I carry revolvers exclusively for one specific reason... you can say all you want about situational awareness, but the cold fact of the matter is, that the bad guy gets to decide where and when... he gets to make the first move. That can, and does at times mean close if not immediate contact BEFORE you get to draw... A revolver can be fired from any hand/wrist/arm position, it cannot be limp wristed. It also cannot be "out of battery" due to being grabbed or having the muzzle come in contact with the target. Now... if I were "going to war" or a gunfight of my choosing (time/place), you bet your ass I'm going with a semi... probably a rifle.
100% , yeah if I know I'm getting into a gunfight, I'm bringing a rifle and some friends 😂 But, for day-to-day, depends what I'm doing. For long car rides, Glock 19 with extra mags. For walking around the neighborhood, maybe running to the store, I've got a snub .357.
Unfortunately most people don’t understand Situational Awareness. It is your first line of defense. Some of the comments I’ve read underscore that very succinctly. Be safe…be vigilant. Cheers!
"It also cannot be "out of battery" due to being grabbed". Now that's just not true - grab a revolver in a way that blocks the cylinder from spinning and it is just as much "out of battery" as a pistol.
@@judgesfiveeight honestly, not really - I was really surprised by how light of a grip is enough to stop the cylinder spin. That said, I do carry a .44 629 revolver myself, so by no means is my comment an inditement of revolver carry. I guess my point is there's no such a thing as a reliable gun unless you train with it, and do it a lot.
I always like your honest and straight forward reviews, I recently switched from carrying my semi auto 9MM to a S&W 640 Pro 357 magnum revolver and I find it's more flexible being I wear shorts and light clothing a lot here in the sunshine state. It fits in my pocket or on my hip and I find I shoot the 640 better at 10 yards. I am 68 and know many law active and retired enforcement who say the same thing, go to a range and practice regularly with your EDC, god forbid one day you find yourself in a life and death situation and you have to use you weapon, I don't care if you have 5 or 15 rounds, if you can't hit what you aiming at, your dead, plain and simple.
You need to be able to draw and fire with one hand in case you are defending yourself with the other. To me a revolver in a pocket carry holster makes the most sense.
I see the merit in both designs. I mostly pocket carry my 5 shot S&W 442 snub nose in 38 special +p because it is convenient. I do enjoy shooting my S&W M&P M2.0 compact and full-size pistols as well. It’s hard to beat a j frame for a pocket gun. The P365 would still be just a little too big and heavy for that role. I definitely trust the reliability of a j frame over a micro 380 as well
Agreed. I do carry semi-autos as well as revolvers. The main reason I end up with a revolver so much come down to comfort. It's just so easy to grab 2" smith and be on my way.
Excellent review...I'm a revolver guy primarily (Ruger lcr and Kimber K6s), but I do have a CZ Compact which I carry on occasion. During the pandemic, when revolver cartridges all but disappeared from store shelves, I acquired a couple of pistol cartridge chambered revolvers. I had several instances using Blazer brass pistol cartridges, when the bullets jumped the crimp and either fell right out of the cyclinder with the powder dribbling out or jammed up the works so bad, the cylinder wouldn't rotate. Here in Maine we have a duty to retreat, if possible, before using deadly force. If 6 rounds of .357 magnum can't solve your problem, you need to find a better neighborhood.
I agree with the tone of the video where it sounds like the choice really depends on the individual and their comfort and efficiency with a particular gun. I carry a Sig Sauer P365 XMacro. It shoots well for me, has fantastic capacity, and the slim profile conceals fairly easily in my IWB appendix carry holster. An additional reason is that I live in an urban environment, where recently (despite it being a very nice neighborhood) there have been a number of mugging/robbery occurrences involving a roving band of 10 or more degenerates. While situational awareness is the most important thing to have on your side (to quote John Correia from the Active Self Protection channel: "awareness buys you time, and time buys you options"), a good sidearm is a definite plus.
some thoughts to think about from sofa expert: 1. Holster. Carry guns issues, esp ccw when you lost your holster (s*it happens). Huge amount of guns are holster addictive for save handling. 2. Magazine lost issues (s*it happens again). Not every pistol is able to shoot when ammo feeded manually by hand into barrel using extraction hole and make a shot. Berreta 92FS is able (rumours -military requirement), glock w some risk to broke extractor forcing close slide. Many pistols cant close the slide at all. The right choice is somewhere between.
Never knew there was a debate. Let's see a revolver never has a stove pipe, never has double feed or failure to feed. Failures to fire in a revolver can be handled with one hand, no external safety to plug in, turn on and warm up nor accidentely re-set. What debate?
@@whitetiana3022 That's a silly debate. If you carry a firearm as part of your profession, sure, those things matter. If you're going to the store for a pack of smokes and a gallon of milk...exceedingly unlikely that is going to matter. I have both, revolvers, Glocks, AR, etc. I use them all for different tasks. I never feel undergunned, even when rolling hard with my 5 shot .357 snubby 🤟
For myself I carry a wheel gun. I trust the simplicity. When I pull the trigger it goes bang. No FTE, FTF, or stovepipes. I also believe in the Rule of 3 as well. This is just what makes me feel comfortable when I’m out and about. As an aside the most important first line of personal protection is a thorough understanding of Situational Awareness. BTW I did teach that long ago. Cheers!
I'm 50, utilize a cane for a bad hip. Some days, I cannot rack my mini-pistols. My Smith 38 hides and works without any more thought than point. I agree with any detractors, also. ...just me
It's hard to beat a modern revolver for comfort. They are a bit more difficult to shoot well though. Fortunately it is possible to practice with 22LR which is a good deal cheaper than 38/357.
Both have their advantages. IMO the biggest advantage of a revolver is that in close encounters of the violent kind the chances of the gun getting in an unfireable condition such as out of battery and much less chance of user induced malfunction due to non-optimal grip or injury to shooting hand or wrist. For carry my ideal would be a revolver primary and a moderate to compact DA/SA auto as backup in case I find myself in a war zone.
When I had a cash 'n carry business in a blue big city plantation ghetto the industry I was in was a favorite gangsta target and they operated in packs. So yes capacity was the ultimate consideration. But revolvers at least for the first shot(s), up to 5 or 6, are more instinctive and quicker to deploy with accuracy. Trade off of features and benefits. Any gun is better than none to deflect the attackers.
Good points. Though I seem to be missing something. All this talk about revolvers (not just here) being more comfortable over semi-autos, but no explanation as to why other than weight. As we know some semi-autos like Kahr are even lighter than air weight Smith and hold 6 rounds. But the revolver is still More comfortable than a semi-auto… Like I said I guess I missed it.
I like the way Stephen A Camp put it: In a life threatening situation, you are more likely to run out of time than ammunition (with a 5 shot revolver).
Isn't it also true that a revolver will fire even when pressed against the body of an attacker, whereas an automatic will not? I think the greatest probability of an "incident" is a mugging or carjacking, where the attacker is less than six feet away and physical contact may already be occurring. "Aiming" is no longer possible. You may even have to fire from inside a jacket pocket. I want a double-action revolver with a covered hammer. It is always ready. And five rounds is more than enough.
It’s also possible for someone to grip the cylinder of a revolver so it can’t turn. If a revolver’s cylinder can’t turn the gun can’t fire. Both a revolver and a semi-auto have that issue, just under different circumstances.
