Good stuff. Talking more about “music theory” of alt rock seems super useful. Almost anyone who likes this music and likes guitars is probably trying to write their own songs. As an example, people always chat about sonic youth as if all they did was make noise. But there is a very clear set of scales and chords they relied on.
Yeah definitely. From my own experience I know enough that I know what chords are in a key and different ways to play them etc but then I find when putting things together I’m always drawn to certain voicings and progressions subconsciously which makes it sound like ‘me’. I’d think maybe it’s the same for other bands?!
Damn this is a very high quality content man. Straight to the point, without unnecessary stuff in-between, good examples, easy, clean, useful. Subscribed right away! Keep it up dude!!!
Thank you for show these progressions, as a 51 year old metal head and one who love every track off Siamese dreams. Mayonnaise has always had a hold on me and one of my favs as well!
Technically progressions should work, regardless of where you start, as long as you stay in key. For a major key, regardless of what you start with, the pattern is WWWHWWH I ii iii IV V iv VII Eg C Dm Em F G Am B But if you're not sure how to read your fretboard, then this pattern works: WWWHWWH W = whole note = skip a fret H = half note = next fret If you move down a string (up to D string) its always going down a four (eg I to IV) With that, as long as you know your barre chords, you're good to go
Even if they provide chords and tabs, it will be extremely hard for you to create stuff like this on your own. Just start with learning intervals videos instead of skipping straight to this. The creator already assumes the people who watches this already know basic music theory. Shouldn't take you a week to memorize 7 intervals. Just by knowing that and looking at formulas, you already know all the key, scales, chords, progressions and will be able to comprehend everything theory related videos without relying on tabs.
I've watched all of your videos, Say this one when you first uploaded it. A few weeks ago I was on Spotify and searching new grunge bands, On one playlist I discovered this band called October Drift, Really really dug Insects. Today I checked out the music video on TH-cam and I saw this guitar player in the band and it hit me... It's you. Was bloody wild... LoL
Not sure of what the theory are progression cycle is but always really loved the chord structures Graham Coxon used with Blur - particularly on the Modern Life is Rubbish album
There was a band years ago called Plagal Grind, which is where I first heard of the I - IV interval, but essentially knew it as the Velvets / Lou Reed, Spacemen 3, Spiritualized et al. The last one sounds like Beach House, with that slight melancholy. EDIT fav chords at the moment: Hotline TNT "Stampede". Catchy, intriguing, disconcerting. And 3 guitarists.
@@thesethingsmakenoisesgrab some poppy chord changes from David Bennett piano. You start getting the groove over the pattern, but then he'll throw the next song up. You do a slower take on the chords and your accent is easier to catch...forgive, I speak Americanese.
Oh sh*t, I just realize that I've heard October Drift even before I found your channel! I saw an Instagram ad, or something... From recording of an album. Cool!
@@thesethingsmakenoises Yes, I like what you do. It's not retro music, it's not just heavy-ish grunge, the music is pretty melodic too and the songs as compositions are pretty darn good!
Great video but I think it's worth mentioning that Mayonaise isn't a V iii I but a I vi IV. The Eb chord is the tonal center, and the minor chord in the middle of the progression is a minadd9 chord, which you wouldn't usually expect from a iii chord in your typical major scale. The use of b7 (Db) over the Eb chord I'm pretty sure is just some mixolydian modal mixture, not necessarily implying that it's supposed to literally be a dominant 7th chord, which is what you'd expect of the V.
Lol where are you brotha!?!?We miss you and your awesome videos...Anyways,just busting chops😜I hope all is well and life happens.Take care my friend.👍 Btw,Love for your band to come to the states.
Jesus Dude, your chords are so fracking hard. CRAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I have arthritis, so i struggle with complex chords and the 'press' and 'slide'/'switch' interchange (if that makes sense). but cool vid dude
@@thesethingsmakenoises thanks. I'm currently writing a alt rock song with a buddy of mine and it's in c lydian so after watching this that's where my mind went. Cheers from the Smokey mountains
That jag sounds so good with the p90s - is it a refinished blacktop? I've been thinking about picking up one of the new player ii's and fitting it with jag sized p90s
The funny thing is, recently I started working on a song that has the Mayonnaise chord progression. It felt too close, so I went V-iii-IV in the verse.. I'm not done with that composition...
@@thesethingsmakenoises I will! It will take some time to finish and I'll possibly post it on TH-cam. I've got a good fuzz sound made with distortion pedals, but as we all know, cool guitar tones don't make good songs haha!
