Excellent. Lots of people cover out of phase... but no one else has talked about how that the pickups are always somewhat out of phase due to pickup position and shown the signal patterns. Very helpful. Also great demos of out-of-phase being used on classic tunes.
By far the best TH-cam demo of out-of-phase pickups. Great playing, and FANTASTIC tone. But your list of guitarists is missing a big name-Brian May! All three pickups on Red Special have polarity switches, and he uses the out-of-phase tone on most of Queen's most famous solos.
Yep! Been playing for 30+ years, and have never seen or heard such a clear explanation of it. Thank you for solving a lifetime mystery to me!! (And thank you for that tasty blues playing. Dayam.)
Great, great video! The way you framed the shot was perfect for a one-camera presentation. You did so many of the things that I/we wish all guitar videos had: in-tune guitar, good playing, good miking, enthusiasm, etc. Keep churning out videos like this! (oh, and BTW, most people who post info on 'out-of-phase' sounds are using humbuckers, to demonstrate Peter Green tones - so I appreciate your use of the single-coil Tele!)
@@BuddaGuedes Haven't yet. But that's what's got me all over TH-cam - trying to get a sense of what sounds are possible, so I'll know what wiring scheme to follow. There are a lot of subtle differences between various wiring schemes, and I want to know what results from each. I recently sold an Ibanez with humbuckers, that I did all kinds of custom switching and filtering. Just acquired a Harley Benton telecaster, and looking to exploit some of this out-of phase mojo I'm hearing. Your video has actually been the most useful, most convincing example of a sound I'm going to aim for.
Finally, a scientific explanation and a decent demo that's not just someone showing off, thank you! Now to decide if I actually want the guitar I can't play to have this feature.
@@BuddaGuedes Oh, I have an increasing collection of cheap guitars, in the quest to find the one that clicks with me. Or has been imbued with some possessive guitar god ghost that makes even my fingers cause notes of joy to ring loud... Currently messing with a cheap Stagg SG thing, and a Westone Spectrum DX in need of total overhaul - Both dual humbucker, so your vid was genuinely helpful :-)
That's all I ever thought the Telecaster was missing and you finally explained it so clearly! Was about to do the series-parallel humbucking mod but this seems more useful
I build most of my telecasters with an out of phase middle position and its an awesome sound. You can add some volume boost to it with a compression pedal with just a bit of compression added as well and it takes it over the top.
You actually explained the principle! Somehow, after 25 years of guitar playing, I just tonight heard about this wiring trick. And I've looked at a few TH-cam videos to gain insight into what this sounds like, but despite a number of the other videos thinking that were explaining the principle behind this sound, they didn't understand (or at least didn't articulate, but it really sounded like they didn't understand) the basic idea of phase cancellation. You can't really tell people how this works without getting into waves and how amplitude sums if in phase and subtracts if out. You, thankfully, offer a *helpful* resource because you get into all that. Those other TH-camrs should have watched your video first before making theirs! Phase is important for anybody working with audio, but if you do anything with modular synthesizers, you'll also encounter a very different side of this concept. It's pretty fascinating so learning about this pickup wiring technique really interested me. Your video was definitely the best demonstration of it I found. I really appreciate your video and I'll check out the rest of your channel! Appreciate the enthusiasm!
Two years ago, a friend of mine guive me a humbucker from the 80´s, and he tell me it was broken because don´t have treble basse tone, i put in my guitar, and the sound is expectacular, that was the sound i was searshing for a long time, but i want more of that sound i was hearing, then i was working with that humbucker, trying to get out even more of that sound, and by mistake, i put it out of fase, and i love it.
I did this mod to my les paul along with a blender knob, so I can gradually add the out of phase sound. It works like a chime! Sometimes les pauls can be a bit tricky to stand out in a mix, so this mod helps a lot!
Dope Fam, I knew about the trick but now I can explain why I'm doing it to a tech better... lot more styles than I was aware of. I was going for Albert King but so cool to know more about it. Thanks!!!
Just my two cents for those who are wanting to apply this trick on stratocasters: The "out of phase sound" is more prominent and useful if the distance beetween pickups is sufficiently away from each other. The best effect is achieved by using the bridge and neck pups connected together, but since the stock strat circuit doesn't allow to do this, you need to install a switch on the pickguard to allow the neck pickup being connected directly with the bridge pickup when, for example, the pickup selector on position 1 or 5. This mod is also called "Gilmour mod" because he used it on his black strat. And secondly you need to install ANOTHER switch for phase inverting the neck (or bridge pickup, it makes no difference). So you will end with two switches installed on your pickguard. You can use those micro toggle switches available at electronic stores, or you can use push-pull pots if you want your pickguard untouched.
Hey, thank you for this comment! Together with the Video you just helped me big time with selecting my pups and mods. Just one more Question: Does this also work (by that I mean sound good) if you pair, say, a conventional single coil pup and a P90? This would help me a ton.
@@vpmobile2185 Yes, as far as I know this trick will work on any pickups you have on your guitar. The only thing that matters is when you have a "lipstick" installed on the pickup (like the Tele's neck pickup) or a grounded cage like the traditional PAF humbuckers have. Those two mentioned need to be "treated" previously in order to isolate the grounded pieces from the bobbin cables. In the case of the strat and/or P90's that is not the case, because these pickups are mounted inside a plastic protector.
@@vpmobile2185 and, secondly, the P90 IS a single coil pickup, indeed, hotter than a standard strat pickup. Just ask Brian May if you want to reassure you how it sounds with a hotter kind of single coil pup 😁.
Thanks man! Really appreciate it. I've dug a little deeper and I didn't find anything that opposes your statement. Actually, I found a very nice definition for a P90 on the way: "The P90 is a single coil pickup. On steroids." Thanks again man hope you're having a good one!
I have a Vintage "Lemon Drop" done like the Peter Green guitar with out of phase... In a les paul type guitar you can take more nuaces from the out phase tone, adjusting the tone and volume knobs of each pickup. Abraço!
I had never heard of phased pickups until I started learning Funk. Your explanation helped me. Thanks. You described the sound as “pointy”......I think that is perfect. And yes, it is supposed to be staccato and bright.