I used to carry a revolver & at one time a 57 chevy was a new car. You spoke about how You may not be able to clear a jammed round fast enough same goes for a reload what if you need 7?!! As for magazine malfunction that is why you carry 2. I carry M&P9+ or LCP MAX would much rather have 13&14 then 6 & reload!! Revolvers are great so was John Wayne & Clint Eastwood but there time has past!! The die hard revolver guys need to step into the 21st century and stop acting like Ostrich before they get what is sticking above ground shot off!!! Oh yeah any gun is subject to fail that is something you have no control over!!
I’m torn. I love both. Revolvers were good back in the day with the ol’ fashioned street corner mugging. Today the mobs are robbing you with rifles and such. More ammo may be necessary.
With the semi auto you can hit faster more bad guys because the trigger need less finger push than to a revolver, and you can have better accuracy than with revolvers. In a 9mm revolver you can put two blanks, or rubber or pepper bullets , its better if you can avoid to explain to a judge a murder in self defense.
Drop em both in the mud then see which one keeps goin and which one blows up because the timing was screwed up/cylinder didn't lock in correct position.
As a 75 y/o retiree that walks w/a cane a small, light revolver in a pocket holster is best for my situation. During my 30 yrs I was forced into more than one OIS w/my issued thirty-eight and it saved my life every time. We were issued Glock pistols during my last 10 years & while I was glad to be on even footing w/the bad guys, today’s orbits include the grocery store, doctor & lunch w/my retired police buddies. Everyone’s situation is different so pick what works best for you, practice often and don’t purposely go to sketchy neighborhoods.
I like my ruger sp101 5 shot 357 for carry most of the time, but sometimes I carry my glock27. I think it’s a good idea to own both a revolver and a semi auto.
Revolver: + no possibility of slide being taken out of battery due to pressing against bad guy + doesn't mind lack of rearward space to cycle (such as firing inside pocket) + failure to fire fixed by simply pulling trigger again + in some cases, user choice of DA/SA + no slide manipulation necessary + will not limp wrist + more ammo options, including wadcutters/snakeshot Auto: + higher capacity at equivalent size + greater sight radius at equal length + generally lighter at equivalent size + slimmer at the widest point (no cylinder) + superior bore axis (except rare designs like Chiappa Rhino) + capacity usually upgradable via magazines + allows offhand more purchase on frame, helping muzzle control + significantly faster reload, unless you're expert with a speedloader (and actually carry a speedloader) + bad guy can't grab cylinder to prevent function (grabbing slide will do the same, after 1 shot though) + in some cases, more options for mounts (lights/sights) + probably more resilient on average, to drops and damage, due to fewer moving parts + options for manual safety + many options for trigger, can go much lighter than revolver Those are the main ones off the top of my head. As for how to weigh the pluses and minuses, it will vary a lot by individual and what their goals are. For one person, one of these points might mean everything, and to another it means nothing. On average, autos have a lot of dimensional and capacity related advantages which can quickly add up to having "more gun", size for size, weight for weight and so on. But the traits of small revolvers are in some cases, especially suited for civilian CCW at very short distances.
With age comes wisdom. We find out what's reasonable. A five-shot snubby is easy to carry. Somewhat dummy proof as mode of operation. Training with a firearm becomes more and more difficult and expensive, self-defense is not target shooting, or shooting games or a what if proposition. Situational awareness out does a firearm until it doesn't, at that point you need a firearm that's dependable and easy. In my late 50s I have yet to have a confrontation where I needed a firearm, I doubt that will change. But just in case it would be prudent to carry a reasonable amount of protection and thus the five shot snubby will do
I'm a lefty. With autos, I have had brass in the face--kind of a pain. I like how I can use my left hand to load a revolver. Just something to consider.
I'm also a lefty and had never experienced that. My preference for autos is sig and smiths, and in a revolver it's almost always a Smith or Taylor&co for me
Yep, I'm a lefty too. When I use semi autos, the brass in the face is a problem. I had one shell casing fly back in my face between my cheek and glasses. It burned my cheek before I could get it out.
I use both revolver and semi-auto handguns. For concealed carry, I prefer a semi-auto. For open carry, I prefer a revolver. For home defense, I prefer the reliability and simplicity of a revolver. For ammo capacity, I prefer a semi-auto with 15 to 30 round magazines. For defense against black bears, feral hogs, and wild canines, I prefer a revolver. For fast reloading, I prefer semi-auto with multiple magazines or revolvers with multiple speed loaders. My personal favorite semi-auto is a 6-inch Heckler & Koch USP 45acp. My personal favorite revolver is a 6-inch Smith & Wesson 357 magnum.
The revolver is truly a semi-auto pistol. A " sem-auto" is really a one chamber single shot. Consider a first round dud or an empty chamber. Yep, one chamber single shot fail. Slap Jack and rack. BUUUUT with a five chamber revolver, no problem semi-automatically pull the trigger again, rolling in and sending a fresh one. That is why I carry a revolver. I shot a lot of IDPA matches and have personally witnessed many first round fails. Empty chambers and dud rounds. Revolvers are the only intuitive semi-autos in the world. If the firearm fails to fire,? You just pull the trigger again to fix it. NO ORHER FIREARM CAN DO THAT●
I carry a 642 around the home but in the City, I carry a semi-high cap. Part of that is the high volume of carjacking that happens in Chicago with multiple offenders.
We seem to be living in a great time for pistol development. Small light and high capacity pistols are abundant. I have some that work great. I also have some small lightweight and potent revolvers. Either can be used to get yourself home safely. Lately I've been enjoying the ease and simplicity of a pocket revolver. It will probably continue to work for me.
Ty . you pointed out one thing I wasn't thinking of when deciding what to carry on a particular day.ease of use under stress.ive been carrying a S&W 642 mostly in the summer now.and I feel good about my choice.
Excellent review. I carry my Glock 19 in the winter time and other times carry my Glock 43. I quite often also carry my Kimber K6. The only gun I carry outside the waistband in a leather holster is my K6. Super comfortable..
My feeling is if you like revolvers, carry a revolver. If you like semi autos, carry a semi auto. If you like both, carry both either at the same time or in a rotation. It's not that complicated.
Right, the main thing is "figure it out". A firearm is just a "lint collector" to many people. If the you figure out what works for you and carry that you'll feel more confident. Initially, I had to make myself carry because it was counter-intuitive but later I got comfortable resulting in my carrying at a much more frequent percentage of the time.
@@invictawarrior Lint collector. I like how you put that. Recently I’ve asked myself how I would use anything that I would buy associated with any of my hobbies. Being dollar fugal and more prudent. Can’t afford to waste going forward.
@@mr.browning7.624 No its more at the shooting range you don‘t have the mess on the floor when your session is over (at least I have to sweep them up at the range I go to). A revolver, you just tip the finished cartridges into a box, …tidier 😄😉
@@mr.browning7.624 not that anyone is planning a murder,..but should something not expected happen, well,..surely not having cartridges with your fingerprints on them left behind is better…
At 26:15 you mention that folks will question why you trust your life to a 38 revolver. Those same people trust their life to processed foods EVERY DAY! along with cigarettes, alchohol, fast food, etc. I always laugh at that.
I own both but I have to be honest. When seconds count and the pressure is on, my S&W 38 Spc Airweight is what I prefer. At home, on the nightstand, is my Glock G19. I actually want the intruder to hear me rack the slide and see the laser sight. Gives him a second chance to question his intent.
