***** They beed something to stop early aggression and the fact Blizzard has given every class some level of two drop, but nothing for preist is ludicrous, unless you want to play dragon decks.
Jacob S Yeah. I've had my account for about as long but if I hadn't used most of my dust for required epics/rares and such I'd probably have quit the game out of frustration. Especially since the only pack legends I've gotten have been Noz, Geddon, and Cho.
I think the epics and rares are more important in most games. Sure some decks require some legendarys, but most of them work pretty well without the legendary but heavly rely on some epics and rare.
I doubt it since they will have to adapt other cards to avoid broken combos. The only card now that changes your max hp is Jaraxxus, you sacrifice 15maxhp and `gain` hero power that generates a Ftone of value while reducing yourself permanently to combo range of things like 2xfireball frostbolt or 2x skill command quickshot hero power which balances out the fact that you have a weapon and valuetown HP. If they were to do the opposite and increase your max health, what would be the trade off? Would you lose your hero power to gain x max health? Would you discard your hand? Or make a class specific card for class that can't really heal well like rogue to allow it more control-ish playstyle (will be able to facetank more damage with weapons). Maybe a card that will push a tribe into play? My suggestion would be a 6mana spell ``Gain 10 health if you control 2 or more pirates.`` This way you can prep it on turn 3 if you previously kept your 1 and 2 drop alive. Idk just a suggestion
I've never quite understood why Blizzard has such an issue printing new healing cards (Earthen Ring Farseer from Classic being an example of a heal card done right). I get that they've said they actually *do* want Aggro to stick around as an option, but at this point I think most would agree that the game is so heavily slanted towards Aggro, giving more efficient heals wouldn't kill Aggro, just stop its overwhelming pervasiveness.
5 for 4/5 with 5 heal anywhere, so trading 1/1 for a 5 anywhere heal, that's reasonable yeah. Problem is, it's a class only card, and the class it's in is Priest, probably the class that needs it the least. I think it would have still been reasonable as a Neutral card honestly.
Theres also another factor in play here. This kind of healing is suited to a control game, where you can set huge clears and then this is your follow up. Control decks are light on the minions (in general) and in particular in the early game, but the C´thun buff cards are all minions, and inneficient minions at that (bar the divine shield one, maybe). That kind of gameplay is best suited to midrange strategies so C´thun is a midrange type of deck in general. This card requires a more refined deckbuilding, still centered on C´thun but C´thun not being the primary focus of the deck (like in druid). Imo, C´thun priest should use C´thun as support tool for the general strategy of outlasting the opponent, again drawing the parallel with druid in wich case plan a, b and c is making a huge C´thun
Darkmender won me a game once, literally, I swear. I was a face warrior up against a priest and I think my opponent forgot he had an Auchenai Shadowpriest on the table and exactly 10 health left, he suicided with the Darkmender
i've actually tried some version of c'thun priest (being a priest fanatic) but i've realized that the darkmander usually does not get to heal for 10 but less, although when it does heal for 10 you are usually so behind that those 10 point are nothing if you don't clear. all of this not counting the worst scenario when you can't actually heal because your c'thun has less than 10 attack (in some list may be rare but it can happen). it's almost better to play it for tempo some times, given the fact that c'thun lists can play on curve pretty easily.
I saw this card played earlier today lol. I don't get why you didn't bring up Darkshire Alchemist? 5 mana 4/5 heal for 5 to any character with no requirement. That card is better in my opinion, and it combos with Auchenai Soulpriest.
I use her in my control deck. Darkmender + Brann is almost as good as a Reno. My deck focuses on healing to buff C'Thun and keep my HP topped off and AoE to control the board/give me things to heal. Though I will agree that it can be a very tough deck to win with but it's a lot of fun when it works. Right now since the meta is very aggro it's been working like crazy.
I dont know but when he started to talk about this "30 health issue" I just thought of some perk for certain chars, go with me ok? What about this: Priest starts with 30 but can go above a certain amount Mage can have 11 mana Warrior starts with x (xx) armor hunter x warlock can have 8 minions rogue can add +1 duration on HP weapon (and if the weapon have 2 or more att, lesser it's attack by 1) I dont say it is necessarily balanced but it is kinda interesting, atleast for me.
I think the problem with the card is this: Healing is only really good against aggro on around turn 8-10 preferably after clearing the board. To activate this card by then you need to mulligan for C'Thun buffers. But you would rather mulligan for board clears and other answers to early minons. That makes it awkward. Healing is also good against combos under 30 damage, but as a priest you will be full health against those decks anyway.
I feel like priest should get some kind of overheal effect on hero to keep up with armor mechanic. Just make overhealing on hero "absorb armor bubble thing" like discipline priest used to do, and sudenly control priest would slam into meta. This could be kinda op but just thinking out loud here You know...