Great playing brother! Really enjoyed the video. I just obtained a Brian May Guitars Red Special. It's the first guitar I've had that allows phase selection on each pickup, and I am really having fun with it! Opens up a whole new range of tonal possibilties! Now I want to do the mod to my Tele too! : )
Your playing style really compliments the tone!! I don't love the sound, but it's definitely got its place. Especially in a big mix, it will slice right through
I’m more of a burner type player, but I really enjoyed your playing. As for your vid, I believe somehow that due to English not being your 1st language, to my surprise, your explanation was by far better than most. Overall, delightful.
I have been in the process of attempting this same mod for my dual humbucker guitar two push pull pots one to switch the neck to series parallel and the bridge humbucker to do a phase reverse. Using cts tone shaper solderless pots. That out of phase and series parallel mod should allow me to get by with one guitar thank you so much for sharing this in english and explaining the wave canceling effect that gives us this sonic option to our library.👍👍
I had this done to my Tele - sounds too thin (yours sounds a bit fatter here) but I use an EQ pedal with bass/mids cranked up and it sounds great - I love your demos - SUPER EXCELLENT!!
Hello @Budda Guedes, How do you do the Out-of-Phase setup, though? I got a PHX TL-1 Telecaster (Made in Brazil). Hope you can show me a link where your friend shows how to do the push/pull setup to toggle the Out-of-Phase tone. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks & cheers!
Oh no, not Portugal. 😛 It's a beautiful country. It has such a different feel to Spain. And I like the idea of being able to smoke weed or hashish in public and it not being illegal.
I just recently learned that Whole Lotta Love’s lead guitar is an out of phase guitar. I always assumed it was EQ at full! This video is great, super illustrative, and really cool! Cheers man! P.S: instant respect for the english comment. I’m from Spain and I think exactly the same way!
Essentially, you simply switch the ground and the hot wires from their normal lug positions or on the pot shell, on either pickup, and then the two PUPs will be 180 degrees out-of-phase when both are running, which tends to cancel the low frequencies. If you have two guitar speakers that are out-of-phase (OOP), (remember, 180 degrees), when one speaker is extending forward, the other is retracting backward, which cancels out or greatly reduces, the bottom end of the amplifier. As you will hear in the Nos. 3 and 4 examples below, jazzman Mickey Baker's Les Paul was wired OOP, as was James Burton's Telecaster in examples 1 and 2. This was factory standard for Teles either out of the late '50s, or the early '60s, I'm not sure exactly when. In fact, the Telecaster wiring during that era was completely different than today's, in that, position No. 1, was lead (bridge); No. 2 was an in-between like No. 2 on a Stratocaster, and both bridge and neck PUPs were running, OOP; No. 3 was straight up in the middle and was just the neck PUP treble; No. 4, was all the way forward, and was automatic neck-on-bassy tone. Check out these OOP sounds by some great players ... "Traveling Man" - Ricky Nelson th-cam.com/video/k0vFdCdNQP4/w-d-xo.html "It's Up To You" - Ricky Nelson th-cam.com/video/vsBP5P0Xe2c/w-d-xo.html "Love Is Strange" - Mickey & Sylvia th-cam.com/video/3DbyAdxp4DQ/w-d-xo.html "Love Is Strange" - Mickey & Sylvia (original studio recording) Great post! I have loved this sound since 1961 or earlier!
Tonetwisters I have a concern. I am making a Rickenbacker 4003 style bass guitar. The thing is that I am left handed. Another thing is that this guitar isn’t routed exactly for a Rickenbacker bridge pickup. I bought a Seymour Duncan Jazz bass bridge pickup and a Bartolini Rickenbacker replacement neck pickup. They are both typically made for right hand guitars. To install them, I am going to install them upside down. Will that affect the phase in any way? I don’t really mind out of phase sound too much. I actually prefer high frequency tones. However, I do intend to make more guitars and I may want to be in phase with a few of those builds.
It's a great sound. As someone already said, Brian May recorded a lot using out of phase tones. In conjunction with the "Deacy amp" he obtained a very distinct tone. I particulary like his guitar orchestrations in songs like Procession or God Save The Queen (it sounds almost like a group of cornets or an organ, in my opinion). I'm planning to do this kind of mod on a 2 pickups guitar, except I will tweak the connections in order to make it out-of-phase always, just like the old guitars. I don't need the normal configuration of the middle position (never use it), so I get that extra "out-of-phase sound". Thanks for the demo of the sounds and the explanations, just what I needed! Parabéns do Uruguai!
Realy great video man. didn't know anything about this out of phase trick. Is it possibile to achieve on a strat, or is it just a thing of 2 pickups guitar?
Hello fellow friend!! I'm from Argentina I arrived here by accident, looking for some info of this AWESOME mod. I recently made to my MIM Tele the so called "Broadcaster" circuit mod and I'm love again with the tones she brings me now jajja. But I want something more to do, because I play mostly blues and classic Rock stuff. It would be nice if you can enlight me some advice of how to do this mod, because the Tele have the ground connection on the bridge plate, and it is necessary to isolate it from the pickup. I read a few years ago that its simpler to do this mod on the neck pickup instead. Also one more question: ¿The push pull pot associated with this mod, is always be located on the "tone pot" or it can be made it on the Volume pot? ¿Is that a tradition that the tone pot needs to be push pull, or is by personal preference? Thanks a lot for your video, your tone is awesome, and your playing is one of the best musical things I ever heard from a long time.
Hey! Thanks a lot. I’m not a tech guy at all so I can’t help you on that. As for the push pull it can be either on the volume pot or on the tone. There are a lot of schematics online for this mod
@@rafaelstefanibarroscoelho1473 reverb.com/item/358207-920d-custom-es335-page-wiring-harness-for-gibson-epiphone-es335-w-four-push-pulls-for-jimmy-page-style-wiring There are many other sellers, but this is the one I bought at the time
love the outta phase sounds bro! i bought a used peavey raptor H/S/S strat clone a couple years ago and noticed in 2 and 4 it was outta phase...thought maybe the mid pup was wired backwards by mistake... pulled it apart to get a closer look and its wired up correctly...the pups are ceramic magnet...the magnet looked a bit crooked on the bottom of the mid pup...so i was able to simply push it to center... pulled it off the pup just to see if i could...it popped off nicely...i put it right back and marked the magnet and the pickup baseplate and re assembled the guitar leaving the bar mag on wrong... loved the tones in 2 and 4 outta phase esp with the humbucker! as icing on the cake i put a gilmour "modswitch" on the scratchplate and hooked it up b4 putting it all together...now theres a really wild tone with all 3 on at the same time lol! its stayin like it is! factory oopsie and lovin it!
