I completely agree with everything in the video. Once I put magic marrys front and back , it’s like I have additional 10 mm of suspension travel and also the traction is on another level. I immediately set PRs on each trail I ride so far.
I concur what you said about psi. That’s exactly what I told one of my friend at Nevada city few days back. The first run on hoots trail felt dead to me with higher psi. Then on second run I went back to my regular psi and the bike woke up. It felt so so good 🤙🏼
Yes, add psi judiciously as it kills the advantage. Also, 6 psi higher increases the rebound speed of the tire (to a level you're not used to) and it's not a great experience.
Unrelated question pls: Nevada City still rideable right now? Just chilly? I noticed your comment was 5h ago and you mentioned NC a couple days ago 😂. I was thinking it might be too late in the season, even tho it’s not too high in elevation. Thanks!!
I got the CYCPLUS back in May when you originally mentioned it. It's great. Got a front tire leak on a trail and being able to stop and fill it up quickly (3 times) got me back to the car without the hassle of changing the tube.
I think that is one of the hidden benefits of this pump. One can nurse a slow leak back to the car and then do a proper tubeless repair back in the garage. Not really possible with a hand pump or CO2.
I was running Assegai/DHR2 combo, but now I am a convert to Schwalbe after trying out Shredda tires on my eMTB (2025 Rise LT). So much better traction and comfort. A trail I like features jagged rock garden and I feel so much more comfort and confidence.
Good video, I have the Magic Marry Ultra soft radial trail 2.5 front and an Albert Soft Gravity 2.6 rear, love them, total game changer. The Alberts seem narrow, the 2.6 isn't wider than the 2.5 Magic Mary.
Very nice! Yes Soft rear and Uktra Soft front seems to be the ticket in Schwalbe nomenclature. The Albert 2.6s seem narrow and mislabeled. Should have been called 2.4
I just put it on mine magic mary front and albert rear and yeah can confirm i like how it took the edge off trail chatter👍. I noticed i wears off easily!? My old kryptotals looks new after few rides. But this radial tire looks worn in after first ride. Will see how it goes as far as longevity.
The first instance of how different the radial tire was when Amuray won the 2024 Val di Sole World Cup Downhill by over 5 seconds, in the mud and rain - one of the slippiest races of the season. Those 'secret' radials he was running gave him quite an edge over the competition. Now, we have that tech available. However, take away the downhill casing (much stiffer) and you're left with what you describe as 'the squirm'. It's this reason why radials have not taken over the off-road and motocross world (where bias ply tires remain the standard), yet in the road race and street bike realms, radial tires now reign supreme. I can recall in the late 80's/early 90's when radial tires for street motorcycles came on the scene. When you ran radial tires on an older bike, the extra compliance and increased contact patch would stress the frames and suspension beyond what the designers accounted for and really showed how noodly the bike frames and suspension were back then. The compliance caused a bit of an arms race to address excessive frame and suspension flex due to the extra compliance and increased contact patch as the frames and suspension of that era could not handle it. That you have to increase tire pressure 5-6 psi over what you normally run to get some sidewall stiffness back into the tire (instead of 'the squirm'), makes me wonder if the same problems back then are here again..... I wonder if mountain bikes will go thru a similar story arc? Have you noticed that you might need to adjust your suspension to accommodate the radial ride dynamics? Or, how the feel changes going from a 38mm chassis enduro fork to a 34/35mm chassis all mountain fork?
You really only run into side wall stiffness with berms. Normal trail ride you usually don't have that kind of pressure sideways as you need something berm like to produce it. So might work well with bikes. I would personally make that trade off.
@@rawmancemtb I hear ya, but those off-camber situations where you gotta push into it, to stay up - or even schralping a corner might present some technique re-evaluations for these new tires. I do have a hunch that the tradeoffs are more than worth the ride quality improvements people have already experienced. Can't wait for 'tire-wars 2025' as all the other brands scramble to catch up......
Glad it was helpful! This is one of those modern products that is worth trying. For lighter riders, it is insanely good since we now have a casing that's compliant enough. Most casings are made to withstand 200+ lb riders.
Albert’s roll much faster and is a great rear tire. My preference is an Albert rear and MM front. MM front and rear are not good for speed needed to clear jumps and stuff. Great review by the way. You feel less fatigued because the tires take the initial hit. Then the wheels, suspension, and then arms/legs. If the tire removes all the smaller bumps, the suspension barely needs to move. I tell my buddies that radial tires made a bigger difference than going from an air shock to coil shock!!
