I few the Tweet as a Cadet in the last class of Aviation Cadets. The one maneuver that sticks in my mind is the aggressive recovery technique used in spin recovery. In an "accelerated" spin, your helmet would be pinned to the side of the canopy. Impressive! It was almost too easy to land given its wide stance and low profile. A big disadvantage was that the instructor was sitting right next to you. Mine used to grab my O2 hose and shake my head around if I screwed up a maneuver. Fond memories...
Loved the Tweet! Always wanted to crew them in the Air Force but wasn't that fortunate. The engines at idle emitted such a shriek that we called it the 10,000lb dog whistle. Who knew that Cessna could build a jet that reliable and at that performance level.
The Tweet's piercing engine sound was something to hear up close as an SP on the flightline, you had to move away if you had no hearing protection. The igloos in the WSA in the background as he taxis in also brings back memories, but of SAC.
I didn't enjoy my time as a student in the Tweet during the Fall, 1972. I just couldn't get the hang of it. Didn't bust any rides, but didn't impress anyone with my golden hands either. My first ride in a T-38 was like walking out of the darkness onto a sunlit plain, lol. I did great in the T-38 and ended up as a T-38 IP at graduation. Went on to fly Buffs and Bones until retirement.
Nice, I've always loved this plane. My neighbor landed one when he wad training in the Navy It sure looked like one. You were an instructor? Must have been an awesome job.
The Tweet was the most photogenic airplane according to (I think) Air Combat magazine back in the 1970's. I have 85 hrs on the Tweet from pilot training.
AKA "The 5000 pound machine designed to turn JP-4 into NOISE & SMOKE. Now that I've completed UPT/Flying Career I'd LOVE to Own & fly one again! Great airplane they had to put strakes on it to teach Spin Recoveries. Throttles Idle, Rudder & Ailerons Neutral, Stick Abruptly Full Aft & Hold...after 50+ years flying & I still remember the Memory Action Items.😊🫡
On one ACE local flight the KC-135 copilot I was flying a T-37B with, we logged 2.6 hours on one tank of gas. Feb 25, 1983 in 68-8028. We left the a/c knob pulled out(no bleed air from the engines for cockpit heating), climb-out/cruise and just flew the confines of our local MOA, (FAGUS MOA) at L/D airspeed which I think was 140KIAS at FL250. After 2 hours of that we flew back to KBYH at FL250/140KIAS. intending to hold overhead the base. We wanted to see if we could log a 3:00 hour sortie. Captain Steve Prowell, the ACE detachment commander had us land : “We don’t want to have to call the fuel truck back as it’s Friday and we all want to go home.”
During my hitch in the Air Force, I was a Pneudraulics System Specialist. My first permanent assignment was at Laughlin AFB maintaining T37s and T38s. The engines on the T37s were very shrill which gave the aircraft its nickname "Tweet". I also remember manufacturing teflon hose replacements for the rubber hoses on the hydraulic system. Spent many hours at the PM dock replacing hydraulic hoses. On the belly between the engines is a compartment called the "hell hole" which I had to enter a few times looking for hydraulic leaks.
Entered pilot training in T-37s at Moody in 1963, shortly after the end of introductory training in prop aircraft like the T-34. Moved on to the T-33 before graduating. Proud to be part of a small group of Air Force pilots never to have flown an aircraft with either fixed gear or a prop prior to winning our wings. On graduation, we were also able to take the FAA commercial written exam and certify as single and multi-engine instrument pilots, unlike our compatriots at T-38 bases, who still had to check out in single engine aircraft.
While stationed at Tyndall AFB in the early 80's, I'd occasionally see these on the flightline. I always loved the look of these things. You can stand next to them and look DOWN into the cockpit. It's like looking at a Lamborghini sports car.
I was an air traffic controller at Hill AFB, UT in 1985. Got an incentive ride as a flight of two. Couldn't quit smiling for days. As we taxied in with the canopy up, I found out why they called it the tweet. Before the pilot could stop me I unstrapped my facemask and blasted both of our ears as the mask mike picked up every bit of shrill engine noise. He never invited me back....I fly corporate for a living now. Still have 1.1 logged in the tweet!
I see your 1.1 hours and lower you .5. I brought my private pilot log book with me when in AF ROTC training and got .6 logged hours in multi-engine jet!
Flew in the T-37B ACE program for about 2 years before upgrade at Blytheville AFB. Racked up about 340 hours in the ACE program. Great as a XC jet : no APU required, all we needed was a runway of 5000 feet to operate on and any FBO that would accept the Federal fuel card.
when I was in the air force, my first duty assignment in 1969 was Laredo AFB, which was part of the Air Training Command. they had T-37s and T-38s. the student pilots would first fly the T-37 before moving on to the T-38s. I was a crew chief and worked on the T-38s for a year before going to Vietnam and working on F-100s.
LRD class 73-02 here, I even remember where DuPonts Mound in the T-38 pattern was. 1/2 of my graduation wings are on the tennis court (if it's still there.) 😊 Thank God I survived UPT.
