, killeerz, Daniel on occasions are better
your zen glaze needs to stop, you're too old for this and also he's a great player, but he's not the best in the world old man.
Just out of curiosity, who in your opinion is if not zen?
TBH i think there isnt even a conversation anymore, Zen is the goat. Imagine any other pro esports player absolutely clowning other pros like this. He looks like hes in a lobby three divs below him and they're some if the best in the world rn. Tenz in val or ant in cod just dominating like this is Unheard of