I owe a ruger revolvers 357 it was ok until I didn't like carrying too uncomfortable impractical then I got Taurus poly defender 3.8 my favorite gun to carry it a light revolvers with double action.. I owed a glock 9x19 years ago didn't like carrying it personally again uncomfortable need good holster....I never needed alot of shots for self defense cuz I trust my aim. I don't need to be a sharpshooter at 20 yard with it...growing up in "the city" everybody i know that got killed due to gun violence got killed at close range less then 9or10yards and it happened very fast less the 4 or 5 seconds. So a revolver I can pull it out faster shoot without thinking too much, is the gun cocked or not is the safety on or off..I don't Have to worry about magazine malfunctions I has a Glock go off on me as a kids I forgot to mention too I've had magazine fall out jam or malfunction at ranger but my revolvers shoots every time doesnt matter if it's covered in dust. Shotgun for home defense wooden ranch style mini 14 for ranch/ hunting I like love ❤️ the classic stuff.
If the rule of 3s is accurate there is a very possibility of a close range confrontation. If a malfunction occurs while an assailant has his hands or multiple hands on you a revolver will save your life. Because just pulling the trigger again often clears the problem.
untill you realise most modern semiautos rarly have jamming issues and also recolvers can jam if the round doesnt perciclyy fit. so if you take care of both guns, nether will jam, thats why i prefer semiauto, cause i can have 30 rounds instead of 6 or 8 and reloading doesnt take an eternity, unless you happen to have boonclips but thats still only 8 shots at most
I have a Ruger SP101 in .357 Magnum for winter carry, and a S&W 642 in .38 +P for summer carry. Both revolvers have Hogue grips and a Wilson combat spring kit. I carry a speed loader with both. Both are great for daily carry. The 642 is so light I hardly notice it's there! I can carry that gun 18 hours a day, all day, very comfortably. I think that is what really counts the most: what are you comfortable with? A particular gun might be great, but if you don't carry it with you every time you leave the house, it won't help you. I live in a state that is very restrictive on firearms and we can't have more than 10 round magazines. So, these large capacity semi-autos just aren't available here. And if you have to fire more than 5 or 6 shots in a defensive gunfight, you might get into trouble with the police. Like they say, the vast majority of gunfights are 3 rounds or less. I want something I know is reliable and will work every time and won't jam. I can also fire these revolvers one-handed and even with my weak hand. A semi-auto requires two hands to operate properly. Get into a grappling fight with a perp and I would much rather have a concealed hammer revolver in that fight. A semi-auto can be easily defeated by a perp who knows where to grab it.
6 shot carry revolver with medium/loose DA trigger pull, crisp short reset, and tons of target practice is the absolute best carry option unless you fantasise about taking out a whole street gang on your own. Id even go .22 12 shot no problem if yours good shot and fast. The MAIN REASON revolvers are better: chance of 1st shot malfunction = 0 (good ammo, decent quality gun, loaded prop)
revolvers can totally jam up lol sometimes the ports get deformed or some shit can happen to them. and you dont need to want to kill a whole gang to want 15-30 rounds. in a stressfull situation, you wont notice how facr you fire, and you wont hit every time so i rather not be caught without ammo or needing ro reload. and maybe there will be a situation were there are 2 or 3 attackers, i sure as hell dont want to be limited by bullets.
.357 Mags are one shot one kill with a well-placed round. That is why you don't need as many rounds. I have seen cops mag dump a 9mm and take a lot longer to stop the perp.
I normally carry my S&W M&P Shield.45 but I did recently purchase me a Taurus 605 .357 snub nose revolver. I must admit I absolutely love my new revolver & it’s very concealable in my leather holster. I now rotate between my S&W and my Taurus for EDC. Great video good information!!! Subscribed!👍👍
My Kimber K6 is my favorite revolver and my Kimber Pro Raptor ll 1911 in 45 acp is my favorite semi auto! But, My revolver leaves No brass evidence left behind!#settled
Had Rittenhouse been armed with a 45-70 lever gun. The result would have been as devastating, if not more, but the optics would have been different. The same optics would apply with an SD encounter with a Glock 17 vs a revolver.
Well let's see , never seen or had a revolver jam , you don't need a clip and with the other you have to have one unless you are into single shots so they are worthless without one. Not too many auto-loaders that are set up to shoot Magnum loads.. You don't throw brass all over the place with a wheel gun . They just feel better in your hand than a Simi-auto and will not fall apart like a Glock ( I have seen it happen so don't tell me it never happens ) or a Beretta . I worked at a barrel factory and Beretta bought all of our junk barrels...and on and on. A no brainer buy a revolver .
I think you have got it right on the. nail. The revolver is the simplest most reliable choice, because no matter how much training you have put in, no matter how much you reherse something, when it really counts you want to give yourself the best chance of achieving the end result, and when your life literally depends on it, you want the simplest, most assured path to sucsessfully end the threat in front of you. a With a semi, there are more moving parts, more places for a potential failure, and more chances for things to go wrong. You just have to spend some time watching police body cam videos to see people who train all the time in the use of their weapon, it's their job! Watch 10 videos and at least 3 of them there will be some sort of malfunction.
Now that I'm retired no more Glock 17. I strictly carry revolvers. Ruger SP 100 3 in 357 Magnum for concealed carry. A Taurus tracker model 627 six and a half inch 357 Magnum for home.
For me it’s always been about having bad shot/tough bad guy insurance. More rounds gives me more chances to hit a target if I make suboptimal shots under stress. Or if the bad guy can really eat up some rounds and keep going. I saw a video of a guard shooting a bank robber 6 times with a revolver and the robber still shot him cause the shots were not immediately incapacitating. I know this is an outlier case. But it’s something to consider. 12 rounds in a small handgun is great. I don’t think I necessarily need that many. I’m not paranoid. But it’s good to have more. I would feel safe with a revolver but I know theres less room for user error with only 6 rounds so that’s why I prefer autos.
I guess I'll chime in with my opinion... I like both semi-auto's and revolvers, but prefer a revolver. I will add that I absolutely hate optics on pistols. I know, I know... practice. I get it, but I still hate optics on pistols. More of a fad. Eventually all those pistol optics will be going into the drawer and folks will return to iron pistol sights. The same goes for the iron sight debate. Blacked out rear sight with white front sight, orange sights, finer optic sites, night sites... hear it all the time ..."gotta have night sights!". Here's some advice: You won't have much time to acquire your night sights, or optics at that range with a person that is determined to hurt you. Practice point shooting. Last thing to add. Red dots belong on rifles. That makes sense.
about a year ago I bought a PDP-C 4", phenomenal gun out of the box, have Zero reliability concerns for EDC, am having 2 issues and it comes down to the PDP, honestly being too big for My personal situation, Heavily looking into a revolver like LCRX (yes X, some days my hands need the ease of single action) or the Taurus 'Defender' series, Super basic mechanically, with upgraded sights and grips...and a 3" barrel, more accurate than a snubbie, more carriable than a 4" pistol sure to a point you get better quality at a higher price, but the Biggest LCRX is half the price of an M&P .38, and a Taurus Defender is as low as ⅓ the price. as a guy on a fixed income either one looks better than a $1300 gun held in lock-up for an investigation.
Been lately viewing news media clips of violence in NYC. One depicted a swarm lynching a victim in Times Square. Capacity would be advantageous but in that circumstance and place could an operator get off accurate shots without high risk of public endangerment ? Other incidents were 1 or 2 predators acting out, 'unarmed' or using autopistols. Maybe unseen lookouts and other gang members were present too, predators travel in packs. But revolvers are easier to get off initial shots and to use as cqb push off implements where autos would be of lesser utility. Having any gun is sometimes enough deterrent to discourage assailants.
