Yank here- this build is basically is my dream car. Don’t know if I’ll ever get to it myself, but documenting and explaining it with the detail that you have is very much appreciated from across the pond. 😎
My parents had 2 Minis, different times. I learned to drive with one when I was 14. We had a long driveway. I’ve always dreamed to restore one, but my health went south and my spine collapsed. Now Minis in States are nearly $20+K. Excellent Mr. Bean roof cargo mini vinwiki episode, brought me here and subscribed.
As someone who drives an EV for work, I would highly recommend having one of the gauges being 'charge level' as while the range calculations are handy for casual use, they are an unreliable metric when you are going on journeys with enough distance where you come across different driving environments.
My first car was an original Mini. Had an absolute blast burning around with the horribly underpowered engine. I'd love a classic EV mini. You're living my dream.
Fantastic informative video, wiring harness is like the Nevis system of the car. It is a nightmare to fault find. I see the EV companies are developing the network cable system. Looking forward to this series
Algorithm brought me here so I guess you're doing something right. Thanks for the video, very nice. I subbed, this is the kind of content I'm consuming right now - algorithm is on point, and fresh! My argument these days is if I'm camping 100 miles in the middle of nowhere (Oregon, USA) that I can make electricity but I can't make gas - I don't know why everyone isn't doing this, gas is expensive and smells bad in the can and in the air. Even if I had to wait a couple days, I wouldn't starve or dehydrate to death before I got another 4 hours of run time (I find it's easier to speak of battery power more like a plane measure fuel - in time expected left to ride) and I honestly wish I could see a display that showed expected run time based on ride history since last charge and expected run time based on your present burn rate. Averaging saved torque values over time and current torque values during the ride would also be helpful in profiling my system behavior. I am still unsure if I am going to make a full size car build; I have an array of PEV (large and small, 1, 2, and 3 wheeled) that are serving needs and if I need to go bigger (I'm disabled) tentative plan is to acquire most of a Yamaha Tricities or Piaggio MP3 husk and make a touring PEV with sizeable fairings and aerodynamic/stowage features like lighter velos (I have two already). "Kei" style trucks are illegal to drive on public roadways in Oregon (USA) but I want to do a EV conversion on one just to use around the property - there aren't any husks around and I don't want to break one - regular utility vehicles start around 6k USD and decent ones easily top 13k USD and you'd still need to add options you wanted. There really aren't any decently useable/reliable EV utility vehicles under 20k USD (check videos on the smaller extra cheap ones from online sites, if you don't want lead batteries, there's a significant upcharge for LiPo packs). The best I've seen is electric forklifts have been around forever and that's about it; they are well supported, however, which is nice.
Have looked at data capture in the past forwarding to a AWS server where a system can be out in place to calculate everything you mention real time or you could look back on previous events. Battery’s are starting to come down in price mainly because more manufacturers are coming on line at the same time ev adoption has stated to show abit.
Fellten content is hard as there are investors that want a certain type of corporate content which makes things no fun. Now with Chris running the channel as his own will still have lots of Fellten content but also other fun stuff not just bolt in ev kits.
As I'm gutting my first mini and debating on what direction I want to go, I stumble on to this video... Where does one find this kit? I am excited to watch the progress of this!
are you not running a bigger tire then factory? i don't know what tire sies you can fit in there but the vertical tire patch is ware most forward tration is. taller tire more forward tration. maybe even bigger wheels and tires if you can fit it ?
I hope you are aware of the issues someone had with the DVLA when converting their mini a couple of years back? He drilled a couple of holes in the boot floor for cables and the DVLA refused to allow it on the road without an IVA, which would be a huge amount of work for a mini to pass.
Heads up, your shorts are notifying, but this video did not. Happy I got curious and looked, but I'm betting lots won't... Maybe try a YT post to boost engagement :-)
So, no brackets? I just watched Edd China having his mate's Range Rover chassis hot dipped. Would this be worthwhile on this body to make sure it lasts the 30 years expected of the new running gear? There aren't many cars that'd fit whole in the tank at Shropshire GalvaniZing but the Mini is one of them.
oh, solid!! now... where is this kit available from? also... i have an idea for the old Saab 900 turbo// the engine uses the transmission as the entire lower oil pan and drives the trans with a chain drive up front... i want to do this conversion...
Can't find a price for the diy kit on the Fellten site, but the only listed UK installer is going to want £40-65k I want one, but I think I'll have to stick to a K20 swap for now
😂 see your point. Yep not enough grip due to tyre width which an lsd would help. There is dynamic traction control built into the aem unit. But also with an LDS the gearbox might not be able to handle it.
