Can we stop calling those stalkers, engene? I don’t want our fandom name associated with that kind of behavior. Real fans don’t do that. Real engene respect our artists. So they are not real engene and don’t deserve to have any connection to our fandom name.
this is unfortunately the "no true scotsman" fallacy. you need to accept that some people who are fans are desperate enough to be noticed that they'll cross boundaries they shouldn't. it dosent do you any favors to claim those people arent "real fans" when they are, and they are out there doing things like that. it's frustrating to be associated with such people who don't align with our own morals, but it's the responsibility you take on when you call yourself as part of a fanbase, you learn that you cannot control the other people and saying anyone who does something that's unhealthy towards the idol "isn't actually a fan" just isn't true and makes it obvious you just want to distance yourself instead of promoting better boundaries in the community itself.
He literally just wanted to share his Spotify wrapped with us, as is tradition with Spotify listeners at this point, and you toxic fans had to ruin it. Don't even consider yourself Engene if you did this or do anything to make idols uncomfortable. A true fan wouldn't do shit like this. Get a life and let idols be human. Leave them alone.
@@erikascencen so you're ok with people stalking their idols as long as people don't interact with them? Btw, you definitely can find and follow someone's account from a playlist name that's not private. And that clearly made Jay uncomfortable. Again, comes back to DONT FUCKING DO SHIT TO MAKE YOUR IDOL UNCOMFORTABLE! Foh if you're gunna defend this disgusting behavior.
jungwon " engene's won't do this " proceed to stalk , make our jay delete his Spotify account 😃👍. Edit : for more details. Jay did a live yesterday on weverse, everything was going fine until he showed us his Spotify wrapped. He without any doubt showed it on the screen, few hrs later some engene's stalked his playlist which apparently was not private, they followed his account and man that made jay uncomfortable and he deleted his Spotify account 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 you all crossing the boundaries so easily. it's disrespectful, imagine the trust issues he would have with us now ? 😐... those engene's shouldn't even count themselves as a part of the fandom. "It's just an account" people like you normalise stalking and making someone uncomfortable. He didn't liked it, he didn't approved us to follow his account. "He asked for it " no he didn't, you all giving me creepy vibe like you seriously normalise stalking at this point? and blame the victim in this case ? This ain't a over dramatic thing. it's about trust and privacy. once you broke the trust , he ain't gaining that back easily. Edit : lmao thanks for 200k views and the people who watched and commented my video being over dramatic;) and me being sensitive. love you it motivates me saur much more :3 edit : Removing all the comments who drag down sunoo and jay and mention jay as a freaking bully,u all don't even know the freaking details about the boy nor do u know them personally stfu , "he bullied sunoo" no he didn't just knowing the content from the title regarding the issue, u ain't got the right to talk shit about my boys . if u think I am being childish and sensitive ok got no problem but i will protect them in all the cost
This honestly makes me want to bawl my eyes out, Jay trusted them, he trusted engenes and them people just took advantage of it and they act like its fine the have done nothing. Some engenes think they can do what ever they want and get away with it, how pathetic…
thats sad.. but we real engenes, we know our boundaries when it comes to this boys.. we need to understand too, saesangs are there left and right. as well as toxic people.. sigh..
on the screen, there is jay's playlist that he created himself and its not private. so some fans went on searching for that playlist name and from there, they know who is the playlist owner, which is jay and proceed to followed him
@@unknown_8588 yeah, but that makes jay deleted his account bcs he felt uncomfortable with ppl mass following him. thats why ppl are mad to those that stalked his spotify acc
@@unknown_8588 but isn’t it strange how they literally just stalk and found jay’s secret account.? i mean I know it’s just a music account but those “fans” probably knew jay made that account secret so no one could stalk him and those “fans” betrayed his trust by stalking and finding his account.