Much thanks for your insight. Yeah, vibrations are mostly gone too. I think I can dial in my suspension now to support me with low speed damping and not worry about small bump too much. Tires got that now!
Tried the Alberts and like the feel but the knobs are too small and tightly packed for my liking. I then tried thr Shredda R on the front and rear and absolutely love it. Its my new favorite tire for the Ebike. 25psi front , 30psi rear.
@@justsayin3600 with Cushcore, one ca go really low on pressure and have the ultimate comfort and traction. The cushcore can take care of lateral stability. duties and rim strikes
“… instantly you’re gonna lose sales… “ I don’t know anybody who would decide against a bike because of its spec tyres 😂😂😂 Nevertheless, a very insightful and revealing review, thanks for this!
:) I'm not saying a lot of sales, maybe a few. It's the main reason why everyone specs Maxxis. It's what over 50% use. Affects reviews and test rides. There's better tires finally and I'm stoked.
I had to go to 24 from 20 front and 28 from 25 rear. The casing would roll and rim strikes and the lower pressures. Running the Shredda F and Shredda rear. Super Gravity/Ultra Soft. Absolutely the best tires I have ever used. Rocky Mountain powerplay aluminum.
Finally got my hands on some Alberts and was able to ride them last weekend (was 60 degrees instead of the usual 30). Wow. The hype is real. One of the few times I've tried something new on a bike and felt a big difference over something more (or less) incremental.
I can vouch for the Cycplus with display. Very handy for exactly the reasons you mention. Fast recharge too. They say they're a certain amount waterproof, but I had one fail, possibly due to a small amount of water ingress. So use the bag it comes with to be sure.
@@EMTBReviewthe radials were designed to have the same grip at higher pressure to eliminate the need for inserts at the request of Schwalbe’s DH teams. The findings of the Vital MTB test placing the radials as the fastest rolling tyre were interesting as on paper they should be the draggiest. This fits in with your observations.
Hey Francis lovin the channel, & this review. Think you hit the nail on the head with the sidewalls -- the Vital guys weren't liking the squirm at all (& they're most def on the pro side o things!), while my old ass got a pair of Albert gravity's & they're gamechangers for me -- can't wait to try a set of magic mary radials!!
I agree with you, it's a whole new experience, eh? It's sooo much of what mountain biking needs. Traciton, comfort, dampening, contact patch, climbing, braking. As far as squirm, folks have to open their minds IMHO and not look for the old experience of vibration. If the squirm is still really bothersome after a few rides, add some air to the rear.
I use them. I noticed immediately how much smoother they are. And improved traction. Using the Albert's on winter bike. I also think battery range is improved..testing that
Dang, just this week I put brand new Assegais on the front of both my Levo SL and Enduro! But I gotta try this. Francis - how are these for in terms of rim protection compared to other tires?
How well do these do for an acoustic trail bike? Right now I’m running a Disector/Aggresor on a Pivot Trail 429. Any recommendations on some Schwalbes to try?
I would argue that most all current MTB tires are radials - if you look at the definition. I have cut a few old Schwalbe and Maxxis tires to confirm. I think the biggest thing on these is that they have a more aggressive layup with arguably better materials, but more importantly, enough layers for sidewall support with less across the top for terrain suppleness. Reminds me of my MX tuires testing way back when. My problem is that being a bigger guy low pressures feel garbage to me and I get far too much sideways motion. Great evaluation however - very easily assimilated by a few casual riders I had watch.
Well, I wasn't really interested before because of marketing hype...but Francis is bringing more objectivity than most emtb influencers consistently, so maybe.😁
I order a pair radial magic M & shreeda rear, normally i run 28/29 on my yeti160e based on calculator. Will try from there on my radials. Btw cyplus only downside it is a torch, it gets the valves so dam hots.
Hey, so I am running the soft compound in the rear 27.5x2.4 GC, from what I have seen Schwalbe only only had Soft GC in 27.5 not 29 that I have seen at least, my buddy is running a 29er Ultrasoft GC and it is wearing a little quicker then my soft casing.
I just went to buy cycplus pro max. It said it was not available to ship and would be removed from my cart. Do you have a link and coupon for shipping in California?
