@@DandyHippo lol yes, just serviced suspension, one headset and some bearings on my 2 bikes for like 750 EUR. Still I have to replace brake pads, pins are going from China (they are standard metric screws, so no need to have brand on the package) and I still waiting for the price for my son´s bike :D wtf.... :D
I have the Alberts and tried them out with a bit more pressure than I used to. They felt great. Lots of grip and comfort. Then I added even more air and they only got better! Rolling resistance almost disappeared, they felt poppy, but still had comfort and grip. Amazing tires if you pump them up!
"Pump up the jam, pump it up While your feet are stomping And the jam is pumping Look ahead, the crowd is jumpin' Pump it up a little more Get the party goin' on the dance floor See? 'Cause that's where the party's at And you'll find out, if you do that" /Pump Up the Jam Technotronic
I have run Magic Mary in SuperTrail and Gravity Casing on the front in ultra soft for some years now and recently switched to the Gravity Pro Radial Ultra soft on my ebike enduro. It does indeed feel quite differently. There is more plushness and comfort and a bit more traction. I previously had problems on slippery, smooth rocks with the normal MM. The Radial works better. As for the intended surfaces, it works noticably better on muddy, loose ground and in loamy forest conditions. For hardpack the Albert would probably be better. I really like it! I was running 1,6bar (23 psi) in the front (gravity casing) for my 210lbs plus ebike weight. The radial worked fine for me with 1,7-1,8bar or 24,5 to 26psi. You do notice increase rolling resistance though. Thats why I would probably not use them on my trail bike. Especailly in the rear.
A lot of great points explained in a unique, different and easy to understand way. Enjoyed that perspective, thanks Henry!! Unbelievable how much of a difference the Radial casing makes and I'm also impressed at how well the system works in wet and damp conditions, the extra contact patch makes an insane and notable difference as I'm running closer to traditional pressures. The grip gives confidence and helps with composure to hit those technical rooty or rocky sections. I'm a big fan!
I doubt it's a coincidence they started with the heavier casing gravity oriented models. I'm guessing the XC/down country tires won't have enough sidewall support.
I just climbed and descended 2500' on my radial Mary and Albert. I ran about 5 psi higher than normal for each. It was an absolute game changer. The grip was noticeable, but even better was having more air pressure for added suspension.
They will require a complete rethink on what psi we need to use! Automotive radial tires came to NA in the 70's on import cars. If I remember correctly, it was only two or three years later that every new car had them. It's best to understand that the casing fabric is not fully radial as the name would suggest. It"s a "more" radial weave with a shallower angle than a bias ply tire. It's the application of the casing that makes my day. Finally we are adventuring into the realm of higher performance designs, aside from using only layers and TPI . I expect other manufacturers (caught sleeping) are be in their labs working out a design to sell. So long as the weights are similar to existing tires it's a good direction to go. I'd happily have a DH or Enduro spec "radial" tire with more psi range to use for different terrains, same as with bias-ply of today but with more of the promised micro compliance resulting in more grip. I guess we'll see who's next to release a competing design.
I run a Zipp 3 zero rim, 220mm rotor and powerful brakes and a Push ACS3 coil conversion. This could be the next step to improving the front end of my bike. It was pretty amazing in the Alps this year as it was
Testing a radial tyre would be good though. Nice explanation on how they work but........ Also on the cardboard testing if there was a difference in contact patch it sure wasn't 30% I'm guessing tyre pressure rim was the same?🤷
Have the Albert tyre on the front and love it. The grip is amazing. May get one for the rear too but run it at a higher pressure. When I got the Albert tyre I increased my pressure from 1 bar to 2 bar 👍
I'm going to say what i said in a comment. The entire benefit of pneumatic tires is that the pressure everywhere in the tire is the same. The area of the contact patch is simply the weight divided by the pressure of the tire. 200lbs on 20PSI tires will give you a 10 square inch area contact patch. Maybe the contact patch is wider?
