Great video! Just picked mine up after Christmas. Going through the screws and am a little shocked that all were 1/4 to 1/2 turn loose except for the motor and at the axel carriers. Nice rig overall. Going to run it stock before I make any ESC or pinion changes. Using Gorilla Crystal Clear take on the inside of the shell for added strength. I’ve also ordered a carbon fiber tube to go over the center brace.
If you adjust the center diff fluid....I'm just warning you theres been some diff screws snapping due to the over use of lock tight that arrma has used so tons of heat before removing the screws
THat's a great tip. The MiPs are brand new, the DuBro hardly used, and the L wrench that came with the Kraton was brand new. They literally just spun in the one screw without any attempt to bite. It was odd. I need to order replacements for those right away. The other screws on the truck are fine, just those top two motor mount screws.
@@paulclancy2404 Mine weren't bad. I didn't have to heat them up. The size of the hex opening just didn't match any size tool I have in SAE or Metric...except the one cheap Amazon 2.5mm and it barely grabbed. I had to put it at an angle to try to hook up with one side of the screw. Even still, I was able to unscrew it without resorting to anything crazy. Just not sure what is up with the hexes used for the motor bracket. They were all sloppy before I even tried to unscrew them. They didn't look stripped...just not sized properly.
WOW! Tony this looks like your best jumper so level and fly's perfectly in the air and spot on with the landings! On those motor screws if the hexes strip out use a moto tool with a cut off wheel and cut a slot across the heads so you can use a flat head screw driver to remove em. Nice bashing!
I agree Steve. It handles so well. A lot of precision for a big beast. Cut off wheel was my next option if I could find a tool that fit. Just weird to have it not fit the first time. I hadn't stripped it....and it didn't look stripped. Just sized weird
@@CCxRC Yea I came across some of those hex screws sometimes like that I swear sometimes the machine that makes them may be off a bit and throw off a bad weird batch of screws sometimes.
CCxRC even at the end I didn’t hear it but I know mine got dirt in it it’s a real tight clearance between the cover and blades I’m sure it’s got dirt if it’s not working awesome bash looks like you can clear the fence 😂
I was wondering, can you add mechanical brakes to the Kraton 8S? If I'm not mistaken, the Losi dbxl-e, you have an option for adding mechanical brakes to it. It would be a whole lot better for the performance of the Kraton if you can add mechanical brakes to it.
Great video. I installed the optional 23t pinion from the Kraton 8S in my new Mojave EXB and the fit was really really tie. I used a file to grind the edges of one side, and gave the pinion hits with the file to put it on my Rocket 4092. Taking that out will be quite difficult since I have no workwrench. I wanted to try the Kraton with 23t also since I´m almost blasting with my daugther on open gras fields. So max speed is fun :) With the standard pinion we reach around 55 km/h and with the size and weight of the Kraton it feels massive already. Another thing; my Kraton is now sitting still since steering isn´t going to one side. Also the shock of one side doesn´t works. It feels like something is blocking there. I looked for a stone or something but haven´t found something. Well probably need to dismantle some parts to look what is going on...
May i ask you if there are some troubles with the steering screw , couse to some other guy video after some small jumps steering was not responding and the reason was a loose screw !
depends on which screw they had an issue with. They might have had the screw back out of the servo saver. My screw connected to the steering rack. If it backs out, the pivotball catches on the diff housing and limits steering...bends the screw and will eventually break it off...like happened to mine
Why do your 2 screws in your red motor mount sit more towards the right side in the slot, when my one screw sits almost all the way to the left in the slot in the motor mount pretty much sitting against the plastic cage
Did you have to heat up any of the screws before removing them for the motor mount and/or pinion? My 23t gets here today. Cant wait to get it installed! Thanks!
No. But it was hard to find a hex that fit the screw. They all wanted to spin like it was stripped...even though it wasn’t. Finally got a cheap box wrench to to do it
CCxRC got the motor/assembly out. No issues. Got the screw out of the pinion and the e-clip. Man... cant get that pinion off yet. Been heating with heat gun (trying to heat the pinion and the axle that it’s on without heating the motor). No luck so far. That thing is on there for sure.
