Inazuma suffered mostly due bad pacing, it should have 4 acts to better space out events, and shouldn't require story quests to progress, Ayaka and Yoimiya story quests should be rewritten to be to take place after Inazuma archon quests and not be part of it.
I actually think it’s better for story quests to be apart of the story,you don’t want another Keqing situation where she appears once,does nothing then reappears for the final battle Having her own focused quest would give her something to do.other than that yeah,Inazuma was bad imo
The only Archon Quest they need to rewrite is Inazuma. Mondstadt and Liyue are great introduction to the world in story-telling perspective. Inazuma just destroys everything like how Ei destroyed three islands of her own nation.
Liyue 100% needs a bit of a rewrite Zhongli “died”, we talk to the adepti, plan a funeral, collected stuff for said funeral, then we fight childe and osial Everything between the first and last events I just listed was a complete and utter slog to playthrough. Not an entire rewrite, but the middle sections do need fixing
I believe that people forgot that monstadt was 1.0,aka when the game first came out besides its called prologue meaning we arent done there so of course it feels witholding along with liyue and did we all forget inazuma was an expriment phase,this is evident with character kits such as ayato.
I think that the old archon quests are good. Mondstadt needed to have a short archon quest in order to hook players into the storytelling of Genshin. First impressions are really important in games and being able to deliver an entire story to starting players without making them feel overwhelmed is difficult. Of course now these stories are rather surface level compared to newer quests, however if these older quests were dropping late-game lore then many people would have felt put off. Being introduced to the themes of the game slowly and in bite-sized pieces until the players are able to actually digest the deeper lore is important. At the time of playing those quests I was not at all bored by them. If I played them now as an experienced genshin fan I would find them bland, but that's the point because I have more knowledge of the lore and don't need that slower pace. I do think that Venti and Zhongli are due for another Archon quest though. I feel later archons got much more opportunity to show their power however Venti and Zhongli are the two oldest archons that we have and yet neither has any impressive scenes. I wish they had an opportunity to shine so people would stop calling them the worst archons. They're far from the worst, we just haven't seen what they're capable of yet.
I want add to Inazuma, it is well done but poorly written and sadly even Sumeru got that poorly writting but i will came back it for later, for now Natlan is for me Inazuma 2.0 cause it goes same thing, War, but unlike civil war we going with Abyss and we see what a war can do but what doesnt show is psychological horror, not like death of people but also some power turn you agains ally but person on its own. Natlan is carefree nation while Inazuma goes for nobility and disciplination and that where Core it should be As we get Archon quest, instead of Ayaka and Yoimiya quest in archon, we should do some preperation for Watatsumi island "which was hyped" before we meet them and suddenly that Scene where Thoma get kiddnaped, we cut unnecessary parts to point, after we get Watatsumi island, it should proceed same way but then suddenly Shogunate get stronger as we get with Delusions, this will give idea that something is odd, like someone goes "Agains Inazuma Entire" cause why a would Fatui provide delusions both side while being cause of VHD? this is already weird written cause civil war is about VHD so if enemy using delusions that you getting from same person you agreed then... just doesnt make sense, at this point we should get good bonds with Teppei and this time should died different way which actually we would felt angry and that reason suicide rush to harbinger, now again it should play as its in game but now, Kujou Sara will be most important figure! Cause you need a proof for her, and since we send Sayu for Kujou clan, it need to be for us, who giving Delusions for Watatsumi soldiers and sight behold, Fatui! by giving her to these to proofs she will be angry at them and then kujou Clan is involved with it, she will run back, same scene but here is that important thing, "psychological horror" a person who raised Sara to living weapon, to serve Raiden with everything, same person who didnt let her have friends and stricly give her orders, Kujou Takayuki agreed with VHD and Delusions and that everyone should be under Raiden mighty power (Include watatsumi) and this make Sara see a Horrors of War, this is what i mention early "Power" this should play same but this time Sara will tell truth and only few will follow her and with battle inside inazuma soldiers of watatsumi get inside, then everything play last time same like how they get inside, facing Shogun etc But a key show, that even being perfect can be decieved, Inazuma should be region of war with mind and manipulation, sympathy and anger, and finally Sumeru. Remember as we were saved by trade Gnosis? well if name Scara and Balladeer was erased, then how Miko would know she saved us and exchange Gnosis at first place?