Flew in and out of Laredo many a time for American Eagle with SF-340s and EMB jets. A lot of the ATC flight buildings were still there. Always amazed on RWY 17C if a T-38A had to do a high speed abort if you missed the barrier there wasn’t much of an overrun before the perimeter fence and a two-lane street. Could still see the T-37B auxiliary field “Poor Boy” out to the East as well. I did my ATC tour as a non-volunteer up the road at Laughlin in the T-38A/86th FTS.@@Steve-0220
The T-37 auxiliary field was call-sign “Poorboy” if I remember. Most of the flying sand buildings were still there in the 1990’s. (Laughlin 84-88 T-38A’s)@@Steve-0220
1991 at Vance AFB, Enid, OK...T-37s, then -38s, "banked" for 9 months as Clinton was shutting things down post-USSR, and on to the (at the time) brand new C-17s, then late 90s to the MQ-1 and and then MQ-9s.
♪ ♪Mem'ries, light the corners of my mind♪ ♪..... Remind me of the good old days back in 74-75 at WEBB AFB in Big Spring Texas during pilot training course.
i worked on the t-37 for the first 3 1/2 years of my career. it really was a flying tank. very simple to maintain but keeping the tail clean was a pain.
As an ROTC cadet, I got to ride in the Tweet. I wasn't impressed at first, but when we hit the big blue sky, I was in wonderland. The speed and agility of this plane were outstanding, I laughed with every "g" pulled and every loop we did. I wanted to fly forever. When we landed the pilot unhooked me from the oxygen port and I thought "where's my air?". I didn't I lose my lunch like a few of my fellow cadets did. I had the greatest time of my life.
I too got to do an orientation ride at Vance AFB while at Field Training as an ROTC cadet. Like you, I did not lose my lunch, but many friends did. I already had a PPL at the time, and on take off, at about 200 feet AGL, the IP said "your airplane". I'll never forget that experience!
Ugliest? I've always thought the T37 was the cutest,nicest looking plane. My neighbor was in the navy and I'm sure we saw him land in a T37. I wanted to be a pilot since I was 12, but a guy said I had to learn geometry. Now at 65 I still love this plane. Maybe it's the side by side seating. I remember seeing two silver almost chrome T37's on hangers driving by the Chino Airport in California. Great Video and Flying. Keep up the good work and post some more, maybe in cockpit videos.
Let’s see…from memory (UPT Class of 81-05 @ Willy)… THROTTLES - IDLE RUDDER & AILERONS - NEUTRAL STICK - ABRUPTLY FULL AFT & HOLD RUDDER - ABRUPTLY APPLY FULL RUDDER OPPOSITE SPIN DIRECTION (Opposite Turn Needle) & HOLD STICK - ABRUPTLY FULL FORWARD ONE TURN AFTER APPLYING RUDDER CONTROLS - NEUTRAL AFTER SPINNING STOPS & RECOVER FROM DIVE
The controller at Edward's was not impressed with our climb rate as we departed. He asked us, What kind of a fighter are you? With a lot of disgust in his voice. The Tweet did a good job for what it was intended. Noisy, hot, uncomfortable, but fun to fly aerobatics. Easy to fly, difficult to fly well. I have done idle power loops. A student demoed a 6 g aileron roll. Progressive spins where a spin starts one direction and in the messed up recover goes right into a spin in the opposite direction with no recovery in between. Spin recovery with ones' back stuck on the canopy as the stick is very aggressively shoved full forward. Looking around to find the stick from such an unusual position. Great times!
Waz at EAFB 58-62 ,they had T- 33s , T-37 waz nice pilots Wer lined up, lots waz goin on back then. Powers got shot down U-2s came from north base to main. Yup memory’s, 66yrs yesterday joined AF🫡
Gotta throw in my kudos! Flew the tweet for almost 4 years and Randolph. The 7000 pound dog whistle. Loved this airplane even more than the T-38. Got a ride one time in a F-16 one time, glad I never had to do that for a living, 9 g's and I nearly passed my liver out my main discharge hole ;-) Ah, back in the glory days... Cheers to all the Tweet guys!!!
Doug Davis Doug, I once volunteered to be a crash test dummy for the fire department at Willy. I was to be strapped into a T-38 and act as if I was unconscious and incapacitated. The fire department then would come and "rescue" me. The firefighter that yanked me out of that cockpit was the strongest human I have ever witnessed. He grabbed my parachute harness and I was over the side in just a second to his buddies. I couldn't believe how strong those guys were. Gave me a permanent deep respect for them.
Alex Roberts Well, he must have done a great job, because the tweet was an awesomely maintained aircraft that rarely gave us any issues. Wish him my best...
Ha!!! 7000# dog whistle! Hadn't heard that repeated since the '70s, Mark. When at ATC school (Keesler), my unit had to march close by the spot on the flightline where the transient Tweets were being turned around. Each time we marched by there (just after 1200) and engines were running or being started our formation of well over 100 airmen went completely out-of-step until we were far enough away to get back into step. Without some kind of hearing protection, that sound was absolutely brain-piercing.
I've always loved this plane.. I think looks awesome.Now at 67 I'm not sure if it's even posible to go from being a non pilot to being able to own and fly this.My neighbor when I was young was a fighter pilot and inspiration to me by his charector.