Agree every time an idol reveals something important about themselves Of Course Creeps And Stalkers Come At Them I'm humiliated Embarrassed And Disgusted At This World Each Day I Lose Hope For Life Every Single Day Because I See These Horrible Disgusting Humiliating And Embarrassing Toxic People Who Are Apart Of This World And Call Themselves Fans
A playlist reflects the person's all the emotional sides , even I am not open up to let someone check my playlist even if they are close to me. Everyone has their own privacy and we should respect it ,because their personal space is their personal space not yours. I feel bad for Jay some people really don't understand. A friend of mine once keep on insisting to see playlist by saying "I won't Judge, who cares" even after I keep explaining that why it makes me uncomfortable and when I finally clearly said "NO" her mood went off 🙄. A playlist that reflects one self is build gradually while exploring the music, I hope Jay would be able to make soon🤍
You know sometimes it's humiliating to say I am a part of this fandom. Not saying I hate Enhypen, I don't have anything against them. But the fans, the fans are what makes me feel embarrassed to call myself as an engene. This does happen in a lot of other fandoms too as I also may feel the same to some other groups. Like at this point your taking it to far like your not even earning anything out of it except the idol feeling uncomfortable and upset and hurt. I'm nit just talking about this I'm talking about every single time hate has happened. At this point I feel like the idols don't like us at all because this all gets tiring and annoying but also hurts them too. Both physically and mentally. To be honest I would have felt all this too of I were him.
Yeah I Agree It's Just So Humiliating For Them To Say That They Are A Fan Of Him and Compared To Us Actually Fans It's Embarrassing And Humiliating For Them To Say That There Fans Of Him
And just being compared to them is disgusting Humiliating and embarrassing I'm honestly giving up on this world each day because all I see are toxic people ruining it
im an engene but yall other engenes are too much.They trust us alot and some fans make their idols uncomfortable.If you stalk them or do something thats really bad dont call your self a fan
I agree with you I lose hope every day because of these toxic people who call themselves Fans it's embarrassing Humiliating and disgusting for them to say that
To think that he had to delete something that potentially brought him comfort in a world full of stress because of some of us absolutely breaks my heart! 😢 He trusted us and we just turned around and spat in his face! I genuinely believe that he is one of the sweetest people on camera and off. He doesn’t deserve this; I genuinely believe that Jay is too pure for this world. 😭
it's so upsetting because he trusted us enough to share a piece of his life but toxic engene decided to cross the line and ruin everything :( and the fact that after that whole thing he still decided to interact with us to talk about the final world cup through weverse, bc if it was me I would be so upset and mad but no he's not :( we really don't deserve him
Jangan sering ngelewatin batas guys, bikin idolnya nyaman sm kita juga. Jd inget fandom yg pd ganti ava twt warna indigo biar akun idolnya gak ke lacak, sama yg nyuruh hapus postingan idolnya karna ada nama hotelnya dan spread info buat gak nyebarin. Semoga gak ada kejadian gini lg, mereka sm aja kek kita orang biasa yg butuh privasi
He trusted us and some people really went and stalked his Spotify 😔 I feel so bad for him. Trust isn’t gained easily and engene’s that do things like this brake the trust they have with us. 😭
I can’t imagine how uncomfortable he must have felt, engene’s should know that there are limits so don’t cross them in they shouldn’t cross any of those limits with other idols(my english isn’t good sorry😅)
A lot of kpop fans consider stalking as a normal thing which is really creepy and disgusting, engenes we shouldn't be like those fans who make their idols uncomfortable with their actions and behaviour,they trust us a lot and as a engene we should see that has a honour instead taking their kindness for granted. I hope these kind of things will not happen in our fandom.
I followed his Spotify account and listened to his playlist, his songs were so good. but then, one day I was supposed to listen to his awesome songs, but his acc was gone... his playlist had the best songs. I never told anyone about his playlist. I can't believe "fans" think they're cool for stalking idols
Bro i literally hate myself for that, even though it wasn’t even me and i wasn’t present during the live, it just makes me sad how people can do these things but get angry when someone does it to them, like if your going to stan a group than do something like this you are going to have to face the consequences for your actions! jay did nothing to deserve this kind of thing, he was just trying to hate his Spotify playlists with us so we can see what music he listens to and people decide to do this, you make me sick
it’s sad how an idol wants to genuinely share something with their fans and some people who call themselves fans turn it into something horrible , i hope he gets comfort for this situation , true fans would respect his decision to show us
im literally probably one of the only ones that is on both sides bc Jay was uncomfortable that they stalked his account or whatever you wanna say other than stalk and he had to delete his account that’s really the only problems cuz it’s not that big of a deal bc all u can really do is follow the person and look at the music they listen to so yah
I have always wished for ENHYPEN to be comfortable with ENGENEs to the point where they can talk about anything without getting hated on or whatever just like how Bang Chan trusts Stays or like TXT's relationship with MOAs but how can that be possible when he only shared his Spotify wrapped and he's account got stalked
I missed his live n didn't even know he shared it but I'm disappointed by the people who did this... he seriously trusted us n thought to share it. I can feel his frustration abt it.. plz stop it now💔 I feel so sorry for Jay
why are people like this. why can’t we all just get along and be kind to one another instead of stalking someone to the point where they have to get rid of something they liked. if you stalked him you should be ashamed of yourself.