Won't a more supply tyre make it easier to ding your rim? so then you'll need to increase the pressure to compensate? so then would there be any difference between running the new tyre at higher pressures compared to the old tyre at lower pressures?
@@andymtb3212 But he didn't demonstrate it, how much more pressure would you need to add to prevent you from dinging your rim? and would it still have a bigger contact patch compared to the old tyre? I'm not saying it wouldn't, I just need to see some evidence, especially considering the mountain bike industry is full of marketing hype
@@benjy288 exatclty what i was thinking all along. more tyre patch means tyre is deflecting more? so the tyre will get to the rim with less force? pump them up more, so the tyre is deflecting the same amount as a standard tyre and boom the contact patch is the same as would be on a standard tyre. I could be wrong but from how i look at it all you have done is ran more pressure to acheive the same result.
@@gaspertolar7950 Yea, I'm about 78kg and I currently have a syerra front tyre, its 60tpi so its not as supply, but because its not as supply I can run lower pressures at 17psi without any rim strike issues
@@gaspertolar7950the request from the DH team was a tyre that could be run at higher pressures with the same grip. The increase in pressure meant they didn’t need inserts for puncture prevention which in turn gave a performance benefit of reducing the un sprung weight on the bikes leading to wins. For us consumers, we have the choice of same pressures and more grip or like the DH teams, more pressure and ditching inserts if you run them.
I wonder how these tires play with say.. cushcores for example. Would the sidewall benefit from some support? Or would the pressure be high enough to negate the need. I’m sure the dampness would be taken to a new level! Thoughts?
Also, what are the chances of more contact patch causing burping... lots of questions. Need a whole series on different tests such as how much psi does it take to burp the alberts on the rear with the gravity casing, trail casing, soft, super soft compounds?
They really are a "bit" better than the normal MM Ultrasoft casings. Needed to add a couple psi (20 up to 22) or they give way a bit in the corners, but you do notice a small difference.
I want to run these on my trail bike. But they have no options yet for that discipline. Shredda, Magic Mary and Albert are more in line for Enduro/DH But if they make one for their hans dampf, wicked will or nobby nick I'll give it a shot!
Someone said it’s like ground from air suspension to coil. Once winter is over Dirty Dans in dh casing are coming off and two radial Marys are going on.
I bet it makes a differance. I'm all for a casing that grips better at higher pressures 👍 I ran the DH22 (old wired ones) and I really feel the same thing that Henry talked about on the podcast a while ago about very heacy tyres with stiff casings. You are kinda chasing a level of comliance that you only reach at very low pressures. Which, in turn, is too soft when you hit things hard = bottom out. If this radial business is the real deal then I can pretty much bet my monthly allowance (aka pay check) that all brands will be introducing similar tech pretty soon.
Henry, your discussion of the spoked wheel and comparison to a radial tire sounded like complete fiction dressed up as well-intentioned gobbledegook. Jobst Brandt would be spinning past redline in his grave.
My dilemma... I have a Yeti SB160 with Continental Kryptoal front and rear, love them. Looking for less rolling resistance possibly to help on longer ride days. Was thinking Maxxis forekaster v2, or do I go with the radial Alberta's front and rear. Is rolling resistance any better then my Continental's being I can put more air pressure in the Alberta's and get more grip and compliance?
The Forekaster V2 is awesome. Side lugs still confidently large for turning and burning but rolling resistance is great! Id place it in-between the Rekon and DHR/F for grip
If you choose the air pressure so that both tires have the same rolling resistance, then I would like to know how the riding experience is or whether the difference cancels out. Everything else sounds like pure marketing to me. The placebo effect is very powerful.
