Vintage vs modern speakers
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- Are there any great vintage loudspeakers when compared to modern speakers?
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I just ordered your book today Paul, I love your honesty and humbled approach and appreciation for everything not just audio 👍
I've learnt heaps from your channel these winter Melbourne nights, enjoy watching the videos.
All the best I wish you and God bless
My large floorstanding Duntechs are about 30 years old and after a recap they still sound incredible.
This guy is so charming and intelligent. Thanks for sharing with us! Ive never even heard of this company before but after watching this and the virtual tour, I'm definitely going to look into your products, what a cool company!
Thank you Paul, looking forward to reading your new book.
The discussion on vintage loudspeakers starts after the 14,000 Hz feedback? But Paul is absolutely right, big vintage speakers rule.
The master of shoehorning
BIG VINTAGE SPEAKERS RULE 💯
Imagine remaking the Infinity RS-5's with current materials.
They basically did. They replaced almost everything to their own spec.
Do you mean the IRS-V? The RS-5 is a four driver stand mount speaker from the 80s. The Prime from Genesis Advanced Technologies is essentially a modernized IRS-V. genesisloudspeakers.com/products/prime/
...or the RSe.
I have two 1970's speakers that are just so much fun to listen to. Marantz HD770's and Polk Monitor 10's. They sound great after all these years. They have al liveliness to them I don't hear much in modern speakers. From soft jazz to rocking out, they just make music so exciting.
I have HD880 , fabulous speakers !
First time watching this guy's videos. He stole my heart the moment he started talking. 😂 What a wholesome dude.
Ps audio.... thanks so much. I watch all your teachings. I have set of bozak B-2000. Aluminium cones on both the 8 inch driver and 200y tweets. Have to respect some old engineering. Those speakers are so nice sounding. Circa 1959 or 60. Perfect high and mid...
I’m driving my JBLSovereign speakers (mid 70’s) with 077 high compression drivers added with all PS Audio Stellar system including regenerator. Sounds fabulous to me Paul. Thanks for the videos
Proper vintage can work very well.
Just Bloody Loud!!
@@joeking1019 If need be!
great to see you healthy Paul!
There’s a Braintree in MA too. In New England most....(all??) of the towns are named after ones in England.
There is one town for no brainers too it's called Aintree... up north !!
@@janinapalmer8368 Wow!
Pretty AND smart!
I live in Antwerp.
A good analogy to the IRS is an amateur chorus that sounds fantastic even though no one person's voice excels.
What an absolute brainiac. Of audio information. Very humble man. Love it.
I listen to every word you say about stereo equipment.
Do your own research...
Having your speakers reconed can make a world of difference and also redoing the Crossovers can add sweetness to any set of speakers sometimes tremendously...
Yes, redoing crossovers with modern components like high end caps, metal resistors and big air-core inductors is like night and day.
Does speaker re-coning not totally change their character?
Hi Lance. Ever experienced any bozak aluminium cones? I have some B-2000. 3 ways. And let me tell you they are all aliminium. Tweets included. 1960. Crossovers all parralel capacitance I replaced with new film. But ill say one thing. They didn't need it. I'd like this genuinely friendly and smart man to tell us about himself. What you listen to? And what brands and models do you think have been over looked thru history? Radio archives are insane. Theres more patents than the world took to create.
@@rowgli Re-coning would likely change the character, unless OEM cones are used. I had new surrounds put on my vintage JBL drivers, keeping the original cones. Dust caps were also replaced, but it didn't change the original sound.
@@rowgli yes reconing will change their tonal qualities usually for the better the cones get dry and brittle and the tonal quality sounds the same as the cardboard, so when you put a new one on there you get a much deeper richer sound or better Bass... also a better mid-range and a sweeter tweeter...
Great topic! I've only heard Vintage high end in detail (JBL 4311 and 4412, been in the family since new - now passed down to me). Already blown away with my semi-decent audio chain. So far, already fantastic - Just need to up my output power, lower my THD and noise floor, and also get a proper tube phono-stage preamp.
Answer starts at 2:40
I have modern, FOCAL 726 Towers, and vintage, Large Advents, EPI M50's, DYNACO A-35's. I rotate the use - lots of fun hearing the differences in all 4 speakers.
It's the same for me I have a pair of Thiel CS.5s.. And I love them with all of my heart. To me these speakers are AWESOME and I'd never give them away or sell them....
Some of the best speakers ever made are vintage.