I made it into Rank 5 with a Cthun Priest and I am really happy about it, since that deck isnt top tier. Its awesome how you can heal up 20hp using Brann, and completely rekt your aggro enemy.
Lancelot yeah, sometimes word: pain, and the cheap minions are not enough to secure early board control. But nova & excavateds (and maybe changing the doomcaller for argus) seems enough for me at the moment
The problem with the 20hp heal is that even though it heals you for 2/3 of your health it requires you to be at 1/3 or less in the first place. However it is not too uncommon that decks are able to deal more than 10 damage in one turn meaning that you have to heal earlier with it, losing out on a mentionable amount of health.
"Most powerful heal card." Healing Wave, Reno Jackson, Ragnaros Lightlord if it survives, Forbidden Healing.... I know he means body size + heal strength but idunno. Seems subjective. Specifically where Ragnaros is concerned.
he's talking about mid-game cost effectiveness because a lot of the time aggro decks make you need to heal up around 5 mana turns, rag is 8 mana and reno is okay stats for 6 but with a specific deck prerequisite. healing wave is good but it's also luck and you don't get any board control or presence so while it doesn't instantly heal the most it does the most with overall better efficiency
If you are watching this video on a Mac laptop, try zooming in on Kripp's face and you will get the feeling that Kripp does not really move that much anymore.
Blizzard needs to make a Priest legendary which increases the maximum health of your hero (by 10 or maybe 20 health). It would help against fatigue massively and pull the priest out of OTK range in most cases. It would also not be OP against aggro as the health boost would not be immediate and due to the high mana cost. On top of this, the card easily fits into the Priest class anyway. This just has to be done!
I'd be absolutely ecstatic if Blizzard created a *Priest legendary* that allowed you to go over the maximum amount of health (30). Please, if this sparked some ideas for you, then leave details on how you think the card should be designed (mana cost, max amount of health allowed, stats, condition/requirement to be met for effect to take place, etc.).
You know what'd be a cool way too make healing more relevant? Let players discover whether they wanna heal now, the next turn or the turn after the next one, with the enemy knowing when it will happen. A bit of a complicated mechanic to implement but a really interesting one.
Y'know, Kripp, talking about how armour is better than life because 30 life really isn't enough got me to wondering whether you've ever played Star Crusade, a Russian-made sci-fi rip-off of Hearthstone. One of the (initially) VERY few differences between SC and HS was that your deck isn't fixed at 30 cards, instead allowing you to have between 25 and 40 cards in your deck. Big deal, I hear you say, why would you run ANYTHING other than a 25-card deck then? Because your deck is is also your _starting/maximum life total._ Aggro is a lot less prevalent when it can have to chew through up to 40 life rather than 30 (although practically speaking the upper limit for competitive decks is around 35) and running a really tight, condensed aggressive deck can leave you dangerously vulnerable, especially if you use one of the popular passive Modules (customisable hero powers of which each player can equip up to 3) that reduces your life total in exchange. Star Crusade really is fascinating to a Hearthstone player simply as an study of how basically the same game can evolve a completely different meta because of the minor differences between them (for example, while a lot of the starting Modules are directly equivalent to those of Hearthstone heroes e.g Thrash is Fireblast, there's nothing like Life Tap, so zoolock isn't a thing that can exist).
Would having the Twilight Darkmender's effect have it heal a target instead of just your hero make it better? You could have some Embrace the Shadows shenanigans.
Jimmy Avery Hmm.. and you get a 6/5 minion to soak an answer and a minion or something like that too, isn't too bad, it just gives the card more flexibility is all :D
Brann, embrace the shadows, darkmender and two flash heals. Get an emperor tharrisean deduction on just two of those. 10 mana 30 damage. You would probably play this in a prophet velen deck as well so it would give you more survivability and alternates for your combo.
The card ain't too shabby, compare it to like Guardian of Kings, 7 mana for a 5/6 body and only heals for 6. Granted you don't need the extra requirement to have something and some level, but if you're playing a C'Thun heavy deck boosting it to 10 is simply a matter of playing 2 cards in most cases.
He stole his enemy's C'thun, so when that C'thun died, it counted as Kripp's minion. Then doom caller couldn't raise C'thun for his opponent, because the opponent hadn't had a C'thun die on his side of the board. Kripp had had a C'thun die, so the entombed doom caller raised his opponent's dead C'thun.
It's pretty alright. The faerie dragon effect with it's 9 health make it very hard to remove for any class and the 5 attack is usually good enough to trade very well, but it's hard to fit it into any of the competitive control decks.