@@BuddaGuedes i have another peavey raptor that im changing out the pups in and i want to "re create" the tones of my older one... ill wire the middle pup backwards on purpose lol... it should sound nice with wilkinson vintage voiced single coils on neck n middle...and a guitarmadness "59er" humbucker on the bridge...also the gillmour mod switch...
Best explanation for the out of phase sound there is :) Always been a huge fan of this tone and done it on my tanglewood Chicago (es335 copy) sounds brilliant
One of the biggest misconceptions is of Jimmy Pages Les Paul. His "Out of Phase/Parallel " mods all came about circa 1984 (Post Led Zeppelin) Gibsons 'Jimmy Page ' models are (electrically) "Period Incorrect" for Led Zeppelin. J Pages guitar was 50 standard wiring throughout Led Zeppelin. I go into detail and replicate his live 1973 tone on my channel for any Jimmy Page Les Paul tone chasers
I discovered the out of phase sound by accident on a Les Paul copy. I installed a 1985 Schaller Humbucker pickup in the neck position and a brand new Golden Age overwound humbucker in the bridge. I couldn't figure out what was going on at first until I started researching on the internet to verify this was the deal. Sounds exactly as he describes, Nasal and like a wah-wah in the middle position with both volume pots set at 10. As soon as I back off one of the volume slightly I get the full signal from the other pickup.
My strat bridge pickup is out of phase (so position 2 sounds weird but position 4 sounds fine) I’m debating getting it fixed or keeping it that way, since it is more unique this way.
@@BuddaGuedes You use a Mesa Boogie in this video, right? I have an older Mesa Boogie Express 5:25. It is hard to dial in a good tone but once you've found it, it sounds great.... I connect it to external cabs, now with a vintage EVM12L, and a Tubescreamer for an extra boost if needed.
I removed the phase reverse option on a one modded tele when I got a Nashville. I found the “neck and middle” sound far more useful. My “Fat Nash” has a four way switch. Tele bridge. - bridge and (Strat) middle. - bridge and (Gibson Humbucker) neck. - humbucker only.
Hi Budda, I am here in Canada. I was wanting to know if you could tell me where I could find a wiring diagram of how to do this to my Fender Telecaster. Much appreciated if you could tell me how to do it or do a video showing the steps. Thanks from Michel
You could also buy a 6-way switch (which are available) to give all combinations: 1=bridge only, 2=both in series in phase, 3=both in series out-of-phase, 4=both in parallel in phase, 5=both in parallel out-of-phase, 6-neck only.
@@BuddaGuedes If you are interested, I've found a wiring diagram that allows these 6 sound modes, but using a 3 way switch and 2 push pull potenciometers. I think it's easier to use while playing, but I haven't built it yet, so I don't know if the diagram actually works, but it seems legit.
Jimi was famous for using his wah as almost like a tone knob, cutting the bass for a solo. I’ve listened to countless recordings of him and he seemed to prefer a mid/treble- heavy sound. I think it’s possible but I don’t know for sure.
If you would like to try series wiring with your Telecaster, buy an Oak Grigsby 4 Way Switch and get your friend to wire it for you. Then, you will get 6 sounds out of your Telecaster: Bridge, Bridge & Neck in Parallel in Phase, Bridge & Neck in Parallel out of Phase, Neck, Bridge & Neck in Series in Phase, Bridge & Neck in Series out of Phase.
nice going. Definitely one of the nicest findings for me also. I mean, I guess we all heard about this "out of phase" wiring one time or another, but I didn't care about it then - nothing that made my guitar sound weird and weak- haha, I was young! Great video as always! _cheers ;)
Why nobody mentions the REAL king of the out of phase sound, T-Bone Walker? He basically set the standard for everyone who came after, from Pee Wee Crayton, Lowell Fulson, Goree Carter to all the modern guys I don't even care about. Also check out Junior Barnard. Thank me later.
Thanks for the tips. TBone Walker is not that well known, that’s why. Although he was super important and I love his music. He was one of the main influencers of BB King too
@@BuddaGuedes I truly appreciate your video and your answer, but no, T-Bone Walker is not an unknown name. If you're into guitar you definitely have heard of Chuck Berry, B.B. King (as you correctly mention) but even the Allman Brothers Band... come on...
both sounds , in phase and out of phase sounded great i guess it really depends on what you want to create. Good Stuff ! I had a Fender Mustang that had a factory phase switch never should have sold that guitar , ugh !
Moda Mont of course it depends on what you’re looking to create. It all depends on the player!!! The out of phase was just a tone I was looking for a long time and finally figured it out. So I decided to share it with my audience. Someone might be looking for it too.
Maybe I’m confused but you throw the pickups out of phase on the tele so you can get the “2 and 4 way” strat sound if I’m correct? Right? Or am I opposite? Because your tele sounds way more strat like when you had them “in phase” in this video...
Great demo. If you want some really weird inverted pickup sounds, checkout Big Black "Kerosene." Apparently one of their other tricks was notching flexible copper picks. Strange indeed.
I recently flipped the magnet on the neck pickup in my les paul i absolutely love the sound but the volume drop is kinda annoying, do you know any trick in the wiring to kinda solve it? i have series/parallel wiring done as well
Will this mod if done in my Jackson dinky help give me more of a early sabbath, candlemass and trouble guitar tone with high gain orange or marshall amp?
Budda, what it the deal with the big stone arch in the back ground of your vids ? You must shoot your videos in a really cool building. Very interesting
Wow. That is the coolest thing ever ! I don't mean to pry but, is this a building u live in or just usr as a studio ? The building has got to have some rooms with great natural reverb.