What Paul really wanted to say is: "I also happen to be vintage".
Great Job Paul! Thank you for your precious advice.
I currently run some Elac S20 speakers that I got in really good condition for only 50€. They are incredible! Pretty flat response, great detail and precision in the sound stage, wich still is rather wide for the amount of accuracy it offers. Also they go down to about 32Hz flat in my room, wich really impressed me!
That was great thanks so much!
Thanx, totally agree with this-one! You mentioned the JBL corner horns; I own a pair of Tannoy G.R.F. corner horns of the same period and I never would give them away... they work with ease on every volume, never sound stressed or stressing, and they were developped in the late 50's. They got it right and it seems to stay.
I think he meant to say Klipsch. I don't recall a JBL "Corner horn"
@@gotham61 I guess he meant the JBL «Hartsfield»
@@mischadickerhof5375 Possibly
Thanks for this comment stream! This is embarrassing, but I'd never heard of the Hartsfield; only the Paragon. I've been listening to my 4343s since around 1980, so I'm a JBL fan. Here's the entrance to the Hartsfield rabbit hole:
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I got a chance to hear some vintage infinity kappa 8s I think that were in a beautiful rosewood cabinet that sounded better than most modern towers I've heard. I also think it's satisfying bringing vintage systems back to life.
Thanks for these thoughts. What would you suggest to replace my Jamo Concert 8 speakers, which are now getting on, but are superb with my 300B amp?
Hi Paul ! Im Ciprian from Romania and i have some questions. Is enough a very low THD for an amplifier to be a quality amplifier or must have other good specifications? Why the most very high quality system like audiophile systems,have high power ? Is the high power amplifier and speakers recommended for audiophile system in condition we listen at low level like 30-50W or is good to have like 100-150w also ?Thank you for all videos!
Love the video. Wouldn’t trade my 1984 Klipsch Cornwalls for
anything (except maybe LaScalas).
But you've said in previous videos that you have modified your IRS-Vs to the hilt. So is it really vintage?
Some vintage loudspeakers (the LS3/5a, Quad ELS 57 and Linn Isobarik spring to mind) have never been bettered at what they do best. Interesting point is a good 1957 system (say, for instance, Garrard 401 / SME arm / Shure cartridge with Quad valve amplification and Quad Electrostatics) could still hold its head high among some of the most rarefied audiophile systems. In my opinion the main benefit of advanced technology is not necessarily "reinventing the wheel" but allowing significant quality improvements to channel down into more affordable components.
Still using Linn Isobarik's on my Naim Statement Amp
@@dickluxor My Isobariks still going strong on the end of a Naim 250. I treated them to new custom foam grilles about three years ago and I reckon they'll see me out; I've instructed my wife to remove the drivers and then she can bury me in them - hopefully not for a while yet, though! Thanks for the comment and continue to enjoy ;0)
Pretty much. But I think when you look at the big picture with vintage audio, you’d have to spend a lot more money on contemporary equipment than you would with a few hundred bucks and a few months scouring Facebook marketplace. You can get a genuinely respectable audio system for ~$350 with vintage equipment. Amplification wise, I’d say a decent modern class D is good enough for a start, if your speakers are good and the amp is a decent match. Simply because amps can be a bit annoying with oxidized controls, capacitors going out, that a beginner or even moderate stereo enthusiast typically lacks the experience to deal with, and it can be expensive.
Sure, some cheaper klipsch speakers might be a bit more revealing. But they really can’t capture the scope or attack of some old massive powerful loudspeakers.. or how the sound wafts in the air. They also tend to dig lower bass wise than many modern bookshelves. Again all of this in the sense that you’d have to spend quite a bit more to match the vintage tech.
That’s funny, I live near Braintree, but I’ve never heard someone separate the two words. Or even thought about it like that.
…Life will now never be the same. 😮😂❤
Paul, what would you classify let's say AR 3's or Large Advents, KLH model 24's and Dynaco A25's? Those are all roughly two footers or old school bookshelf speakers. Where do those fit into the mix against modern day bookshelf's?
Braintree is also the name of a town in Massachusetts . Also I still love my vintage 1985 Ohm Walsh 2 speakers as they image better than 90% of all new speakers.