What were you running for front and back combo? I was thinking about buying these tires for my e-bike…sorry if I missed if you mentioned it in your video 🍻🇨🇦
Awesome again, however I have these now on my Levo and hate them. The ones I have is are the Albert ultra soft trail front and gravity soft rear and the drag is incredible felt like I was attached to a bungee cord. I expected the weight to increase but gravity is so heavy compared to the stock tires and the bike just felt a dead lump. I’m 185 lbs and had to increase the rear to 34 psi and front to 27 psi to try and combat the drag but the bike just felt numb. Gave then plenty of rides but had to go back to stock setup
I have the same compound setup. At first I thought they were just ok. Then after the break-in period, the tires really came alive. Were yours broken in before you swapped back to stock? If not, might be why you initially didn’t like them.
If you’re not using them and don’t want them anymore I’d like to give them a try on my Rise if you don’t mind selling them? I was going to get the trail carcass on both and soft rear, ultra soft front to keep the wear and weight down. But I’d be happy to try them both out to see. Let me know, thanks :)
No, I do have inserts though so should try. These are going to be so tunable since they’re so supple to begin with. Inserts can help dial in the sidewall
You're supposed to run slightly higher pressure than what you run on biasply tires to reduce rim dings. what they set you at 6 psi more is a bit too much. Setting too low will feel squirmy in turns/off camber and pinch flat so you'll have to figure out that sweet spot.
Yes, inserts are a good idea for protection and performance if rock strikes are common in your rides. Adding air is an option but that speeds up the rebound speed of the tire and that is not ideal. Also some of the compliance advantages is lost
Cornering is world class. With a wide rim, even at 20psi for my 155 lb weight, I have so much traction! Bigger contact patch, solid knobs is very confidence inspiring. The Shredda is a mighty tire in the front and I don't think myself and the testers are able to push it yet.
Thanks Francis, for the independent review. Good to have people like you out there who can stay independent. I’m doing the same thing. I’m planning on trying the radials on my next set on the EXe. I really like the Schwalbe tires. However, one thing that does not “compute” - the effective contact patch for any given tire with the same internal pressure must be the same. It’s physics. If you have a contact patch of 5 sq-in and 20 psi then you are resisting 100 lbs. Maybe the contact patch is a different shape or it reacts more quickly or the lateral resistance is less - something is happening that you feel - but the contact patch is the same. Schwalbe sort of says this but also says ‘Bigger contact patch” - I’m sure the engineers cringed at that. The pin test you did is relevant to hitting rocks though, (since the pin area does not increase as force increases - unlike a flat surface). This is probably the difference - deflection while passing over a rock allowing the bike to pass without fully supporting the rider - but it’s not the average contact patch. Keeping this in mind, I can see where a pinch flat may be more likely with the same psi as non “radial”, and the ride will be different with more flexible tire (softer over rocks, less supportive on turns, or braking). Thanks again.
I think you have missed the point of casing design entirely Imagine a tyre made of paper at 21 psi and a dh casing tyre at 21 psi That’s physics. You completely missed the fact that casings have structural properties I’ve been testing the radials and they too are my new favourites. They have inserts and strong sidewalls so don’t pinch flat nor squirm significantly. They feel very different and extremely comfortable but some people mistake that for squirm Trust this helps
@@Mveesyes, I didn’t really think of that, your right. If the sidewall can provide some vertical support down to the ground without distributing the pressure across the entire contact patch, then that will reduce the contact patch in exchange for an uneven ground contact pressure. This happens with over or under inflated tires on road vehicles as evident by tire wear. If tire is designed correctly and proper inflation is used then it should have even pressure across entire patch in which case contact patches will be equal. Maybe these modified thread angles are resolving issues they noticed. Of course they are not truly radially directed threads, just more so than their others. I need to try them for sure but need to wear my others out first.
And you have missed the point of how much pressure is required to achieve any given area of contact. If a different pressure is required to get your 5 sq inches, either higher or, indeed, lower, for that given contact patch, you get a different performance from the casing, even if the casing somehow (perhaps by a miracle!) otherwise performs identically at any given pressure. In other words, this is an example of the complexity of confounding variables.
Didn’t miss that. It was just an example. Given the same weight, the contact patch increases as the pressure goes down as I think you are saying. The point I was apparently unsuccessful at making is that the contact patch is the area of tire pushing down on the ground and pressure times area is the force. Same force, same pressure, same contact patch. Of course, as @evveees925 points out, this ignores the idea that the side wall could create an uneven contact patch pressure. The Schwalbe traffic if problematic however as it does not indicate this at all. It shows the force concentrated in the center as the same in both cases. Just works for marketing I guess.
