Yes, but untill we are enlightened and free of this ego, this ego and guilt helps us not to perpetrate things that might hurt not only us, but others too. And I do not mean a fear of any god, but this inner voice that tells us whats wrong.
Tibetans do not have a word or feeling in their language that equates to the English word Guilt. At a Mind and Life meeting, the word Guilt was used, and the Dalai Lama didn't understand it. He looked to his translator and was shocked to learn that we Westerners could feel that way. The closest is the word Regret, having done something, or not, that we wish we hadn't done. Regret, we can deal with through Purification practise.
Its interesting and wise. But still I think the kind of guilt this lady describes is not all that guilt is. I think it is possible to have a generally good or at least neutral attitude towards oneself, and still feel guilty for some deeds you might have done. For instance I do not sit in a hole of guilt, but still feel not only regret but shame for aborting a child (before I understood the deeper meaning of it) or a few similiar things. I have no religious upbringing whatsoever. But even without the image of a punishong godshead above me, I feel I have done something against some higher laws and I do not see any easy way how to let it go.
Whilst I agree with most of what she says, I think the statements about the role of guilt in other religions are over-generalised. I would say that Christianity speaks of a collective sinfulness, not a mere individual one, that is designed to unite people to improve themselves and follow a spiritual path. After all, Buddhism also speaks of the inherent susceptability of every individual to selfishness and negative actions (sin, if you will), and this is also a way of reducing the self to something much smaller than it appears to be.
Genuine question - about the "jewish guilt". There is this conception of "egregor", which is something like a collective conscioussnes of a specific societies, nations, religious groups. In this understanding the jewish egregor would have to be one of the most potent ones. Under this theory there might be we "are responsible" for things we have not perpetrated directly, but are inherent to our group - for better or worse. At least as long as one identifies as jew, identifies with this specific group. Its not about blaming jews from outside, its about that jewish gult you speak about. So I think as long as we identify with a group, its egregor has power over our understanding. I believe not everybody is spiritualy mature enough to step out of this paradigma and beginn practising dharma, and there are possibly no easy solutions.
Waw, guilt as self-centerness and attachment to an "ego" ("me, me, me") and not auspicious to Dharma and Illumination. THANX!
Yes, but untill we are enlightened and free of this ego, this ego and guilt helps us not to perpetrate things that might hurt not only us, but others too. And I do not mean a fear of any god, but this inner voice that tells us whats wrong.
Tibetans do not have a word or feeling in their language that equates to the English word Guilt. At a Mind and Life meeting, the word Guilt was used, and the Dalai Lama didn't understand it. He looked to his translator and was shocked to learn that we Westerners could feel that way. The closest is the word Regret, having done something, or not, that we wish we hadn't done. Regret, we can deal with through Purification practise.
I never looked at it in that way
This is so true! And helpful ..thank you
This woman is full of wisdom. Thanks for sharing it with us. 🙏💞🙏💞🙏💞
Its interesting and wise.
But still I think the kind of guilt this lady describes is not all that guilt is.
I think it is possible to have a generally good or at least neutral attitude towards oneself, and still feel guilty for some deeds you might have done.
For instance I do not sit in a hole of guilt, but still feel not only regret but shame for aborting a child (before I understood the deeper meaning of it) or a few similiar things. I have no religious upbringing whatsoever. But even without the image of a punishong godshead above me, I feel I have done something against some higher laws and I do not see any easy way how to let it go.
We have to forgive ourselves. I know it’s hard to do, but you deserve mercy.
I wonder why there are only three groups? I didn't grow up with any of those three which made it hard for me to understand this.
Whilst I agree with most of what she says, I think the statements about the role of guilt in other religions are over-generalised. I would say that Christianity speaks of a collective sinfulness, not a mere individual one, that is designed to unite people to improve themselves and follow a spiritual path. After all, Buddhism also speaks of the inherent susceptability of every individual to selfishness and negative actions (sin, if you will), and this is also a way of reducing the self to something much smaller than it appears to be.
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the different religions are basically guilt with different holidays...
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Genuine question - about the "jewish guilt". There is this conception of "egregor", which is something like a collective conscioussnes of a specific societies, nations, religious groups. In this understanding the jewish egregor would have to be one of the most potent ones. Under this theory there might be we "are responsible" for things we have not perpetrated directly, but are inherent to our group - for better or worse. At least as long as one identifies as jew, identifies with this specific group. Its not about blaming jews from outside, its about that jewish gult you speak about.
So I think as long as we identify with a group, its egregor has power over our understanding.
I believe not everybody is spiritualy mature enough to step out of this paradigma and beginn practising dharma, and there are possibly no easy solutions.