F those Toxic Saesangs He Frickin trusted us HOW CAN HE GAIN IT BACK!?!! Just cuz of these people he'll lose TRUST IN US JUST BECAUSE OF THESE TOXIC HATERS if y'all hate them why are y'all so SERIOUS about it just LET THEM GO
@@supercoolfirstnamesupercoo4510 thinking back at it you're right but when i writed this comment i had a really horriable day and this didn't made it any better. And somedays latter i understanded that being sad for this is really....i dont know but jay is famous and ofc some fans will stalk his account either if they had bad intentions or good ones so yeah its not that deep
They did him dirty. Me personally I would never do that to anyone, even someone I hate, I actually saw it but I didn’t do anything. Why would anyone do that to someone like him?! ❤️❤️❤️❤️😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😭😭😭😭😭
He just wanted to share something he liked with us.. why do some people think it's okay to treat him like a character to interact with, rather than a living person..? He is not a toy, and he's not anyone's entertainment. He's an artist and a human being just like everyone else.. These things are not okay.
Never been happier I don't have Spotify- but seriously Jay didn't deserve that, no one ever deserves to be treated that way it's not fun or nice to have to deal with stalking and invasion of your privacy? Like they singlehandedly took something away from him that he loved without a second thought and think they have a right to defend themselves when they don't
To delete a Spotify account sucks. That’s like deleting a TH-cam account you’ve had for years and losing all the songs you’ve discovered over time, losing all your podcasts, your playlists… everything. :/
Why are we still calling them fans or engenes? It's clearly they are not engenes. Making your idols or any idols UNcomfortable isnt profitable for people calling themselves a fan of the certain person.
Man, I would've loved to see his favorite songs that he shared and his top artists to see if I had any similar or I don't know found someone else to listen to??...some people have zero chill.
It’s very possible he also just made his playlists and account private but it is incredibly disturbing how such a little thing can be taken from idols just because “fans” don’t respect boundaries
To the ones saying we bekng dramatic, like dude, it is still his account, it could have been chosen to be private. If it wasn't that serious, he wouldn't delete his account. There could be personal playlist etc in there,who knows if he had something very personal for HIM there and you guys just ruined it :(
You honestly can not call yourself a “fan” after doing this kind of damage to the person you adored. You may say it is not deep but put yourself in his shoes… it’s uncomfortable being stalked, now we all have to face the consequences of not being trusted by them, I hope Jay will feel better and heal. Mind your business for once y’all are really annoying.
I never heard about this situation but , fans prolly just found his Spotify acc and followed it.. it’s not like his address was on there- and plus.. the company prolly made him delete the Spotify acc because of all the commotion… he prolly doesn’t even trusts engenes because they do things like that. Stalk and make videos saying untrue stuff.
Some people are toxic but let them be haters if this is what you like to see, idols uncomfortable and insecure then go ahead and hate but if you love idols don’t make them feel bad.
I can’t imagine how it feels to deleted your Spotify account!!! I LITREALLY hate forgetting the password all the time but this…I would literally cry and throw hands
Bro For now on don’t be even calling yourselves or consider as K-pop fans if you be acting like this with your idols which they don’t know they get uncomfortable! Like y’all are sick!!! Honestly! Y’all think you guys will have chances with them? Just wait in the future when they have someone already! Because honestly y’all make me sick and annoyed! For toxic, saesangs, rude fans who likes to this this to their own idol get a life! And grow up! You have a future ahead of you! 😐
Sharing your playlist on Spotify to anyone is a thing that everyone should know, most kpop artists have their own playlists too but i can already tell that he felt uncomfortable with the lots of attention he's receiving even from his fans. I would too so it's understandable. Everyone should know to not over praise a person, the hard stans are getting out of hands. It's either he regrets sharing it or someone told him to for some reason.
these toxic fans are making our fav idols lose trust in us. jay shared his playlist trusting us and these toxic things broke his trust. is it that hard to keep your bad intentions to yourself. why do these ppl even exist. my bias is heeseung but I love jay a lot so when I saw this I felt too bad for jay and had thought of murdering these toxic things. jay didn't deserve it . they keep on doing all these to jay as if always making fun of him and creating a humiliating and awkward situation for him wasn't enough. these toxic fans don't deserve to be an engene.