Hey, thanks for the video, but I've got one question (which might be an obvious one, but...) - how do you find chords that sound good together? Like, you pick some chord for "I" and then some other for "V", what is the logic here? Also, why is some chord - chord V and not I? Thanks :)
Play a chord and change the 3rd or 5th or even both or just the root with 3rd and 5th in tact. Very ergonomical 😂 This is how I sorta learned to play keys...I confess I am a synthesizer nerd. Speaking of overdrive pedals...have you heard the Ibanez 850? Sounds like a fuzz.
@@thesethingsmakenoises crazy not to. Yes thank you my good man. Almost there. Popped a private version of the whole album on Soundcloud so I can listen back on different devices. Actually surprised myself today that it might even be not bad almost good. 🤪😂😘
It’s a Chinese modern player. I really love it. I use the same 11-48 that I use on my jazzmaster, I’ve actually got a video coming up about gauges next week!
It’s weird. I use most things f those chord progressions just from fooling around on the neck. Your ears just tell you where to go. Just ordered a super weirdo from JPTR. How does the wallow compare to the ehx op amp?
Yeah I’m the same now actually I sometimes have to deliberately get away from it haha. Ooooo awesome!!! Yeah I love the op amp, I’ve actually swapped it out for the Warlow now though! I find the rat channel combined with the muff channel gives me even more mids
@@thesethingsmakenoises oooh. I took a risk ordered one of those with the super weirdo. Excited to see your vid cos i really don’t how it sounds beyond those few insta clips on jptr’s page.
i don't know these chord fingerings. i wish you had should better where on the fretboard you had your fingers. they're kind of big and blocked the positioning. i was trying to figure them out but too much of it didn't sound the same based on where i thought you had your fingers and i kind of gave up. the progressions where good though.
Hard to beat the 1564 change. Not sure how often I've used it but my most successful version was m.th-cam.com/video/oe2sZt948LM/w-d-xo.html We ripped the arse out of it and only had the 4 chord in the verses.
you have no idea how much this is gonna help
🙌🙌
Good stuff. Talking more about “music theory” of alt rock seems super useful. Almost anyone who likes this music and likes guitars is probably trying to write their own songs. As an example, people always chat about sonic youth as if all they did was make noise. But there is a very clear set of scales and chords they relied on.
Yeah definitely. From my own experience I know enough that I know what chords are in a key and different ways to play them etc but then I find when putting things together I’m always drawn to certain voicings and progressions subconsciously which makes it sound like ‘me’. I’d think maybe it’s the same for other bands?!
Hope my ramblings made sense haha
you just explained keys in like 5 seconds, and it made so much sense to me. definitely subbed!
Thanks mate 🙌
Damn this is a very high quality content man. Straight to the point, without unnecessary stuff in-between, good examples, easy, clean, useful. Subscribed right away! Keep it up dude!!!
I love your way of explaining it's so easy to understand and very practical
Thanks so much!
Thank you for show these progressions, as a 51 year old metal head and one who love every track off Siamese dreams. Mayonnaise has always had a hold on me and one of my favs as well!
awesome video dude you opened my eyes with some great ideas, good to see Dinosaur Jr getting some love too
Is it too much to ask for the chords used and the tabs?just to visualise everything…Cheers
No
Technically progressions should work, regardless of where you start, as long as you stay in key.
For a major key, regardless of what you start with, the pattern is
WWWHWWH
I ii iii IV V iv VII
Eg C Dm Em F G Am B
But if you're not sure how to read your fretboard, then this pattern works:
WWWHWWH
W = whole note = skip a fret
H = half note = next fret
If you move down a string (up to D string) its always going down a four (eg I to IV)
With that, as long as you know your barre chords, you're good to go
It's not WWWHWWH it's WWHWWWH
Even if they provide chords and tabs, it will be extremely hard for you to create stuff like this on your own.
Just start with learning intervals videos instead of skipping straight to this. The creator already assumes the people who watches this already know basic music theory.
Shouldn't take you a week to memorize 7 intervals. Just by knowing that and looking at formulas, you already know all the key, scales, chords, progressions and will be able to comprehend everything theory related videos without relying on tabs.
Loved hearing Mayonnaise! Excellent video
Glad you enjoyed it! I love that song!
you’re my favorite guitar/music youtuber
Thanks so much!
vi-IV-I-V sounds great!
It does doesn’t it 😊
Cool video. That last lick you played sounded great. Thanks for posting.
Thanks so much!
I've watched all of your videos,
Say this one when you first uploaded it.
A few weeks ago I was on Spotify and searching new grunge bands,
On one playlist I discovered this band called October Drift,
Really really dug Insects.