We need variable amounts of hero health like we had in WoW TCG, dealing 30 damage is too easy, preventing it is near impossible and recovering it is too costly making it too hard to deal with stuff and stay alive at the same time.
With a similar deck I was struggling around rank 10. I switched to a dragon priest and I effortlessly got rank 3 within 2 days. Just shows how weak this deck really is, no matter how cool a 20 heal with darkmender+brann may look
I think if blizzard want a slower more control deck based game they should just bite the bullet and double the max life and allow decks to have 10 more cards. Because in most of the games on ladder now the games decided before turn 10. The other option would be to have taunt also block spells or do like magic does and let all cards block.
tlstk (that's short for "too long, skipped the kripp"): It's obviously strong enough to be played in every single C'thun priest, but not good enough to make C'thun priest worth playing over other priest decks.
He misplayed the Twin Emperor Vek'lor heals right? If he kept one of the spawned minions alive instead, then the entombed minion wouldn't have the effect?
What if they made healing stack up to 10 above max health in like a water shield type deal? and when you take damage it heals. Might create some broken handlock decks with jaraxxus and perhaps healing wave malygos shaman but meh
No, the best heal card in the game is Ancient Shieldbearer. Unlike Darkmender, it can overheal, so it's effect is always relevant, even moreso when you also have Brann, and armor isn't affected by Alexstrasza. Also, since Auchenai is super important for basically every priest deck out there, it can sometimes lead to an awkward situation where you have to trade your Auchenai first before playing Darkmender.
I'm a control player, so Priest is my nightmare... This class is getting more and more sick tools to win control matchups. Waiting for the day when Entomb is finally leaving Standard -.-
They got the best Aoe's with Cirle combo or Excavated Evil, have strong removals in Shadow Word's and Entomb, can transform their survival tools into burst and huge board control. So yeah they've lost ligthbomb. But that card was also way to overpowerd compared to the other Aoe's in HS.
We will probably have some sort of adventure expansion this Autumn, and then, presumably in the Spring 2017, with the release of new full expansion, BRM and LOE will rotate out of standard. The current selection of Standard card sets is updated when the first new expansion each year is released. Source: hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Standard_format#The_Standard_year
I don't understand why would league of explorers be out of standard next year if black Rock mountain is older. Is there some explanation why kripp always say this?
they will both be out. each year, all the expansions that came out 2 years ago are removed. a whole years worth is removed at the same time. League came out in the same year as blackrock
Kripp. You missed the point that Armour will ALWAYS 'heal' you for the full cost...... Twilight Darkmender may only heal you for 5 or 1 or maybe even nothing if you are full health. You also did not mention that Warrior has HUGE synergy with Armour i.e. Shield Slam.
Which for 1 Mana can kill any minion (bar stealth/bubble) if you have the armour. There is no priest card that comes even close to that... so ye, HUGE synergy :)
Exactly, Shield Slam (and Execute) are extreme value. I personally would cost them at 3 mana each, and even then they would see play (maybe you would only run 1 of each)
One of the few times I dissagree, this card is busted. If I play vs c'thun priest I have to deal more then 50 damage to exually kill the priest and when you're not playing a controle deck you either get a crazy start and win early or slowly run dry on damage and lose.
You would need to get cthun for them to work. And if you don't get cthun well then the worthless cthun cards are only taking a place as one of the 3 options you get.
Actually, lots of them. Cult Sorcerer - 2 mana 3/2 with Spell Damage +1, amazing for Mage Hooded Acolyte - 4 mana 3/6, great stats for the Arena, same goes for the Usher of Souls and many more C'Thun cards Blade of C'Thun - 9 mana Assasinate+Summon a 4/4 in one card Twilight Geomancer - do you remember Kripp's video where he said that cards like Silverback Patriarch are okay-ish in Arena? That is the improved version of it. There is no denying that some C'Thun related cards, such as Ancient Shieldbearer or Twin Emp are pretty bad without the Old God himself, but many C'Thun cards are quite good in the arena, even without the 'buffing' part.
I don't know what to say about this card, i agree it's in a wrong class. Priest is best at control game and decent at dragons, and this card with it's c'thun sinergy just does not fit in. Really to play this card you need to fit in your deck quite a few c'thun sinergy crap cards (only 2 damage to target is half decent) to activate this heal effect and then you are either losing so badly it does not matter or you took out a lot of your powerful priest cards so you have no answers. Really, all the healing priest needs is in its hero power and flash heal + those cards are more flexible with shadow combos to do damage. It's just a pointless card, would be much better in druid, and that druid biggie would do well in priest to cement board presence in c'thun deck. Actually darkmender would probably be better in any other class besides paladin for that matter :P
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"Expansial"
Kripp with his silly krippspeak
Kray-Ken
bomber
"I all have to do now is not lose" -Krip 2016
Plague Inc.