Please don’t kill me for asking, but did you talk about range? I may have missed it. Also, do you have to have a V2L dongle to use the AC out? Absolutely love this work!
The kit will do 110 wltp miles which Fellten have tested. You need a type2 to 13amp or 16amp output but does not need to be a particular model. You power the car up and then press the charge button 10 times to activate AC out
@@Clm1403 it is NMC if was LFP in that size and space would only get about 60mikes range. But there is a new battery called LMFP coming from CATL that looks really good
This is a good way to escape investors content control. They should really look at channels like Donut Media and Car Throttle and realise that fun, and chaotic is the best way to make a channel not corporate restrictions.
Fellten do that for David brown so I know it is possible. In the UK we only have to open the windows for a few weeks per year if we are lucking so no need for AC 😂
Shame the heater doesn't use the drivetrain's waste heat. Feels like it could, pretty readily, with resistive trim heat when the system's cold. Heated seats would probably be the place to start, all that said.
We looked at that before but most of the time the drive system coolant is no hotter than 40c which just does not give enough of a temperature differential to be worth wile. Heated seats are definitely the best option.
Mmmm interesting video ...I have been a Mini affection-ado for some 55 yrs (got my first one back in 1970). I have been monitoring this subject (ie MINI EV CONVERSIONS) for some time now ... in the past the 'elephant in the room' has been the attitude of kit manufacturers to limit the sales of kits to 'approved workshops' only ... this very much limits the sales to people with vast amounts of money ... a recent quotation obtained from your Australian kit (Feltern/Jaunt) supplier/installer for a mini conversion was at over AUD$100,000 not including the base car ! which frankly is ridiculous ... yes I understand the concern for product liability and safety issues ... BUT ... there are lots of very well qualified technically capable folk out there that would love to build up an EV Mini but will not even consider it due to too high cost or technical sales restrictions ... and that issue will either make or break your success.
Yeah, it's a market for the super rich at the moment and these start-ups are cashing in on the rich for the time being. Still, that is about $30-40K worth of kit he's showing off - EV conversion is not cheap. And if you start dealing with high V (over 60V) it's dangerous too!
The full bolt in kit is £30,000 plus vat. Fellten UK will install the kit with you to save cost. The reason for this is it but be don’t properly and brand damage is a big risk for companies supplying to DIY until the dvla bring in standard and testing.
@@micheltebraake7915 Fellten is my company www.fellten.com but the channel is now Hazell Nutz so I can be myself and do cool stuff that does not effect the corporate business of Fellten. There is a new Fellten channel for business content.
How realistic would it be for a non-electrician to assemble this kit into a Mini? It all looks plug-and-play but I have zero experience. Should I just have someone else do it if I were to build one of these? :D
This is for people who are not really requiring to consider costs. You potentially end up with a nice classic looking mini but it will cost you double the price of a more capable EV that's a couple of years old and that you could buy tomorrow ... with remaining 6 years of the 8 year battery/motor warranty. Financially the other EV is a no brainer ... if you are desperate for a lovely mini conversion and nothing else will please you, and you have the money, then this conversion is a great option.
A full bolt in kit from Fellten is about 30k plus vat. They are happy to fit the kit with you provided the car is supplied in good condition and does not require any additional work.
Sorry, Fellten has become very corporate so could not do the sort of videos I wanted to do this name change allows me and Nick to be ourselves. What this space it’s well worth it.
@@Hazell_Nutzwhile I later sat in a original mini I went to an Auto Show in Boston years ago and a mini dear fro Peabidy MA had a massive Mini section at tge show. I was amazed at how much room they have in the front seats. If I could find an affordable original that isn't rusted to hell in the states I'd consider doing a conversion.
UK summers average around 70f. It can spike, but if you only need to roll the windows down for like 3 months out of the year to beat the heat. They just don't need it.
It's a Mini shell, not a Mini Cooper. And these vehicles can only be deemed 'classic' by those who didn't have to own and drive one on a daily basis through British winters.
We know but the US know of them as Mini Cooper so have to put in the title to get US interest. We have done over 15,000mile over the last year driving all winter.
£30k just for the kit? Add the work and set up… makes it £45k maybe ?? Who is this aimed at? Only asking because for some time there have been old classic car conversions for below £10k cost in total. The French company TransitionOne sold kits for less than €7k with a government subsidy, for six different models. Because of the pandemic, cost of living crisis and the lack of popular as well as infrastructure support they have stopped trading due to reluctance of take up. For less I can buy a 3year old Porsche Tycan from a dealer with a warranty.