Right on, thank you for you great share. PSI is key but I think tire material is a variable as well. Something as stiff as a garden hose will have a different contact patch to balloon for example.
@EMTBReview yeah, since didnt use ebike im looking good compromise, double albert maybe could improve the rolling but not sure if will lose cornering grip against assegai or magic mary, even riding many times in hardpack conditions
I have liked Schwalbe tires (Nobby Nic and MM) however, they don't like my riding style, apparently Blown the casing on every Schwalbe I've put on my eMTB... and I am a Sr 'Citizen'
That press test looks like the edge knobs would fold under hard cornering, it also looks like you would need to run higher pressure to reduce rim strikes
@@EMTBReview But wouldn't raising the pressure kind of negate the added suppleness benefit? and I assume the sidewall is just as supple? if so I assume you would have to raise the pressure to avoid the sidewall rolling while cornering?
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Have you tried their Eddy Current E-MTB optimized tread? I wonder how it compares. I just got them after the Albert launched for my '23 turbo levo.
I completely agree with everything in the video. Once I put magic marrys front and back , it’s like I have additional 10 mm of suspension travel and also the traction is on another level. I immediately set PRs on each trail I ride so far.
Thanks for sharing! Effects are dramatic
I find the greatest benefit is the soft and damped ride. It feels like your suspension has been tuned with perfect compression
Man,that sounds like just the ticket for my Spot Rocker h-tail.
I concur what you said about psi. That’s exactly what I told one of my friend at Nevada city few days back. The first run on hoots trail felt dead to me with higher psi. Then on second run I went back to my regular psi and the bike woke up. It felt so so good 🤙🏼
Yes, add psi judiciously as it kills the advantage. Also, 6 psi higher increases the rebound speed of the tire (to a level you're not used to) and it's not a great experience.
Unrelated question pls: Nevada City still rideable right now? Just chilly? I noticed your comment was 5h ago and you mentioned NC a couple days ago 😂. I was thinking it might be too late in the season, even tho it’s not too high in elevation. Thanks!!
@@ShredQuestMTB i was there this past Saturday and did Hoots, Talon, shimmer, permagrin and some pioneer. It was running great. I did hoots thrice.
Impressive demonstration on the pliability of the carcass! Subscribed!
Glad you enjoyed it, the carcass is wild!
I got the CYCPLUS back in May when you originally mentioned it. It's great. Got a front tire leak on a trail and being able to stop and fill it up quickly (3 times) got me back to the car without the hassle of changing the tube.
I think that is one of the hidden benefits of this pump. One can nurse a slow leak back to the car and then do a proper tubeless repair back in the garage.
Not really possible with a hand pump or CO2.
I was running Assegai/DHR2 combo, but now I am a convert to Schwalbe after trying out Shredda tires on my eMTB (2025 Rise LT). So much better traction and comfort. A trail I like features jagged rock garden and I feel so much more comfort and confidence.
These tires deliver speed, safety, and comfort. It's like a suspension design upgrade or fork/shock upgrade
Interesting I'm in
Good video, I have the Magic Marry Ultra soft radial trail 2.5 front and an Albert Soft Gravity 2.6 rear, love them, total game changer. The Alberts seem narrow, the 2.6 isn't wider than the 2.5 Magic Mary.
Very nice! Yes Soft rear and Uktra Soft front seems to be the ticket in Schwalbe nomenclature.
The Albert 2.6s seem narrow and mislabeled. Should have been called 2.4
I'm looking at running the same combo but just not sure if I should go with the 2.5 or 2.6 Albert on the rear.
@@wbd3159 If you running an Enduro bike or an Emtb I'd go for the 2.6
Good demo. I'm looking forward to trying these!
Let me know what you think of them. They’re not cheap, but I think they definitely worth trying.
I just put it on mine magic mary front and albert rear and yeah can confirm i like how it took the edge off trail chatter👍. I noticed i wears off easily!? My old kryptotals looks new after few rides. But this radial tire looks worn in after first ride. Will see how it goes as far as longevity.