Lots of females and elderly don't have the hand strength to rack slides and fumble around with magazines and such. A revolver is perfect for day to day self defense.
I just tried to buy that model Kimber the other day on auction since its extra lightweight *thumbsup* Wasnt you that got it in the end was it? =p Thanks for your comparison
The number of rounds in the gun is the deciding factor for me. I have nightmares about running dry. Six rounds go fast if you are excited and or facing multiple targets.
Self defense is up close, 2,3,4 shots its over. Many fear one in chamber in semi autos so gonna be hard to rack while fighting attacker off so S&W hammerless, airweight, .38 snubby for women.
very thorough comparison..im thinkin of getting a colt python or a smith n wesson 686..i do not have any military training..so i just feel more competant with a revalver.mainly 4 home practicing.but if i do carrey it..i just recently 2-day found out u can get a nice revolver with a hammerless action...can i get 1 i one of the guns i just mentioned??..and isint it safer 4 a hammerless pistal if you are going 2 carrey??
Light does nothing for me. I have fought full armoured combat. Flexible types of armour not weight. The weapon comfort to me is knowing it's there. A gun if it's to heavy you have not trained and carried it, enough. Then it's comfortable. Hopefully you never have to use in real combat but to survive said combat train and carry.
I have both but lean to revolvers . I have had issues with name brand semi autos double feeding and stove piping that of course never happened with a revolver. usually I would say it was the magazine or ammo issue. most of the time my semis run fine. but I don't need to discover any magazine issues when I am trying to save a life. nice Kimber K6 by the way.
sig and other small autoloader pistols chance for malfunctions is like 5% ( if you have tested the ammo if not its much much higher) the revovler 0,2%, i had sig p365, glock 42 glock 43x at the end i have a 642
The revolver is more reliable than any automatic. No failure to feed, eject which takes seconds to clear. The revolver just pull the trigger again. And some people with high capacity mags tend to pray and spray. Not good.
I like snubby revolvers for CCW. Full size hand guns and shorty 12ga for home defense. In the proverbial SHTF scenario. I’d grab my 357 revolvers and 357 lever gun.
@@philvogt7671 so all the things people printed before would just vanish right? your also forgetting that the diy folks who would be into that probably have alternitive power sources like sun or hydrp or maybe they use a gassafier. lots of these people can be self sustained.
2 completley diff.weapons, revolver wins on simplicity of operation , dependability, saftey(Hammer)/automatic , capacity, rapid fire, assault fire ( gang ,fire fight) ; your choice.
QUESTION: I've been watching these debate videos for a while now and have never heard my concern talked about. The "Normal" person works every day and typically has no free time to got o the range and shoot a lot. Because of this, his/her Semi carry gun would sit magazine loaded for a long time with the Spring compressed. I heard that after a while of being compressed (6 months, a year...) that the spring would malfunction a lot when the time came to actually fire it in a needed situation. Resulting in a lot of stove piping, jamming, and problems. Yes, I have a few firearms and have not been able to fire them in years because of working, family, taking care of the house, medical, parents, etc. So would I unload the magazine on my carry auto every month or what? Who has opinions on this?
I can only speak for myself, but I have never had an issue with a magazine spring no matter how long it was loaded. I'm sure that certain magazine designs might be more prone for this type of issue, but I don't seem to own any of those. I have a pretty wide assortment of handguns, so I'm not sure who is really having this issue. Anyway, I keep all magazines loaded and I trust them 100% - but that's me. Thanks for watching.
I did research on this years ago. here's the "if i recall correctly": There's a certain point of compression before a spring begins to fatigue. If it's not compressed at least that amount, it'll never fatigue. As for how to know whether you're beyond that threshold - I'm not sure, but I've heard it does not happen under normal scenarios. Otherwise you do get very gradual spring fatigue from cycling the spring (compressing and then decompressing it over and over). Personally? I'd say replacing the magazine spring once every 5 years would be a cheap thing to do if you're worried, but even this shouldn't be necessary.
I was concerned about this too. I have a couple of older autos, 40&70 years old that still work fine. In my carry/home autos, I don't keep them loaded to the max. Usually 1 or 2 less because the last round takes a lot of force to load. I have multiple magazines, so I don't worry about capacity at home. My back up is a 6 shot revolver, I don't trust it enough for it to be a primary, it broke after 26 shots from new. It was repaired but the s&w lock is still there and the rest of the quality was disappointing for a premium priced revolver, if I only knew then...
I carry revolvers exclusively for one specific reason... you can say all you want about situational awareness, but the cold fact of the matter is, that the bad guy gets to decide where and when... he gets to make the first move. That can, and does at times mean close if not immediate contact BEFORE you get to draw...
A revolver can be fired from any hand/wrist/arm position, it cannot be limp wristed. It also cannot be "out of battery" due to being grabbed or having the muzzle come in contact with the target.
Now... if I were "going to war" or a gunfight of my choosing (time/place), you bet your ass I'm going with a semi... probably a rifle.
100% , yeah if I know I'm getting into a gunfight, I'm bringing a rifle and some friends 😂
But, for day-to-day, depends what I'm doing. For long car rides, Glock 19 with extra mags. For walking around the neighborhood, maybe running to the store, I've got a snub .357.
Unfortunately most people don’t understand Situational Awareness. It is your first line of defense. Some of the comments I’ve read underscore that very succinctly. Be safe…be vigilant. Cheers!
"It also cannot be "out of battery" due to being grabbed". Now that's just not true - grab a revolver in a way that blocks the cylinder from spinning and it is just as much "out of battery" as a pistol.
@@BlackVoidofSpace Hmmm... That IS a fair point. Though it may be a bit more difficult to do. You'd have to maintain a hell of a grip on it.
@@judgesfiveeight honestly, not really - I was really surprised by how light of a grip is enough to stop the cylinder spin.
That said, I do carry a .44 629 revolver myself, so by no means is my comment an inditement of revolver carry.
I guess my point is there's no such a thing as a reliable gun unless you train with it, and do it a lot.
I always like your honest and straight forward reviews, I recently switched from carrying my semi auto 9MM to a S&W 640 Pro 357 magnum revolver and I find it's more flexible being I wear shorts and light clothing a lot here in the sunshine state. It fits in my pocket or on my hip and I find I shoot the 640 better at 10 yards. I am 68 and know many law active and retired enforcement who say the same thing, go to a range and practice regularly with your EDC, god forbid one day you find yourself in a life and death situation and you have to use you weapon, I don't care if you have 5 or 15 rounds, if you can't hit what you aiming at, your dead, plain and simple.
if you can't hit what you aiming at, your dead, plain and simple.
Not necessarily. Maybe the bad guy can't hit what he's aiming at either.
You need to be able to draw and fire with one hand in case you are defending yourself with the other. To me a revolver in a pocket carry holster makes the most sense.
I see the merit in both designs. I mostly pocket carry my 5 shot S&W 442 snub nose in 38 special +p because it is convenient. I do enjoy shooting my S&W M&P M2.0 compact and full-size pistols as well. It’s hard to beat a j frame for a pocket gun. The P365 would still be just a little too big and heavy for that role. I definitely trust the reliability of a j frame over a micro 380 as well
Agreed. I do carry semi-autos as well as revolvers. The main reason I end up with a revolver so much come down to comfort. It's just so easy to grab 2" smith and be on my way.