Budda Guedes Brilliant! You're amazing, I wish people would care about making their music natural sounding that you use natural room reverb not digital emulation! You really care and love what you do. Passionate and want the absolute best heart felt and genuine tone possible much like myself and a lot of other musicians who deserve way better recognition for there dedication and hours of practice and work.... It good for the soul, people don't record like that like they use to. You and your tech crew (if there is one) are brilliant and I'm now subscribed! Fantastic video as well! You really care about a community I hope the best for Doctor Guitar! Most blessings and long improving the Blues! Much love! - Sam, guitar player from Texas.
If you EQ the second channel of your amp with more bass and use a channel switcher, it can provide a nice unique tone. But I get that you don't like it. I was into it from the days of James Burton playing with Ricky Nelson.
I got this sound by accident when I upgraded the pickups on a 72 Keef Richards Tele reissue I owned - the two pickups I replaced were made by different manufacturers who used opposite polarity in their standards. So when I switched to middle position = instant nasal tone. Andy Summers used this sound on his modified Tele - I think he used it on the Flanged/Delayed harmonics he did as sound fx on a lot of his early Police stuff. I never got round to fitting a switch so I could change it to normal.
The Biggest "Blunder" is on the Gibson Jimmy Page Custom Shop Models where the 'Middle Pickup Position automatically defaults to a Peter Green 'Out of Phase' sound and (arguably )the most iconic Page Tone (Middle Position IN PHASE ) is not available! He probably uses this sound more than any other.. I don't know of any song where he uses a Les Paul out of phase. Must be somewhere in his solo career i suppose ?
@@BuddaGuedes Yes spot on.. Tele was used on the 1st Album, Stairway Solo .A Strat was first used on Presence ..Where people suffer 'Cloth Ear' is Zep 2 and Zep 3... That's a Les Paul..How some hear a Telecaster there is beyond me..
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Excellent. Lots of people cover out of phase... but no one else has talked about how that the pickups are always somewhat out of phase due to pickup position and shown the signal patterns. Very helpful. Also great demos of out-of-phase being used on classic tunes.
Thanks a lot. I’m glad you liked it
My 50s & 60s baja telecasters both came stock for playing in series and parallel. It was nice to get a lesson on how they work. Thank you
By far the best TH-cam demo of out-of-phase pickups. Great playing, and FANTASTIC tone. But your list of guitarists is missing a big name-Brian May! All three pickups on Red Special have polarity switches, and he uses the out-of-phase tone on most of Queen's most famous solos.
you're right! I will refere to him on the description right away.
Thanks for the support.
Yep! Been playing for 30+ years, and have never seen or heard such a clear explanation of it. Thank you for solving a lifetime mystery to me!!
(And thank you for that tasty blues playing. Dayam.)
Don't forget Brian May!
Out of phase trick actually gives that TWANG type of sound which is really cool!
That’s right
Brian May has his sound built on this as well. The solo from Bohemian Rhapsody is just one example of an out-of-phase tone & screams like crazy :)
Great, great video! The way you framed the shot was perfect for a one-camera presentation. You did so many of the things that I/we wish all guitar videos had: in-tune guitar, good playing, good miking, enthusiasm, etc. Keep churning out videos like this! (oh, and BTW, most people who post info on 'out-of-phase' sounds are using humbuckers, to demonstrate Peter Green tones - so I appreciate your use of the single-coil Tele!)
Thank you so much for your kind words. Do you use out of phase in any guitar?
@@BuddaGuedes Haven't yet. But that's what's got me all over TH-cam - trying to get a sense of what sounds are possible, so I'll know what wiring scheme to follow. There are a lot of subtle differences between various wiring schemes, and I want to know what results from each. I recently sold an Ibanez with humbuckers, that I did all kinds of custom switching and filtering. Just acquired a Harley Benton telecaster, and looking to exploit some of this out-of phase mojo I'm hearing. Your video has actually been the most useful, most convincing example of a sound I'm going to aim for.
Finally, a scientific explanation and a decent demo that's not just someone showing off, thank you!
Now to decide if I actually want the guitar I can't play to have this feature.
Ah ah. What’s the first you can’t play?
Thanks for your support
@@BuddaGuedes Oh, I have an increasing collection of cheap guitars, in the quest to find the one that clicks with me. Or has been imbued with some possessive guitar god ghost that makes even my fingers cause notes of joy to ring loud...
Currently messing with a cheap Stagg SG thing, and a Westone Spectrum DX in need of total overhaul - Both dual humbucker, so your vid was genuinely helpful :-)
Ok. Great to know that. Thanks for sharing
I go with whatever inspires me. And it’s mainly music! Thanks for your tips and have fun with your Sg and the out of phase tone
Thanks for doing your videos in English! Your knowledge and playing skills is great
100 videos later and yours explained all I needed to know! Will be referring back to this video when my switch comes! Thanks!
That’s great to know
This is really useful, and sounds like something you can have done without really damaging the guitar.
That's all I ever thought the Telecaster was missing and you finally explained it so clearly!
Was about to do the series-parallel humbucking mod but this seems more useful
I don’t actually like that mod.
I build most of my telecasters with an out of phase middle position and its an awesome sound. You can add some volume boost to it with a compression pedal with just a bit of compression added as well and it takes it over the top.
I love the pit of phase sound
Thanks for the demo! I'm definitely wiring my next guitar with this sound!
I love it!!!
You actually explained the principle! Somehow, after 25 years of guitar playing, I just tonight heard about this wiring trick. And I've looked at a few TH-cam videos to gain insight into what this sounds like, but despite a number of the other videos thinking that were explaining the principle behind this sound, they didn't understand (or at least didn't articulate, but it really sounded like they didn't understand) the basic idea of phase cancellation. You can't really tell people how this works without getting into waves and how amplitude sums if in phase and subtracts if out. You, thankfully, offer a *helpful* resource because you get into all that. Those other TH-camrs should have watched your video first before making theirs!
Phase is important for anybody working with audio, but if you do anything with modular synthesizers, you'll also encounter a very different side of this concept. It's pretty fascinating so learning about this pickup wiring technique really interested me. Your video was definitely the best demonstration of it I found. I really appreciate your video and I'll check out the rest of your channel! Appreciate the enthusiasm!