The first instance of how different the radial tire was when Amuray won the 2024 Val di Sole World Cup Downhill by over 5 seconds, in the mud and rain - one of the slippiest races of the season. Those 'secret' radials he was running gave him quite an edge over the competition. Now, we have that tech available. However, take away the downhill casing (much stiffer) and you're left with what you describe as 'the squirm'. It's this reason why radials have not taken over the off-road and motocross world (where bias ply tires remain the standard), yet in the road race and street bike realms, radial tires now reign supreme. I can recall in the late 80's/early 90's when radial tires for street motorcycles came on the scene. When you ran radial tires on an older bike, the extra compliance and increased contact patch would stress the frames and suspension beyond what the designers accounted for and really showed how noodly the bike frames and suspension were back then. The compliance caused a bit of an arms race to address excessive frame and suspension flex due to the extra compliance and increased contact patch as the frames and suspension of that era could not handle it. That you have to increase tire pressure 5-6 psi over what you normally run to get some sidewall stiffness back into the tire (instead of 'the squirm'), makes me wonder if the same problems back then are here again..... I wonder if mountain bikes will go thru a similar story arc? Have you noticed that you might need to adjust your suspension to accommodate the radial ride dynamics? Or, how the feel changes going from a 38mm chassis enduro fork to a 34/35mm chassis all mountain fork?
You really only run into side wall stiffness with berms. Normal trail ride you usually don't have that kind of pressure sideways as you need something berm like to produce it. So might work well with bikes. I would personally make that trade off.
@@rawmancemtb I hear ya, but those off-camber situations where you gotta push into it, to stay up - or even schralping a corner might present some technique re-evaluations for these new tires. I do have a hunch that the tradeoffs are more than worth the ride quality improvements people have already experienced. Can't wait for 'tire-wars 2025' as all the other brands scramble to catch up......
Such a helpful insight.. I am going to try the Mary Radial up front (current on Tacky Chan front and rear)
Glad it was helpful! This is one of those modern products that is worth trying. For lighter riders, it is insanely good since we now have a casing that's compliant enough. Most casings are made to withstand 200+ lb riders.
Albert’s roll much faster and is a great rear tire.
My preference is an Albert rear and MM front. MM front and rear are not good for speed needed to clear jumps and stuff.
Great review by the way.
You feel less fatigued because the tires take the initial hit. Then the wheels, suspension, and then arms/legs. If the tire removes all the smaller bumps, the suspension barely needs to move. I tell my buddies that radial tires made a bigger difference than going from an air shock to coil shock!!
Much thanks for your insight. Yeah, vibrations are mostly gone too.
I think I can dial in my suspension now to support me with low speed damping and not worry about small bump too much. Tires got that now!
Currently running a Schwalbe Big Betty in super gravity casing for the rear tire and Gravity casing "radial" Magic Mary up front. Stoked 👌
Those are a killer combination!
Tried the Alberts and like the feel but the knobs are too small and tightly packed for my liking. I then tried thr Shredda R on the front and rear and absolutely love it. Its my new favorite tire for the Ebike. 25psi front , 30psi rear.
Yeah, the Alberts are more for hardpack. Magic Mary and Shredda are more for loose conditions.
I wonder how this will feel with CushCore specifically?
@@justsayin3600 with Cushcore, one ca go really low on pressure and have the ultimate comfort and traction. The cushcore can take care of lateral stability. duties and rim strikes
“… instantly you’re gonna lose sales… “ I don’t know anybody who would decide against a bike because of its spec tyres 😂😂😂
Nevertheless, a very insightful and revealing review, thanks for this!
:) I'm not saying a lot of sales, maybe a few.
It's the main reason why everyone specs Maxxis. It's what over 50% use. Affects reviews and test rides. There's better tires finally and I'm stoked.
I had to go to 24 from 20 front and 28 from 25 rear. The casing would roll and rim strikes and the lower pressures. Running the Shredda F and Shredda rear. Super Gravity/Ultra Soft. Absolutely the best tires I have ever used. Rocky Mountain powerplay aluminum.
So so good to hear my good man.
Great video as always! Do you think magic Mary front and Shredda rear could be a good all round setup?
Finally got my hands on some Alberts and was able to ride them last weekend (was 60 degrees instead of the usual 30). Wow. The hype is real. One of the few times I've tried something new on a bike and felt a big difference over something more (or less) incremental.
I think that's the shocking thing... the difference is dramatic, unlike most bike changes. It's like the..... dropper post. :)
I can vouch for the Cycplus with display. Very handy for exactly the reasons you mention. Fast recharge too. They say they're a certain amount waterproof, but I had one fail, possibly due to a small amount of water ingress. So use the bag it comes with to be sure.