Kripp*
Priest mindset #2016
I have no Entomb. I have no Death.
I have no time for games!
but you have time to comment :3
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TheHolonist You figuratively saved my life and/or literally linked the thing I was referring to. Thanks bro.
Yolo Cthun
I have no entomb.
Kripp: I have no Entomb
Kripp: I have no Death
Sylvanas: I have no time for games!
The second reason that armor better than healing is of course Shield Slam. 8 mana: get a 6/6, 10 armor and kill anything with
It used to be even better when you didnt get frozen by only losing armor and not health.
+MrTohawk Oh man, I remember those days...
Priest gets all the best 5-6 mana cards in the game
Meanwhile, that 2 drop spot.....Hope you like playing dragon decks!
Dang blizzard why you hate preist 2 drops.
Ddd--d-d-Don't touch that subject. It's touchy
+Jesus Herrera got anything else for standard though? :P
Priest is meant to control early game, not flood it with high value minions. They set themselves up for the late game.
*****
They beed something to stop early aggression and the fact Blizzard has given every class some level of two drop, but nothing for preist is ludicrous, unless you want to play dragon decks.
I like how Kripp has two legendaries on his free account that I don't have on my main account.
Its the same with me
But what do we know to him were scrubs.
Thatedvardguy Not sure where you were going with that. I was referring to Sylv and Vek, both cards that I desperately need but don't have.
I've had a free to play account for only 4 months, and I have crafted Sylvanus and have about 1300 dust saving to craft another legendary.
Jacob S Yeah. I've had my account for about as long but if I hadn't used most of my dust for required epics/rares and such I'd probably have quit the game out of frustration. Especially since the only pack legends I've gotten have been Noz, Geddon, and Cho.
I think the epics and rares are more important in most games.
Sure some decks require some legendarys, but most of them work pretty well without the legendary but heavly rely on some epics and rare.
Blizzard doesn't let you heal but they let warriors get an extra 50 armor
do you think that they will make cards that make you ''gain'' health instead of ''heal'' you? so you can go above 30 hp?
I doubt it since they will have to adapt other cards to avoid broken combos. The only card now that changes your max hp is Jaraxxus, you sacrifice 15maxhp and `gain` hero power that generates a Ftone of value while reducing yourself permanently to combo range of things like 2xfireball frostbolt or 2x skill command quickshot hero power which balances out the fact that you have a weapon and valuetown HP. If they were to do the opposite and increase your max health, what would be the trade off?
Would you lose your hero power to gain x max health? Would you discard your hand?
Or make a class specific card for class that can't really heal well like rogue to allow it more control-ish playstyle (will be able to facetank more damage with weapons). Maybe a card that will push a tribe into play?
My suggestion would be a 6mana spell ``Gain 10 health if you control 2 or more pirates.`` This way you can prep it on turn 3 if you previously kept your 1 and 2 drop alive. Idk just a suggestion
I don't think that makes sense, cos that's the gimmick of armour, rather than health.
+Sebastian Zajdel (SilnyDruid) You forgot majordomo executus but your point is otherwise valid
+deadpenguinss Majordomo into Alexstraza gives you +7 health, idk if permanently though
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+Banana He is kripp.
It's Rania!
It is actually insane how fast he comments, maybe it is low key Kripp or Rania lol
THANKS. SAVED MY BOWIE KNIFE
+Calvin McNeil it isn't
I've never quite understood why Blizzard has such an issue printing new healing cards (Earthen Ring Farseer from Classic being an example of a heal card done right). I get that they've said they actually *do* want Aggro to stick around as an option, but at this point I think most would agree that the game is so heavily slanted towards Aggro, giving more efficient heals wouldn't kill Aggro, just stop its overwhelming pervasiveness.
That's the point. You don't want the deck to die.
Lots of decks aren't dead without being dominant either.
Darkshire Alchemist is pretty good.
5 for 4/5 with 5 heal anywhere, so trading 1/1 for a 5 anywhere heal, that's reasonable yeah. Problem is, it's a class only card, and the class it's in is Priest, probably the class that needs it the least. I think it would have still been reasonable as a Neutral card honestly.