There was no way TransitionOne was ever going to be viable business model. The idea was great but not possible maybe a few years too early. Fellten make about 20 per year and they go to high net worth customers. Issue is to develop such as system costs hundreds of thousands of pounds. This was heavily funded by BMW Mini.
So 10 grand for a decent mini and 20 grand plus for the electrical kit? Plus labour? Not democratic is it. Rich man’s toy. And hardly a modern, safe car by any means. Try creating a decently priced kit for 20yr high-mileage/knackered engine cars with lots of life left in them, Mini R50 or Honda Civic even?
Yep is still a rich person toy, but Fellten are looking into leasing at the moment. I think kits will get there but mass volume is the only way which will require government support
You correct, of course (well, not quite as the full kit would be £30,000 apparently). Nobody claimed this is a cheap way to get an EV ... people see that it's a kit and wrongly make that assumption. There are some superb modern EVs available that can now be bought secondhand, low mileage, for less than half what you would pay for this. This is a great option for those who can afford to upgrade a classic car ... but that's not what the man in the street is generally looking for!
Yank here- this build is basically is my dream car. Don’t know if I’ll ever get to it myself, but documenting and explaining it with the detail that you have is very much appreciated from across the pond. 😎
No problem at all its all great fun.
Brilliant! One take, and no "umms" or "uhhhs", well done that man! Subscribed and looking forward to the 'build'.
Thank you, it’s easy when you know the subject matter.
My parents had 2 Minis, different times. I learned to drive with one when I was 14. We had a long driveway. I’ve always dreamed to restore one, but my health went south and my spine collapsed. Now Minis in States are nearly $20+K. Excellent Mr. Bean roof cargo mini vinwiki episode, brought me here and subscribed.
Good to see you back on here boys!
Thanks its great to be back, Plus we have so much cool stuff to show, This first video is boring compared to what is to come.
As someone who drives an EV for work, I would highly recommend having one of the gauges being 'charge level' as while the range calculations are handy for casual use, they are an unreliable metric when you are going on journeys with enough distance where you come across different driving environments.
The ideal situation is range but we do not have that software in the mini yet
My first car was an original Mini. Had an absolute blast burning around with the horribly underpowered engine. I'd love a classic EV mini. You're living my dream.
I have had 5 over the years. They are so good once electric ⚡️
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This is epic. Can’t wait for part two
I have always been intrigued by the idea of an electric classic mini project 👍
V12 build first 😎
V12 is a good starting point 😂
@@Hazell_Nutzjust keep sawing cylinders off until it fits
i read that as a 12v not a v12.... hahahaha
@@bazilboyle8240😂
Fantastic informative video, wiring harness is like the Nevis system of the car. It is a nightmare to fault find. I see the EV companies are developing the network cable system. Looking forward to this series
Wiring is the key part of every build just one bad crimp and can take ages to find.
Very cool!! Thank you for the detailed information!! Best of luck and I'll be looking for the next video.
Every Tuesday from 4pm UK time. Thanks for watching.
Brilliant video Chris 💪💪
Thanks 👍
you read my mind for a dream car
It is so much fun wait until you see what colour we paint it you might change your mind.
Algorithm brought me here so I guess you're doing something right.
Thanks for the video, very nice. I subbed, this is the kind of content I'm consuming right now - algorithm is on point, and fresh!
My argument these days is if I'm camping 100 miles in the middle of nowhere (Oregon, USA) that I can make electricity but I can't make gas - I don't know why everyone isn't doing this, gas is expensive and smells bad in the can and in the air.
Even if I had to wait a couple days, I wouldn't starve or dehydrate to death before I got another 4 hours of run time (I find it's easier to speak of battery power more like a plane measure fuel - in time expected left to ride) and I honestly wish I could see a display that showed expected run time based on ride history since last charge and expected run time based on your present burn rate. Averaging saved torque values over time and current torque values during the ride would also be helpful in profiling my system behavior. I am still unsure if I am going to make a full size car build; I have an array of PEV (large and small, 1, 2, and 3 wheeled) that are serving needs and if I need to go bigger (I'm disabled) tentative plan is to acquire most of a Yamaha Tricities or Piaggio MP3 husk and make a touring PEV with sizeable fairings and aerodynamic/stowage features like lighter velos (I have two already).