Wait, it’s just a Spotify playlist, people may be interested in what type of music he listens to, I slightly understand the privacy part of all of this, but I don’t understand why everyone is freaking out
gross how some people actually think that being an obsessive fan isn't being toxic... Like... this is one of the sickest things ever... Stop trying to justify it. Disgusting
This is really bad like imagine what he could have tought about the enegens like whoever did that is really not a enegens like you could literally see the trustnees from his eyes when he showed it to the screen imagine how it have been after the live ended and he met up whit the members like jay was trusting all of the enegens so much like which toxic fan does that i feel really bad for him like bieng idol is not easy like you could go through things like this
I'm a fan that respect idols business now I'm just a fan the word fan has a meaning we should care for them but don't do anything to hurt them or make them mad cause what if he or any idol get scolded or treated differently cause of how y'all do them. It ain't cool and it's not funny. Period
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Some Fans nowday was so toxic that actually make their Idol uncomfortable.
Fr it’s really hard being a idol:/
@@mateoel9380 your mom
@@mateoel9380 what bts has to do with this💀
Exactly
Hey im your 1k liker :))
Can we stop calling those stalkers, engene? I don’t want our fandom name associated with that kind of behavior. Real fans don’t do that. Real engene respect our artists. So they are not real engene and don’t deserve to have any connection to our fandom name.
My point exactly✨
I Agree I hate those kind of people
Yeah, an engine wouldn't do that, but a stalker for sure and we don't want to be associated with such disgusting people
Truee
this is unfortunately the "no true scotsman" fallacy. you need to accept that some people who are fans are desperate enough to be noticed that they'll cross boundaries they shouldn't. it dosent do you any favors to claim those people arent "real fans" when they are, and they are out there doing things like that. it's frustrating to be associated with such people who don't align with our own morals, but it's the responsibility you take on when you call yourself as part of a fanbase, you learn that you cannot control the other people and saying anyone who does something that's unhealthy towards the idol "isn't actually a fan" just isn't true and makes it obvious you just want to distance yourself instead of promoting better boundaries in the community itself.
He literally just wanted to share his Spotify wrapped with us, as is tradition with Spotify listeners at this point, and you toxic fans had to ruin it. Don't even consider yourself Engene if you did this or do anything to make idols uncomfortable. A true fan wouldn't do shit like this. Get a life and let idols be human. Leave them alone.
stop dramatising shit.Theres nothing that can be done with Spotify account to infringe one's privacy
@@erikascencen so you're ok with people stalking their idols as long as people don't interact with them?
Btw, you definitely can find and follow someone's account from a playlist name that's not private. And that clearly made Jay uncomfortable. Again, comes back to DONT FUCKING DO SHIT TO MAKE YOUR IDOL UNCOMFORTABLE! Foh if you're gunna defend this disgusting behavior.
@@erikascencen thats not the point the point is some weirdos decided to stalk his account and make him feel uncomfortable
True
Y’all are being so dramatic lmao all they did was check his songs and follow his acc 💀💀💀
jungwon " engene's won't do this "
proceed to stalk , make our jay delete his Spotify account 😃👍.
Edit : for more details.
Jay did a live yesterday on weverse, everything was going fine until he showed us his Spotify wrapped. He without any doubt showed it on the screen, few hrs later some engene's stalked his playlist which apparently was not private, they followed his account and man that made jay uncomfortable and he deleted his Spotify account 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
you all crossing the boundaries so easily.
it's disrespectful, imagine the trust issues he would have with us now ?
😐... those engene's shouldn't even count themselves as a part of the fandom.
"It's just an account" people like you normalise stalking and making someone uncomfortable. He didn't liked it, he didn't approved us to follow his account. "He asked for it "
no he didn't, you all giving me creepy vibe like you seriously normalise stalking at this point? and blame the victim in this case ?
This ain't a over dramatic thing.
it's about trust and privacy.
once you broke the trust , he ain't gaining that back easily.