+Mathmachine Exactly, could fill the void of Healbot
Theres also another factor in play here. This kind of healing is suited to a control game, where you can set huge clears and then this is your follow up. Control decks are light on the minions (in general) and in particular in the early game, but the C´thun buff cards are all minions, and inneficient minions at that (bar the divine shield one, maybe). That kind of gameplay is best suited to midrange strategies so C´thun is a midrange type of deck in general. This card requires a more refined deckbuilding, still centered on C´thun but C´thun not being the primary focus of the deck (like in druid). Imo, C´thun priest should use C´thun as support tool for the general strategy of outlasting the opponent, again drawing the parallel with druid in wich case plan a, b and c is making a huge C´thun
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Nice copypasta bro
Nigga' please
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All awfulness aside, I'm pretty sure most police departments know what an internet troll is and don't consider them to be worth their time.
so blizzard doesn`t want healing but warriors can have 40+ armor
warrior can have 40+ armor, but graves cant have his cigar. Thanks Obmana.
Obmana
That's an interesting type of mana.
They need to put a 30 armour cap in place. Thats ballanced.
Springtail agreed
+Pavlin Pavlov If you let a warrior get to 30 armor, then you did something very wrong. Warrior's perfectly balanced as is.
Darkmender won me a game once, literally, I swear. I was a face warrior up against a priest and I think my opponent forgot he had an Auchenai Shadowpriest on the table and exactly 10 health left, he suicided with the Darkmender
i've actually tried some version of c'thun priest (being a priest fanatic) but i've realized that the darkmander usually does not get to heal for 10 but less, although when it does heal for 10 you are usually so behind that those 10 point are nothing if you don't clear. all of this not counting the worst scenario when you can't actually heal because your c'thun has less than 10 attack (in some list may be rare but it can happen). it's almost better to play it for tempo some times, given the fact that c'thun lists can play on curve pretty easily.
I saw this card played earlier today lol. I don't get why you didn't bring up Darkshire Alchemist? 5 mana 4/5 heal for 5 to any character with no requirement. That card is better in my opinion, and it combos with Auchenai Soulpriest.
"I have no entomb, I have no death, I have no time for games!"
Nice original comment bro
+BM Raterino Kripperino didn't realize Id copied. Just heard a quote and laughed.
I use her in my control deck. Darkmender + Brann is almost as good as a Reno. My deck focuses on healing to buff C'Thun and keep my HP topped off and AoE to control the board/give me things to heal. Though I will agree that it can be a very tough deck to win with but it's a lot of fun when it works. Right now since the meta is very aggro it's been working like crazy.
I dont know but when he started to talk about this "30 health issue" I just thought of some perk for certain chars, go with me ok? What about this:
Priest starts with 30 but can go above a certain amount
Mage can have 11 mana
Warrior starts with x (xx) armor
hunter x warlock can have 8 minions
rogue can add +1 duration on HP weapon (and if the weapon have 2 or more att, lesser it's attack by 1)
I dont say it is necessarily balanced but it is kinda interesting, atleast for me.
15:04 "I have no entomb, I have no death" "I have no time for games!"
I like his moment when he say "Check out the Kripps and I see you guys tomorrow"
I think the problem with the card is this: Healing is only really good against aggro on around turn 8-10 preferably after clearing the board. To activate this card by then you need to mulligan for C'Thun buffers. But you would rather mulligan for board clears and other answers to early minons. That makes it awkward. Healing is also good against combos under 30 damage, but as a priest you will be full health against those decks anyway.
Wait! Are you from Toronto!?
I didn't know I just moved to live in the same place as the likes of Kripparrian. I feel honored.
I feel like priest should get some kind of overheal effect on hero to keep up with armor mechanic. Just make overhealing on hero "absorb armor bubble thing" like discipline priest used to do, and sudenly control priest would slam into meta. This could be kinda op but just thinking out loud here You know...
I made it into Rank 5 with a Cthun Priest and I am really happy about it, since that deck isnt top tier. Its awesome how you can heal up 20hp using Brann, and completely rekt your aggro enemy.
Hooded acoltye and darkmender make it somewhat competitive, but preist needs ways to secure early board control, which is the problem.
Lancelot yeah, sometimes word: pain, and the cheap minions are not enough to secure early board control. But nova & excavateds (and maybe changing the doomcaller for argus) seems enough for me at the moment
tomazingerz
Preist can remove stuff efficiently the reall question is at one point does the damage becomes too much.
The problem with the 20hp heal is that even though it heals you for 2/3 of your health it requires you to be at 1/3 or less in the first place. However it is not too uncommon that decks are able to deal more than 10 damage in one turn meaning that you have to heal earlier with it, losing out on a mentionable amount of health.
"Yolo C'thun, I have no entomb, now I'm screwed."
I don't know why but Kripp just sounded like a poet.
"Kripp electronics" KRIPPTRONICS! :D
"Most powerful heal card."
Healing Wave, Reno Jackson, Ragnaros Lightlord if it survives, Forbidden Healing....