I wound up with close to 1,000 flights in the Tweet, around 850 instructor hours. The airframe was virtually indestructible and, trust me on this, there were some who tried. In the late 60's the wing spar was replaced/ beefed up to A-37 specs. The engines were tough but thirsty and a friend of mine put in a suggestion that they be replaced with the motors used on the Cessna Citation I. Too expensive, said HHQ. "Why, the price of fuel would have to double to make this pay off!" Yeah... about that...
The T37 had no official name that I know of, generally called the Tweet or 6000# Dog Whistle. The engines we had (don't know that they were ever changed) were centrifugal flow and thirsty. On 2000# of fuel, it took 350# from engines start to gear up and 200 kts. If we could get 1.9 hrs in the air on a cross country, everything had to be just right. At L/D max (around 120kts) the glide ratio was approx 10:1 with that Hershey bar wing. Most student flying was daytime so to get our req'd night time, we'd climb to the top of our practice area (FL250, by regulation for an unpressurized a/c) and slow 'way down to hover, then land min fuel. Enjoyed the plane, burned out on instruction after 3 yrs.
I dont think that the "Tweety Bird" is ugly.!!! I think it is a well proportionate design, even a very nice plane.!!! And durable one.!!! We used to call it "the transformer", because it tranforms the fuel in srieking noise.!!! A very rugged a/c.
I was MOS squadron at CAFB 1977 to 81. Crew chief on the tweet. Also did two TDY's to BAFB for the ACE program. Good times. Got into flying and used the G.I. Bill to get all my ratings.
I don't see anything ugly about this aircraft. To me it looks perfectly suited for what it does, it would be the best daily flyer if I was wealthy and had my own
2:25 It would be safer if there was a metal divider to prevent luggage from sitting on top of those electronic devices. Why is it missing this shelf/divider piece?
I want one of these...don't care if people think they are ugly. I bet they are easy to work on, cheap to fix (for a jet), somewhat efficient in fuel consumption, low stall speed.......frankly, these things are cool as heck!
+Joseph P I do too! I flew them in UPT and think it would be AWESOME to own one! VERY easy to fly and extremely durable! Essentially, a jet powered Cessna 172 lol.
" Desert Hunters " , Class 7606 , Webb AFB. Air Force of Chile Second Lieutenants got All the Trophies with almost 100% score. I took Academics with 99.3% ...came third in flight score. We had only 40 hrs. T 34 Mentor before the Tweet , but were very young ( 18- 20 ) and Very Competitive ! I was lucky to fly A 37 Dragonfly at 20 ! 😉😊😁😎
Loud little gadflies! I was working in an F-16 cockpit and looked up just in time to see a tweet come grinding down the runway with his wheels up. the student inadvertently landed wheels up and his IP let him do it.
Columbus AFB, 1976. Remember my first flight I had strapped my parachute harness on tight between my legs and waddled out to the jet. No one told me that you did that once you were seated in the jet. Got a few chuckles....
Back when I was in the Navy our pilots usually flew one of the squadron planes when they went on leave. We flew A-7 Es back then. They used a couple of blivits for luggage. I think they were called blivits. They looked like drop tanks but lacked any kind of plumbing, They were just hallow containers that could be jettisoned if need be.
Soloed 1999 at Laughlin. Friday evening and only jet in the pattern; had a blast. RSU made me land with 650 lbs remaining because they were ready to close shop and tired of watching me pull closed.
Ugly? Nope. Tweet was a good looking bird. I crewed them for 2 years at Laughlin and a year at Columbus (in the phase hangar). 57-2285 was my bird. Loved working on that plane.
This video was posted in 2014 most likely no one will read this post in 2020. That is a beautiful plane. Not the best airplane never the less a great training and acrobatic plane. These planes can do acrobatics that no other jets can. I worked on T-37C for 3 years in the 1980's at the Portuguese Airforce for the " Asas de Portugal" Wings of Portugal! honestly was the best time of my life. easy to work on vs other planes such as Aviocar or Alloett (helicopter) or T38's. The seats side by side are awesome for a pilot in training. Just luv that Plane. I am still looking for the model T-37. I thought it was made by "Revell".
The whole powerplant system just screams inefficiency, but this was on the outer edge of Cessna's capabilities and the lower edge of companies like Lockheed, Boeing, Northrop, Grumman, etc.
Excelente video desde chile gran avión ese t33 de instruccion acá estuvo en servicio casi 2008 de hay debaja a mi también me gusta los aviones y el aermodelisno 🇨🇱🤘🤘🤘
This happened while I was at Columbus. For some reason the nose gear wouldn't extend by and means. The IP elected to land at half flaps, main and speedbrake. The might have foamed the r/w--I forget. Anyway, it was sheet metal damage to the speedbrake panel, back in the air in a week or less
@@cliffordkinnear9705 I was at DLF as well. About 1979 one of my students (I was a class commander) on a solo flight went NORDO (no radio) out in the area. He did everything right - squawked 7600, rocked his wings on initial, but forgot to put the gear down. The mobile controller tried to send him around on the regular frequency and on guard, but it didn't work because of the radio failure, so the controller fired the flares. The student saw them but thought "Those can't be for me, I'm NORDO! and landed.