Edit : lmao thanks for 200k views and the people who watched and commented my video being over dramatic;) and me being sensitive.
love you it motivates me saur much more :3
edit : Removing all the comments who drag down sunoo and jay and mention jay as a freaking bully,u all don't even know the freaking details about the boy nor do u know them personally stfu , "he bullied sunoo" no he didn't just knowing the content from the title regarding the issue, u ain't got the right to talk shit about my boys . if u think I am being childish and sensitive ok got no problem but i will protect them in all the cost
I feel soo bad for him :(
Literally! i dont get what its about saesangs and other toxic engenes:(
they sometimes cross their limit
This is so sad, he trusted us and showed it.. whoever did it they shouldn't be called an engene:(
This honestly makes me want to bawl my eyes out, Jay trusted them, he trusted engenes and them people just took advantage of it and they act like its fine the have done nothing. Some engenes think they can do what ever they want and get away with it, how pathetic…
thats sad.. but we real engenes, we know our boundaries when it comes to this boys..
we need to understand too, saesangs are there left and right. as well as toxic people.. sigh..
on the screen, there is jay's playlist that he created himself and its not private. so some fans went on searching for that playlist name and from there, they know who is the playlist owner, which is jay and proceed to followed him
and? yall acting like they leaked his phone number,home address and his mom's underwear shots
That's it? That doesn't seem like a big deal at all
@@unknown_8588 yeah, but that makes jay deleted his account bcs he felt uncomfortable with ppl mass following him. thats why ppl are mad to those that stalked his spotify acc
@@unknown_8588 but isn’t it strange how they literally just stalk and found jay’s secret account.? i mean I know it’s just a music account but those “fans” probably knew jay made that account secret so no one could stalk him and those “fans” betrayed his trust by stalking and finding his account.
Y'all over react alot
Some people take things too far and for him to trust us enough to do that I can already tell the frustration he must be feeling
Agree every time an idol reveals something important about themselves Of Course Creeps And Stalkers Come At Them I'm humiliated Embarrassed And Disgusted At This World Each Day I Lose Hope For Life Every Single Day Because I See These Horrible Disgusting Humiliating And Embarrassing Toxic People Who Are Apart Of This World And Call Themselves Fans
@@Hesperia-_the_-loner Exactly and they have the audacity to call themselves part of engene
A playlist reflects the person's all the emotional sides , even I am not open up to let someone check my playlist even if they are close to me. Everyone has their own privacy and we should respect it ,because their personal space is their personal space not yours.
I feel bad for Jay some people really don't understand. A friend of mine once keep on insisting to see playlist by saying "I won't Judge, who cares" even after I keep explaining that why it makes me uncomfortable and when I finally clearly said "NO" her mood went off 🙄.
A playlist that reflects one self is build gradually while exploring the music, I hope Jay would be able to make soon🤍
Why is Jay and Jake always so underrated?They deserve better.❤
You know sometimes it's humiliating to say I am a part of this fandom. Not saying I hate Enhypen, I don't have anything against them. But the fans, the fans are what makes me feel embarrassed to call myself as an engene. This does happen in a lot of other fandoms too as I also may feel the same to some other groups. Like at this point your taking it to far like your not even earning anything out of it except the idol feeling uncomfortable and upset and hurt. I'm nit just talking about this I'm talking about every single time hate has happened. At this point I feel like the idols don't like us at all because this all gets tiring and annoying but also hurts them too. Both physically and mentally. To be honest I would have felt all this too of I were him.
Yeah I Agree It's Just So Humiliating For Them To Say That They Are A Fan Of Him and Compared To Us Actually Fans It's Embarrassing And Humiliating For Them To Say That There Fans Of Him
And just being compared to them is disgusting Humiliating and embarrassing I'm honestly giving up on this world each day because all I see are toxic people ruining it
They are not real engines though they are just creeps and stalkers
@@stshrthsrtxrthxrhynhfxhjghjxfx yes I know but I'm saying that it's disgusting being compared to them
…. It’s literally Spotify, what is there to even “stalk”. If he didn’t wanna share his playlists he could just private them lol
im an engene but yall other engenes are too much.They trust us alot and some fans make their idols uncomfortable.If you stalk them or do something thats really bad dont call your self a fan
I agree with you I lose hope every day because of these toxic people who call themselves Fans it's embarrassing Humiliating and disgusting for them to say that
jay is too precious for this cruel world.
Literally the sweetest human ever :(
To think that he had to delete something that potentially brought him comfort in a world full of stress because of some of us absolutely breaks my heart! 😢 He trusted us and we just turned around and spat in his face! I genuinely believe that he is one of the sweetest people on camera and off. He doesn’t deserve this; I genuinely believe that Jay is too pure for this world. 😭
YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE AN GOOD ENGENE!