When you changed the pinion and said you changed the timing. Do I need another remote to change timing? What happens if you dont change the timing and changed the pinion?
@@CCxRC oh you said timing was adjusted to 7.5. Can you link me the pinion you used? I see some people using the tekno 23T but they had to use some stuff as a spacer.
The infraction was overheating on the stock gear. I geared it down to a 16T to keep that from happening during bashes. No issues with overheating on this. Full battery runs every time. I didn't do a full run on the 23T because it was feeling warm and I want to have a temp gun with me to get real readings before I proceed to long that way. Also, I don't think my fan was running. I need to see if I accidentally unplugged it.
I didn't watch from start to finish so I apologize if you mentioned this, but are you running hot with the 23t pinion, punch turned up and timing adjustment?
Nice rc 👍🏻, i see you got dx5 rugged on your kraton.. its telemetry function such as ext battery, rpm, speedometer can be reading in dx5 rugged with stock rx?
Nice bro I’m running mine with the 23t tomorrow for the 1st time I’m going to race a Xmaxx great video I always look forward to your content 👍🏾💯 Rcfam4life
🔥 In the 🕳 Epic. Goes like a stabbed rat now. Great bash & I'm sooo Jelous of your yard... It's RC Playground nirvana. Happy New Year From Blighty 🇬🇧. 👍
Hey man, got a question for you. Changed my pinion to 23 one. But it's making lot more noise running. More metal noise, can't say it's a wrecking noise but scared I'll wrecked it. Do you noticed a different notice after the pinion switch? Grtz joury
Hey been watching your vids! Good stuff man! I was wondering how you got your affiliate relationship w/ Horizon Hobby!? I'm looking to do the same and maybe you have the 411 on how to make that happen?
th-cam.com/video/xxELWxo6MaQ/w-d-xo.html After replacing the 23t pinion, the braking distance was extended. Should the transmission draftbrake be set separately?
With all the chassis getting bent and Vas’s rant about them on Facebook these aren’t looking too good. I know a lot of guys that got them for review have been trying there best to hide it’s faults but I think there doing not only themselves and there channels a misjustice but also Arrma as a whole. Spending this much on a truck the last thing you want is a main component to have a flaw. They look awesome but imo there not worth the coin which is such a shame
Grumpy Grandpa not sure if you are saying I’m one of those channels or not, but I’ve shown every break with this thing. I showed the overheating Infraction when I was only 1 of 6 to have them. I’m not trying to hide anything. Mines not bent because i drive it like a 1/5 scale. I would do with Deperbash or RCDude81 do with their vehicles. Granted, they are testing its limitations, but I’m not looking to just full-on send it and I’m not taking it to a skatepark. You can jump it big and not bend the chassis. I jump it every time I run it and have even landed on the nose, tumbled it, etc. the other guys straight away planned to get M2C chassis and show how tough they can be. They beef up all their rigs, because they are going insane with them. I actually have told people I still think the DBXLE 2.0 is still my favorite, 1/5 electric I’ve had, but this is definitely growing on me after the change to 23T. It has a lot of the handling characteristics of the DBXLE 2, but I trust this more for big jumping.
The 23t makes it a whole different truck!!
Nice job Tony, great video. I have my 23T on the way and I’m looking forward to running it that way. As always, thanks for supporting this hobby!
I think you’ll love it on the 23T Justin. Wakes it up big time.
Can I get link on which 23T you bought?
That is a Ripper with the 23t pinion!! Great Bash! 23t Where it’s at for that Monster!!
Great video! Just picked mine up after Christmas. Going through the screws and am a little shocked that all were 1/4 to 1/2 turn loose except for the motor and at the axel carriers. Nice rig overall. Going to run it stock before I make any ESC or pinion changes. Using Gorilla Crystal Clear take on the inside of the shell for added strength. I’ve also ordered a carbon fiber tube to go over the center brace.
Nice
If you adjust the center diff fluid....I'm just warning you theres been some diff screws snapping due to the over use of lock tight that arrma has used so tons of heat before removing the screws
Nice runs. Mines coming same color. Excited
I think you can clear that fence with it
after my hex drives get warn out i just grind the warn down bit off with a dremel so its like new again.