The command pilot and student pilot were doing numerous touch and go's. When it came time to land the IP didn't verify the landing gear was down! Ahhhh. Our plane came back to Laughlin on a flat bed trailer. Our civilian maintainers fixed the damage and the plane was flyable in under two weeks. @@unknownrider3071
"Ugly Airplane Award"??? I have a model of this plane I built about 15 years ago (I'm 58 now) that i bought because I thought it was one of the prettiest little jets ever!
T-37 has RUINED more hearing of crew chief than any other aircraft in modern history. It caused my Tennitus within a week of assignment at very 1st base, very 1st emergency recovery which caught us unexpected with no hearing protection. Yes, I'm aware it was our responsibility to have hearing protection at all times. When you're caught unexpected in an emergency, you're basically screwed.
Ugly, there is nothing even slightly ugly about the Beautiful and Awesome Tweet, or the super powerful Dragonfly, nothing!! Cessna designers knocked it out of the park with this aircraft!!
Ugly airplane my butt! This airplane may not have been the most modern or even the prettiest airframe on the block but it performed a vital role in our country's defense in helping to train the next generation of pilots. Though most of the airframes flying were probably older than the aviators flying them it is a very simple and beautiful aircraft to fly into a clear blue sky!
The T-37s would go right over the selmont drive-in in the late 1950's and my father would cuss at them because they would drown out the audio of the movie. I was 8 or 9 years old at the time. I liked the sound as a kid.
The T-37 was known as "The Converter". It converts JP-4 into noise.
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When I was in pilot training in 1980 we called it the tweety bird because of its loud sweaty engines.
I few the Tweet as a Cadet in the last class of Aviation Cadets. The one maneuver that sticks in my mind is the aggressive recovery technique used in spin recovery. In an "accelerated" spin, your helmet would be pinned to the side of the canopy. Impressive! It was almost too easy to land given its wide stance and low profile. A big disadvantage was that the instructor was sitting right next to you. Mine used to grab my O2 hose and shake my head around if I screwed up a maneuver. Fond memories...
Then there was the not often seen "inverted spin"....
T37 one of the most beautiful well proportioned durably built aircraft..period
I have to disagree about its beauty
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Loved the Tweet! Always wanted to crew them in the Air Force but wasn't that fortunate. The engines at idle emitted such a shriek that we called it the 10,000lb dog whistle. Who knew that Cessna could build a jet that reliable and at that performance level.
I'm sorry, but I can't hear you. My ears are ringing too loud. LOL ! Williams AFB 84-90. MSD
@@jad43701 Willie here 83-84 No Loss and Boysan…
The Tweet's piercing engine sound was something to hear up close as an SP on the flightline, you had to move away if you had no hearing protection. The igloos in the WSA in the background as he taxis in also brings back memories, but of SAC.
I didn't enjoy my time as a student in the Tweet during the Fall, 1972. I just couldn't get the hang of it. Didn't bust any rides, but didn't impress anyone with my golden hands either. My first ride in a T-38 was like walking out of the darkness onto a sunlit plain, lol. I did great in the T-38 and ended up as a T-38 IP at graduation. Went on to fly Buffs and Bones until retirement.
"Went on to fly Buffs and Bones until retirement." - excellent opportunities in their own right!
I flew over 1,000 hours as an instructor in the Tweet. Last flight, June 1985
Nice, I've always loved this plane. My neighbor landed one when he wad training in the Navy It sure looked like one. You were an instructor? Must have been an awesome job.
@@Robynloveshred The Navy used the T-2 Buckeye.
About 1300 hrs total in the Tweet. Last flight March 99. Underpowered sports car. Once you learned how to manage the energy it was a blast to fly.
The Tweet was the most photogenic airplane according to (I think) Air Combat magazine back in the 1970's. I have 85 hrs on the Tweet from pilot training.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,not ugly at all.
AKA "The 5000 pound machine designed to turn JP-4 into NOISE & SMOKE. Now that I've completed UPT/Flying Career I'd LOVE to Own & fly one again! Great airplane they had to put strakes on it to teach Spin Recoveries. Throttles Idle, Rudder & Ailerons Neutral, Stick Abruptly Full Aft & Hold...after 50+ years flying & I still remember the Memory Action Items.😊🫡
The infamous "43 words of wisdom!"
On one ACE local flight the KC-135 copilot I was flying a T-37B with, we logged 2.6 hours on one tank of gas. Feb 25, 1983 in 68-8028. We left the a/c knob pulled out(no bleed air from the engines for cockpit heating), climb-out/cruise and just flew the confines of our local MOA, (FAGUS MOA) at L/D airspeed which I think was 140KIAS at FL250. After 2 hours of that we flew back to KBYH at FL250/140KIAS. intending to hold overhead the base. We wanted to see if we could log a 3:00 hour sortie. Captain Steve Prowell, the ACE detachment commander had us land : “We don’t want to have to call the fuel truck back as it’s Friday and we all want to go home.”