IF YOU DO THIS TO OTHER MEMBER,THEY WON'T TRUST US ANYMORE!
it's so upsetting because he trusted us enough to share a piece of his life but toxic engene decided to cross the line and ruin everything :( and the fact that after that whole thing he still decided to interact with us to talk about the final world cup through weverse, bc if it was me I would be so upset and mad but no he's not :( we really don't deserve him
When I was watching this live my first thought was cool he has premium noyce
Y'all really know how to turn a mole hill into a mountain
I mean what did people expect. Fans do way worse than this. this is the bare minimum of actual stalking
Bro wth- Jay literally deserves way better than that!!
I barely see him smile nowadays...
I rlly don't know what is going on with people right now..
Music can be really really personal to people. This is so sad he can't share things with his fans without yall ruining it for him.
this proves that in this world u can't trust anyone:(
sorry Jay;
we really don't deserve u:(💔
“Not all idols deserve fans, not all fans deserve idols”
-Me
HE TRUSTED US
Not anymore…
Jangan sering ngelewatin batas guys, bikin idolnya nyaman sm kita juga. Jd inget fandom yg pd ganti ava twt warna indigo biar akun idolnya gak ke lacak, sama yg nyuruh hapus postingan idolnya karna ada nama hotelnya dan spread info buat gak nyebarin. Semoga gak ada kejadian gini lg, mereka sm aja kek kita orang biasa yg butuh privasi
He trusted us and some people really went and stalked his Spotify 😔 I feel so bad for him. Trust isn’t gained easily and engene’s that do things like this brake the trust they have with us. 😭
They don't deserve hate and i will always support kpop idols ❤
Poor jay he deserves so much better
I can’t imagine how uncomfortable he must have felt, engene’s should know that there are limits so don’t cross them in they shouldn’t cross any of those limits with other idols(my english isn’t good sorry😅)
I want to give him a tight hug 😢
A lot of kpop fans consider stalking as a normal thing which is really creepy and disgusting, engenes we shouldn't be like those fans who make their idols uncomfortable with their actions and behaviour,they trust us a lot and as a engene we should see that has a honour instead taking their kindness for granted. I hope these kind of things will not happen in our fandom.
noo do you know how much effort people put to make their Playlist oh gosh i can't believe this😭😱😡
yes so true
Honestly it's sad to know he had to delete his account
@@doovalywells5907 seriously people are so cruel
I'm glad people are speaking up against this, I don't think this she be normalized.
I followed his Spotify account and listened to his playlist, his songs were so good. but then, one day I was supposed to listen to his awesome songs, but his acc was gone... his playlist had the best songs. I never told anyone about his playlist. I can't believe "fans" think they're cool for stalking idols
Don't address toxic people as a fan just called them toxic people they don't deserve to be called fan .....
Bro i literally hate myself for that, even though it wasn’t even me and i wasn’t present during the live, it just makes me sad how people can do these things but get angry when someone does it to them, like if your going to stan a group than do something like this you are going to have to face the consequences for your actions! jay did nothing to deserve this kind of thing, he was just trying to hate his Spotify playlists with us so we can see what music he listens to and people decide to do this, you make me sick
That’s so sad .
it’s sad how an idol wants to genuinely share something with their fans and some people who call themselves fans turn it into something horrible , i hope he gets comfort for this situation , true fans would respect his decision to show us
Some fans should understand that the idols are actually humans like us so let them live happy
Please let people live their lives 🥺🙌
im literally probably one of the only ones that is on both sides bc Jay was uncomfortable that they stalked his account or whatever you wanna say other than stalk and he had to delete his account that’s really the only problems cuz it’s not that big of a deal bc all u can really do is follow the person and look at the music they listen to so yah
Por desgracia hay mucha gente toxica q no sabe donde están los límites. Ánimo Jay. Estamos contigo ❤️❤️❤️❤️
They truly don’t deserve Jay. They can’t even give him HIS OWN PRIVACY. It’s so disappointing, disrespectful, and sad. 😑😑😢
The one thing idols get to learn really fast is don't trust fans HAHA. Love turns quickly into obsession within the K-pop community.