Thanks a lot for your comment and kind words
Two years ago, a friend of mine guive me a humbucker from the 80´s, and he tell me it was broken because don´t have treble basse tone, i put in my guitar, and the sound is expectacular, that was the sound i was searshing for a long time, but i want more of that sound i was hearing, then i was working with that humbucker, trying to get out even more of that sound, and by mistake, i put it out of fase, and i love it.
I really enjoy your videos. You always have a great way of explaining things.
Great explanation of phase cancellation!
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I did this mod to my les paul along with a blender knob, so I can gradually add the out of phase sound. It works like a chime! Sometimes les pauls can be a bit tricky to stand out in a mix, so this mod helps a lot!
It’s really cool
Works like a"charm!" Jesus
Don't forget Steve Albini of Big Black/Shellac if you want a very extreme example of just how savage an out of phase gitter can sound.
I’ve never heard it
Dope Fam, I knew about the trick but now I can explain why I'm doing it to a tech better... lot more styles than I was aware of. I was going for Albert King but so cool to know more about it. Thanks!!!
I’m glad it helped. Thanks a lot for your comment
Thank you for making this video. You made this very easy to understand.
Great. Thanks a lot
Just my two cents for those who are wanting to apply this trick on stratocasters:
The "out of phase sound" is more prominent and useful if the distance beetween pickups is sufficiently away from each other. The best effect is achieved by using the bridge and neck pups connected together, but since the stock strat circuit doesn't allow to do this, you need to install a switch on the pickguard to allow the neck pickup being connected directly with the bridge pickup when, for example, the pickup selector on position 1 or 5. This mod is also called "Gilmour mod" because he used it on his black strat. And secondly you need to install ANOTHER switch for phase inverting the neck (or bridge pickup, it makes no difference).
So you will end with two switches installed on your pickguard. You can use those micro toggle switches available at electronic stores, or you can use push-pull pots if you want your pickguard untouched.
That’s what I have on both my Knaggs guitars
Hey, thank you for this comment! Together with the Video you just helped me big time with selecting my pups and mods. Just one more Question: Does this also work (by that I mean sound good) if you pair, say, a conventional single coil pup and a P90? This would help me a ton.
@@vpmobile2185 Yes, as far as I know this trick will work on any pickups you have on your guitar. The only thing that matters is when you have a "lipstick" installed on the pickup (like the Tele's neck pickup) or a grounded cage like the traditional PAF humbuckers have. Those two mentioned need to be "treated" previously in order to isolate the grounded pieces from the bobbin cables. In the case of the strat and/or P90's that is not the case, because these pickups are mounted inside a plastic protector.
@@vpmobile2185 and, secondly, the P90 IS a single coil pickup, indeed, hotter than a standard strat pickup. Just ask Brian May if you want to reassure you how it sounds with a hotter kind of single coil pup 😁.
Thanks man! Really appreciate it. I've dug a little deeper and I didn't find anything that opposes your statement. Actually, I found a very nice definition for a P90 on the way: "The P90 is a single coil pickup. On steroids."
Thanks again man hope you're having a good one!
I have a Vintage "Lemon Drop" done like the Peter Green guitar with out of phase... In a les paul type guitar you can take more nuaces from the out phase tone, adjusting the tone and volume knobs of each pickup. Abraço!
Explanation was good, and doing a demo of the sound was really, really educational!!!
Thanks a lot
this is the best explanation ive found on youtube.
Thanks a lot. I’m really glad you liked it
@@BuddaGuedes just put this switch on my tele. Which amp you like to pair with it?
An amp. In prefere it with a little overdrive for the blues tones or straight clean for the full stuff
I had never heard of phased pickups until I started learning Funk. Your explanation helped me. Thanks. You described the sound as “pointy”......I think that is perfect. And yes, it is supposed to be staccato and bright.
Great it helped. Thanks
The best sounding out of phase demo
thank you for making this video! Can't wait to do this to my guitar, I have always loved this sound and now I know how to get it!
You’re welcome! It has also happened to me!
So pleased to see it was you when I pushed the play button. If you get a chance try a les paul special with P90s, it sounds massive!
I have one and really like it
Great playing brother! Really enjoyed the video. I just obtained a Brian May Guitars Red Special. It's the first guitar I've had that allows phase selection on each pickup, and I am really having fun with it! Opens up a whole new range of tonal possibilties! Now I want to do the mod to my Tele too! : )
Eh! Eh! 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
Your playing style really compliments the tone!! I don't love the sound, but it's definitely got its place. Especially in a big mix, it will slice right through
Yes it will, and in a vintage blues or funk band it’s the tone
I’m more of a burner type player, but I really enjoyed your playing. As for your vid, I believe somehow that due to English not being your 1st language, to my surprise, your explanation was by far better than most. Overall, delightful.
Thanks a lot. It really made me happy
Totally reminds me of Albert Collins. Great demonstration!
I have been in the process of attempting this same mod for my dual humbucker guitar two push pull pots one to switch the neck to series parallel and the bridge humbucker to do a phase reverse. Using cts tone shaper solderless pots. That out of phase and series parallel mod should allow me to get by with one guitar thank you so much for sharing this in english and explaining the wave canceling effect that gives us this sonic option to our library.👍👍
Great it helped. Thanks for letting me know
Hey I thought about doing the same thing. Did you compete it? Do you like the out come?
I had this done to my Tele - sounds too thin (yours sounds a bit fatter here) but I use an EQ pedal with bass/mids cranked up and it sounds great - I love your demos - SUPER EXCELLENT!!
Thanks a lot!!
It works great with overdrive too!
Very good exolanation special with that sound samples.
Very clear explanation of the out of phase sound. It got me thinking about doing that mod... ;)
Hey man. Thanks to this video I added a phase switch on a push/push to my Tele and I’m in Motown heaven!
That’s right. So good!!!!
Fantastic demonstration, I'm very glad to have found your channel
The Fender Baja 50:s Telecaster has the out of phase-mod as standard. A great value Tele!