During my hitch in the Air Force, I was a Pneudraulics System Specialist. My first permanent assignment was at Laughlin AFB maintaining T37s and T38s. The engines on the T37s were very shrill which gave the aircraft its nickname "Tweet". I also remember manufacturing teflon hose replacements for the rubber hoses on the hydraulic system. Spent many hours at the PM dock replacing hydraulic hoses. On the belly between the engines is a compartment called the "hell hole" which I had to enter a few times looking for hydraulic leaks.
I worked on the J-69 engine of the T-37 during the 1960s. Brought back memories.
Entered pilot training in T-37s at Moody in 1963, shortly after the end of introductory training in prop aircraft like the T-34. Moved on to the T-33 before graduating. Proud to be part of a small group of Air Force pilots never to have flown an aircraft with either fixed gear or a prop prior to winning our wings. On graduation, we were also able to take the FAA commercial written exam and certify as single and multi-engine instrument pilots, unlike our compatriots at T-38 bases, who still had to check out in single engine aircraft.
I worked the line at an FBO for over two decades and we had these visit us many times......I think thats where my hearing went
Huh? What?
While stationed at Tyndall AFB in the early 80's, I'd occasionally see these on the flightline. I always loved the look of these things. You can stand next to them and look DOWN into the cockpit. It's like looking at a Lamborghini sports car.
They aren't ugly. I think they are cuter than a barrel of speckle pups
Heh, imagine if the A-10 and the Super Tweet had "kids"...
What a trip down memory lane ... Laughlin AFB, TX 1998-1999.
Me to. FAIP 77-80, came back to the T-37 from 87-90.
I was an air traffic controller at Hill AFB, UT in 1985. Got an incentive ride as a flight of two. Couldn't quit smiling for days. As we taxied in with the canopy up, I found out why they called it the tweet. Before the pilot could stop me I unstrapped my facemask and blasted both of our ears as the mask mike picked up every bit of shrill engine noise. He never invited me back....I fly corporate for a living now. Still have 1.1 logged in the tweet!
I see your 1.1 hours and lower you .5. I brought my private pilot log book with me when in AF ROTC training and got .6 logged hours in multi-engine jet!
Flew in the T-37B ACE program for about 2 years before upgrade at Blytheville AFB. Racked up about 340 hours in the ACE program. Great as a XC jet : no APU required, all we needed was a runway of 5000 feet to operate on and any FBO that would accept the Federal fuel card.
when I was in the air force, my first duty assignment in 1969 was Laredo AFB, which was part of the Air Training Command. they had T-37s and T-38s. the student pilots would first fly the T-37 before moving on to the T-38s. I was a crew chief and worked on the T-38s for a year before going to Vietnam and working on F-100s.
LRD class 73-02 here, I even remember where DuPonts Mound in the T-38 pattern was. 1/2 of my graduation wings are on the tennis court (if it's still there.) 😊 Thank God I survived UPT.
Flew in and out of Laredo many a time for American Eagle with SF-340s and EMB jets. A lot of the ATC flight buildings were still there. Always amazed on RWY 17C if a T-38A had to do a high speed abort if you missed the barrier there wasn’t much of an overrun before the perimeter fence and a two-lane street. Could still see the T-37B auxiliary field “Poor Boy” out to the East as well. I did my ATC tour as a non-volunteer up the road at Laughlin in the T-38A/86th FTS.@@Steve-0220
The T-37 auxiliary field was call-sign “Poorboy” if I remember. Most of the flying sand buildings were still there in the 1990’s. (Laughlin 84-88 T-38A’s)@@Steve-0220
Soloed out in 1971, Reese AFB TX
1985 Sheppard AFB ENJJPTP. :)
Great fun...
1991 at Vance AFB, Enid, OK...T-37s, then -38s, "banked" for 9 months as Clinton was shutting things down post-USSR, and on to the (at the time) brand new C-17s, then late 90s to the MQ-1 and and then MQ-9s.
93-10 at Reese. No doubt the same tail numbers were still there. 😬
Just came across this video. I flew the T-37 as a student in pilot training. Later I flew it in ACE (Accelerated copilot enhancement). Good times.
Sheppard AFB 1984 - 1985 always remember my flights in the Tweet
Flew in the T37 as an ROTC Cadet in ‘77. Will never forget the sensation of pulling Gs, rolls, and just plain fun. 👍🏾👍🏾
♪ ♪Mem'ries, light the corners of my mind♪ ♪..... Remind me of the good old days back in 74-75 at WEBB AFB in Big Spring Texas during pilot training course.
A Smart Salute from Class 7606 " Desert Hunters " , Webb AFB.
i worked on the t-37 for the first 3 1/2 years of my career. it really was a flying tank. very simple to maintain but keeping the tail clean was a pain.
As an ROTC cadet, I got to ride in the Tweet. I wasn't impressed at first, but when we hit the big blue sky, I was in wonderland. The speed and agility of this plane were outstanding, I laughed with every "g" pulled and every loop we did. I wanted to fly forever. When we landed the pilot unhooked me from the oxygen port and I thought "where's my air?". I didn't I lose my lunch like a few of my fellow cadets did. I had the greatest time of my life.
I too got to do an orientation ride at Vance AFB while at Field Training as an ROTC cadet. Like you, I did not lose my lunch, but many friends did. I already had a PPL at the time, and on take off, at about 200 feet AGL, the IP said "your airplane". I'll never forget that experience!