THat's a great tip. The MiPs are brand new, the DuBro hardly used, and the L wrench that came with the Kraton was brand new. They literally just spun in the one screw without any attempt to bite. It was odd. I need to order replacements for those right away. The other screws on the truck are fine, just those top two motor mount screws.
It's the locktight , on my Kraton I had to dremel a slit and use a flathead sd
@@paulclancy2404 Mine weren't bad. I didn't have to heat them up. The size of the hex opening just didn't match any size tool I have in SAE or Metric...except the one cheap Amazon 2.5mm and it barely grabbed. I had to put it at an angle to try to hook up with one side of the screw. Even still, I was able to unscrew it without resorting to anything crazy. Just not sure what is up with the hexes used for the motor bracket. They were all sloppy before I even tried to unscrew them. They didn't look stripped...just not sized properly.
@@CCxRC ik I realized at end video, i end up trying match cheaper bits with alot screws too 8ks looks perfect with 23 tooth
Do you guys have any tips for getting out a stripped hex screw? Maybe dremel a slot for a flat head screwdriver? Thanks
Just put the 23t in my Outkast8. Haven’t taken it out yet, seeing this I can’t wait!!
I definitely want to get one but I'm going to wait for awhile to see if traxxas comes out with something else
Xmaxx Fan haha same here, I already have the Kraton 6S and X Maxx and few other and I really want to get this one but I’m not in a hurry so I’ll wait
@@cchhiillaannggoo I have the Erevo 2.0 and the maxx so yeah I'll wait for traxxas
WOW! Tony this looks like your best jumper so level and fly's perfectly in the air and spot on with the landings! On those motor screws if the hexes strip out use a moto tool with a cut off wheel and cut a slot across the heads so you can use a flat head screw driver to remove em. Nice bashing!
I agree Steve. It handles so well. A lot of precision for a big beast. Cut off wheel was my next option if I could find a tool that fit. Just weird to have it not fit the first time. I hadn't stripped it....and it didn't look stripped. Just sized weird
@@CCxRC Yea I came across some of those hex screws sometimes like that I swear sometimes the machine that makes them may be off a bit and throw off a bad weird batch of screws sometimes.
Nice Bash!!! That pinion definitely woke it up.
Looks amazing Tony! The pinion and ESC change really made a big difference 👍
Its a pretty solid truck with either pinon in it.
Looks very good I just purchased one today and was wanting something more than the 17t pinion now im sold on 23💥💥💪💪💨💨
Where did you buy the 23 pinion gear?
Did it get hot with the 23 tooth
lovely backyard mate
oh wow... that looked fun!
Nice run Tony - catching up with my videos on you ;)!
Man that thing is awesome, I absoloutly love your backyard.
Awesome i've got the same pinion coming for mine, I think 23 is were its at
I didn’t hear the esc fan was it working ? Not like I can hear everything 😂
Now that you mention it, I don't hear it either. I'll have to check it.
CCxRC even at the end I didn’t hear it but I know mine got dirt in it it’s a real tight clearance between the cover and blades I’m sure it’s got dirt if it’s not working awesome bash looks like you can clear the fence 😂
I was wondering, can you add mechanical brakes to the Kraton 8S? If I'm not mistaken, the Losi dbxl-e, you have an option for adding mechanical brakes to it. It would be a whole lot better for the performance of the Kraton if you can add mechanical brakes to it.
Holy crap. Any overheating?
Man. I need to gear mine up! This is sweet
All i want is a backyard like that please lol. Great run with the K8 looks like a blast!
Wow she jumps great now w/ 23 toothe💪🏿👍🏿
I completely agree. So much better to have that extra punch to level it out.
Great video. I installed the optional 23t pinion from the Kraton 8S in my new Mojave EXB and the fit was really really tie. I used a file to grind the edges of one side, and gave the pinion hits with the file to put it on my Rocket 4092. Taking that out will be quite difficult since I have no workwrench. I wanted to try the Kraton with 23t also since I´m almost blasting with my daugther on open gras fields. So max speed is fun :) With the standard pinion we reach around 55 km/h and with the size and weight of the Kraton it feels massive already.