I absolutely love mine! 😃❤️
👌👌
Hello @Budda Guedes,
How do you do the Out-of-Phase setup, though? I got a PHX TL-1 Telecaster (Made in Brazil). Hope you can show me a link where your friend shows how to do the push/pull setup to toggle the Out-of-Phase tone.
Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks & cheers!
@@BuddaGuedes Thanks very much, I appreciate that. Keep safe. God bless.
@@ardiancereyes Thanks a lot . Stay safe and stay home
Oh no, not Portugal. 😛
It's a beautiful country. It has such a different feel to Spain.
And I like the idea of being able to smoke weed or hashish in public and it not being illegal.
I just recently learned that Whole Lotta Love’s lead guitar is an out of phase guitar. I always assumed it was EQ at full! This video is great, super illustrative, and really cool! Cheers man!
P.S: instant respect for the english comment. I’m from Spain and I think exactly the same way!
Thanks a lot
thats a fucking great sound
Essentially, you simply switch the ground and the hot wires from their normal lug positions or on the pot shell, on either pickup, and then the two PUPs will be 180 degrees out-of-phase when both are running, which tends to cancel the low frequencies.
If you have two guitar speakers that are out-of-phase (OOP), (remember, 180 degrees), when one speaker is extending forward, the other is retracting backward, which cancels out or greatly reduces, the bottom end of the amplifier.
As you will hear in the Nos. 3 and 4 examples below, jazzman Mickey Baker's Les Paul was wired OOP, as was James Burton's Telecaster in examples 1 and 2. This was factory standard for Teles either out of the late '50s, or the early '60s, I'm not sure exactly when. In fact, the Telecaster wiring during that era was completely different than today's, in that, position No. 1, was lead (bridge); No. 2 was an in-between like No. 2 on a Stratocaster, and both bridge and neck PUPs were running, OOP; No. 3 was straight up in the middle and was just the neck PUP treble; No. 4, was all the way forward, and was automatic neck-on-bassy tone. Check out these OOP sounds by some great players ...
"Traveling Man" - Ricky Nelson
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"It's Up To You" - Ricky Nelson
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"Love Is Strange" - Mickey & Sylvia
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"Love Is Strange" - Mickey & Sylvia (original studio recording)
Great post! I have loved this sound since 1961 or earlier!
Tonetwisters I have a concern. I am making a Rickenbacker 4003 style bass guitar. The thing is that I am left handed. Another thing is that this guitar isn’t routed exactly for a Rickenbacker bridge pickup. I bought a Seymour Duncan Jazz bass bridge pickup and a Bartolini Rickenbacker replacement neck pickup. They are both typically made for right hand guitars. To install them, I am going to install them upside down. Will that affect the phase in any way? I don’t really mind out of phase sound too much. I actually prefer high frequency tones. However, I do intend to make more guitars and I may want to be in phase with a few of those builds.
It's a great sound. As someone already said, Brian May recorded a lot using out of phase tones. In conjunction with the "Deacy amp" he obtained a very distinct tone. I particulary like his guitar orchestrations in songs like Procession or God Save The Queen (it sounds almost like a group of cornets or an organ, in my opinion). I'm planning to do this kind of mod on a 2 pickups guitar, except I will tweak the connections in order to make it out-of-phase always, just like the old guitars. I don't need the normal configuration of the middle position (never use it), so I get that extra "out-of-phase sound". Thanks for the demo of the sounds and the explanations, just what I needed! Parabéns do Uruguai!
Kwihan Woods thanks for sharing
Realy great video man. didn't know anything about this out of phase trick. Is it possibile to achieve on a strat, or is it just a thing of 2 pickups guitar?
Yes it is. I have it on my Knaggs. It’s also great!!!
Ordered my 920d 9 way strat harness today...thanks for ur vid
Great to know that! Please let me know how it turned out!
Thanks
I have something similar on my Knaggs
Hello fellow friend!! I'm from Argentina
I arrived here by accident, looking for some info of this AWESOME mod. I recently made to my MIM Tele the so called "Broadcaster" circuit mod and I'm love again with the tones she brings me now jajja. But I want something more to do, because I play mostly blues and classic Rock stuff. It would be nice if you can enlight me some advice of how to do this mod, because the Tele have the ground connection on the bridge plate, and it is necessary to isolate it from the pickup. I read a few years ago that its simpler to do this mod on the neck pickup instead.
Also one more question:
¿The push pull pot associated with this mod, is always be located on the "tone pot" or it can be made it on the Volume pot? ¿Is that a tradition that the tone pot needs to be push pull, or is by personal preference?
Thanks a lot for your video, your tone is awesome, and your playing is one of the best musical things I ever heard from a long time.
Hey! Thanks a lot. I’m not a tech guy at all so I can’t help you on that. As for the push pull it can be either on the volume pot or on the tone.
There are a lot of schematics online for this mod
Thank you for this video it explains it perfectly and I always wanted to know what out of phase was.
I’m super glad it helped!!!
Hello from Malaysia.
Nice guitar tone you got there.
Thanks a lot
Cool. I'm installing the Jimmy Page 21-tones wiring in my Epiphone Dot and one of the options is being out of phase.
Jonathas Duarte great option
Jonathas Duarte can you show us The wiring? Is it a kit?
Hi man please can you show us what you are doing? I thought Jimmy page didn't use nothing more than the normal circuits
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love the outta phase sounds bro!
i bought a used peavey raptor H/S/S strat clone a couple years ago and noticed in 2 and 4 it was outta phase...thought maybe the mid pup was wired backwards by mistake...
pulled it apart to get a closer look and its wired up correctly...the pups are ceramic magnet...the magnet looked a bit crooked on the bottom of the mid pup...so i was able to simply push it to center...
pulled it off the pup just to see if i could...it popped off nicely...i put it right back and marked the magnet and the pickup baseplate and re assembled the guitar leaving the bar mag on wrong...
loved the tones in 2 and 4 outta phase esp with the humbucker!
as icing on the cake i put a gilmour "modswitch" on the scratchplate and hooked it up b4 putting it all together...now theres a really wild tone with all 3 on at the same time lol!
its stayin like it is! factory oopsie and lovin it!
That’s how it happen for the first time. By accident!!!