@@geraldbyrne2146 cool. My brother did his UPT at Vance. Did you ever notice the head of NCIS on the TV show is named Leon Vance? :-)
Ugliest? I've always thought the T37 was the cutest,nicest looking plane. My neighbor was in the navy and I'm sure we saw him land in a T37. I wanted to be a pilot since I was 12, but a guy said I had to learn geometry. Now at 65 I still love this plane. Maybe it's the side by side seating. I remember seeing two silver almost chrome T37's on hangers driving by the Chino Airport in California.
Great Video and Flying. Keep up the good work and post some more, maybe in cockpit videos.
Let’s see…from memory (UPT Class of 81-05 @ Willy)…
THROTTLES - IDLE
RUDDER & AILERONS - NEUTRAL
STICK - ABRUPTLY FULL AFT & HOLD
RUDDER - ABRUPTLY APPLY FULL RUDDER OPPOSITE SPIN DIRECTION (Opposite Turn Needle) & HOLD
STICK - ABRUPTLY FULL FORWARD ONE TURN AFTER APPLYING RUDDER
CONTROLS - NEUTRAL AFTER SPINNING STOPS & RECOVER FROM DIVE
3-star General Johnny Weida would be so proud!
Captain Kris Rogers-Prxxxxt /IP would be proud.
43 Words of wisdom!
Perfect!!! Signed - Tweet USEM, CAFB, Spring 96-Spring 99
Nice! You’re cleared to solo.
Responsible for 99 % of all air force hearing loss
The controller at Edward's was not impressed with our climb rate as we departed. He asked us, What kind of a fighter are you? With a lot of disgust in his voice. The Tweet did a good job for what it was intended. Noisy, hot, uncomfortable, but fun to fly aerobatics. Easy to fly, difficult to fly well. I have done idle power loops. A student demoed a 6 g aileron roll. Progressive spins where a spin starts one direction and in the messed up recover goes right into a spin in the opposite direction with no recovery in between. Spin recovery with ones' back stuck on the canopy as the stick is very aggressively shoved full forward. Looking around to find the stick from such an unusual position. Great times!
Waz at EAFB 58-62 ,they had T- 33s , T-37 waz nice pilots Wer lined up, lots waz goin on back then. Powers got shot down U-2s came from north base to main. Yup memory’s, 66yrs yesterday joined AF🫡
Gotta throw in my kudos! Flew the tweet for almost 4 years and Randolph. The 7000 pound dog whistle. Loved this airplane even more than the T-38. Got a ride one time in a F-16 one time, glad I never had to do that for a living, 9 g's and I nearly passed my liver out my main discharge hole ;-) Ah, back in the glory days... Cheers to all the Tweet guys!!!
+Mark g I was stationed at Randolph in 73-74. I was a 57130 Fire dept. Hated landing direction change in the middle of the night.
Mark g my dad was stationed at RAFB till 74 when he retired. This. Was the plane he worked on for years
Doug Davis Doug, I once volunteered to be a crash test dummy for the fire department at Willy. I was to be strapped into a T-38 and act as if I was unconscious and incapacitated. The fire department then would come and "rescue" me. The firefighter that yanked me out of that cockpit was the strongest human I have ever witnessed. He grabbed my parachute harness and I was over the side in just a second to his buddies. I couldn't believe how strong those guys were. Gave me a permanent deep respect for them.
Alex Roberts Well, he must have done a great job, because the tweet was an awesomely maintained aircraft that rarely gave us any issues. Wish him my best...
Ha!!! 7000# dog whistle! Hadn't heard that repeated since the '70s, Mark. When at ATC school (Keesler), my unit had to march close by the spot on the flightline where the transient Tweets were being turned around. Each time we marched by there (just after 1200) and engines were running or being started our formation of well over 100 airmen went completely out-of-step until we were far enough away to get back into step. Without some kind of hearing protection, that sound was absolutely brain-piercing.
Great little airplane. I’d love to take her up again.
That’s one of my all time favorite aircraft.
I've always loved this plane.. I think looks awesome.Now at 67 I'm not sure if it's even posible to go from being a non pilot to being able to own and fly this.My neighbor when I was young was a fighter pilot and inspiration to me by his charector.
I wound up with close to 1,000 flights in the Tweet, around 850 instructor hours. The airframe was virtually indestructible and, trust me on this, there were some who tried. In the late 60's the wing spar was replaced/ beefed up to A-37 specs. The engines were tough but thirsty and a friend of mine put in a suggestion that they be replaced with the motors used on the Cessna Citation I. Too expensive, said HHQ. "Why, the price of fuel would have to double to make this pay off!" Yeah... about that...
+Pete Discenza So glad I was one of the last UPT classes to fly the mighty Tweet!
+Pete Discenza I worked for an FBO and we had one that had the older less miserly power plants but was wondering did it go by any other name ....?