I feel so sorry for him. I’m not fully an engene yet but man I feel bad that some of us did that 🥺 I really hope people well act better
I have always wished for ENHYPEN to be comfortable with ENGENEs to the point where they can talk about anything without getting hated on or whatever just like how Bang Chan trusts Stays or like TXT's relationship with MOAs but how can that be possible when he only shared his Spotify wrapped and he's account got stalked
I missed his live n didn't even know he shared it but I'm disappointed by the people who did this... he seriously trusted us n thought to share it. I can feel his frustration abt it.. plz stop it now💔 I feel so sorry for Jay
This hurts so much.
bro just wanted to listen to some tunes 😭 seeing his spotify wrapped wasn’t enough for yall????
Some people are such creeps makes me sad no wonder idols cant trust fans its horrible they deserve privacy
damn k pop is going crazy nowadays like please dont obsess too much an stalk them like tf is wrong with u ? i feel so sorry for jay !
why are people like this. why can’t we all just get along and be kind to one another instead of stalking someone to the point where they have to get rid of something they liked. if you stalked him you should be ashamed of yourself.
did it just recently happened?? now I understand why so many idols leave their groups .... 💔
Sometimes “engenes” suck sometimes i really just wanna hug the guys and tell them not to worry only true engenes will respect them
Let's be a normal fan guys they are making us happy why can't we also do that for them by not being a creepy fan.
F those Toxic Saesangs He Frickin trusted us HOW CAN HE GAIN IT BACK!?!! Just cuz of these people he'll lose TRUST IN US JUST BECAUSE OF THESE TOXIC HATERS if y'all hate them why are y'all so SERIOUS about it just LET THEM GO
Do you even know the feeling of deleting your Spotify account??!!!! Your musical memories over YEARS just flow away like that
At this point i dont know what to do or say i'm feeling ashamed to call my self an engene (some are good but most engenes are toxic)
I agree....
It's not that deep.
@@supercoolfirstnamesupercoo4510 thinking back at it you're right but when i writed this comment i had a really horriable day and this didn't made it any better. And somedays latter i understanded that being sad for this is really....i dont know but jay is famous and ofc some fans will stalk his account either if they had bad intentions or good ones so yeah its not that deep
@@ridwaan_ yeah i was too
@@Hesperia-_the_-loner besties let's say then😉
Sorry, Jay. Sorry for those Saesaengs. I feel I have to do this because we’re from the same fandom…
They did him dirty. Me personally I would never do that to anyone, even someone I hate, I actually saw it but I didn’t do anything.
Why would anyone do that to someone like him?! ❤️❤️❤️❤️😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😭😭😭😭😭
He just wanted to share something he liked with us.. why do some people think it's okay to treat him like a character to interact with, rather than a living person..? He is not a toy, and he's not anyone's entertainment. He's an artist and a human being just like everyone else.. These things are not okay.
i Feel Bad for Jay :( i cant believe they done This to Him Its really getting way to far to much he must be uncomforable and upset about it
Never been happier I don't have Spotify- but seriously Jay didn't deserve that, no one ever deserves to be treated that way it's not fun or nice to have to deal with stalking and invasion of your privacy? Like they singlehandedly took something away from him that he loved without a second thought and think they have a right to defend themselves when they don't
To delete a Spotify account sucks. That’s like deleting a TH-cam account you’ve had for years and losing all the songs you’ve discovered over time, losing all your podcasts, your playlists… everything. :/
know your limits as a fan.
When I saw this video my hurt really hurted so bad like I feel the pain of the betrayal
Now jay don't trust us anymore they abuse the too much kind of the idols 😔😔😠
The boy just wanted to listen to some music
Why are we still calling them fans or engenes? It's clearly they are not engenes. Making your idols or any idols UNcomfortable isnt profitable for people calling themselves a fan of the certain person.
Man, I would've loved to see his favorite songs that he shared and his top artists to see if I had any similar or I don't know found someone else to listen to??...some people have zero chill.
It’s very possible he also just made his playlists and account private but it is incredibly disturbing how such a little thing can be taken from idols just because “fans” don’t respect boundaries
"It's just an acc tho"
Yeah like it's just one cigarette
To the ones saying we bekng dramatic, like dude, it is still his account, it could have been chosen to be private. If it wasn't that serious, he wouldn't delete his account. There could be personal playlist etc in there,who knows if he had something very personal for HIM there and you guys just ruined it :(
This is so sad to see. I wish fans would respect all idol's privacy. Like can't they all just be healthy and supportive fans instead of toxic fans
Oh wow it seems that he listens to a lot of zayn, an underrated rnb legend❤️
This is why i hate engenes who always stalk their acc,please respect their privacy,i'm so disappointed of engenes who leaked his acc
idk it’s always jay going through all this shit 🥹😭😭🤍plz world be little kinder to him
I don't dare to say that is an Engene
You honestly can not call yourself a “fan” after doing this kind of damage to the person you adored. You may say it is not deep but put yourself in his shoes… it’s uncomfortable being stalked, now we all have to face the consequences of not being trusted by them, I hope Jay will feel better and heal. Mind your business for once y’all are really annoying.