I think the answer is no, genshin story have a very 3 arc thing like an archon quest is 3 update and we 3 archon quest in and get the first winter laszo video and now another 3 in and prepare to get another one( according to leak). So it is ok that the first 3 is different.
True but then how does Honkai make it work? It doesn't have the same world system like Genshin, but they could pick which ones are more character based and implement them so newer and older players can have the chance to meet up with older yet still important parts of the story.
@@tainii-san5879 Different people making different decisions. Another thing to always remember is that HoYo is a Chinese company. They live by a very different set of laws and ideals than we do. The reality is, these differences often subtly affect things we don't expect them to, in ways we simply don't understand. That said, I'd love a way to revisit those stories even if it's without the rewards and outside the game. Unfortunately, content creators that have done this over the years have been pushed into obscurity in favor of wish videos.
Wait so there's quests important to the story that aren't permanent? I started playing in September so I'm not that far. Does that mean I need to just jump all the way to Natland to do it's quest lol
Highly suggest not jumping to Natlan,it would be jarring and depending where you are currently can be very confusing Events mostly focus on characters.its likely that things hinted in events stay in events,like the continuity for the summer ones.enjoy genshin at your own pace and have fun.pull who you like and not be pressured :)
@kyero8724 they are classic mejsetic charming and simple. Dont take my word for it, if anyrhing , pepole are complaining that Natlan is not as "magic fenstasy game" like the one they fall for in the first place. So sit down 🙄
Inazuma suffered mostly due bad pacing, it should have 4 acts to better space out events, and shouldn't require story quests to progress, Ayaka and Yoimiya story quests should be rewritten to be to take place after Inazuma archon quests and not be part of it.
You can think China for that. They rewrote it and rushed it because China had issues with them making japanese style stuff.
I actually think it’s better for story quests to be apart of the story,you don’t want another Keqing situation where she appears once,does nothing then reappears for the final battle
Having her own focused quest would give her something to do.other than that yeah,Inazuma was bad imo
The only Archon Quest they need to rewrite is Inazuma. Mondstadt and Liyue are great introduction to the world in story-telling perspective. Inazuma just destroys everything like how Ei destroyed three islands of her own nation.
Liyue 100% needs a bit of a rewrite
Zhongli “died”, we talk to the adepti, plan a funeral, collected stuff for said funeral, then we fight childe and osial
Everything between the first and last events I just listed was a complete and utter slog to playthrough.
Not an entire rewrite, but the middle sections do need fixing
She destroyed one in a fight that was orgistrated by Celestia to keep the people ignorant on truth.
@@skyden4637is it bad to get invested in prepare funeral? Cuz I do enjoy it
For Mondstds quest, it was only prologue, so there will most likely come more of the role
They should start with rewriting Natlan's Archon Quest.
I believe that people forgot that monstadt was 1.0,aka when the game first came out besides its called prologue meaning we arent done there so of course it feels witholding along with liyue and did we all forget inazuma was an expriment phase,this is evident with character kits such as ayato.
I think that the old archon quests are good. Mondstadt needed to have a short archon quest in order to hook players into the storytelling of Genshin. First impressions are really important in games and being able to deliver an entire story to starting players without making them feel overwhelmed is difficult. Of course now these stories are rather surface level compared to newer quests, however if these older quests were dropping late-game lore then many people would have felt put off. Being introduced to the themes of the game slowly and in bite-sized pieces until the players are able to actually digest the deeper lore is important. At the time of playing those quests I was not at all bored by them. If I played them now as an experienced genshin fan I would find them bland, but that's the point because I have more knowledge of the lore and don't need that slower pace. I do think that Venti and Zhongli are due for another Archon quest though. I feel later archons got much more opportunity to show their power however Venti and Zhongli are the two oldest archons that we have and yet neither has any impressive scenes. I wish they had an opportunity to shine so people would stop calling them the worst archons. They're far from the worst, we just haven't seen what they're capable of yet.