@@BuddaGuedes i have another peavey raptor that im changing out the pups in and i want to "re create" the tones of my older one...
ill wire the middle pup backwards on purpose lol...
it should sound nice with wilkinson vintage voiced single coils on neck n middle...and a guitarmadness "59er" humbucker on the bridge...also the gillmour mod switch...
Let me know how it worked out
This is great. Thanks for the video. Best description of out of phase on youtube.
Thanks a lot
Best explanation for the out of phase sound there is :) Always been a huge fan of this tone and done it on my tanglewood Chicago (es335 copy) sounds brilliant
Tarvu thanks
I appreciate your guitaring ermao
Thanks a lot
Very well explained! Thanks!
Thanks a lot
Excellent demo - thanks!
Thanks. Good demonstration
You’re welcome
dude thank you for this explanation. I just know the sound and the name. It reminds me of how noise cancelling headphones work.
Eh eh!!!
One of the biggest misconceptions is of Jimmy Pages Les Paul. His "Out of Phase/Parallel " mods all came about circa 1984 (Post Led Zeppelin) Gibsons 'Jimmy Page ' models are (electrically) "Period Incorrect" for Led Zeppelin. J Pages guitar was 50 standard wiring throughout Led Zeppelin. I go into detail and replicate his live 1973 tone on my channel for any Jimmy Page Les Paul tone chasers
I know that’s true but Jimmy page used very bright tones, mainly due tu using the bright channel of his plexi.
@@BuddaGuedes Yes thats true, but the T Top is Very Bright (almost bordering on Tele tones) Did you hear my T Top on my channel.? Same as Jimmys.
That’s also right! Thanks for sharing
Very nice budda! Thanks for the video! And cheers from mexicoo!
I discovered the out of phase sound by accident on a Les Paul copy. I installed a 1985 Schaller Humbucker pickup in the neck position and a brand new Golden Age overwound humbucker in the bridge. I couldn't figure out what was going on at first until I started researching on the internet to verify this was the deal. Sounds exactly as he describes, Nasal and like a wah-wah in the middle position with both volume pots set at 10. As soon as I back off one of the volume slightly I get the full signal from the other pickup.
great demonstration (and great playing of course)! thx
Eleni Be thank you
Thanks Budda!You do the best TH-cam demos
Thak you só much for your kind words. Keep on watching and subscribe.
My strat bridge pickup is out of phase (so position 2 sounds weird but position 4 sounds fine) I’m debating getting it fixed or keeping it that way, since it is more unique this way.
That’s right.
Super cool! Very well explained!. Sounds good, too!
Paul Cote thanks
Very informative video, thanks. Subbed!
Thanks a lot
You’re normal tone and playing are awesome too ❤️
Thanks a lot
@@BuddaGuedes You use a Mesa Boogie in this video, right? I have an older Mesa Boogie Express 5:25. It is hard to dial in a good tone but once you've found it, it sounds great.... I connect it to external cabs, now with a vintage EVM12L, and a Tubescreamer for an extra boost if needed.
Yes I’ll playing through a Mesa boogie
you're such an excellent blues-man!
Thanks a lot
I removed the phase reverse option on a one modded tele when I got a Nashville. I found the “neck and middle” sound far more useful. My “Fat Nash” has a four way switch. Tele bridge. - bridge and (Strat) middle. - bridge and (Gibson Humbucker) neck. - humbucker only.
That’s why I use a push push knob. This way I can get both tones
I had this mod done to mine. Do you have significantly less volume in the out of phase position?
It`s normal.
That’s the thing. You lose a lot of signal
@@BuddaGuedes Good for rythm.
Hi Budda, I am here in Canada. I was wanting to know if you could tell me where I could find a wiring diagram of how to do this to my Fender Telecaster. Much appreciated if you could tell me how to do it or do a video showing the steps. Thanks from Michel
You could also buy a 6-way switch (which are available) to give all combinations: 1=bridge only, 2=both in series in phase, 3=both in series out-of-phase, 4=both in parallel in phase, 5=both in parallel out-of-phase, 6-neck only.
That’s a great ideia!! I’ll look into it
@@BuddaGuedes If you are interested, I've found a wiring diagram that allows these 6 sound modes, but using a 3 way switch and 2 push pull potenciometers. I think it's easier to use while playing, but I haven't built it yet, so I don't know if the diagram actually works, but it seems legit.
Please send it via Facebook or Instagram
@@BuddaGuedes I don't know your accounts, but here you can see it: www.tdpri.com/attachments/teleseriesparalleloop-jpg.458803/ if not, text me back
I would love to see that diagram, is that the oaks-grigsby 6 way switch?
I'm pretty sure that Hendrix used it in Freedom, thank for the kind explanation
I’m almost sure he didn’t but I’ll check it out!
Thanks for your comment
Hendrix did have similar tones but probably from a wah pedals in a fixed position
@@unknownkingdom I also thought that initially, but i think it might actually be the out of phase tone
Jimi was famous for using his wah as almost like a tone knob, cutting the bass for a solo. I’ve listened to countless recordings of him and he seemed to prefer a mid/treble- heavy sound. I think it’s possible but I don’t know for sure.
th-cam.com/video/SNuSVVorvGM/w-d-xo.html here’s a good example of him using his wah that way
Very clear way of describing the difference between the in phase and out of phase. Great vid!
Thanks a lot
I have to asmit i do not like the out of phase squawk sound but i enjoyed learning about it
I love it. It’s such a great new sound
Heey, suddenly caralho, greetings from Brazil, thank you for this demonstration. Definitively looking to put an OOP push/pull on my guitar.
nice feel fella
Thanks
Anyone here because of Brian May
Here’s one of the greats using out of phase
Yes
Of course
@@BuddaGuedes, yes, but in addition to using out of phase his pickups were also wired in series.
If you would like to try series wiring with your Telecaster, buy an Oak Grigsby 4 Way Switch and get your friend to wire it for you. Then, you will get 6 sounds out of your Telecaster: Bridge, Bridge & Neck in Parallel in Phase, Bridge & Neck in Parallel out of Phase, Neck, Bridge & Neck in Series in Phase, Bridge & Neck in Series out of Phase.