Today I checked out the music video on TH-cam and I saw this guitar player in the band and it hit me...
It's you.
Was bloody wild...
LoL
Not sure of what the theory are progression cycle is but always really loved the chord structures Graham Coxon used with Blur - particularly on the Modern Life is Rubbish album
Yeah! Insane guitarist ✌️
There was a band years ago called Plagal Grind, which is where I first heard of the I - IV interval, but essentially knew it as the Velvets / Lou Reed, Spacemen 3, Spiritualized et al.
The last one sounds like Beach House, with that slight melancholy.
EDIT fav chords at the moment: Hotline TNT "Stampede". Catchy, intriguing, disconcerting. And 3 guitarists.
No way that’s awesome!!
Ahh I don’t know them, I’ll check that out!
@@thesethingsmakenoisesgrab some poppy chord changes from David Bennett piano.
You start getting the groove over the pattern, but then he'll throw the next song up.
You do a slower take on the chords and your accent is easier to catch...forgive, I speak Americanese.
Excellent lesson! Thank you! Helping us change the way we think! D to G Lou Reed, Waiting for the Man. One of my favorite songs.
What a great song!
Your taste in music is excellent
Thanks! 🙌
I always enjoy your videos. Thanks for another one!
Thanks so much!
Great quick video. Found inspiration.
love the breakdown. cheers mate
Oh sh*t, I just realize that I've heard October Drift even before I found your channel! I saw an Instagram ad, or something... From recording of an album. Cool!
No way that’s awesome! Thanks!
@@thesethingsmakenoises Yes, I like what you do. It's not retro music, it's not just heavy-ish grunge, the music is pretty melodic too and the songs as compositions are pretty darn good!
Thank you!
great stuff as always man, keep up the good work !
Thanks so much!
Great video but I think it's worth mentioning that Mayonaise isn't a V iii I but a I vi IV. The Eb chord is the tonal center, and the minor chord in the middle of the progression is a minadd9 chord, which you wouldn't usually expect from a iii chord in your typical major scale. The use of b7 (Db) over the Eb chord I'm pretty sure is just some mixolydian modal mixture, not necessarily implying that it's supposed to literally be a dominant 7th chord, which is what you'd expect of the V.
Ahhh man you’re totally right! My bad. I’ll write a comment and pin it. I should have checked the other chords in the song more thoroughly!
Wow. That's awesome. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!
This video is so sick thank you man
Great video man. Subscribed :) love your style
Lol where are you brotha!?!?We miss you and your awesome videos...Anyways,just busting chops😜I hope all is well and life happens.Take care my friend.👍
Btw,Love for your band to come to the states.
Fantastic, as always
Thanks mate!
Great lesson! Thanks man! Subb'ed
The ending of New York by Sex Pistols is basically just a I-IV. I ripped that off SO many times!
Ahhh it is! Haha awesome!
Superb, thanks Dan. Really helpful tutorial
Thanks mate!
what is that clean guitar tone when you're initially showing the progression? i love it so much
I was literally just going through the Blackstar amp sim, on the el34 Marshall setting with minimal gain. I was really happy with it too actually.
This is amazing!
Thanks so much.
YES! I love theory and it's really helpful. Do outside chords next
Thanks! What do ya mean by outside chords? Apologies if I’m missing something haha
@@thesethingsmakenoisesI think they’re referring to chords outside of a key or borrowed chords.
Ahh yeah great shout!
@@thesethingsmakenoisesExactly like jjs put it, like sticking a major chord where a minor should be and viceversa. Great lesson, thank you!
Jesus Dude, your chords are so fracking hard. CRAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I have arthritis, so i struggle with complex chords and the 'press' and 'slide'/'switch' interchange (if that makes sense). but cool vid dude
Awesome video bro, mayonnaise is indeed a great song
What a great tune.
This is fantastic! Thanks!
Thanks mate!
Modal chord progressions soon?
Good shout!
@@thesethingsmakenoises thanks. I'm currently writing a alt rock song with a buddy of mine and it's in c lydian so after watching this that's where my mind went. Cheers from the Smokey mountains
That jag sounds so good with the p90s - is it a refinished blacktop? I've been thinking about picking up one of the new player ii's and fitting it with jag sized p90s
Ace! Nice detail.
🤘🤘
Good video !! Thanks !
right off the bat all i could hear was boys dont cry
Great video.
Thank you!
I - Home
iii - Almost home
vi - Almost home
ii - Moving
IV - Moving
V - Tense
VII - Tense
I like the way you say Jaguar..
Haha thanks.