I want add to Inazuma, it is well done but poorly written and sadly even Sumeru got that poorly writting but i will came back it for later, for now Natlan is for me Inazuma 2.0 cause it goes same thing, War, but unlike civil war we going with Abyss and we see what a war can do but what doesnt show is psychological horror, not like death of people but also some power turn you agains ally but person on its own.
Natlan is carefree nation while Inazuma goes for nobility and disciplination and that where Core it should be
As we get Archon quest, instead of Ayaka and Yoimiya quest in archon, we should do some preperation for Watatsumi island "which was hyped" before we meet them and suddenly that Scene where Thoma get kiddnaped, we cut unnecessary parts to point, after we get Watatsumi island, it should proceed same way but then suddenly Shogunate get stronger as we get with Delusions, this will give idea that something is odd, like someone goes "Agains Inazuma Entire" cause why a would Fatui provide delusions both side while being cause of VHD? this is already weird written cause civil war is about VHD so if enemy using delusions that you getting from same person you agreed then... just doesnt make sense, at this point we should get good bonds with Teppei and this time should died different way which actually we would felt angry and that reason suicide rush to harbinger, now again it should play as its in game but now, Kujou Sara will be most important figure!
Cause you need a proof for her, and since we send Sayu for Kujou clan, it need to be for us, who giving Delusions for Watatsumi soldiers and sight behold, Fatui!
by giving her to these to proofs she will be angry at them and then kujou Clan is involved with it, she will run back, same scene but here is that important thing, "psychological horror" a person who raised Sara to living weapon, to serve Raiden with everything, same person who didnt let her have friends and stricly give her orders, Kujou Takayuki agreed with VHD and Delusions and that everyone should be under Raiden mighty power (Include watatsumi) and this make Sara see a Horrors of War, this is what i mention early "Power" this should play same but this time Sara will tell truth and only few will follow her and with battle inside inazuma soldiers of watatsumi get inside, then everything play last time same like how they get inside, facing Shogun etc
But a key show, that even being perfect can be decieved, Inazuma should be region of war with mind and manipulation, sympathy and anger, and finally Sumeru.
Remember as we were saved by trade Gnosis? well if name Scara and Balladeer was erased, then how Miko would know she saved us and exchange Gnosis at first place?
I think the answer is no, genshin story have a very 3 arc thing like an archon quest is 3 update and we 3 archon quest in and get the first winter laszo video and now another 3 in and prepare to get another one( according to leak). So it is ok that the first 3 is different.
Monstald doesn't have archon quest it was prologue
Those event stories aren't permanent because Genshin Impact is also a mobile game. Storage space matters.
True but then how does Honkai make it work? It doesn't have the same world system like Genshin, but they could pick which ones are more character based and implement them so newer and older players can have the chance to meet up with older yet still important parts of the story.
@@tainii-san5879 i think not having an open world is the obvious answer,
@@tainii-san5879 Different people making different decisions. Another thing to always remember is that HoYo is a Chinese company. They live by a very different set of laws and ideals than we do. The reality is, these differences often subtly affect things we don't expect them to, in ways we simply don't understand.
That said, I'd love a way to revisit those stories even if it's without the rewards and outside the game. Unfortunately, content creators that have done this over the years have been pushed into obscurity in favor of wish videos.
mo, the event stories are limited time because genshin is a gacha game that needs to hold up FOMO to keep players coming back
@@areku2017 honkai star rail......
thats for Genshin Impact 2
Wait so there's quests important to the story that aren't permanent? I started playing in September so I'm not that far. Does that mean I need to just jump all the way to Natland to do it's quest lol
Highly suggest not jumping to Natlan,it would be jarring and depending where you are currently can be very confusing
Events mostly focus on characters.its likely that things hinted in events stay in events,like the continuity for the summer ones.enjoy genshin at your own pace and have fun.pull who you like and not be pressured :)
@LycanMOON yeah you're right it would be confusing. I'll get there when I get there
Absolutely not. that is a bad take and a rabbit hole without end.
Mondstdt and Liyue still aging so well ❤
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure lol
@kyero8724 they are classic mejsetic charming and simple. Dont take my word for it, if anyrhing , pepole are complaining that Natlan is not as "magic fenstasy game" like the one they fall for in the first place.
So sit down 🙄
I think liyue is the worst. Hoyo really flopped their own country
I don't think they should be rewritten.