"Kei" style trucks are illegal to drive on public roadways in Oregon (USA) but I want to do a EV conversion on one just to use around the property - there aren't any husks around and I don't want to break one - regular utility vehicles start around 6k USD and decent ones easily top 13k USD and you'd still need to add options you wanted. There really aren't any decently useable/reliable EV utility vehicles under 20k USD (check videos on the smaller extra cheap ones from online sites, if you don't want lead batteries, there's a significant upcharge for LiPo packs). The best I've seen is electric forklifts have been around forever and that's about it; they are well supported, however, which is nice.
Have looked at data capture in the past forwarding to a AWS server where a system can be out in place to calculate everything you mention real time or you could look back on previous events. Battery’s are starting to come down in price mainly because more manufacturers are coming on line at the same time ev adoption has stated to show abit.
Third name change! I was hoping we'd see more Felten content, but this works too!
Fellten content is hard as there are investors that want a certain type of corporate content which makes things no fun. Now with Chris running the channel as his own will still have lots of Fellten content but also other fun stuff not just bolt in ev kits.
As I'm gutting my first mini and debating on what direction I want to go, I stumble on to this video... Where does one find this kit? I am excited to watch the progress of this!
You can find out all the information at www.fellten.com
Like your watch. What’s the make and model?
It’s a garmin flex 7 I think.
Love it if this becomes an EV build channel. Keep it up boys! Let me know if you’d like my 911 G body as your next patient 😉
It will be a mix, we have 4 start to finish ev builds over the next 12 months along with some ice builds as well.
Currently have a 964 in bits
are you not running a bigger tire then factory? i don't know what tire sies you can fit in there but the vertical tire patch is ware most forward tration is. taller tire more forward tration. maybe even bigger wheels and tires if you can fit it ?
Right now we are running 10inch wheels but do have a set of 12inch wheels with bigger tyres as well to try.
I hope you are aware of the issues someone had with the DVLA when converting their mini a couple of years back? He drilled a couple of holes in the boot floor for cables and the DVLA refused to allow it on the road without an IVA, which would be a huge amount of work for a mini to pass.
Yep it’s not a problem, full bolt in Fellten kit approved by BMW never had an issue with dvla.
Great start, looking forward to more. 😉⚡️💯
Thanks
Groovy Man
Yea baby
Heads up, your shorts are notifying, but this video did not.
Happy I got curious and looked, but I'm betting lots won't... Maybe try a YT post to boost engagement :-)
Thanks for letting me know. Will put out some shorts/ posts to show people it exists
What's the exact motor/inverter/diff combination? Would be interested in reading more about them!
It is a Zonic 70 set up, 72kw motor with inverter and then a 6:1 reduction box.
Can you share a link for the combo charger and DCDC converter? Not seeing it on the Fellten webshop
They do not list it as only using on there systems right now. But if you reached out to sales@fellten.com am sure they would supply.
So, no brackets?
I just watched Edd China having his mate's Range Rover chassis hot dipped. Would this be worthwhile on this body to make sure it lasts the 30 years expected of the new running gear? There aren't many cars that'd fit whole in the tank at Shropshire GalvaniZing but the Mini is one of them.
that would of been a great idea.
oh, solid!! now... where is this kit available from? also... i have an idea for the old Saab 900 turbo// the engine uses the transmission as the entire lower oil pan and drives the trans with a chain drive up front... i want to do this conversion...
You can get them from www.fellten.com
@@Hazell_Nutz SOLID!! thanks, eh?
Can't find a price for the diy kit on the Fellten site, but the only listed UK installer is going to want £40-65k
I want one, but I think I'll have to stick to a K20 swap for now
The full bolt in kit from Fellten is about 30k
@@Hazell_Nutz That's not bad considering what you get. I'd definitely want to save the 10-15k and do it myself. It's more fun as well.
I’m sure kit cost will come down over time as EV conversions will become mainstream sooner or later…
@@hulkimo only thing to consider is the amount of design and development that Fellten have done it has even been signed off by BMW Mini
@@nzyama yes definitely, as soon as some level of volume can be met they will come down.
"We haven't gone to an LSD because we haven't needed to" later in the video "we can't get enough grip"
😂 see your point. Yep not enough grip due to tyre width which an lsd would help. There is dynamic traction control built into the aem unit. But also with an LDS the gearbox might not be able to handle it.
Impressive kit. Like the AC motor instead of those DC motor kits. CCS would be nice though.
We did consider CCS but with only a 19kWh battery pack it could not charge very fast.
@@Hazell_Nutz with an 25kW charge it's under an hour. Got a Livewire. That gets 19kW on 15,5kWh.