You mentioned J Mascis at 10:50 ; which Mascis song are you playing at 11:10 ..? "Not the Same" ..? Or are you still referring to "Feel the Pain" ?
nice job :)
I finally bought another pedal the other day and picked up a neo clone for $50 so thanks for the demo on it and the others
That’s awesome! Hope you have loads of fun with it.
The funny thing is, recently I started working on a song that has the Mayonnaise chord progression. It felt too close, so I went V-iii-IV in the verse.. I'm not done with that composition...
ahh awesome!!!
Let me know how you get on
@@thesethingsmakenoises I will! It will take some time to finish and I'll possibly post it on TH-cam. I've got a good fuzz sound made with distortion pedals, but as we all know, cool guitar tones don't make good songs haha!
Hey, thanks for the video, but I've got one question (which might be an obvious one, but...) - how do you find chords that sound good together? Like, you pick some chord for "I" and then some other for "V", what is the logic here? Also, why is some chord - chord V and not I?
Thanks :)
how do I learn to play with the first 3 strings like this
Play a chord and change the 3rd or 5th or even both or just the root with 3rd and 5th in tact. Very ergonomical 😂 This is how I sorta learned to play keys...I confess I am a synthesizer nerd.
Speaking of overdrive pedals...have you heard the Ibanez 850? Sounds like a fuzz.
Haha!! It’s the best way.
No I haven’t, will check it out!
Oof. Thanks for these chords. I’ve kinda been in a rut.
Thanks! Hope they help ✌️
I relate with the first 10 sec of the video. lol
That last one with the drone. Yep.
🙌🤘
@@thesethingsmakenoisesyou have to use that for a song.
Yeah I think I might! Hope the album mixing is going well 🤘
@@thesethingsmakenoises crazy not to. Yes thank you my good man. Almost there. Popped a private version of the whole album on Soundcloud so I can listen back on different devices. Actually surprised myself today that it might even be not bad almost good. 🤪😂😘
What kind of Jag is that? Curious about what string gauges you use on your short scale too :)
It’s a Chinese modern player. I really love it. I use the same 11-48 that I use on my jazzmaster, I’ve actually got a video coming up about gauges next week!
Velvets and LCD, you know where it's at.
"obviously" a good video
I continously think you could be my best friend, i listened to Mayonaise so many times dear god…
It’s so unbelievably awesome!
It’s weird. I use most things f those chord progressions just from fooling around on the neck. Your ears just tell you where to go. Just ordered a super weirdo from JPTR. How does the wallow compare to the ehx op amp?
Yeah I’m the same now actually I sometimes have to deliberately get away from it haha. Ooooo awesome!!! Yeah I love the op amp, I’ve actually swapped it out for the Warlow now though! I find the rat channel combined with the muff channel gives me even more mids
@@thesethingsmakenoises yeah. The rat combination is very tempting. I can see myself ordering a warlow, and maybe a fernweh fairly soon.
Little spoiler, tomorrows video is breaking down the Bleach pedal, and it’s pretty awesome! (The pedal haha)
@@thesethingsmakenoises oooh. I took a risk ordered one of those with the super weirdo. Excited to see your vid cos i really don’t how it sounds beyond those few insta clips on jptr’s page.
2:03 Take a Walk on the Wild Side?
Edit- oh you mentioned it haha
Haha yes!
@@thesethingsmakenoises 😆🤘
i don't know these chord fingerings. i wish you had should better where on the fretboard you had your fingers. they're kind of big and blocked the positioning. i was trying to figure them out but too much of it didn't sound the same based on where i thought you had your fingers and i kind of gave up. the progressions where good though.
I don’t know many of those types of chords
IV-V-iii-vi
90% of these are not available for me because my hand doesn't allow my fingers to stretch this far 😅
Rainbow Danger Club "It Gets To Me" is a perfect "1 to 4" song. Check it out.
Ohhh nice!! I’ll check it out.
love your clean tone in the intro one strum, like the chinese guqin:) wish to learn it one day. Go check it out if u never have:)
Ohh will check it out mate!
There more chords then 3!?!??!?
Only on special occasions!!
looks like british Layne.
If the “III” chord is “minor” you should call it iii not III
na....u just love drop D,,,just say it. Its your contrast and your fingers follow your brain.
Hahah! I do!
No, grunge is in the soul not in the chords.
Hard to beat the 1564 change. Not sure how often I've used it but my most successful version was m.th-cam.com/video/oe2sZt948LM/w-d-xo.html We ripped the arse out of it and only had the 4 chord in the verses.
Sounds great mate!!
Great video