Excellent review...I'm a revolver guy primarily (Ruger lcr and Kimber K6s), but I do have a CZ Compact which I carry on occasion. During the pandemic, when revolver cartridges all but disappeared from store shelves, I acquired a couple of pistol cartridge chambered revolvers. I had several instances using Blazer brass pistol cartridges, when the bullets jumped the crimp and either fell right out of the cyclinder with the powder dribbling out or jammed up the works so bad, the cylinder wouldn't rotate. Here in Maine we have a duty to retreat, if possible, before using deadly force. If 6 rounds of .357 magnum can't solve your problem, you need to find a better neighborhood.
I agree with the tone of the video where it sounds like the choice really depends on the individual and their comfort and efficiency with a particular gun. I carry a Sig Sauer P365 XMacro. It shoots well for me, has fantastic capacity, and the slim profile conceals fairly easily in my IWB appendix carry holster. An additional reason is that I live in an urban environment, where recently (despite it being a very nice neighborhood) there have been a number of mugging/robbery occurrences involving a roving band of 10 or more degenerates. While situational awareness is the most important thing to have on your side (to quote John Correia from the Active Self Protection channel: "awareness buys you time, and time buys you options"), a good sidearm is a definite plus.
some thoughts to think about from sofa expert: 1. Holster. Carry guns issues, esp ccw when you lost your holster (s*it happens). Huge amount of guns are holster addictive for save handling. 2. Magazine lost issues (s*it happens again). Not every pistol is able to shoot when ammo feeded manually by hand into barrel using extraction hole and make a shot. Berreta 92FS is able (rumours -military requirement), glock w some risk to broke extractor forcing close slide. Many pistols cant close the slide at all. The right choice is somewhere between.
Love your channel, finally
Made it back to watch this video and so love it. Very well presented . Thank you
Never knew there was a debate. Let's see a revolver never has a stove pipe, never has double feed or failure to feed. Failures to fire in a revolver can be handled with one hand, no external safety to plug in, turn on and warm up nor accidentely re-set. What debate?
capacity, reload time, rate of fire.
that debate.
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That's a silly debate. If you carry a firearm as part of your profession, sure, those things matter. If you're going to the store for a pack of smokes and a gallon of milk...exceedingly unlikely that is going to matter. I have both, revolvers, Glocks, AR, etc. I use them all for different tasks. I never feel undergunned, even when rolling hard with my 5 shot .357 snubby 🤟
For myself I carry a wheel gun. I trust the simplicity. When I pull the trigger it goes bang. No FTE, FTF, or stovepipes. I also believe in the Rule of 3 as well. This is just what makes me feel comfortable when I’m out and about. As an aside the most important first line of personal protection is a thorough understanding of Situational Awareness. BTW I did teach that long ago. Cheers!
I’m planning on buying a K6S today. I have plenty of smaller and larger revolvers, but this is a birthday present from my wife. 👍👍👍
I have a 3inch K6 Dasa. Awesome
I'm 50, utilize a cane for a bad hip. Some days, I cannot rack my mini-pistols. My Smith 38 hides and works without any more thought than point. I agree with any detractors, also. ...just me
To me
Simi Auto= combat gun
Revolver= self defense gun
This debate was settled in 1911 :-)
Lol. 1911s are pretty sweet, I will agree.
And then started again in 1917.
Well it was started anyway. Lol
Incorrect.
Yea , unless you need a bigger rnd. Or have other concerns like accuracy at any kind of distance.
The big advantage of a revolver: it can carry different tipe of loads which can also be very easily selected.
It's hard to beat a modern revolver for comfort. They are a bit more difficult to shoot well though. Fortunately it is possible to practice with 22LR which is a good deal cheaper than 38/357.
Try the new Kimber k6xs … it’s my new favorite Carry revolver 6 rounds in a alloy frame
Both have their advantages. IMO the biggest advantage of a revolver is that in close encounters of the violent kind the chances of the gun getting in an unfireable condition such as out of battery and much less chance of user induced malfunction due to non-optimal grip or injury to shooting hand or wrist.
For carry my ideal would be a revolver primary and a moderate to compact DA/SA auto as backup in case I find myself in a war zone.
I have my Springfield "wonder nine"...but the fact that I have 3 carry revolvers tells a lot.
Good video. I disagree with your conclusion, but for me the capacity wins the argument. Any chance of a Taurus GX4 video in the future?
The revolver is my ultimate choice, but I see the merit of both. As far as the Taurus GX4 goes, I think we can do that for you! Thanks for watching.
When I had a cash 'n carry business in a blue big city plantation ghetto the industry I was in was a favorite gangsta target and they operated in packs. So yes capacity was the ultimate consideration. But revolvers at least for the first shot(s), up to 5 or 6, are more instinctive and quicker to deploy with accuracy. Trade off of features and benefits. Any gun is better than none to deflect the attackers.
Good points. Though I seem to be missing something.
All this talk about revolvers (not just here) being more comfortable over semi-autos, but no explanation as to why other than weight. As we know some semi-autos like Kahr are even lighter than air weight Smith and hold 6 rounds. But the revolver is still More comfortable than a semi-auto…
Like I said I guess I missed it.
I like the way Stephen A Camp put it:
In a life threatening situation, you are more likely to run out of time than ammunition (with a 5 shot revolver).
I have a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan 454 casual.
Isn't it also true that a revolver will fire even when pressed against the body of an attacker, whereas an automatic will not? I think the greatest probability of an "incident" is a mugging or carjacking, where the attacker is less than six feet away and physical contact may already be occurring. "Aiming" is no longer possible. You may even have to fire from inside a jacket pocket. I want a double-action revolver with a covered hammer. It is always ready. And five rounds is more than enough.
It’s also possible for someone to grip the cylinder of a revolver so it can’t turn. If a revolver’s cylinder can’t turn the gun can’t fire. Both a revolver and a semi-auto have that issue, just under different circumstances.
Extra rounds in my shield plus is nice but really wanna start carrying a kimber K6s
I carry a .17hr Garder Snake
carry both!!!!!
I used to carry a revolver & at one time a 57 chevy was a new car. You spoke about how You may not be able to clear a jammed round fast enough same goes for a reload what if you need 7?!! As for magazine malfunction that is why you carry 2. I carry M&P9+ or LCP MAX would much rather have 13&14 then 6 & reload!! Revolvers are great so was John Wayne & Clint Eastwood but there time has past!! The die hard revolver guys need to step into the 21st century and stop acting like Ostrich before they get what is sticking above ground shot off!!! Oh yeah any gun is subject to fail that is something you have no control over!!
I’m torn. I love both. Revolvers were good back in the day with the ol’ fashioned street corner mugging. Today the mobs are robbing you with rifles and such. More ammo may be necessary.
There is no conclusive end to this. Sorry TCCC.
Bella recensione complimenti 2 belle armi condivido pienamente, ma io al posto della Glock 19 porto con me una funzionale Czp10c.
glock: 34 parts, including magazine. s&w j frame revolver: 78 parts.
Nothing wrong with carrying both.
Edit: secondly… we all hope we don’t end up in a rare situation where we need to reload.