Pretty useable.
“Mills Prower… who’s tha.. OOOOOOHHHHHHH Miles per hour!”
😂
Where is the link to the company that sells these?
Www.fellten.com
Excellent YouTubing 😁
Thanks 😅
Please don’t kill me for asking, but did you talk about range? I may have missed it. Also, do you have to have a V2L dongle to use the AC out? Absolutely love this work!
The kit will do 110 wltp miles which Fellten have tested. You need a type2 to 13amp or 16amp output but does not need to be a particular model. You power the car up and then press the charge button 10 times to activate AC out
@@Hazell_Nutz so cool! Battery chemistry? LFP?
@@Clm1403 it is NMC if was LFP in that size and space would only get about 60mikes range. But there is a new battery called LMFP coming from CATL that looks really good
@@Hazell_Nutz good to know. Glad to hear where we are in the current market. Keep the great content coming! Can't get enough of this!
Is this the car that was at Shedfest?
Yes it is, Was going very bad under the grey wrap so had to take it all off and do a rebuild.
This is a good way to escape investors content control.
They should really look at channels like Donut Media and Car Throttle and realise that fun, and chaotic is the best way to make a channel not corporate restrictions.
Will have a look into it. The next episode are a lot more fun and less serious
If I did this I want a A/C with the heater system.
Fellten do that for David brown so I know it is possible. In the UK we only have to open the windows for a few weeks per year if we are lucking so no need for AC 😂
hey where did you buy that charge port with a flap 16:04
It’s made by Fellten. If you email sales@fellten.com they might sell one but there not cheap as custom made.
Wow, thats a quality custom made kit for the mini. How much did all that cost ?....maybe 8-10k pounds ?
Fellten sell the complete bolt in plug and play kit for 30k in the next few episodes you will how in-depth and good it is. They developed it first bmw
Which will be finished first? This or Binky?
We are already finished. It’s at C4R FEST this weekend
Yeah, coooooooool!
What happened to the Felten Australia content?
Moved over to the new Fellten corporate channel
@@Hazell_Nutz OK cheers. Maybe I’m being thick, but it’s not coming up when I search.
@@GingerPiston here is the link www.youtube.com/@Fellten-systems
@@Hazell_Nutz cheers! Was searching for Felten with a single L.
Shame the heater doesn't use the drivetrain's waste heat. Feels like it could, pretty readily, with resistive trim heat when the system's cold. Heated seats would probably be the place to start, all that said.
We looked at that before but most of the time the drive system coolant is no hotter than 40c which just does not give enough of a temperature differential to be worth wile. Heated seats are definitely the best option.
wait, youre back? i thought this was Felten now?
I am back, I am till CEO of Fellten but wanted to have some fun on TH-cam again in which some of the upcoming builds do not it within Fellten’s remit
Never mind Felten, what happened to Zero EV?
@@HenryOCarmichaelSmith got bought by or merged with felten
@@HenryOCarmichaelSmith Zero EV rebranded as Fellten, in fact
@@Mobile_Dom Zero EV rebranded as Fellten, in fact
Mmmm interesting video ...I have been a Mini affection-ado for some 55 yrs (got my first one back in 1970). I have been monitoring this subject (ie MINI EV CONVERSIONS) for some time now ... in the past the 'elephant in the room' has been the attitude of kit manufacturers to limit the sales of kits to 'approved workshops' only ... this very much limits the sales to people with vast amounts of money ... a recent quotation obtained from your Australian kit (Feltern/Jaunt) supplier/installer for a mini conversion was at over AUD$100,000 not including the base car ! which frankly is ridiculous ... yes I understand the concern for product liability and safety issues ... BUT ... there are lots of very well qualified technically capable folk out there that would love to build up an EV Mini but will not even consider it due to too high cost or technical sales restrictions ... and that issue will either make or break your success.
Yeah, it's a market for the super rich at the moment and these start-ups are cashing in on the rich for the time being. Still, that is about $30-40K worth of kit he's showing off - EV conversion is not cheap. And if you start dealing with high V (over 60V) it's dangerous too!
The full bolt in kit is £30,000 plus vat. Fellten UK will install the kit with you to save cost. The reason for this is it but be don’t properly and brand damage is a big risk for companies supplying to DIY until the dvla bring in standard and testing.
What happened to Zero EV?
It was rebranded to Fellten.
@@Hazell_Nutz And now Hazell Nutz.