I know he means body size + heal strength but idunno. Seems subjective. Specifically where Ragnaros is concerned.
he's talking about mid-game cost effectiveness because a lot of the time aggro decks make you need to heal up around 5 mana turns, rag is 8 mana and reno is okay stats for 6 but with a specific deck prerequisite. healing wave is good but it's also luck and you don't get any board control or presence so while it doesn't instantly heal the most it does the most with overall better efficiency
If you are watching this video on a Mac laptop, try zooming in on Kripp's face and you will get the feeling that Kripp does not really move that much anymore.
Blizzard needs to make a Priest legendary which increases the maximum health of your hero (by 10 or maybe 20 health). It would help against fatigue massively and pull the priest out of OTK range in most cases. It would also not be OP against aggro as the health boost would not be immediate and due to the high mana cost. On top of this, the card easily fits into the Priest class anyway. This just has to be done!
When Emperor Thaurisan goes, there will be a bit less OTK. The mana discounts are what makes some combo decks viable at all.
"He yolo C'thuned, I have no entomb... I have no death..."
"I have no time for games!"
how good is skipperinno kriperinno
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Thanks man, I had a hard time finding it
Could you maybe also link the end, so that I know when I can stop watching?
I'd be absolutely ecstatic if Blizzard created a *Priest legendary* that allowed you to go over the maximum amount of health (30).
Please, if this sparked some ideas for you, then leave details on how you think the card should be designed (mana cost, max amount of health allowed, stats, condition/requirement to be met for effect to take place, etc.).
that's actually really cool that the doomcaller will put the opponents dead C'thun into your deck if you play his doomcaller.
I always thought reno would be the best heal card :>
outside of standard yes
+DuBstep115 he's saying there are other cards in wild that are better
***** "I thought reno is best heal card" "outside of stantard yes" How he did not say its not a wild card?
They could add in overhealing, and have healing slowly dimish when above 30.
priest has so many good cards and i dont know which ones should i put in my deck
how much of a better card would Twilight Darkmender be if you would aim the heal?
15:09 No entomb, no death, no time for games
Yeah heal is less good than armor. But you cant armor up your minions. You can heal them tho. Dont forget it Kripp
They could just remove the cap on health. start with 30, but you can add more if you are at 30...
That destroys Warrior's niche though
control priest would be so fucking broken if that happened
You know what'd be a cool way too make healing more relevant? Let players discover whether they wanna heal now, the next turn or the turn after the next one, with the enemy knowing when it will happen.
A bit of a complicated mechanic to implement but a really interesting one.
Y'know, Kripp, talking about how armour is better than life because 30 life really isn't enough got me to wondering whether you've ever played Star Crusade, a Russian-made sci-fi rip-off of Hearthstone. One of the (initially) VERY few differences between SC and HS was that your deck isn't fixed at 30 cards, instead allowing you to have between 25 and 40 cards in your deck. Big deal, I hear you say, why would you run ANYTHING other than a 25-card deck then? Because your deck is is also your _starting/maximum life total._ Aggro is a lot less prevalent when it can have to chew through up to 40 life rather than 30 (although practically speaking the upper limit for competitive decks is around 35) and running a really tight, condensed aggressive deck can leave you dangerously vulnerable, especially if you use one of the popular passive Modules (customisable hero powers of which each player can equip up to 3) that reduces your life total in exchange.
Star Crusade really is fascinating to a Hearthstone player simply as an study of how basically the same game can evolve a completely different meta because of the minor differences between them (for example, while a lot of the starting Modules are directly equivalent to those of Hearthstone heroes e.g Thrash is Fireblast, there's nothing like Life Tap, so zoolock isn't a thing that can exist).
Would having the Twilight Darkmender's effect have it heal a target instead of just your hero make it better? You could have some Embrace the Shadows shenanigans.
Darkmender+soulpriest=10 dmg for 9 mana. And if you have brann then that's 20 dmg
Jimmy Avery Hmm.. and you get a 6/5 minion to soak an answer and a minion or something like that too, isn't too bad, it just gives the card more flexibility is all :D
it would be completely broken...
Brann, embrace the shadows, darkmender and two flash heals. Get an emperor tharrisean deduction on just two of those. 10 mana 30 damage. You would probably play this in a prophet velen deck as well so it would give you more survivability and alternates for your combo.
+Gareth Rowbotham I guess they thought of the OTK scenario hmm.. I know right now you can already do 20 with that combo using Darkshire Alchemist
@0:40 the best healing in the game is forbidden healing, perhaps healing on a body
this card has saved me every game as a priest. its one of the most valuable cards in this series for priest.