That's what I was thinking, if you adjust the air pressure so that both tyres have the same contact patch then what's the difference exactly? just the number on your tyre pressure gauge
@ you cannot think that in numbers, its silly. 30 psi radial feels different and probably still has a way larger cp than a 23 psi non radial. And the point is not to pump them to 50 or keep your non radial at 14 psi.. this thinking is silly and same as if unc had tits hed be an aunt. The feel is the thing, not just the contact patch
@ I'm not thinking in numbers, I'm thinking in contact patch, if you set up both tyres to have the same contact patch and to where you don't have any rim strike issues, then what's the difference between the two exactly? besides the number on your tyre pressure gauge
I think these numbers are bs. If you have 200lbs on tires at 20PSI, you have 10 square inches of contact patch. The area doesn't change unless you change pressure or weight, but the shape might change a little. That's the whole benefit of a pneumatic tire.
Wow, first tubeless tires, now radials. I for one am excited to see what other 20 year old tech the bicycle community can finally steal from motor vehicles. ABS anyone? Edit: Correction, radial tires were invented in the 40's and became standard in the 80's, so that's at least 40 year old tech finally introduced in 2025. Also, I am in no way suggesting ABS would be a good idea offroad, though off-road ABS does exists on newer dual sport motorcycles. So by my calculations MTBs will have it around 2065.
@@FreeTimeFeats ABS would be plain dangerous on a mountain bike, imagine riding a steep double black and ABS decides to release some brake pressure because it thinks that your wheel is about to lock, that's not what anyone would ever want to happen
These tires are not bad, just not worth the price. Increased suppleness is mostly negated by the high pressure you'll need to run. I will not buy them again unless they are cheaper than the regular casing.
Schwalbe.... Solving a tubeless problem whilst creating a different tubeless problem. Someone should do an article on a taped and tubed tyre v tubeless radial tyres.
Dont buy it then 😂 people comment negative stuff only because they get the urge to try but need convincing and dont want to spend the money and then they do and are like wow I was mistaken. Dumb
Honestly, the biggest thing that would improve my tyre performance, are affordable tyres than I can actually replace when the lugs are worn.
Bro ur in the wrong sport if ur looking for affordable stuff 😂
You said the taboo word, people don't seem to like that A-word in this sport! I agree with you though!
@@DandyHippoabsolutely. I was kayaking before this £2,500 and you had top notch kit that lasted 5 years with no maintenance.
@@DandyHippo lol yes, just serviced suspension, one headset and some bearings on my 2 bikes for like 750 EUR. Still I have to replace brake pads, pins are going from China (they are standard metric screws, so no need to have brand on the package) and I still waiting for the price for my son´s bike :D wtf.... :D
look for goodyear newton mtf/mtr, pretty good tyres for 40€ a piece
would love to try them but the price is a bit hard to schwalbe
Just get the front, rear isn’t as important for the feel
😂
I have the Alberts and tried them out with a bit more pressure than I used to. They felt great. Lots of grip and comfort. Then I added even more air and they only got better! Rolling resistance almost disappeared, they felt poppy, but still had comfort and grip. Amazing tires if you pump them up!
Isn’t increasing pressure just reducing contact patch defeating the purpose of?
"Pump up the jam, pump it up
While your feet are stomping
And the jam is pumping
Look ahead, the crowd is jumpin'
Pump it up a little more
Get the party goin' on the dance floor
See? 'Cause that's where the party's at
And you'll find out, if you do that"
/Pump Up the Jam
Technotronic
@@pernyberg2816awa.....a place to stay
I really just want to know how to get that stupid purple line off my tire.
Shred more!
I tried Albert radial 2 day ago after changing from Assegai. Now Albert is my favorite! Comfort is on another level.
Thanks Henry! Best explanation of tire technology I've ever heard.
I appreciate this kind of content from PB. Feels like less of an ad and more informative.
I have run Magic Mary in SuperTrail and Gravity Casing on the front in ultra soft for some years now and recently switched to the Gravity Pro Radial Ultra soft on my ebike enduro. It does indeed feel quite differently. There is more plushness and comfort and a bit more traction. I previously had problems on slippery, smooth rocks with the normal MM. The Radial works better. As for the intended surfaces, it works noticably better on muddy, loose ground and in loamy forest conditions. For hardpack the Albert would probably be better. I really like it! I was running 1,6bar (23 psi) in the front (gravity casing) for my 210lbs plus ebike weight. The radial worked fine for me with 1,7-1,8bar or 24,5 to 26psi. You do notice increase rolling resistance though. Thats why I would probably not use them on my trail bike. Especailly in the rear.