So good! If one fails, contact their customer support and they'll replace. The old Cycplus units did not come with a bag
With the more compliant tires, don't you have to worry about rim strikes more?
Correct, that is the concern with more compliant tires. Frequent rim strikes will require more pressure, a tougher casing, or inserts.
@@EMTBReviewthe radials were designed to have the same grip at higher pressure to eliminate the need for inserts at the request of Schwalbe’s DH teams. The findings of the Vital MTB test placing the radials as the fastest rolling tyre were interesting as on paper they should be the draggiest. This fits in with your observations.
Well done. I really enjoyed your video.
I learned a lot myself and that is a good sign.
great vid again - and nice jump haha.
Thank you sir!!!!!!
Hey Francis lovin the channel, & this review. Think you hit the nail on the head with the sidewalls -- the Vital guys weren't liking the squirm at all (& they're most def on the pro side o things!), while my old ass got a pair of Albert gravity's & they're gamechangers for me -- can't wait to try a set of magic mary radials!!
I agree with you, it's a whole new experience, eh? It's sooo much of what mountain biking needs. Traciton, comfort, dampening, contact patch, climbing, braking.
As far as squirm, folks have to open their minds IMHO and not look for the old experience of vibration. If the squirm is still really bothersome after a few rides, add some air to the rear.
I use them. I noticed immediately how much smoother they are. And improved traction. Using the Albert's on winter bike. I also think battery range is improved..testing that
Yeah! I'm finding them a lot smoother too. The affect on range will be interesting. Compliant tires have less rolling resistance on rough terrain!
I love Albert for hardpack and Mary Radial for Loose conditions
Exactly what I'm hearing!
i ridden it +20bike day the albert radial an agree to the whole video, additional i can say, it reduces at least my arm pump drastically!
Dang, just this week I put brand new Assegais on the front of both my Levo SL and Enduro! But I gotta try this. Francis - how are these for in terms of rim protection compared to other tires?
Love your channel ❤️, have a wild .lets hear how shuttle lt compares please 🙏
That is on the list, stay tuned! I'm getting deep insight on Wild now
How well do these do for an acoustic trail bike? Right now I’m running a Disector/Aggresor on a Pivot Trail 429. Any recommendations on some Schwalbes to try?
Some say the Magic Mary is a slow climber. So Albert/Albert or Albert rear, Magic Mary front is a good combo to try
I would argue that most all current MTB tires are radials - if you look at the definition. I have cut a few old Schwalbe and Maxxis tires to confirm. I think the biggest thing on these is that they have a more aggressive layup with arguably better materials, but more importantly, enough layers for sidewall support with less across the top for terrain suppleness. Reminds me of my MX tuires testing way back when. My problem is that being a bigger guy low pressures feel garbage to me and I get far too much sideways motion.
Great evaluation however - very easily assimilated by a few casual riders I had watch.
This is an awesome observation. Yes, these tires are an enigma. I’m happy to experience them and learn more
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Well, I wasn't really interested before because of marketing hype...but Francis is bringing more objectivity than most emtb influencers consistently, so maybe.😁
Don't listen to marketing hype... just my hype. :)
I order a pair radial magic M & shreeda rear, normally i run 28/29 on my yeti160e based on calculator. Will try from there on my radials. Btw cyplus only downside it is a torch, it gets the valves so dam hots.
Ahhh, the heat is more an issue when they are used to 100 psi.
There’s that silicone case for that btw
Albert Front and Tacky Chan Rear both in Gravity Casing so far for me is the best Combo! Try it and you will not go back to the OTHER brand!
That sounds like a great combo. I’ll have to give it a go! Only thing is the Tacky Channis not available in radial yet. But I will try it
Hi every body says tacky chan wears too easy? So not many miles with that tire, did you feel it?
Hey, so I am running the soft compound in the rear 27.5x2.4 GC, from what I have seen Schwalbe only only had Soft GC in 27.5 not 29 that I have seen at least, my buddy is running a 29er Ultrasoft GC and it is wearing a little quicker then my soft casing.
What about rim and spoke fatigue? The less ridged nature makes me think it is more vulnerable to dents and worse tacoing.
Great review! What do you think of the Trail versus the Gravity casing? I think the Vala came with the Trail up front.
I think Trail is great up front, Gravity in the rear for more support.
We don't live in very rocky areas so our needs are not very demanding.