The T37 had no official name that I know of, generally called the Tweet or 6000# Dog Whistle. The engines we had (don't know that they were ever changed) were centrifugal flow and thirsty. On 2000# of fuel, it took 350# from engines start to gear up and 200 kts. If we could get 1.9 hrs in the air on a cross country, everything had to be just right. At L/D max (around 120kts) the glide ratio was approx 10:1 with that Hershey bar wing. Most student flying was daytime so to get our req'd night time, we'd climb to the top of our practice area (FL250, by regulation for an unpressurized a/c) and slow 'way down to hover, then land min fuel. Enjoyed the plane, burned out on instruction after 3 yrs.
I was one number junior to Pete at an airline.
@@jcheck6 Hey, you! We're still in Minny--give us a call sometime or PM. Flying gliders now to save the planet.
You want a complex instrument display climb int the front cockpit of an F4 Phantom!
I dont think that the "Tweety Bird" is ugly.!!!
I think it is a well proportionate design, even a very nice plane.!!!
And durable one.!!!
We used to call it "the transformer", because it tranforms the fuel in srieking noise.!!!
A very rugged a/c.
I was MOS squadron at CAFB 1977 to 81. Crew chief on the tweet. Also did two TDY's to BAFB for the ACE program. Good times. Got into flying and used the G.I. Bill to get all my ratings.
I don't see anything ugly about this aircraft. To me it looks perfectly suited for what it does, it would be the best daily flyer if I was wealthy and had my own
Waz at EAFB n 58 wen this AC arrived. Waz a flight mechanic on C-47,54, n 119 . Reciprocating aircraft.
Thank You! Had not heard that before and wondered. Best Regards!
2:25 It would be safer if there was a metal divider to prevent luggage from sitting on top of those electronic devices. Why is it missing this shelf/divider piece?
Thank You For Video Share.
Ahh the memories!
I want one of these...don't care if people think they are ugly. I bet they are easy to work on, cheap to fix (for a jet), somewhat efficient in fuel consumption, low stall speed.......frankly, these things are cool as heck!
+Joseph P I do too! I flew them in UPT and think it would be AWESOME to own one! VERY easy to fly and extremely durable! Essentially, a jet powered Cessna 172 lol.
Michael Godsey
Yes, but a thirsty one.!!!
nobody:
Cessna T-37: *I have no mouth, but I must scream*
Damn........... Memories........ 8501 Reese AFB, Tx.
Now that's a plane! Must be like a sportscar in the sky
The most efficent method of converting JP4 into noise .
" Desert Hunters " , Class 7606 , Webb AFB.
Air Force of Chile Second Lieutenants got All the Trophies with almost 100% score.
I took Academics with 99.3% ...came third in flight score.
We had only 40 hrs. T 34 Mentor before the Tweet , but were very young ( 18- 20 ) and Very Competitive !
I was lucky to fly A 37 Dragonfly at 20 !
😉😊😁😎
What a great video. From trainer to lobster transporter. Sitting side by side this is a great way to fly it as a couple😎
Well, there were a few down-sides to side-by-side. Especially with primary students prone to airsickness. Don't even ask...
my dad worked on them at laredo af base in the 60s sweet lil plane
Loud little gadflies! I was working in an F-16 cockpit and looked up just in time to see a tweet come grinding down the runway with his wheels up. the student inadvertently landed wheels up and his IP let him do it.
Columbus AFB, 1976. Remember my first flight I had strapped my parachute harness on tight between my legs and waddled out to the jet. No one told me that you did that once you were seated in the jet. Got a few chuckles....
@jeffsmithist cool! My brother was aT-37 IP at CAFB when he came back from Viet Nam. Did you notice the T-37s with the CB tail flash in the video?
1977 Misisipi Columbus Air Force Base ...
any one know's John P. Kopec ,he was my instructor .
My grandpa might buy this exact t-37
Back when I was in the Navy our pilots usually flew one of the squadron planes when they went on leave. We flew A-7 Es back then. They used a couple of blivits for luggage. I think they were called blivits. They looked like drop tanks but lacked any kind of plumbing, They were just hallow containers that could be jettisoned if need be.
Like the A-10, everyone says its ugly, but I think it's a good looking aircraft.
Yea Airforce!!!
Soloed the Tweet in 1971 out of Williams AFB.
Soloed 1999 at Laughlin. Friday evening and only jet in the pattern; had a blast. RSU made me land with 650 lbs remaining because they were ready to close shop and tired of watching me pull closed.
One year ahead of me Sam at Willie.
Ugly? Nope. Tweet was a good looking bird. I crewed them for 2 years at Laughlin and a year at Columbus (in the phase hangar). 57-2285 was my bird. Loved working on that plane.
I would guess Scotty is around 56 now and flying for some airline.
I saw quite a few of these in Vietnam. I'm not sure who was flying them, ARVN's or US pilots.
There is some "Tweet" in most Cessna Citations flying today!!
Anybody fly 64-3420 ? That was my airplane while stationed at Laughlin AFB -- 1987-1989.
Nice little plane, but i like the Canadair CT-114 Tutor better. The high horizontal stab on the Tutor looks better
That does look good.
@@Sherman62 th-cam.com/video/QghNRfXbef4/w-d-xo.html
I want one.
I WANT one of these SO bad..... will never be able to afford one..... but I WANT one. lol
Blue Angels napping as their baby-siblings play
This video was posted in 2014 most likely no one will read this post in 2020.