A lot of great points explained in a unique, different and easy to understand way. Enjoyed that perspective, thanks Henry!!
Unbelievable how much of a difference the Radial casing makes and I'm also impressed at how well the system works in wet and damp conditions, the extra contact patch makes an insane and notable difference as I'm running closer to traditional pressures. The grip gives confidence and helps with composure to hit those technical rooty or rocky sections. I'm a big fan!
Now make one for us light trail riding types.
I doubt it's a coincidence they started with the heavier casing gravity oriented models. I'm guessing the XC/down country tires won't have enough sidewall support.
I just climbed and descended 2500' on my radial Mary and Albert. I ran about 5 psi higher than normal for each. It was an absolute game changer. The grip was noticeable, but even better was having more air pressure for added suspension.
What's the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African, or European?
I learned a lot on this one. Great vid!
Wow, been riding square tyres this all time. This is a life changer!
Uhhh you rode the traditional tire but not the new one?
So I wasn't the onlyone who cought that...
He says “final lap” before the run. Guessing he did laps on both.
I can't wait to try them when the DH season starts up this year
They will require a complete rethink on what psi we need to use!
Automotive radial tires came to NA in the 70's on import cars. If I remember correctly, it was only two or three years later that every new car had them. It's best to understand that the casing fabric is not fully radial as the name would suggest. It"s a "more" radial weave with a shallower angle than a bias ply tire.
It's the application of the casing that makes my day. Finally we are adventuring into the realm of higher performance designs, aside from using only layers and TPI . I expect other manufacturers (caught sleeping) are be in their labs working out a design to sell. So long as the weights are similar to existing tires it's a good direction to go.
I'd happily have a DH or Enduro spec "radial" tire with more psi range to use for different terrains, same as with bias-ply of today but with more of the promised micro compliance resulting in more grip.
I guess we'll see who's next to release a competing design.
I was in need of these for my last ride! Very keen to try a pair.
I was hoping for a 3d view of the radial tire internals. Would have made it clear.
I run a Zipp 3 zero rim, 220mm rotor and powerful brakes and a Push ACS3 coil conversion. This could be the next step to improving the front end of my bike. It was pretty amazing in the Alps this year as it was
I'm definitely getting these tires for next season. If you need a bottom out bumper to protect your current rim and tire hit me up ;)
Testing a radial tyre would be good though.
Nice explanation on how they work but........
Also on the cardboard testing if there was a difference in contact patch it sure wasn't 30%
I'm guessing tyre pressure rim was the same?🤷
Have the Albert tyre on the front and love it. The grip is amazing. May get one for the rear too but run it at a higher pressure. When I got the Albert tyre I increased my pressure from 1 bar to 2 bar 👍
I'm going to say what i said in a comment. The entire benefit of pneumatic tires is that the pressure everywhere in the tire is the same. The area of the contact patch is simply the weight divided by the pressure of the tire. 200lbs on 20PSI tires will give you a 10 square inch area contact patch. Maybe the contact patch is wider?
Won't a more supply tyre make it easier to ding your rim? so then you'll need to increase the pressure to compensate? so then would there be any difference between running the new tyre at higher pressures compared to the old tyre at lower pressures?
He said if you add pressure they still have more contact patch
@@andymtb3212 But he didn't demonstrate it, how much more pressure would you need to add to prevent you from dinging your rim? and would it still have a bigger contact patch compared to the old tyre? I'm not saying it wouldn't, I just need to see some evidence, especially considering the mountain bike industry is full of marketing hype
@@benjy288 exatclty what i was thinking all along. more tyre patch means tyre is deflecting more? so the tyre will get to the rim with less force? pump them up more, so the tyre is deflecting the same amount as a standard tyre and boom the contact patch is the same as would be on a standard tyre. I could be wrong but from how i look at it all you have done is ran more pressure to acheive the same result.