@@EMTBReviewhaha not rocky but you’re coming down Stiles in the video. But, I agree other than that place not too rocky.
Sounds great. My question is will this be ok for a carbon rim? I’m in the market right now for new tires for my new trek 9.8 XT. Thank you.
Yes, absolutely. Carbon rim is absolutely no problem. If you keep hitting the rim, raise the PSI or use an insert.
I just went to buy cycplus pro max. It said it was not available to ship and would be removed from my cart. Do you have a link and coupon for shipping in California?
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What were you running for front and back combo? I was thinking about buying these tires for my e-bike…sorry if I missed if you mentioned it in your video 🍻🇨🇦
On the Shuttle LT are Shredda front and Magic Mary rear. I'm about to try Shredda front and rear.
Awesome again, however I have these now on my Levo and hate them.
The ones I have is are the Albert ultra soft trail front and gravity soft rear and the drag is incredible felt like I was attached to a bungee cord.
I expected the weight to increase but gravity is so heavy compared to the stock tires and the bike just felt a dead lump. I’m 185 lbs and had to increase the rear to 34 psi and front to 27 psi to try and combat the drag but the bike just felt numb.
Gave then plenty of rides but had to go back to stock setup
I have the same compound setup. At first I thought they were just ok. Then after the break-in period, the tires really came alive. Were yours broken in before you swapped back to stock? If not, might be why you initially didn’t like them.
Right on, you gave em a try. I'd recommend the Michelin Wild Enduro Magi-x if you want the ultimate traction alnk.to/c08RwKR
If you’re not using them and don’t want them anymore I’d like to give them a try on my Rise if you don’t mind selling them?
I was going to get the trail carcass on both and soft rear, ultra soft front to keep the wear and weight down. But I’d be happy to try them both out to see.
Let me know, thanks :)
The question is the speed on dry terrain ?
The Albert is reportedly great with speed and grip on dry, hardpack.
Have you tried them with cushcore inserts?
No, I do have inserts though so should try. These are going to be so tunable since they’re so supple to begin with. Inserts can help dial in the sidewall
You're supposed to run slightly higher pressure than what you run on biasply tires to reduce rim dings. what they set you at 6 psi more is a bit too much. Setting too low will feel squirmy in turns/off camber and pinch flat so you'll have to figure out that sweet spot.
Exactly! It’s like suspension that I am be tuned. Small bump sensitivity, finally!!!!!!
I cannot find the cycplus pro max for sale anywhere. How can I buy it?
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Where is he riding? Looks dope
I’m riding in Santa Cruz. Where do you live?
I suspect in order to stop shattering carbon rims with radial tires you will need to run some kind of cushcore if the tire deforms so much.
Yes, inserts are a good idea for protection and performance if rock strikes are common in your rides.
Adding air is an option but that speeds up the rebound speed of the tire and that is not ideal. Also some of the compliance advantages is lost
what about support in corners? seems like it would wallow
Cornering is world class. With a wide rim, even at 20psi for my 155 lb weight, I have so much traction! Bigger contact patch, solid knobs is very confidence inspiring. The Shredda is a mighty tire in the front and I don't think myself and the testers are able to push it yet.
Just another great review.
Shame im on the other side of the world I reckon you would be mad fun to go attack some trails with.
I appreciate the kind words and yes, it would be epic to shred some trails with you! Post ride party and beers!!!
Are Radial tyres available in 26 inch?
No, and I doubt they ever will unfortunately.
@EMTBReview is 26 dead ?
Thanks Francis, for the independent review. Good to have people like you out there who can stay independent. I’m doing the same thing. I’m planning on trying the radials on my next set on the EXe. I really like the Schwalbe tires. However, one thing that does not “compute” - the effective contact patch for any given tire with the same internal pressure must be the same. It’s physics. If you have a contact patch of 5 sq-in and 20 psi then you are resisting 100 lbs. Maybe the contact patch is a different shape or it reacts more quickly or the lateral resistance is less - something is happening that you feel - but the contact patch is the same. Schwalbe sort of says this but also says ‘Bigger contact patch” - I’m sure the engineers cringed at that. The pin test you did is relevant to hitting rocks though, (since the pin area does not increase as force increases - unlike a flat surface). This is probably the difference - deflection while passing over a rock allowing the bike to pass without fully supporting the rider - but it’s not the average contact patch. Keeping this in mind, I can see where a pinch flat may be more likely with the same psi as non “radial”, and the ride will be different with more flexible tire (softer over rocks, less supportive on turns, or braking). Thanks again.