I just got a very well functioning set of Electro Voice Wolverines from 1959 and everyone who has heard them is amazed by how great they sound. Not saying they are the greatest speakers ever but for $50 on Facebook Marketplace I’m pretty happy
i got my 1970s pye isotronic 7000 back in 1999 and are still my mains now
Me and my friends are a little group of music lovers. Of all of us, I have the oldest speakers (dated from 1978). I reworked the crossover-caps and (as the only one of our little group) set them up propperly. I think I've got by far the best sound. :D
I wish I had a little group like that! I have one friend that was very happy to take my hand me down speakers and took my advice and bought and pioneer AVR as his first piece of stereo gear. My system blows the doors off of all of my friends listening setups but they’re not as crazy as I am about this stuff.
@@graxjpg I know, what you mean. In fact we're musiclovers. But I'm the only "Audiophiliac" in our little group. Sometimes I feel bit misunderstood with all my efforts concerning the sound though ;)
But I appreciate very much the HiFi-community here on the web. Hopefully there'll be post-pandemic audioshows to meet eachother! Stay safe!
@@sebastianbachert9528 this online community is the only place I have had access to this kind of information anywhere in my life, and i really appreciate that! I’m trying to get others into preserving high fidelity but I don’t know many other people to start with! Haha
great question
I have a pair of Mirage M1-si speakers and am torn between selling it or buying some huge power amps and using it. If I sell I don’t imagine I get it’s worth. If I buy amps for it, it’ll be a costly affair. But the frequency range is amazing down to 25Hz. Any suggestions to sell or keep lol ?
I am looking forward to reading your book which I just ordered from amazon. I cannot do the marathon listening your other subscriber did and would much rather read the book as I like flipping back and forth between pages - just as you did. It's excruciating doing so on Kindle.
I have Vitage (late 80s) TAD speakers. It doesn't have the amazing power resistance capabilities of current drivers that can put 300w at good use. They take max 160w, and 60w continuous. That's their largest caveat, and their crossover parts. Those were upgraded to modern poly caps and inductors. Beside that, they compare one to one to ATC SCM100 and then some.
Magnepan. They have been making the same designs since the 70s. They were way ahead of the curve then. Other companies are only now catching up in regards to soundstage and imaging with box speakers. The only reason that they are not more popular is their requirement for more space and power.
Magneplanars have changed a lot since the 70s.
@@gotham61 maybe, but the sound is very much the same.
They sound great, but I found the sweet spot to be so small!
I have none of these issues with the Martin Logan ESL 9's. (0;
@@donny303 yes, and the image collapses when you turn your head, BUT when it’s right, it’s amazing.
My way of thinking is, any speaker, new, or old, if you like the sound, then every 12 years put new surrounds, and suspensions in them. If you use them with a lot of power, build some new crossovers every 12 to 15 years. I call it maintenance really, and you'll be glad you did, because they'll sound amazing!
Hi Michael Can you explain more on the surround/suspension?
@@nbk1943 the surrounds are the foam or rubber at the top of the speaker cone. It fastens the speaker cone to the speaker basket, and they start to deteriorate over time causing the upper end to get out of alignment. The suspension is at the bottom of the cone, and the same can happen. It cost about $30-40 per speaker, but worth every penny if you love the sound they make. If you don't know of a speaker repair shop, ask a general manager at the movie theater, they'll know someone. I hope this helps.
I bought some old jbl bookshelf speakers on the cheap. Most speakers, new or old benefit benefit from better crossover componants. I rebuilt the box too. I now have 5 times what I paid for them into them, but... I only paid 5 bucks apiece for them. Not perfect, but paired with a 9ft long diy basshorn they are super good for what I have in them.
I grew up listening to my dad's pair of Goodmans Magister that was built in 1972. They sound way better than my LG Cm4550 hi-fi system that was built in 2015.
Sometimes I wonder if modern hi-fi systems truly deserve the title "hi-fi".
Paul, the promo for the book & disc are a little confusing. Will the enclosed disc play on a standard CD player or DVD/BluRay player? I'd like to get a copy of disc and book but don't want to find I can't use the audio when it arrives.
I thought I was ordering the book and the "CD" as mentioned at 1:13.....but then AFTER I ordered the package, I was confounded that I only ordered the book "version"...I say BAIT and SWITCH...
Where do I start
My main speakers are from 1974 rebuild in 2017 from top to bottom.
I have a wide collection of vintage, lots of Arnie nudells too
Is that a touch screen mixing console? Looks cool!