Revolvers forever 🌩️⛈️🥶🔥🔥🥶🗿🗿⚡👍🐺
Both
With the semi auto you can hit faster more bad guys because the trigger need less finger push than to a revolver, and you can have better accuracy than with revolvers. In a 9mm revolver you can put two blanks, or rubber or pepper bullets , its better if you can avoid to explain to a judge a murder in self defense.
Have a g2c and a taurus856 in 38 special carry both not a the same time saving money to get some thing better at least they work for me
Pistol
Drop em both in the mud then see which one keeps goin and which one blows up because the timing was screwed up/cylinder didn't lock in correct position.
Statically I don't drop my revolver in the mud...just kidding I have semi autos.
Run the test!
Let us know how it turns out.
As a 75 y/o retiree that walks w/a cane a small, light revolver in a pocket holster is best for my situation. During my 30 yrs I was forced into more than one OIS w/my issued thirty-eight and it saved my life every time. We were issued Glock pistols during my last 10 years & while I was glad to be on even footing w/the bad guys, today’s orbits include the grocery store, doctor & lunch w/my retired police buddies. Everyone’s situation is different so pick what works best for you, practice often and don’t purposely go to sketchy neighborhoods.
Damn good advice from old cop.
@@correctpolitically4784 Thanks & stay safe.
This advice comes from wisdom and experience. We all should pay attention
Thanks for the advice sir.
What is best for me is what I decide to carry as I head out the door, but the small .32 revolver my grandfather carried sees a lot of pocket carry.
I like my ruger sp101 5 shot 357 for carry most of the time, but sometimes I carry my glock27. I think it’s a good idea to own both a revolver and a semi auto.
Revolver:
+ no possibility of slide being taken out of battery due to pressing against bad guy
+ doesn't mind lack of rearward space to cycle (such as firing inside pocket)
+ failure to fire fixed by simply pulling trigger again
+ in some cases, user choice of DA/SA
+ no slide manipulation necessary
+ will not limp wrist
+ more ammo options, including wadcutters/snakeshot
Auto:
+ higher capacity at equivalent size
+ greater sight radius at equal length
+ generally lighter at equivalent size
+ slimmer at the widest point (no cylinder)
+ superior bore axis (except rare designs like Chiappa Rhino)
+ capacity usually upgradable via magazines
+ allows offhand more purchase on frame, helping muzzle control
+ significantly faster reload, unless you're expert with a speedloader (and actually carry a speedloader)
+ bad guy can't grab cylinder to prevent function (grabbing slide will do the same, after 1 shot though)
+ in some cases, more options for mounts (lights/sights)
+ probably more resilient on average, to drops and damage, due to fewer moving parts
+ options for manual safety
+ many options for trigger, can go much lighter than revolver
Those are the main ones off the top of my head. As for how to weigh the pluses and minuses, it will vary a lot by individual and what their goals are.
For one person, one of these points might mean everything, and to another it means nothing.
On average, autos have a lot of dimensional and capacity related advantages which can quickly add up to having "more gun", size for size, weight for weight and so on.
But the traits of small revolvers are in some cases, especially suited for civilian CCW at very short distances.
With age comes wisdom. We find out what's reasonable. A five-shot snubby is easy to carry. Somewhat dummy proof as mode of operation. Training with a firearm becomes more and more difficult and expensive, self-defense is not target shooting, or shooting games or a what if proposition. Situational awareness out does a firearm until it doesn't, at that point you need a firearm that's dependable and easy. In my late 50s I have yet to have a confrontation where I needed a firearm, I doubt that will change. But just in case it would be prudent to carry a reasonable amount of protection and thus the five shot snubby will do
I'm a lefty. With autos, I have had brass in the face--kind of a pain. I like how I can use my left hand to load a revolver. Just something to consider.
I'm also a lefty and had never experienced that. My preference for autos is sig and smiths, and in a revolver it's almost always a Smith or Taylor&co for me
Charter, even makes a 'southpaw' lefty revolver
Yep, I'm a lefty too. When I use semi autos, the brass in the face is a problem. I had one shell casing fly back in my face between my cheek and glasses. It burned my cheek before I could get it out.
I use both revolver and semi-auto handguns.
For concealed carry, I prefer a semi-auto.
For open carry, I prefer a revolver.
For home defense, I prefer the reliability and simplicity of a revolver.
For ammo capacity, I prefer a semi-auto with 15 to 30 round magazines.
For defense against black bears, feral hogs, and wild canines, I prefer a revolver.
For fast reloading, I prefer semi-auto with multiple magazines or revolvers with multiple speed loaders.
My personal favorite semi-auto is a 6-inch Heckler & Koch USP 45acp.
My personal favorite revolver is a 6-inch Smith & Wesson 357 magnum.
The revolver is truly a semi-auto pistol. A " sem-auto" is really a one chamber single shot. Consider a first round dud or an empty chamber. Yep, one chamber single shot fail. Slap Jack and rack.
BUUUUT with a five chamber revolver, no problem semi-automatically pull the trigger again, rolling in and sending a fresh one.
That is why I carry a revolver.
I shot a lot of IDPA matches and have personally witnessed many first round fails. Empty chambers and dud rounds. Revolvers are the only intuitive semi-autos in the world. If the firearm fails to fire,? You just pull the trigger again to fix it.
NO ORHER FIREARM CAN DO THAT●
I carry a 642 around the home but in the City, I carry a semi-high cap. Part of that is the high volume of carjacking that happens in Chicago with multiple offenders.
We seem to be living in a great time for pistol development. Small light and high capacity pistols are abundant. I have some that work great. I also have some small lightweight and potent revolvers. Either can be used to get yourself home safely. Lately I've been enjoying the ease and simplicity of a pocket revolver. It will probably continue to work for me.
I heard it said semiautomatic pistols are what you use when you go to trouble and revolvers are what you use to get away from trouble. I like that.
Ty . you pointed out one thing I wasn't thinking of when deciding what to carry on a particular day.ease of use under stress.ive been carrying a S&W 642 mostly in the summer now.and I feel good about my choice.
Excellent review. I carry my Glock 19 in the winter time and other times carry my Glock 43. I quite often also carry my Kimber K6. The only gun I carry outside the waistband in a leather holster is my K6. Super comfortable..
My feeling is if you like revolvers, carry a revolver. If you like semi autos, carry a semi auto. If you like both, carry both either at the same time or in a rotation. It's not that complicated.
I like your thinking
Yep, a rational comment
Right, the main thing is "figure it out". A firearm is just a "lint collector" to many people. If the you figure out what works for you and carry that you'll feel more confident. Initially, I had to make myself carry because it was counter-intuitive but later I got comfortable resulting in my carrying at a much more frequent percentage of the time.
@@invictawarrior Lint collector. I like how you put that. Recently I’ve asked myself how I would use anything that I would buy associated with any of my hobbies. Being dollar fugal and more prudent. Can’t afford to waste going forward.
Semi automatic requires two had to shoot (to be technical)
Revolvers can be shot with one hand no slide to get stuck from limp wrist.
The revolver is generally a bit more reliable but also…you don‘t leave the cartridges behind you 😉
Very true.
I don't know why people say this. Unless you're planning on committing a murder that shouldn't even be a consideration.
@@mr.browning7.624 No its more at the shooting range you don‘t have the mess on the floor when your session is over (at least I have to sweep them up at the range I go to). A revolver, you just tip the finished cartridges into a box, …tidier 😄😉
@@mr.browning7.624 not that anyone is planning a murder,..but should something not expected happen, well,..surely not having cartridges with your fingerprints on them left behind is better…
You mean its more environmentally friendly, not discarding the litter.