Another thing; my Kraton is now sitting still since steering isn´t going to one side. Also the shock of one side doesn´t works. It feels like something is blocking there. I looked for a stone or something but haven´t found something. Well probably need to dismantle some parts to look what is going on...
Great rip👍 I agree you don't really need to back flip this thing to enjoy it👍
Does changing the motor timing give you more top end speed and less torque?
How did u build the ramp
Just ordered one with an xlx2 combo but I'm still sad af that there won't be any dangerous nitro screams
Any probs with chassis?
Nope. Mine is straight as an arrow still.
@@CCxRC how about now? Have you bashed it ??
May i ask you if there are some troubles with the steering screw , couse to some other guy video after some small jumps steering was not responding and the reason was a loose screw !
depends on which screw they had an issue with. They might have had the screw back out of the servo saver. My screw connected to the steering rack. If it backs out, the pivotball catches on the diff housing and limits steering...bends the screw and will eventually break it off...like happened to mine
Why do your 2 screws in your red motor mount sit more towards the right side in the slot, when my one screw sits almost all the way to the left in the slot in the motor mount pretty much sitting against the plastic cage
you could make such a sick track in your yard dude
Does a 17 turn pinion make it faster then a 23 turn pinion
dennis cooley Bigger pinion = Higher top speed
17T pinion is slower than 23T Pinion. Spur gear works the opposite. Smaller spur is faster than larger spur.
@@CCxRC Thank You
Did you have to heat up any of the screws before removing them for the motor mount and/or pinion? My 23t gets here today. Cant wait to get it installed! Thanks!
No. But it was hard to find a hex that fit the screw. They all wanted to spin like it was stripped...even though it wasn’t. Finally got a cheap box wrench to to do it
CCxRC got the motor/assembly out. No issues. Got the screw out of the pinion and the e-clip. Man... cant get that pinion off yet. Been heating with heat gun (trying to heat the pinion and the axle that it’s on without heating the motor). No luck so far. That thing is on there for sure.
Just took a lot of heat. Then finally used two screwdrivers to pry the pinion off (one on each side). Took a while. But got it.
Kraton 8s gear Pinion 23toot tell me how
In this video, besides the 23T pinion, is the truck stock?
Yes
When you changed the pinion and said you changed the timing. Do I need another remote to change timing? What happens if you dont change the timing and changed the pinion?
No. I don’t remember saying timing. The punch is was adjusted. That is done with beeps on the ESC.
@@CCxRC oh you said timing was adjusted to 7.5. Can you link me the pinion you used? I see some people using the tekno 23T but they had to use some stuff as a spacer.
What is the stock size pinion? Does arrma gives an extra pinion with the truck?
Yes they do they give you one in the truck and an extra 23t pinion
What kind of tooth doe sir come with
I've had mine only a week, I'll upgrade it to 12S and that'll be it... beef up the chassis too
what a monsta. from 17 to 23 and this baby goes bananas great bash brotha 💯💯💪💪💪
Awesome video
I’m new to the rc world i recently got a kraton 8s any recommendations on pinion and servo for upgrade beyond stock
Are u having any issues w over heating like the infraction when u change out the pin gear it shut down after 4 mins
The infraction was overheating on the stock gear. I geared it down to a 16T to keep that from happening during bashes. No issues with overheating on this. Full battery runs every time. I didn't do a full run on the 23T because it was feeling warm and I want to have a temp gun with me to get real readings before I proceed to long that way. Also, I don't think my fan was running. I need to see if I accidentally unplugged it.
The kraton 8s speed control fits perfect and it can handle more heat hint hint lol
I didn't watch from start to finish so I apologize if you mentioned this, but are you running hot with the 23t pinion, punch turned up and timing adjustment?
He wrote in the description he didn't get a chance to check it yet. I'm pretty sure others have said they haven't had any heat issues on 22t, 23t
Awesome video very nice bash session good launches 🚀 great job thumbs up 👍
That thing is a full blown beast. I don't have enough space to use that properly. -"Angry" Dave
Nice rc 👍🏻, i see you got dx5 rugged on your kraton.. its telemetry function such as ext battery, rpm, speedometer can be reading in dx5 rugged with stock rx?