I have a set of early eighties bookshelves (BNS 232) that are great. Much better than the more modern KEF Cresta 10's I had bought new in 2006. They are bit bigger but that is because they have a closed cabinet. Much better bass control and no mudding the vocals. So it depends. The Rogers LS3/5A from 1975 is a great bookshelf speaker and much better than most bookshelves you can buy new today. Speakers aren't better because they are modern or vintage. Speakers are better because they have been carefully designed with love for music.
Thanks for this video, I am buying rotel kas500 amplifier to pair it with Zu DW 6 that has full range 12 oms speakers .. is that going to work or can that harm the amp or speaker? Thank you again
I have never found a Subwoofer driver that sounds as good as the Infinity Kappa perfect 12D Vq. With the insert that changes the driver Q, that huge magnet, the Magnesium/aluminum cone. I just wish i could find 1 or 2 more to use it in my main H/T.
I got some technical 12s twin tower speakers they are SB A37 they huge speakers but they rock hard
Yes, I am also asking this question myself. How do old vintage speakers hold up these days?
Like Wharfedenton from the 70s or 80s compared to the latest Denton 85? Old Klipsch to newer Klipsch? and so on
We have to limit 1 term tho' --> Bass is definitely a lot better on newer speakers in general.
I want to order the book and SACD, I don’t have a player tho (but I have 14 VCRs ugh). Anyone recommend a decent one that’s relatively on the cheap?
Literally everyone who watched this started thinking about Paul making an IRS6. lol.
Celestion Dittons are always worth a listen - especially the 66 Series Two.
Thirty year old Totem Acoustic Model ones are hard to beat
You think Braintree, Essex is so funny? You also have some interesting place names in the US. Intercourse, Pennsylvania - Ding Dong, Texas - Peculiar, Missouri - Bat Cave, North Carolina - Booger Hole, West Virginia and Pee Pee, Ohio. I think you win!!
Modern speakers have the potential to sound amazing, the problem imo is in the voicing of the speaker, at first they sound very transparent and detailed but in reality they don't sound natural and are very fatiguing.
I think harbeth are one of the few exceptions to this but they need dragging into the 21st century to make use of the best driver designs available.
I loved the Harbeth Compact 7es-3 that I had. People who take speakers apart aren't always impressed by the parts used inside by Harbeth but they do sound very nice.
I just bought Marantz SP1515s Saturday and they are the best speakers I have ever heard. They were made in 1990 and cost me $75. Full, rich and flat. Can you guess the size of the woofer? SP 15 15 is a hint.
Hi Paul, quick question - what kind of computer is that in front of you in this video?
Looks like a Microsoft surface studio, if not then something very similar
This is subjective again. Guys listening to speakers in 60s, 70s or 80s develop a certain taste. A young audiophile listening in 2020 to Zu dirty weekend may not prefer that vintage sound. Because he/she didn’t grow up with it. I am told by rigid audiophiles that old SME tone arms & old vintage turntables are best for listening to pre 80’s music. My question is why are new space age titanium tone arms being developed? Why air suspended platters? To improve the sound🤔? Same applies to speakers
Yep, exposure and, sometimes, associated events tie a little nostalgia to a lot of accidental ear training as we grow and listen - I grew up listening to very cheap stereo gear and the 1st stereo I bought sounded great to me becasue it was in the ball park of what i was used to. I was slowly exposed to better gear and so my taste and analysis became better over time. When I was given a pair of mid 70 AR speakers, (4x I think), in the mid 80s I was blown away again.
M Pi Yes, sounding different doesn’t necessarily means sounding good. And, how one accepts CHANGE depends on individual person. I want to listen to Aretha Franklin on a Garrard 401 and also on a latest cutting edge German innovation. I will get a different flavour of her tone and music. DIFFERENT is the word, not BETTER or WORST. Well, it could be worst😊.
@M Pi I think you nailed it. Good post.
I did audiophile nono on channel 2. I have pair of mixed 12's in car box. 2 ohm. I added 2- 3 ohm sorround speakers in series. And I will tell you bud. I really created something 👌. May I ask you your opinion on old sg systems equipment?. I have a SG-215. Should I mod the piece? I want hifi. I do not croon. But its really quite a statement. Looks nice. I want your opinion sir.
I would like to add as a third channel. Secondary bass amp
do you prefer acoustic suspension or bass reflex?
Hi paul , in your honest , when is the golden era of speaker and Amplifier?
What would be an equivalent in terms of sound quality to a vintage JBL L166?
So the IRSVs work like a an engine. The load is distributed throughout many pistons, Imagine having a 5.7L with one or two pistons?