At 26:15 you mention that folks will question why you trust your life to a 38 revolver. Those same people trust their life to processed foods EVERY DAY! along with cigarettes, alchohol, fast food, etc. I always laugh at that.
i'm with you a five shot revolver is sufficiant , to damn many pocket 9 around and they're over rated
The Kimber 6XS is a 38 that only weighs 16 oz, 6 shots, 38/38+p only. Aluminum frame steel barrel and cylinder.
That’s my edc
Revolver all the way!!
I own both but I have to be honest. When seconds count and the pressure is on, my S&W 38 Spc Airweight is what I prefer. At home, on the nightstand, is my Glock G19. I actually want the intruder to hear me rack the slide and see the laser sight. Gives him a second chance to question his intent.
I owe a ruger revolvers 357 it was ok until I didn't like carrying too uncomfortable impractical then I got Taurus poly defender 3.8 my favorite gun to carry it a light revolvers with double action.. I owed a glock 9x19 years ago didn't like carrying it personally again uncomfortable need good holster....I never needed alot of shots for self defense cuz I trust my aim. I don't need to be a sharpshooter at 20 yard with it...growing up in "the city" everybody i know that got killed due to gun violence got killed at close range less then 9or10yards and it happened very fast less the 4 or 5 seconds. So a revolver I can pull it out faster shoot without thinking too much, is the gun cocked or not is the safety on or off..I don't Have to worry about magazine malfunctions I has a Glock go off on me as a kids I forgot to mention too I've had magazine fall out jam or malfunction at ranger but my revolvers shoots every time doesnt matter if it's covered in dust. Shotgun for home defense wooden ranch style mini 14 for ranch/ hunting I like love ❤️ the classic stuff.
Totally agree. When the pressure of a moment comes,, and you have very little time... its always better to go simple.
REVOLVERS
If the rule of 3s is accurate there is a very possibility of a close range confrontation. If a malfunction occurs while an assailant has his hands or multiple hands on you a revolver will save your life. Because just pulling the trigger again often clears the problem.
untill you realise most modern semiautos rarly have jamming issues and also recolvers can jam if the round doesnt perciclyy fit. so if you take care of both guns, nether will jam, thats why i prefer semiauto, cause i can have 30 rounds instead of 6 or 8 and reloading doesnt take an eternity, unless you happen to have boonclips but thats still only 8 shots at most
I have a Ruger SP101 in .357 Magnum for winter carry, and a S&W 642 in .38 +P for summer carry. Both revolvers have Hogue grips and a Wilson combat spring kit. I carry a speed loader with both. Both are great for daily carry. The 642 is so light I hardly notice it's there! I can carry that gun 18 hours a day, all day, very comfortably. I think that is what really counts the most: what are you comfortable with? A particular gun might be great, but if you don't carry it with you every time you leave the house, it won't help you. I live in a state that is very restrictive on firearms and we can't have more than 10 round magazines. So, these large capacity semi-autos just aren't available here. And if you have to fire more than 5 or 6 shots in a defensive gunfight, you might get into trouble with the police. Like they say, the vast majority of gunfights are 3 rounds or less. I want something I know is reliable and will work every time and won't jam. I can also fire these revolvers one-handed and even with my weak hand. A semi-auto requires two hands to operate properly. Get into a grappling fight with a perp and I would much rather have a concealed hammer revolver in that fight. A semi-auto can be easily defeated by a perp who knows where to grab it.
Very well done review. Your points are very relevant. Thanks for sharing
6 shot carry revolver with medium/loose DA trigger pull, crisp short reset, and tons of target practice is the absolute best carry option unless you fantasise about taking out a whole street gang on your own. Id even go .22 12 shot no problem if yours good shot and fast. The MAIN REASON revolvers are better: chance of 1st shot malfunction = 0 (good ammo, decent quality gun, loaded prop)
revolvers can totally jam up lol sometimes the ports get deformed or some shit can happen to them. and you dont need to want to kill a whole gang to want 15-30 rounds. in a stressfull situation, you wont notice how facr you fire, and you wont hit every time so i rather not be caught without ammo or needing ro reload.
and maybe there will be a situation were there are 2 or 3 attackers, i sure as hell dont want to be limited by bullets.
.357 Mags are one shot one kill with a well-placed round. That is why you don't need as many rounds. I have seen cops mag dump a 9mm and take a lot longer to stop the perp.
Pick the right ammo for you. The stuff made specifically for short barrels is a good idea.
I normally carry my S&W M&P Shield.45 but I did recently purchase me a Taurus 605 .357 snub nose revolver. I must admit I absolutely love my new revolver & it’s very concealable in my leather holster. I now rotate between my S&W and my Taurus for EDC. Great video good information!!! Subscribed!👍👍
My Kimber K6 is my favorite revolver and my Kimber Pro Raptor ll 1911 in 45 acp is my favorite semi auto! But, My revolver leaves No brass evidence left behind!#settled
I agree 100%. In most situations a small revolver will be enough.
Thank you, friend for an excellent presentation. You made great points for each gun without bashing either. Thank you. Thumbs up and a new subscriber
I will gladly take one of each, thank you 😁
Why don’t you take a 327 revolver and have the best of both worlds.
Ion got a few guns but I prefer to carry a snub nose because I feel it’s more lawyer friendly 😅
I like revolvers because of their simplicity. I don't worry so much about capacity, I just want to be able to trust it if I need it.
Had Rittenhouse been armed with a 45-70 lever gun. The result would have been as devastating, if not more, but the optics would have been different. The same optics would apply with an SD encounter with a Glock 17 vs a revolver.
Carry a sw 637. 5 silver tips. Great single action with the hammer.
Well let's see , never seen or had a revolver jam , you don't need a clip and with the other you have to have one unless you are into single shots so they are worthless without one. Not too many auto-loaders that are set up to shoot Magnum loads.. You don't throw brass all over the place with a wheel gun . They just feel better in your hand than a Simi-auto and will not fall apart like a Glock ( I have seen it happen so don't tell me it never happens ) or a Beretta . I worked at a barrel factory and Beretta bought all of our junk barrels...and on and on. A no brainer buy a revolver .
I think you have got it right on the. nail. The revolver is the simplest most reliable choice, because no matter how much training you have put in, no matter how much you reherse something, when it really counts you want to give yourself the best chance of achieving the end result, and when your life literally depends on it, you want the simplest, most assured path to sucsessfully end the threat in front of you. a
With a semi, there are more moving parts, more places for a potential failure, and more chances for things to go wrong.
You just have to spend some time watching police body cam videos to see people who train all the time in the use of their weapon, it's their job! Watch 10 videos and at least 3 of them there will be some sort of malfunction.
Now that I'm retired no more Glock 17. I strictly carry revolvers. Ruger SP 100 3 in 357 Magnum for concealed carry. A Taurus tracker model 627 six and a half inch 357 Magnum for home.
For me it’s always been about having bad shot/tough bad guy insurance. More rounds gives me more chances to hit a target if I make suboptimal shots under stress. Or if the bad guy can really eat up some rounds and keep going.
I saw a video of a guard shooting a bank robber 6 times with a revolver and the robber still shot him cause the shots were not immediately incapacitating. I know this is an outlier case. But it’s something to consider.
12 rounds in a small handgun is great. I don’t think I necessarily need that many. I’m not paranoid. But it’s good to have more.