The card ain't too shabby, compare it to like Guardian of Kings, 7 mana for a 5/6 body and only heals for 6. Granted you don't need the extra requirement to have something and some level, but if you're playing a C'Thun heavy deck boosting it to 10 is simply a matter of playing 2 cards in most cases.
why did kripp get a c'thun when his hasn't died yet? is it because he took the caller from the enemy when it dies so it counts?
He stole his enemy's C'thun, so when that C'thun died, it counted as Kripp's minion. Then doom caller couldn't raise C'thun for his opponent, because the opponent hadn't had a C'thun die on his side of the board. Kripp had had a C'thun die, so the entombed doom caller raised his opponent's dead C'thun.
How good is Slogoth the slitherer ? This card is really strange and I cannot say if it 's standard playable.
It has some decks it can be put into and it's extremely good in a spell heavy meta,it's the bane of miracle rogue if you live up to turn 9
It's pretty alright. The faerie dragon effect with it's 9 health make it very hard to remove for any class and the 5 attack is usually good enough to trade very well, but it's hard to fit it into any of the competitive control decks.
Can you make a "How good is Warcraft, The Beginning"?
12:15 "Man I don't want to burn a pyro"..... NO PYRO BURNS YOU!
We need variable amounts of hero health like we had in WoW TCG, dealing 30 damage is too easy, preventing it is near impossible and recovering it is too costly making it too hard to deal with stuff and stay alive at the same time.
With a similar deck I was struggling around rank 10. I switched to a dragon priest and I effortlessly got rank 3 within 2 days. Just shows how weak this deck really is, no matter how cool a 20 heal with darkmender+brann may look
shouldn't you trade the empreor with the battlecry to avoid it being entombed?
"All I have to do is not lose" - Yeah Kripp that's basically the game
I think if blizzard want a slower more control deck based game they should just bite the bullet and double the max life and allow decks to have 10 more cards. Because in most of the games on ladder now the games decided before turn 10. The other option would be to have taunt also block spells or do like magic does and let all cards block.
in my mind the paladin heal, the Zero Mana spend all your Mana for doubble heal, is the best heal card in the game. but it's just me
Armor is more important than Einstein's theory of relativity.
That card has a pretty nice frame if you know what I mean(I'm not talking about the card frame)
tlstk (that's short for "too long, skipped the kripp"):
It's obviously strong enough to be played in every single C'thun priest, but not good enough to make C'thun priest worth playing over other priest decks.
Can you imagine this card in the Warlock class? Oh, how OP it would be!
I like catching aggro decks offguard with this and brann for a 20 pop heal.
they should put extra heal when its reach over 30 lp so it become the new max life points for the priest.
He misplayed the Twin Emperor Vek'lor heals right? If he kept one of the spawned minions alive instead, then the entombed minion wouldn't have the effect?
What if they made healing stack up to 10 above max health in like a water shield type deal? and when you take damage it heals. Might create some broken handlock decks with jaraxxus and perhaps healing wave malygos shaman but meh
do you guys think buffing the priest hero power to heal for 3 and with justicar to 6 would make priest mor competitive ?
I'm all for buffing heal and control in general, but I don't know if this will make a significant enough impact.
It'd be far too overpowered so no
You dont need cthun in your deck to use the effect but you do need buff cthun cards
That was quite some evil you excavated there...
Is Twin Emps "There will be paaaain" quote a Pinhead reference? Voice even sounds similar.
No, the best heal card in the game is Ancient Shieldbearer. Unlike Darkmender, it can overheal, so it's effect is always relevant, even moreso when you also have Brann, and armor isn't affected by Alexstrasza. Also, since Auchenai is super important for basically every priest deck out there, it can sometimes lead to an awkward situation where you have to trade your Auchenai first before playing Darkmender.
Alright alright, maybe I shouldn't comment before watching the whole video first.
... isn't Reno the biggest heal card in the game?
No it's tree of live since it also helas minions
and the opponent
I'm a control player, so Priest is my nightmare...
This class is getting more and more sick tools to win control matchups.
Waiting for the day when Entomb is finally leaving Standard -.-
They got the best Aoe's with Cirle combo or Excavated Evil, have strong removals in Shadow Word's and Entomb, can transform their survival tools into burst and huge board control.
So yeah they've lost ligthbomb. But that card was also way to overpowerd compared to the other Aoe's in HS.
Which approximate do all the past expansions rotate out?
aw gawd cant edit on phone!!! NOOOOO!!!
We will probably have some sort of adventure expansion this Autumn, and then, presumably in the Spring 2017, with the release of new full expansion, BRM and LOE will rotate out of standard.
The current selection of Standard card sets is updated when the first new expansion each year is released.