Steve Albini did it for all of Big Black’s stuff. He used SD Quarter Pounders
Bom trabalho! 👍🏻😁
Obrigado 👍
great demo, thanks
Frank zappa played the fuck out of out of phase tones. It you've ever heard apostrophe, it's so great
Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow
nice going. Definitely one of the nicest findings for me also. I mean, I guess we all heard about this "out of phase" wiring one time or another, but I didn't care about it then - nothing that made my guitar sound weird and weak- haha, I was young! Great video as always! _cheers ;)
Why nobody mentions the REAL king of the out of phase sound, T-Bone Walker? He basically set the standard for everyone who came after, from Pee Wee Crayton, Lowell Fulson, Goree Carter to all the modern guys I don't even care about. Also check out Junior Barnard. Thank me later.
Thanks for the tips. TBone Walker is not that well known, that’s why. Although he was super important and I love his music. He was one of the main influencers of BB King too
@@BuddaGuedes I truly appreciate your video and your answer, but no, T-Bone Walker is not an unknown name. If you're into guitar you definitely have heard of Chuck Berry, B.B. King (as you correctly mention) but even the Allman Brothers Band... come on...
Great job Buddah!
Thanks
@@BuddaGuedes I have a telecaster ritchie kotzen signature, wich has the tone knob with this out of phase switch. I finally understood
Great! It’s just a killer tone
@@waltercelletti1745 The Richie Kotzen Tele has a series/parallel switch, though. No out of phase.
Yeah! Different things but great things
both sounds , in phase and out of phase sounded great i guess it really depends on what you want to create. Good Stuff ! I had a Fender Mustang that had a factory phase switch never should have sold that guitar , ugh !
Moda Mont of course it depends on what you’re looking to create. It all depends on the player!!! The out of phase was just a tone I was looking for a long time and finally figured it out. So I decided to share it with my audience. Someone might be looking for it too.
Maybe I’m confused but you throw the pickups out of phase on the tele so you can get the “2 and 4 way” strat sound if I’m correct? Right? Or am I opposite? Because your tele sounds way more strat like when you had them “in phase” in this video...
No. The out of phase makes it sound thin and konky not like a Strat.. for that you would need a middle pickup
Useful video... thanks bro
Thanks for your support
So helpful! Thanks dude-supreme!
You’re welcome my friend
Great demo. If you want some really weird inverted pickup sounds, checkout Big Black "Kerosene." Apparently one of their other tricks was notching flexible copper picks. Strange indeed.
I’ll have to check it out. Where can I get it?
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@@BuddaGuedes Apparently St Vincent covered it too. th-cam.com/video/fVhCo7PoVpA/w-d-xo.html
Explicação Sensacional ! Thank you man!
Thanks for the support
I recently flipped the magnet on the neck pickup in my les paul i absolutely love the sound but the volume drop is kinda annoying, do you know any trick in the wiring to kinda solve it? i have series/parallel wiring done as well
The volume drop is due to the cancelation. Use a boost or an overdrive pedal
Will this mod if done in my Jackson dinky help give me more of a early sabbath, candlemass and trouble guitar tone with high gain orange or marshall amp?
Not really the thing!!
@@BuddaGuedes the thing? I don't get it. What do you mean?
it's not the right sound, you need heavier bass tones for that music @@MetalHeadPyro510
@@AdonisMediaProductions It's the mids.
Fantástica explicação, to pensando em fazer numa les paul pra obter o timbre do Page. Abraços do Brasil
Boa. Grande abraço!
Budda
Budda, what it the deal with the big stone arch in the back ground of your vids ? You must shoot your videos in a really cool building. Very interesting
Bryan Keith it’s an old police building. The arch was the old entrance to the prison cells.
Wow. That is the coolest thing ever ! I don't mean to pry but, is this a building u live in or just usr as a studio ? The building has got to have some rooms with great natural reverb.
It’s my studio and yes it does have some great natural Reverb places
Budda Guedes Brilliant! You're amazing, I wish people would care about making their music natural sounding that you use natural room reverb not digital emulation! You really care and love what you do. Passionate and want the absolute best heart felt and genuine tone possible much like myself and a lot of other musicians who deserve way better recognition for there dedication and hours of practice and work.... It good for the soul, people don't record like that like they use to. You and your tech crew (if there is one) are brilliant and I'm now subscribed! Fantastic video as well! You really care about a community I hope the best for Doctor Guitar! Most blessings and long improving the Blues! Much love! -
Sam,
guitar player from Texas.
reverse phase and out of phase are the same?
No. You must be taking off reverse wound on a middle Strat pickup.
My pickups were out of phase. I corrected it. I despise that thin sound.
It’s a cool sound but it’s a sound
If you EQ the second channel of your amp with more bass and use a channel switcher, it can provide a nice unique tone. But I get that you don't like it. I was into it from the days of James Burton playing with Ricky Nelson.
I got this sound by accident when I upgraded the pickups on a 72 Keef Richards Tele reissue I owned - the two pickups I replaced were made by different manufacturers who used opposite polarity in their standards. So when I switched to middle position = instant nasal tone. Andy Summers used this sound on his modified Tele - I think he used it on the Flanged/Delayed harmonics he did as sound fx on a lot of his early Police stuff. I never got round to fitting a switch so I could change it to normal.
His Monster's Voice I’m addicted to this tone!!!
The Biggest "Blunder" is on the Gibson Jimmy Page Custom Shop Models where the 'Middle Pickup Position automatically defaults to a Peter Green 'Out of Phase' sound and (arguably )the most iconic Page Tone (Middle Position IN PHASE ) is not available! He probably uses this sound more than any other.. I don't know of any song where he uses a Les Paul out of phase. Must be somewhere in his solo career i suppose ?
Jimmy page used a lot of different things in the studio! For example the solo on Stairway to Heaven is a Telecaster.
@@BuddaGuedes Yes spot on.. Tele was used on the 1st Album, Stairway Solo .A Strat was first used on Presence ..Where people suffer 'Cloth Ear' is Zep 2 and Zep 3... That's a Les Paul..How some hear a Telecaster there is beyond me..