Are Chinese Mosins lower quality?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- There are many misconceptions about Chinese firearms. Chinese SKS, AK47, Mosin, and Dragunov pattern rifles are actually extremely nice! Chinese Type 53 carbines in particular are super nice, I hope you get to check one out soon! If you have any prayer requests, or any mosin nagant questions, please don't hesitate to send me an email!
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Chinese sks rifles are good..had a chinese mosin, was rough but it worked.
That was refreshing to hear. I've had to explain exactly what you just did to alot of ppl I've talked to or coworkers, friends etc. I love your vids. Very informative and enjoyable cuz I love to learn all the nerdy details lol
I wish there was a country that made a Mosin with a chrome lined barrel. Now that would be a quality rifle.
Molot Oruzhie (Russia) made chrome lined barrel for mosins.
Thanks for the video Big Sam! Any future plans to cover the history, markings, and other cool facts about the Chinese Type 53?
My first Mosin was a bring back Type 53 at the recommendation from my son. We've put over 600 rounds through it & the barrel is in fantastic condition, shoots straight, and gets looks at the range because she's so loud! It has a great fireball too 😂 The only complaint is the recoil, but a buttpad fixed the bruised shoulder problem.
I own several Mosins from several countries (Russian, Polish, and Chinese). Condition seems to be the most important factor rather than country of origin.
Have one and shoots superb , and was a Vietnam bring back,Chinese 1955, brought back by a friend in 1973
Have a Russian M44 and a Type 53. Both well used, with frosty bores, but plenty of rifling left. Both shoot well, and both surprise whoever shoots them with their accuracy. Not going to say they are modern rifle/match ammo accurate, but more than battle accurate at the distances I shoot. Very happy with them both.
Mine works great! Number matches. Paid 17 dollars. Employees bought a case.
Great video, thank you for sharing this information.
Big Sam, Really enjoyed your background music (wind chimes).
Living in South Dakota? That landscape is amazing.
I got 4 of these back when Bud's had them for 110 bucks. They were beat to heck but all had nice bores and smooth actions (for a Mosin)
Whether it's a Tokarev, Mosin, or SKS, I have seen nothing in owning several of each to tell me quality was any lower.
The machine work on my Chinese Mosins is a step above several of my Russian Mosins, especially wartime Russian Mosins.
Have you considered doing a dedicated video on all the sling variations for mosins I thought about this while trying to find a true type 53 sling and not just a modern M91/30 sling made in China
The real answer to your question is Yes and No.
Being produced to essentially the post war M44 specifications and with interchangeability in mind their fit and function is comparable to any post war M44 with similar ware.
However, they did cheap out on two things.
First is the stock, the Yew wood they used is relatively speaking very soft for it's use. It was locally available and thus cost effective, but is also why most of the stocks look like a beaver has chewed on them. Second is the surface finish on the barrel. At a glance it looks the same as a standard M44, but removing the upper handguard tells another story. Typically entire section of the barrel under the hand guard is still rough machined. Functionally shouldn't be an issue.... Except, it also made for a great place to collect moisture, and thus rust. It is very common to find the tops of the barrels substantially pitted, some times even to unsafe levels, even is the rest of the rest of the rifles metal is in fantastic condition.
Every Chinese mosin I’ve seen looks like it got buried in the jungle in Vietnam for 2 months and was cleaned off with wd-40 and thrown off a moving truck, but they always were good shooters.
I never thought the Chinese Mosins were poor quality but they are ALWAYS beat to hell and back. I remember seeing one at a Big 5 Sporting Goods for 90 bucks
Justin Bryan...I haven't seen you since we worked together at Jimmy's Egg... How you been man?
Copy that.. next purchase I’ll make will be a Chinese M44. Thanks for the info Big Sam! God Bless!
i have one. a 53 production yr model. after rebuilding and head spacing with a barrel. major trigger work. its action is smooth. and it is 3 RD 3/4 inch at 100 with monarch academy brand ammo. Chinese Norinco and Polytech arms were top knotch. If one thinks other wise you are just ignorant and misinformed. Ive owned all models. I had a Norinco sks that i could hit bottle caps at 100 yards when i was 10 years old. So much misinfo. a real shame the clingons banned importation. all the stuff is now expensive and drying up. new shipments are beat up rusted out of spec crap. I used to pay 59.99 per NEW Norinco SKS. or less per crate. good times
Thanks Big Sam
I own a Type 53 in great condition with some great "tiger striping" on the stock. Supposedly, it is a Vietnam bring back. Is it uncommon for these to have "tiger striping"?