Source: hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Standard_format#The_Standard_year
Dias Akhmet Oh I thought TGT would rotate out sooner than this. Well ok, thanks for the info :0
this card is auto include in any C'thun priest, but sure, I'll listen to Kripp yap about it for 20 min at 2x speed Kappa
i've got a nerf in my sights
fak -BGH 2016
"How Good Is Darkshire Councilman?" doesn't exist yet...
Wow I'm here before skipperino kripperino
So Kripp lives in Toronto?
I don't understand why would league of explorers be out of standard next year if black Rock mountain is older. Is there some explanation why kripp always say this?
they will both be out. each year, all the expansions that came out 2 years ago are removed. a whole years worth is removed at the same time. League came out in the same year as blackrock
Kripp. You missed the point that Armour will ALWAYS 'heal' you for the full cost...... Twilight Darkmender may only heal you for 5 or 1 or maybe even nothing if you are full health. You also did not mention that Warrior has HUGE synergy with Armour i.e. Shield Slam.
HUGE synergy with armour : Shield slam kappa ahdsd that's the only card with armour synergy xD
Which for 1 Mana can kill any minion (bar stealth/bubble) if you have the armour. There is no priest card that comes even close to that... so ye, HUGE synergy :)
Because shield slam is so insignificant to the success of control warrior right?
Exactly, Shield Slam (and Execute) are extreme value. I personally would cost them at 3 mana each, and even then they would see play (maybe you would only run 1 of each)
rofl im not even saying shield slam is bad, but u said "etc" xD and there is only 1 card that has synergy with armour
Card that has text "Increase your max health" would be good in preist.
could be abused with bran and reno
Priest NEED a legendary that can increase their MAX amount of health by 10 or 15(you current health wont change just the max amount)
Would be nice to get some effect increasing max HP
How good/bad is Anomalus???
From my experience, you can't play Darkmender for the healthgain, you are either never that low or you are so far behind that it won't matter.
I got 20 health and won from this card+a yesera card on round 10
is that the iMightyHutch the youtuber at 12:18 ?
Skipperino? I NEED YOU
when you are low hp, darkmender with brann saves you
In the first game alone the word "C'Thun" was said 19 times
i think there must be a card that raises the priest's life total... somewhere around 40 or 45
No but there is a druid card if comod right.
Fandral the use the 6 mana chose one effect on your hero.
what?
+Thatedvardguy
Fandral and dark whispers on your hero, it raises your health to 35 and gives you a permanent 5 attack and taunt
It's a bug
Fun card wish is was a 5/6 instead of 6/5....but still useful
The darkmender should've been given to rogues since they rely on weapons for like 50% of their clears and have no armor/heals
One of the few times I dissagree, this card is busted. If I play vs c'thun priest I have to deal more then 50 damage to exually kill the priest and when you're not playing a controle deck you either get a crazy start and win early or slowly run dry on damage and lose.
I think Cthun cards should be in arena.
It wouldn't work. You need to dedicate a lot of cards to make a functioning C'thun deck.
+G. ShadowBroker its getting c'thun thats the problem.
You would need to get cthun for them to work. And if you don't get cthun well then the worthless cthun cards are only taking a place as one of the 3 options you get.
you don't need c'thun for c'thun cards to work, we've known that basically since release
Actually, lots of them.
Cult Sorcerer - 2 mana 3/2 with Spell Damage +1, amazing for Mage
Hooded Acolyte - 4 mana 3/6, great stats for the Arena, same goes for the Usher of Souls and many more C'Thun cards
Blade of C'Thun - 9 mana Assasinate+Summon a 4/4 in one card
Twilight Geomancer - do you remember Kripp's video where he said that cards like Silverback Patriarch are okay-ish in Arena? That is the improved version of it.
There is no denying that some C'Thun related cards, such as Ancient Shieldbearer or Twin Emp are pretty bad without the Old God himself, but many C'Thun cards are quite good in the arena, even without the 'buffing' part.
frost mage c'thhun is good. really bad against enrage warrior and sometimes warlock
5:29 skipperino Kripperino
There needs to be a card that lets healing go over your max health
I don't know what to say about this card, i agree it's in a wrong class. Priest is best at control game and decent at dragons, and this card with it's c'thun sinergy just does not fit in.
Really to play this card you need to fit in your deck quite a few c'thun sinergy crap cards (only 2 damage to target is half decent) to activate this heal effect and then you are either losing so badly it does not matter or you took out a lot of your powerful priest cards so you have no answers. Really, all the healing priest needs is in its hero power and flash heal + those cards are more flexible with shadow combos to do damage. It's just a pointless card, would be much better in druid, and that druid biggie would do well in priest to cement board presence in c'thun deck.
Actually darkmender would probably be better in any other class besides paladin for that matter :P
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