@@micheltebraake7915 Fellten is my company www.fellten.com but the channel is now Hazell Nutz so I can be myself and do cool stuff that does not effect the corporate business of Fellten. There is a new Fellten channel for business content.
@@Hazell_Nutz That clears up a lot.
That's Nutz, /pardonthepun
Thanks
Why are the remaining videos hidden
Our mistake its because they are not released yet did not release they showed.
How realistic would it be for a non-electrician to assemble this kit into a Mini? It all looks plug-and-play but I have zero experience. Should I just have someone else do it if I were to build one of these? :D
The team at Fellten are happy to help fit a kit if you buy from them. You would need a good sample of a Mini to start with.
This is for people who are not really requiring to consider costs. You potentially end up with a nice classic looking mini but it will cost you double the price of a more capable EV that's a couple of years old and that you could buy tomorrow ... with remaining 6 years of the 8 year battery/motor warranty. Financially the other EV is a no brainer ... if you are desperate for a lovely mini conversion and nothing else will please you, and you have the money, then this conversion is a great option.
How much does it cost?
STARTED at £42,000 when I enquired. 😂
A full bolt in kit from Fellten is about 30k plus vat. They are happy to fit the kit with you provided the car is supplied in good condition and does not require any additional work.
@@JamesPlace-o1kwhat a joke
what's with the constant name changing? it's hard to know what I'm following.
Sorry, Fellten has become very corporate so could not do the sort of videos I wanted to do this name change allows me and Nick to be ourselves. What this space it’s well worth it.
Do you even fit in it? Car is in the air and you tower over it.
😂 you would be surprised how much room is in a mini
@@Hazell_Nutzwhile I later sat in a original mini I went to an Auto Show in Boston years ago and a mini dear fro Peabidy MA had a massive Mini section at tge show. I was amazed at how much room they have in the front seats. If I could find an affordable original that isn't rusted to hell in the states I'd consider doing a conversion.
I want this, but for a realistic price. Who can help me out?✌
Not there yet but the time will come
just a heater ? not a ac pump
UK summers average around 70f. It can spike, but if you only need to roll the windows down for like 3 months out of the year to beat the heat. They just don't need it.
Think there is AC in the David brown minis but it’s very tight
just to o confirm, this is not a DIY kit, right?
Fellten are not yet selling the full kit to DIY but they will offer to fit the kit with you.
If you want talk, go to the radio! This is video channel, instead of talking show how you build man!
You don’t have to watch it! Have to explain all the parts before starting a build.
It's a Mini shell, not a Mini Cooper. And these vehicles can only be deemed 'classic' by those who didn't have to own and drive one on a daily basis through British winters.
We know but the US know of them as Mini Cooper so have to put in the title to get US interest. We have done over 15,000mile over the last year driving all winter.
@@Hazell_Nutz Thanks - and good luck with the conversion!
£30k just for the kit? Add the work and set up… makes it £45k maybe ?? Who is this aimed at? Only asking because for some time there have been old classic car conversions for below £10k cost in total. The French company TransitionOne sold kits for less than €7k with a government subsidy, for six different models. Because of the pandemic, cost of living crisis and the lack of popular as well as infrastructure support they have stopped trading due to reluctance of take up. For less I can buy a 3year old Porsche Tycan from a dealer with a warranty.
There was no way TransitionOne was ever going to be viable business model. The idea was great but not possible maybe a few years too early. Fellten make about 20 per year and they go to high net worth customers. Issue is to develop such as system costs hundreds of thousands of pounds. This was heavily funded by BMW Mini.
Lol. Comparing something that does exist to something that doesnt is wild!
Killing the planet one EV at a time 😢
😂 there is always one ☝️
what a waste of time and a good car who wants another bloody milkfloat
It’s a bloody fast milk float!
So 10 grand for a decent mini and 20 grand plus for the electrical kit? Plus labour? Not democratic is it. Rich man’s toy. And hardly a modern, safe car by any means. Try creating a decently priced kit for 20yr high-mileage/knackered engine cars with lots of life left in them, Mini R50 or Honda Civic even?
Yep is still a rich person toy, but Fellten are looking into leasing at the moment. I think kits will get there but mass volume is the only way which will require government support
You correct, of course (well, not quite as the full kit would be £30,000 apparently). Nobody claimed this is a cheap way to get an EV ... people see that it's a kit and wrongly make that assumption. There are some superb modern EVs available that can now be bought secondhand, low mileage, for less than half what you would pay for this. This is a great option for those who can afford to upgrade a classic car ... but that's not what the man in the street is generally looking for!
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