Yes. The stock smart receiver sends the info to the smart capable transmitter.
@@CCxRC great 👍🏻 i go to dx5..
Thanks for replying.. 🙏🏻
That thing is a beast 👍
That 23T pinion has the effect of Dr. Jekyll into Mr. Hyde!!! 👊🏻👊🏻
Love it brother Tony much respect 👊
Nice bro I’m running mine with the 23t tomorrow for the 1st time I’m going to race a Xmaxx great video I always look forward to your content 👍🏾💯 Rcfam4life
Oh man! You are going to have a blast with that. Did you change out your center diff fluid to 2.5mill like many are doing?
Please get it on video and link here !
@@dicktrickle4197 Just sub him and hit the bell to get notified 😉👍
🔥 In the 🕳 Epic. Goes like a stabbed rat now. Great bash & I'm sooo Jelous of your yard... It's RC Playground nirvana. Happy New Year From Blighty 🇬🇧. 👍
Hey man, got a question for you. Changed my pinion to 23 one. But it's making lot more noise running. More metal noise, can't say it's a wrecking noise but scared I'll wrecked it. Do you noticed a different notice after the pinion switch? Grtz joury
I did that and mine is a lot louder as well
Hey brother,I love your video’s,you’re a natural 👍🏼👍🏼I get inspired every time I watch one.great jumping with that monster!👍🏼👊🏼✌🏼❤️💪🏼
That woke it up big time awesome very cool 💪💪🔥🔥👍👍
Sure did! Feels great on 23T
Bro mine Sputtered a little bit when I put the 23 tooth pinion in there what do you think could be happening
Did you turn up your punch or motor timing?
CCxRC yes 3.57 on timing and punch 5
Maybe the gear mesh it too tight?
Maybe the gear mesh it too tight?
Hey been watching your vids! Good stuff man! I was wondering how you got your affiliate relationship w/ Horizon Hobby!? I'm looking to do the same and maybe you have the 411 on how to make that happen?
A Beast 👍🏾
Woww.. its jumping like slow-motion 😃👌🏾👍🏾
Yeah...all that weight makes it handle so differently
th-cam.com/video/xxELWxo6MaQ/w-d-xo.html
After replacing the 23t pinion, the braking distance was extended. Should the transmission draftbrake be set separately?
Hell yeah yall
Yes I'm running the 23 tooth in my kraton it is amazingly fun#arrmakraton8s
now the back yard is officially TOO SMALL ... get a running spot .. and re plant some grass ...
Absolute beast now 👍🏼👌🏼
Agreed! Ordered the Arrma 23t and 25T pinions that are on pre-order for late this month or next
1st! Awesome run bro
Thanks for your support and being so quick to click on the video
Nice.
Oops 😬 I just bought a 24T 👀
With all the chassis getting bent and Vas’s rant about them on Facebook these aren’t looking too good. I know a lot of guys that got them for review have been trying there best to hide it’s faults but I think there doing not only themselves and there channels a misjustice but also Arrma as a whole. Spending this much on a truck the last thing you want is a main component to have a flaw. They look awesome but imo there not worth the coin which is such a shame
Grumpy Grandpa not sure if you are saying I’m one of those channels or not, but I’ve shown every break with this thing. I showed the overheating Infraction when I was only 1 of 6 to have them. I’m not trying to hide anything. Mines not bent because i drive it like a 1/5 scale. I would do with Deperbash or RCDude81 do with their vehicles. Granted, they are testing its limitations, but I’m not looking to just full-on send it and I’m not taking it to a skatepark. You can jump it big and not bend the chassis. I jump it every time I run it and have even landed on the nose, tumbled it, etc. the other guys straight away planned to get M2C chassis and show how tough they can be. They beef up all their rigs, because they are going insane with them. I actually have told people I still think the DBXLE 2.0 is still my favorite, 1/5 electric I’ve had, but this is definitely growing on me after the change to 23T. It has a lot of the handling characteristics of the DBXLE 2, but I trust this more for big jumping.