@@gaspertolar7950 Yea, I'm about 78kg and I currently have a syerra front tyre, its 60tpi so its not as supply, but because its not as supply I can run lower pressures at 17psi without any rim strike issues
@@gaspertolar7950the request from the DH team was a tyre that could be run at higher pressures with the same grip. The increase in pressure meant they didn’t need inserts for puncture prevention which in turn gave a performance benefit of reducing the un sprung weight on the bikes leading to wins.
For us consumers, we have the choice of same pressures and more grip or like the DH teams, more pressure and ditching inserts if you run them.
I wonder how these tires play with say.. cushcores for example. Would the sidewall benefit from some support? Or would the pressure be high enough to negate the need. I’m sure the dampness would be taken to a new level! Thoughts?
Also, what are the chances of more contact patch causing burping... lots of questions. Need a whole series on different tests such as how much psi does it take to burp the alberts on the rear with the gravity casing, trail casing, soft, super soft compounds?
They really are a "bit" better than the normal MM Ultrasoft casings. Needed to add a couple psi (20 up to 22) or they give way a bit in the corners, but you do notice a small difference.
I want to run these on my trail bike. But they have no options yet for that discipline. Shredda, Magic Mary and Albert are more in line for Enduro/DH
But if they make one for their hans dampf, wicked will or nobby nick I'll give it a shot!
I got the Albert. Great for "regular" trail (that's basically all we have in my area). Love 'em.
Every time Henry says traditional casing I just think of sausages
My buddy was sheepishly admitted to rocking these when I asked Wtf are those? Must be expensive
Someone said it’s like ground from air suspension to coil. Once winter is over Dirty Dans in dh casing are coming off and two radial Marys are going on.
Will there BE a Downhill casing
I bet it makes a differance. I'm all for a casing that grips better at higher pressures 👍 I ran the DH22 (old wired ones) and I really feel the same thing that Henry talked about on the podcast a while ago about very heacy tyres with stiff casings. You are kinda chasing a level of comliance that you only reach at very low pressures. Which, in turn, is too soft when you hit things hard = bottom out.
If this radial business is the real deal then I can pretty much bet my monthly allowance (aka pay check) that all brands will be introducing similar tech pretty soon.
So they now finally have achieved to make a MTB tire more expensive than a decent car tire? Congratulations 🎉
Agreed. Plus car tyres last 60 to 80 times longer.
Henry, your discussion of the spoked wheel and comparison to a radial tire sounded like complete fiction dressed up as well-intentioned gobbledegook.
Jobst Brandt would be spinning past redline in his grave.
I will give it a try on my DH bike :) ...when I finish front Magic Mary :D
My dilemma... I have a Yeti SB160 with Continental Kryptoal front and rear, love them. Looking for less rolling resistance possibly to help on longer ride days. Was thinking Maxxis forekaster v2, or do I go with the radial Alberta's front and rear. Is rolling resistance any better then my Continental's being I can put more air pressure in the Alberta's and get more grip and compliance?
The Forekaster V2 is awesome. Side lugs still confidently large for turning and burning but rolling resistance is great! Id place it in-between the
Rekon and DHR/F for grip
I'm sorry to say this henry, but I have a hard time keeping up with your videos that are very technical. I'll have to rewatch and give you examples
Add 12:40 do you say traditional tires deflect less? Because you say radial tires are drastically different, but you don't describe this
If you choose the air pressure so that both tires have the same rolling resistance, then I would like to know how the riding experience is or whether the difference cancels out. Everything else sounds like pure marketing to me. The placebo effect is very powerful.
@@bertkreft9689 I’ve heard the knobs on the radials are shorter to compensate for the larger contact patch and rolling resistance.