I would feel safe with a revolver but I know theres less room for user error with only 6 rounds so that’s why I prefer autos.
I guess I'll chime in with my opinion... I like both semi-auto's and revolvers, but prefer a revolver. I will add that I absolutely hate optics on pistols. I know, I know... practice. I get it, but I still hate optics on pistols. More of a fad. Eventually all those pistol optics will be going into the drawer and folks will return to iron pistol sights. The same goes for the iron sight debate. Blacked out rear sight with white front sight, orange sights, finer optic sites, night sites... hear it all the time ..."gotta have night sights!". Here's some advice: You won't have much time to acquire your night sights, or optics at that range with a person that is determined to hurt you. Practice point shooting. Last thing to add. Red dots belong on rifles. That makes sense.
about a year ago I bought a PDP-C 4", phenomenal gun out of the box, have Zero reliability concerns for EDC, am having 2 issues and it comes down to the PDP, honestly being too big for My personal situation, Heavily looking into a revolver like LCRX (yes X, some days my hands need the ease of single action) or the Taurus 'Defender' series, Super basic mechanically, with upgraded sights and grips...and a 3" barrel, more accurate than a snubbie, more carriable than a 4" pistol
sure to a point you get better quality at a higher price, but the Biggest LCRX is half the price of an M&P .38, and a Taurus Defender is as low as ⅓ the price.
as a guy on a fixed income either one looks better than a $1300 gun held in lock-up for an investigation.
I agree. A short lightweight revolver is all I need to protect myself.
Been lately viewing news media clips of violence in NYC. One depicted a swarm lynching a victim in Times Square. Capacity would be advantageous but in that circumstance and place could an operator get off accurate shots without high risk of public endangerment ? Other incidents were 1 or 2 predators acting out, 'unarmed' or using autopistols. Maybe unseen lookouts and other gang members were present too, predators travel in packs. But revolvers are easier to get off initial shots and to use as cqb push off implements where autos would be of lesser utility. Having any gun is sometimes enough deterrent to discourage assailants.
Lots of females and elderly don't have the hand strength to rack slides and fumble around with magazines and such. A revolver is perfect for day to day self defense.
I just tried to buy that model Kimber the other day on auction since its extra lightweight *thumbsup* Wasnt you that got it in the end was it? =p
Thanks for your comparison
I'm innocent. Someone else must have got it!
The number of rounds in the gun is the deciding factor for me. I have nightmares about running dry. Six rounds go fast if you are excited and or facing multiple targets.
Self defense is up close, 2,3,4 shots its over. Many fear one in chamber in semi autos so gonna be hard to rack while fighting attacker off so S&W hammerless, airweight, .38 snubby for women.
very thorough comparison..im thinkin of getting a colt python or a smith n wesson 686..i do not have any military training..so i just feel more competant with a revalver.mainly 4 home practicing.but if i do carrey it..i just recently 2-day found out u can get a nice revolver with a hammerless action...can i get 1 i one of the guns i just mentioned??..and isint it safer 4 a hammerless pistal if you are going 2 carrey??
In a real situation, time, that is on seconds, is essential. So, I choose a revolver because it is quick draw.
Light does nothing for me. I have fought full armoured combat. Flexible types of armour not weight. The weapon comfort to me is knowing it's there. A gun if it's to heavy you have not trained and carried it, enough. Then it's comfortable. Hopefully you never have to use in real combat but to survive said combat train and carry.
I have both but lean to revolvers . I have had issues with name brand semi autos double feeding and stove piping that of course never happened with a revolver. usually I would say it was the magazine or ammo issue. most of the time my semis run fine. but I don't need to discover any magazine issues when I am trying to save a life. nice Kimber K6 by the way.
and I think if someone shot the Kimber with 38 spec rounds they would shoot it as easily as the Sig P 365.
sig and other small autoloader pistols chance for malfunctions is like 5% ( if you have tested the ammo if not its much much higher) the revovler 0,2%, i had sig p365, glock 42 glock 43x at the end i have a 642
Its an easy decision to make ,
Own both ,and use ether one you prefer,
Depending on what day it is .
Both have their own pro's and con's .
I agree with u 100%..althou i carry both i always go back to my j frame smith model 360
The revolver is more reliable than any automatic. No failure to feed, eject which takes seconds to clear. The revolver just pull the trigger again.
And some people with high capacity mags tend to pray and spray. Not good.
until some other weapon completely replaces firearms this debate will never be settled. i'm a revolver guy myself.
I like snubby revolvers for CCW.
Full size hand guns and shorty 12ga for home defense.
In the proverbial SHTF scenario. I’d grab my 357 revolvers and 357 lever gun.
in a shtf situation you will be outguned by everyone with a 3d printer lol cause ppl will be printing full auto XD
@@kirill2525 with what power source lol.
@@philvogt7671 so all the things people printed before would just vanish right?
your also forgetting that the diy folks who would be into that probably have alternitive power sources like sun or hydrp or maybe they use a gassafier.
lots of these people can be self sustained.
Every day carry, wheel gun gets the job done, if ur invading the ninja camp, then get ur drum mags oiled.
I’ll always take a revolver over a semi auto
"The Debate is Finally Settled"
Says who? How many people agree?
excellent timed live shooting comparison!
2 completley diff.weapons, revolver wins on simplicity of operation , dependability, saftey(Hammer)/automatic , capacity, rapid fire, assault fire ( gang ,fire fight) ; your choice.
Yes, I get so tired of my daily firefights and gang wars I'm always involved in.
Great analysis and presentation all around. Thank you.
QUESTION: I've been watching these debate videos for a while now and have never heard my concern talked about. The "Normal" person works every day and typically has no free time to got o the range and shoot a lot. Because of this, his/her Semi carry gun would sit magazine loaded for a long time with the Spring compressed. I heard that after a while of being compressed (6 months, a year...) that the spring would malfunction a lot when the time came to actually fire it in a needed situation. Resulting in a lot of stove piping, jamming, and problems. Yes, I have a few firearms and have not been able to fire them in years because of working, family, taking care of the house, medical, parents, etc. So would I unload the magazine on my carry auto every month or what? Who has opinions on this?
I can only speak for myself, but I have never had an issue with a magazine spring no matter how long it was loaded. I'm sure that certain magazine designs might be more prone for this type of issue, but I don't seem to own any of those. I have a pretty wide assortment of handguns, so I'm not sure who is really having this issue. Anyway, I keep all magazines loaded and I trust them 100% - but that's me. Thanks for watching.
I did research on this years ago.
here's the "if i recall correctly":
There's a certain point of compression before a spring begins to fatigue. If it's not compressed at least that amount, it'll never fatigue.
As for how to know whether you're beyond that threshold - I'm not sure, but I've heard it does not happen under normal scenarios.
Otherwise you do get very gradual spring fatigue from cycling the spring (compressing and then decompressing it over and over).
Personally? I'd say replacing the magazine spring once every 5 years would be a cheap thing to do if you're worried, but even this shouldn't be necessary.
I was concerned about this too. I have a couple of older autos, 40&70 years old that still work fine. In my carry/home autos, I don't keep them loaded to the max. Usually 1 or 2 less because the last round takes a lot of force to load. I have multiple magazines, so I don't worry about capacity at home. My back up is a 6 shot revolver, I don't trust it enough for it to be a primary, it broke after 26 shots from new. It was repaired but the s&w lock is still there and the rest of the quality was disappointing for a premium priced revolver, if I only knew then...