Paul, and about the Magnepans, wich I havia...
There's a city of Braintree in Massachusetts also.
Can't find the book on your website!
Guide book and cd meant to work together? Why are sold separately?
The town next to where I like is Braintree. Massachusetts!
It is on Amazon Kindle
a big vintage altec lansing is all you need....
May I ask your bozak opinion
@@andyhyde4711 90 precent there......
What are those black speakers behind you?
I am from Europe. I only use one brand of speakers named Piega from Switzerland. Reason: the sound fantastic(except for the small center versions) and they keep my wife happy because they look gorgious. Question: is this brand sold in the US?
Have you listened to Tannoy's monitor Gold? for sterility
I am an absolute layman but intuitively I would think with these new strong magnets the speakers today could be very fast and powerful that this is no guarantee for something that sounds nice. Perhaps a modern speaker could be very tiring to listen because of it's undeniable presence.
Where get a get the digital version of The Audiophile's Guide SACD since I have a modern system with no CD player?
Just rip it to flac from your computer.
Unless you are a Mac user of course, then you should rethink your life choices.
@@joshua43214 SACD ripping is definitely possible on Macs. Just need a compatible disc drive
I agree too paul, you cannot change the laws of the soundwaves and moving air
“One hundred thirty-tooth” . . . I definitely got my money’s worth out of this one. Thanks for the video Paul!
Ps audio.... may I ask what your bogen opinion is. I have db230A. I hold it in hi regard. Bozaks to go with it. I won't get into my subs. But some audiophile snobs tell me they don't see any sold. I respect this amp. It got me into the tubes. Why isn't this popular amp?
Seems to me right up there with bozaks. Alot of work under hood. Why didn't bogen make it in consumer goods?
Hi Paul,, thanks for these videos. I find myself watching one after the next these days. In your videos about speaker sensitivity, one thing that never came up in the question or reply was the Ohm rating of the speakers. For instance, my speakers are Pioneer Elites by Andrew Jones that are 4 Ohms rated 86dB sensitivity. How does that play a part when comparing sensitivity of an 8 Ohm speaker?
Sensitivity is for 8 Ω. Your speaker is roughly equivalent to 89 dB, 8 Ω speaker. Half the impedance, double intensity, so 3 dB less.
A dB / 2,83 V at 1 m for 8 Ω, or dB / 1 W. One watt, 1 W = (2,83 V)² / 8 Ω. A speaker 4 Ω will need 2 W for the same voltage. P = U·I , U = R· I, I = U/R, so P= U · U/R or P = U²/R. (Edited by Tortuga) : However units are important, and the result might be lower: 86 dB/2,83 V for 8 Ω = 86 dB/ 1 W = 86 dB/2 W for 4 Ω = 83 dB/1 W for 4 Ω
Sensitivity is not specified in terms of the speaker impedance.
It just refers to the loudness measured at a distance of 1 meter using a 2.83 volt sine wave.
This voltage was originally derived from the 1 watt into 8 ohms, 2.83 squared divided by 8 equals the 1 watt.
An 86db rated speaker of 4 ohm impedance will have the same sensitivity as an 86db speaker of 8 ohm impedance.
@@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez Please note that I am not changing the drivers in the speaker box.
I am just accepting the sensitivity figure quoted by the manufacturer which takes into account whatever the individual driver impedances are.
@@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez tha KS for the info. When I got my speakers I researched which AVR could handle the 4 Ohm speakers. I ended up with a Pioneer Elite SC-99 which matches up nicely
Just picked up some monster 140lbs Polk rta 15TL speakers for a measly 50 bucks. I buy and sell vintage speakers because people pay crazy prices for them. I always demo them prior to selling just to make sure they function as they should. Never heard a pair of vintage speakers I liked until now. These vintage polks sound really nice, exceptionally good. I'm actually going to run them for a bit. I guess this means I have to stop ripping on all you hipsters and your trendy vintage gear.
There is also a Braintree in Massachusetts.
I lpve hearing speaker distortion, I like hearing a speaker pushed hard and compressing a bit, I like the "sound" of speakers despite the leaps that modern technology and materials have done to make them invisible (or inaudible). I think our brain knows when an actual acoustic event is taking place rather than an emulation of one.
Paul, Braintree ALSO is in Massachusetts, I would think every British town name made its way over across the pond.