I have a 1937 Russian 91/30 and a 1955 Chinese type 53 carbine the Chinese one is definitely not as high quality as the 91/30 but it’s not horrible but definitely not as nice tooling the receiver looks like crap next too my 1937
I got a Chinese sks for 49 dollars 20 years ago and this have it got a ak47 to 350 bucks good deal .
I had a Soviet M44 in similar condition to your Chinese one, I believe it was part of a batch that came from… Cuba? Or was it Nicaragua? Or Grenada? Somewhere in that neighbourhood. I always liked that M44 better than my other Mosins, because it had real character.
Great vid! I agree
It seems the Chinese really use their rifles . The Type 53’s I have seen have been pretty well used . I have two Chinese made Mauser rifles , one has a shot out bore , the other one is fair . My Vz 24 Chinese contract rifle is fair , the Hanyang 88 is ok , so possibly because of all the use they went through makes it appear they are cheaply made
I’ve told people before, what benefit would it be to the country who makes and issues these rifles if they were low quality and dangerous? You want your troops to be able to fight, it would be backwards as fuck to give them rifles that weren’t hardened properly, made with crappy steel, and could potentially blow up.
I have a Chinese Factory /26\ SKS among others made in 1965, it probably cost under $100 bucks when it was imported into the US but by the time I ran across it still new in the box and unfired the price has gone up to $200. Mine has all milled parts and the fit and finish is impeccable and probably one of the nicest semi auto rifles I own, not to mention it’s a great shooter and very accurate. I also have two Mosins a 1945 round receiver Izhevsk in mint condition and a 1933 Tula HEX receiver in the same condition. I was lucky enough to get both at a time when prices were still great and nice examples were still around in quantity, I have less than $200 in both my Mosins.
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The irony is that the Chinese SKS is arguably more valuable than the Russian one. I love my type 56, and honestly made me rethink my stance on buying a Chinese mosin.
Where is the Chinese SKS more valuable than a Russian one? In both the US and Canada Russian SKS go for 30-40% more in my experience, even in worse condition
@@jon4139 really?? Just might be my specific location then because we don’t get many type 56 rifles. Hmm… I wonder if its because (I brought it to someone to inspect the barrel) it’s got something to do with “Norico”? The one I brought it to said something about that and that If the barrrel was damaged it would be far more expensive than the actual worth of the gun…
Love the video big Sam
Chynese guns seem to be made MUCH different than the garbage they send to us. Chynese ammo is great stuff also.
Normally those EX Military staff all have decent quality, no matter came from Communist Countries, pre war Japan, or from US, Germany, Finland and Sweden. Even some European or American made guns looks high quality from surface, but those communist guns’ parts quality aren’t bad either, even looks rougher than those western guns. Things are that those guns all made for military use and they have to be tough on battlefield, the failure of the guns means soldiers’ life lost and the government won’t stand for that. However, it’s the different stories for those commercial guns which real purpose is to make more profits out of them, they don’t care about shooters injury or death. So I will always choose an ex military guns over a commercial guns as long as the overall condition is good.
As far as doing things to improve the Mosin, I am seriously wanting to glass bed the receiver and make the barrel free floating. Iraqveteran8888 has some good instructional videos on these upgrades. Also, I have ordered the trigger spring kit from MCarbo which greatly improves the trigger function.
Chinese mosins are not of lower quality they are even betyer than finnish mosin
One guy named zhang taofang killed 300 american troops in less than 2 weeks using this beauty and only usimg his iron sights
The average type 53 Mosin you find is going to be more used than the Russian m44. Lower-quality FINDS but overall not a lower quality rifle.
One thing with Chinese toys for the most part their beat up way more than other countries.. be well.
My Type 53 (1954/12 date, Factory 296) is in very good condition. I've seen some that look like they've been in the jungle for 70 years. Mine still has 95%+ original bluing/finish. The stock is in great shape. There's some dings, but no gouges, splinters, chips, or splits. The bore is frosty and pitted, but shows strong rifling and still shoots well. I've never tested it for accuracy, but I had no problem hitting a steel plate at 100 yards while standing.
I agree with you when it comes to the fit and finish of Russian Mosins made during the war. The Type 53 is far better in those terms when compared to a 1944 M44.
The early Chinese sks/AK variants rival the quality of Russian made ones. The machining and metal quality are some of the best in the world.
Russia: Designed low cost, built to last
China: Designed low cost, built to throw away.
I guess the mosin and sks are Exceptions
i'd tend to disagree, in general Chinese military surplus seems to hold up just fine, and is of high quality - the problematic, cheap crap comes from China's products created for the international market, where their only purpose is to make money off of western consumers.
They are made in China! You already know the answer to that question…. JUNK!😂