I think you have missed the point of casing design entirely
Imagine a tyre made of paper at 21 psi and a dh casing tyre at 21 psi
That’s physics. You completely missed the fact that casings have structural properties
I’ve been testing the radials and they too are my new favourites. They have inserts and strong sidewalls so don’t pinch flat nor squirm significantly. They feel very different and extremely comfortable but some people mistake that for squirm
Trust this helps
@@Mveesyes, I didn’t really think of that, your right. If the sidewall can provide some vertical support down to the ground without distributing the pressure across the entire contact patch, then that will reduce the contact patch in exchange for an uneven ground contact pressure. This happens with over or under inflated tires on road vehicles as evident by tire wear. If tire is designed correctly and proper inflation is used then it should have even pressure across entire patch in which case contact patches will be equal. Maybe these modified thread angles are resolving issues they noticed. Of course they are not truly radially directed threads, just more so than their others. I need to try them for sure but need to wear my others out first.
And you have missed the point of how much pressure is required to achieve any given area of contact. If a different pressure is required to get your 5 sq inches, either higher or, indeed, lower, for that given contact patch, you get a different performance from the casing, even if the casing somehow (perhaps by a miracle!) otherwise performs identically at any given pressure. In other words, this is an example of the complexity of confounding variables.
Didn’t miss that. It was just an example. Given the same weight, the contact patch increases as the pressure goes down as I think you are saying. The point I was apparently unsuccessful at making is that the contact patch is the area of tire pushing down on the ground and pressure times area is the force. Same force, same pressure, same contact patch. Of course, as @evveees925 points out, this ignores the idea that the side wall could create an uneven contact patch pressure. The Schwalbe traffic if problematic however as it does not indicate this at all. It shows the force concentrated in the center as the same in both cases. Just works for marketing I guess.
Right on, thank you for you great share. PSI is key but I think tire material is a variable as well. Something as stiff as a garden hose will have a different contact patch to balloon for example.
Hi! For muscular enduro what will recomend like assegai/ dhr combo but in radials! Albert/ albert? Magic mary/ albert? thanks
I would say Magic Mary front, Albert rear. Someone told me Magic Mary is a slow climbing tire. My Bosch motor hides that. :)
@EMTBReview yeah, since didnt use ebike im looking good compromise, double albert maybe could improve the rolling but not sure if will lose cornering grip against assegai or magic mary, even riding many times in hardpack conditions
enjoy them DD's
Dirty Dans are legit I hear
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Can you review the 2025 Orbea wild please? 🙏
That is coming this week for sure
Are the tires true to size?
I'll measure. They're right in line with Schwalbe. They call these 2.5 and they look like Assegai 2.5s. I'll measure tomorrow.
NO, they are really narrow, especially the Albert
I have liked Schwalbe tires (Nobby Nic and MM) however, they don't like my riding style, apparently
Blown the casing on every Schwalbe I've put on my eMTB... and I am a Sr 'Citizen'
Magic Mary was a better tyre than the Assegai even without the radial platform
Lasts longer and much better construction for sure
Been riding Maxxis my entire life. Might be time to switch if the hype is real.
It is time to try this Magic Mary Radial. Assegai is good but wears down quick and attracts a lot of mud in the winter.
The tires really perform after they are broken in.
And I bet you they break in sooner. So compliant right away!!!
That press test looks like the edge knobs would fold under hard cornering, it also looks like you would need to run higher pressure to reduce rim strikes
Traction is so good. Pressure can be added if rim strikes are an issue. If not, enjoy the cush and the grip
@@EMTBReview But wouldn't raising the pressure kind of negate the added suppleness benefit? and I assume the sidewall is just as supple? if so I assume you would have to raise the pressure to avoid the sidewall rolling while cornering?
not a fan on the rear, squirm city.
maybe not for you then. I might recommend the Michelin Wild Enduro Mag-x
wear and tear?
Seem solid so far after hundreds of miles!!! Typical Schwalbe which holds up better than Minions
Garbage tires, sloppy, squishy, worst traction I’ve felt in a long time. Gimmicky
There is squirm but to claim ‘worst traction’ is delusional
Thinking about getting the Shredda and still using my Cushcore pro inserts, how will they work together?
They should work so, so good. Best of all worlds.