Haha when you try these youll be amazed. The one thing in mtb that actually makes a difference. And this is coming from a Maxxis guy
That's what I was thinking, if you adjust the air pressure so that both tyres have the same contact patch then what's the difference exactly? just the number on your tyre pressure gauge
@ you cannot think that in numbers, its silly. 30 psi radial feels different and probably still has a way larger cp than a 23 psi non radial. And the point is not to pump them to 50 or keep your non radial at 14 psi.. this thinking is silly and same as if unc had tits hed be an aunt. The feel is the thing, not just the contact patch
@ I'm not thinking in numbers, I'm thinking in contact patch, if you set up both tyres to have the same contact patch and to where you don't have any rim strike issues, then what's the difference between the two exactly? besides the number on your tyre pressure gauge
@Pinkbike - In the last/riding segment, that’s a really nice colour jacket (the burgundy/wine). What is it?
Cars and motorcycles have been 7sing radial for a long time, why just now are bicycles going radial? 🤷♂️
29 PSI additional 10% contact at what rider weight? Surely the rider weight is the most important info here before anything else.
10% more compared to non radial tires. Rider weight is irrelevant.
I think these numbers are bs. If you have 200lbs on tires at 20PSI, you have 10 square inches of contact patch. The area doesn't change unless you change pressure or weight, but the shape might change a little. That's the whole benefit of a pneumatic tire.
Damn things are getting bad for pink bike guys are doing ad eps to pay da bills
Schwalbe is bird, in englisch -a swallow. To swallow someting is -etwas schlucken- in german. It’s wierd or let‘s say it‘s just confusing.
Wow, first tubeless tires, now radials. I for one am excited to see what other 20 year old tech the bicycle community can finally steal from motor vehicles. ABS anyone?
Edit: Correction, radial tires were invented in the 40's and became standard in the 80's, so that's at least 40 year old tech finally introduced in 2025. Also, I am in no way suggesting ABS would be a good idea offroad, though off-road ABS does exists on newer dual sport motorcycles. So by my calculations MTBs will have it around 2065.
They already are working on that.
Bosche iin conjunction with Magura have already done that too. Primarily designed for cargo and e-bikes though.
ABS is the worst idea ever on a mountain bike
Abs would take so much of the fun out of mtb. Please no. Maybe for ebikes and the people that want..... That. Not for the adrenaline junkies
@@FreeTimeFeats ABS would be plain dangerous on a mountain bike, imagine riding a steep double black and ABS decides to release some brake pressure because it thinks that your wheel is about to lock, that's not what anyone would ever want to happen
These tires are not bad, just not worth the price. Increased suppleness is mostly negated by the high pressure you'll need to run. I will not buy them again unless they are cheaper than the regular casing.
Trail speed
Science is cool and all but I'd rather just have the ride review.
10% of what ?This is the big bussines of the really small changes this days...
Man - please lay off the noise reduction - great videos but listening to robots is tiresome.
Will we ever get any non-sponsored content on here again? PB fell off.
It is not Schwalbi…little bit later in video… thank you please 🤣
What does he know about tires? This is just filler.
Schwalbe.... Solving a tubeless problem whilst creating a different tubeless problem. Someone should do an article on a taped and tubed tyre v tubeless radial tyres.
It's not even a proper radial tyre.
What's to stop it from bottoming out then 🤷
Dont buy it then 😂 people comment negative stuff only because they get the urge to try but need convincing and dont want to spend the money and then they do and are like wow I was mistaken. Dumb
@DandyHippo If you want to try, I don't care.
But I'm not falling for this BS
@@parkinkevin i have ridden them 😂 okay mr know it all stick with the shittier tyres 😂😂
Reputable MTB review sites are saying that it is all marketing hype and 95% of riders wouldn't even notice.
It is completely noticeable. Name the frauds.
@@dommer742 Congratulations! I knew that I would bring out the Elite %5 of MTB riders with this comment.
I haven't ridden them but it sounds like most reviewers I follow say it is noticeable. Some may disagree on if they like it or not but most do notice.