That is a beautiful plane. Not the best airplane never the less a great training and acrobatic plane. These planes can do acrobatics that no other jets can.
I worked on T-37C for 3 years in the 1980's at the Portuguese Airforce for the " Asas de Portugal" Wings of Portugal! honestly was the best time of my life. easy to work on vs other planes such as Aviocar or Alloett (helicopter) or T38's.
The seats side by side are awesome for a pilot in training.
Just luv that Plane.
I am still looking for the model T-37. I thought it was made by "Revell".
96-02 Laughlin! "All stick, no trim"
The whole powerplant system just screams inefficiency, but this was on the outer edge of Cessna's capabilities and the lower edge of companies like Lockheed, Boeing, Northrop, Grumman, etc.
The T-37 is not an ugly plane. She has fine lines. She also looks a lot like the CT-114 Tutor.
USAF had an exchange program with CF training squadrons. Similar planes but USAF insisted on two engines 'way back when.
"What's the only edible piece on the T-37 ?" An actual question on a classmate's contact check. Know the answer...win a cookie.
The student?
The small pea contained within the glass tube in the bottom of the turn-and-bank indicator. My classmate still passed his oral…@@unknownrider3071
The bean in the turn and slip coordinator.
Me: Reese, 93-10. Now….pay up!
YOU NAILED IT !!!! QUAL-1 EXCELLENT !! @@Twister051
Excelente video desde chile gran avión ese t33 de instruccion acá estuvo en servicio casi 2008 de hay debaja a mi también me gusta los aviones y el aermodelisno 🇨🇱🤘🤘🤘
It's look like Cessna Dragonfly. Is not?
Sergey Markisev The Dragonfly (A-37 was the official designation) was the attack version of the T-37.
That is not an ugly aircraft! Looks to me like a sweet Tweet 😂👍
Im 69 and rented cessns 150's and 152's since '75. I think the T-37 seems to me like the cessna 152 of jets 😎
"If the landing gear wasn't to come down you could land perfectly safe on its belly...i think😂"
We had one of our Laughlin AFB based planes do just that a belly landing! We called the Pilot Scratch after that! lol
With the speed brake down.
This happened while I was at Columbus. For some reason the nose gear wouldn't extend by and means. The IP elected to land at half flaps, main and speedbrake. The might have foamed the r/w--I forget. Anyway, it was sheet metal damage to the speedbrake panel, back in the air in a week or less
@@cliffordkinnear9705 I was at DLF as well. About 1979 one of my students (I was a class commander) on a solo flight went NORDO (no radio) out in the area. He did everything right - squawked 7600, rocked his wings on initial, but forgot to put the gear down. The mobile controller tried to send him around on the regular frequency and on guard, but it didn't work because of the radio failure, so the controller fired the flares. The student saw them but thought "Those can't be for me, I'm NORDO! and landed.
The command pilot and student pilot were doing numerous touch and go's. When it came time to land the IP didn't verify the landing gear was down! Ahhhh. Our plane came back to Laughlin on a flat bed trailer. Our civilian maintainers fixed the damage and the plane was flyable in under two weeks. @@unknownrider3071
It's a converter. It converts JP4 into noise.
"Ugly Airplane Award"??? I have a model of this plane I built about 15 years ago (I'm 58 now) that i bought because I thought it was one of the prettiest little jets ever!
The flying Dog Whistle!
T-37 has RUINED more hearing of crew chief than any other aircraft in modern history.
It caused my Tennitus within a week of assignment at very 1st base, very 1st emergency recovery which caught us unexpected with no hearing protection.
Yes, I'm aware it was our responsibility to have hearing protection at all times.
When you're caught unexpected in an emergency, you're basically screwed.
Ugly, there is nothing even slightly ugly about the Beautiful and Awesome Tweet, or the super powerful Dragonfly, nothing!! Cessna designers knocked it out of the park with this aircraft!!
Loudest plane EVA! Geezus.
Deafening, and then it's on to the T 38, the white rocket
I hated that noisy thing when hung over lol
It's a little odd looking, but I wouldn't call it ugly.
Memories! (Including the inadvertent inverted spin. Ooops. Sorry about that.) LOL
Ugly airplane my butt! This airplane may not have been the most modern or even the prettiest airframe on the block but it performed a vital role in our country's defense in helping to train the next generation of pilots. Though most of the airframes flying were probably older than the aviators flying them it is a very simple and beautiful aircraft to fly into a clear blue sky!
the first plane I worked on as a jet engine tec the J69 great little plane
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The T-37s would go right over the selmont drive-in in the late 1950's and my father would cuss at them because they would drown out the audio of the movie. I was 8 or 9 years old at the time. I liked the sound as a kid.
Seattle.
Ugliest Airplane Award? The Tweet is a good looking aircraft compared to many new aircraft!
the sound of the reactor is AWFUL
t-37 ugly? not a chance. somewhere between cute and beautiful. now, the a-10 - THERE'S a plane that's ugly, and PROUD OF IT!
"who cares how it looks as long at it works "Trust me I worked with many "ugly " things that worked better then its much better looking counter parts
I never considered these ugly.
Loud ass jet
The T-37 isn't ugly. Who in his right mind would say such a thing? It is small though.