I had Ohm L bookshelf speakers for years and they were incredible sounding speakers. I doubt that any current speakers AT A COMPARABLE PRICE POINT (adjusted for inflation) would beat the Ohm L.
I've got a pair also. Hadem since 1975. New. Just, just got the woofers swapped out for original from Ohm . Well worth it.
How's yours holding up??
Curious to know.thankx.
Do you still got them even.
Nice to read that someone had a set.
@@peterrichard3706 Sadly not. I loved those Ls but went through a period where I was moving frequently and traveling often and sold them. I later picked up a used pair of self-powered B&O Beolab 3 speakers that I converted to Bluetooth but they don't have the place in my heart if the Ls. I bought the Ohms at their factory in Brooklyn..... I met the company owner, the people who actually build the speakers.... just writing this makes me sentimental.
What is that monitor?
I'd love to listen to a JBL Paragon.
Wher i can buy this book?
i'm confused that since your book and your CD are supposed to go together, then why in the world didn't you sell them together? Why isn't the CD included with the book?
They are available as a set directly through PS Audio web site.
And its not a CD, its SACD. Paul isn't interested in catering to plebs. 😉
He just won’t come and say you HAVE to buy both the book and sacd. Offering them separately is a con.
@@rklmbd2934 I have the SACD there is a CD layer it works fine in my CD transport.
@@rklmbd2934 you are literally a plebeian, and Paul did make it for you too. That’s why there is a CD layer
there is a braintree subway station on the red line in boston MA
I'm trying to get this book but it won't ship out of US...anyway to get them outbof US?
Sure. Go to Amazon: www.amazon.com/99-True-Almost-National-Bestseller/dp/1733583319/
I have not gone speaker shopping for many years. I must admit, it is, to a great degree, out of fear that I will hear some, that I can afford, that are better than my beloved Energy C4s, from the 90s. Maybe, one day.....
I was listening to some Thiel 3.6's which sound pretty god but then I decided to take them out and try some original large Advent speakers I had just fixed and the Advents seemed more musical and better balanced. The Thiels had more detail in the highs but I would rather listen to the Advents for their overall musicality. I listen to Acoustats at home and have heard nothing better. I prefer them to Martin Logans and Magnepans and even the IRS's.
Dear paul
You meant klipsch corner horns not JBLs, yes .?
Another point is when you talk about multiple middle range drivers on the IRTs vs an excellent midrange driver that preferably inbodys high frequency driver in the middle of it what happens the advantage of the point source concept in speaker design..?
I have not listed to the infinity ultimate reference towers ( I have listened to the smaller towers) , do not they overwhelm your listening room?
Dynamic I am sure they are but how seamless and how transparent can they sound ? By the way I am a big fan since your early years.
Long live the HPM 100s
Does anybody heard Tamon speakers with huge woofer, like 5-way speaker? Are they any good?
Love your videos, Paul, but I gave up on this with the book. I'd like to think I don't need it, been doing this for a living for 35 years, but I'm legally blind now so.... Non audio books are out. On the plus side my Vandersteen Kentos are singing so maybe I'm OK. Need to find a video on your DAC. I have a very good one but it seems to prefer PCM over DSD and I have access to some great DSD classical recordings. Best
Paul- when you’re talking about new PS speaker vs IRS V, raises the question of why you wouldn’t add more drivers to the new PS. Great videos!
Price point, gross margin and WAF. You need it to sell and make money. Not many people will be in the market for a $150k speaker that requires its own 2500 sq ft room.
@@user-od9iz9cv1w That is a big room, that like 3 times the size of where I live😄.
It also takes a team of engineers to set the big dinosaurs up.
@@SJMessinwithBoats and then the problems when you decide to downsize or run the estate sale LOL
@@user-od9iz9cv1w The IRS-V's will fit in an 8" ceiling perfectly (they are designed with this in mind), and the PS Audio listening room in not much bigger than my living room, probably about 18'x20'.
The folks that could afford this almost certainly have a room they can be used in.
@@joshua43214 IMHO the room is too small. Yes the people that dedicate a room to this hobby and can afford 6 figure speakers can find a room for them. I am in that camp. But also not a big market and lots of suppliers.
Based on what I have seen, PS Audio is targeting a price point of sub $30k and a look that could fit into the living room of an understanding spouse. More of those buyers out there.
Some eceptions to that rule, we have Jamo Concert 8's standmounts, which I bet you cannot find something better for under a few grand, Seas still make those Excel drivers though.