I never heard about this situation but , fans prolly just found his Spotify acc and followed it.. it’s not like his address was on there- and plus.. the company prolly made him delete the Spotify acc because of all the
commotion… he prolly doesn’t even trusts engenes because they do things like that. Stalk and make videos saying untrue stuff.
Coitado do Jay, ele não merece passar por nada de ruim, nenhum dos meninos.
Some people are toxic but let them be haters if this is what you like to see, idols uncomfortable and insecure then go ahead and hate but if you love idols don’t make them feel bad.
Please support them don't be toxic 🙏🏻
I can’t imagine how it feels to deleted your Spotify account!!! I LITREALLY hate forgetting the password all the time but this…I would literally cry and throw hands
I feel so bad for him
He's just a human ,isn't he 😶😥
I don't know what to say anymore about them anymore..
Bro For now on don’t be even calling yourselves or consider as K-pop fans if you be acting like this with your idols which they don’t know they get uncomfortable! Like y’all are sick!!! Honestly! Y’all think you guys will have chances with them? Just wait in the future when they have someone already! Because honestly y’all make me sick and annoyed! For toxic, saesangs, rude fans who likes to this this to their own idol get a life! And grow up! You have a future ahead of you! 😐
Sharing your playlist on Spotify to anyone is a thing that everyone should know, most kpop artists have their own playlists too but i can already tell that he felt uncomfortable with the lots of attention he's receiving even from his fans. I would too so it's understandable. Everyone should know to not over praise a person, the hard stans are getting out of hands. It's either he regrets sharing it or someone told him to for some reason.
these toxic fans are making our fav idols lose trust in us. jay shared his playlist trusting us and these toxic things broke his trust. is it that hard to keep your bad intentions to yourself. why do these ppl even exist. my bias is heeseung but I love jay a lot so when I saw this I felt too bad for jay and had thought of murdering these toxic things. jay didn't deserve it . they keep on doing all these to jay as if always making fun of him and creating a humiliating and awkward situation for him wasn't enough. these toxic fans don't deserve to be an engene.
YOOO I DON'T REALLY WATCH ENHYPEN BUT YUURI, ONE OK ROCK AND OFFICIAL DANDISM?? THE TASTE IS IMMACULATE HOLYYY
i don't really know spotify so i don't understand how they can "stalk" the music to the point he deletes his acc. can someone explain ?
Wait, it’s just a Spotify playlist, people may be interested in what type of music he listens to, I slightly understand the privacy part of all of this, but I don’t understand why everyone is freaking out
Because that made him uncomfortable,and he had to delete it.
@@enhypen_fan_10 oh alright I guess
I feel like there might be few artists he wanted hear in private and also follow them(in spotify) and you can't really hide or privatize that..
Noo I feel so bad for him!! 😭
gross how some people actually think that being an obsessive fan isn't being toxic... Like... this is one of the sickest things ever... Stop trying to justify it. Disgusting
This is really bad like imagine what he could have tought about the enegens like whoever did that is really not a enegens like you could literally see the trustnees from his eyes when he showed it to the screen imagine how it have been after the live ended and he met up whit the members like jay was trusting all of the enegens so much like which toxic fan does that i feel really bad for him like bieng idol is not easy like you could go through things like this
Why army's,blinks,engene, and more is crossing the rules if there favorite bands😶.......why is everyone crossing the rules? 😶
I'm a fan that respect idols business now I'm just a fan the word fan has a meaning we should care for them but don't do anything to hurt them or make them mad cause what if he or any idol get scolded or treated differently cause of how y'all do them. It ain't cool and it's not funny. Period
I just wanna see his Spotify wrap I can’t see it in the video
Poor Jay. He didn’t do anything wrong! The fact the he trusted us too. And they cause that so he had to delete it. I feel bad. I would hate that.
I hate that they did that to him but I'm sorry I love him a lil more now that I know he likes one on rock 😭 literally one of my favorite groups
pov: u just found this out